🔌│tech

[vagrant pagoda]

If I can deploy a gw/h in 2 months it wins

[steep creek]

Yep

[vagrant pagoda]

Yeah and cheap storage removes oil usage massively

[steep creek]

Also lol we export electricity for some strange reason then have to buy back when there’s not enough rain to power the hydro stations

[vagrant pagoda]

You can't just double your solar generation without compensating with storage

[vagrant pagoda]

Scaling generation is hard

If your next generator makes 100mw and you need 50

You sell off the 50

Then by back 20 when you aren't running it

There is a point at which buying power is cheaper than spinning up more generation

And when it's cheaper to sell than spin down

Big generators take time to spin up/down and that cost time and fuel

[steep creek]

Yes excess electricity gets exported, however it should have downscaled when our own grid was of low capacity which it didn’t. That’s my only issue with the system

[vagrant pagoda]

There is only so many steps

You only have so many small generators and so many medium size

And the larger you go the more time it takes to scale

[astral haven]

storage is also intensely expensive

[steep creek]

It is

[astral haven]

GB spent alot on their pumped hydro which is pretty good tho

[vagrant pagoda]

So if I want to turn down my 100 megawatt and spin up a couple of smaller 10 megawatt

If I then have to spin up that 100 megawatt in two or three hours I have lost money

So I can compensate some of that loss by keeping the 100 megawatts spinning in exporting it to someone else so they don't have to spin up their 100 megawatt

So even if these batteries are very inefficient if they are cheap and scalable they will explode in popularity

Also the materials are very recyclable and reusable

So even if the lifetime is low the total cost of ownership will be low

If I can build these in a brick plant and have masons lay them it makes it super cheap to install

[steep creek]

Planning the battery infrastructure would be costly, I’m unsure if it would be worth it because there are too many towns, all spread out with low population: maybe one way would be to treat them as one big city, all tied to one main battery hub

[astral haven]

batteries dont scale

[vagrant pagoda]

Battery storage is really easy

You just install it wherever your generators are

[astral haven]

you need something that scales like hydro

[vagrant pagoda]

Well technically you could take say a six plant natural gas facility and replace one or two of the plants with a mass scale battery

And turn that into a scalable facility

[astral haven]

batteries actually scale negatively
double the money is less than double the storage

[vagrant pagoda]

That's the whole point with these batteries

[steep creek]

Yah we have hydro, about 90+% of the country runs off hydro

[vagrant pagoda]

They are cheap material wise

So increasing storage without increasing the peak generation would be very cheap

[astral haven]

pumped hydro not only is modular (you can upgrade generation and storage separately)
the storage upgrades are rather cheap relatively speaking

[vagrant pagoda]

You missed the point about the carbon and concrete batteries?

If they are as good as they say it would be a massive difference in cost verse lithium

[astral haven]

sure

but its still cost per battery

you pay 2x materials you get 2x capacity

with hydro you pay 2x materials you get 8x capacity

[vagrant pagoda]

Yeah but you need water in bulk

Would you becoming a very hard to find resource in a lot of places

[astral haven]

sure but its not a consumed resource

you just need to get the water in the first place and replenish the leaks

[vagrant pagoda]

Also pump hydro doesn't work everywhere

[wheat plume]

Amazon tablets have ads on the lock screen??????

[vagrant pagoda]

Very hard to build one in the middle of a city

[wheat plume]

Bruh

[astral haven]

it works most places, its just very expensive

[vagrant pagoda]

But we can replace peak generators in the city with batteries

[astral haven]

now thats true

[vagrant pagoda]

And peak generators are the most costly and worse for the environment

[astral haven]

but you also shouldnt put peaking generators in a city

[cursive summit]

https://videocardz.com/newz/qualcomm-aims-big-with-snapdragon-x-series-for-pcs

Oooo

[vagrant pagoda]

You need peak generators closer to load to limit losses for transmission

[astral haven]

yes and no

[cursive summit]

These companies really can't do without "X"

[astral haven]

more efficient to build gigantic generators

[vagrant pagoda]

And also to help distribute load across the grid

[cursive summit]

8cx was confusing so let's just drop the 8 and c to leave it with X

[vagrant pagoda]

Yeah but you need peak generation closer to peak load

[astral haven]

even if you lose 5%, better to build a large full efficiency generator, the small ones lose efficiency

you might have to build 4 around the edge of your city

[cursive summit]

@ashen spindle Arm arch chips aren't necessarily cheaper to produce than x86 chips right?

There are architectural differences there, at least to make Arm perform similarly to x86

[vagrant pagoda]

Yes then when you have a sag in one section you can't just raise the entire grid voltage to compensate. Substations can only do so much

[cursive summit]

Let's say Qualcomm aims to enter Windows PC market with like, a Chromebook of sorts, it's not going to necessarily be cheaper than current offerings right?

[vagrant pagoda]

Which is why you have peak generation inside cities

[astral haven]

im pretty sure its relatively small amounts of generation

[vagrant pagoda]

You also can just spin up more big plants instantly

[vagrant pagoda]

But proportionally more cost and impact

It's the worst of all of it

They are the first aim for battery or any storage

[astral haven]

tokyo for example found it more efficient to use a liquid nitrogen (may have been helium) cable to transmit power from a superstation to a new substation than build a new generator

"high temperature"
ah yes very accurate description of ln2 temps

[ashen spindle]

Yeah no difference

This is just the first core from the Nuvia team they bought up a while ago

[cursive summit]

But, you know, to match x86 performance, don't Arm chips tend to be bigger?

[ashen spindle]

Not inherently

[cursive summit]

I think I read that they are physically larger cause they aren't necessarily as performant as they are efficient

So to get performance out of it, Apple makes big chips

[ashen spindle]

Arm or x86 makes effectively no difference

Die size for performance depends on foundry and design skill

See intel arc being massive compared to rdna2 on same node for same performance

[astral haven]

plenty of the riscv hype is perf/transistor

[ashen spindle]

Eh, it’s more the open source nature and better licensing options

[astral haven]

i mean the actual hype by companies to adopt it

[ashen spindle]

Idk only big companies using it I know of is tenstorrent and they don’t use it for that

[astral haven]

samsung

their new ssd controllers replace arm cores with a bunch of riscv ones

[ashen spindle]

For anything bigger than iot or a co processor though?

[astral haven]

nah but thats where being tiiiiiny matters

[ashen spindle]

For tiny ones it’s nicer because you have more freedom in what you can do

[astral haven]

exactly!

[vagrant pagoda]

Google what do you think I do for a living lol

[rough osprey]

disabling targeted ads is so fun

[astral haven]

heck throw a riscv core on a lattice semi chip lmao

[ashen spindle]

cant wait for people to scream apple needs riscv once M3 improvements are equally dead as A17

[wheat plume]

Is there a way to get back the option for 1080P30FPS on youtube? instead of having to drop to 480p to get 30FPS?

I looked for an extension and they all seem sketch looking

[umbral heron]

Hm...
Does YT encodes 1080p30 anymore?

[ashen spindle]

watch videos not uploaded in 60fps?

why would you even want that

everyone wants more frames and higher quality and lana looking for the opposite lol

[astral haven]

to be fair id prefer a 1080p30 vid to a 720p60 depending on the subject

[wheat plume]

Yeah

[astral haven]

and the 720p60 will likely be more data considering youtube

[wheat plume]

a lot of tech videos these days are also in 60FPS and idk why cause its just desktop recording

60fps is great for games though

[ashen spindle]

ok but what video has 1080p30 but 720p60

[wheat plume]

none

[ashen spindle]

so why do you want to downscale it then

[astral haven]

thats the point

id prefer to downscale to 30fps than downscale to 720p

[wheat plume]

I just wanna be able to choose 1080p30 instead of 108060 if my wifi drops speeds or whatnot

its not always needed to run 60FPS

[umbral heron]

It seems YT doesn't encode 1080p30 until you specify it, yt-dlp doesn't see such versions on 1080p60 videos

[umbral heron]

More frames is not always better
Interpolated animation is dreadful

[pale sigil]

That's a lot of episodes

[ashen spindle]

in this context if you downscale something that is already at 60 even with interpolated frames it's going to get fucked even more

[umbral heron]

Sure enough

[astral haven]

yep

but im already watching at double speed, so im usually not seeing the extra frames...

[ashen spindle]

it's not like youtube is using static bitrate though so 60fps videos arent using twice the data of 30fps

so I think the premise is flawed here

[umbral heron]

I can see no other solution than to rent a VPS, set up yt-dlp and ffmpeg there, pipe youtube videos to ffmpeg and stream from VPS directly
Or better internet

[astral haven]

yep
but 720p60 is similar bitrate to 1080p30, and the 1080p30 has better spatial quality

[ashen spindle]

they dont even use the same codecs for all resolutions still

[astral haven]

yep
thats also for quality of experience tho

they want the old clients to be able to use at least the 480p vids

[ashen spindle]

my point is it might be a bit misguided thinking that 30fps at1080p would solve many issues of video stutters

since it's not like 60fps is twice the data

[astral haven]

6m vs 4m is a pretty serious difference tho

[ashen spindle]

unless you watch tv static I guess

[astral haven]

and the 1080p30 encodes are nicer spatial quality than the 720p60 ones which are also around 4m

again 1080p60 isnt an option in this scenario

the options are 720p60 and 1080p30

[ashen spindle]

yet a video only done in 30fps might be higher bitrate so you still need to drop down, not to mention no extension can make youtube add an extra render target if its not already encoded to that

[astral haven]

the place where i eat lunch has atrocious reception, 1080p60 vids cant play without buffering, and even 720p60 has trouble sometimes, yet thats what i use
1080p30 would increase the quality that i see even if it wouldnt change the buffering

[ashen spindle]

maybe amd can get fsr3/afmf working for videos better than nvidias vide resolution does lmao

which still refuses to work for me

[astral haven]

wont help my phone 😦

[ashen spindle]

not the current one but one in a few years could do that too

[astral haven]

true

also if fmf is foss, someone may port it to youtube vanced lel

[ashen spindle]

someone did get it to work in MPC-HC by just tricking adrenaline

[astral haven]

nice!

[ashen spindle]

obvious issue that videos dont have motion vectors like games but that's all solveable stuff

well they have them but not as useable

and then on phones you get a NPU or something that gets used and it could work there soon

[astral haven]

yup

although nvidia thought that motion vector generation required a pretty huge hardware unit

so who knows how easy it is to implement in a general npu

[ashen spindle]

oh there is going to be a lot of stuff on open compute summit next week

https://2023ocpglobal.fnvirtual.app/a/schedule/

meta, amd, CXL

[astral haven]

👀

[ashen spindle]

maybe forrest gives us a mi300 preview

for SC next month

[smoky frigate]

I got the Monoprice Monolith M1070 planar headphones used on a craigslist-like. they sound wonderful. music that already sounds like shit isn't improved by them, but still listenable. everything else gets turned up a notch. awesome.

230bux well spent

[gusty kiln]

glad you aren't bothered by the 5khz ringing

[smoky frigate]

they fixed it in the 1070

[gusty kiln]

oh nice

[smoky frigate]

on my sound card, I don't even have to put on any EQ, it just sounds right. phone needs a little bit of help, but that's okay, I'm happy it can even drive them

(these are my first planar headphones. they might be highly flawed. still the best sounding thing I currently own)

[gusty kiln]

EVGA and creative still makew sound cards

unless you are talking about actual dac chips

it's all AKM and ESS nowadays

Fiio been using a lot of cirrus logic dacs in their entry level stuff

$$$$ bois are either using FGPAs or R2R

[smoky frigate]

mine has an SNR of 124dB and cost me 70bux, putting USB DACs to shame

[gusty kiln]

https://www.amazon.com/FiiO-K11-Balanced-Headphone-Amplifier/dp/B0CJFG3DC7/ref=sr_1_15?crid=3MKQHRW4H49R&keywords=fiio%2Bka&qid=1697046621&sprefix=fiio%2Bka%2Caps%2C63&sr=8-15&ufe=app_do%3Aamzn1.fos.f5122f16-c3e8-4386-bf32-63e904010ad0&th=1

this will porb be the go to entry level dac/amp for a while

[wheat plume]

https://youtu.be/vtX-EvLkRxw
🤤

you can use it like 2 displays in one

[reef patrol]

So... it has PIP?

[wheat plume]

no, two inputs side by side

this is two computers on the same monitor

[reef patrol]

Yes... PIP

[wheat plume]

PIP implies the second picture is inside the first

this is not, these are side by side

[reef patrol]

Not necessarily. Depends on the monitor.

Hardly counts as "cheating" though. Clickbait title (unsurprisingly)

[ashen spindle]

he literally calls it pip in the video lol

and yeah hardly cheating

[wheat plume]

this is PIP

second picture inside the first

[reef patrol]

That is also PIP

[gusty kiln]

PBP

[wheat plume]

^

[gusty kiln]

picture by picture

[wheat plume]

yeah

thats PIP

[reef patrol]

This is just a secondary input taking up half of the screen. You can debate semantics all you want, it's PIP for practical purposes.

[wheat plume]

PBP

[reef patrol]

I've tested several monitors with the PIP is separate from the main viewport with blank space

Quad cables here we go

[rough osprey]

anyone else discord broken?

[wheat plume]

yes

if I go to another server, this happens

[rough osprey]

im getting temporary network error on brower and desktop app

[fair gull]

no its PBP by definition as its not a picture in the picture. its a picture by the picture.

[wheat plume]

^

[gusty kiln]

it's 2 seperate mode in my monitor OSD

[reef patrol]

It is your prerogative to be wrong of course.
Goes back to murdering goblins

[fair gull]

the difference is PIP is a window ontop of a window basically

while PBP is windows side by side without overlap

[ashen spindle]

In 2011, after DirecTV released the HR34 Home Media Center HD DVR, Picture in Picture was introduced to all HD DVR models onwards, The feature has five options: Upper Left, Upper Right, Lower Right, Lower Left, and** Side-by-Side.**

so essentailly either one is fine

[wheat plume]

ooohhhh

indeed

Discord are going to make message links expire in 24 hours, which is good, will prevent scammers from using Discord as a CDN for their fake game downloads or Vbux Generator thats actually a RAT

🤔

[warm night]

me when there is always a relevant xkcd

[warm night]

they're not enforcing this for a while i believe

but they've already added the extra parameters to CDN links

[wheat plume]

yeh...

its far away for now

[fair gull]

well the main difference as defined by basically all implementations now is that pbp has both outputs have their own resolution which add up to the full screen res. while picture in pitcure renders a main view at the full screen res and a smaller view at a given fraction of the main res

[warm night]

discord is taking a huge shit

lets go

[reef patrol]

Not quite.

[warm night]

i guess im stuck in this channel on mobile for now

[fair gull]

message links? cdn files yes but even then you can automate the refresh via bots

[warm night]

literally the only place i can even see messages

[ashen spindle]

works again for me

[fair gull]

also not all cdn files just attachements of messages

[ashen spindle]

just here, not in other discord now

[fair gull]

stickers, emotes, profilepics, banners etc all remain non expiring

as far as i have seen

[warm night]

did you upload a new one and see

current ones might not be affected

rn

theres no need to do it for emojis and whatever so they may not have

[reef patrol]

Servers are still partially down.

This one cannot be watched.

[warm night]

everything seems to work from mobile now

can't even get in on desktop or web

[gusty kiln]

@prisma crag you seen Pariah Nexus yet?

[warm night]

nvm it is not fine

[wheat plume]

Youtube, why do all your links have an si parameter in them now when you share one?????

I remove it everytime I send a YT Link cause it sucks and idk wtf it is

[reef patrol]

All I heard about the show as "worst lightsaber fights to date, there's no weight behind anything", and I'm so tired of Nu Star Wars.

Every random character's getting a limited series.

[gusty kiln]

I enjoyed it, the only thing is that the pacing is a little off

Also Gen V is just as WILD as The Boys

[reef patrol]

It's great... but it has some weird Hollywood tropes to it.

Or rather... reverse ones.

[cursive summit]

https://www.forbes.com/sites/jaymcgregor/2023/10/11/genius-new-macbook-repair-tool-has-defeated-apples-hardware-lock/

Few weeks late but someone reported on it

[reef patrol]

Limited success.

[cursive summit]

https://www.theverge.com/2023/10/11/23913107/microsoft-windows-11-block-windows-7-8-keys-upgrade-activation

Aw

Nothing of value was lost

[reef patrol]

Oh nooo... I'll have to pay (checks eBay) 3 bucks for a key that was ... 3 bucks before.

[wheat plume]

TIL Krunner can solve algebra

[cursive summit]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ch9oOcMueqE

Woo, cheap Moondrop planars

[cursive summit]

https://www.techspot.com/news/100452-microsoft-plans-kill-vbscript-future-windows-releases.html

Not VBScript

[coarse cloak]

[thick elk]

I am sure a lot of tech-savvy Excel warriors will dread this day.

Now the thing that has kept them their job for the past 20 years is under threat.

[astral haven]

Most of the excel folks I know just use equations

[thick elk]

As far as I know it was quite common, people who learned as they go to automate things. At least something my dad talked about but I also heard it from other places.

[ashen spindle]

thats why they are adding python to excel and copilot

[thick elk]

I understand what they are doing but I at least hope any file with such scripts comes with plenty of warning before executing.

[hasty thunder]

time to see how the Audeze Maxwell really performs

[old marlin]

https://tenor.com/view/maxwell-maxwell-spin-spinning-cat-maxwell-spinning-gif-27234188

[gusty kiln]

@prisma crag

[young pecan]

The real solution.

GitHub activation script go brrrrrrrrt

[fickle ore]

https://tenor.com/view/nom-eating-hippo-hippo-baby-gif-15695692171848166518

[ashen spindle]

someone want some information overload https://chipsandcheese.com/2023/10/11/avx10-128-is-a-silly-idea-and-should-be-completely-removed-from-the-specification/

[crisp granite]

welp
PSU ordered
prime big deal ftw

[pale sigil]

What deal

[crisp granite]

some decent deals for amazon prime subscribers

got a PSU for 70 bucks less than it normally retails for, effectively in line with current pricing for the SF750
the PSU in question: the Corsair SF1000L

Big Deal Days or whatever

they end real soon, so I'd pounce on what you find

[young pecan]

Not like you have another choice.

Next SFF ATX PSU is Asus and it’s expensive af.

[crisp granite]

I mean...for the price...no

Seasonic does have an 80+ titanium unit

very lovely piece

but maybe not for over 400 bucks

this psu was half that

[young pecan]

Yeah fair enough lmao.

I trust Seasonic a lot more though.

[crisp granite]

same wattage, I might add

[crisp granite]

Corsair has long had the default PSU for ITX builds, in their SF750
I figure they can't screw up that badly

[young pecan]

Like fr Seasonic is just so much better. Never had a PSU from them be even slightly weird.

[crisp granite]

current build has a seasonic PSU actually

rock solid
very inexpensive at the time

think I paid something in the realm of 130 CAD

for a 750 watt
80+ Gold
semi modular PSU

[vagrant pagoda]

Silverstone big boy sfx

They have a 1000w sfx-l

[ashen spindle]

seasonic seem to mostly be a good options now, just as always gotta make sure the product is good though and not just trust brand name

[vagrant pagoda]

And 850 sfx

Cooler master has 1300w

[crisp granite]

same price as the SF1000L (also a corsair PSU)
figured since I really didn't need an SFX PSU, could use an SFX-L
why the fuck not

that and I don't actually know what next gen's flagship might suck out of a PSU
figured better to be safe than sorry

and, yk
might be able to use the PSU again when I rebuild my system in about a half decade

[crisp granite]

seriously though
the price savings on the SF1000L were...stellar
saved 70 CAD on a 270 CAD item
and the SF750 is currently sitting about 190

ten bucks more for 33% more wattage and a newer PSU design (the SF750 has been around a while, always a chance of being sent an older unit)

it'll fit in my Raw S1 with plenty of space for cables...funnily enough, the one thing that won't fit is my 3070 that I plan on using till the next gen flagship launches

I forgot that I got a pretty mammoth card back in 2020

xD

wish, once more
that I'd gotten the Ventus 3X 3080 instead of the Gaming X Trio 3070

ah...a quieter PSU
not that such a thing really matters when everything else screams at full tilt to keep cool playing Cyberpunk

[crisp granite]

didn't see this

but honestly...I think I picked ok
IS-67XT can definitely handle a 5800X3D

and my current system is perfectly fine in that regard too
it's six zen 2 cores
under a hyper 212

the only times I run into issues with cyberpunk, funnily enough, is in exterior environments where a lot is going on, and that is much more an inadequate CPU issue, more than a CPU not being cooled issue

[severe phoenix]

https://www.reddit.com/r/LaptopDeals/comments/175qfiq/ebay_price_drop_acer_nitro_5_gaming_laptop/

[halcyon moss]

Yet reports are that in general it runs better, even on SteamDeck

[misty saffron]

it runs better, but 1440p 120 fps on 3950x and rtx 2080 on all low settings is inadequate

numerous good developers have proven that a 2080 is still plenty good

have they ever ran their game on older hardware?

[fair gull]

please shorten the question: have they ever ran their game?

[cursive summit]

https://youtu.be/FT2yk9PL-t8

Why doesn't Intel just release a "big-A770" with double Xe cores

Would be a good 500$ card for top-midrange

Are those software gimped to disable some cores?

Cause there is difference in core configuration there compared to A750, is it physically different or did Intel just permanently lock those artificially

[fickle ore]

New Nordic https://www.nordicsemi.com/Nordic-news/2023/10/Nordic-announces-nRF54L-Series-expanding-industrys-most-efficient-Bluetooth-LE-portfolio

More 8khz wireless mice :3

[cursive summit]

Yeah looked it up, that looks like the same exact die on both

A770 is just a 750 anyways

[old marlin]

I mean

not surprising?

btw are the cards just massively inefficient

or why do they have 2 8 pin power plugs

ah

typical gpu stuff I assume

overprovisioning the fuck outta power plugs

because the user can't see the vrm

[fickle ore]

tldr?

I run my 7800xt on low mode in games haha uses like 80w max

ez savings

[halcyon moss]

oohh graphs with my graphics card in them. new stuff is significantly faster

[fickle ore]

one day

[halcyon moss]

thanks for reminding me about that complete failure

[fickle ore]

Ah

Ye I really wanted an intel gpu but alas no battlemage

[severe phoenix]

https://www.cnbc.com/2023/10/11/irs-says-microsoft-owes-an-additional-29-billion-in-back-taxes.html

[pale sigil]

So does a lot of companies

[severe phoenix]

I was apart of that as a advertiser kinda, got promised 5 free ones

One day

[fickle ore]

ripperino

I got 1 only thankfully

[severe phoenix]

I mean I didn't put any money in

I got a refund

[fickle ore]

Ah

[severe phoenix]

But shared the ink around

Referral stuff

I was "owed" 5 of them by the way the referall stuff worked

[fickle ore]

Im regard, no way to refund anymore or even chargeback

[severe phoenix]

Ah

[fickle ore]

Yeah I rememeber that

[severe phoenix]

Well, shame it never came out

[pale sigil]

KS in a nutshell

[halcyon moss]

hmm.. a 7700 as a 5700xt is almost twice as fast depending on the test

[fickle ore]

7800xt price only increased in my country hehe

weird af

[halcyon moss]

i like raytracing, but the raytracing im interested in (cyberpunk's superultraduper mode) is too much moneys for me

[reef patrol]

Like any other new fancy tech, it takes a couple of generations before it goes from being a luxury tech demo to being commonplace.

[halcyon moss]

all the other raytracing usually is very.. meh

[pale sigil]

I just don't care for Ray tracing thankfully 😅

Even in Cyberpunk

Idk why

But I'm glad I don't

[severe phoenix]

Cause you're a donkey

https://tenor.com/view/succession-greg-succession-testimony-so-it-be-so-it-is-gif-23741838

Lol

[pale sigil]

I kinda like Ray tracing mods in older games though

Idk why

Shader shit but still kinda nice

https://youtu.be/E1B1Km9c1jM?si=gGCdIvzgVQaHsXt2

[fickle ore]

Btw more Starfield + CS2 fixes and antilag+ support driver release yesterday
https://www.amd.com/en/support/kb/release-notes/rn-rad-win-23-10-1

[cursive summit]

The funny thing is idk really why it's so hard to run

Indie devs somehow manage to make raytraced lighting, hell, pathtraced lighting and audio and somehow it runs just fine

Why is it that "universal" solutions are so damn bad, yet homebaked ones are so damn good

[halcyon moss]

says a non game dev :p

[cursive summit]

But they did

A lot of reviewers are really outing themselves as either biased or incompetent these days

[cursive summit]

That doesn't have a word about antilag+

It's not technically even out yet though

And that's AMD's fault?

It's a tech demo

if reviewers can't read that's not their fault

But they did

There was a whole page suggesting how to get best results

And where the feature doesn't do well

[raw zephyr]

indeed

[cursive summit]

https://community.amd.com/t5/gaming/amd-fsr-3-now-available/ba-p/634265?sf269320079=1

There's a whole section on how to run it

How to enable it, recommended settings, drawbacks, etc

I'm pretty sure FSR3 rollout will for now be just for Unreal titles cause of the UE5 integration

They need to give people a guide how to review things?

It's a guide to the product?

That sounds like a guide

Is that really necessary?

That article at least for me puts together quite well what to expect, how to run the thing, etc

Well, it's not for reviewers specifically, just for general populace

Considering it wasn't released early for anyone to pre-release review

[fickle ore]

Guy needs glaSSes 😄

[ashen spindle]

I think you are mixing up things, FSR3 is officially out, AFMF is the thing in early access drivers

They are not the same thing

[cursive summit]

Per GPUopen it's not released yet

[fickle ore]

mfer something came loose inside my Naga V2 pro wtf

[cursive summit]

https://appleinsider.com/articles/23/10/11/microsoft-hammered-with-29-billion-back-tax-bill

Pay your taxes

Lol, Microsoft agrees that they own at least 18 billion to IRS https://microsoft.gcs-web.com/node/31951/html

[fickle ore]

glad to know my 365 sub money goes to US boomer SS check

ngl 18b is a lot tho

dont worry there is 100 lawyers already churning how they can reduce that amount

[fair gull]

in general microsoft focuses most on enterprise applications and sass

the consumer market is not all too interesting to them

[cursive summit]

Nvidia in 2024

[fickle ore]

windows is just the backbone where they can profit from other stuff, thats why its "free"

😛

[fair gull]

in general windows AND xbox (and gamepass) are just the entry point for people to start sticking with them and buy into other more profitable things

[fickle ore]

basically

watch cortana go sub based or is it already?

premium sub now with cortana

[fair gull]

i dont think apple would actually do that

[fickle ore]

Wait msoft ai is not called SIRI im dumb sry

[wheat plume]

How TF are you saying Windows license sales aren't profitable???
They cost like 150 to 200 dollars each

[fair gull]

cortana

the halo one

[fickle ore]

look above

[fair gull]

no ones saying they arent profitable... they just dont care too much as enterprise licenses are way more profitable

[old marlin]

enterprise are their biggest customers

especially ones using azure

[wheat plume]

Oh

[ashen spindle]

Not to mention nobody pays the fully license prices as user lol

[fair gull]

azure, office 365 and windows mak licensing

thats where they make money

the reason windows is free to use for personal use is that they want you to buy into their sass

like all companies basically

look at adobe

[fickle ore]

adobe costs way too much as a normie

woud otherwise sub

[fair gull]

yep but they also dont care as they also target enterprise

and big companies still buy adobe

[fickle ore]

yea I use my work laptops adobe for normie stuff

pdf24 cant edit pdf files

[fair gull]

oh yeah

well it can "edit" them

but adobe can do it nice and better

[fickle ore]

yeye just cant add text or remove text from pdf files

[old marlin]

they just bought all their competitors

to become irrelplaceable

normally the governments should step in

they just didn't though

[fair gull]

i think with adobe they still have competitors for basically all products

the main issue is that adobe products all work together

and you can link project files in other projects etc

so assembling a suite to replace it is basically impossible as it relies on reexporting files over and over for assets in video editing for example

and then ofc adobe bridge etc

for offloading render work

but the same sort of goes for MS office

while libre and openoffice exist... they sorta suck

[old marlin]

yea idk

ms just had a strong enouhg grip on the market

so no real competitors could emerge

since basically forever

[fair gull]

also the whole but microsoft makes hundreds of euros per win license falls apart when you look at them upgrading licenses for free since ages now

my win10 and by extension win11 are licensed by a win7 ultimate license

and that one came from somewhere on the net

[ashen spindle]

My one license is from university supply the other I still disk t activate

Going to upgrade pc next spring and the whole time win10 was just inactive

[fair gull]

ngl i pay for my own google stuff

[woven laurel]

i pay google enough in personal details

[west valve]

you know I typed "license windows 11" and found windows 11 pro for 19.85 bucks lol, if you know where to find, it's cheap

[old marlin]

doesn't mean it is a valid license

[west valve]

well mine has costed 10 bucks, still works 5 years later

so..

oem license are way cheaper than the usual, somehow

[old marlin]

still does not mean it is a valid license

people have gone to court for that

a valid windows 10/11 license is like 80-100€

[west valve]

"Windows OEM keys refers Windows Licenses sold to OEMs, in bulk, at a discount, by Microsoft. If the OEM key is genuine/original, then there are no pros or cons, compared to a regular windows license."
Never had a problem, every people that I know of, still no problems, even for the oem version of words etc 🙂

[fickle ore]

windows 8 pro cost 10€ that was grandfathered into 11 😄

[old marlin]

not a legal and valid license

[fickle ore]

It is

[old marlin]

simply not true

[fickle ore]

straight from microsoft

windows 8 was so hated hehe

[old marlin]

just because it activates does not mean it is a legal license

[old marlin]

lol

I think the grandfathered in licenses are all valid

since they just gave you a legal license when you moved to win 10

[west valve]

you know, if this would be illegal, those sites, which are the same, and main seller in online shopping in my country

would have been teared down

[old marlin]

you mean exactly what they did here?

[west valve]

you know, I get it, you've got your opinion, let's agree to disagree 🙂
I don' t like wasting my time, waste your money it's fine 🙂

[old marlin]

well, I know a lot of people already went to court because of illegal licenses

and the cheap ones basically all are either stolen OEM licenses

or obtained through other illegal means

[ashen spindle]

It will work for the user and they aren’t going to revoke that, doesn’t change there are cases against it and if you were to look deeper it would be obvious those are at best grey area keys

That’s not really an opinion

[old marlin]

yea

you are better off just bypassing a license all together than using a stolen one

both illegal, one is less obvious since it doesn't report it to ms with your ip adress

[west valve]

ok, just for giggle, you know people are running windows cracked and never received anything? 😄

[ashen spindle]

Yes

[old marlin]

yea

you know a lot of people don't use seatbelts and didn't die from it?

[west valve]

hahaha, I was so sure to hear a so edgy comment from you about that x'D

https://tenor.com/view/bait-troll-take-that-this-is-bait-fish-gif-17567465

[ashen spindle]

Something being illegal or breaking ToS not being chased after doesn’t mean it’s suddenly following the terms

[west valve]

I agree, but people that are running windows cracked are well, a big number of people, and they never received any threat of going into courts etc

so starting to say an oem will get you to prison, lal

[ashen spindle]

Where was that being said

[west valve]

didn't he apply this?

[old marlin]

that is exactly my point

[west valve]

or was I misunderstand it, then my bad^^

I was so sure!!!

[old marlin]

running it cracked is a lot lower profile than buying an illegal license

since you don't report to their activation server with your ip

and you don't appear in some sussy webshops database as a customer

[reef patrol]

Purely for arguments sake, I have zero memory of Microsoft -ever- suing anyone for using a grey market Window key. No matter if the keys were sold or stolen from an OEM.

At most they will do a blanket ban of a range of keys if ever identified. They literally couldn't give a shit, since most of their key money is from prebuilt licenses.

[west valve]

same

[old marlin]

there were thousands in germany

[reef patrol]

Got a link? I'm curious now.

[ashen spindle]

It started because one site was selling coupons in stores for it

[old marlin]

to news articles?

[ashen spindle]

Not the individual user got sued

[old marlin]

not public ordeals

https://www.golem.de/news/windows-und-office-tausende-verfahren-wegen-unserioeser-microsoft-lizenzen-2103-154691.html

[reef patrol]

Then I'm still correct.

[old marlin]

not in that case at least

[reef patrol]

Obviously retailers will get sued.

[ashen spindle]

Ah right nvm they did try

[old marlin]

since lizengo had the right documentation

in retrospect they found out lizengo also sold stolen keys btw

worst part is that under german law you are helping in money laundering

[reef patrol]

My old workplace used to sell refurb licenses at full retail price. Such a ripoff, but in the two years I worked there it was never an issue for the customer.

One time a Microsoft rep came by one of the stores, and one of the interns mentioned it - and that cost the boss a substancial fine and having to document every license sold going back months.

[old marlin]

lol

well

you can sell refurb licenses

if you do it right

[ashen spindle]

Guess that intern got promoted to customer

[west valve]

so which means, the one that bought it, didn't have any prob, then?

only the ones that has done the sell

[old marlin]

depending on where you live

[ashen spindle]

In this instance not much came from it but doesn’t really set a precedent for all situations

[old marlin]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2RY9dij8WBw

good youtube channel with mediocre generated subtitles

you can fight it

[west valve]

so yeah, as long as I live, If I see a cheap key on a website I know of, if I need it, I won't hesitate^^, well like before, eheh

[old marlin]

still a lot of effort for something that costs you 100 bucks for something you will use daily

[reef patrol]

Couldn't fire him.

Not like he did anything wrong in a legal sense. That was the store managers.

[west valve]

if I do recall, the only prob with oem, it is linked to your motherboard, so must buy a new one, with a new board, while the main license it's usable in any motherboard as long as there is only one in usage, right?

[reef patrol]

Yes.

Not specifically the motherboard. Microsoft uses some kind of obscure points system - Some components are more points. Motherboard swaps almost always trigger it.

[old marlin]

not necessarily

[reef patrol]

So now you gotta sit on the phone with a robot, typing in a long ass code with no way to redo a wrong input. Gotta start over.

[ashen spindle]

The question is though if you don’t want to pay for the regular price why pay at all, if you are knowingly getting it at prices that mean something is wrong, why not just go all the way not not pay

[old marlin]

also an OEM license almost always is obtained illegaly if you buy a refurb one

unless they got it from systems being destroyed

which would be unusual with keys for new windows versions

[reef patrol]

Microsoft sell official refurb keys.

Sticker and everything - Had to sell them with these by law. (Or at least by contract)

[old marlin]

ah

you mean COA ones?

[reef patrol]

I don't know the specifics. But they were these but labelled as REFURB specifically.

[old marlin]

ah

yea but afaik only microsoft is allowed to do that

[reef patrol]

Microsoft forced us to buy these for customers anytime we sold a refurbished computer with Windows preinstalled. Even if not used. Had to slap it on to replace any existing ones.

[west valve]

well getting tired of running cracked version, you know at some point a cracked windows start to be unstable somehow, so you must do a reset of your pc once 2 years +/- while now with my oem, I no longer needs to do it, my windows is as fresh as the first still installed

[reef patrol]

So we'd just note down the old 7 keys and use those as keys if we needed to replace a customer's motherboard or something and Microsoft's robot wouldn't accept the reactivation.

[west valve]

first time*

[ashen spindle]

at some point a cracked windows start to be unstable somehow
Huh

[old marlin]

should behave the same as regularly activated windows

[west valve]

that's my experience with cracked windows^^

[ashen spindle]

Yeah no not related to the crack unless you got some bitcoin miner installed along with it

[reef patrol]

Literally how? 😄

The activators are simple scripts run once a month to re-active on the "company KMS server" running on your own PC.

Nothing's running or installed that does anything meaningful.

[west valve]

Don't know, I'm not the kind to download movies and all, I mean pirate yarrrr, but at some point, even while running the usual prog' to clean my pc, always at some points my windows cracked ended up unstable

[ashen spindle]

Still has nothing to do with it being cracked unless you did use some actual malware for that lol

[old marlin]

prog' to clean my pc got the culprit

[west valve]

lal

[old marlin]

"cleaning" your pc aka fucking with the registry is always a good method to get your OS to behave oddly

[west valve]

to be fair, could be, but now I no longer have that prob with an official key

so^^

[ashen spindle]

Not could be, that is the case, you might have had issue on a cracked windows but that was not related to it being cracked

[west valve]

well, it could also be the one that I've got, so in a way, we could say, it was related to my windows being cracked, because the crack itself was fishy lal

[glacial jolt]

Did u guys hear from the magnetic akko Keyboard

Maybe a beast too

[slim sonnet]

interesting

[glacial jolt]

Jep

This Thing Could be F fast

Not like light, but fast

[slim sonnet]

idk what that means that those model F boards someone was mentioning?

or you mean the naughty word

[glacial jolt]

Jep the naughty F

😄

[slim sonnet]

[glacial jolt]

Hopefully there will be some tech vids soon

[signal vector]

Can someone help me. Just got my keyboard and want to customize it but the weeb page tells me to give permission to connect.
And I just don't see we're I can do it.

[ashen spindle]

#1019755933959733258

[cursive summit]

Also what browser are you using

[signal vector]

Firefox

[cursive summit]

Windows Firefox eh?

[reef patrol]

Firefox does not support Wootility.

[signal vector]

Oh ok

[cursive summit]

Download Vivaldi

Firefox but better

Sadly chromium but.. it's pretty damn good

Only reason I'm not ditching Firefox is cause I'm too lazy to copy all the damn local passwords off firefox to a password manager

[fair gull]

does your manager not include csv import?

[cursive summit]

Uh, no?

[fair gull]

bitwarden for example made it easy for me to migrate from firefox and safari/apple keychain to it

also meant i had to declutter thousands of logins

[empty wren]

Pixel buds drop has arrived

[gusty kiln]

First one might be annoying if you like to sing along with your music

[empty wren]

Actually has a revert option

[gusty kiln]

Nice

I wish samsung made an updated galaxy beans

[empty wren]

Who knows maybe they will

They have their Samsung tags

[old marlin]

I've honestly been enjoying buds a whole lot at work

[pale sigil]

Pro?

Ye

[gusty kiln]

3rd gen airpods for Android and PC is my endgame

[empty wren]

Interesting

Did you know the pixel buds pro can swap between windows and Android media so long as you pause the original?(do hope they give more options to maybe prioritize one device or another)

[gusty kiln]

Interesting

[empty wren]

Yeah and it is instaneous

[gusty kiln]

JBL Quantum TWS Noise Cancelling Gaming Earbuds (2.4Ghz Wireless or Bluetooth),Black, Small https://a.co/d/7lzAUJT

These are the only in ears I would consider because of the 2.4ghz dongle

[empty wren]

I see

[gusty kiln]

Microsoft teams is horrible and keeps not picking up my mic on my wireless earbuds

Even on headset mode

And checking the input/output

[empty wren]

On windows?

[gusty kiln]

Yeah

Might be the laptop though, tons of work security software

[empty wren]

Did you disable laptop mic?

[gusty kiln]

Lemme check

Yeah the intel mic array is disabled

[empty wren]

Seems like a teams issue then

I know discord has conflict if in a call and connected to a headset

However it offers to swap to the new one

Even Bluetooth related

[old marlin]

Teams audio implementation is horrible

[gusty kiln]

Teams is all that my company uses

Even zoom would be better

[astral haven]

we use all 3, teams definetly has more cons than pros lel

[gusty kiln]

[astral haven]

i have a confrence system (speaker, mic, camera) hooked up to my pc and teams is very unhappy about it
it always wants to use the speaker when i select the mic, but i want it to use my headphones

[gusty kiln]

Output and video is usually fine

Mic input is the only issue I'm facing

[astral haven]

gotta keep in mind there are 2 output devices for bt headphones, the one that supports mics and the one that doesnt

[gusty kiln]

I make sure it is in headset mode on the sound setting

[astral haven]

😦

[gusty kiln]

Yeah it's a pain

So I wonder if a tws with a 2.4ghz dongle would bypass all of that

Soundcore and epos also have those

[astral haven]

you should also be able to get a bluetooth audio dongle

like the btd800 or creative one

[gusty kiln]

Hmmm

[astral haven]

it presents the computer as an audio device

[gusty kiln]

Can those be used with default windows drivers?

[astral haven]

yep!

[gusty kiln]

Cuz software download is 50/50 on my company blocking it

Can't even use Chrome remote desktop

[astral haven]

that one sounds strange

they blocked extensions?

[gusty kiln]

Extensions are mostly fine

[astral haven]

cant just boop it?

or is it blocked on the network level

[gusty kiln]

Yeah network block

[astral haven]

figures

[tough crypt]

hella excited getting my saturn pro mousepad tomorrow then my pc parts on the 20e

[halcyon moss]

All. Major ones support importing

[gusty kiln]

https://reddit.com/r/headphones/s/SsW239j4m2

[empty wren]

Does not work with humming I will say

[pale sigil]

@wheat plume

[wheat plume]

Ew, Windows Phone Link

also yes, get 14

is gooooooddddddd

[gusty kiln]

Oof

[wheat plume]

Pro?

[empty wren]

Sorry I meant it ignores humming

[empty wren]

Yes

[wheat plume]

Damn it

A Series are such shit value for money

[empty wren]

The hearing safety check could probably come the A series I imagine

[wheat plume]

Nah, I doubt it

[pale sigil]

Now I wait 3 hours for it to install lol

[empty wren]

Seems silly if Google forgoes it, since the hearing protection has been missing for a while

[wheat plume]

Well, Android 14 already alerts you if you are listening too loudly

[empty wren]

Well good enough then

[wheat plume]

so they dont have to bring it to the Buds themsevles

I have yet to see that alert, which is a good thing LOL

[empty wren]

All this really is

[wheat plume]

oh hmm

[smoky frigate]

I may have to buy a digital audio player again to drive my new headphones... after all these years. if I get a european one, will I still get cucked by volume limits?

(phone is putting up a valiant effort, but it's not up to snuff)

[empty wren]

There are some external dacs out there

[smoky frigate]

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005005516171071.html yeah I was thinking of this one, should I get one

but first I wanna see how the wacky world of DAPs has evolved since I last looked

[rough osprey]

they removed the Spotify heart :(

[gusty kiln]

Ahh ok nice

[gusty kiln]

Budget?

[smoky frigate]

for a DAC? not more than 50bux. DAP, about 300

(I am a cheapskate)

[lofty pivot]

for sub $50 i'd get a moondrop dawn pro

very new release, great little dac/amp that's just been updated

[sharp badger]

?

[smoky frigate]

oh, based. it's a CS43131, very beloved from what I read

[rough osprey]

then dont update

[lofty pivot]

if you want even more power $80 gets you that new fiio fa13 dac/amp that also just released, even more powerful

[rough osprey]

its a plus now

[lofty pivot]

but if you don't need the extra power then the dawn pro is great for $30 less

the little mini portable dac/amps have gotten crazy powerful lately

[smoky frigate]

my headphones have an impendance of 60 ohms, not crazy

[lofty pivot]

oh yeah that's not high

i saw recently even DMS swapped to using a mini portable dac/amp too. His is the super fancy $200-300 one, but still - tiny little thing lol

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v5qenyVwumg

[sharp badger]

Read some article about that now but feel like they could've kept the heart and just added the functions?

[smoky frigate]

heh, I believe a lot of heft and weight are often added for marketing purposes. psychologically, it works on me too. but I have limited space in pants, so something small is required!

https://www.ebay.com/itm/255096654642

this is the same chip that the Moondrop uses, and has been the low-cost, low-weight standard for a while. sadly, very hard to get in europe

[lofty pivot]

i prefer separate wire personally for my dongle dacs, just cause then I can replace the wire and not the whole thing if it gets dodgy

[sharp badger]

https://www.amazon.de/UGREEN-Adapter-Headphone-Compatible-iPhone-gray/dp/B082WG5VTK/ref=mp_s_a_1_3 Order it from Amazon?

[smoky frigate]

that's not the same one, I keep finding this one a lot too, but I haven't paid it any mind

[sharp badger]

Ah ok I've been happy with it though

[smoky frigate]

based!

is it volume limited for you? I'm wary of euro models

[sharp badger]

I've had bad Type-C to 3.5mm dongles but this one has been able to push the volume so don't have to have it maxed to even hear anything

[smoky frigate]

good to know, thanks. european laws are stupid about this

[sharp badger]

Think that it was a "Hama" Type-C to 3.5mm that was bad

[smoky frigate]

oh god, Hama sucks so hard. I avoid them wherever possible, except network cables. which are impossible to fuck up

[smoky frigate]

fair point! I climb ladders and move around a lot where I work, so the less dangly bits that can get pulled out by accident, the better

hence me insisting on a phone with a headphone jack. I just didn't think I'd get a pair of headphones cheap that would outclass it.

[final flame]

I personally have had quite a few issues using dongles on samsung phones, Samsung probably uses a really shit driver that causes issues
haven't had issues with my ipad or pc with the same dongle

I think it may be from power draw from the device, samsnug and their crazy power saving tactics

[astral haven]

the apple dongle is known buggy

[old marlin]

[astral haven]

it uses an apple specific volume extension that windows ignores, and android misinterprets

[old marlin]

Has been fine on my Samsung phone the one time i ised it

[final flame]

using Uapp works great as it bypasses the samsung drivers
but when closing the app it goes back to having issues

[old marlin]

Mine is getting sticky though somehow

[gusty kiln]

"Sticky"

[final flame]

My moondrop click dongle has issues with noise and has issues when the volume of the track goes down too low

the dongle seems to power down when the volume gets too low

[old marlin]

Yea i think the cable part is getting soft

Might replace it at some point

[final flame]

this isn't the fault of the dongle as it doesn't happen on pc or my ipad

[old marlin]

Bit it basically doesn't move anywaysjust at work to power my buds on my lapy

[final flame]

I want to eventually get the moondrop dawn

https://shenzhenaudio.com/collections/moondrop/products/moondrop-dawn-pro-dual-cs43131-portable-usb-dac-amp

[gusty kiln]

@final flame did you see the schiit midgard?

[final flame]

what about it, is it a new product?

[gusty kiln]

It replaces the magnius

Might be a good upgrade for you

[final flame]

oh cool

[lofty pivot]

Bluetooth mini dac/amps are pretty nice too. More expensive but really nice to not be tied to phone at all and just have the amp in your other pocket

I use my fiio btr5 every day at home just to not deal with being wired to the phone

[final flame]

time to buy another adapter

[smoky frigate]

@lofty pivot linked it earlier. very intriguing device. not sure I believe the dual/quad DAC gimmick, but it can't hurt (except your battery)

[lofty pivot]

The fiio ka13 is same thing as dawn pro I believe too, but they shoved in an extra amp to boost its power even more

[final flame]

is there any good multibit dacs schiit sells?

damn I might as well go pick it up in person at this point

[steep creek]

afeela 🤩

[gusty kiln]

At least from reviews, the bifrost is the best one to get

Dunno about the modi multi 2

[final flame]

going full dbrand marketing

[gusty kiln]

Kekekeke

[smoky frigate]

https://www.amazon.com/Geekria-Portable-Headphone-Balanced-CS43131/dp/B0BZTWZXKX

apparently, this has the same chipset as the Moondrop

also, the wattage doesn't appear to cut it for planar headphones, even efficient ones. drat. I need to beef it up.

[sharp badger]

Do you need to use Planar headphones on the go?

[smoky frigate]

I would like to, yeah.

[sharp badger]

128GB.... for that price 😅

[thick elk]

Yea, gotta make more money on the upsell, the apple way

[cursive summit]

Shite phone for that price

[thick elk]

meanwhile my € 250 phone from 2 years ago has double the storage

[smoky frigate]

1300 finland dollars! oof. looks like I'll have to deep dive on headphone amp wattage. the Moondrop Dawn Pro can do 120mw, which will probably need to double

[sharp badger]

For €400 one can buy the ''popular'' A54 that has 258GB lol

[empty wren]

Actually it seems decent this time around

Especially more if Google delivers 7 years of update

[cursive summit]

SoC is still way worse than snapdragon models

Which are cheaper with better internals than this thing

[empty wren]

Yes but do you need more power

[cursive summit]

And 7 years of updates is bleh

[empty wren]

I bought a phone for the same price with a 8 gen 1+ still has scroll jutter

At least with the tensor chip you get better battery

[cursive summit]

Tensor G3 can't match a Snapdragon gen 1 I'm pretty sure

[empty wren]

Of course

[cursive summit]

And Snapdragon 8 gen 3 is coming out this year

Battery I'm not sure Google is better than Qualcomm either

The only thing that Google is agreeably doing really well is that screen

Very bright, HDR10+

[empty wren]

Camera and video also look great

[cursive summit]

But I don't really care so, whatever

Camera's still worse than many other phones

[empty wren]

Black people do get weird artifacts from the brightening of the video feed though

[empty wren]

Nahhhhh

[cursive summit]

Yess

[empty wren]

Then that is subjective choice

Because the software backs it up

Not everyone may like the picture style though

[cursive summit]

Gcam is pretty good, no cap

But camera wise it's not the best

Sony beats it out

[empty wren]

If you mean the hardware

Sure

But with the Sony phones

Probably need to use pro mode

Which Google actually put this time on the pro phone

But only the pro phone....

[sharp badger]

But then again the Sony phone is for Niche people

Google is more Point-and-shoot

[empty wren]

Yep

And now point shoot and edit quickly

[cursive summit]

Sony best 💪

[empty wren]

Well good to know you like Sony over others

[cursive summit]

Can't believe though that the most basic features like a sim card, sd card tray, 3.5mm jack are now "niche features"

[empty wren]

Yes the tooless sim tray is cool

[empty wren]

Yeah it is wild blame apple

Sd card tray may as well still exist with sim tray

[sharp badger]

Don't need a SD card when i've got 512GB of storage , the 3.5mm is yeah whatever i've got dongles and TWS and the S23U has a Sim card

[cursive summit]

Again, I get that 3.5mm jack disappearance, we are transitioning to wireless era

Which I am getting accustomed to but not really liking it

It's fine

[empty wren]

That is fair

[cursive summit]

SIM card? Esim is good but I like physical more

[empty wren]

Headphones do not need a battery

[cursive summit]

However truly the biggest issue is that sd card tray

You are now fully forced to pay more for a phone to get more storage

[empty wren]

Instead a wire could exist in fact Asus was gonna make some hybrid ones but canned them they had a ess sabre dac on em too

[cursive summit]

And with no way without some cloud bullshit to get more storage

SD card slot is a must have

[smoky frigate]

3.5mm is still common on budget phones, where it is also the most needed

[empty wren]

Can have a sim/sd card tray combo and esim too

[cursive summit]

Sony does everything, with amazing internals, best in class cameras, great minimalist design

Best phone

[empty wren]

Depends on the person honestly

[cursive summit]

You do pay for it though

[empty wren]

I mean to be fair

You get nearly everything camera screen/camera hardware wise

[sharp badger]

Loads of storage yet to fill

[empty wren]

Does Sony still have dual speakera

[empty wren]

Same

[cursive summit]

Probably?

Oh yeah Sony is also Victus 2 glass, IP65/IP68

So great reliability

[empty wren]

I mean the gorilla glass victus does not really matter

Still glass

[cursive summit]

Uh, that's wrong Cruella

Glass comes in different types, and Victus is pretty damn good

[empty wren]

Lemme guess it is tempered glass with oleophobic coating

You know apple put sapphire in their camera lens it is wild, and it still scratches and shatters

[sharp badger]

The S23U has it too?

[cursive summit]

Few others do, yes

[empty wren]

An HTC phone had a sapphire on the front vex

Now that was interesting

[cursive summit]

Sapphire is pretty cool, has a damn great scratch resistance rating

But lab made sapphire is still expensive

[sharp badger]

Yeah the HTC U Ultra or what was it called?

[empty wren]

I think so

[cursive summit]

There was a... CAT phone I think? That had a thermal camera

I hope some mainstream phones get that

[empty wren]

https://youtu.be/yvlYOOLmxgw?si=-2TojUMxHi4URatg

[cursive summit]

Cause it's hella cool

[empty wren]

You know there are attachments

The orange YouTube channel guy who was recently under fire uses them

[smoky frigate]

HTC? ain't heard that name in a while

[cursive summit]

Well that's an old phone though

[smoky frigate]

oh that explains it

[sharp badger]

Yeah the Cat S62 Pro

[empty wren]

This came out this year supposedly

[cursive summit]

https://tenor.com/view/skeptical-futurama-fry-hmmm-i-got-my-eyes-on-you-gif-17101711

[sharp badger]

Specs are just meh 😅

[cursive summit]

I wish I could read

[smoky frigate]

vex you LIAR

[cursive summit]

7 gen 1 is quite meh

[smoky frigate]

!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[empty wren]

I mean for most people fine

[final flame]

not even on the go, if you ever want to listen to music outside

[cursive summit]

What's up honey?

[sharp badger]

Yeah, sure

Just thought that Planar would be best used inside 🤷

[final flame]

music outside hits hard
especially stuff that is open and atmospheric

[smoky frigate]

taking a walk with planar headphones is quite enjoyable, can still hear the rustling of the forest while listening to music

[sharp badger]

Ok 😄 👍

[final flame]

feeling the subtle wind on your skin

the smells of the outdoors

[cursive summit]

You'd hear that with 1) Any open back 2) Some in-ears that have microphones that allow you to enable "clarity mode" and hear outside sounds

But yeah planars are quite good

Although methinks I prefer dynamic drivers over planars

Never tried electrostatics

[sharp badger]

Also while talking phones : https://www.gsmarena.com/the_oneplus_open_will_be_unveiled_on_october_19-news-60209.php

[cursive summit]

Meh

[empty wren]

Clone

[cursive summit]

Foldables are cool but not great

Limited lifetime

[pale sigil]

@empty wren did you get a pixel

[cursive summit]

ROLLABLES will be the solid shit

But idk when we'll see one

[empty wren]

No maybe later like next year

[smoky frigate]

personally I'm waiting for liquid phones before upgrading

[final flame]

foldable displays are too soft imo
when it can't be damaged by a fingernail let me know

[empty wren]

The ones with fish inside ?

[cursive summit]

Aren't rollables using normal glass?

[empty wren]

Yes

[cursive summit]

So they don't have nearly as many drawbacks as foldables

[empty wren]

The display just unrolls since it is curved

[cursive summit]

Fuck me I want a rollable phone in the market

[smoky frigate]

just liquid! carry your phone in any bottle. if it soaks into your pants, just wring them out

[cursive summit]

What kind of soaking pant liquid are we talking about

[astral haven]

thats not exactly right, they use normal glass to the same extent as folding phones, just it can be slightly thicker than it is on the folding phones

the top layer is still plastic

[crisp granite]

https://tenor.com/view/jack-septic-eye-urine-drinking-drink-tea-gif-10463425

[empty wren]

Booo

[astral haven]

personally fine with the wraparounds tho, and those use glass since they dont have to change angle

[empty wren]

If it is possible to vary glass thickness then maybe they can do all front glass just would have to be very thin on the sides

[astral haven]

varying the thickness is possible, but doing it on top of the display is the hard part

[cursive summit]

Arden, remove this, this is nsfw!

[frozen ingot]

bruh

[smoky frigate]

yeah that was probably over the line, sorry

[astral haven]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PTpoj4f25dk
Aint it a beaut

[empty wren]

Ah okay

[reef patrol]

https://tenor.com/view/why-huh-but-why-gif-13199396

[cursive summit]

That was a joke

[empty wren]

Looks cool mansen does it not

[cursive summit]

I've been poking fun at Arden ever since he took down a joke

[smoky frigate]

I cast a reverse skill so the video is undone

[cursive summit]

Arden remove this! This is nsfw!!!

[empty wren]

I believe Arden is mansen today

[cursive summit]

He's a turtle so, no way

Turtles are mortal enemies of the avian ducks

[empty wren]

[final flame]

I look away for a few minutes, tf happened

[cursive summit]

Nothing

[final flame]

[empty wren]

Are you always standing near that corner?

[cursive summit]

Introverts be like that

[frozen ingot]

steals meme before it gone again

[final flame]

maybe

[cursive summit]

https://news.northwestern.edu/stories/2023/10/ai-just-got-100-fold-more-energy-efficient/?fj=1

Nice?

https://wccftech.com/exynos-xclipse-940-slower-than-the-snapdragon-8-gen-3-adreno-750-in-opencl-vulkan-tests/

There's still hope

[hasty thunder]

Hope?

[cursive summit]

That Exynos will be at least competitive with Snapdragon 8g3

[hasty thunder]

Samsung should finally face it. Their stupid Exynos chips are garbage

[cursive summit]

Why I guess I am coping is cause Samsung INSISTS that Europe always gets Exynos

So I am impacted with Exynos being shit

Well I don't buy Samsung anyways so whatever

[empty wren]

Importation is a choice

[hasty thunder]

i hate them for the decision to return to Exynos for us

[cursive summit]

Not bothering

Also Assmung did say that S24U will use 8g3 worldwide

Just the cheaper ones will have Exynos in some parts of the world

Obviously, Europe

Cause fuck you Assmung

[hasty thunder]

it is an option, but also not, because non-EU versions do not support the same bandwidths we use over here

[cursive summit]

But AMD is partnering for Exynos so I hope it succeeds

[woven laurel]

can you quit with this.

[cursive summit]

Bro is done with being poked fun at after just 2 times

[woven laurel]

exactly 😄

[reef patrol]

What'd that sweaty tryhard do now?

https://tenor.com/view/asmongold-nasty-gross-disgusted-ew-gif-26068989

[cursive summit]

What does Asmongold and Assmung have in co.. oh