It’s not a total sync every time, it used incremental sync.
#🔌│tech
shadow minnow
Yes but basically for me the most convenient way is total sync to then move it to hard drive and delete on both
young pecan
Or, and hear me out here, just do an incremental sync directly to the hard drive and skip the needing to move anything around.
shadow minnow
Or well I always use import to MacBook with delete after import
shadow minnow
Or, and hear me out here, just do an incremental sync directly to the hard drive...
I don’t have a way to keep it connected.
And basically my phone is always full so I need the photos to be deleted after they’re moved to the computer
young pecan
Wait what capacity do you have?
Also as for the keeping it connected thing? Failover RasPi with an iTunes install connected to 2 drives in a RAID1. I use a few of them and they’re pretty good for a solid budget backup server.
shadow minnow
256gb, I fill it up pretty fast somehow
young pecan
Taking video or something?
shadow minnow
I think most I did was 900 a day 
But that was a lot of testing the camera when the phone was new
young pecan
I have but one question.
If you take so many photos why not travel with an actual camera.
shadow minnow
Sometimes I do but not too often
young pecan
Riiiiight.
Well that makes it a little more complex.
Unsure if you can do it on a Mac, but on windows you can make a funny script to transfer and delete photos from your phone with sync.
Needs to be connected to wifi, though.
Like the whole time. But since iTunes can pick it up it works.
young pecan
Yeah. Usually I’d be more annoyed about it but this thing is just a 14 Pro Max but better and that’s what I want out of an actual smartphone.
shadow minnow
Unsure if you can do it on a Mac, but on windows you can make a funny script to ...
Oh hmm I wonder if game porting toolkit would allow that lmao
But usually I just use the slower cable option as iTunes have delete after import option, issue is when transfer fails in middle and photos don’t get deleted haha
Honestly I wish the telephoto was 48mp
Ultrawide doesn’t matter as much as 1x is 48mp
young pecan
Oh hmm I wonder if game porting toolkit would allow that lmao
But usually I just...
Maybe, not sure.
I know iTunes has the functionality though. Could maybe try finding a GitHub project for it.
fair oasis
Apple: "A whole brand new desging"
wheat plume
The radio goes all static-y when I plug in my laptop....wtf??
im in the same room as it, and I plugged the charger into my laptop and now the radio is playing static underneath the actual sound from the radio station
reef patrol
Welcome to electromagnetic interference.
old marlin
analog stuff be like
steep creek
I’ve only had to connect my phone to the computer a handful of times, but it was enough to notice how slow it is, compared to my iPad with usb c. I’d say it’s good to have fast transfer speeds than not, even when not using it often
cursive summit
Hmm
Apple cramming Raytracing into an iPhone to play Resident Evil 4, Death Stranding and AC Mirage on a tiny ass phone
Kinda speaks in a way about Nintendo potentially cramming Raytracing into Switch 2
Switch 2 might be rather exciting
shadow minnow
im in the same room as it, and I plugged the charger into my laptop and now the ...
That sounds like the charger woudlnt meet some EMI standards
ashen spindle
Kinda speaks in a way about Nintendo potentially cramming Raytracing into Switch...
Hahahah no
ashen spindle
Even older chips can do raytracing that part isn’t new
But Nintendo isn’t going with anything close to the power of an a17
Downclocked SS8 chip vs N3 chip isn’t very close in performance
cursive summit
SS8?
ashen spindle
Samsung
cursive summit
Samsung
Fair enough, seems Orins are all made on 8nm samsung node, that Nvidia already ditched cause it wasn't great
ashen spindle
It’s cheap and works it’s just like 2.5 nodes behind N3
cursive summit
But where the perf I think will matter most is the GPU chip, I don't believe 6 cores of Apple will compare in any way to Ampere
Especially if we are talking like something akin to 2000 CUDA cores
ashen spindle
Fully depends on clocks and powerdraw
shadow minnow
I just realized the non max pro telephoto doesn’t have 5x zoom
But also the color of blue is really similar to pacific blue on 12 pro max
steep creek
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ec56a8wmfRk
this is cool, thanks for sharing
crisp granite
Apple cramming Raytracing into an iPhone to play Resident Evil 4, Death Strandin...
Maybe in the very distant future
Not today
Not any time soon
anyway
@ashen spindle
Deckard copium, svp
ashen spindle
Current copium is still that they show it during meta connect this month
cursive summit
Well, supposedly Deckard is going to be announced extremely shortly
crisp granite
the sooner it launches, the sooner I can really enjoy a bunch of games in my steam library
vagrant pagoda
I think valve is holding deckard until after switch 2
vagrant pagoda
Both gaming hardware
Valve wants mass market appeal for its hardware
Anyone in this chat that might buy a deckard dosent care about the news around it
They don't want to announce it
cursive summit
Ehh, I don't think Valve has much interest in Switch 2
vagrant pagoda
And 2 days later get buried
cursive summit
But there is that little rumour that Nintendo is looking into VR
ashen spindle
I don’t think people would consider a 400$ switch vs a idk 1500 vr headset the same news area
cursive summit
Valve doesn't really care for competition much I don't think
They have the money to fund whatever they want
vagrant pagoda
Really really doubt 1500
Valves pricing has always been solid
I'd be surprised if it's much more than index
ashen spindle
Could be less but it’s still premium tier and not close to a quest
thick elk
Nintendo has been interested in steoscopic 3d since the 90's So I would not count them going vr out.
Still I don't think Valve cares about it that much to wait for it.
vagrant pagoda
If the index doesn't drop price and deckard replace jt
ashen spindle
And they announced Index during metas quest announcement so I doubt they wait for a switch
Index likely ceases production after deckard comes
vagrant pagoda
Doubt
reef patrol
I don't even... how.
vagrant pagoda
Valve has sold every other product into the ground
reef patrol
Apple has just gone off the deep end.
vagrant pagoda
I mean battery is what 10wh?
vagrant pagoda
Yes but none of them compete with iPhones duh
ashen spindle
None of them invented usbc smh
reef patrol
crimson wigeon
Since always
rough osprey
so airpods do have lossless support now / soon
wheat plume
Since always
hhmm
wheat plume
o.o
Apple: You are just holding it wrong
:')
.....
how tf you put an rtx 4090 in here??
AND watercool the entire system
reef patrol
Maybe watch the video and see?
wheat plume
cursive summit
Maybe watch the video and see?
I mean, that's not Lana's strong suit
reef patrol
cursive summit
ITX cases can be extremely compact
wheat plume
Ive never seen this channel before, he is borrowing a Mac Studio to compare it to this PC
cursive summit
But holy hell are they annoying to build
wheat plume
cursive summit
I'd say, takes around 10x more pain and effort to build in ITX than proper ATX tower
wheat plume
yeh
cursive summit
More effort, more things to consider
wheat plume
he got all custom cables and pipes and whatnot
raw zephyr
no
cursive summit
I did built an ITX PC just a week ago
And stuffed it into my 17.3" laptop backpack
Didn't leave much space for anything else but cables
But yeah they are easily transportable
wheat plume
7 grand Mac Studio VS 5.5 Grand custom PC
reef patrol
Great. Now show anything GPU based.
cursive summit
Lana
reef patrol
wheat plume
hes getting to that
reef patrol
hes getting to that
So watch the video and finish it. We really, really don't need a play by play.
wheat plume
cursive summit
Oh wait, it sucks against Threadrippers 
wheat plume
XD
raw zephyr
who would've guessed
wheat plume
ikr!!!!!
cursive summit
So I was going to check the prices for a Threadripper 5995WX
Pricing error? 
I wish I had the cash for that to resell it for 2x more
steep creek
hah that is ridicilously cheap, they go for 6000 euros here lol
the cheapest one i could find
gotta be a pricing error
cursive summit
This is, they prolly would have to honour it
Or cancel
I don't have the cash, someone have 2 grand?
Sell for 5 grand, I'll give back 3 grand, and keep 2 in return
steep creek
if you click on the site does it still display that price, sometimes these price compare sites are incorrect
cursive summit
if you click on the site does it still display that price, sometimes these price...
It's a legit listing
steep creek
dang
cursive summit
A real seller I've bought from before, same price and product
steep creek
then yeah i suppose they would have to honor it, must be a costly mistake though haha
cursive summit
Anyone want free money?
I don't have that much sadly
Ah yeah here's what I was looking for https://www.tomshardware.com/news/apple-m2-ultra-geekbenched
So much for their top of the line
Performs well but falls short
halcyon willow
how tf you put an rtx 4090 in here??
lana try not to be clueless challenge - (impossible difficulty)
cursive summit
yeh but they are massive
Have you ever checked where the whole massive part comes from?
4090 is thick
But it's not long
Radeon cards are a lot longer
Which for ITX is actually far worse
wheat plume
hhmm
cursive summit
ITX has the depth, but not the length
A lot of cases can fit a 4090
Radeon cards are a bit more finnicky
Although it seems for Radeon 7000 they managed to make the cards a bit shorter than 6000 series
Cause holy hell were 6000 series Radeons long
steep creek
i know its not viable but if it were, i'd prefer all air cooled 4090 itx build lol
cursive summit
i know its not viable but if it were, i'd prefer all air cooled 4090 itx build l...
Perfectly viable
halcyon willow
i know its not viable but if it were, i'd prefer all air cooled 4090 itx build l...
worth
what Vexxsie said
steep creek
you'd lose some performance though no?
steep creek
aha cool
cursive summit
you'd lose some performance though no?
Not really tbf
Mesh cases easily went the GPU
CPUs tend to get really hot though
steep creek
how small of a case are we talking about, comparable to the one in the video above?
cursive summit
That's where liquid comes in usually
cursive summit
how small of a case are we talking about, comparable to the one in the video abo...
Idk you can easily mount a 4090 in a 14l
Can go below that, maybe even to a 10l
steep creek
i havent seen a 4090 card in person but from the pictures it looks massive, i'd assume by removing the fans it would throttle quicker
cursive summit
Fractal Terra mounts a 4090 and that's a 10.4l case
steep creek
thats quite nice
halcyon willow
how small of a case are we talking about, comparable to the one in the video abo...
I can mount in mine which is 9.5L
aka Formd T1 V1.1
halcyon willow
preferably sandwich layout
cursive summit
But can mount a full size 4090, a beefy X3D of latest generation
And also a liquid cooler 280mm radiator
In a tiny backpack package
steep creek
yeah it makes sense now, i have been looking at these different cases, sandwich style probably fits way better
cursive summit
Sandwich is the way to go
empty wren
cursive summit
Yay welcome Cruella
empty wren
So basically lightning speeds....
reef patrol
Hi internet explorer.
cursive summit
You are even slower than Lana this time
cursive summit
Technically not tech talk, but this is funny
https://www.reddit.com/r/pcmasterrace/comments/16hlash/me_checking_my_pc_cooling_for_cyberpunk_2077/
halcyon willow
yeah it makes sense now, i have been looking at these different cases, sandwich ...
reference for cpu cooling
empty wren
USB2 unless you grab the modt expensive model, and shitty 20W charging
Still better than 5w power brick from before
halcyon willow
putting the keyboard cable UNDER the keyboard
those are the cables for his IEMs...
empty wren
People used iPad chargers because they fast charged lol
halcyon willow
no wonder i have this lady blocked
reef patrol
Still better than 5w power brick from before
My current phone charges at 65W, which is not a lot given flagships now.
empty wren
Is it dual batteries
empty wren
My current phone charges at 65W, which is not a lot given flagships now.
Yeah some doing 120w ez
reef patrol
It is utterly insane to be charging iPhone prices for old tech
empty wren
Perhaps
But watch battery degrade rapidly
Unless they do a dual battery trick
And charge each battery at half the speed but the same time which adds more complexity and costs
steep creek
reference for cpu cooling
yep
reef patrol
But watch battery degrade rapidly
Who said anything about watches?
empty wren
Actually that is interesting you bring that up
Wonder how those hold up since those have apple chips too which are quite powerful
But I meant faster charging usually means battery cycled harder
Of course some companies also started to do the conversion in the brick to reduce heat instead of convert in the phone hence partially why bricks are big.
reef patrol
But I meant faster charging usually means battery cycled harder
I'll take having to swap an battery every few years over spending more than twice as long to charge my phone.
Can't beat that 15-20 min full charge.
empty wren
I too would also like having a full charge in 48min
Probably would need to go with a name brand phone then though unless the OEM can sell a person the battery, cuz I have some battery swaps to family phones before and I am pretty sure I saw resistors in place of thermalcouples
Ifixit might actually have decent parts though
raw zephyr
25g wireless mouse....
thick elk
could probably have been made lighter, is not really useful as is
halcyon willow
wheat plume
the only issue I have with it, its PCB and wireless tech is Razer
so it requires Razer software running on your computer to work and configure .-.
raw zephyr
what
halcyon willow
bro...
wheat plume
hes using the Razer Viper PCB
halcyon willow
we knew lol
raw zephyr
aren't you on linux anyways?
wheat plume
they dont work very reliably...
wheat plume
didnt detect the mouse I plugged in
wheat plume
You cant, it doesnt have onboard memory
halcyon willow
all it needs is the 4k
rough osprey
the v2pro has
thick elk
Not having on board memory kind of sucks, still if you are using a mouse like that, I don't think you care much about the software experience.
halcyon willow
Not having on board memory kind of sucks, still if you are using a mouse like th...
Finally, someone that is somewhat smart
wheat plume
the only razer product I have doesnt require the software cause its just a speaker so any EQ software will be fine with it
which is fine with me xd
halcyon willow
Are you doing this on purpose, or?
raw zephyr
xd
halcyon willow
be honest with us
wheat plume
nah, im just a braindead moron who has no life cause shes too poor and self concious
with an extra layer of crippling anxiety and depression
rough osprey
:/
wheat plume
not wrong
halcyon willow
with an extra layer of crippling anxiety and depression
Thank you for admitting the truth. It shall set you free.
wheat plume
nah, I always saidthat about myself
what I said there, I have always said in the past
still do
always will
halcyon willow
I just needed to confirm
rough osprey
das not good
wheat plume
das not good indeed
all the anxiety goes away if im not alone
but on my own, I can barely go into a shop
wheat plume
Hell sounds like a fun place, leave all the stuck up, self-righteous religion nutcases in Heaven away from the fun people
rough osprey
blackwidow was the goat tho
hasty thunder
Hell sounds like a fun place, leave all the stuck up, self-righteous religion nu...
nah, self-righteous religion freaks are my favorites for torture fun time
wheat plume
Fair
hasty thunder
fuckers think they did everything right and yet ended up in hell anyways
wheat plume
LOL TRUE YEAH
probably cause they worn clothes made with mixed fabric
or worked on Sundays
or werent kind to people
hasty thunder
nah, they're mostly here due to their arrogance
rough osprey
i only believe in wooting
wheat plume
Wooting is my cult
wheat plume
XD
ashen spindle
gusty kiln
Yo what's up with the whole unity thing?
reef patrol
They threatened with changing their licensing fees.
Like charging studios 20 cents every time one of their games would be installed.
On Gamepass as well, causing a hell of a lot of panic and backlash
halcyon willow
just make a bot to install and uninstall a game from
your least favorite developer
gusty kiln
Like charging studios 20 cents every time one of their games would be installed.
Oof, retroactively too
Sounds similar to the reddit api situation
ashen spindle
it will change a lot before it goes into action question is how much
thick elk
As it stands it's very much biased towards games with less revenue per install (mobile games) suffering more and titles with a larger price being less effected.
astral haven
but its also a case of "im altering the deal pray i dont alter it any further"
and people already dont like the alteration
thick elk
This is pretty much standard fair, once a company stops growing they often start looking for means to extract more money from their existing customer base.
astral haven
fare not fair
thick elk
Not gonna edit this, but that's just my tired dyslectic brain typing the wrong word.
astral haven
yea i dont disagree with the fact that this bs keeps happening, doesnt make me happy about it
i am pretty happy with the iphone
tho the rumors that the 15 would use the 14 pro main camera are now proven wrong unfortunately, seems its officially a much smaller sensor
ashen spindle
if we ignore price and just look at the pro sure
60hz usb2 on base is a joke
the rest is fine
astral haven
oh yea gotta ignore price since its apple
we pay around $400 total for the current "midrange" iphone, and at that price its pretty reasonable
vagrant pagoda
Usb2 is dumb buttttt
ashen spindle
there is no but
astral haven
its just dumb
vagrant pagoda
Apple has good over wifi transfers
ashen spindle
dont care
astral haven
no they dont
vagrant pagoda
Way better than androids
astral haven
wrong
ashen spindle
doesnt help if you dont have a way to transfer via wifi
and its not like usb3 would even cost them more
astral haven
it just doesnt exist yet
vagrant pagoda
Huh
Air drop exists for years
And is as fast as the wifi chip is
You can get gbit speeds
astral haven
if you take the list of all computers that are in the world that are connected to a network, and add 1 if it can at all receive data directly from an iphone through any means at all and subtract 1 otherwise, you end up with a negative number
vagrant pagoda
doesnt help if you dont have a way to transfer via wifi
Air drop is almost seamless if you have apple shit
astral haven
and you end up with a negative number in the billions
vagrant pagoda
Wtf are you talking about
astral haven
so on my desk i have 25 computers
out of those computers, how many can receive airdrop transfers?
vagrant pagoda
Yeah but apple doesn't give a fuck if you're not all in XD
thick elk
I will add that on android I also hardly ever use usb to transfter files, but MTP being a pile of garbage certainly doesn't help.
That being said there are more things you can do with higher transfer speed than just transfering files
ashen spindle
yeah but I dont care what apple thinks, usb2 is just dumb
vagrant pagoda
If they could make iPhones explode when plugged into PCs and get away with it, they would
astral haven
If they could make iPhones explode when plugged into PCs and get away with it, t...
arent wrong, still doesnt make it easy to airdrop
vagrant pagoda
You're use case isn't what apple designed for
ashen spindle
what is the use case that only the pro version can do then
vagrant pagoda
why does the pro have usb3 then
Same as iPad pro, SD card transfers from camera
thick elk
It could very well be a technical limitation of recycling the a16 which was designed for iphones using lightning which doesn't support more than usb2 anyway.
ashen spindle
Same as iPad pro, SD card transfers from camera
and the base iphone doesnt have a camera?
thick elk
The problem is of course that they recycled the soc at that point but still.
vagrant pagoda
and the base iphone doesnt have a camera?
From a camera's sd to your phone silly
Just like the iPad pro
ashen spindle
so the base iphone doesnt have a screen then or why would I not want them on my phone
vagrant pagoda
It's why the pro got USBC
vagrant pagoda
so the base iphone doesnt have a screen then or why would I not want them on my ...
What is pro short for?
ashen spindle
nothing in marketing
vagrant pagoda
They have a 2.0 speed lightning reader for the non pro ipad
The pro got USBC 3.0 for the SD card reader mainly
ashen spindle
them being consistent and making up some reason for it is irrelevant to it being dumb
vagrant pagoda
Just think about it from Apple's point of view not your
If you're not a professional you probably don't have a DSLR and you take pictures with your phone
astral haven
but im not apple?
ashen spindle
that doesnt change the outcome
vagrant pagoda
So you can just send the pictures from your phone to your desktop with airdrop
ashen spindle
they know people could make use of it and it wouldnt cost them more
vagrant pagoda
If you're a professional and you have a DSLR you can load the pictures onto your iPhone or iPad pro and then send them to your desktop with airdrop
astral haven
So you can just send the pictures from your phone to your desktop with airdrop
but i literally cant
ashen spindle
its market segmentation to make more money
vagrant pagoda
***but i literally cant***
Can if you use apple
ashen spindle
next gen the base will get an upgrade to amazing usb3 speeds as selling point
astral haven
Can if you use apple
that statement is false
vagrant pagoda
vagrant pagoda
that statement is false
How so
astral haven
not only do i have to use apple, i have to use another apple
if i only use 1 apple theres no airdrop
vagrant pagoda
not only do i have to use apple, i have to use another apple
If you would actually read what I'm saying I said look at it from Apple's point of view
And you keep going back to yours
astral haven
ion
vagrant pagoda
The point of view they give zero fucks about
astral haven
theres nothing point of view in the statement you made
if theres 1 apple device, airdrop does not function
you need a minimum of 2
vagrant pagoda
Just think about it from Apple's point of view not your
Definitely didn't mention apples point of view
astral haven
from apples point of view you still need 2 devices
vagrant pagoda
Exactly that's what they want to sell you
astral haven
from apples point of view its a way to force you to buy a second apple
vagrant pagoda
Which is what they deaign their devices for
astral haven
buuuut heres the problem
vagrant pagoda
Which is why they do their segmentation like that
astral haven
apple doesnt make devices for all the workloads
vagrant pagoda
Wow it's almost like you're not the target market for what they make
astral haven
my camera for example connects to wifi and the photos just start to appear on my computer on its own
I could have set it up the same way for my phone, but i chose instead to use cloud storage
however I cant use apples cloud storage because its literally not available with enough capacity
vagrant pagoda
Exactly you're not using their ecosystem lol
They designed the system to work a one-way and that's the way it's all built
Apple devices are not Swiss army knives
astral haven
🤷 that doesnt make it magically start functioning for my usecases
vagrant pagoda
I never said it did
Said you're not the target market
They will never make something that works for you
Because you're not using their full stack
astral haven
Apple has good over wifi transfers
then this statement is false
vagrant pagoda
Yes because Apple's transfers work great between apples devices which is the only thing that they designed for
astral haven
but the statement is still false
vagrant pagoda
The fact that you are not willing to buy into their ecosystem completely doesn't mean it doesn't work
astral haven
ion
it doesnt work
it doesnt matter how much you justify it not working because in a special scenario it works
astral haven
no?
vagrant pagoda
You just said because airdrop doesn't work between a non-apple device and an Apple device that it doesn't work at all
astral haven
thats not what i said
vagrant pagoda
So by that definition no Wi-Fi transfer works because there's no way to get it on my PDP 11
astral haven
So by that definition no Wi-Fi transfer works because there's no way to get it o...
thats also not true btw
vagrant pagoda
Air drop works amazing if you have apple devices
Just because you don't have them dosent mean it doesn't work
astral haven
that is a statement of opinion, however its also still debateable
vagrant pagoda
Not an opinion it factually works and it works fast and it works consistently
astral haven
however the statement that apple has wifi transfer that works is incorrect in the mean
sure
but also nearby share isnt the only option
there are options with android to interface with anything
vagrant pagoda
Exactly
vagrant pagoda
I'm not saying that Android share doesn't exist
Saying when Apple was designing the non-profone speed of the USB transfer was not a problem because airdrop exists
astral haven
thats not true for the average cloud storage
vagrant pagoda
If your device is close enough to plug in you can airdrop it to your iMac or iPad or MacBook
astral haven
If your device is close enough to plug in you can airdrop it to your iMac or iPa...
that is the first verifiably true statement youve said this conversation
i also agree that when airdrop works, it works faster than the average US upload speed
vagrant pagoda
Will iPhone even shoot to an external drive?
vagrant pagoda
i also agree that when airdrop works, it works faster than the average US upload...
Airdrop works faster than most phones can do over USB 3
astral haven
not true any more
astral haven
Airdrop works faster than most phones can do over USB 3
thats also not true
steep creek
sorry unrelated, i just wanted to ask how much memory does your mac have? trying to decide myself whats best to go with lol
vagrant pagoda
thats also not true
Source, last one I tried as a s22 and it could barely do 1gbit
wheat plume
im actually shocked Apple added USB C to their phones outside the EU
astral haven
Source, last one I tried as a s22 and it could barely do 1gbit
and airdrop takes about 2 minutes to transfer a 100MB file
wheat plume
like how they removed the SIM Tray in US but kept it every where else, they could have done the same with the USB C port within EU
vagrant pagoda
and airdrop takes about 2 minutes to transfer a 100MB file
Not in my experience
steep creek
ah great thats the one i was looking at as well for 14". and you havent encountered any performance issues?
astral haven
Not in my experience
🪞
astral haven
and what percentage of airdrop transfers are that
vagrant pagoda
Almost all of them?
astral haven
how could that possibly be true
vagrant pagoda
He uses it to transfer his drone footage to it all the time
steep creek
fantastic thats reassuring, i was worried i'd run into issues with school work. thank you
astral haven
Almost all of them?
apple silicon makes up for less than 50% of macs, and iphone market share of the more modern iphones is pitiful
vagrant pagoda
Again that has nothing to do with how apple designs products
steep creek
hahah i see
vagrant pagoda
So it has zero bearing on their phone having slow USB speed on the lower end phones
astral haven
Again that has nothing to do with how apple designs products
If apple is intentionally making the thing not function, it still doesnt function and saying that it functions is false
now if you add all the qualifiers you need to make it function, you can make it a true statement
and if the statement is true in the mean case, then sure do what you want
vagrant pagoda
If apple is intentionally making the thing not function, it still doesnt functio...
The qualifier only ever is how Apple designs their product
They design it to work with their products
astral haven
The qualifier only ever is how Apple designs their product
we shouldnt just accept that and allow them to state that when its not true in the mean
vagrant pagoda
we shouldnt just accept that and allow them to state that when its not true in t...
What isnt true about thst
astral haven
What isnt true about thst
thats why we force them to put the microfiche at the bottom of their slides
vagrant pagoda
?
steep creek
i will take note of that, i usually have a lot of tabs open. i'd like to save as much memory as possible for programs i use for school
astral haven
?
they arent allowed to state claims that arent true without all the qualifiers that make them true
astral haven
🤷 projecting
vagrant pagoda
How so
astral haven
Find a statement of opinion
astral haven
2 completely separate conversations at the same time lel
cursive summit
Ah, cute
steep creek
fun stuff hah
cursive summit
I was about to ask who the hell is vibe
steep creek
no idea
astral haven
discord confirms, and they have been around alot
steep creek
aha right, i joined but i didnt buy a keyboard until june ish of this year, but didnt start talking until like a month or 2 ago
steep creek
no the keyboard i had just decided to fix itself, so i kept using it lol
then it started double typing again and i could not be bothered as there were a lot of assignments to do
vagrant pagoda
Lol
astral haven
Find a statement of opinion
👀
really?
what part?
you mean non russian spyware 😛
FR tho that seems like it should happen all the time?
vagrant pagoda
"first known case"
very important part
no highlevel russian is going to admit publicly they had western spyware on thier phone
astral haven
ah fair enough
vagrant pagoda
thats how you end up juming out a window
astral haven
right 😉
https://www.anandtech.com/show/20053/western-digital-unveils-wd_black-sn770m-m22230-ssd-for-consoles
Sweet, seems the sn740 is getting a retail version!
vagrant pagoda
speced lower isnt it?
thought the speced iops on the 740 was higher?
but way higher endurance
but they went from 512,1024,2048 to 500,1000,2000
vagrant pagoda
how i had read and write mixed up
io though the 740 was 800k
theya re 800k write
cuz of slc cache
astral haven
yea looks like its just endurance and a little lower capacity
i would suspect that tradeoff is purely firmware
young pecan
no highlevel russian is going to admit publicly they had western spyware on thie...
I mean the US did mention they know where Putin is 24 hours of the day and they have for years. That doesn’t happen without some pretty deep feelers so I’m doubting this is the only quasi confirmed case. 
astral haven
sure but that doesnt require phone spyware
the reason that hubble didnt work properly originally was that it was shaped to focus a specific distance tha happened to be similar to the distance from some "mysterious" satellites to earth
vagrant pagoda
thats not why the mirro was bad
it was made in the same factory as keyhole but not the same optic
the mirror is out on nm scale
astral haven
pretty sure the story was they were given a mirror
vagrant pagoda
they were told a mirror could be made
in the 70s
and nasa ordered 2
they didnt get told WHY the mirror could be made
hubble was built around the mirror
nasa wanted a 3m mirror telescope
but the 2.4 was basicly cost of materials kind of thing
astral haven
sure
vagrant pagoda
but the grind would be different and has nothing to do with hubbles defect
and the only issue with the defect is they just had to grind the secondary replament optics to counter act it
the fun part
is going to be starship size mirrors
the roman space telescope has actual keyhole mirrors
it will be "wide" fov for a telescope
but make up for it with its sensors
astral haven
im pretty sure i remember an optics researcher doing the math and finding out that the "defect" corresponded with the difference between 250km focus distance and infinity
vagrant pagoda
im pretty sure i remember an optics researcher doing the math and finding out th...
nah
but roman has an actual nos keyhole
as misty has new mirrors
astral haven
hubble is also longer than roman
vagrant pagoda
also the reason keyhole and misty are 2.6m mirros is so the entire unit fits in the shuttle
they both have 2.6m mirrors
vagrant pagoda
hubbles focal length is longer because the mirror is different
astral haven
nope
the mirror can be the same size regardless of focal length
and the differences in mirror between different focal lengths are nanoscopic
vagrant pagoda
yeah and the center 80% of hubbles is perfect
astral haven
remember primary vs secondary mirrors
vagrant pagoda
its the outer edge that is off
astral haven
welcome to aspherics
vagrant pagoda
but either way
hubble isnt keyhole mirror
its why the field of view is wider
in the roman
f/8 vs f/24
massive difference in field of view
astral haven
ion do you own a teleconverter?
vagrant pagoda
yeah i know how optics work
they darken the image as they are just magnifinig the exisiting image
light isnt free
astral haven
yes
vagrant pagoda
if you took roman
and made the optics have the same fov as hubble
youd have 1/8th or less the light
as youd only be using part of the main mirror
astral haven
wrong
vagrant pagoda
right
vagrant pagoda
so if you take to lenses one wide angle, one telephoto, then stack some teleconcverters under the wide angle
which will have more light
if they have the same size first lense
vagrant pagoda
no it is
the both have FIXED mirror size
so the first lense is fixed in size
even though one is wider angle
astral haven
the both have FIXED mirror size
ignore mirrors, mirrors are confusing you
astral haven
yes but thinking about mirrors is confusing you
vagrant pagoda
no
astral haven
if they have the same size first lense
so why would you say this?
vagrant pagoda
because it matters how much light comes in
astral haven
ratio of input to output aperture
now where in the equasion for that does it state the size of the lens?
vagrant pagoda
and what is the maxium size of a aperture
astral haven
a concept that is confusing you
vagrant pagoda
just anwser it
astral haven
for hubble (and all other keystones) it is 2.4 meters
however this is actually wrong
vagrant pagoda
what dictates the maxium aperture size
astral haven
since this is only the upper limit on the input aperture
astral haven
what dictates the maxium aperture size
nothing
apertures are independent variables
vagrant pagoda
if the aperture is larger than the input lense, will more light get in?
astral haven
if the aperture is larger than the input lense, will more light get in?
more proof of misconception
vagrant pagoda
yes or no
astral haven
no
vagrant pagoda
so
astral haven
if the aperture is larger than the input lense, will more light get in?
but if the output aperture is larger than the input aperture, will the density of light be higher?
vagrant pagoda
the maxium limit of a lenses light is dictated by in input lense
astral haven
the maxium limit of a lenses light is dictated by in input lense
yes and how does that relate to f stop?
this is an insanely hard concept to grasp, i struggled with it for well over a year before coming to terms with it
your mind has fixed another factor that you are completely forgetting about that for a telescope is completely variable
final flame
@gusty kiln elex is 200$ off
vagrant pagoda
yes but as you zoom in with a wide angle lense you loose resoultiuon as you have less light in the narrower fov
astral haven
yes but as you zoom in with a wide angle lense you loose resoultiuon as you have...
Wrong
think about what variables you have fixed with that statement
vagrant pagoda
how do you get more light in the narrower fov section of a wide angle telescope
explain please
and we can share the noble prize
astral haven
and how does less light pass through?
vagrant pagoda
same light, but as you zoom in one a wide angle primary element you get less light
astral haven
wrong
for photography this is generally the case, but theres a fixed factor for photography that is not fixed when building an optical system
astral haven
ratio of input to output aperture
go back here
vagrant pagoda
you cant change the fov of the primary element without changing it
so the only way to narrow the fov is to crop/zoom the image from the primary
astral haven
ion
astral haven
do you know what the output aperture is?
vagrant pagoda
yes
astral haven
what is it for hubble?
gusty kiln
<@140241126694191104> elex is 200$ off
Ooo, but I'm willing to go Kilobuck
Heddphone 2 looks interesting
vagrant pagoda
that has nothing to do with what im talking about
astral haven
that has nothing to do with what im talking about
why not?
its literally one of 2 variables in F stop
vagrant pagoda
it dosent change the fov
astral haven
does a teleconverter change the fov?
vagrant pagoda
yes
astral haven
so next
dont think about the teleconverters you have used
think about the actual phenomena
what a teleconverter does to the light
if you were to take a teleconverter of 2x
and youll have to trust me that the total light in and out is the same
What happens to allow the field of view to change?
light is fixed
fov changes
therefore something else must change
consider what other things can change?
vagrant pagoda
it dosent pass though the teleconverter
Benefits include their cost effectiveness and small physical size; drawbacks include a loss of light
astral haven
so make the teleconverter bigger
astral haven
Benefits include their cost effectiveness and small physical size; drawbacks inc...
where does the light get thrown away in a camera?
vagrant pagoda
into the body
astral haven
exactly
vagrant pagoda
just like a iris
astral haven
so what is the actual limiting factor?
vagrant pagoda
the input of the main lense
astral haven
and what is the output limiting factor
you know this, its a pretty major feature on cameras
vagrant pagoda
what ever is after the main lense
so like i said
taking a wider fov main element
and zooming in with it
astral haven
no so light exits the optical system
vagrant pagoda
resaults in less light in the finaly image
astral haven
light is constant within the optical system always
so where does the light go after the optical system?
astral haven
not mathematically, and besides most elements are over 99% efficient
vagrant pagoda
yeah and that matters a ton with a big ratio telescope
astral haven
f stop is mathematical and does not include the loss from individual elements
so what would change the f stop?
because heres a crazy part that I know you dont understand
the f stop is practically independent from the optical system
at least mathematically
astral haven
ratio of input to output aperture
consider the equation
the important part that you are missing is the output aperture
if you have a teleconverter and lens to hand, you can actually see the difference by looking through the lens with and without the teleconverter
autumn igloo
Can the Switches also be removed by hand?
astral haven
yes, but the clips that hold them in place are tiny and its a million times easier with the tool
also #archived_keebs_talk i think
astral haven
if you have a teleconverter and lens to hand, you can actually see the differenc...
so @vagrant pagoda what did you see when you tried this
cursive summit
Can the Switches also be removed by hand?
Wooting switches?
No, they really can't without proper tools
I'm pretty sure Wooting still includes a keycap and switch puller with their keyboards
autumn igloo
I'm pretty sure Wooting still includes a keycap and switch puller with their key...
does the object specifically designed to remove the Switches arrive at your home? )(not the keycaps)
vagrant pagoda
I'm pretty sure Wooting still includes a keycap and switch puller with their key...
I use 2 micro flats
cursive summit
The phrasing is hella weird
vagrant pagoda
The plastic remover that came with it sucked
astral haven
does the object specifically designed to remove the Switches arrive at your home...
yes its a little clip thing
astral haven
The plastic remover that came with it sucked
better than fingernails lel
autumn igloo
The phrasing is hella weird
Nah
autumn igloo
yes its a little clip thing
?
astral haven
autumn igloo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-KtpE1mv23s
it is separate or it is given to you as a “gift”
astral haven
it is separate or it is given to you as a “gift”
it comes in the bag of switches as far as i know?
oh?
vagrant pagoda
Yeah that is way better
The puller that comes with wooting is barely a serviceable cap puller
I broke more flaretechs with the puller than I did using a butter knife to pop them off lol
Yep
gusty kiln
@prisma crag apparently the 1st epsiode of the new warthammer series just came out
cursive summit
"AMD will sacrifice next Radeon gaming GPUs (RX 8000) output at TSMC in order to pump up FPGA and GPGPU production."
That's basically what Nvidia is doing
Seems like a good plan
ashen spindle
its also just completely made up
steep creek
lol.
astral haven
how tf did that title come into existence???
all i can see is that they are bringing in apple and mozilla to testify about how often people switch the default browser
"The Action button limits you to just a single action at any given time. So you can't map more than one thing to the button."
apple apple apple
hopefully someone has a fix for that like people made for the bixby button
steep creek
Yah same on the watch ultra. Only one thing at the time
There’s no fix on the watch to my knowledge, I’d assume same for phone
astral haven
https://www.gsmarena.com/apple_ipad_mini_(2021)-11105.php
Also I knew it existed
a15 with usb c 3.1
did apple specifically go out of their way to remove the 3.1 controller for 1 generation???
ashen spindle
likely not removed just limited
astral haven
There’s no fix on the watch to my knowledge, I’d assume same for phone
-_-
all 3 buttons on the side of my phone have hold, double tap and triple tap bindable thanks to a 3rd party app
my previous phone had the same for all 4 buttons
astral haven
likely not removed just limited
🤷 if it cant do 3.1, 3.1 is removed imo
steep creek
-_-
all 3 buttons on the side of my phone have hold, double tap and triple tap b...
That’s the downside hah, have to accept their decisions
steep creek
It sicks though because I have mine bound to the stopwatch function, I also want to bind it to activate my focus modes
ashen spindle
the pinout for usb3 has usb2 why would it not be possible they just have the same ipblock and limit it
steep creek
as if my phone vendor decided to let 3rd parties do that?
Oh I meant Apple, as in they decide these kind of things for you. Can’t have options as you have with android
astral haven
the pinout for usb3 has usb2 why would it not be possible they just have the sam...
no i mean the chip doesnt have the controller
a16
ashen spindle
what makes you think that
astral haven
thats the current claim from apple
ashen spindle
where
astral haven
mkbhd
ashen spindle
doesnt sound like a source I'd put any value behind
astral haven
also apple?
steep creek
lol.
astral haven
ars noted the same thing
if you wanna find more than this you are gonna have to watch the presentation
if you dont wanna click
ashen spindle
well I dont trust apple so technically that all could still be correct and a16 still having a16 controller, since the AT comment is their own as indicated by brackets, assuming it only can do usb2 based on them only giving that much
astral haven
also keep in mind this gen ipads only got m1 for usb 3
astral haven
well I dont trust apple so technically that all could still be correct and a16 s...
sure but unlike all previous gens, theres no usb 3 ipad with that chip
ashen spindle
yeah but whats more likely, putting working usb3 controller on and limiting if you dont need it or amking a usb2 controller for no reason
doesnt really use more die space either
astral haven
therin lies the problem
if you actually make a usb2 only controller its probably quite tiny
and considering that apple would have decided this 5-6 years ago, long before usbc was entering the docket, it makes more sense
ashen spindle
based on the phx2 annotations it seems like they have similar size there at least
astral haven
yea thats probably wrong tho
ashen spindle
why would it be wrong
astral haven
amd uses phys with many features
like maybe it gets used for usb2, but its a gp PHY for any random communication you need
ashen spindle
astral haven
there is no shot that there are 16 usb2 controllers on z1
or that usb3 halved in size relative to that
each renoir dual usb3 controller contains 4 usb2 controllers
but they share phys
you dont get both at the same time
astral haven
also no
astral haven
where do you count 16
those things labeled usb2 are the size of half of a renoir quad usb2 controller
astral haven
also its used for webcam etc. in laptops
well at least not for competent laptops
intel has dedicated webcam interfaces using protocols that address the sensor module directly
maybe amd doesnt do that but id be shocked
shadow minnow
If you were feeling adventurous on a fast IC you could probably simulate usb 2 behavior without a proper controller, just with a ton of software and a clock running at the correct frequency, with usb 3 that would be more difficult
astral haven
thats what a phy is
its a module that converts data into a serial stream, and you can program it
you can have a dedicated pcie phy for example
but you can also just throw on a 128g phy like on zeppelin
or more accurately 4
shadow minnow
Yeah but I mean you woudlnt entirely need a phy for usb 2.0 it just would be inefficient
Like you can use a normal core and some software for the data stream but you woudlnt want to do that
shadow minnow
Though with usb 1.1 it’s a good way to expand microcontroller connectivity, like on rp2040 you can simulate 4 usbs
shadow minnow
its just is it a general or dedicated phy
I mean you could just use general IO if you had interupts setup or DMA for it
And if you had general IO
shadow minnow
Yes
astral haven
not the feature that it accomplishes
gpio is a type of phy
an adc or dac is a type of phy
astral haven
yea
shadow minnow
The only phy you need to make your device identified are two resistors I think, I recall some video experimenting it
astral haven
yea but if you wanna host its quite a bit more
however the phy can be as simple as a pair of 240mbaud wires afaik
wheat plume
I can confirm the double clicking my mouse was experiencing was caused by my USB Switch ;-;
which is good cause the mouse is finew
shadow minnow
yea but if you wanna host its quite a bit more
Oh true
shadow minnow
Yeah mouse switches like to break, especially on some (Logitech and others) mouses
magic rampart
Corsair has 8000hz rapid trigger https://www.reddit.com/r/Corsair/comments/16fz505/k70_max_rapid_trigger_beta_is_live/
wheat plume
I have my keyboard, mouse, speakers and controller charger dock plugged into it
wheat plume
Well that really shouldn’t happen
it didnt for a while but the last 2 months it started ;-;
and I thought it was the mouse, cause the mouse is like 10 years old by now...
but apaprently not
shadow minnow
I struggle to think of how can a usb switch cause that ngl
wheat plume
same
shadow minnow
Unless it’s low PD
astral haven
my kvm at work makes my side buttons on my mouse stop working
but only after you switch inputs and switch back
wheat plume
I just plugged the mouse directly into the Deck Dock and its working fine now, so it has to be the Switch :/
shadow minnow
What else do you have connected to it
wheat plume
keyboard, speakers and the charger dock for my controller
shadow minnow
my kvm at work makes my side buttons on my mouse stop working
Sounds like some issue from a very deep pit of firmware hell on whatever side
shadow minnow
keyboard, speakers and the charger dock for my controller
I mean that does sound like you may be draining too much power
Undervoltage can lead to all sorts of weird behavior
shadow minnow
Sounds like some issue from a very deep pit of firmware hell on whatever side
Another thing my limited but existing knowledge of the protocol makes hard to comprehend, unless the KVM translates the signal then resends it not supporting the side buttons
astral haven
if you unplug and replug the usb to the pc it works
and sometimes if you switch back and forth it works
jank
shadow minnow
Sounds like some weird pc side bug
astral haven
pretty sure it happens regardless of what device i use
chromebox and mac mini included
wheat plume
Undervoltage can lead to all sorts of weird behavior
I guess I could power it, it came with a USB cable
shadow minnow
Try for sure
wheat plume
idk what to power it with
a USB port? xd that seems ironic
using a USB port to power a USB Switch
shadow minnow
What usb port is it
wheat plume
on the switch? its a micro usb for power
shadow minnow
Yeah sounds like that’s for sure for power try using it
wheat plume
oh I know its for power
but i didnt need to power it so far, maybe I should try and if the mouse still double clicks then its a switch issue
and not power issue
even the product images show it without the power cable
astral haven
yea i have one of those at home and every one in a while my keyboard ceases to work until i press the button twice
ashen spindle
https://www.gsmarena.com/apple_ipad_mini_(2021)-11105.php
Also I knew it existed...
external usb3 controller and not on A15 directly , that would explain they never had usb3 before so they didnt downgrade
astral haven
external usb3 controller and not on A15 directly , that would explain they never...
thats a good point
and theres plenty of space in the ipads
ashen spindle
hooked into pcie or something on the soc
wheat plume
The Pink is so pretty 🤤
using white as background color is not great though
hard to properly see the color
astral haven
hooked into pcie or something on the soc
sad ifixit doesnt have a chipID
cursive summit
astral haven
was that the first 5g iphone?
it was, interesting
also of note for the title readers "France’s digital minister said the iPhone 12’s radiation levels are still much lower than levels that scientific studies consider could harm users, and the agency itself acknowledges that its tests don’t reflect typical phone use."
empty wren
Lol
astral haven
@vagrant pagoda the circle where light passes through is the aperture
The same amount of light passes through all of these apertures
But what happens is that the light has a different fov, be that before or after the aperture
No teleconverter to teleconverter, the apparent size of the aperture is 1/3 the diameter (since this is a 3x teleconverter) but what happens is the light is spread out more
astral haven
yea but that doesnt really apply if you are building a space telescope?
and thats what we were talking about
we were talking about the hubble and its spy satellite bretheren
and how since the spy satellite mirror was designed to focus on earth, the aespherics on the main lens were designed for that
but well that doesnt help with being a space telescope
and ion didnt believe they could use the exact same primary mirror, so I had to basically explain how the aperture number is unrelated to the diameter of the mirror
only 3 feet? weak, gimme the 2.4 meter mirror
I really would like to see the images from the new drones
like daaang
like that was 2013
what on earth do they have now!
severe phoenix
So I broke down and went with the UDM SE. Got it for an ok deal on ebay I suppose. Didn't want to spend that much, but it can be used if Fiber in our area ever gets to 10g, so it'll last I suppose
severe phoenix
Yeah, I have a PoE Switch for my current APs so with this I can get rid of that at least
Free up an outlet
It's also 10Gbps future proof ready, one of the reasons I said fuck it
Has two 10Gps SFP+ slots
astral haven
yea im aware got one myself lel
severe phoenix
Yeah I was reading with ids and stuff turned off it's got 8Gbps of throughput or so, not too shabby
mortal saddle
magic rampart
hm
its a problem on even their most expensive kbs?
people think steelseries is the choice after wooting but thats gonna change in 8 days
zenith silo
didnt they literally use that to take pictures of russian military bases in the cold war?
or am i thinking of something else
cant it take really high detail photos like, 30k+ ft in the air
old marlin
didnt they literally use that to take pictures of russian military bases in the ...
that is a U2
I mean for all we know they might have a replacement already
the SR72 will do it
old marlin
is it just me or is that a really stupid idea
it's funny how the mode envoy gets featured in the video, which is a MUCH better deal
not a fan of the board but at least you get something a bit closer to your moneys worth
old marlin
yea but like
cursive summit
I wonder how tf Apple just manages to make their silicon faster
cursive summit
Mainly for longevity imo
cursive summit
Discord lags?
Well tbf at least on my budget Poco, I do have to sometimes suffer with slowdowns
If I got a top of the line phone, I'm never upgrading again lol, that'd last a lifetime until something happens that'd force me to buy a new one
Xperia 5 V and Xperia 1 V are looking great though
old marlin
Discord lags?
always
mild dome
Supposedly the reasons Apple always keeps ahead of Snapdragon is that:
- Apple always get early access to the latest process node, e.g. the A17 is one the 3nm node, the competing snapdragon is on 4nm
- Apple can optimize super hard because they only expect the Apple IOS to run on the device, and nothing else
old marlin
tuns like dogshit
old marlin
Supposedly the reasons Apple always keeps ahead of Snapdragon is that:
1. Apple ...
snapdragon also sucked in comparison before apple went 3nm
apple just has really good cpu engineers
cursive summit
Supposedly the reasons Apple always keeps ahead of Snapdragon is that:
1. Apple ...
Like quin said, 3nm is very mediocre
It has to be that Apple has this closely knit ecosystem that every single app is custom tailored and optimized just for it
Like, run an app that's "emulated", and Apple's performance tanks
They are effectively forcing to custom tailor make all apps run natively in order to achieve runnable performance, that's a lot of effort for just iOS/MacOS
ashen spindle
Well apple had great engineers but they are having a brain drain
A17 has like 1% ipc improvement after what, 2 years?
cursive summit
Apple no longer uses Arm cores right?
Just the arm architecture
They make the cores themselves
I wonder how the A17 compares to Cortex-X4 just on raw spec
ashen spindle
I don’t think they ever used arm cores
old marlin
yea afaik is fully custom
ashen spindle
Maybe really early on