🔌│tech

[cursive summit]

6900XT

1440p screens that look good are like 200$

[zenith silo]

im not cheaping out if im buying a 1440p

its gonna be 240hz 1440p

with really good motion clarity

im waiting for an xg2431 equivalent 1440p 240hz

[cursive summit]

Doesn't make any sense

[astral haven]

you can run the game at 4k upscaling from 1080p to 4k with fsr, then downscale back down to 4k

[zenith silo]

i want a 1440p 240hz thats cheap and has incredible motion clarity

[cursive summit]

1440p IPS are like 240$ at 165Hz

[zenith silo]

im not buying below 240hz

yuck

[astral haven]

itll be sharper than native 1080p for only slightly lower fps

[cursive summit]

That, again, makes literally no sense lol

[zenith silo]

yeah im waiting

[astral haven]

but yea if you are over probably like 120fps, fsr and dlss will have trouble

[zenith silo]

how, i prefer 240hz 🤷

[cursive summit]

240Hz is overrated

[zenith silo]

no its not

[astral haven]

240hz is fantastic, wish i could run it in more games 😦

my fault for going 4k tho

but yea your card is too fast at 1080p to be the bottleneck almost ever

[zenith silo]

going back to 144/165 is gross now that ive been on 240 for so long

[astral haven]

same

work refuses to get me 240hz monitors 🤣

im really annoyed how far down i have to put the settings to get solid 240 in cs2

[zenith silo]

im 1080p so i get 240+ on max graphics

[astral haven]

except msaa

ofc

[cursive summit]

Seems that 1440p 240Hz IPS are like 300 euros now

Idk wtf is that in dollars, 330?

[crystal halo]

Gotta make sure you have shadows up for the player shadows around corners, worth the hit tbh

[zenith silo]

Would need to look into them myself

I wouldn't want to cheap out and get a shit one, but I'm not spending 800$

[crystal halo]

That ASUS PG27AQN looks absolutely dreamy but goodness gracious $1000 :<

[zenith silo]

I'm just gonna wait till good ones are cheaper

[crystal halo]

27” 1440p 360hz ULMB2

[astral haven]

yup def

[cursive summit]

There's no need to wait till good ones are cheaper if the panel manufacturer sells the "good" displays for like 50% cheaper than they are in the market normally

https://www.amazon.de/-/en/KOORUI-Monitor-Spectrum-Adaptive-Compatible/dp/B0CC9BGSND

Pretty sure this is an IPS, Koorui loves not listing specs

[astral haven]

although i dont have the situational awareness to make use of it lel

[crystal halo]

What specs you got Carmon?

[astral haven]

3090 5950x

[cursive summit]

Koorui is a panel manufacturer in Korea that sells panels to shit like Asus

[astral haven]

slow ram

[cursive summit]

Korui also sell their own displays, and for insanely cheap prices

Cause the panels are exactly the same as the higher end Asus ones, etc, they just price them down

[crystal halo]

5900x/3090 here, side graded to the 5800x3D on the CPU front and fps went way up lol

[astral haven]

yea 😦

i do a bunch of cpu heavy stuff tho

[zenith silo]

Do they have good blur reduction like the ViewSonic xg2431

[crystal halo]

Riiip

[astral haven]

outside of gaming

[crystal halo]

I noticed my hand brake take a big hit

But the sweet sweet FPS in cs

[astral haven]

yea

[crystal halo]

Went from the 300s to 400-500s

[astral haven]

i was hoping to grab a full on upgrade to ddr5

[crystal halo]

I’m holding out for the 8800x3d and 5090 at this point hopefully lol

[cursive summit]

The one I bought, 1440p 165Hz I didn't see any ghosting or blur, whatever that is

[crystal halo]

I debated going 7800x3d but the 5800x3d got me “enough”

[astral haven]

but the cheapest setup that has enough IO for me may not even be faster is intel xeons which suuuuucks

[crystal halo]

Plus didn’t need new mobo or ram

[zenith silo]

165 simply is smooth/clear as I want it

It's out of the question for me

[crystal halo]

Second PC for gaming? Probably a waste lol.

[astral haven]

threadripper is interesting, but no x3d

[cursive summit]

Well I did link you a 240Hz one lol

[astral haven]

biiiiig bucks 😦

[crystal halo]

Yeaaa

[astral haven]

and i dont even need that much pcie tho

[crystal halo]

Was worth a thought hehe

[astral haven]

just an x8 and an x16

thats it

[crystal halo]

Yea

[astral haven]

but everyone is doing x16+ dual x4

argh

or x16x4/x8x8x4

i want the 4k240/1080p480 panel

[crystal halo]

https://rog.asus.com/us/monitors/27-to-31-5-inches/rog-swift-360hz-pg27aqn-model/wtb/
I want this to be not $1000 lol.

[astral haven]

yea i do really miss ulmb

[crystal halo]

If it hits like $800 on Black Friday I’ll probably cop because ULMB 2 is so insanely good

It’s crazy good

[astral haven]

my old monitor was an incredible amount clearer than my new monitor despite being a quarter the res and 75% the refresh

[crystal halo]

Better than the 500hz Alienware moment

I believe it

[cursive summit]

What the actual fuck

Koorui are selling a miniled, QHD, 240hz HDR1000 for 500 euros

DCI-P3 95%

[crystal halo]

MiniLED eeeeh

Bloom city

[astral haven]

its fine as long as its VA

[cursive summit]

That panel will be costing you 700$ at least

https://www.amazon.de/-/en/KOORUI-Monitor-Adaptive-DisplayPort-Adjustable/dp/B0CHFL258X/ref=sr_1_3?crid=2ISZ777SN7P5D&keywords=KOORUI+GN10&qid=1698435723&sprefix=koorui+gn10%2Caps%2C88&sr=8-3

VA MiniLED

Koorui is genuinely becoming an insane brand

[astral haven]

miniled only sucks when paired with ips

ips and tn are both pretty awful for raw image quality

but use some strobing and youve got yourself some insane clarity

[cursive summit]

I think Koorui is pretty new as a brand, like few years old, but they are owned by HKC

HKC is pretty ancient and manufacture panels for a lot of brands

Just recently they for whatever reason decided to sell their panels themselves, for insano cheap prices

Like 50% discounts lol

Ngl, I kinda like miniled tech so for 500 euros, I am defo noting this down in case I need a new display

[astral haven]

if a company isnt selling under their own name, and for a big discount, its definetly qc rejects...

just something to be aware of

[cursive summit]

3 years warranty, 12 months replacement service

[astral haven]

https://arstechnica.com/security/2023/10/iphone-privacy-feature-hiding-wi-fi-macs-has-failed-to-work-for-3-years/

oops

[ashen spindle]

yup

[empty wren]

Lol 3200 probably even more locked down I bet.

[zenith silo]

i wanted one of those onewheels when they first got popular

but i couldnt justify spending like 1.5k on one

[zenith silo]

how fast can that 3200$ one go?

[empty wren]

Inb4 battery blows up if screw is removed

But seriously already so and the key is encrypted

Imagine that

Lol

[zenith silo]

Better than I thought, it's probably quite fun than

[empty wren]

You get less range though it seems

The voltage is impressive I will say

That is about it

Mine is only 84v

[empty wren]

Understandable

[zenith silo]

I wanna get a surron but I'm just gonna get an actual motorcycle instead

Spend 9k on ebike<spend 9k on motorcycle

[empty wren]

Motorcycle does seem somewhat better to be honest

[zenith silo]

Actually surron is more than the bike I wanna buy

[empty wren]

They got storage

But you need to pay for plates

Insurance ECT ect

[zenith silo]

But they go faster

And make noises

[empty wren]

Yep and farther

Combustion for the win

[zenith silo]

I want a surron just to rip around for fun but they cost too much

We're probably just gonna get like a himiway that goes half as fast if that

[empty wren]

Surron is that one expensive bike that looks like a dirt bike right?

[zenith silo]

Yeah

They have a model than can do like 75mph

[empty wren]

Ooooo

[zenith silo]

But it's like 12k cad

[empty wren]

Gonna need a helmet for that

[zenith silo]

Nah

Just don't crash

[empty wren]

Terrible philosophy in my opinion

[zenith silo]

Are helmets required for ebikes?

[empty wren]

Not everything is predictable

No

But you should wear it for your own safety

I wear one with my float wheel

[zenith silo]

Figured, I was never stopped by cops but my parents kept telling me it was required

[empty wren]

And I am only going 10mph for now

Ewww but it is portable I guess

[zenith silo]

I only wear helmets on stuff that goes over 100kmh tbh

Dumb but I like the feeling

[empty wren]

Wait wait have you been saying kmh this whole time

[zenith silo]

I've pushed my brother's ebike to 92kmh in pajama pants and a t-shirt

[zenith silo]

Aside from talking about the surron

[empty wren]

Ah okay

Cuz those units are vastly different

[zenith silo]

Ik

I feel comfortable without a helmet up to 60-70mph probably

[empty wren]

If you say so

[zenith silo]

But if I'm racing around on dirtbike/quad I wear one anyway

Just don't care to on an ebike

[ornate lily]

It is amazing how you can be comfortable at speeds that will 100% kill you even on a normal bike.

[zenith silo]

Yeah because it's not that fast

You can die easily from anything 🤷

[empty wren]

Anything above and close to 20 is death territory

There is a scooter out now that can go to 90mph I think

[zenith silo]

I want it

So bad

[empty wren]

What is that locke

[zenith silo]

Can someone loan me 45k rq

[empty wren]

Lol

[zenith silo]

So I can get an r1

[ornate lily]

I rode trail 80s as a kid.

[zenith silo]

Omg it's tiny

That's adorable

[ornate lily]

That'd be a sleeper to hit 90...

[empty wren]

That looks closer to a bike for some reason

[zenith silo]

That's not the scooter that can do 90

[empty wren]

Minus the engine at the bottom

https://youtu.be/7mt_6ZrXGw8?si=gHQ2mnGAlmu9IFka

[zenith silo]

How much are those

[ornate lily]

Ok... that's stupid.

[zenith silo]

And are they for sale in canada

[empty wren]

https://youtu.be/nSUCGVi2TiA?si=3udTkHaZspZZHbDz

More recent video

[empty wren]

Money

[zenith silo]

I wanna see if they are legal/for sale in canada

[vagrant pagoda]

Wrx90 is thonk

[zenith silo]

8k? Yeah that's literally the price of the motorcycle I want

[empty wren]

Yeah now imagine no seat

And slimmer

[zenith silo]

I'm fine with that

[empty wren]

I do wonder when someone buys these how many people do not intend to use this on the racetrack and want to go fast

[zenith silo]

I wouldn't use it on track

Id be passing cars on the highway

🤣

[empty wren]

Cuz not that long ago there was a 75mph or kmph scooter whatever I think it is closer to 62mph

[zenith silo]

Stay near the city so you can run it cops Chase

[empty wren]

And someone casually rode that in the street

[zenith silo]

That's what I'd do

[empty wren]

For the highway that has regulations

[zenith silo]

Yeah I've never cared about those

[empty wren]

Bro what you gonna do if a cop were to siren you

[zenith silo]

I've ridden dirtbikes and quads on highway most my life

[empty wren]

That seems different

[zenith silo]

Pull over and be a good boy, or run if I can

With a scooter that does 90mph a cop isn't catching me in the city

That's just not gonna happen

[empty wren]

I mean if I guess

Since you can weave through traffic

[zenith silo]

Traffic? Dawg I'm doing 60mph on walking trails

[empty wren]

But that is probably gonna get a reckless driving infraction

[zenith silo]

If I'm being chased by cops I ain't going on road where they can go fast too

[zenith silo]

That's how to get caught 101

[empty wren]

Wow it costs less than the scooter

[zenith silo]

The bike I want is like 6,5 MSRP in cad

[empty wren]

I really hope you have been trollfacing this whole time

[zenith silo]

Nope

I've ran from cops before on quad lots

[empty wren]

...

[zenith silo]

Just take back trails where their trucks can't go fast

I've ran from the cops with my dad before

On quad

I'm going Husqvarna

[empty wren]

Wow even less expensive

[zenith silo]

My buddy let me ride his svartpilen and I'm sold

Also could've been arrested when he let me ride it

0 license doing 60 over the speed limit infront of a cop in a residential

But the cop just drove off he didn't bother thankfully

[empty wren]

Is that the one children ride

[zenith silo]

125cc are childrens bikes

[empty wren]

Not familiar on cc ratings

[zenith silo]

Engine size

[empty wren]

Alright

[zenith silo]

125cc is tiny

When I was 4 I had an 80cc dirtbike

That thing was so smalll

[empty wren]

You are joking

A child is allowed to ride that

[zenith silo]

It's tiny wdym

It's like 2ft tall at best

[empty wren]

I mean it looks like a real motorcycle

[zenith silo]

So?

[empty wren]

Just surprised is all

[zenith silo]

It's 100cc

It can probably barely do 80kmh

Maybe not even that

[empty wren]

This is close to what I see in my neighborhood

These look cheap compared to what locke posted

[zenith silo]

I miss being able to ride a bunch

I wanna go ride skidoos again

It's been so long

[empty wren]

Is that also for children?

Oh okay

[zenith silo]

I miss my grandfather's old utility snowmobile

It was surprisingly fast

But I was also like 10 so I was incredibly light

I've pushed that thing just to 200kmh on a flat stretch

It was 800-900cc I think

Thing was massive

🤣

That looks incredibly uncomfortable

Do you not need to sit with your knees out 45 degrees at all times?

The pocket rocket I rode was like that it sucked

[empty wren]

Ah cool one of those people that get close the ground

Apparently that is very difficult

[zenith silo]

Yes but no

[thick elk]

This does look pretty stupid yea

[zenith silo]

It's not hard to do once you know how to do it/aren't scared of doing it

[empty wren]

Well practice does make perfect

Ahhhh

Special kneepads necessary?

How convenient

[thick elk]

Considering the scratches on those kneepads I assume they are very much needed

[empty wren]

Ahhhh

[zenith silo]

this is what im gonna be getting

little 400cc until i have enough money for a nicer 600 sport bike

• you can still take this thing on some trails

[empty wren]

I would not want to be on that trial

You would be bringing cops with you

[zenith silo]

not like walking trails more like quadding and dirtbike trails

[empty wren]

Oh

[zenith silo]

i live in canada they arent this commie yet

[empty wren]

Ooo Canada

[zenith silo]

we can still enjoy ourselves on dirtbikes and stuff

[empty wren]

Lots of non habited area

Yeah you know this is all kinda started to make sense why you like bikes

[empty wren]

You got a ton of room

[zenith silo]

ive been riding quads and dirtbikes my entire life

i got my first gas powered quad at 1

for christmas

that same day i was doing donuts in my dads backyard 🤣

my entire family were drivers

my grandfather used to race stock cars

my dad used to do drift racing

id never own one but they are hilarious

[empty wren]

Wow those are tiny

[zenith silo]

yeah they are 125cc

they cant even do highway speeds

[crisp granite]

126

[zenith silo]

i think they top out around 60mph

[zenith silo]

im 5'11 and a half energy

[crisp granite]

literally me rn

[zenith silo]

that 1 extra cc makes all the difference okay

[crisp granite]

I am SPIRITUALLY SIX FEET TALL

😡

[zenith silo]

im 5'9 and a half but i just round down

[fair gull]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tDacjrSCeq4

still a good meme

just scream at data

[zenith silo]

when your already short there isnt a point adding that extra .5

[crisp granite]

Some are just weak sperm

[ornate lily]

... If you've ever gotten a bad batch of drives as an admin.. you know how Bryan feels 😉

I went through it once with well over 200 drives. Seagate denied a bulk return, despite knowing the issue. So we returned them each as they died.... X_x.

Spinning rust just sucks.

That isn't the worst that happened on that project. I was out speaking at a conference, and left specific orders "On this failure, contact me. Do not attempt the recovery, you can run as is for a bit." Alas... one of my colleagues didn't listen. And wiped a storage server. X_x.

Only server we lost on my watch. I was pissed.

[vagrant pagoda]

I have a china grom clone

With a 250 race motor in it

It's a wheelie machine

Was cheaper than a Grom

Wait it's not 250 it's 200 something

But it screams to like 12k

It's nuts though

4v, 12:1 compression, running e85

[hasty thunder]

ugh... Dafuq happened on AM5?

the only dual BIOS Boards available are from MSI and cost 800+€

WTF is going on?

[ashen spindle]

with bios flashback it's less of a use for most people so cutting it away makes sense for margins

that and even there, bios flashback, saving a bios etc. works

but for the like dozen of people it still makes sense for its costs too much to add it on all boards of a series

postcodes on the other hand...

[empty wren]

Doesnta gigabyte also have dual bios

[ashen spindle]

any mobo maker has dual bios

not on every platform for the aforementioned reasons

[empty wren]

Ah

BIOS flashback is definitely nice for a bad overclock

I got led on my Asus board

And some boards just use speakers

[hasty thunder]

Look, my X570 Aorus Master Rev 1.2 for 320€ had it. In fact it's a banger of a board for that money, but somehow AM5 boards with features i consider a MUST HAVE cost a fucking fortune now

[ashen spindle]

what do you need it for though

[hasty thunder]

but yeah, guess for my DDR5 OCs i have to go with Intel instead

sad actually... Given that AM4 was such a stable platform for DDR4 OC

that's why i always have a few spare speakers

you never know when you need one of these

[ashen spindle]

for oc records yeah probably intel unless you go for stable ram oc

maybe with zen6 when IO die gets changed

[hasty thunder]

and i'm also quite surprised that AM5 as well as Z790 are so disappointing in terms of USB-C connectors

Is it that hard to build an IO with 50:50? 6 USB-C ports, 6 USB-A ports, done

[ashen spindle]

costs more and most things are still using type A

[empty wren]

Mega oof

So zX90 boards are hella expensive

As it is

Though I know what you mean

Company I work at downgraded a component in the sense it was loose, Japan side ordered a machine and called them out for it

Now they went back to old one

[astral haven]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wnOGMnjMVh4
get an android that supports motioncam lel

[empty wren]

Wowowososowowowowoow

YouTubers filming stuff with phones

[astral haven]

did you watch the result?

[empty wren]

No hold on

Hmm interesting

Maybe the phone is easier to move I guess

[vagrant pagoda]

Tons of people use phones

[astral haven]

yea it was sarcasm obviously lel

[empty wren]

Really

Also ionstorm

I rode in the dark was super fun

Sidewalk sucks ass in my neighborhood though gets inclined at an angle in some spots

[vagrant pagoda]

Lol

[vagrant pagoda]

You don't got a headlight?

[empty wren]

Oh I do lok

I got a helmet

With blinkers and a headlight

Still cannot as much road as I would want

[vagrant pagoda]

Get one for the board

Light at ground level makes it super easy to see shit

[empty wren]

Wait you added another headlight

🤔

I have seen kits like flashlights strapped to the front is that what you mean?

Gyro?

You mean one wheel or vesc diy boards?

[final flame]

@gusty kiln
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b0ve3B880yQ

something for ya to look at once you wake up

[final gyro]

anyone's pc starting to crash after a recent windows update?

cause mines crashing non stop

I like how I went into cmd

And my pc crashed

11

discord just crashed rn

for discord?

everything is updated

[crisp granite]

I'm not microsoft tech support

they're based in Hyderabad
I'm based in your mum's bedroom

[latent mural]

no that’s me uwu

[crisp granite]

🙄

[misty saffron]

sounds like a ram stability issue

if shit just crashes without rhyme or reason

[final flame]

nah that's just a discord moment

[final gyro]

Oh

What do I do to fix that?

Or is the ram just completely busted?

[final gyro]

Also my pc just keeps crashing too

So it’s not only discord

[misty saffron]

is it always different errors?

[final gyro]

Yea

Different blue screen of death

[misty saffron]

yea i’ve had the same issue when using mismatched ram sticks

i just set the voltage to 1.4v in bios

[final gyro]

o mines not even mismatched 😭

[final gyro]

o

Is that more or less voltage then regular?

[misty saffron]

it is more

[final gyro]

o

[misty saffron]

1.4v is safe for ddr4 though

[final gyro]

Okok

I use ddr4 too

3400mhz and it’s underclocked too

But it didn’t happen before

My pc has been fine for 2 years

Just today it acted weird

[misty saffron]

not sure if ram chips can degrade like that

[final gyro]

After a windows update

[final gyro]

I just lost the silicon lottery apparently

Like hard L

[misty saffron]

windows update sounds like a coincidence to me though, i’m all too familiar with shit crashing for no reason

[final gyro]

Oh?

So you think it might be windows this time?

[misty saffron]

no, i think it’s a coincidence

[final gyro]

I also had to hard shutdown my pc cause it was just stuck

[misty saffron]

try raising the voltage for now imo

[final gyro]

Okok

[misty saffron]

i wouldn’t try rolling back before fucking around with voltage, you might just brick your windows install

if it crashes mid that

[final gyro]

Oh yea

I was trying to do nvidia

And that keeps crashing

Like during the download

But how does this thing even happen?

It just randomly breaks

[misty saffron]

i’m thinking ram chips degraded and aren’t able to run at the settings you have them set to now anymore

[final gyro]

I see

You think I can rma this?

[misty saffron]

you can try pulling a stick at a time if you have multiple

see which one might be fucked

rma - probably, if there’s still warranty

[final gyro]

Yea

I got lifetime warranty

[misty saffron]

yea just check which one is faulty then

[final gyro]

Ye

I gotta test all 4

[misty saffron]

replacing is better than fucking around with voltage

[final gyro]

Wait so should I fuck around with the voltage or nah?

Or would that void the whole thing?

[misty saffron]

might be that some chip just died and it might not help at all

[final gyro]

Oh

Ima try the voltage method first

Cause I don’t wanna send it back and do everything

Also uhh

[misty saffron]

could be a very temporary solution, that

[final gyro]

Where do I go?

[misty saffron]

great question, never had an msi board

oh that’s asus

[final gyro]

Oh this asus lmao

Dram voltage sounds promising

Wait it’s at 1.5V

[misty saffron]

well that’s already very high actually

[final gyro]

Yea

Ngl I feel like the mobo is causing me all this trouble

[misty saffron]

that’s a very interesting number for the auto setting

[final gyro]

Yea

1.7V for cpu

Idk if that’s high or not

But it sounds dangerous

Actually it’s basically 1.8V

[misty saffron]

that’s for some texas instruments ic lol

[final gyro]

Oh

[misty saffron]

cpu generally manages its own voltage, i wouldn’t care about it

[final gyro]

I see

[misty saffron]

you should just test one stick at a time

[final gyro]

Yea

I don’t think upping the voltage on the ram is a good idea lol

That’s like death to all 4 sticks

[misty saffron]

i feel like a chip overheated at that constant 1.5v, that’s a VERY weird number for auto

[final gyro]

Yea

And it’s underclocked too

I can’t image it hitting the 4000mhz it’s suppose to

Wait

Is this worth doing?

[misty saffron]

why not

might actually point to the dead stick

[final gyro]

o ok

Imagine all 4 is just fried

[misty saffron]

i’d be extremely surprised if it passes

[final gyro]

Same lol

Do you know how long it usually takes?

[misty saffron]

should be very quick

[final gyro]

o ok

I remember doing a diagnostic for my pc

And I went away for 10 hours and it was still testing when I came back

It’s actually passing everything rn

[misty saffron]

well that’s a puzzle

random crashing is usually textbook ram stability issues

[final gyro]

Yea

I’m thinking it’s mobo

Cause mobo doing weird stuff

Like why’s the voltage set so high?

[misty saffron]

1.5v is still safe, just a very weird stock value

[final gyro]

Yea

But I’m pretty sure anymore than 1.5v is gg

Ohhhh my gawdddd

[misty saffron]

well there we go

knew it

[final gyro]

64 errors

In a second

What error is that even?

[misty saffron]

it just shows you what value it expected to read from ram and what it read

[final gyro]

Oh I see

I mean

[misty saffron]

the test first fills ram with certain values, then reads it all and checks if it’s the same it wrote

[final gyro]

The values are pretty close

Ok nvm

[misty saffron]

it should always be the same value, if it’s not - bad ram

[final gyro]

New errors popped out

What does cpu 10 mean?

CPU also dead?

[misty saffron]

just the core it used

no, it’s fine

[final gyro]

o ok

Cause I don’t have warranty for that lmao

[misty saffron]

it should tell you which stick is faulty at the end of the test, ideally

[final gyro]

o ok

That’s good

I think it came like this before

I remember when I first built this pc

It was like this as well

But i thought it was normal

[misty saffron]

yeah nah ram should always hold the data it’s been written without changes lol

[final gyro]

👍😭

[misty saffron]

but at least you haven’t spent a lot of time figuring out if it was windows

[final gyro]

Yea lol

Was about to reinstall windows again lol

I remember everyday my windows was corrupted

So I did the sfc scannow

But it stopped for a year

And now it’s back

[misty saffron]

interesting that the chips decided to behave

[final gyro]

Yea

But sometimes in cyberpunk it randomly crashes

Or in some games im playing

But it’s especially common in my code editor

I just lose all the data one day

The errors are stacking up exponentially

[misty saffron]

well yeah, objectively a good thing lol

[final gyro]

Also

Wasn’t this suppose to be quick?

Unless 20 mins is really quick

[misty saffron]

well it's quick, just that it's running a whole fucking suite of tests after encountering a fuckton of errors for some reason

[final gyro]

Oh I see

So if there was no error

Then it would’ve been like 4 mins

[misty saffron]

no, not really

only god knows why the programmers haven't made it abort after a certain amount of errors

[final gyro]

Yea lol

So does this test just tell you what ram is bad?

Like it will say “stick 1,2,3,4 sucks”

[misty saffron]

does addr start with BF in all errors?

[final gyro]

Wdym?

NOOOO that was 1 out of 4???

[misty saffron]

thos

[final gyro]

💀😭

[misty saffron]

this

sec i'll end your suffering

[final gyro]

It’s not all that’s BF

It’s like every possible combination

[misty saffron]

looks like stick 3 and 4 based on those

[final gyro]

o

[final gyro]

What about these?

[misty saffron]

yea 3 and 4

[final gyro]

o

[misty saffron]

have you seen it starting with A?

[final gyro]

I think so

Lemme check

[misty saffron]

0?

[final gyro]

I think I remeber something with A

Nvm no A

I was taking a picture everytime

[misty saffron]

sticks 3 and 4 then

[final gyro]

o ok

What about numbers?

Like 176

[misty saffron]

doesn't matter, even 1 is bad

[final gyro]

o

It’s kinda weird how I can’t see all the errors from the previous cases

[misty saffron]

pull sticks 3 and 4, run test for about 10 minutes, no errors - cool

[final gyro]

I can’t scroll up or anything

[final gyro]

Ok ima do that tomorrow and see what happens

Cause it’s 4am basically lol

And I don’t wanna wake the whole house

Also wait isn’t ram slots usually like 2,4?

If I take 3,4 out wouldn’t that cause a problem?

[misty saffron]

yea that'd be one of the puzzles, figuring out which is 3 and 4

[final gyro]

Oh bruh

It’s so scary taking it out

Cause the aio is in the way

[misty saffron]

looks clean ngl

[final gyro]

Ty

[misty saffron]

technically it should be sticks B1 and B2, so second and fourth

[final gyro]

o ok

[misty saffron]

left to right, counting from cpu side

[final gyro]

👍

I’m getting F now

[misty saffron]

actually i'm wrong, looked at the addresses again and it looks to be the fourth stick only

[final gyro]

o

[misty saffron]

which would make more sense

[final gyro]

So the last one

[misty saffron]

yea seems like it

[final gyro]

Wait then that might have explained why it didn’t error for so long

And today it decided to

1/4 is bad

[misty saffron]

just the last 16gb

based on your photos

[final gyro]

Wait what are you using for that?

[misty saffron]

calculator

[final gyro]

What the

How do you even read that?

[misty saffron]

the addresses it gives you are in hexadecimal, convert to decimal and you should have the exact 4 bytes where it failed

[final gyro]

Like the last digit is 4?

[misty saffron]

no, the test reads and writes 4 bytes each time

if it errors it tells you the address of those 4 bytes

[final gyro]

o

And how did you figure out that it was slot 4?

[misty saffron]

they are contiguous, so you can just divide and check which 16gb stick it was

layout literally just goes stick 1 -> 2 -> 3 -> 4

[final gyro]

o

Damn I didn’t even know about this

[misty saffron]

or is it actually 2 last sticks...

idfk i'm too sleep deprived for this shit

[final gyro]

Is it also 4 am for you too lol

[misty saffron]

10:52

[final gyro]

o

[misty saffron]

just haven't slept in pursuit of fixing my schedule

[final gyro]

I see

What happens after the test finishes?

Like the memtest86

Does it give you all the errors that occurred?

[misty saffron]

great question, might save the results somewhere

if at all, since you booted it from motherboard menu

i'm not sure

[final gyro]

💀

There’s probably gonna be a lot somewhere I feel like

The diagnostic did when I booted from the mobo

[misty saffron]

hold on, the kit was marketed to run at 4000mhz, correct?

[final gyro]

Yea

[misty saffron]

nvm then, can rma

[final gyro]

Yea

And it doesn’t even touch 3600mhz

Or 3500mhz

It’s at 3400mhz

[misty saffron]

just that this was a bit suspicious

because no vendor would accept an rma if it didn't run at xmp

[final gyro]

Wdym?

I don’t think I have xmp enabled

[misty saffron]

yeah that's weird

you can abandon the test btw, just saying

[final gyro]

o ok

[misty saffron]

and doublecheck if you're not running at xmp

[final gyro]

Ye

If it is then gg

[misty saffron]

well it didn't seem like it in bios

[misty saffron]

oh what

looks like every stick isn't stable

[final gyro]

💀💀😭😭😭

[misty saffron]

it really looks like it's running on xmp

[final gyro]

What the

[misty saffron]

and isn't stable on xmp

[final gyro]

Is it xmp out of the box?

[rough osprey]

ddr4?

[final gyro]

Yea

[rough osprey]

still above official support

[misty saffron]

try and make sure that xmp is disabled in bios

memtest reports 4000mhz xmp for whatever reason

[final gyro]

I open

And I get this

[misty saffron]

here it says 3400mhz though so idk

[final gyro]

Yea

I set it to that

[rough osprey]

just set it to 3200

[misty saffron]

bios weirdness maybe, just click through everything and disable xmp

[final gyro]

Yea

You think xmp might have caused it?

[misty saffron]

it looks like it

it can't be that all sticks just went bad at once

[final gyro]

Yea

Kinda weird they sent me a bunch of defects

And trident Z royal is a good brand I’m pretty sure

Yea I was disabled the whole time

Now it says my ram is 2133mhz

This is actually funny

[misty saffron]

try setting to 3000mhz and running the test for 10 minutes

[rough osprey]

is there a 3200 xmp profile?

[misty saffron]

no errors - raise to 3200

[misty saffron]

or this, yeah

[final gyro]

Wait so

3200mhz?

Or 3000mhz?

[rough osprey]

max of cpu

officially

[misty saffron]

just do 3200 xmp if there's a profile

[final gyro]

Where do I go for that?

Like enable xmp and do 3200mhz

[misty saffron]

probably the same dropdown where you took a photo

[misty saffron]

or do it there, shouldn't matter

[final gyro]

Ok

[misty saffron]

if 3200mhz isn't stable - go lower

welcome to ram kit marketing

[rough osprey]

does the xmp menu show one tho?

or does it just say enable/ disable

[final gyro]

I think it just shows enable disable

Or xmp 2.0

I remember seeing that too

[rough osprey]

can you enable + set it to 3200?

[final gyro]

Ok lemme try

What does xmp even do?

[rough osprey]

just a fast profile

[final gyro]

o

[misty saffron]

overclock profiles essentially

[final gyro]

Does that void warranty?

[rough osprey]

nah

[misty saffron]

no, it won't

[final gyro]

o ok

[misty saffron]

ram being unstable at 3400mhz when rated for 4000mhz xmp is definitely a first

[final gyro]

Yea lol

I lost the lottery so hard

o yea it’s enable disable

[misty saffron]

if you're saying it was doing this shit from day one, that's fucked

[final gyro]

Yea it was

[misty saffron]

vendor is supposed to test the chips but oh well

[final gyro]

Uhhhh

[misty saffron]

not just blindly say "this much"

[final gyro]

4000mhz xmp??

[misty saffron]

yeah no disable that lol

[final gyro]

Yea lol

[rough osprey]

what mainboard is this

[final gyro]

That shit ain’t running xmp

Asus

[rough osprey]

normally there are many profiles

[final gyro]

Wait what

[misty saffron]

what's the exact model? gonna google the manual rq

[final gyro]

Z690

I think it’s gaming wifi A

[misty saffron]

asus rog z690-a gaming wifi d4 you're saying?

[final gyro]

Yea

[misty saffron]

ffs asus

[final gyro]

Wait what are you trying to find?

[rough osprey]

do you have the ai overclock tuner

[final gyro]

Yea

But I never used it

[rough osprey]

what options does it show

[final gyro]

Uhh I forgot

Rn it’s in memtest86

[rough osprey]

okay

[final gyro]

I’m not even gonna talk about how it’s passing so far

[misty saffron]

kinda weird it says xmp 4000mhz there

[final gyro]

Cause it’s gonna get jinxed

[final gyro]

Yea

But ik damn well it ain’t running 4000mhz with xmp especially

[misty saffron]

but i assume it just pulls the info from somewhere, not indicative of what it's currently running on

[final gyro]

Yea

In task manager I got 3400mhz

[misty saffron]

just reboot if you get an error, no point in running it longer

[final gyro]

The blue screen of death pops out of no where most of the time

Sometimes it takes 1 hour

Sometimes 2 seconds

Wait this is like a new record it’s holding

[misty saffron]

well probably lol

i am still shocked that ram kit doesn't run stable on 3400mhz

[final gyro]

Yea

It’s running fine now on 3200mhz

I think I got scammed lmao

[misty saffron]

that's why i thought the sticks are dead, this is such dickhead marketing

[final gyro]

Yea

Ok so you guys want me to check ai overclock right?

[misty saffron]

well you can either check if there's a 3200mhz xmp profile or just forget about it if it's stable

[final gyro]

It’s at normal

I mean

Enabled

Disabled

[misty saffron]

try enabling and searching for different xmp profiles in bios

[misty saffron]

lmao

[final gyro]

The drop-down gives one

[misty saffron]

yeah just disable then and run at 3200mhz

[final gyro]

I like how it makes it 1.4v too

[misty saffron]

wait, the dropdown above that one

anything there?

[final gyro]

Idk what manual is

[misty saffron]

any different speeds in xmp 2?

[final gyro]

Yea

I remember xmp 2

That’s like ultra overclocked

[misty saffron]

select xmp 2 and check dropdown below

[misty saffron]

...

[final gyro]

What’s even the difference lmao

Damn 😭

[misty saffron]

literally the exact same profiles

thanks gskill

[final gyro]

Yea lol

[misty saffron]

whatever, set back to 3200mhz and run tests for a little while

if no errors - cool

[final gyro]

Ye

I could try 3333 mhz

And see what’s happening

[misty saffron]

well no harm in that

[final gyro]

Yea

Imagine I can use 2v on the ram

[misty saffron]

well if you could get accustomed to the burning smell

[final gyro]

Yea lol

Needs a liquid nitrogen cooler for it

It’s gonna be like one of those cpu overclock videos

But this time we are just trying to get the ram to be factory frequency

It’s advertised as 4000mhz

Wait what

[misty saffron]

don't open that can of worms man

[final gyro]

So basically my 3200mhz is overclocked?

[misty saffron]

it wouldn't run stable at 6400MT lol

[final gyro]

3333mhz is actually running fine

[misty saffron]

run it for a little while

[final gyro]

Last time the errors came at 40%

[misty saffron]

it might start throwing errors at some point

[final gyro]

o ok

Bruh that this point

It has to be illegal for them to sell me a 3333mhz kit

Advertised as 4000mhz

[misty saffron]

advertised 4000mhz xmp, go figure

[reef patrol]

The rated speed ultimately depends on the motherboard.

[final gyro]

Even worse with xmp

[final gyro]

But my mobo isn’t even ass 😭😭😭

[rough osprey]

your cpu is advertised to run at 3200 max

[final gyro]

o yea I think it goes a bit higher than that

[rough osprey]

it can

[reef patrol]

Are you on the newest BIOS?

[final gyro]

I feel like a bios update would brick the whole pc

Last time I did it I almost cried

[misty saffron]

everyone almost cries when updating bios

[reef patrol]

If RAM is sold as 4000mhz, it will run that at XMP, though it does not mean that the motherboard can handle it, especially on an older bios version.

[final gyro]

lol

[final gyro]

I got the 2022 version of bios

And the mobo came out 2021

[misty saffron]

everybody gangsta till the bios updater just freezes

[final gyro]

So it’s fairly new

[rough osprey]

i update bios version every time xd

[misty saffron]

...and unfreezes a minute later

[final gyro]

Yea that’s what happened last time lmao

[zenith silo]

Is it really that bad if you fuckup

[misty saffron]

depends on the motherboard

[zenith silo]

My bios update when flawlessly

[misty saffron]

some have backup firmware in rom

[final gyro]

You better start building a new pc

[reef patrol]

Ultimately it's the best suggestion if RAM won't run at XMP speeds.

[final gyro]

Yea ima check out if there’s a new bios update in a bit

[zenith silo]

I think mine might

Not quite sure

[misty saffron]

if no backup firmware and something went badly - oh well, bring out the eeprom programmer

[zenith silo]

I have a b550f from asus

[final gyro]

https://tenor.com/view/mr-bean-shock-time-to-get-up-out-of-bed-gif-11743384

[misty saffron]

bios flashback is that backup feature, i think

[final gyro]

Me to my mobo after it gets bricked

[zenith silo]

Oh sweet, that's reassuring for future updates

[final gyro]

I think there’s a button for that on my mobo

Bios flbk

[reef patrol]

Nice. Basically can't brick your motherboard then.

As long as you have a USB stick and a second pc

[final gyro]

Yea

[reef patrol]

V...

[final gyro]

😭

[final flame]

[misty saffron]

exactly why vendors will refuse your rmas lol

[final gyro]

Corsair gave me an extra fan when I rma

Cause they said oh sorry you gave us 3 fans but you only gave 1 back to you

[final flame]

Well thats corsair, they'll do basically anything

[final gyro]

So they gave me an extra fan

[final flame]

Except actually make a quality product

[misty saffron]

nzxt rma'd my aio based on a video of grinding sounds, literally nothing else

[final gyro]

No but the new fans are broken too

[final flame]

Like I said

[zenith silo]

I was very pleased with how easy lamzus RMA process was

[misty saffron]

genuinely thought it's a dead pump, turns out it was the fucking chipset fan grinding against the heatsink...

[final gyro]

Damn

[zenith silo]

I sent a vid of my mouse scroll being fucked (could've easily faked it too)

And they just sent out another unit

[final gyro]

Lian li said no rma

[reef patrol]

Chipset fans need to die as a concept

[final gyro]

Even though the strimmers were broken out of the box

[zenith silo]

1 of my deep cool fans shit the bed on me

I never bothered rmaing it tho

First week I had it, it shat the bed

[misty saffron]

well i've ripped it off my motherboard after i got tired of it grinding, so that's that

[zenith silo]

All the others were fine at least but now I have 2 ugly black fans in my all white setup

They also aren't argb

[final flame]

meanwhile on my kraken x72 it's only ever given me problems

[zenith silo]

• colors are off

[final gyro]

Yoo thats clean

[zenith silo]

Aside from the 2 out of place fans

[misty saffron]

nice 24pin atx spaghetti

[zenith silo]

Shhhh

[final flame]

had issues from the rgb bricking itself on the aio to bad thermal performance and the pump starting to die

[zenith silo]

I didn't bother cable managing

[final gyro]

This mine rn

[final flame]

never buying nzxt again

[final gyro]

The rgb screwed up

[misty saffron]

wouldn't be too happy buying nzxt either after they downgraded my sku with that rma

well, it's supposed to be a newer sku, but they removed some rpm control

[final gyro]

Hold on my aio is nzxt

[misty saffron]

for whatever reason

[reef patrol]

This is why you deal with sellers, not manufacturers.

[zenith silo]

Lol, my RMA'd replacement from lamzu was an upgrade

[misty saffron]

mine technically was an upgrade

[zenith silo]

I got a better color + full sized instead of mini (I regretted the mini)

[final flame]

my personal list of pc brands to never buy again
NZXT
Corsair
MSI

[misty saffron]

just that it missed a fucking feature

[misty saffron]

forgot one starting with r

[final gyro]

Razer?

[misty saffron]

ending in azer

[final flame]

oh yea

[final gyro]

💀

😭

[zenith silo]

Black was the old unit

[final gyro]

My headphones, mouse and keyboard are from them

[zenith silo]

Green is the new one

[final flame]

although personally I've only owned one product from em
original deathadder elite, and that's it

[zenith silo]

I used to be all razer until like 2020

I stopped buying any razer products

I refuse

[misty saffron]

everyone thinks razer is good until they get the synapse installer during windows oobe

[zenith silo]

Oh god

[final gyro]

Yoo that app sucks

[zenith silo]

Synapse is so ick

[final gyro]

It crashes my whole pc

[final flame]

synapse was good in 2.0 era, then 3.0 happened

[zenith silo]

3.0 is just..... God awful

[misty saffron]

i actually laughed out loud when i saw the fucking synapse installer RIGHT after booting windows for the first time

[final gyro]

You wanna see it in bios?

[misty saffron]

knowing razer, probably gonna happen soon

[final gyro]

Yea lmao