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old marlin
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and fire as many as possible

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gets a shitton of wear on them

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but ig it is good for r&d

cursive summit
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I haven't seen a single PzH knocked out, if that's what you mean

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But yes they aren't really being used by the manual

old marlin
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well they get knocked out by having to get repairs OMEGALUL

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pretty sure russia reported blowing up a few of them

cursive summit
old marlin
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not sure if they actually did

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bruh have they still not found it

cursive summit
old marlin
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as expected

cursive summit
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Only documented damage to a PzH

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Not one has been knocked out

old marlin
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I mean they claim to have only destroyed more himars than were deployed

cursive summit
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Which is funny cause not a single HIMARS was knocked out either

old marlin
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yea

young pecan
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Ghost HIMARS.

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How can you say they didn't destroy them?

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HIMARS from beyond.

old marlin
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everything that even remotely looks like one counts

young pecan
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Pile of trees might've been a HIMAR in disguise.

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YOU COULDN'T KNOW.

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Better mark it as a kill just to be sure.

old marlin
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I mean how much further back can russia go with digging out tanks

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how long until they deploy the good ol toyota pickup with whatever welded on the bed

young pecan
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Hey.

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It worked for Chad.

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Ngl they're probably the second best military in Ukraine.

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Push Russia down to #3.

old marlin
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I mean in the right condition a toyota is a damn effective weapon

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the numbers don't lie

young pecan
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There are pics of Hiluxes with tank shells through the engine block and they're running with half an engine somehow.

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Like if it's surviving that it'll survive anything.

old marlin
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well

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you still need someone on the inside

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ig if your two options are either bleeding out in a wet trench somewhere while someone films you with their drone to blast music over it or having a short but explosive time in a hilux the choice would be clear for many of them?

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tbh

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they would be omega fucked if it came to that

young pecan
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If there's a will there's a way.

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Not a good way.

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But there is one.

old marlin
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I mean at this point only a matter of time until they start digging out T-34s

young pecan
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Was that not their entire war doctrine for WW1 and WW2? Actually all of their wars.

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haha big weapon go brrrrr

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lots of soldier go brrrrrrr

old marlin
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I mean

young pecan
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winter go brrrrrrr

old marlin
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yea kinda

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just like

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how fucking cheap can you make it

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while still being able to actually do anything to a heavy german tank

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so uhh

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has not changed much ig

young pecan
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Honestly Russia is... pretty fucked.

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Like they can't win this.

old marlin
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all of the "modern" stuff is kinda vaporware

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like the T-14

old marlin
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ukraine is just getting enough support to not curbstomp

thick elk
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I really like the following saying about the russian army:
The russian millitary is a large and modern military, just the large part is not modern and the modern part is not large.

young pecan
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A DMZ? Lmao no.

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Dude you know they blew up an M300 with an Australian cardboard drone launched from probably Estonia.

thick elk
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As long as the west keeps support up and I assume Europe can pick up the slack even if the US tunes out a bit, I think the most likely scenario would be mostly a Russian defeat.
But at a large cost of lifes and infrastructure.

young pecan
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Oh yeah for sure.

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They'll go down but it'll be kicking and screaming.

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Thoughts of nukes though? They for sure have some probably functional ones, but given their cluster munitions have a failrate of 40% I'd be surprised if they got an actual nuke off.

thick elk
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It depends, I feel like if the regime falls the most likely course of action is it's replacement wanting to make peace.

young pecan
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Like maybe a gun nuke at best.

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I don't see Russia being able to actually maintain an implosion bomb properly.

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Or a fusion bomb.

thick elk
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The problem with the nuke scenario is that while sabre rattling about using nukes is useful, actually using them is not.

young pecan
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Yep.

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Dirty bombs in general suck when your goal is invade.

thick elk
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Nukes are a hard line for china, and China turning against Russia is pretty much game over.
They really do not want the nuclear taboo to be broken, as that would significantly increase the odds of Taiwanese and Vietnamese Nukes pointed at them in the future.
If Russia goes that far they have to send a message that it's completely unacceptable.

astral haven
young pecan
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Rockets are far simpler devices than an implosion or fusion bomb.

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I'm sure they have a few, but nowhere near the stockpiles they claim. High maintenance deviecs.

haughty vector
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Anyone got a spare 4090 laying around?

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I’ll buy for $10 but willing to negotiate

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damn that’s actually a good price

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too bad i’m broke asf

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how much did you buy it for?

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if only i needed that much gpu power

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i only play cpu intensive games unfortunately

astral haven
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seems kinda messed up to spend 1400 on not even the full die...

empty wren
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@vagrant pagoda had a lovely clog today, petg turned into a ptfe tube

vagrant pagoda
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Oof

empty wren
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Conformed to a 1.5mm ID due to steel rod and I could see light, only when I took the hotend mount out the mgn mount did I determine why 1.75mm plastic did not fit

vagrant pagoda
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I had my mmu2 do almost the same

empty wren
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No wonder people hate those

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Yet somehow Bambu labs got a reliable one

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And it looks pretty too

vagrant pagoda
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Yeah mmu is like what 7 years old?

empty wren
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If you mean resin ones, probably the current hobbist standard for resin machines, despite them being market leaders they are innovating too

empty wren
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Now there are a bunch of options though

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Enraged rabbit carrot feeder, trad rack(closed beta I think still) and ROME

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Rome basically combines several extruders together

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3d chameleon and mosaic are ancient ones too

empty wren
gusty kiln
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half a watt out of a small portable is pretty cool

astral haven
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dual 43131 is not bad at all

empty wren
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That is Rome, very simple

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Probably costs more than an mmu with 3 orbiter extruders though

rough osprey
ashen spindle
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smh linux copying from windows again

cursive summit
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What?

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Why would I go Nvidia

young pecan
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Bro please don't tell me you actually recommend Gigabyte. KEKW

cursive summit
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Gigabyte is fine

young pecan
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Literally the worst first party GPU brand in the western world.

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I speak from a lot of experience.

cursive summit
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Would rather buy Jiggy than Asrock

young pecan
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Yeah nah brain dent take.

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At this stage I've cycled through a few hundred GPUs, Gigabyte consistently has the most problems.

cursive summit
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I have had far better experiences with Jiggy than asrock and definitely better experience than ASUS, so fuck you

young pecan
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Asrock has board issues and sometimes software issues. Gigabyte has issues everywhere but usually software, Asus has light software and hardware, MSI is usually fine unless they fuck up in which case it's bad.

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But Gigabyte consistently performs by far the worse.

cursive summit
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Jiggy will always be my go-to unless there's a better option like XFX or Powercolor stuff

ashen spindle
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gigabyte is great if they offer something like the aorus boards and you are willing to tinker to get it working if needed

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its the worst option for recommending unless you want to fix peoples pcs

young pecan
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Basically yeah.

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Like they can't release shit in a stable state and charge top dollar. F tier brand.

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At least when Asrock releases something it actually performs as expected short of a hardware failure.

cursive summit
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Everyone has different experiences innit

ashen spindle
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only one is wildly shared on the net though

cursive summit
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Jiggy has always been nice to me, I'd go with them until they fuck something up on my end

young pecan
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Yeah that's a nice sentiment but when the global average is 'gigabyte tends to fuck up more than the others' then it's you getting lucky.

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Always remember you need to get lucky a LOOOT of times, but you only need to get unlucky once.

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Gigabyte is not good at that. LUL

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It's the same logic for why EVGA is beloved by nearly everyone that looks at them. Short of bad hardware failure they pretty much... don't die. That's the overwhelming opinion, it's not based on fringe 'B-b-b-but it works for me' logic.

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Already miss EVGA. :(

ashen spindle
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I'm coping on amd making a big gpu so no evga anyway dogekek

young pecan
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Ok but like...

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Imagine if they did.

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Big AMD perf go brrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr

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Do we even know why they chose not to go AMD?

ashen spindle
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I just want the „we have mi300 at home“ gpu pepecry

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You mean in general or why they didn’t got amd after they stopped with Nvidia?

ashen spindle
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Probably just deals or maybe wasn’t worth when they started bc I don’t remember when they entered gpus

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And after he ceo said they are still upholding the relation so it’s tradition kinda thing to not do the business Partner bad

young pecan
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Yeah ig that makes sense.

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Honestly I just hope we get EVGA motherboards. Those were historically just always good.

cursive summit
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Lol, this court thing is insane

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Xbox-next got specifications leaked already through court docs

ashen spindle
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yup and MS got a boner for arm but I dont see that going anywhere

cursive summit
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Silicon:

  • CPU: ARM64 vs x64 (Zen6)
  • CPU: Balance of Big/Little CPU Cores
  • GPU: Co-design w/ AMD or license AMD IP (Navi 5/RDNA5)
  • NPU: Balancing the desire for flexible, programmable ML silicon versus high performance silicon for targeted workloads
  • Forward compatilbility

Graphics Innovation:

  • Next Generation DirectX Raytracing
  • Dynamic Global Illumination
  • Micropolygon Rendering optimizations
  • ML Based Super Resolution
  • Extensibility Model for Faster Iteration and Innovation

Thin OS:

  • Lacking Thin OS for < $99 Consumer or Handheld Devices
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Zen 6 is in quite a while

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Does AMD have some sort of AI FSR in the works? ML based super resolution?

ashen spindle
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this is for like 2028 releases, ofc they do

cursive summit
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In 2028 we'll prolly have Zen 7 lel

ashen spindle
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but its also a massive joke they think they can make their own arm chip vs zen6 for some reasons and have it be profitable and not get fucked by sony who could get a year early or so

cursive summit
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DoA on arrival feelsbadman, adopting zen 6 when zen 7 is out

cursive summit
ashen spindle
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the biggest wtf is wanting to use arm when they could push devs to support windows and xbox better by not having different things

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a console is not a mac where lower power arm designs can just come in and win

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like they need some insane people out of nowhere to somehow beat amd and intel

cursive summit
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AMD could probably give Microsoft a better deal than what it'd take for Microsoft to design and manufacture their own SoCs

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Is this what we call, mismanagement?

ashen spindle
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idk could be a long term plan that might win I just dont see how

cursive summit
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Under NPU part, they mention "flexible, programmable silicon".. isn't that just FPGAs? And as it happens, AMD has acquired world's cutting edge FPGA tech manufacturer

ashen spindle
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yes fpgas are part of it, they also have their own AI chips

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all this is like 1.5 years ago though so stuff already changed

young pecan
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My GPU AIB tierlist is:
Asus
Asrock
MSI
Galax

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All good. Then you have Gigabyte in the F tier of F tier.

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Galax is a bit of a sleeper, ngl.

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Yep, defend the bois from Gigabyte. Facts.

ashen spindle
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Galax/Palit/kfa and I think pny are all the same but not known in the us since some of them only sell Europe and Asia

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Galax from Hall of Fame cards ofc

young pecan
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Gainward is another super sleeper actually.

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Those guys are underrated as fuck.

ashen spindle
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That was the one not pny they all are palit

young pecan
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Ngl tho Galax is just weirdly good compared to the rest.

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Do they have different BIOS engineers or something?

ashen spindle
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No idea

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But palit are nvidias biggest AiB at times

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Had like 40% share in russian Nvidia sales and such

young pecan
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Damn alright.

reef patrol
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Bahaha... Musk is threatening to make Twitter a paid service for all.

rough osprey
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can he wait till threads is available in europe

reef patrol
rough osprey
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yall following your government?

reef patrol
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Considering how people won't pay a buck for an app on am appstore, I think this will cause a majority exodus.

halcyon moss
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Governments are reacting to this by setting up their own mastodon (and likes)

young pecan
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Imo? Twitter needs to die and everyone really needs to look at Estonia for how to do government tech.

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Those guys are so much further ahead than everyone else.

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It's not even funny.

rough osprey
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where should they go

young pecan
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Estonia just made their own stuff.

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They fully digitized their entire government structure.

rough osprey
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nah i mean the twitter users

young pecan
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Preferably back into the abyss they crawled out of.

young pecan
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True

pale sigil
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Sad they delayed oversoul change pepecry

rough osprey
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it's kinda a good place for many stuff tho

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like game news

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discussions

young pecan
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Ok ok but hear me out.

rough osprey
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and so on

young pecan
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Hear me out.

pale sigil
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Just move to bluesky

young pecan
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I like a discussion platform that isn't 3 good sentences, and I like my news in format that isn't cancerous.

pale sigil
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I don't want an Instagram account

young pecan
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^

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Insta is F tier.

rough osprey
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all the good people are there tho

reef patrol
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I don't want to use Instagram or Reddit, because both platforms constantly pester you about using the app.

young pecan
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Reddit has one use and one use alone.

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Google:
<problem> reddit

rough osprey
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ye

reef patrol
young pecan
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Actually so effective, ngl.

rough osprey
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twitter just needs new management

young pecan
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Yeeeah nah.

rough osprey
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like no one was annoyed by it before the elon stuff

young pecan
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Twitter has always been a toxic shit platform, Elon accelerated the decay but he didn't start it.

rough osprey
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depends what bubble u are in

young pecan
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Not really. The platform has always had a shit UX, the search algo was never great, the artificial limitations are dog shit for no reason, and the bots have always been bad.

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It doesn't matter what echo chamber you clamber into, the platform sucks.

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Guy knows. That's the only use of twitter.

pale sigil
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I liked Twitter tbh

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It was good for news and for me to follow artists

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But thankfully 90% of who I follow moved to bluesky

ashen spindle
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Yeah it was great for just following news of different sorts

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Modern version of tailored rss feed kinda

pale sigil
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Ye

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Other than that I had no use for it

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With the odd replies here and there

mild dome
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I liked the platform for...

...Art

cursive summit
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WTF IS THAT

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That mouse looks like a ripoff Razer Basilisk

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That keyboard is disgusting

raw zephyr
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Gaming Keyboard & Mouse

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it says on the picture

cursive summit
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Fun to know we are taking one from Switch's book

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I hope they don't release that keyboard and mouse cause fuck me it's ugly

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Frame Rate Interpolation?

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That's... promising

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That's a move to temporal up-sampling in a way, which is amazing

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I approve of his Anya tshirt

old marlin
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the case is horrible

wheat plume
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yeh...

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it does look like something from space though

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so I give credit for that one

old marlin
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not sure if that even classifies as a case

wheat plume
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its not very pocket-able

cursive summit
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25$ wireless 🤢

old marlin
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what's wrong with that

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if it sounds good, good for them

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would not just trust one reviewer tho

cursive summit
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@young pecan OpenAI just achieved AGI

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OpenAI's Gobi model, according to an insider, has human-like general intelligence

vagrant pagoda
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How is that case gonna keep them clean lol

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All the pocket lint

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gusty kiln
cursive summit
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I think it also depends on what sort of Gigabyte product you are suggesting

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Afaik, Gigabyte mobos are pretty top tier

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Gigabyte GPUs? Below average, meh

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They do monitors and they are alright afaik

ashen spindle
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no its pretty bad all around

steep creek
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Looks quite nice

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cursive summit
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Is there genuinely anything good the E cores at

ashen spindle
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instead of the impossible they do whats possible

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yes thats how things work

cursive summit
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Hm, fair

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But what if it sucks compared to a proper 64 cored CPU? dogenek

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Or hell, 128?

gusty kiln
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Oh wow didn't realize the 4090 matrix was doubled the price

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👀mm

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Imagine spending $3200 on not a full die

cursive summit
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But tbf I don't see the point of spending over a grand on audio

smoky frigate
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in-ear reference monitor sounds like what it probably is, a tool

warm night
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no some people just like spending a lot on audio

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(like, a lot)

smoky frigate
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bretty cool, but if you just want to listen to music, there are headphones for that purpose

warm night
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unfortunately the line does not tell you everything but it is an idea of how it sounds

smoky frigate
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of course, you don't hear with your eyes, but it should give you an indication what they are meant to do

warm night
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so what i said

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it is an idea of how it sounds

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but on the point of there being headphones for that purpose, there are iems for that purpose too

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random chinese companies release one every week these days

warm night
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yeah

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there are literally iems that are like

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10k

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but the only one i know of is apparently absolute garbage

smoky frigate
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they have surprisingly many above the 1kbux mark.

warm night
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theres a lot that are sub 100 these days

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but yea audio gets expensive fast

smoky frigate
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I suppose that they must be selling quite a lot, else there wouldn't be that many in the price class

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crazy

gusty kiln
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$1000 to get one of the best sound according to crinacle

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Monarch mkii

warm night
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technically if you sort by rank the elysian annihilator is above it

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which is 3700

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🤓

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but both are S- so 🤷

gusty kiln
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"One of"

warm night
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oh

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id idnt read

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my bad

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end of teh day tho crinacle is just one guy

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apparently the iems i use are "broken" to him but to me theyre pretty enjoyable

gusty kiln
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One guy who have heard a lot more than 99% of people though

warm night
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still just a guy

smoky frigate
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the "best" is highly subjective in audio, there is a lot of marketing involved

gusty kiln
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@prisma crag

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Someone trying to make $50 glass pads

old marlin
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and?

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nothing that new

ashen spindle
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thanks intel fors this useful slide

old marlin
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if you just want a glass pad you can get one that size for like 20 bucks from china

old marlin
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you would not belief

smoky frigate
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next but MORE of it

gusty kiln
fickle ore
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Glass pads r boring af

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Just sell XL poron deskpads for less than 120€ plz

gusty kiln
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Lgg already have the saturn pro in 1000x500

fickle ore
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god even girl clothes dont cost so much

old marlin
gusty kiln
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Just buy 2 venus pro

warm night
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just get a cheap deskmat and put your 500x500 or whatever pad on top

gusty kiln
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Ezpz

warm night
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easy

gusty kiln
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Venus pros are 37.50 atm

fickle ore
warm night
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get 2 500x500 pads

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put side by side

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win

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which

fickle ore
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then there a hole that gathers bread crumbs

warm night
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dont eat at your desk

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or, alternatively, clean up after yourself

gusty kiln
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I only like desk pad to put my elbow on

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Other than that no real need for desk pad

warm night
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i used to use a deskpad but honestly i dont really miss it

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oh yeah they are goated

gusty kiln
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You can get a susvara clone for 1k if you trust aliexpress

warm night
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not trusting ali with 1k

gusty kiln
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People have measured and reviewed it

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It gets really close

fickle ore
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well mousing wrist actually too

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And 4mm poron pads are the comfiest kek

gusty kiln
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On headfi and reddit

final flame
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not like aliexpress reviews are trustworthy

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I always look at the purchase count on aliexpress

gusty kiln
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It's China and hifiman are making huge ass margins on all their headphones

smoky frigate
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havo if I put this next to a bat, it'll really appreciate the 75khz noise

gusty kiln
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Kek

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I think I would pick the utopia in the 5k price range

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Wanna experience the beryllium drivers

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Focal

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Going for 700 now

cursive summit
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We missed it

gusty kiln
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Heddphone 2 uses AMT drivers but not many people have them yet

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Will definitely provide a unique experience

smoky frigate
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now I kinda wanna listen to a pair of susvaras. maybe one day

gusty kiln
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Gotta go to an audio show

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Or lucky enough to live near a store

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There is an audio show near me in 2 months

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Still trying to see if I have time to go

final flame
gusty kiln
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Unfortunately it's not canjam

final flame
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sadge

gusty kiln
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It'll probably mostly speakers there

final flame
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rn I'm trying to see if it's possible for me to go in my schedule
canjam would be a few hour drive for me go to, so ideally I'd go this year

smoky frigate
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interesting impression from one guy. considering he's testing headphones that are about 3500bux apart from each other

gusty kiln
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From what I can tell after a certain dollar amount, super high end is just finding the right flavor you want

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People spend grands on nice tube sound

smoky frigate
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what puts them apart for you?

gusty kiln
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@final flame did you see the new dune color for the bathys?

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Lol that action figure

smoky frigate
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I see! thanks for the detailed response. I'm genuinely curious. I have okay-ish headphones, but pretty much all my audio is old ghetto analog shit. looking towards the future, if I ever get my arse up to earn enough money, to buy high tier shit.

gusty kiln
pliant ridge
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I’m chilling with the 560s until I decide to splurge on the 800s

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Would need new DAC and amp tho too lol. So I’ll probably be good for a while

smoky frigate
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I got myself an asus xonar essence STX for 70bux used on my country's equivalent of craigslist. it measures 124dBA SNR on line out and 110dBA on headphone out. I figured that was all I would ever need

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there is also the STX 2, but it measures worse in independent tests, so it doesn't exist for me

gusty kiln
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Don't worry too much about measurements

pliant ridge
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lol yeah not right now much maybe some day 😅

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But why?

gusty kiln
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After like 96db of range, it's kinda meaningless

pliant ridge
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What would be the appropriate upgrade from a 560s if not the 800s?

smoky frigate
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that it is. but if I can get 124dbA cheap and right into my PC, I'll do it! 😄

gusty kiln
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Depends on what you want/like

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Gaming only, what music genre

pliant ridge
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Better 560s

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Similar clarity, imaging, sound stage type

gusty kiln
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Hifiman if you can trust the QC

pliant ridge
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Idc much for heavy bass and all that

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Bro just gave me a whole brand lol

gusty kiln
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Edition XS sounds about right

final flame
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800s has top notch imaging, but has a few issues in the frequency response
if you know how to eq/don't mind eq then it would be a good option

gusty kiln
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Arya is discounted to 999 atm as well

smoky frigate
#

I also need to ask. I like my music in high quality, but a lot of it sounds like it was recorded on a wheel of cheese. would a pair like the Susvara make an appreciable difference, considering I'm listening to shit?

gusty kiln
#

Kek prob not

final flame
#

I would reccomend focal if you can get over the shitty customer service and other issues
hifiman is a generally good option
audeze is good just needs eq

pliant ridge
#

Yeah I prefer the neutral sound signature

final flame
pliant ridge
#

That soundstage sounds disappointing. Otherwise not bad. I prefer neutral over “soulful” if that means bassy

void epoch
#

one of my gpu fans (1/3) works with max rpm when my gpu usage is %5 and 45 50 C how can i fix it

pliant ridge
#

Like not heavy bass and brighter highs. Present mids but overall not heavy in any freq

smoky frigate
#

I figure it's better to demonstrate than to describe

final flame
pliant ridge
#

I don’t like to fuck with EQ tho

#

another program to load every time ☠️

final flame
#

Personally I think the bass region looks fine

final flame
pliant ridge
#

I’ve EQ’d the 560s to match the oratory profile or whatever but just prefer stock

#

I just used peace/apo

gusty kiln
#

I think the dynamic contrast is kinda weak on the 800s

final flame
#

yea

gusty kiln
#

So the bass doesn't as hard

pliant ridge
#

Bass is overrated

gusty kiln
#

Bass quantity is over-rated

pliant ridge
#

Fair

gusty kiln
#

Bass quality is blobaww all the time

final flame
pliant ridge
#

Idc much about bass overall tho

#

560s makes me weep with joy

final flame
#

I like my focal clears bass, really punchy when it needs to be
in fact the bass rolls off a bit in the frequency response

gusty kiln
smoky frigate
#

apart from poor sound quality, also a lot of cases where mixing and mastering are badly done or straight-up absent. lack of quality can be charming though, and create impressive walls of sound at times. so if a pair of headphones sounds similar to being surrounded by really good speakers, I should theoretically still profit from the difference. what do you think? it depends on genre after all...

gusty kiln
#

A headphone with good technical capabilities will make those flaws sound worse

final flame
#

yep

smoky frigate
#

I see! my wallet will be happy then

final flame
#

out of my clears I can hear every flaw

#

the overall track sounds like it's been re encoded, or the microphone used was really bad

gusty kiln
#

Weeb music that was mastered with m50x

final flame
#

yea

#

overall there's nothing you can do to fix a badly mastered file

#

other than re recording your own

smoky frigate
#

my Meze 99 Classics make it sound rather pleasant, at least to my ears. maybe that's the type of headphone I should stick with then

final flame
#

well the 99s aren't well known for their detail, that much is sure

gusty kiln
#

6xx offers a similar experience

smoky frigate
#

though I suppose the question is less "will the headphones make this sound good", since it's obviously crap, but "will they do a better job of playing it than less expensive models"

final flame
#

once you start getting into stuff that is higher end, it will reveal all the flaws and nuances of the track
anywhere from low quality samples to just plain bad equalization

#

a good example I would say for this is the blue archive official soundtrack release and the game rip version

smoky frigate
#

yeah, okay. a lot of my music has flaws like this, of one kind or another. don't bother with high-end headphones then.

gusty kiln
#

I hope the new mqa owners don't try and push into tidal again

smoky frigate
#

what type or model would you recommend that makes crap more enjoyable? I like my 99s, but I'm willing to explore some new territory

#

first one is very harsh

gusty kiln
#

Budget,

#

?

smoky frigate
#

1200bux

pliant ridge
#

If he also has 560s make sure to compare them and let me know what you think havo blobaww

final flame
# smoky frigate first one is very harsh

the first one has a lot more detail and dynamic range
the 2nd one feels flat and dead, lacks details the first one has and the bass is flatter and less impactful

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not to mention just overall clarity

smoky frigate
#

I can only listen on my low grade speakers right now. I'm in the middle of a move, and my headphones are in the new place...

gusty kiln
final flame
#

yea

#

but still as they are better headphones they will have more detail

#

less revealing but still detailed enough to reveal

gusty kiln
#

Dan clark headphones are also very inoffensive

pliant ridge
#

lol fair

#

Impressive

gusty kiln
#

Lol how much to audition for the he1?

smoky frigate
#

guess which one is the CD version, and which one recorded from an LP. winner gets... to be correct 💪

smoky frigate
#

correct!

final flame
#

let's go, there was less bass in there

smoky frigate
final flame
#

lcd-2 would probably be your best bet

#

either that or the X

#

X's feel a lot lighter imo, but they need more eq

gusty kiln
#

Did you ever buy those speakers?

final flame
#

nah

#

oh right I never told anyone in this server I got let go from that job lol

gusty kiln
#

Oof

#

What happened

final flame
#

nothing that was in my control
a mix of bad communication ig, said it's not personal but then ghosted me after that

#

oh well I'll just buy everything from crutchfield

gusty kiln
#

Rip, hopefully you can get another job during college

#

Gotta pad that resume early

final flame
#

rn college is rough, I actually am planning to change my major, I want to do UI/UX design

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I think I'll like that a lot more

gusty kiln
#

What is it currently

final flame
#

Social media management

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I have written on my plan to Major in UI/UX then minor in general graphic design

gusty kiln
#

Hmm yeah, the other sounds more creative juice

gusty kiln
final flame
#

yea, the analytical part of social media management I don't like

gusty kiln
#

Kek

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Engagement metric goes brrrrrrrr

smoky frigate
#

huuh. wait a few more years, and I can get these for next to nothing

final flame
#

makes it harder for me but I'd rather not have my employers down my back

gusty kiln
gusty kiln
smoky frigate
#

apparently, this is a pair of Audeze LCD2 Fazor Series 54

#

definitely a lot of words!

gusty kiln
#

Yeah

#

I think pre-fazors are more desirable

final flame
#

they are

#

but the Fazor models are more consistent in Fr, so yea

gusty kiln
#

But should still have the audeze house sound

smoky frigate
#

I see. there is apparently an LCD 2 Classic series, that removes fazor elements to sound like the originals

#

I suppose this is "better" then

#

quotation marks very much needed

final flame
#

Jacona I have a idea in mind once the female 3.5 plugs go out on my clears
replace them with Lemo plugs

#

that'd be so damn cool

gusty kiln
#

Hmmmm interesting

final flame
#

just like the utopia has them

gusty kiln
#

40 a pop

#

Jeez

final flame
#

they're really durable connectors

gusty kiln
#

What's the advantage over mini xlr

final flame
#

easier to remove and plug in

#

to my knowledge you push into them to remove them

gusty kiln
#

Ahh

final flame
#

the new wooting cable uses them afaik too

gusty kiln
#

Kek, connect wooting to headphone

#

Daisy chain em

final flame
#

yep lemo connector

gusty kiln
#

Thicc

#

Lol might be a while unless you constantly plug/unplug

final flame
#

I'd really love to also get a focal clear mg that's broken

#

I want the side grills from it

#

the hexagon pattern

gusty kiln
#

Lol driver swap?

final flame
#

nah I don't want the drivers

#

just the grills

#

you can actually probably just remove the hexagon shape piece
to me when I was handling it felt just like a piece of plastic or thin aluminum placed on the mesh

gusty kiln
#

Maybe you could 3d print something similar

final flame
#

the clear mg uses a only magnesium plated driver
unlike the original clear which uses the aluminum magnesium plated driver

#

so it would change the sound performance

#

real shiny

gusty kiln
#

Would be cool if they do a refresh soon

#

Combine the best from the og and mg

final flame
#

the mg does look better with the grills, but I do prefer the sound of the og and the silver color on the og

gusty kiln
#

Focal Clear Ti

final flame
#

well this explains how focal drivers get so good dynamics lol

final flame
gusty kiln
final flame
#

yea

gusty kiln
#

Double edge sword for the tech

final flame
#

I'm not too sure if it's a issue on the utopia tho

#

maybe on the older one

#

idk about the 2022 one

gusty kiln
#

Utopia uses beryllium so I'm not sure

#

Unless it's purely because of the design

final flame
#

idk why but anytime I look at the older utopia I just think
soccer/football

#

that centerpiece just gives me those vibes lol

gusty kiln
#

Kek yeah

final flame
#

I still wish the utopia didn't have red in the centerpiece

gusty kiln
#

I think its alright

#

Kinda menacing look

final flame
#

weird design choice, doesn't matter once it's on the head

#

this thing also exists lol

gusty kiln
final flame
gusty kiln
final flame
#

this is just blinged out

gusty kiln
#

It's very gaudy and overdone

final flame
#

ye

#

although ig it makes sense, it was done by a jewler
and it makes even more sense considering focals lower end headphones already have a similar nice looking design as sennheisers 800s aniversary

gusty kiln
#

Wait wtf, why is intel down 5% today

#

Did their conference bombed?

#

Both nvidia/amd are down less than 1%

#

It is temptingn with the dividends

#

Play both sides so I always end up on top

#

Currently holding amd with an average around 40

#

I guess people "sold the news"

#

"Buy the rumours, sell the news"

fickle ore
#

such is life

ashen spindle
#

probably not enough ai, they didnt show RPL-R no efficency info on MTL

fickle ore
#

prob sell the news

marsh glade
#

Intel couldn't innovate its way out of a paper bag

fickle ore
#

algos think this is some big news event like quarter financials :p

ashen spindle
#

oh they did show the 288 core that was thought to be dead

#

but timeline.. puts that again Zen5c

#

so its a product but..

marsh glade
#

Oh apparently I've said that before 😂

ashen spindle
#

well one month is nothing in silicon timeline

#

end of 24 is the first sign of something new

gusty kiln
#

Intel does have a slight thunderbolt advantage

#

If you need a lot of that

fickle ore
#

Eh, intel was basically in lead for over 10 years and the last few years amd has had a much smaller lead. Places will switch again sometime.

fickle ore
#

like 1-2 %

#

I wouldnt get it for the divs

marsh glade
#

Intel built up a massive lead and was the clear winner for many years. Then they got fat and complacent a decade ago, and have been lurching forward into oblivion ever since

fickle ore
#

fabbing has too many costs involved so they cant start raising the dividend back to 5 % Jac

marsh glade
#

A single digit percentage dividend is meaningless if your equity cuts in half

gusty kiln
#

Seimens is another choice for div

#

Hmmm

fickle ore
#

You're thinking this in trader's days Mark

#

Investing is a longer game

marsh glade
#

Investing in a geriatric company is just silly...

fickle ore
#

I mean.. Have you looked at microsoft stock movement a while ago?

marsh glade
#

Microsoft at least tries to do something new and interesting

fickle ore
#

They went nearly 20 years and didnt reach AH from dotcom

#

until recently

#

Just swap timelines cmon

gusty kiln
#

Bruh, i should have invested in the company I work for

fickle ore
#

From 2001-2016 Msoft was geriatric

#

😄

gusty kiln
#

ATH this whole year

fickle ore
gusty kiln
#

I don't have any

#

Wish I bought some when I started working here

#

It's a pretty big company

cursive summit
#

199 for a.. CD player???

gusty nexus
hasty thunder
gusty nexus
#

yeah I know ? 😅

smoky frigate
#

the DAC bit can sound different depending on the model, I quite love the sound of the old PSX when playing CDs, even though it measures quite horribly

#

but yeah, expect mostly the same

gusty nexus
#

Really ?
I didn't know that 👀

gusty kiln
#

Moondrop with another planar headphone

coarse cloak
#

oh yeah para

gusty kiln
#

@final flame is this your pfp character?

frozen ingot
#

if they release a new decent quality cassette player I'd be down

reef patrol
#

Seems unlikely given how no tapes are produced.

frozen ingot
#

still boatloads in circulation

reef patrol
#

Circulation - But for how long.

#

And unlike CD's the material is important for quality.

#

And format...etc

frozen ingot
#

unopened properly stored tapes probably lasts longer than most CDs

#

you got disc rot happening to a lot of old CDs nowadays

reef patrol
#

Doesn't matter. CDs are still produced and can be burned by any computer. Can't do that with tapes in the same way

frozen ingot
#

we still have tape from the early 1900s that plays

marsh glade
#

My computer does not have a CD player

#

Hasn't for years

frozen ingot
#

we'll probably have cassettes around for quite a while longer

marsh glade
#

Granted, it also doesn't have a cassette player

frozen ingot
#

my old xp pc has a dvd burner in it mm

#

its IDE so can't put it in my current desktop pepecry havo

#

thought about getting a disc drive again, got a bunch of cds and other media I'd like to go through before its too late

#

if it isn't already

#

those were still quite common when I started using computers, but I didn't have one at home myself

#

floppies only

analog sinew
#

external cd drive and thats it

#

what case even fits one these days without an angle grinder

frozen ingot
#

my current case is from 2007 so it does

pale sigil
#

Whhoooo Scrap yard wars coming backj

frozen ingot
#

lian-li fullsize beast

#

was still kicking among the C64 crowd well into the early-mid 90s here

#

most popular use was as a gaming console here

#

very easy to pirate games on cassettes

#

never had a commodore myself tho, first home computer we had was atari st

#

doom was the first one I played

#

yeah I played it years later

#

on a mac of all things havo

#

one of those beige 90s macs

reef patrol
#

Grandma had one, handmedown from my Uncle at Apple. Definitely made visiting fun with the entire library of games there 😄

#

This predated that. OS7 I think?

final flame
reef patrol
#

Games like Simcity, Doom, Wolfenstein.

#

Prince of Persia 2 😄

frozen ingot
#

3dfx was mostly the way to go until geforce came along

smoky frigate
#

after some research and advice-seeking from other parties, I think I will go for the Monoprice M1070 instead of the Audeze LCD2, since they are of similar make and quality (allegedly from the same factory even), but the Monoprice will only set me back 200-ish bux on the used market, as opposed to the 700 for the LCD2

pliant ridge
#

Interesting

smoky frigate
#

Monoprice apparently made waves with the attractively priced, but highly criticized M1060, which were easily engoodened with some foam mods and pad replacements. The M1070 pretty much ship a M1060-modded sound. if what I'm reading is true

astral haven
#

oh dear microsoft

reef patrol
thick elk
#

Microsoft and AI is a gift that keeps on giving.

final flame
gusty kiln
#

Some vintage CD players also used R2R dacs

shadow minnow
#

I think my father found some in almost working order on a scrapyard, they let him take them dogekek

final flame
shadow minnow
#

Also fun project, any guesses what it does?
Its logic gates and wires you can see to clarify

gusty kiln
#

@final flame you know much on TWS with 2.4ghz connections?

crisp granite
final flame
gusty kiln
#

damn

final flame
#

sony's new playstation buds may have a dongle

#

but idk

gusty kiln
#

in the market for something like that for work Teams meeting and and casual on the go

shadow minnow
gusty kiln
#

I see JBL Quantum TWS and Soundcore VR P10 on amazon

#

just dunno if they actually sound good

steep creek
shadow minnow
#

Indeed. It’s part of a project that is actually a whole basic 8 bit cpu with a custom RISC instruction set

#

One day I’ll hopefully finish it, most of the complicated stuff if not all is actually done, just need to finish the rest at this point

final flame
#

cool

smoky frigate
steep creek
#

Yah I went through this procedure last semester it was a blast. Have fun, I’m sure you’re enjoying it

gusty kiln
#

The factory must grow pepesalute

#

🤖

smoky frigate
#

don't remind me, I just ripped myself free from its grasp

gusty kiln
#

kinda stopped playing after the rocket

#

needs more endgame goals

shadow minnow
steep creek
shadow minnow
steep creek
#

I’d tell you more but I think I would dox myself sorry haha, it’s in Norway though

shadow minnow
#

Oh cool, same thing I was and plan to apply to.

pale sigil
steep creek
#

Perhaps another day when I feel more risky

shadow minnow
steep creek
crisp granite
shadow minnow
#

The most steady thing is a computer everyone knows that

final flame
#

now there's no distinction of senior mod and helper

shadow minnow
gusty kiln
#

senior citizens now

#

old af

steep creek
young pecan
shadow minnow
young pecan
#

Pfff. Satisfactory has no challenge.

gusty kiln
shadow minnow
#

Tbf I definitely preferred game mechanics of factorio to satisfactory

young pecan
#

It’s literally just basic math and stringing a giant line of crap together. No actual challenge.

crisp granite
#

Bexin

final flame
young pecan
pale sigil
young pecan
#

Embrace RedPower.

gusty kiln
#

idk I have TFT brain rot, all I know is I must roll my gold

shadow minnow
shadow minnow
young pecan
#

Ngl tho Enigmatica 6 E2E very good. 👌

crisp granite
shadow minnow
#

No dw my computer is safe

crisp granite
shadow minnow
#

And steady, always here

young pecan
#

Can’t even begin to tell you how good MC is for working out legit irl deployments and redundancy.

#

That shit teaches you to have failover.

#

Failover or die.

wheat plume
#

Not to mention not being able to see comments if you aren't logged in

#

You can see the post the link you clicked on takes you to

astral haven
#

50% of the time lel

wheat plume
#

Oh hmm

gusty kiln
#

$3200

astral haven
#

why oh why

#

wait what???

#

yea well given intels software woes, lets just hope it doesnt skip rendering the actual content

#

real impressive stuff

#

lets see how well it works tho

#

surface pro 10?

#

I think the interesting part of the intel iodie is the LPE cores

#

ah sad tb4

#

no tb5 yet

#

y tho

#

thats what, not why

astral haven
#

pretty great 2 minute video on nerf

vagrant pagoda
#

why they took so long to release

pliant ridge
#

meteor lake will be sick

#

hopefully should see solid ddr5 platform improvements too

#

i'll be chilling tho lol

astral haven
#

6p10e could make for some really interesting ultra battery saving modes
Setting it to 2e only mode could probably get like 20 hours SOT for video

#

Hopefully panay didn't quit bc the surface pro 10 is so bad

ashen spindle
#

MTL igpu should be really neat, the rest nothing much, laptop only parts like tiger lake are alright but I find them kinda boring

loud ember
#

I love backdoors, I love backdoors, I love backdoors, I love backdoors, I love backdoors, I love backdoors, I love backdoors,

grim pasture
#

Sadly, Sweden was needed to vote down the proposal in EU with Germany, Austria, Netherlands and Poland

cursive summit
#

Gelsinger is pretty annoying

#

Isn't his background a hardware engineer? Cause the lad really loves yapping his mouth like a marketing genius

ashen spindle
#

He’s a ceo

cursive summit
#

A very vocal CEO

ashen spindle
#

If he talks hardware specs the board has him booted in minutes

#

The problem here is not pat but the question

#

Ofc they look at tiles and 3d stacking

#

But if you ask something stupidly generic you get a stupid generic answer

rough osprey
#

will be fun cooling a 13900k with 3d vcache

#

(although it would probably be lower clock and all then)

wheat plume
#

O.o

ashen spindle
#

User Discovers memory leak?

old marlin
#

absolute revelation

halcyon moss
#

Rust doesn't prevent you from loading the memory full Of stuff.

#

That's not what memory safety means

dire scaffold
#

Have not received my 60HE yet but am concerned about the reported requirements for voltage (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U8ojU_8ASVE) and the resulting inability (potential) to attach the 60HE to a USB switch (which I need to use the board for both business and private PCs without having to crawl under the table every time I switch over).
I wondered if anyone tried a Y Cable to supply voltage from an additional USB port?

#

Like this

reef patrol
#

KVM switches generally aren't an issue with power but whether or not they actually follow spec and properly forward ALL USB devices and protocols.

dire scaffold
#

Hubs often have a power option but switches usually don't (at least not as often)

#

I have a powered hub that I don't use currently and could attach the 60HE to the HUB (for power) and the Hub to the switch (for .. switchiness). But this does not sound like a good plan atm.

reef patrol
#

Again - The switch needs to properly pass on the data. It generally isn't a power issue 🙂

dire scaffold
#

Thx. Will just try and see what happens.

misty saffron
devout raptor
#

I got a 1440p monitor 2 days ago

#

its reallly nice

#

but i had a curved monitor so the switch to flat feels weird

gusty kiln
#

@final flame

final flame
#

lmao they even got the denons in there

#

m50xs

#

sheesh the 250 ohm ear killer

#

this is really cool
can't wait to see everything featured, both mics, iems and headphones

#

sennheiser mics I think

#

I love how detailed this strain relief is

old marlin
#

anime about igorrr recording sessions

final flame
#

foly time

gusty kiln
wheat plume
#

🤤

#

Gnome 45 is beautiful and so polished

#

They did take UI design from MacOS Monteray though xd

#

The full height sidebar

#

Good change, Plasma Discover recently added this feature too but it only shows up after you uninstall the app

smoky frigate
#

been running gnome 45 for weeks now and it is definitely the same but better

#

looking forward to when they finally decide to reimplement the system tray. that's pretty much the only feature that's missing 4 me. maybe they'll get there after... 15 years...

#

that said, things like font rendering in GTK 4 look a lot better recently. everything is crisp

wheat plume
#

Im glad they made such huge Mutter changes

#

Cursor gets its own thread now
fractional scaling on Wayland that is actually implemented properly

#

before 45, fractional scaling was basically a hack, it scaled to 200% behind the screens and then scaled down on the display

smoky frigate
#

oh I haven't noticed any of these! still on X11, but I always liked the way mutter on Wayland scales things. cursor getting its own thread is a smart as hell decision

#

I don't remember where I read it (I think in some ubuntu engineer's writeup), but it was claimed that Mutter shares the majority of code in the whole desktop environment (sans applications), and I totally believe that

wheat plume
#

It was funny, the channel called babyWOGUE used to demostrate the surge in CPU usage when spamming the cursor in circles really fast for like 20 seconds back in a few of his videos xd

#

so now that should not happen

#

or less anyway xd

smoky frigate
#

the polar opposite of win95 then

wheat plume
#

LOL

#

oh my

old marlin
#

reminds me

#

the file explorer in windows 11 becomes faster if you fullscreen it

#

you can window it again as well

#

just have to do it once

#

and it loads in the contents of a folder quicker

wheat plume
#

wtf

old marlin
#

yea something is wrong with it still

#

my one gripe with win 11

#

it sometimes randomly gives an explorer window focus

wheat plume
#

huh??

old marlin
#

yea idk

#

I just close all explorer windows after I don't need them anymore

#

mind you, not a thing that happens super frequently

#

like 1-2 times a week maybe

wheat plume
#

you saying if you have an explorere window open while doing other things, itll just randomly focus the explorer window?

smoky frigate
#

Nvidia cutting prices to better compete? The new AMD Radeon RX 7800 XT and 7700 XT show some impressive stuff from the new Navi 32 silicon... and the 7800 XT is competitively priced too. Rich has the lowdown on AMD's impressive specs and performance, but is it enough to counter Nvidia's cutting-edge new technologies?

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the turbo nerds at DF have gotten around to testing the new AMD cards

astral haven
#

and techpowerup screwed up testing the new cyberpunk update

ashen spindle
#

oh is that bug still not fixed lol

#

I remember at launch GN mention it wouldnt apply changes in menu till restart or so

astral haven
#

results are not promising for non 40 series cards tho lel

gusty nexus
astral haven
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heres at 1080p, that was at 4k

gusty nexus
astral haven
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nah

smoky frigate
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anti-optimized for your benchmarking pleasure

astral haven
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this is just pathtracing

gusty nexus
astral haven
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basically everything you can see is raytraced

gusty nexus
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that's why

astral haven
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but it shows how far behind radeon is on raytracing

gusty nexus
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😅

astral haven
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2080ti = 7900xtx in raw raytracing

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at least the 7900xtx beats the 3060 🤣

smoky frigate
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yeah that's kinda bad. not a big fan of RT, but it does make for nice shadows

astral haven
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PT makes alot nicer everything

ashen spindle
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and yet in metro exodus enhanced which was also RT only its not nearly that bad

astral haven
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neither cyberpunk nor exodus are rt only

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cyberpunk pushes it an incredible distance tho

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where exodus is only a few feet around the character

pale sigil
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Technically Exodus is

astral haven
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no

ashen spindle
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enahnded edition

pale sigil
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The other edition

astral haven
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yes im aware

ashen spindle
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enhanced edition

pale sigil
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Enhanced ye

astral haven
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neither are full rt

pale sigil
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I thought that what it's whole thing was

astral haven
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cyberpunk does more,

pale sigil
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Not half assed rt like the original version

ashen spindle
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still EE RTX does not hit nearly as hard on amd as CP does

astral haven
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again this is partial rt

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and only up to a certain distance

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cyberpunk will raytrace the entire inside of a building if you stand in the right spot

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exodus will raytrace certain lights

smoky frigate
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at the end of the day it's raster performance über alles for me, and AMD scored a slight edge over nv's midrange here, which is nice I suppose

pale sigil
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Are you sure you're not mixing up the base game

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With exodus enhanced

astral haven
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100%

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RTGI is not the same as what they did in cyberpunk

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rtgi raytraces from lights to geometry, then rasterizes the geometry, also allowing you to just give up after a certain distance

pale sigil
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I wonder how bad it'll run on my system lol

smoky frigate
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gonna get back into wow classic soon, let's see if I can get ray traced shadows to work on loonix since I now have a card that can crank 'em

astral haven
pale sigil
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Xd

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Either way no game ray trading has really interested me except for tomb raider

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Even then only because it ran pretty well on my 3080 and it's just better lighting

smoky frigate
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I was quite impressed by the quake 2 ray traced version

pale sigil
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Oh and I used reshade on half life and Halo xd

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That's about it

cursive summit
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Toggling the hotkey will first enable the status indicator of Anti-Lag+ (a white triangle), and then display latency in ms or number of frames.
To compare the difference between Anti-Lag+ and Anti-Lag, hold the DEL key. To compare the difference between Anti-Lag+ On and Off, hold the right CTRL key.
Use the ALT+SHIFT+F hotkey to monitor FPS when Anti-Lag or Anti-Lag+ is enabled in the game.

smoky frigate
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I always thought that game looked boring and shitty, RT made it visually interesting

cursive summit
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Some good changes from AMD's end

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@pale sigil Why you orange now brother

astral haven
cursive summit
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I knew your vacation wasn't going to last long, mate's back to his old tricks

pale sigil
smoky frigate
cursive summit
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Un-admin'chated havo

pale sigil
astral haven
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prior games were usually precomputed or 2.5d

smoky frigate
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sure but I still didn't like vanilla Q2 visually

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with RT it looks cool

gusty nexus
smoky frigate
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(I liked Q1's style for that matter)

smoky frigate
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remake made the gameplay a lot of fun

astral haven
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Found it @ashen spindle
This is what they were doing in Exodus

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This is the new insano cyberpunk mode

pale sigil
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Can I still disable rt

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On phantom

astral haven
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ofc

pale sigil
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Good

astral haven
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but it looks alot worse

pale sigil
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I want the game to run

astral haven
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btw the new dlss works alot better in the rt mode

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I havent seen much testing, but you should be able to get decent fps and quality in rt perf or even ultra perf if you have 4k

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3080 right?

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dlss 3.5 sounds great, natively supporting the rays from raytracing

reef patrol
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https://youtu.be/r4NL2e6jJ04?si=6YGPyISkDD_Fuh53&t=828

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old marlin
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@cursive summit

smoky frigate
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I didn't even notice that, I was blown away by the rest of it when the videos came out lol

cursive summit
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Indeed

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Universal platforms are a good idea

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Germans should have learned about standardization during that one war dogenek

old marlin
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eh

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the main thing why it is a good idea now is because the germany military is horribly funded

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with a lot of vehicles inoperable because there are no replacement parts

smoky frigate
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holy smokes the last one looks ghetto