Fractional scaling is also added to Gnome 45
Released two days ago ahah
#🔌│tech
wheat plume
Only on Wayland though cause yeah
thick elk
Honestly I think that one you linked and I am quite likely to buy would be fine with 2x integer scaling anyway.
wheat plume
Ooo????
thick elk
gba is 240x160 this is 2160x1440 which is 9x in both directions
astral haven
N200 on new surface go
wheat plume
N200 on new surface go
How much does it cost though?
Imma guess 4GB ram too and 64GB eMMC Storage...
astral haven
8gb 128gb base model now
Unknown price probably 600
Neat
Go laptop 3
2k for an Intel igpu hurts
astral haven
Cad ew
wheat plume
Isnt Studio their massive touchscreen desktop AIO that can angle the screen at most angles?
astral haven
Laptop studio
wheat plume
oh
steep creek
Yes 28990 nok is about 2690 usd
steep creek
Probably right, mine said 2690 but close enough haha
astral haven
Gotta keep in mind that USD prices do not include taxes. So when you're comparing, you might want to make sure that you are actually paying or not paying for taxes when you say the price to compare to the US price.
steep creek
Ah that’s true I forgot to include those. I need to figure out how much the taxes are
steep creek
Hm pretty nice, could almost go to another state and pick it up if it was close by lol
astral haven
Can be worth even if it is far
steep creek
Yeah I’d imagine
Taxes here are included, only thing is when importing stuff, I would have to pay import duties on the product
astral haven
And most likely, since they are giving you a native price, they probably already paid for the import duties.
steep creek
They do, it’s included in the price. Most of the companies do
Just companies like wooting and such which do not operate from here, I have to pay duties on sometime later
empty wren
Looks interesting
astral haven
aptera hype lel
hollow vortex
aptera hype lel
ayo
astral haven
what you doing outside of the ltt discord lel
astral haven
im still in ltt btw
just found more interesting hardware to save up for
deckard hype 🚅 Choo choo
hollow vortex
im also planning on buying an he two
but im in the process of discovering the humor of the turkish import duties
astral haven
had mine for 2 years now, been maining it at work for most of a year since at home my logitech wireless charging pad causes it to have problems
hollow vortex
how is the overall experience
astral haven
excellent unless you put it on top of a wireless charging pad
hollow vortex
well no plans on doing that
astral haven
then its just excellent
fantastic for use at work, being able to configure it from a website means you can use it even on a locked down computer
hollow vortex
ooh
that's pretty neat
i think ill ask someone to proxy the keyboard to me from somewhere in eu honestly, doesn't seem like a reliable option to pay duties for it
astral haven
🤷 hard to find a place where a ton of real netadmins hang out
hollow vortex
Ltt discord
the audio chat is reserved for 5 people including me
the good part of the server where I can insult people as much as I want without moderator intervention
hollow vortex
Ltt fans are idiots tho so it doesn't rlly matter
that's why they must not be using the audio chat given how dead it is
astral haven
Ltt fans are idiots tho so it doesn't rlly matter
At least some of them aren't generalizing over huge groups of people...
cursive summit
reef patrol
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mXBzBFxe00o
Man this brings back dark memories of working IT retail.
So much crap that is nigh unsellable.
ashen spindle
Thought that’s a mr beast video for a moment
reef patrol
Might as well be given the theme.
cursive summit
I'm sorry what https://blog.youtube/news-and-events/made-on-youtube-2023/
Wait this is absolutely insane
It completely bypasses the need to film anything or boot up premiere or davinci, or aftereffects
reef patrol
cursive summit
https://storage.googleapis.com/gweb-uniblog-publish-prod/original_videos/MoYT23_...
Considering how fast AI is progressing
I have very mixed feelings about this
I hope that long-form content continues to exist
reef patrol
Considering how shit shorts are... yeah.
YT's shorts system is so bad it keeps breaking down if you use it for more than a few minutes on desktop.
fair gull
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mXBzBFxe00o
Man this brings back dark memories ...
is this how they wanna recover from their last pr nightmare?
hasty thunder
YT's shorts system is so bad it keeps breaking down if you use it for more than ...
not to mention the mobile client where it immediately breaks when you use pic-in-pic
fair gull
the mobile shorts dont do pip
ashen spindle
Damn what an internet explorer moment
They said the same thing months ago if not last year already lol
cursive summit
And from what it looks like there seems to a brewing aftermarket panel replacement/upgrade ecosystem which is pretty cool
Saw some FHD screen upgrade for 99$ or so
Might get an OLED one at some point too
ashen spindle
There isn't really much to upgrade it with
Strix point/halo next year
Could legit have a handheld that could emulate switch 2 on release with better performance lmfao
cursive summit
Strix point/halo next year
Can't you in theory DIY a motherboard with Strix Halo and just swap it into the Deck? 
cursive summit
And how do you cool that
Some beefier watercooled solution or something like that
Plenty of peeps DIY'd those already
Proper 7nm soon 
ashen spindle
Yeah no
Lab working to large scale working won’t change things before like a decade or so
ashen spindle
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1150866474567729174/1154715656286126090/FB_IMG_1695373683831.png looks as expected
wheat plume
LOL
he mentions this video in his
TLDR: Crinnacle likes the way it sounds, but the air filter system is stupid and useless and dangerous
he could have made this rhyme but he decided not to.....
cursive summit
better video about it
Uh, not really
fair gull
i watched both and i do like mkbhd more on the topic
straight to the point and educational
old marlin
I mean the crinacle video is more about the audio part of it
and he himself says that for the other features other videos are gonna be better
specifically pointing to the mkbhd one
wheat plume
this teeny blighter is just 15mm thicc when its folded up and its so wee that itll fit basically anywhere, even inside a shirt pocket or a tiny purse or the cat!
Tech Spurt - Tecno Phantom V Flip - 2023
cursive summit
I mean the crinacle video is more about the audio part of it
Tbf that was the part I really cared about
For internal analysis I can watch the phone destruction testing guy
old marlin
well it is more than just internal analysis
severe phoenix
reef patrol
(waste of a video, TLDR; it's gone)
fair gull
its about the journey
and where the image comes from
and finding out where it was taken
not purely if it still exists
reef patrol
It's about him taking a trip to Japan and doing everything but go into the topic as I recall.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QRIklga9IBQ
nwm, was thinking of this one 😄
fair gull
na he goes into a whole journey of finding the original, then trying to contact the guy running the website and what not
fair gull
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QRIklga9IBQ
nwm, was thinking of this one 😄
oh yeah that video is different although he sort of knew that from vr i think
as he tried finding the place in google earth vr in the video i linked
cursive summit
@dawn epoch https://signal.org/docs/specifications/pqxdh/
steep creek
this the old leaf?
astral haven
It's no brand new car lel
steep creek
ah nevermind it looked so much like the old leafs display to me lol
astral haven
I'm saying you are correct. I thought you knew that I had a leaf.
astral haven
You have an electric?
yep, thats why it has a battery logo, exact percentage, and a plug rather than a gas nozzle
steep creek
ty, what you riding
I had the old 24 kWh leaf for many years. Switched to the 63kwh leaf just recently
astral haven
I had the old 24 kWh leaf for many years. Switched to the 63kwh leaf just recent...
neat!
im looking to go to the aptera if/when it releases
steep creek
Ah yes that one looks really cool, excited for it
astral haven
I was wondering if was a hybrid originally
fair enough
no this is the first release full electric car under 50k
i was dang close to buying a rav4 ev tho
but it was double the price for barely any improvement
steep creek
Oh yes that one never sold that much i think
astral haven
it was actually never sold at all
only leased
vagrant pagoda
i was dang close to buying a rav4 ev tho
toyota is coming back so hard into ev
after all the news of them falling behind
steep creek
I’ve seen a few of them here but they are so rare
vagrant pagoda
they dont make many is the issue
astral haven
toyota is coming back so hard into ev
yea but not long enough ago for it to be on the secondhand market when I was shopping for a car lel
astral haven
and their wheels are falling off
vagrant pagoda
imo they make the best hybrids and ev that arent a f150
astral haven
and their batteries are slow
astral haven
imo they make the best hybrids and ev that arent a f150
fkn what
the bz4x is such trash lmao
i test drove it when i was shopping for a car and it felt so much like a gas car
steep creek
Yeah I never liked that one
astral haven
not ev low
vagrant pagoda
unles you factory battery over miles
astral haven
ion
anything that contains gas is guaranteed to have needed maintenance
vagrant pagoda
also toyota is free maintance on all cars for 2 years
steep creek
Probably an isolated case but the Prius we once had was plagued with issues, was in and out of the workshop too many times
We ended up selling it on a loss
vagrant pagoda
for hybrids
also i stand by the f150 absolutly killing it for hydrid and ev though
astral haven
my parents prius was pretty good, but still oil, gas stations
steep creek
As for the two leafs, they’ve never needed any sort of repairs. Just normal maintenance
astral haven
also i stand by the f150 absolutly killing it for hydrid and ev though
maybe but its a pretty shit car
its a great truck but as a commuter its horrifically expensive both to buy and to run
vagrant pagoda
have you sued one?
astral haven
nah, just did a tour of the interior
and did the math
like if i were to buy a truck it would be the top out of 2 options
vagrant pagoda
and the normal hybird is way better than the specs are
my buddy went from a 16 2.4 to a 23 hybird
and legit doubled the mpg for city
in actual use
astral haven
sure
vagrant pagoda
he is pissed they just annouced the plugin
astral haven
but i get 10000000x more distance between having to go gas stations
astral haven
it requires me to go 20 seconds out of my way to fuel up my car
"fuel"
a gas stop would be at least 10 minutes assuminmg it was on my path
astral haven
and the aptera will require me to go out of my way none of the time for my commute
astral haven
and i never have to go to a store to pay for fuel
vagrant pagoda
you gotta buy food though
astral haven
there is zero chance of my fuel being unavailable
astral haven
Solar fam
steep creek
just the cost and convinience for me hah. charging in the garage for cheap, fuel is about 100 ish usd per tank, sometimes more sometimes less
vagrant pagoda
but also thats why his pissed about the pih
vagrant pagoda
just the cost and convinience for me hah. charging in the garage for cheap, fuel...
oof 16 gallons was under 60 last time
for hurricanes the plugin would be king
i hope the bring the grid tie from the lightning
astral haven
my commute cost $4 in gas and 25c in electricity per day
steep creek
1 liter i believe is 0.26 gallons. cost usually varies from 19-25 nok per liter
astral haven
yea here in the us gas is heavily subsidized
steep creek
yep, here its just evs
astral haven
Everything is heavily subsidized
gas is the most heavily subsidized thing by the US
even more than the military
astral haven
the corn that goes into fuel counts as gas subsidies, the corn that doesnt doesnt
astral haven
But most cash crops are insane subsidized
yes but they do in fact not get subsidized by 7 trillion dollars
vagrant pagoda
And even more so if you count import tax in foreign grains
astral haven
ion
over 5% of the US gdp is gas subsidies
its beyond critical to our economy
but its also a huge liability
vagrant pagoda
yes but they do in fact not get subsidized by 7 trillion dollars
That's a bs number you know
Did you look at what they include in thst
astral haven
everything ofc
but you gotta understand that its still directly responsible for lowered gas prices
vagrant pagoda
It literally isnt
astral haven
well yes by definition it is, because thats what they count
vagrant pagoda
As it includes indirect subsidies like powerplant improvements and Superfund sites
astral haven
of fossil fuel plants
vagrant pagoda
to use less fuel
astral haven
which is money the taxpayer is paying to use fossil fuels
that money could instead go to solar and pumping stations
if we could pause the economy for a year, and take all the subsidies and turn it into local renewable generation, we would at the end of the year have double the jobs, which would be higher paying and most of them would be significantly less dangerous in the energy industry for around 80% of the cost
the problem is of we quit cold turkey, the shock would put us into a depression so bad it would make the great recession look like an accounting error
vagrant pagoda
if we could pause the economy for a year, and take all the subsidies and turn it...
you pulling all the materials out your ass
astral haven
🤷 best estimates are 21 trillion to electrify the world optimistically
astral haven
if we could pause the economy for a year, and take all the subsidies and turn it...
keep in mind here im purely talking about electricity generation not cars
astral haven
to do what exactly
astral haven
what improvements
vagrant pagoda
"turn it into local renewable generation"
astral haven
turn what into renewable generation
you didnt read what i wrote fam lmao
to turn the subsidies into local generation would cost exactly as much as the subsidies
vagrant pagoda
how do you plan on doing local generation
astral haven
solar + pumped hydro
vagrant pagoda
and you have that stting in your basement?
astral haven
well yes but thats not the point you are trying to make lel
think for a second dude
vagrant pagoda
to make that happen
needs parts
that dont exist
you think they will all get made in a year
astral haven
yea thats not true at all
something like 60% of the worlds solar capacity is sitting around doing nothing thanks to being installed too far from civilization
heck you probably would only need to spend money on parts for the pumping stations, and shipping for the solar
ashen spindle
nah I feel like 60% of the worlds solar is on german roofs waiting for bureaucracy to allow enabling that in some years maybe
ashen spindle
only half a /s needed sadly
astral haven
also its a problem in the us as well
mostly for larger installations
because the installations have to pay for the grid upgrades that the fossil fuel incremental upgrades didnt have to pay for
ashen spindle
oh if it was only that
astral haven
its basically only that here
ashen spindle
yeah I meant here
astral haven
yea
besides going back to coal thanks to shutting down the reactors and relying on lng, im pretty sure that at least percentage wise, germany isnt subsidizing fossil fuels as hard at least officially
ashen spindle
if we would not subsidize them they would not make a profit lol
astral haven
sure but the us spends more on fossil fuels than the revenues of all the fossil fuel companies combined
ashen spindle
its just the painful way of 16 years of a government leanign very much in the industires pockets and now a split government that cant spend enough moeny to fix it
yeah not as much for fuel as you do
as sad as it is, this part of a german satire show shows it best, the 5 minutes from the timestamp (has english subtitles) https://youtu.be/YEaE8pRdblw?t=303
astral haven
wow its really hard to say something polite about that
ashen spindle
did you also see the second segment about how many people they employ just to get stuff sorted?
astral haven
no?
also the english captions are autogenerated and pretty awful
ashen spindle
yeah its not great but its the best for a really short overview and I meant the two things they show starting with this https://youtu.be/YEaE8pRdblw?t=526
also yeah it's painful but showing it only via a satire show means I can pretend its not that bad (it is that bad)
smoky frigate
yea
besides going back to coal thanks to shutting down the reactors and relying ...
yep, that turned out a bad idea (as many people pointed out), but fear of nuclear energy does that
current government doesn't inspire team spirit, which is what people want but nobody knows how to achieve at the moment
ashen spindle
it only was a bad idea due to lack of enough transition money spend to build up the rest
we could have been so much deeper in solar and wind and all
but we didnt do that so the shutdowns hurt more
smoky frigate
whether renewable energy is feasible to that degree is a whole other discussion, but basically we didn't do anything yeah lol
ashen spindle
well we have studies that show it basically was, if we had done what was promised to build out the grid lol
which just makes it so much more depressing
astral haven
yep, that turned out a bad idea (as many people pointed out), but fear of nuclea...
well the good news is the detectors to tell if you are being poisoned by fossil fuels are alot more expensive than the ones to check if you are being poisoned by radiation
This is good news because if you cant detect that you are, that must mean that you arent /s
smoky frigate
what do you mean! sunbathing in 30° at the end of september has always been done!!! also I eat paste
smoky frigate
well we have studies that show it basically was, if we had done what was promise...
I don't know for sure. I get the feeling that if it was that good in practice, efforts towards it would have been more intense. maybe political circumstances were against it
or financial ones
ashen spindle
coal and co have lot of money to somehow get to cdu and co
smoky frigate
probably, since it's also one of the few natual resources we actually have and can turn into money
ashen spindle
we are about 4400km of high voltage behind the planned lines lol
which would make it easier to add more places to generate and store
it's the same bad comedy as with DB, how much funding they get vs the autobahn... it's just sad
ashen spindle
wait you're telling me actions have consquences?
smoky frigate
for my part, I was in france during that time, so don't blame me 😛
astral haven
wait you're telling me actions have consquences?
nah thats made up by the politicians trying to make driving your car more expensive
ashen spindle
I meaaaan, france is by far our heaviest importer of electricites, about as much as all nuclear generated the last years 😛
so I could kinda blame you xD
smoky frigate
I lived right next to a nuclear power plant in france and it was a most glorious sight for me
electricity was also fucking cheap
(mainly because I never paid it)
ashen spindle
astral haven
well at least here in the us, im definetly not importing power from germany lel
smoky frigate
but why wouldn't anyone buy our planet-incinerating power!!
true quest
we should be burning the sun instead
astral haven
but why wouldn't anyone buy our planet-incinerating power!!
well at the limit, the energy at least is being put to use if it is being captured by us instead of reflected off into deep space
rough osprey
just get some solar Panels + batteries
smoky frigate
install giant fans to push more sunlight into our direction + capture it with panels
billion dollar idea here. they should hire me
astral haven
too late
shoot i cant find it
there was that satellite proposal to beam solar power down to earth, and they were actually testing it for drone use
ashen spindle
wasnt that china trying to make massive thing in the sky like a second sun
there was something silly like that
astral haven
havent heard of that
astral haven
oh wait it was about a fake moon for gravity tests
wcpgw
ashen spindle
it's been years since I last thought about it so likely they didnt do whatever it was
marsh glade
Nice rack 😏
rough osprey
big
pale sigil
If only payday had servers
coarse cloak
happens
gusty kiln
wat
smoky frigate
coarse cloak
thats a good #🐸│memes one
smoky frigate
The New Adventures of Sigmund Freud, it's only a few pages, recommend it
empty wren
Definitely makes people want nitro more
steep creek
would be fun to see the aptera drifting around in snow, lol
thick elk
is this the bootable usb?
I would probably just recreate that using windows usb creator thingy
rough osprey
Definitely makes people want nitro more
i only got these 🤔
empty wren
iOS?
rough osprey
no
empty wren
Interesting must be not updated or dogfood update
coarse cloak
reef patrol
queen dawn
Google might as well just post the leaks themselves by now 🤣
rough osprey
didn't they already
empty wren
One got leaked in a taxi
rough osprey
like i remember seeing this
wheat plume
This is 8 and 8 Pro
empty wren
Google always be having fat phones
18:9
But still wide
Sony got some real slender phones if that is what you are looking for though
21:9 screens
rough osprey
just design wise
empty wren
Always been phablet fat as well
pixel 1st gen was slimmer
But all other phones were fat
One way to make it less fat is curved screen or very curved edges
Look at apples
Even more a joke
And the result of people recording the new colors at home looks even more like a joke
Well can be a good thing, they usually gave a special color each time though
Panda pixel, oh so orange, the deep blue original one
Could pry from the back if no care though
Heatgun and knife
Oh no
iPhone got it good even though apple is against the customer
Neat layout and battery is right behind the acreen
Equivalent to removal of back glass if possible
smoky frigate
rip
empty wren
Go make a recovery key on a different computer and then wipe your drives completely in the windows installer to deep clean them
Bit too much
rough osprey
lol
empty wren
I saw the 9 at first
rough osprey
109 seems cheap
empty wren
Yeah that does lower component repairs a lot
empty wren
109 seems cheap
And the screen is $400 then....
rough osprey
ye
wheat plume
Need a wireless mouse
- Dongle so I dont have to constantly pair it to whatever its plugged into
- Onboard storage for any settings I change
- 2 side buttons to use with thumb
- Not super expensive
- Software should hopefully have a Linux build or configurable someway in Linux
Why the skull emotes?
oh, they removed comment
superlight is Logitech?
i dont make assumptions here xd unless I am told by the person
astral haven
the logitech superlight is pretty good, i like it
rough osprey
Why the skull emotes?
brick
astral haven
if you want a super budget low latency wireless mouse, the g305 is awesome
unsure about logitech in linux but im pretty sure there are open source configs (and its got onboard storage)
wheat plume
I only need the software for setting up the side buttons
I use those for media playback
astral haven
yea its a 1 time config
wheat plume
hmmm I need to see what mice Piper can work with
astral haven
i havent had the logitech software on my computer in the past year and a half (since i bought the superlight)
wheat plume
same for my Roccat mouse xd
astral haven
the zaunkoenig wont have any issues being configged in linux
but it also wont have any side buttons probably
astral haven
and g305
wheat plume
o??
astral haven
no pulsar
wheat plume
oo got nice colors too for the g305
astral haven
be aware its not a very good shape for gamin
wheat plume
I dont want this for gaming
astral haven
for not gaming you might want to consider the mx anywhere series
wheat plume
oh?
astral haven
2 and 3 are supported by that list
wheat plume
whats better about that for not gaming?
astral haven
dongle optional i mean
wheat plume
aahhh, okk
wheat plume
bluetooth is annoying if you use the mouse on more than one device
astral haven
and actually you might want to look at the razers since you cant get trojaned by them
astral haven
bluetooth is annoying if you use the mouse on more than one device
logitech has multidevice pairing on many of them
wheat plume
and actually you might want to look at the razers since you cant get trojaned by...
wat
astral haven
the windows razer drivers act like a trojan
bootstrapping the installation of their bloatware automatically
wheat plume
then why would I look at Razer ? :')
astral haven
because they make great hardware, and linux is immune to that
wheat plume
and yesh....it happens constantly with my speakers on Windows, the synapse installer keeps getting popped up anytime I plug them into the computer
well, anytime I plug them into the computer while booted into Windows*
wheat plume
Libratbag says g503 but im looking at the g503 Lightspeed, are those different models?
astral haven
g305
wheat plume
so superlight is not part of the name?
wheat plume
so these are the same devices?
astral haven
yes
astral haven
g304 and g303 i believe are also identical hardware?
wheat plume
I love this...
astral haven
yea its all 2.4ghz
wheat plume
g503 can use USB Dongle?
astral haven
only the wireless version
steep creek
i believe the dongle is only for the 2.4ghz models
wheat plume
uh
astral haven
all wireless logitech is 2.4
all wireless logitech g is dongle
wheat plume
seems to be no slot on the mouse to store the dongle
astral haven
yay dect
steep creek
is it made out of bakelite though 😁
astral haven
seems to be no slot on the mouse to store the dongle
g305 has one
wheat plume
then I must be looking at the wrong g305
astral haven
its in the battery compartment
astral haven
if you want it rechargeable, you gotta provide your own rechargeable batteries
wheat plume
yep
astral haven
in the days when i dalied it, i ran through 2 disposable lithium batteries in a year
astral haven
you do have to be religious about turning it off to last that long
wheat plume
yeah I bet xd
the only other wireless device I have that uses Dongle is my controller, but I dont need to turn it off manually since it turns off on its own when placed back in the dock
yeh I saw the button earlier xd
astral haven
yea and the logitech doesnt drain battery that fast when its not moving
rough osprey
stock skates probably trash tho
astral haven
reread convo
but also its shockingly good at least with aa lithiums
balance with alcalines is pretty awful
$80 vs $40 tho
fickle ore
ulx
wheat plume
there is a chance the tech store near me has the g305 but probably not either, its on the website for the shop brand but idk about the specific shop location having it
rough osprey
is the browser stuff not universal?
pale sigil
But if I was travelling she didn't have a spare g703 I'd get a g305
astral haven
similar story with the mx anywhere
pale sigil
Wdym doubt
astral haven
both are designed for biiig hands
wheat plume
is the browser stuff not universal?
Typically websites in Ireland for Irish stores only show the stock on the product page for the main store in Dublin
and if stores in other locations around Ireland dont have a product, they order it down from the Dublin shop and you come back a few days later to collect it
rough osprey
Typically websites in Ireland for Irish stores only show the stock on the produc...
i meant web configuration of the mouse
pale sigil
It was to smol
astral haven
i meant web configuration of the mouse
finalmouse has web config?
wheat plume
aww, Logitechs website is having a sale on the mouse but the local shop isnt ;-;
maybe I can show them the sale and get a price match???
pale sigil
Can try
wheat plume
ooo thats nice
astral haven
https://xpanel.finalmouse.com/
this new?
pale sigil
Finally someone else is doing web shit
astral haven
aaaah
pale sigil
Overpriced
astral haven
^
wheat plume
oh
astral haven
and build isnt fantastic
fickle ore
Well not really, they're quite cheap actually for what you get imo
189$ for a cf composite build
astral haven
its not very small...
wheat plume
the local website is selling the Lilac G305 for 20 euro more than the Black model
🤦♀️ FUCK YOU LOCAL STORE
pale sigil
Lilac?
pale sigil
@astral haven it's small
pale sigil
@prisma crag is there any 3d shit for g703
astral haven
interesting
maybe if FM stops bssing and starts mass producing, and they do it before Zaunkoenig
astral haven
<@126850798666645504> it's small
you used one?
it has small measurements, but it fits best in larger hands
my hands are too small to use it comfortably 😦
astral haven
Honestly web software is so good
why not get one of the charging dock things?
fickle ore
what do you mean?
fickle ore
Ah
astral haven
meant to reply to this
rough osprey
Overpriced
ulx is cheap if it delivers
astral haven
plenty of options of those, check reviews ofc
astral haven
?????
pale sigil
I had the Corsair glaive once
rough osprey
who else is that light and has 8khz
pale sigil
Idk how I used it
wheat plume
whats the top button behind scroll for?
astral haven
who else is that light and has 8khz
what benefit does 8khz bring
pale sigil
whats the top button behind scroll for?
Dpi
astral haven
whats the top button behind scroll for?
dpi but reprogrammable
pale sigil
You can remap though
rough osprey
its a feature tho
astral haven
its a feature tho
its whats called an antifeature
wheat plume
dpi but reprogrammable
ah perfect, like my current roccat :D
pale sigil
Is g305 still not supported by lghub?
pale sigil
For a good while you needed the ancient software
astral haven
LGS is a much easier to use peice of software
fickle ore
I dont reallly care for the 8khz wireless. I prob will play with 4khz or 1khz mostly but the 33~g medium shape weight if true is beyond good lol
pale sigil
I don't get the hate with lghub
fickle ore
full size body 33g w_t_f
astral haven
I like it too, but its significantly slower to set up than LGS
astral haven
the old software
fickle ore
even then only real weight competitor is gwolves at same price
ace 4k is like 39g with holes and its smaller isnt it?
astral haven
Logitech Gaming Software I think?
pale sigil
Oh ye it was alright but I hated it
fickle ore
but like you said, no competition atm
astral haven
it was so quick to get out of the way
pale sigil
No... just need to change the priority on bootup
Idk if the mean bootup or general
Because it's deffo on the slower side for bootup vs others tbh
But not slow enough for me to care
astral haven
the other problem i have is how unintuitive it is to save a profile to the mouse
rough osprey
ace 4k is like 39g with holes and its smaller isnt it?
which one
and still 10g heavier
(if you can trust fm)
pale sigil
the other problem i have is how unintuitive it is to save a profile to the mouse
I'll give you that
I wish backing up and exporting profiles was more simple
fickle ore
wait that is wrong link
rough osprey
ace isnt 4k
pale sigil
Rather than appdating shit
fickle ore
ace isnt 4k
rough osprey
ye
fickle ore
no just invest in spy500 instead
rough osprey
4k ye
astral haven
you notice it by your game lagging to death
rough osprey
haven't tried 8k yet
astral haven
unless its a short list of supported games
fickle ore
you notice it by your game lagging to death
new w11 patch has polling rate minimized for background apps and some poll batching improvements to minimize lag
astral haven
ow2 only renders at 600fps max, over that shouldnt help substantially
folks on google are complaining about 8 and 4khz
pale sigil
Id like a GPU that renders ow2 at 600fps
fickle ore
Id like a GPU that renders ow2 at 600fps
ez at 50 % render scale
astral haven
new w11 patch has polling rate minimized for background apps and some poll batch...
which shouldnt matter for raw input?
rough osprey
ow needs good cpu and ram
fickle ore
which shouldnt matter for raw input?
Not for Raw Input no, but it's overall less overhead for the cpu and less frame loss 🤷
astral haven
and uh
it lags hardcore if you move the mouse around
even at 1khz if you have a slow enough system
fickle ore
Ill try Osu for you when my ulx arrives on my windows 11 system that is patched
😛
in couple weeks
astral haven
i have a zaunkoenig, if i cared enough to find out I would just run it
fickle ore
Ah
wheat plume
.....wait wait
Does the g305 have onboard storage???
pale sigil
All of them do
But you can store basic shit
And a single profile
All mice are like this really
Well most
wheat plume
If I change what the side buttons and dpi button do, that will be stored onboard???
astral haven
yes
pale sigil
If I change what the side buttons and dpi button do, that will be stored onboard...
By default no
wheat plume
What
wheat plume
Mixed messages
astral haven
new software for new mice is jank
wheat plume
No
I'll be using Piper
astral haven
🤷 that youll have to research
but with the logitech gaming software, its stored onboard
wheat plume
Ooookkkk
astral haven
logitech swapped softwares recentlyish
pale sigil
Piper saves to memory
If you tell it too
But it uses profiles like lghub
I had to boot into Windows to change my onboard xd
The issue with Piper and Linux is they are different no matter what, it's annoying.
wheat plume
Idk why Piper wouldn't save to memory
Cause Piper itself can't run in the background
pale sigil
As I said you can tell it too, like wootility
Click save
Oh ok ignore me
G305 has 5 profiles
wheat plume
Oo
astral haven
my favorite logitech feature is shift
its basically a modifier key for just the mouse
pale sigil
Never fully understood that
wheat plume
99g weight
Idek the weight of my current mouse but it's a heavy bastard
pale sigil
How does it work
pale sigil
99g weight
Idek the weight of my current mouse but it's a heavy bastard
You can make it lighter
Using one battery with tinfoil
wheat plume
Idk if I want it lighter
astral haven
imagine you have a button dedicated to changing profiles, except it swaps back once you let go
wheat plume
I'm used to a heavy mouse
astral haven
so like you would hit ctrl c to copy
pale sigil
Shit, that's something I've wanted for so long.
astral haven
except its shift right click to pause or something
pale sigil
Wait wait
pale sigil
So you're saying I could shift dpi to use a macro???
astral haven
dunno if it supports macros
pale sigil
I could have just read this ....
What's this?
astral haven
but it can do basic key combos
wheat plume
What's this?
G305
astral haven
g305,4,3 are the same pcb for different regions
wheat plume
Ooohhh wtf
astral haven
g304 is indistinguishable from g305 tho
wheat plume
So g305 = g304 + dongle?
astral haven
nope
wheat plume
...
astral haven
exactly identical
wheat plume
Oh
pale sigil
I bought a German version for £15 less when I got mine 
wheat plume
Is it like how Xiaomi call some of their phones different mobile names depending on what region?
pale sigil
The only difference was the box
astral haven
something like that yea except without even changing the default language and rom
pale sigil
Lana
wheat plume
Ooopp
pale sigil
Get it
Just get it
I have 2 g703s
10/10 can recommend as you'll need to rma it a year later anyway.
wheat plume
I so want the KD/A one but I can't justify spending an extra 20 euro for it
pale sigil
I so want the KD/A one but I can't justify spending an extra 20 euro for it
THERE'S A KDA ONE?
pale sigil
?
Logitech mice are notorious for double clicks, Logitech just gave me a new one without asking for the old one.
Fixed the old one and now it's my travel one.
wheat plume
THERE'S A KDA ONE?
pale sigil
Fffuccck
wheat plume
Logitech mice are notorious for double clicks, Logitech just gave me a new one w...
Oh....
Time to cancel order .-.
wheat plume
Why ??
pale sigil
Tbh I think it's their higher end nice that do.
rough osprey
no optical g305 yet
pale sigil
My friend has had his g305 since 2019
astral haven
the doublclicking is pretty fantastic, you get a second mouse and you can hit the first with some compressed air every few weeks if you want to keep it working
and then you have 2 mice
wheat plume
My roccat mouse I had for nearly 10 years by now is starting to double click ;_;
astral haven
never happened to mine tho
pale sigil
If it doesn't double click before warranty you're fine.
Most double clicks tend to happen during warranty.
pale sigil
Doesn't matter
Easy to fix but they'll probably replace.
Ik someone who did it a year out of warranty
Logitech literally doesn't give a shit.
wheat plume
and then you have 2 mice
Don't they make you return the faulty one??
astral haven
logitech is one of the better companies for warranty
wheat plume
Oh my
pale sigil
I have 2 G703s hahahahha
astral haven
not evga level but not bad at all
fkn evga actually giving you a better product if yours dies
astral haven
yea it only happens after they drop the previous gen
wheat plume
How do they verify that your mouse is faulty if they don't ask for it back?
pale sigil
They gave me an updated PSU
pale sigil
How do they verify that your mouse is faulty if they don't ask for it back?
They
Don't
Care
They are pennies to make
wheat plume
So you could send a false report and just get a second mouse????
That don't seem right
astral haven
do you want a second mouse tho?
astral haven
and if you do it more than once or twice they may complain
also pretty sure they ask for POP
pale sigil
Pop yes
astral haven
yea so no buying a busted mouse on ebay and rmaing it
pale sigil
They also don't count Amazon warehouse 😦
wheat plume
POP?
astral haven
proof of purchase
wheat plume
well yeah, id expect that part at least
pale sigil
My G403 got borked, not double click but the click was funky.
astral haven
They also don't count Amazon warehouse 😦
there are some sellers who sell busted device directly on amazon, not awhs
pale sigil
Said I can't claim warranty due to being an Amazon warehouse order.
It was sold by Amazon
wheat plume
I ordered direct from the Logitech Europe site
pale sigil
Either way I got my g403 for £22
astral haven
but my camera was bought on amazon through a third party reseller as broken
$60 for a $200 camera for just a busted lcd which i replaced for $15
wheat plume
Seems this one uses GHub
wheat plume
idk anything about their software
pale sigil
I have some Kali switches in my draw for mice
But I don't wanna touch shit till warranty runs out
Also want to upgrade my battery.
but tjen i got this bad boy from AliExpress
wheat plume
Is this compatible with the Powerplay mouse mat??
astral haven
no 😦
pale sigil
USB 3
wheat plume
IDK how it could be cause it is battery powered
pale sigil
It's battery powered
wheat plume
hhmmm ok...
astral haven
gotta get the g pro if you want that
pale sigil
No?
astral haven
the original g pro might be interesting for you
pale sigil
No?
astral haven
should be cheap now
pale sigil
Loads of nice support the power play mousepad
astral haven
sure but the og gpw should now be the cheapest?
pale sigil
Also Lana you won't need to worry about battery
I wish I could use physical batteries haha
wheat plume
Seems the cheapest PowerPlay supported mouse is G703 and that is 80 euro , so no thanks
pale sigil
Soooooooo much better than the fucking shite batteries inside 703 etc
wheat plume
Also Lana you won't need to worry about battery
yeha apparently not xd
astral haven
dang, the gpw is still $80 here
it was already $80 over a year ago 😦
would have thought it would get cheaper
astral haven
personally prefer to just use the lithium AAs
wheat plume
o.o
astral haven
the aaas were a bit janky weight distribution
pale sigil
Honestly Lana
wheat plume
yo
astral haven
yea its not like the fly by night companies
logitech is a huge company that honors warranty well
young pecan
sure but the og gpw should now be the cheapest?
Can confirm. Used they're like $30 where I am.
Unbeatable value, ngl.
astral haven
and logitech makes a huge ton of bs
currently typing to yall on a logitech display
young pecan
What's the deal with the G703? Why does everyone love it so much?
astral haven
one of the earliest good wireless mice afaik?
celest thorn
I have this random havit mouse
young pecan
one of the earliest good wireless mice afaik?
Ok so nostalgia.
pale sigil
It's a fantastic mouse for a good price
And G403 was extremely loved
And not everyone can justify $80 for a mouse
young pecan
I've used it before. Like ignoring the cable it's eh. For whatever reason the G Pro felt nicer.
celest thorn
pale sigil
Cable?
celest thorn
Its aight
pale sigil
703 is wireless
young pecan
The 403.
pale sigil
Hence 703 being popular
celest thorn
The buttons are kinda shit but they work
pale sigil
Because yanno 403 wireless foool
pale sigil
Mice are personal
young pecan
Like is it heavier or smth?
celest thorn
I want a better mouse but i need a gazillion buttons on the side and all the ones that have that are kinda expensive
young pecan
Ah. That might be it.
wheat plume
The only wireless mouse I've used so far is this really shit 10 euro one that is so inaccurate my laptop touchpad is much easier to deal with
celest thorn
Lmao
wheat plume
Shit mouse go zoom
young pecan
I use a Lightspeed atm and it's good. Not a whole lot better than a G Pro but my last one broke so lmao.
young pecan
Yep.
young pecan
As much as I love my Zmouse I'd commit multiple felonies or war crimes for it to be wireless.
wheat plume
Wireless would defeat the purpose of Wooting xf
celest thorn
Wires are annoying cus my desk has so much garbage on it
pale sigil
So it keeps getting scrapped 
pale sigil
Wireless would defeat the purpose of Wooting xf
Not really
young pecan
Wot?
young pecan
Did you forget that Logitech and Razer both nailed this years ago?
astral haven
Ok so nostalgia.
its not really nostalgia?
it just is a nice and generic RH shape, and other than that doesnt make any mistakes
its also cheaper than the GPW
wheat plume
Logitech barely counts as wireless for their high end mice cause they recommend having the dongle no more than a foot away from the mouse
pale sigil
Lol mine isn't close to my mouse xd
wheat plume
And if you use the powerplay pad, you have a cable anyway going the whole length to your desk
Lol
young pecan
I'd know. My downstairs G Pro sits like 6 meters away from the receiver.
pale sigil
Lana babe
young pecan
No perf drop.
pale sigil
The point is to eliminate drag
celest thorn
And if you use the powerplay pad, you have a cable anyway going the whole length...
But its not attached to the mouse which makes it not annoying
astral haven
just dont put it on the exact opposite side of your pc from your mouse
pale sigil
Not just have no wire
astral haven
it aint gonna travel through your pc
young pecan
it aint gonna travel through your pc
No it does.
pale sigil
My pc is on the floor
young pecan
It like fr does.
celest thorn
My pc is on the floor
Same
pale sigil
It does
young pecan
Idk what kind of black magic Logitech uses but that shit ignores metal and walls.
astral haven
no, it reflects off the wall, but that doesnt work too well
wheat plume
But its not attached to the mouse which makes it not annoying
I've never been bothered by the cable
Probably cause I keep 90% of tie cable on the back of my desk so it's always on a flat surface
celest thorn
no, it reflects off the wall, but that doesnt work too well
reflects???
wheat plume
So no drag
astral haven
*reflects???*
welcome to wireless
its all the same physics as normal light just lower frequency
young pecan
I've never been bothered by the cable
Probably cause I keep 90% of tie cable on...
I could never. Just the slight pressure the cable puts on movements annoys me.
pale sigil
young pecan
I perf fine with it, but fuck me it's obnoxious.
pale sigil
Before I had it literally behind my PC and mouse in front
celest thorn
Well my desk looks like this, so
astral haven
I could never. Just the slight pressure the cable puts on movements annoys me.
zaunkoenig with braided bare wire
wheat plume
I could never. Just the slight pressure the cable puts on movements annoys me.
My mouse is so heavy anyway
I barely notice the hardly existent cable drag
pale sigil
Bro wtf
wheat plume
Well my desk looks like this, so
The fucking can of Campbell's :') that made me laugh so much and idk why
young pecan
My mouse is so heavy anyway
I barely notice the hardly existent cable drag
It's not the drag. Stiff cables slightly put pressure on the mouse and make it want to turn. That's annoying even with a Zmouse which I guarantee you is heavier than anything you've used for PC pointers.
pale sigil
Theres like 4 more of those in the back
Doesn't answer my question
celest thorn
The fucking can of Campbell's :') that made me laugh so much and idk why
Its yummy
young pecan
zaunkoenig with braided bare wire
celest thorn
astral haven
its the same as all the other wireless technologies but its worse because its 20 years old and just keeps getting patches to stay relevant
pale sigil
wheat plume
Fucking hell
young pecan
Bro this is not a brag. Wtf are you doing?
pale sigil
Fuck man, I used to say it was overrated and stupid.
celest thorn
Bro this is not a brag. Wtf are you doing?
Eating dinner
wheat plume
Clean yo shit bruh :')
pale sigil
Ok not trying to judge.
young pecan
That's not what that is. Clean your fucking desk.
pale sigil
That's kinda bad
young pecan
BRO
celest thorn
Clean yo shit bruh :')
If i clean it then it feels wrong
wheat plume
If i clean it then it feels wrong
Nah m8
pale sigil
Shut up @halcyon willow
celest thorn
Like the cans maybe
wheat plume
Clean that shit
celest thorn
I dont need the cans
astral haven
If i clean it then it feels wrong
ADD or ADHD? lel
celest thorn
But i need a bunch of shit at the back
wheat plume
You'll get it soon.
🤔
celest thorn
It feels cozy
celest thorn
ADD or ADHD? lel
Adhd lmao