🔌│tech

[warm night]

im not good at wording things am i

because that is definitely right

[smoky frigate]

who need grammer anyway

[warm night]

if they dont screw it up then its fine

👍

[cursive summit]

AYO https://vxtwitter.com/AnthropicAI/status/1709986949711200722

They managed to compose neurons into code?

Oh apparently I misinterpreted it, this is somewhat even bigger

This would essentially give us some ideas how to implement ways to figure out how an AI model works, how it came to conclusions and how can we manipulate the interim decision making to improve the models

Since for whatever reason, we don't know how they really work

https://www.notebookcheck.net/New-Snapdragon-8-Gen-3-benchmarks-indicate-massive-GPU-upgrades-and-a-solid-CPU-boost.758120.0.html

[old briar]

I heard that there's software out there that's going to emulate a pianokey press on the wooting?

going to make a virtual accelerometer for each key press to determine how loud a piano sound is?

[astral haven]

#🎹│analog_midi_feedback

[wheat plume]

Sad...only AAC

[smoky frigate]

AAC isn't bad at all, I dunno about android's implementation tho

[astral haven]

its not great compared to any of the other options tho

even base aptx is better

hd, ll, and adaptive as well as ofc ldac and ldhc all are better

[old briar]

thanks for the redirect, I wasn't aware

[astral haven]

👍 yea its prolly got alot of info to look at even if you dont have feedback to give right now

[old briar]

now I'm wondering if wooting's gonna make a mouse to pair with their bleeding-edge keyboard
one of the things I really enjoyed about Razer is the Hypershift integration (I can press Fn on the keyboard and the mouse goes into the alternate profile)

[ashen spindle]

probably not

[cursive summit]

https://techxplore.com/news/2023-10-neural-network-genomics-accurate.html

Speaking of

[smoky frigate]

in what regard? AAC becomes virtually transparent at around 160 kbit/s, but it's kinda demanding in terms of battery and not very fast

[astral haven]

virtually

switch back and forth and the difference is obvious

[smoky frigate]

not really

[astral haven]

lucky you

for many of us it is

i will say it matters less the worse the device is

for the high end tho like n300 and the headphones, its kinda important

[smoky frigate]

I'll take your word for it

[astral haven]

if you cant hear it, you dont need to worry about it

and for stuff like youtube its solid

[smoky frigate]

people can't often tell in ABX tests either

https://hydrogenaud.io/index.php/topic,120166.0.html

for reference

[astral haven]

yea the codec is better than lower bitrate stuff

now compare it to aptx adaptive or ldac

even ldac 330

(where ldac goes up to 990)

like sure if apple was stuffing aac320 over bluetooth that would probably be fine

[smoky frigate]

why even use lossy compression if you're gonna use bitrates that high

[astral haven]

because you need error correction for wireless

and its still significantly lower than raw

yea well opus in bluetooth when?

[smoky frigate]

open standards in hardware design? lol never

[astral haven]

youd be surprised it can happen

sbc is at least an open standard

[smoky frigate]

about listening tests: forgive me for being very skeptical of claims when every ABX test I find gives satisfactory results for AAC at a certain bitrate

[astral haven]

oh its satisfactory definetly

and its far better than sbc

[smoky frigate]

aka close to imperceptible

[astral haven]

but compare when its in bluetooth

it would be if it were running at 320

but its not

also keep in mind offline conversion vs realtime conversion is a very very different quality level

[smoky frigate]

okay, I can accept that

[tender totem]

https://www.amazon.com/PHILIPS-X2HR-Professional-Headphones-Detachable/dp/B01N5VHLUG
@fiery sleet @craggy iris

[astral haven]

its just like sbc too

sbc in theory is fantastic

incredible bitrate

96k

16 bit

but thats not how its implemented

its always 441 variable bit depth and under 100k

[smoky frigate]

afaik it depends on a lot of factors. if you throw enough bits at it, it should be transparent

[astral haven]

sure

but bluetooth doesnt allow that

[cursive summit]

https://vxtwitter.com/tomwarren/status/1710713307953291458

[cursive summit]

What kind of horrible pricing is that

I have heard of Fidelios and that they are alright

But pretty sure that there are far better headphones at that price

[smoky frigate]

I'm hearing good things about philips at that price point, but it's been a couple years since they released

[smoky frigate]

tbh I fucking hate bluetooth. not because of audio quality, it's just fiddly and meh overall

[astral haven]

KLEER
thats the name of the tech i wish would come back

kleer was fkn goated

literally just raw audio data with minor protocol overhead
could pair multiple headphones to the same transmitter

no compression, incredibly low latency thanks to skipping compression

all around awesome

[smoky frigate]

sadly, the best technology is often not the ubiquitous one

[astral haven]

only problem is it cant be integrated into bluetooth

and bluetooth has so many options

[cursive summit]

Uh, 2.4GHz is quite ubiquitous

[smoky frigate]

I have no idea what you mean with that non-sequitur lol

[cursive summit]

Nice term that doesn't make any sense

You did know that audio products can use the 2.4GHz band for wireless connectivity, have been using it and are very good at it?

[smoky frigate]

I have not been bitching about the frequency band, nothing wrong with it

[cursive summit]

Well you hate bluetooth, move to 2.4GHz

If you find the 3 odd products that actually use the band for wireless

[smoky frigate]

??? whatever you say boss

[astral haven]

bluetooth ofc is 2.4

as is kleer

the frequency is meaningless

[cursive summit]

https://en-us.sennheiser.com/digital-headphones-wireless-home-audio-over-ear-rs-185 Embrace senny

[old marlin]

bluetooth is also 2.4ghz

[astral haven]

and ofc vex links sennheisers absolute worst option in the category

[cursive summit]

Is it actually?

[old marlin]

yea

"2.4ghz" usually just means prorietary protocols

[cursive summit]

Could have sworn it was some sub-band judging with how shite the technology is

[astral haven]

https://www.cnet.com/reviews/sennheiser-rs-220-review/

[smoky frigate]

see, I used the term non-sequitur because what you said made no sense in the context you replied to

[cursive summit]

Well it's an "efficient" protocol so.. eh, it does its job

[old marlin]

bluetooth has a ton of bands

[cursive summit]

It makes perfect sense lad

[smoky frigate]

to you maybe

[cursive summit]

Don't like bluetooth, get sennheiser's wireless

[old marlin]

not sure if I would trust cnet on judging audio products

[cursive summit]

Pretty sure sennheiser's wireless is lossless or someshit like that, long range and else that bluetooth isn't

[old marlin]

sennheisers is an analog signal

[astral haven]

oh sure its about the product features, its been wiped from the internet for the most part

[astral haven]

it is now but it didnt used to be

[old marlin]

afaik the old rs ones also were

[astral haven]

the rs220 are kleer based with dsss on top to make them more resilient

[old marlin]

it's essentially just a radio

[smoky frigate]

what the hell lol

[astral haven]

the rs180 and rs220 are digital

[young pecan]

Great. Sennheiser making more trash. F

[smoky frigate]

that ought to be a disaster for people with identical pairs next to you

[astral haven]

as is the rs160?

[cursive summit]

This is an ancient product though

[young pecan]

From when?

[cursive summit]

Idk, 2010s?

Pretty old

Discontinued afaik

[young pecan]

For audio stuff? Lmao no.
Audio moves so slowly.

[old marlin]

high end low latency headphones are still a shitfest

[astral haven]

they have become a shitfest

they didnt used to be

[cursive summit]

Pretty sad that something as good as a Bathys only uses bluetooth

[old marlin]

Bathys?

[young pecan]

Can't get why you'd do wireless, tbh. I had decent wireless back in the day and they sounded like complete crap.

[astral haven]

the rs220 is fantastic, you can find whatever reviews you want that cover it, i just linked cnet for a feature list

[young pecan]

Didn't know it at the time but these days? Yike.

[old marlin]

ah

[cursive summit]

Focal's Bathys, some of the best wireless headphones on the market

To some the best

[astral haven]

if they sounded like crap, they definetly werent that good

[cursive summit]

And still bluetooth only wireless

[young pecan]

So C tier at best for headphones.

[old marlin]

bluetooth can be good nowadays

[cursive summit]

Has anyone made some pluggable-in adaptors for some lossless 2.4GHz connection to appliances like PCs or phones?

[astral haven]

aptx adaptive is incredibly good

[cursive summit]

Afaik DACs are still relying on bluetooth

[astral haven]

ldac 990 is also pretty solid

[young pecan]

You literally can't do lossless wireless streaming.

[astral haven]

kleer
look it up

[smoky frigate]

I'll believe it when I see it

[ashen spindle]

because I dont want a 150m long cable in the house to walk around

[young pecan]

The only actual lossless data you'll get is TCP and then you stream that over resistant backend.

[astral haven]

did aeon also mute me?

would make sense considering neither him nor vex want to be right

[young pecan]

I'm quite literally a systems admin and I'm studying for Kubernetes engineer, I have one of the most terminally indoor liftstyles possible, and even I'm not that attached to discord.

Just put the fucking mic down when you go take a shit.

[ashen spindle]

who says anything about discord

and my mic is a deskmic

[smoky frigate]

you can't do multiplayer battle shits with a wired headset

[young pecan]

See now that belongs in r/cursedcomments just like you.

[old marlin]

I know why that "can" is in italics

[old marlin]

you can't do lossless audio over usb or play it back via a pc at all

even lossless formats are only an approximations

[smoky frigate]

seems weird when 1X CD speeds are enough for lossless audio 😛

[astral haven]

different definitions of lossless

[lofty pivot]

the better bluetooth connections are honestly pretty decent these days. It’s not wired but it’s solid

[young pecan]

Not quite. It's possible to do with studio equipment with Mhz audio, but that's very much a case of niche.

Technically doable.

Nobody want a 4 minute song being 800MB.

[old marlin]

even then

an approximation

[ashen spindle]

https://www.cnet.com/reviews/sennheiser-rs-180-review/ no high end audiophile gear sure but going great for 7+ years for me, no bluetooth either and lossless

[old marlin]

you can store a single second analog recording to infinite fidelity

to infinte storage space

[coarse oxide]

Anyone have any advice? Nothing I do lets me reset my pc, keeps giving me the cannot reset error

[smoky frigate]

well but then analog is not lossless

[lofty pivot]

Been using a bluetooth dac/amp for iems when I’m moving about the house and it’s been quite a nice experience

[astral haven]

thanks to nyquist's laws you can know the signal is lossless with a certain amount of precision

[old marlin]

which you can reach wirelessly

no reason you couldn't

[astral haven]

yep

kleer is digitally lossless for example

its a shame it was proprietary

[ashen spindle]

also these topics always remind me of https://discuss.systems/@dan/110008052977994607

[smoky frigate]

definition of lossless I'm familiar with is bit-identical transmission

[astral haven]

yep and if you have digital data to begin with sure
audio is originally analog

[smoky frigate]

well but that's beside the point

[astral haven]

yep

[lofty pivot]

I had the rs170s for a long time too lol - they were great for just wireless listening back when Bluetooth wasn’t as good as it is nowadays

[ashen spindle]

I'm still fearing the day mine break and I dont know what to get now lmfao

[astral haven]

i bought an extra 2 rs220 for when mine die

[old marlin]

https://www.techpowerup.com/forums/threads/subtle-input-lag-both-mouse-and-keyboard-computer-just-feels-off.313965/#post-5116331

new r0ach content

[ashen spindle]

I'm just hoping whenever they die we have something thats at least as good, I have just about that much faith that a decade later new stuff is equal xD

[ashen spindle]

what the actual fuck

[astral haven]

i have no hope now considering its over 10 years now

[old marlin]

r0ach is peak schizo, banned in just about every community he shared his bs in

[lofty pivot]

I went full IEMs these days just because I found headphone hair annoying and I got tired of cleaning headphone pads constantly

[young pecan]

Never forgetti. I've had morons arguing about Linux being better for audio because the backend sound tech is better.

Bruh it's digital sound, if it's not absolutely fucked it's the same.

You find some fantastic idiots.

[smoky frigate]

Some casuals will claim this is voodoo, but I promise you it's not. If you have a combination modem and wifi router, all those billion settings on the router actually affect your mouse movement. Things like "readyshare" for media sharing and all the others. If you just want a single setting to test this theory, one of the more egregious ones is "Airtime Fairness." Toggle that on and off and you'll notice an immediate effect where having it on the cursor is slower. biggest brained post I have seen this year

[young pecan]

Nah that's not brain dead. It implies there was a brain there in the first place.

[smoky frigate]

the brain is fantastic at fooling itself, and with a solved problem like audio there are lots of imaginary issues to make up

[young pecan]

Has this energy. It never developed in the first place.

[young pecan]

Oh for sure. Like 99.99% of humans can't hear any better than what standard high grade audio will allow, but fuck me they aaaalllll hear a difference.

No you don't, stfu.

[astral haven]

Ausio isn't fully solved tho, we don't really have long range low latency low power all at the same time
You used to have none 20 years ago, 10 years ago we could pick 2, but still now you can't get all 3

[young pecan]

I'll allow it for analogue valve amps since those do change the sound, but you aren't hearing a difference in cable. That's mental damage.

[lofty pivot]

Audiophiles have the oddest people in their communities sometimes. They’ll just recommend products to each other that neither person has tried half the time

[astral haven]

*digital
Analog cables can change sound if they are actually driving the audio

[smoky frigate]

things that are technically noise, like analog audio equipment, can sound subjectively better yeah

[young pecan]

Siemens E88CC gray NOS ‘65 for me. I love that thing.

[smoky frigate]

true. lemme correct that to digital-to-analog conversion specifically then

[young pecan]

I wanted a ‘63 but I wasn’t about to double my price for it.

[smoky frigate]

what's cool about audio in linux is that the driver can expose some settings in the chip that you don't get on windows drivers, but that's kinda it

[young pecan]

More of a development and/or gimmick thing though.

Fun to watch.

[smoky frigate]

maybe. de-emphasis is a kooky feature to have, dunno what DAC filter does but I would guess it's the low-pass filter. I've never seen that able to be customized!

for somebody, somewhere, this has to be useful

[astral haven]

does the emphasis actually do anything?

[smoky frigate]

lemme see

[astral haven]

in spdif, emphasis is 3 bits of data that mostly just get ignored

oh no there are 3 data bits for different things, 1 of them is emphasis

[smoky frigate]

yeah, it does something. it's a holdover from 80s noise cancellation tech. it used to be called Dolby on tapes.

[astral haven]

it used to do something
do modern dacs still respect it?

mine doesnt at least

[smoky frigate]

if I enable de-emphasis on this chip, it reduces high frequencies, aka it's good if I'm listening to the Quake 1 CD music lol (that one has pre-emphasis)

[astral haven]

hunh

[smoky frigate]

I'm not aware of any other CDs that use it, for some reason Quake 1 had it

[astral haven]

yea when i feed my dac the emphasis bit from my src2496 it does nothing

[devout raptor]

what should I do with the dlss sharpening slider?

will maxing it just ruin how the game looks

[astral haven]

personal preference

[smoky frigate]

leave it off unless it looks blurry to you

[astral haven]

I think so, some like it tho

[smoky frigate]

so my sound card's de-emphasis is the old-school analogue type

(at least it simulates it)

[astral haven]

interesting

well my dac ignores it

might be implemented internally, but if i feed it the bit it doesnt do anything

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6vib77CUxNM
excuse me what

its not april????

[smoky frigate]

interesting, according to the manual it should be the same thing

[smoky frigate]

forgot to reply, I remember that debate, so bizarre

my favorite was a guy who swore he could tell CD rips apart based on the CD drive they were ripped with

[astral haven]

that may have once been true

different drives had different quality of error correction, throw a scratched disk in there and one may have issues where another is fine

especially with like the 50x readers or whatever

[smoky frigate]

mid-2000s were a dark time for CDs, I hated these overly fast drives

I had a CD crack in a 52x drive once

that your janky PS1 then couldn't read due to fast speed and cheap dyes used in CD-Rs lol

[young pecan]

Lads.

It happened.

https://snapshots.raintank.io/dashboard/snapshot/V2wFTJltc6GyXBcFjxNQI1E94Q89kPMv?orgId=2 Minecraft Folia running on an Epyc 9654, theoretical maximum of 3000 players in a minecraft server.

[smoky frigate]

Verbatim all the way for me, especially azo-coated disks

[young pecan]

The grafana logs are ridiculous.

171 players at 5% CPU.

1.21Gb/s inbound traffic to Folia.

This is not ok. This is devilish server backend.

Actually being able to justify needing load balanced proxies.

[smoky frigate]

holy based they are still making them!

[reef patrol]

People still use them.

[young pecan]

[pale sigil]

Going through my past orders

Still can't get over how good of a deal I got

[astral haven]

is it the same 7% or whats their turnover rate...

[steep creek]

Couple steps later,

[true quest]

the horni is what keeps us alive

for better or worse

[wheat plume]

They changed the battery saver indicator in Android 14
And I'm so happy

Before and After

The red outline they used to have was an overlay
It didn't fade away in Fullscreen like the battery icon and the rest of the icons did

So you'd see a faint red outline in Fullscreen

[pale sigil]

I hate the battery saver icon on 13

Oml

[wheat plume]

It's better now!

[crisp granite]

that honestly sounds like a fun way to spend a week

just trying to live like it's the mid to late 1800s again

[crisp granite]

@ashen spindle
deckard copium
meta connect event has come and gone, no news from valve...

[fickle ore]

Hm I wonder if anyone can help me. What's the correct device if I need my active speakers and headphones connected to my PC, liek something in between so that I dont need to always unplug/plug

Something with passthrough for the active speakers?

yeah sure, but I dont have the physical slots on my pc to connect both speakers and headphones

yeah im asking what kind of device is good for in-between

or an amp that has passthrough for active speakers

idk if it exists 😄

[fickle ore]

haha just looking for the cheapest possible solution

[digital cliff]

lots of headphone amps also have RCA out but I don't think they discriminate between the output

i.e. they'll send to the headphones as well as to the RCA

https://www.thomann.de/fi/analogiset_mikserit.html?oa=pra&gk=PAMIAM&cme=false&filter=true here some mixers sorted from cheapest, maybe you can figure out what you need

think something in the <100€ category will do

I almost got the behringer 302/502/802 at some point, think those are a solid pick depending on how many channels you need

they are very functional, not very pretty on your desk though

[fickle ore]

Thanks for the suggestion bud

My issue with my headphone amp before was that it was amping the active speakers so basically double amped and the hiss from speakers was soo loud

some kind of ground loop maybe

Im not sure if such a device exist that has RCA passthrough

Maybe the mixers do?

[digital cliff]

yeah headphone amps normally act as pre-amps for speakers if you wanna use em that way but a good one should not give a noticeable hiss

mixers basically just take inputs and send em to the output and you can control each input's volume in the mix from 0-100

sometimes they have more outputs as well

just gotta find a product that does the thing you want

[fickle ore]

this is 50% hebrew to me, so I take it this would fit my usecase the best?

[digital cliff]

what's your setup looking like now anyway?

[fickle ore]

PC 3.5 mm in splitter to 2 rca (speakers) and then I plug it off and switch 3.5 mm headphones when needed

and its too much hassle and im lazy

behind the pc, mobo slot 3.5 mm

[digital cliff]

in that case with no external dacs or amps in the chain, you could just get some cheap splitter that has a toggle I think

[fickle ore]

got a link? 🙂

[digital cliff]

https://www.amazon.com/audio-switch/s?k=audio+switch like any of these I guess

@thick elk I think uses one or used one

maybe he knows a cheap working one

[fickle ore]

thanks!

[ashen spindle]

https://fxtwitter.com/sadlyitsbradley/status/1708940055937478678

New things are happening but no date for anything currently

[frigid grove]

how are the wooting 60HE switches vs Romer-G switches

[reef patrol]

A completely different technology.

[wheat plume]

https://youtu.be/1SESZilkZN4

installing a battery to manually control the window motors cause the switches in the car broke

[vernal bridge]

anyone here tried crinacle zero iems for gaming? im considering getting them

[frigid grove]

they’re not comparable?

[reef patrol]

You can't compare two different things like that, I'd one can't be used in the other.

There are Linear "red" switches on both sides, and that's as close as a comparison gets.

[wheat plume]

🤔

battery health is back to 100% now

wtf

plasma be wack

it said 94% a few days ago

[halcyon moss]

It's a guesstimation at best

[wheat plume]

Ultramarine Linux uses Fluent theme by default 😍

its one of my favourite Linux themes, fuck yeah <3

normal person: uses a reasonable hostname
me: uses anime character names as hostnames

[vernal bridge]

just out of curiosity, do you play games on linux?

[wheat plume]

yes

I have Steam Deck, and my desktop also had Linux and Windows on it, dual booting from 2 SSDs

I also got emulation stuff installed on my SD card, so I can pop that in and play retro games

[vernal bridge]

i see, ive wanted to try going full only linux and virtualize win to play games but

i dont think i'll manage lmao

[wheat plume]

Careful, if you use a VM to play online multiplayer games like COD, BF and Fortnite etc etc, they may ban you for using a VM

[vernal bridge]

yeah its not easy, thats why im still on win10

but nothing can beat qtile imo

[wheat plume]

the only online FPS games I play are Splitgate and Apex Legends, those both work on Linux without problem

[vernal bridge]

so idk maybe ill try dual boot

[wheat plume]

and sometimes Ballistic Overkill or TF2

[wheat plume]

Dual booting is a major pain in the ass, windows tends to overwrite GRUB when it updates and you lose access to the Linux partition / drive unless you fix the issue .-.

and it sucks to fix the issue

[ashen spindle]

which appears to be an issue for you but nobody else who uses dualboot here I should add

[wheat plume]

also, you need to turn off Fast Startup in Windows Control Panel or else Linux may not be able to connec tto wifi or use Bluetooth

[warm night]

my hostname for some reason is always arch even if im not using arch at the moment

[wheat plume]

LOL

[warm night]

doesn't seem to happen like it used to, though its not that hard to recover

[wheat plume]

you yearn for the Arch

[warm night]

yep

i only feel at home on an arch based distro

[wheat plume]

yeh funny enough, it happens far less on Windows 11

[warm night]

probably because it was my intro to linux and what i used for the longest

[wheat plume]

My first distro was ZorinOS back when they used their own desktop
and I love it <3 such nice theme, pretty animations etc etc and rock solid ubuntu base

[warm night]

yea I've had windows 10 actually nuke itself

[wheat plume]

but now its just another Gnome distro ;-;

same!

[smoky frigate]

Proton-GE on steam works for more titles than it doesn't for me. gaming is almost pretty good now. I say almost, because some fiddling is still required

[warm night]

like not just kill the boot partition but take the entire windows root with it

[wheat plume]

o

[warm night]

like i booted into linux and the windows partition was just gone

was funny

[wheat plume]

yeah...

[warm night]

uninstalled itself for me

saved me a job

[smoky frigate]

that's windows 98 tier self destruction

[wheat plume]

LOL

[warm night]

real

thanks google assistant for reminding me that my phone bill is coming out tomorrow

didnt particularly wanna know I'm gonna be down £30 but good information

[vernal bridge]

i've heard that there are still issues with nvidia drivers tho

[wheat plume]

they are fine.... these days

[warm night]

on wayland yeah you'll struggle

[wheat plume]

Yeah, just use X11 and you will be fine

[warm night]

but its not like your computer is unusable and its completely garbage

[smoky frigate]

using an nvidia driver. it's never been all that terrible for me. performance in games is very good, very few glitches. desktop use is not quite so polished

[warm night]

youd rather use AMD, yeah, but nvidia is alright

in games you wont even know

[wheat plume]

They work fine if you use X11 and not WAyland

[warm night]

on the desktop AMD really does do better though

[wheat plume]

^

ye

AMD is better for Linux overall, even the drivers are baked into the kernel so no manual installation needed

On Nvidia, you need to install the drivers yourself

unless the distro gives you that option during OS install

[smoky frigate]

I need to digress there, AMD was always more of a mess on linux than it ought to be for me

[warm night]

hm?

interesting

[wheat plume]

odd

[warm night]

my laptop is AMD, though I've never gamed on it desktop use was perfect

[wheat plume]

I know Minecraft will run better on AMD than NVidia due to the Mesa drivers

[smoky frigate]

it would not support 360hz on linux, games tended to be glitchy

[warm night]

interesting

didnt know about that

[ashen spindle]

so essentially you didnt use the gpu xD?

[warm night]

well i mean everything on the desktop is still gpu accelerated

its not like the desktop environment is software rendered is it

on nvidia I'd get random bugs that just arent present using an amd gpu

[ashen spindle]

unless you do something weird it's not using the 3d render pipeline

[smoky frigate]

desktop environment is gpu accelerated (at least on gnome)

[warm night]

yup using gnome on the laptop

[wheat plume]

And Gnome 45 puts the cursor onto its own thread so it will remain mega smooth

[warm night]

tried gnome on the desktop and its just not very nice of an experience

(on nvidia)

[wheat plume]

Gnome is so good on laptops <3 especially if your touchpad can do multitouch gestures

[warm night]

ye

[ashen spindle]

Direct2D or whatever the vulkan equivalent would be would be used, your desktop isnt going to used D3D for rendering a text window

[smoky frigate]

works well for me. once a week it likes to throw an error and I need to log out, that's kinda it

[crimson wigeon]

Actually it does use GL or VK

[ashen spindle]

surely not the same 3d rendering pipeline though

you're not telling me notepads are rendering while using a depth buffer for shadows xD

[crimson wigeon]

Oh yeah probably most fancy crap is disabled becuse it's not needed

[wheat plume]

https://youtu.be/No_A22Mdxb0

[vernal bridge]

would nvidia work with 360hz tho xd

[smoky frigate]

works fucking perfect!

[ashen spindle]

will depend on what you use, multimonitor seems also still be an issue with high refresh rate

and amd works fine for a friend on linux where high fps isnt glitchy

so still not a one shoe fits all

[smoky frigate]

yeah I only use a single monitor. X11 is better for gaming, but it does only draw a single screen on multiple monitors, so there are issues associated with that

[wheat plume]

ooo tiny !!!

[ashen spindle]

god I hate descriptions like that

mention all the different specs aside from what it actually has as chip to power it

[wheat plume]

yeah cause you configure it

[ashen spindle]

that is not the u series in that config though?

[warm night]

yeah with a 144hz and 2 60hz displays the compositor in plasma is locked at 60

[pale sigil]

So fucking expensive

[wheat plume]

Yeah ;-;

same on Gnome

[warm night]

though I found a way to force it at 144, results in screen tearing on the other 2 but I can live with it

if i go down to 120hz it's fine though since 60 goes in

[smoky frigate]

I remember fixing it once, I can look up the env variables that I set

[warm night]

yea i set some

took me so long to find them online

so i have them stored in multiple different places

so i dont ever lose it

because i cant deal with the compositor at 60hz for some reason

[smoky frigate]

understandable, since I have a 360hz screen, 60 looks like liquid shit to me

[warm night]

same but on 144

though im thinking of sidegrading to a 120hz or something 1440p panel

well ig upgrade

[ashen spindle]

just upgrade the second screens to match hz ez

[smoky frigate]

actually, try forcing TearFree using xorg.conf

[warm night]

hm

might try

[wheat plume]

Why do all the Tuxedo portable laptops have Intel CPUs? ;-; only their gaming ones have options for AMD

[thick elk]

Just lowered my idle power consumption by roughly 20w Before I had issues with it on plasma but now it works fine after forcing a software cursor.
Plugging in 2 of my monitors on my igp.
Decreased the idle power by 40w or so on the gpu at the cost of 20w of power consumed by the igp.

Let's see if there are more issues, but so far seems to work fine.

[ashen spindle]

would there be a amd cpu that would offer the same?

[wheat plume]

Would any USB C to HDMI work on my laptop?

I tried using the Steam Deck dock but it didnt work

[thick elk]

Then probably no

[smoky frigate]

File: /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/20-amdgpu.conf

   Identifier  "AMD Graphics"
   Driver      "amdgpu"
   Option      "TearFree"  "true"
EndSection``` this is likely to fix all your outstanding tearing issues, awesome setting

[warm night]

amd

would be great if i had amd on my desktop xd

[smoky frigate]

oh woops! then you are FUCKED

[pale sigil]

https://tenor.com/view/linus-nvidia-fuck-you-nvidia-linux-linus-torvalds-gif-5267420752109892596

I feel ya buddy

[warm night]

gonna upgrade to amd eventually so ill try remember xd

[thick elk]

There are older types of usb to hdmi dapters that actually run over usb those may work but most usb-c display adapters work the same and if the decks' dock does not work, neither would any other one.

[smoky frigate]

(I don't actually know, I just haven't tackled multi-monitor on nvidia yet)

[warm night]

having mild tearing on the secondary monitors isnt really a problem for me

[wheat plume]

forceCompositePipeline in the nvidia control center app

you check both boxes

and reboot

[warm night]

or i can go down 14hz and just get 120hz on the main

24 even i can do math

probably wont even tell a difference

[thick elk]

I used multi monitor just fine on Nvidia, tearing can also be fixed on xorg, the only thing that does not work is adaptive sync on multiple monitors under xorg or actually having a usable system using kde plasma under wayland.

[wheat plume]

oh, if I use it for Display Out, I wont be able to charge it at the same time

[halcyon moss]

I'd rather be on xorg at tbh

[smoky frigate]

1. In NVIDIA XServer Settings, disable OpenGL flipping, then set ForceCompositionPipeline=On for both displays (Display Configuration -> Advanced... will need to save to X.org configuration file).
2. Put the following in /etc/environment (144000 = 144 Hz, adjust accordingly to the highest refresh rate between your monitors):

KWIN_X11_REFRESH_RATE=144000
KWIN_X11_NO_SYNC_TO_VBLANK=1

This results in perfectly smooth, tear-free animation on the high refresh rate display, and lower framerate, still tear-free animation on the other display. Note that I am leaving out the "KWIN_X11_FORCE_SOFTWARE_VSYNC=1" setting, as adding it results in dropped frames.

Thanks to the kwin developers for making these options available!``` I remembered this post on the KDE bug report page, try this

[warm night]

yeah thats what im using

to get the compositor to run at the correct fps

[wheat plume]

Wayland FTW but Nvidia drivers are slowing its development WAYYYYYY down ;-;

They must make janky workarounds to get Nvidia working on it

[warm night]

still get like, micro tearing on the other monitors

[halcyon moss]

Better scaling

[smoky frigate]

I think wayland sux overall, I enjoy staying on x11

[thick elk]

Okay good luck having adaptive sync working on multi monitor setups

good luck having hdr in the future

[smoky frigate]

I don't use adaptive sync or HDR

[wheat plume]

still strange that Valve choose to use X11 for Desktop Mode, despite game mode being Wayland

[warm night]

hdr doesnt even do much yet does it

or 10 bit colour stuff

apparently steam just doesnt work with that

[wheat plume]

Steam Deck can do HDR if connected to a HDR Display

[smoky frigate]

kwin isn't that good with wayland yet, probably for stability reasons

[warm night]

hm interesting

i think with plasma 6 theyre putting a lot into Wayland

[wheat plume]

They have support within GameScope compositor for HDR

[thick elk]

I mean Wayland is simply the way to go, yes it takes a damn long time to be there for every usecase. But Xorg just lays to rot right now.

[warm night]

xorg is gonna be very much still used until nvidia gets their shit in order with Wayland

[wheat plume]

^

[warm night]

but we should really be pushing Wayland as much as reasonably possible, best way its gonna improve is to make xorg no longer an option

I think fedora are thinking about dropping x11?

[smoky frigate]

as a user, I don't profit from using wayland yet. I can't even disable vsync on it. fuck this noise

[warm night]

yeah that's fair

[thick elk]

From what I heard it works fine in Hyprland according to my brother.
Of course you will not have overclocking or certain config options.

I personally don't mind the current situation, for desktop use vsync is not bad to have and adaptive sync is a thing.

Not saying everyone should switch right now but the time will come.

[smoky frigate]

it's probably going to be good when I do. currently, I prefer x

[wheat plume]

Plasma does not like it when you try to set a 75MB large image as wallpaper....

OOPS

[thick elk]

Thing is there are far to few people actually writing good bug reports so trying it from time to time, reporting / upvoting the bugs you encounter helps the transition later on.

[warm night]

yeah

[warm night]

pretty big image

my wallpaper is just black

[wheat plume]

worth it though

[warm night]

im too uncreative

to find someone i like

or indecisive even

[thick elk]

I personally would only use one I made myself, but now I just lazily follow the default one for plasma every update

[smoky frigate]

I have this random russian building as my wallpaper, I just really like the photo

[thick elk]

just with Plasma 6 taking longer I am getting bored of that mountain.

[crimson wigeon]

Wayland vsync off has been a thing I've had for years since it was a hard requirement for me

[thick elk]

Also something that is possible under wayland or will be soon for everyone that does not use Gnome.

[smoky frigate]

I heard KDE can disable it, but not gnome

[thick elk]

wdroots also allows it, were the first to do it.

Really just a Gnome issue more than anything at this point.

[smoky frigate]

as usual lol!

[crimson wigeon]

Yeah I should probably pull that into my branch now, too lazy though since it means having to deal with merge conflicts..

[thick elk]

On higher refresh rate monitors adaptive sync + vsync is fine mostly.

For me at least.

That is my use case for my main monitors

[reef patrol]

[old marlin]

lol

[thick elk]

Though at the current market value not that extreme a win.

[royal snow]

any1 else have an issue where if you're using a sensitive profile the keyboard sometimes bugs out and begins to stop registering keys

idk if its cable or what

switching profiles just bugs it out

[smoky frigate]

bretty fucking good

[wheat plume]

https://youtu.be/gdfqvCcpciI

[vocal quest]

tf

[wheat plume]

oo hek, thats cool
GHub has a feature to copy over the speed and sensitivity and shit from another logitech mouse to another one

so if you got the previous mouse tuned perfectly, and you get a new one, it lets you transfer over the exact same settings and it will feel the same

[old marlin]

most people that will use a superlight 2 will prob just set a single dpi step

[wheat plume]

I have only one DPI setting too cause i get headaches if my mouse speed changes

[serene sail]

How do I figure out my batch?

[wheat plume]

in the Wooting Hub :D

[serene sail]

Thanks a ton

[wheat plume]

If you link your Discord on the My Rewards Page, you will get the batch role in this server and get pinged when there are any updates

[cursive summit]

https://chipsandcheese.com/2023/10/08/zen-5s-leaked-slides/

I HIGHLY doubt these slides are real

And why are they getting so much publicity come on

[ashen spindle]

they are real

[cursive summit]

Source?

[ashen spindle]

its perfectly adding up to what people said about things?

[smoky frigate]

sure looks like a presentation slide of something somebody's planning to make

[ashen spindle]

its some server slides with stuff focused on whatever that presentation needed to show in regards to turin

[thick elk]

Also generally chips and cheese is a good source.

Not sure if they are real / up-to-date but they are plausible.

[ashen spindle]

its clam extrapolating from a slide that mlid first showed but people know the slides are real/plausible

[devout raptor]

yukiaim released a keyboard

it has gateron crimsons

[hasty thunder]

@stray hazel

[stray hazel]

That's a nice PC

[hasty thunder]

slapped some Fractal Design Prisma AL-12's onto my LF2 360 and called it a day

[stray hazel]

That's mine sadly

Imo mine looks bad

[crisp granite]

Too much RGB

[stray hazel]

Ehh not really corsair fans would of been worse imo

[reef patrol]

But they're so pretty

[stray hazel]

Yes

[reef patrol]

[stray hazel]

They are I agree. Just the cables are a whole other story. But corsairs newest lineup are nice

[reef patrol]

That being said I will definitely swap out my QL fans as they die. Those RGB fan covers seem to be the best compromise for RGB and efficient fans.

Then I can ignore the RGB aspect and grab high performance fans that are ugly 😄

[stray hazel]

I have a 3070 ti... sad 3070 ti noises playing resident evil 4 remake

[final flame]

Everyone gets tired of rgb eventually
at one point I just changed it to white
and eventually just turned it all off

[stray hazel]

Yeah, that's true that's why I went less rgb instead all rgb fans

[final flame]

My next build I'm just going to use Silentwing 4s for all of my fans

[woven laurel]

other fans than noctua is a no

[gusty kiln]

phantek T30 are the top dogs

same

I'm hoping for more mesh side panels

like the Fractal North

[final flame]

I like tempered glass when It's done right

[gusty kiln]

or some open test bench

[stray hazel]

I forgot about the phanteks fans

[final flame]

Test benches ironically aren't as good for cooling components that need airflow, like ram and ssds

[frozen ingot]

det finns ingen räddning

[sharp badger]

Kan inte hjälpa denna gång

[frozen ingot]

kom tillbaka senare

[wheat plume]

Ooo
When you plug in the charger this bubble apprears around the battery icon for a few seconds
Very neat

[frozen ingot]

I wish I was that easily impressed

[vagrant pagoda]

i have a 3.0 5.25 with 10 ports lol

it has 2 hubs inside

takes a pcie 6 pin for power

[wheat plume]

Im just glad Google are doing more to add more hints of Material You into the OS

and this is agreat indicator to let you know it started to charge

cause before it didnt have anything othe than the symbol inside the battery

[empty wren]

On stock Android without wireless charging*

[wheat plume]

ye

[empty wren]

Wireless charging has its own animation which will show the battery percentage

[smoky frigate]

I'm finding a cheap outdoors 5G router that looks like something from a retro FPS

[crisp granite]

That looks like the optional upgrade for the propeller cap so you can control the weather

[cursive summit]

But does it walk?

[smoky frigate]

pretty sure that it would find its own spot if I let it loose on the roof

[ashen spindle]

zen4x3d and zen3x3d doing the same fps makes me think they forgot to remove the fps cap

[wheat plume]

Final game layout for my desktop 💜💜

I love this so much

[misty saffron]

yeah tell us the same thing in a week

[wheat plume]

LOL

[thick elk]

Global menu's in kde were not great last I used it, at least not multi-monitor

[wheat plume]

it doesnt show the menu bar for apps on the second screen

unless you also have a global menu on that screen

Im just glad there are widgets out there to add the app name and window buttons to the panel also

I have the titlebar remover itself when maximised and the buttons move to the panel

[thick elk]

It also doesn't work on every program

[wheat plume]

cough cough Firefox

[thick elk]

Actually there is a firefox version on the AUR that does work with that

[wheat plume]

yeh but its out dated

.-.

[thick elk]

goes to show it has been a while since I last tried one.

But most of all I personally found little need for it. sure it has it's niceties but end of the day nothing major.

I now just have a task manager on every monitor showing the windows open on that monitor.

[wheat plume]

I just like global menu cause it gives you more room in the app window itself for the app

and in-app menu bars look so bad

even a lot of windows apps just shove them into the titlebar itself to save space, mainly IDEs and whatnot

[thick elk]

I am running 27inch 1440p monitors I have enough space. and with the drwabacks meh not great.

[young pecan]

ETA 4 days before she says it’s an outdated piece of shit.

Honestly I’d be interested to know how much you actually get done in between redesigning the Linux layout and tooling seemingly multiple times a week indefinitely.

[wheat plume]

nah this is my endgame

no more layout changes

[young pecan]

Uhuh.

https://tenor.com/view/doubt-press-x-la-noire-meme-x-button-gif-19259237

What’s it been? 2 years of this? I honestly don’t believe there is an end.

[wheat plume]

https://youtu.be/-sSZT9KK7yE

The fact it works with google pay is neat

[rough osprey]

https://www.alphacool.com/de/apex-stealth-metal-fan

finally preoder

actually cheaper then i expected

[steep creek]

I almost forgot cat makes phones, I mainly associate them with making excavators and such lol

[shadow minnow]

Very fair price. Alphacool usually has fair prices. The specs are very impressive if true, may consider getting these

[wheat plume]

https://youtu.be/dxJOg7PoQbY

Sets would be so so so so nice on phone

and then have drag and drop between apps in the set

[hasty thunder]

they actually really forgot about it

[austere dirge]

how make green 💢

[ashen spindle]

yeah saw it

[austere dirge]

i have the uwu ting tho

ohh

so i unplug my other kb first?

[hasty thunder]

actually plug your 60HE/2HE in first, then the UwU. Wootility will recognize the last plugged in device

[dusk portal]

Wrong channel

I connected it

[austere dirge]

holdon im cooking

my pc making lots of noises

[dusk portal]

When does the uwus ship

The 9th?

[austere dirge]

tyvm big man

[young pecan]

https://shop.alphacool.com/en/AtsdCustomCategories/index/type/productstream/ps/58 Ngl tho that's not bad at all.

[raw zephyr]

such as?

[fair gull]

blocking youtube.com

[halcyon moss]

no more training videos

[severe phoenix]

https://www.igorslab.de/en/alphacool-apex-stealth-metal-power-fan-in-an-exclusive-review/5/

[old marlin]

exclusive review

no bias to be had

[severe phoenix]

I mean the facts are all there

These arew a gigantic step in in fan quality

Like for the first time in a decade

Others are posting results shortly too

[umbral heron]

+123% CFM
3x power usage
Yeah, it checks out
Still, €30 for a fan? Pass...

[severe phoenix]

Eh if you go Noctua that's not too wild, a lot of people will easily go for these

[old marlin]

basically yea

but I would wait for non-exclusive reviews

[severe phoenix]

These are gigantic air flow upgrades

Not only are they much faster, they are also much quieter

[mild dome]

The reduction in noise is a compelling enough reason to pay extra

[severe phoenix]

db reduction is huge, and the static pressure increase is legit insane

For radiatiors these are gamechangers basically

Noctua need to step it up

[old marlin]

https://www.logitechg.com/en-us/products/gaming-mice/g502-x-plus-millennium-falcon-wireless-mouse.910-007143.html

[shadow minnow]

Also the static pressure is very high

In fairness to noctua they seem to consume much more power

So they’re not really power efficient just can utilize more power

I am certainly thinking of ordering one to test but I don’t get to use my pc enough to order them for it

I wish they used maglev

[warm night]

they are indeed cool

the blue is pretty

on the left

[old marlin]

still a titanium coating tho

or PVD ig

[shadow minnow]

I like blu

[old marlin]

it's not just blue

different geometry will get different colors

[warm night]

oh its that thing

well

i still like the blue

[shadow minnow]

I mean most of it is blue and screw holes will well most likely have screws in them unless you save time by not using all screws

[latent mural]

lol the software is built with tauri, thats pretty cool.

[warm night]

me when rust

🚀

[shadow minnow]

~~Don’t think rust would be very beneficial for all metal fans ~~

[warm night]

true

[old marlin]

Can't rust

[shadow minnow]

That’s a nice statement I can’t trust

[old marlin]

the metal they use can't rust lol

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zamak

[cursive summit]

https://www.techspot.com/news/100416-asus-shares-rog-swift-pro-pg248qp-monitor-specs.html

[raw zephyr]

yes indeed it has already been launched in china

[umbral heron]

owo? This is gonna be fun https://www.phoronix.com/news/GNOME-MR-Drop-X11-Session

[cursive summit]

X.org?

Tf does any of that mean

[fair gull]

x11 is one of the most widely used desktop things for linux

theres prob 2million other ones that no one has ever heard of

and 2 or 3 more popular other ones that some people have heard of

the usual linux stuff

[cursive summit]

So, what's x11

Like, Internet Explorer 11?

[fair gull]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/X_Window_System

[cursive summit]

Ah

So why remove it

Too old? Better options available?

[fair gull]

its 40? years now

[cursive summit]

Linux is 40 years old?

[fair gull]

the main issue i see is that this basically goes against the whole linux idea

i dont see a reason to remove x11 compatibility

if its removed someone will fork gnome before the removal and backport everything

and then we get yet another DE

[umbral heron]

Linux is 30 years old, but X was made for Unix-likes, and Linux is a Unix-like

[fair gull]

its why usually people say *nix

[umbral heron]

Nah, it's more likely there will be a x11-compatibility package required for basically everything unless you're going pure wayland, which... you're most likely not
They could keep x11, it looks like progress for the sake of progress

A lot of apps still use xwayland extensively, so...

[woven laurel]

https://tenor.com/view/game-boy-pokemon-viridian-forest-random-encounter-pokemon-red-gif-23083557

tony engages with linux user

[fair gull]

well the issue i have is that linux as its base is a nice idea like most unix style OSs but they splintered ecosystem AND that a lot of users are quite elitist is just annoying

[umbral heron]

Oh yeah
Ask someone about a weird issue and most of the time you'll get "figure it out by yourself" as an answer
But try to explain someone some Linux stuff in light and not-very-complicated-way they'll flock like seagulls, that's wrong, thata wrong, imagining convoluted situation they've only encountered

[fair gull]

like id switch to linux if googling for issues would be easier, the OOBE would be better and the general ecosystem would be made for general users and not people who want to constantly tinker with their OS so it keeps working as it should

theres still a good chunk of audio and video issues on linux

[umbral heron]

For audio issues I have solution that hasn't failed not once for 2 years I'm on linux - install pipewire, if it's not working switch to pulseaudio
And for video mpv does everything
I do constantly tinker with my installations, but it's mostly to figure out easier solutions than there are available on Internet

[fair gull]

more in the editing sense i mean

like mixing audio, video streaming and muxing

[umbral heron]

Oh, for video KDenLive or DaVinci, for audio the most I've used is Audacity and FL Studio
It's clunky, but it works™

Fun fact though - I decided to go with UwU mostly because I saw wootility is available on Linux (unlike most of gaming peripherals software), you have proper support page and all, probably wouldn't preorder if not that

[digital cliff]

yeah this'll never happen

linux will forever stay fragmented and because of that, marginalized

USUALLY though if you manage to set things up the way you want once, they don't break but yeah, occasionally stuff does and it's a goosechase to figure it out

just wanted to game and I end up on 2h bugfixing mission

[fair gull]

its sort of a chicken and egg situation

linux users want linux to be THE main desktop os but they dont want this whole unification etc on the otherhand either

[digital cliff]

true

if the options were linux is popular but only comes in one flavor or linux is marginal but I can make it the way I want then it's the latter for me

[crimson wigeon]

Makes sense to me, drop the legacy x.org session so it no longer has to be thought about. Xwayland is not going anywhere anytime soon so no need to worry about legacy support

[umbral heron]

One thing that became more standardized, systemd, has split community most probably the most
For one I'd actually be happy for single linux specification
But oh well, closest thing that we have to that is enterprise linux I guess

[digital cliff]

nah it's just normal people and then the systemd-hater contrarians

i.e. vocal minority hating on it

[umbral heron]

fwiw I'd prefer for systemd to be more separated, aka having systemd-mount, systemd-resolve, systemd-timesync etc. apart from each other, so you could pick and choose for common systemd base and other solutions
But yeah, I don't really mind systemd, it works, it does its job well, no problems with configuration or logging, I'm good
It wasn't meant for people who are using distros which use systemd after all

[fair gull]

funny that the minority has a minority

[halcyon moss]

with pop os i found out that not every distro uses grub 😄

[fair gull]

grubhub?

[halcyon moss]

systemd-boot

[fair gull]

systemd-butt

[umbral heron]

Not kernelstub?

[wheat plume]

Solus doesn't either :')

I also learned the hard way for that one

[cursive summit]

https://videocardz.com/newz/amd-introduces-system-lag-metric-in-the-latest-preview-drivers-works-on-rdna3-gpus

[latent mural]

it's not lol

[paper nymph]

can someone explain me what detects the input on a lekker switch#

[ashen spindle]

a sensor that measures how far a magnet in the switch is away

[cursive summit]

A hall effect sensor? Realistically

[umbral heron]

magnet on switch and magnetic field sensor on pcb

[paper nymph]

okay thanks

[reef patrol]

Basically a magnetic sensor constantly measures the magnetic field above it.

The switch will send out magnetism even when idle, so that becomes the "0 push state" when calibrated. As the switch is pushed down, the field gets stronger, and the firmware knows how much from 0 to 100 that is.

[cursive summit]

Real chads would do a drinking game whenever the switch would ever report 0

[pale sigil]

It is

[novel walrus]

i hope wooting releases a mouse to compete with the logitech superlight pro x, one day

[cursive summit]

Wooting has no interest in the mouse market

[novel walrus]

i know, just a hope and a glimmer in my eye dream

wooting has been the best keyboard i've ever had going on a year now

[rough osprey]

what stuff do you need

or what do you not like about the sl

[cursive summit]

Are you an engineer by any chance?

[novel walrus]

unfortunately not, i was just watching optimumtech make a mouse, and i just was dreaming you know

[cursive summit]

Wooting is very much hiring, if you have any cool ideas for a revolutionary new concept in the mouse market like the rapid trigger is in keyboard market, and you propose prototypes to the company

You very much can be hired and make it happen

[novel walrus]

yeah im wondering how much can they innovate on a mouse, not like you can do rapid trigger or tachyon on a mouse

[rough osprey]

make m1 and m2 knobs 😜

[cursive summit]

You really can't

Mouses are kind of at the best state they can logically be I reckon

[rough osprey]

ye just slow improvements

[cursive summit]

As far as mediums for interacting with electronics go, I think the next big step is very much direct cognitive control

"Mind commands"

But that's way way way beyond Wooting's capabilities

[novel walrus]

i just hope for a TKL or 75% wooting keyboard in the near future at this point.

VR/AR is the next step forward

it has to get light enough and less "sweaty" to become a mainstay, even then people don't like things on their heads for extended periods of time

but that's a ways off

[latent mural]

U pay customs, a lot of fucking customs.

[pale sigil]

Did you not read the conversation.

It's in regards to Discord icons.

[latent mural]

oh my bad

[hasty thunder]

@pale sigil Well, since we're also selling custom made HEDTs we'd want to serve our customers the best peripherals out there, that would include the option to choose a Wooting keyboard

therefore my company has some plans to do so, but it all comes down to Calder at the end

[coarse cloak]

sounds like would be a good 🤝 deal

[hasty thunder]

for some reason we're gaining popularity among a niche community

well, for now it's just plans and shit

we don't really know if we should go the next step

nor do we know if Wooting would be able to handle it since they're already at their max capacity of production and orders

So even if Calder would agree to it, chances are that batches would be pushed further into the future for everyone

[coarse cloak]

yeah the demand they got is huge right now
maybe with an extra warehouse 🤔

[hasty thunder]

the whole rats tail too. Shipments, manufacturing, etc.

[coarse cloak]

yep

could be tough but possible nonetheless

gotta know what else they're currently dealing with

[hasty thunder]

other than that we'd have to ask customers if they'd like to have that option to begin with

if it's not wished we won't pursue it

[coarse cloak]

[hasty thunder]

but truth be told? Our first 500 surveys came in today and we had a 80% positive answer to that

So there is a demand for it to deliver a Wooting Keyboard included

[coarse cloak]

good initial data

[hasty thunder]

it's just insane how mouth propaganda's spread. The customers especially like the idea of grabbing their keyboard, go with it wherever they want and not bother with reconfiguring or downloading anything

plug in and be 100% efficient, anywhere, anytime

[lethal lily]

Ok this isn’t about any wooting products but a mate of mine just upgraded from a crappy pc to a decently high end one and after 3 days playing on has suddenly been banned from any game he plays, no explanation nothing just straight banned for no reason, no cheats or anything either. Any idea about fix?

[ashen spindle]

yea stop cheating or whatever it is that causes it

what games are the bans on

[lethal lily]

Apex and rainbow. He isn’t using cheats or anything like that he just randomly got banned. I think it might be a hardware issue but don’t know

[ashen spindle]

if he got a pc from someone who got hardware banned on those games maybe xD

[lethal lily]

No brand new parts and he tried booting up his old pc and was banned on that as well

[ashen spindle]

idk sounds like he might not be honest then

[lethal lily]

That was my first though as well but he showed me all his files almost nothing on and definitely no cheats

[ashen spindle]

the chance its some random accidental ban or something is way too low

can happen sure but nothing anyone could fix beside him writing to support and them finding it out

[lethal lily]

Yeah I know, thought I’d ask around and see if anyone had any ideas. Thanks though

[ashen spindle]

99% chance it was cheats

[coarse cloak]

🤔

[lethal lily]

Possibly but I’m like 99% sure it isn’t

[pale sigil]

False flags do happen but that doesn't sound like one

[lethal lily]

Both games he tried were on steam so probably a issue with his account rather than his pc

[pale sigil]

So so vac ban

[ashen spindle]

Not really neither of them check for steam info as it’s EA and Ubisoft games

[coarse cloak]

VAC bans affects apex and rainbow?

[pale sigil]

Apex is on steam but idk

Sonos siege right

[coarse cloak]

yea six siege is

[ashen spindle]

Still launches uplay so just as an overlay kinda

[lethal lily]

Tbh it could be cheats but I doubt it. Thanks though

[pale sigil]

Idk

Probably is sorry

[lethal lily]

It’s not me so I’m not to fussed

[pale sigil]

Friends try to lie out of shame

[lethal lily]

True

[pale sigil]

When it digs a hole more

I got my friend to admit his ban once and I told him it's better to be honest and he was and doesn't hide it anymore

People do stupid shit

[coarse cloak]

cheating on both six siege and apex sounds like a money waste

[lethal lily]

Agreed though apex’s anti cheat is terrible. Honestly the amount of hackers you run into is unbelievable

[wheat plume]

LOL they use Epic Anticheat

the one Fortnite uses

[ashen spindle]

you mean easy anti cheat?

[wheat plume]

yes

[reef patrol]

Easy Anti Cheat. Easy stands for how easy it is to get past.

[ashen spindle]

none of them really work great

[pale sigil]

Gotta use spyware if you want to be effective

[coarse cloak]

games need to be more like dota 2, any cheating you can do there is so soft that it's close to irrelevant

only cheat ive seen lately is one where you have an indicator to know if you're being seen by the enemy team (if there's a ward or if you're in vision)

[ashen spindle]

I rather jump off a cliff (in game) than have more games be like dota lmfao

[coarse cloak]

i miss old dota, dunno how 2 plays now in 2023

[pale sigil]

I miss when games were good

[coarse cloak]

same

[ashen spindle]

yeah I miss when it was 2023

[pale sigil]

Here comes quin

With hippie indie games

[ashen spindle]

bg3 is indie?

ffxvi is indie?

[coarse cloak]

bg3 made my year better

never played final fantasy tho

[cursive summit]

By no definition is that game indie

[coarse cloak]

ngl some indie games though

are lovely

[reef patrol]

I'd say Larian are right in the middle. A non AAA backed studio that managed to punch way above their weight without any major release scandals.

[ashen spindle]

AA is far away from indie still

[coarse cloak]

ive played more hours of indie than AAA, ive finished like 6 or 7 indie games and only 1 or 2 AAA in my life

[reef patrol]

Even indie is on a curve.

[cursive summit]

Larian has about the same number of employees as BGS

[reef patrol]

Is indie merely self publishing? Is it a certain amount of staff?

There is no hard rule, only a lot of opinions.

[cursive summit]

So it's an established AAA studio

I think what dictates game quality is game size and studio quality

[coarse cloak]

so if it's not an individual or small team it can't be called indie (?)

[cursive summit]

Bethesda is about same size as Larian, maybe smaller

They are easily both to be considered AAA

[reef patrol]

Bethesda is a daughter company though.

[cursive summit]

BGS is the game studio

[astral haven]

unless its related to racing in indiana ofc

[coarse cloak]

[dark trench]

Heyyy , would someone be nice enough to explain to me quickly if the Woothing two is easily moddable ? like changing the case and the key caps ? i know nothing about custom keyboards... Thanks.

[coarse cloak]

case not, keycaps yes

there is no current standard for full size cases

[dark trench]

thank you very much

What should i be looking for to change keycaps ?

is there a reference ?

[cursive summit]

That is a lot of 14th gen chips

A lot of repackaging of 13th gen

[ashen spindle]

same as any gen really

[halcyon moss]

What's a t variant?

[ashen spindle]

low power limit

so oem skus for embedded or such

[wheat plume]

https://www.androidpolice.com/android-14-ultra-hdr-hands-on/

Ultra HDR on Pixel 8!

[cursive summit]

So a dark filter for added crispyness?

[wheat plume]

No

[young pecan]

Generally speaking 25 people or under is indie.

Not really sure when you go from Indie to AAA, there’s never been a clear cut definition.

[wheat plume]

HOW THE FUCK DO I USE VISUAL PARADIGM???

this shit is complicated

[true quest]

let's go

[coarse cloak]

LOL

noway

[astral haven]

eventually it will come for us all

[young pecan]

This is just a Kanban/Scrum tool, yeh?

[wheat plume]

yes but it also can do SQL and UML Charts and every fucking chart ever spawned by man

and idk how tf to use any of it

[young pecan]

What's it's pricing model?

[wheat plume]

30 day free trial

or activated by business / academic server

idk the pricing for that

[young pecan]

Ah so not FOSS.

Unfortunate.

[wheat plume]

nope not at all

Their installer on Linux is very easy though, I was impressed how easy to install it was

[young pecan]

I mean what exactly can this do?

[wheat plume]

Yes

idk shit cause idk how tf to use it :/

but like 95% of the UI is covered in options and toggles and lists of shit to do

its very overwhelming

[young pecan]

Oh it's basically just Notion mixed with GitOps and a few GUIs.

Eh.

[wheat plume]

is there easier to use software to make UML charts?

cause I wanna know

this is painful to use

[young pecan]

Like...

Just a visual representation of shit in a system?

[wheat plume]

yeh classes and dependencies and wahtnot

and also not for code

[young pecan]

LucidCharts.

Maybe a bit more manual work, but it'd do it.

[hasty thunder]

luckily my ReVanced App is still fine

[young pecan]

Astah as well, maybe.

[wheat plume]

oh rip, maybe someone in the AUR packaged it

[wheat plume]

gimme da samus emote plz

[ashen spindle]

just use one of the dozen options running in the web

[wheat plume]

LucidCharts looks easy to use, got to make an account to even just demo it ;-;

[ashen spindle]

so make an account?

[hasty thunder]

check DMs

[young pecan]

Can confirm Lucid is pretty nice to use.

Very friendly.

[thick elk]

Yea probably have to work around that one soon.
They stopped Premium Lite in the Netherlands only to introduce it in Germany.
Not gonna get full premium under those circumstances in the next 12 months, most certainly not going to use Youtube without an adblocker either.

[true quest]

https://tenor.com/view/texas-sandy-spongebob-gif-5336432

[gusty kiln]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l8qEVdLjHOs

[crisp granite]

ugh

I want to get the Zeromouse kit...but I fucking hate these stupid "drops"

I hope Optimum tech just posts the files after the fact

[warm night]

isn't that optimum's 3d printed thing

[crisp granite]

yes

[warm night]

goofy

i can see why its a drop

[crisp granite]

my guy just wants to make money and pull out

[warm night]

not really viable to make it in stock is it

🤨

[crisp granite]

honestly, an ordering period and fulfillment of those orders, and that's it would have made more sense

[wanton tinsel]

does the kit work with dav3 board?

or only viper

I'm curious

[warm night]

find out if the boards are identical or not

they are probably not

[wanton tinsel]

is the kit liek

$35 or something

if so I guess I can manage to find an old viper v2 pro and the kit next month

[crisp granite]

Double that

[warm night]

itd like 60 I think

[wanton tinsel]

still manageable

thanks

[warm night]

theres like

1000 units