🔌│tech

[gusty kiln]

Sarcasm over the internet

[crisp granite]

ew not when you do it

[cursive summit]

Tbf I did try to make it obvious by bringing up ramen when you lot were arguing over hell knows what

[gusty kiln]

Needs /s

[crisp granite]

I’m sure he’s figured that out already

[cursive summit]

Yeah I know sunshine, I know

It's alright though, you are my special little fymrin

[devout raptor]

what is happening here? This isnt tech talk

[cursive summit]

Tech talk went to shit so we had to fix it

Tech talk will resume with apple event

So, yourself?

[gusty kiln]

Apple music tempts me everyday

[cursive summit]

Isn't it kinda racist to call yourself white?

That means you notice colours

Ok now that's just racist

Why you making it a colour thing

[young pecan]

Damn being racist against white people.

[cursive summit]

I know right?

[young pecan]

Pretty cringe.

[gusty kiln]

White on white crime

[cursive summit]

Yeah pretty cringe

[young pecan]

This whole conversation is one entire step away from some staff coming out of nowhere.

The biggest yike in tech talk for a while.

[cursive summit]

Hmm https://www.gamesindustry.biz/unity-adding-a-fee-for-each-time-a-game-is-installed

I don't like this

[gusty kiln]

Where V when you need him

[cursive summit]

Can is quite a lot

Best I can do is 0.5g

Ayo

https://www.overclock3d.net/news/cases_cooling/lian_li_sues_phanteks/1

[gusty kiln]

The daisy chaining?

[young pecan]

Oh no!

Oh fuck!

What will we do without Unity?

[cursive summit]

Prolly keel over and die

[young pecan]

https://enfusionengine.com/

Oh wait I remember.

Bohemia is absolutely based as fuck.

[cursive summit]

Using based is pretty cringe, what are you, some american patriot republican simp?

Is enfusion going to be just released out to the public?

[young pecan]

Fuck you got me, I'm the most patriotic for America Australian that's ever existed.

[cursive summit]

Real virtuality wasn't

[young pecan]

May as well just kms rn, life over.

[young pecan]

Unsure but I'm more hopeful for next gen.

Super impressive tech.

[fickle ore]

INTC sold 10 % of IMS to TSMC 😮

[cursive summit]

Is it though?

It looks not much better than Unreal

Easy to use though

[fickle ore]

https://www.reddit.com/r/hardware/comments/16guxrk/amd_radeon_rx_7700_xt_7800_xt_meta_review/

prob fking posted already

[young pecan]

Different jobs.

But yes like at this stage who tf cares about Unity when UE5 and Enfusion exist.

[cursive summit]

Unity is still very much relevant

Not sure why you'd claim it's not

[crisp granite]

That’s like multiple different flavours of white

[young pecan]

Because UE5, Unity is a relevant engine but I don't really see a lot of super compelling reason to pick it outside of turbo indie.

[cursive summit]

If it's pizza > kebab, then I will fly to canada and fight you

[crisp granite]

You’re completely right

[crimson wigeon]

How the heck would the install fee even be tracked

[gusty kiln]

I use those for work everyday

[cursive summit]

DRM

[crisp granite]

Depends on which of each

[crimson wigeon]

It sounds easily abusable to trigger millions of installs to give a poor indie dev a massive bill

[cursive summit]

Where's the horni police

Doge, control your wife

[young pecan]

Lmfao why? What happened?

[gusty kiln]

Make a kabeb with a pizza as the pita

[cursive summit]

Okay that's just heresy

[gusty kiln]

https://tenor.com/view/heresy-detected-gif-25567321

[young pecan]

Uhuh I'm not going to bother doing that because effort.

[steep creek]

I used to enjoy them a lot but I’ve just found the silicone tip AirPods to be more comfortable now. Both are great though, no issues with sound lol

[gusty kiln]

The earpods are one of the few headphones that disappear in my ear

S tier comfort

[steep creek]

Yap comfort was great, just bit of a hassle cleaning them imo

[gusty kiln]

I wish the wireless ones worked better with android

[steep creek]

Apple Watch as well, that’s one of the reasons why I’ll most likely stick with iPhone

[gusty kiln]

I never liked wearing things on my wrists

[young pecan]

True ngl.

Smart watches are great.

[steep creek]

I’ve just always had a watch since I was quite young, feels weird without it now haha

[gusty kiln]

Prevents me from becoming one of those expensesive watch collectors

[steep creek]

Yeah I use it more than my phone, fantastic little device, easy access to calls calendar and such

[gusty kiln]

https://www.jbl.com/wireless-earbuds/TOUR-PRO-2.html

Jbl basically combined a tws and smart watch into 1 product

[steep creek]

Yah charging can be a hassle when traveling I suppose, but it charges so quick it’s usually fine

But personal preference of course

[gusty kiln]

Need tech to turn body heat into electricity

Infinite battery life for smart watch

Oooo

[steep creek]

Seebeeck generators, but they are so inefficient unfortunately haha

[young pecan]

Yeah I gotta say I couldn't go back to this.

Don't upgrade, good smart watches will ruin analogue for you.

Used to have a rolex, not fucking anymore.

Piece of shit only tells the time, like I can't roughly estimate that by the goddamn sunlight.

Now it's just old family memories that can't apex the cheapest apple watch.

[cursive summit]

Wtf are you, Robinson Crusoe?

[smoky frigate]

if an electronic device supports displaying dancing anime girls, it's probably the way of the future

[young pecan]

A more true sentence uttered there has never been.

F to pay respects for this timeline.

[young pecan]

What you think I want to be stranded for nearly 3 decades? Fuck no.

Might get some fun skills out of it but telling time and direction without a map is NOT worth it.

[gusty kiln]

The iem markets has already embraced anime waifus

[young pecan]

I'm just waiting for the day AMD somehow paints waifu busts on the CPU IHS.

The timeline is cursed enough for that.

[gusty kiln]

Amd vtubers

Might as well go for it

Little risks

[astral haven]

pose estimation is getting so much better too

only digitally lel

[gusty kiln]

Especially since you have your personal data locked down

Pngtuber to start out

Apparently expensive to get a nice rig set up

And the art

[young pecan]

Any iphone a 10 or higher.

That's it.

[astral haven]

^This

[halcyon willow]

That's exactly what I am

[astral haven]

ye and they already have systems working with just a webcam, tho they are more janky by far

[halcyon willow]

can't let a Europoor talk down on me lol

[astral haven]

yikes

[young pecan]

That's a yike.

[astral haven]

well no there are 2 yike

[young pecan]

Fair.

[astral haven]

hey being american isnt a yike

[young pecan]

Bro please.

That's a mega yike.

[gusty kiln]

[astral haven]

look fam we got all of yall out of monarchy either directly or indirectly

its not the being american that is the problem

[gusty kiln]

Carmon is French American so that a wombo combo too

[astral haven]

ah but britain isnt a monarchy any more

we swear loyalty to a fkn peice of cloth lmao

[young pecan]

Pfff. The French eventually would have solved that. Idk what the fuck goes on in France but it seems toxic to anything that isn't a democracy.

[gusty kiln]

With Elizabeth gone, it's even less

[astral haven]

it is now, but that wasnt the case until the american revolution

[gusty kiln]

France actually fuck shit up when things goes anti consumer/workers

[astral haven]

sure a hundred years before that we chopped the heads off of some monarchs, but we replaced them with a different type of monarch

[young pecan]

I mean I think we all know that was always going to snowball.

Matter of time, really.

But actually I wanted to poke at your brain, have you touched kubernetes?

[astral haven]

with a 3 foot pole
dont have enough experience to be more helpful than "look at yt tutorials"

[young pecan]

Damn.

Check this out. https://www.talos.dev/
It's beautiful.

Imho best linux distro by far in sheer elegance.

[astral haven]

there was someone here who was talking about that before

[young pecan]

Talos good.

[astral haven]

or it was in another server, I couldnt tell you

the 2 boxes on my desk running kube are running bone stock ubuntu lel
and they havent been plugged in in a year

[young pecan]

Bro please.

Kube on ubuntu is heresy.

Cursed layout.

[astral haven]

im extremely heretical on every front I know how

[young pecan]

Worst opinion in linux?

[astral haven]

?

[young pecan]

Like what's your worst linux take from popular perspective.

Mine would have to be that linux is an overall garbage trash platform and BSD is just... better on average.

[astral haven]

define popular lel
the popular opinion is "what is linux?"

[young pecan]

Lmfao

Popular to people that know enough to use it for something that isn't email.

[astral haven]

tbh i dont think really anyone has any truly awful takes about linux any more who even has a basic understanding of all of the options

[raw zephyr]

worst linux take? debian and derivates are the worst for anything other than a server

[astral haven]

most opinions that sound bad are just people applying the opinions to something different than the originator meant

[young pecan]

I mean that's not even a bad take.

Debian is the classic linux server OS.

[raw zephyr]

or actually anything that uses apt is unusable past servers

[young pecan]

There's a reason Proxmox runs Debian. A good one.

[smoky frigate]

eh. I had kernel panics and bad installers on debian "stable". I think it should be called Debian outdated instead. that's my bad linux take 😛

[young pecan]

Based.

[raw zephyr]

hold on as i update arch kernel for the 20th time this week and have it break on me 5 times

love hate relationship

[astral haven]

this is also not exactly formatted as an opinion
As a statement of fact, I use a system with APT as more than a server

[smoky frigate]

this but unironically

[vagrant pagoda]

God damn

[astral haven]

my arch kernel updates when i press the update button and has never broken on me once

[vagrant pagoda]

AMD going to 16 channel ddr5

Eypc is hungry

[young pecan]

This is why I'll suck the cock of Talos literally forever. Best OS imaginable.

It's just Docker concepts but OS.

[gusty kiln]

Time to benchmark starfield

[smoky frigate]

tbf the kernels on arch have been flawless for me, but KDE was a nightmare. something new breaking every update. I dreaded it

[vagrant pagoda]

Ddr6 not quick enough

[vagrant pagoda]

384 cores so I don't think they will be clocked to the moon

[raw zephyr]

isn't talos that weird modern k8s distro

[young pecan]

Yeah.

Doesn't have SSH, shell, etc.

Just API access.

[raw zephyr]

what a dumb idea

[gusty kiln]

also 4 minutes for the big Apple mcgangbang

[young pecan]

Not really. It's designed to be ephemeral.

Just destroy and rebuild the cluster.

The gist is if it breaks the kube scheduler will kill it and remake it.

[astral haven]

docker is not perfectly efficient with resources, and more abstraction layers means less efficiency

it may function for a server environment but its just not an option for desktops

[raw zephyr]

it doesn't matter with this day's hardware

[young pecan]

Eeeh for the most part.

[astral haven]

thats also very not true

[young pecan]

x86 is a bloated nightmare realm so it's better to not further bloat it.

If it was actually running like x86 can run then modern OSes would look brain dented slow.

[astral haven]

you say that but the lowest latency systems all use x86 or pure FFU computing

[young pecan]

Yes because that's what x86 can do.

It just doesn't on desktop because it's a bloated nightmare.

[astral haven]

except thats not true?

mouse to pixel the fastest you get is still in windows using raw input in a game that beamraces

[rough osprey]

apple time

[young pecan]

Kiiiinda. Like say you actually rewrite Windows to be hyper efficient like you would for server software, x86 is a brilliant platform for it but it's ended up a library bloat where things aren't always designed to be stripped down efficient but rather robust. It's good in the short term but decades of this behavior result in lots of bloat compared to servers.

Some servers in any case.

I mean shit look at Roller Coaster Tycoon, despite being all but impossible to actually write everything like that imagine if it was.

[cursive summit]

Propaganda event is live

So, whoever cares https://youtu.be/ZiP1l7jlIIA

[rough osprey]

omg no usbc

anymore

how did i survive without apple products

[astral haven]

servers are designed for throughput not latency

[smoky frigate]

ermahgerd it's like the ipad all over again

[cursive summit]

No USB-C?

[young pecan]

If you can have both tho. >:D

[rough osprey]

ye ipad pro switches to lightning

[astral haven]

they didnt lead with usb c, its been 4 minutes

[astral haven]

thats physically impossible

[rough osprey]

wait 4k yt stream is new or

[young pecan]

Ok ok yes but I mean efficient programming.

I don't mean giga low latency on everything.

[astral haven]

again not possible

theres always a latency vs bandwidth tradeoff

[rough osprey]

tf

[cursive summit]

Why does Tim Cook or whatever this guy's name sound so tired

[rough osprey]

hard job

[cursive summit]

Doing nothing is pretty hard ngl

[young pecan]

Yeah nah I run a company and running Apple sounds fucking awful.

Now delegating running Apple to like 4 other people tho...

[cursive summit]

Yeah the lad doesn't even run it

People below him do

[young pecan]

Checks out.

[cursive summit]

He just gets the shares, sells them and becomes an instant multimillionaire

[astral haven]

still takes the flac from the shareholders

[cursive summit]

Ez cash

[rough osprey]

no way :O

[young pecan]

Oh cool, it looks exactly the same.

But that's fine.

Battery life, explain.

EXPLAIN.

[cursive summit]

Is apple watch really the world's most popular watch?

[young pecan]

I'd think so.

[cursive summit]

You know, Samsung, Tissot, Rolex

[astral haven]

individually yes

[cursive summit]

Whatever other watchmakers there are

[steep creek]

yah i think it is

[astral haven]

18 hour battery life?
yikes
please make it 24 times longer

[young pecan]

Oh interesting, I do like this.

[rough osprey]

sounds cool

sad that its not round tho

[young pecan]

Oh yeah this is a cool feature.

[cursive summit]

I didn't know Apple also started to make those workout bikes

Good job, apple

[rough osprey]

they also make tables

[steep creek]

for me, watch ultra was the most exciting launch lol

[cursive summit]

For me, this stream ending so I can focus on something else will be the most exciting thing

[astral haven]

2k to 1 nit? yikes
my watch can go from 24k to zero nits

[young pecan]

Oh this is super cool.

Fuck yes.

This is what I live for.

[cursive summit]

Nice so now everyone will be thinking you have parkinson's

Thanks, Apple

[rough osprey]

2million people watching this

[young pecan]

This is actually S tier feature.

[steep creek]

this feature already exists on watch lol

[young pecan]

Means I can answer calls wearing gloves.

[steep creek]

under accessibility

[young pecan]

Higher priorities.

[astral haven]

wouldnt be a problem if the thing had physical buttons lel

[cursive summit]

Nice of them to show a Brazilian looking family, reminds the poorer countries that they will never afford one unless the entire heritage saves up

[gusty kiln]

[young pecan]

Honestly? I'm fine not having physical buttons.

[astral haven]

eh they arent targeting the regular folks, just the oligarchs

[young pecan]

That shit is so archaic.

[rough osprey]

apple show when

[gusty kiln]

What is this shit

Oh environmental shit

[rough osprey]

wow

[ashen spindle]

oh god this is so cringe

[cursive summit]

Oh fuck they got Oprah Winfrey on apple's board of directors

[young pecan]

Bro I'm about to die from cringe. Someone break my neck.

Kill me please.

[astral haven]

our entire physical existence is archaic, technology that doesnt focus on the hardware we are born with or grow is inherently gonna be less useful

[cursive summit]

Anyways, thanks, Mozilla

[gusty kiln]

Mozilla vpn is just mullvad

[young pecan]

Genuinely I'm so ok moving past human nature.

[smoky frigate]

I heard mullvad is okay

[young pecan]

Bring on the machine augmentation.

[cursive summit]

https://tenor.com/view/cyberpunk2077-keanu-we-have-a-city-to-burn-handsome-shades-off-gif-16336796

[astral haven]

there are alot of problems that need to be solved before we can do that

[cursive summit]

But we got a city to burn

[young pecan]

Yep, just waiting on it.

Been looking at getting some augs actually. Just waiting for support.

[astral haven]

yea well in the meanwile what utility is there in making things worse?

[rough osprey]

wooting moment

[young pecan]

Walletmor. Embed my debit card in my hand or arm.

[cursive summit]

So anyways, how is greenwashing supposed to be informative

[gusty kiln]

Zzzzzzzzz this circlejerking skit

[astral haven]

the less bs we have to deal with, the more time is spent moving forward

[cursive summit]

Also, is there scientific data for the argument of sea freight > air freight in carbon footprint?

[young pecan]

This is endless cringe.

[pale sigil]

Anything about iPads today

[rough osprey]

use sailing boats

[cursive summit]

Air freight is so much quicker that I feel like sea freight is so much worse just cause it takes so much longer

[gusty kiln]

Finally it's over

[cursive summit]

Also sea is just a fuck ton of resistance

[astral haven]

it also takes an intense amount more energy to lift the plane into the air

[cursive summit]

How's air supposed to be worse than sea freight?

[gusty kiln]

Reminds me of that one futurama episode

[ashen spindle]

yes its really easy to just see the total co2 production for trips

faster = exponentially more force needed that needs to get its power somewhere

[rough osprey]

idk many planes vs 1 big ship

[astral haven]

a container ship can carry 10s of thousands times more cargo by weight or volume

[pale sigil]

Same guys who bin good hardware

Refuse to re use

[cursive summit]

Eh fair enough

[astral haven]

they are working on it, but its not viable in terms of volume

[young pecan]

I mean if you want efficiency then mass accelerators and space planes. Other than that boats.

The real MVP move is to start mining in space.

Just like... don't put the carbon into the atmosphere.

[rough osprey]

i do that

[cursive summit]

But why aren't you paying 700$ because of a tripped water damage sticker

Even if the thing has no water damage cause those stickers have been proven to be unreliable

[astral haven]

nah by definition the faster you move the more you need to displace
the more vertical translation, the more GPE you need to overcome

[rough osprey]

they dont hold much

[astral haven]

that has the lifting power of something on the order of half a cargo container

[cursive summit]

All apple manufacturing is 100% green?

[young pecan]

Right yeah so the smart move is space tethers, move the actual energy transfer into space.

[cursive summit]

Yeah, good luck making foxconn use anything but coal plants

[young pecan]

Mass accelerator, space tether, gravity. Nothing else is needed.

[ashen spindle]

our monstrous HQ built of reinforced concrete was carbon neutral somehow
apple really are the one company talking more lies than todd howard

[young pecan]

Well ig also some ion engines for steering but whatever.

[astral haven]

mass accelerator is a problem
the tether is also purely theoretical

[cursive summit]

Hey at least Todd didn't lie with Starfield

Lol watch numbers fell cause they keep yapping about this green stuff

[young pecan]

The theory works. We just don't have the manufacturing capability for the mats yet.

[astral haven]

no by definition since it is theory it doesnt work yet

[rough osprey]

ah thats why they ended the hermes collab

[young pecan]

Well no, it's been tested at small scale. It works.
The problem is making enough material in a strong enough way.

[cursive summit]

Damn, close to FineWomen

Close, but no cigar, Apple

[young pecan]

Like we just can't do it, no production cap.

[astral haven]

yes but it hasnt proven to scale fam

and it needs to scale several million x

[young pecan]

Yes indeed, but I'm hopeful. The science and all of the math checks out.

[rough osprey]

ye they removed the old ones

[young pecan]

It's doable if we can get the production working.

[cursive summit]

Ayyy, Nike collab

[astral haven]

well it doesnt yet?

[cursive summit]

2 sweatshops coming together to fuck humanity up!

[young pecan]

??? It does.
Like 95% of the difficulty is in making a long enough tether.

[rough osprey]

why they so ugly

[young pecan]

Not the math.

[gusty kiln]

When Apple watch ultra pro max?

[cursive summit]

Wow, 30 mins of talk could have been avoided by just showing this slide

[rough osprey]

whats SiP?

[young pecan]

System in <p>?

[steep creek]

o yeah ultra time

[cursive summit]

Cause it sips your wallet off your cash

[astral haven]

can you cite the FEA on the entire tether?

[rough osprey]

stunning design?

[young pecan]

After the apple thingo yeah.

[shadow minnow]

Late to event rip

[young pecan]

I mean maybe, I don't tend to actually save documents.

[shadow minnow]

Anything but watch discussed yet

[cursive summit]

No worries it's pretty shit so far

[shadow minnow]

What all has been talked about

[ashen spindle]

most cringe event yet with the mother nature skit

[shadow minnow]

Just want topics not spoilers

[young pecan]

I'll try my best to google scholar it.

[cursive summit]

Well, here's where I have to tell you all about 20 minutes of greenwashing

[astral haven]

as far as I know, noone has actually managed to simulate the whole thing

[cursive summit]

spoilers

[young pecan]

Oh like a computer simulation? Yeah nah.

[cursive summit]

The fuck are you talking about

[rough osprey]

when is apple watch getting usbc

[young pecan]

That shit is mega complex, fuck that.

[shadow minnow]

Anything but watches

[rough osprey]

what da font

[astral haven]

and those who have done the best models say the tidal forces would annhialate the tether

[ashen spindle]

watches and enviromental lies

[young pecan]

Yes, the downside is that it needs to be further up, you can't properly dangle it into the atmosphere.

If you do then it rips about 40% of the tether off.

[astral haven]

???

[young pecan]

Tidal forces combined with atmospheric friction.

[rough osprey]

what do they shoot on

[cursive summit]

36 hours on a watch?

[young pecan]

Yeah.

I'll probably go buy one, I think.

[cursive summit]

That's still not great

So this is the expensive one

It still sips your cash

[rough osprey]

the big boi one

[steep creek]

banger snoopy watchface

[cursive summit]

AYO APPLE

[young pecan]

800 USD, yikes.

[cursive summit]

Why you doing the MAGA fascist gestures

[astral haven]

we are trying to compete with container ships
hundreds of thousands of tons being shipped, at a cost of 4-8k usd per ton

[rough osprey]

huh its that cheap

[cursive summit]

The OK sign is bad according to some journalists

[rough osprey]

eu probably 1k

[young pecan]

Oh don't get me wrong it doesn't even remotely compete in price. It's the kind of thing that like hard needs preexisting space infrastructure.

[gusty kiln]

Iphone

[cursive summit]

Still trying to catch up to galaxy watch

[astral haven]

yes but even at the limit, assuming all fixed infrastructure is free, it still likely wont compete

[rough osprey]

?

[young pecan]

If our shit is made in space it will.

That's just dropping it into the atmosphere and gliding the package.

[astral haven]

thats not shipping

[ashen spindle]

here we go, lets see what little things iphone15 gets

[cursive summit]

Such a fancy presentation for a phone that looks exactly the same

[astral haven]

we are talking about moving mass from point a to b on earth

[young pecan]

That's true, yeah.

[gusty kiln]

Show us the bottom dammit

[young pecan]

Sorry it's 3am for me kek.

[steep creek]

looks nice

[rough osprey]

all in one back?

[pale sigil]

Cannot stand the notch

I really can't

[cursive summit]

Ayo, relax, why you moving so fast

[young pecan]

Mmm, black phone. Nice.

[cursive summit]

What notch

It's not a notch

It's an island

[pale sigil]

Fuck off

Lol

[cursive summit]

DYNAMIC ISLAND

[young pecan]

Yeah ngl, I do love the dynamic island. If that ever goes away I'm going to be so sad.

[gusty kiln]

Dynamic 4head

[cursive summit]

Learn the proper terminology

[young pecan]

S tier feature.

[rough osprey]

looks cool tbh

[pale sigil]

Fucking hate them

[young pecan]

It's super useful.

[pale sigil]

People say you get used to them

[young pecan]

Basically just a better notification.

[cursive summit]

Man imagine something that could be built-in as software, and Android already has it

But you just make a fuckin massive notch out of it

[rough osprey]

omg oled

huh

[pale sigil]

Exceptional viewing experience with a fucking huge ass block

In your way

Sure

[wheat plume]

iPhone 15 Ultra Plus Pro Max

[pale sigil]

My pixel camera thingy I can't stand either

[rough osprey]

oh plus existed

[cursive summit]

More space for admiring the island

[rough osprey]

i forgot

[pale sigil]

People say you get used to it

[astral haven]

rip mini 😭

[pale sigil]

I don't

[young pecan]

Oh interesting.

[cursive summit]

They really selling us colours?

[ashen spindle]

yeah I had to check if I have a notch or not because I did not remember

didnt notice it after like a day

[rough osprey]

black

[cursive summit]

Imagine selling colours of the phone when the thing will be in a case

[pale sigil]

Idk how you don't notice

[young pecan]

This ngl. It really just vanishes into the background.

[pale sigil]

Then again do you watch content

[rough osprey]

case users are cringe

[cursive summit]

Have fun paying apple for repairs

[young pecan]

I pay $8 a month for insurance, I pay nothing for breaks lmao.

[rough osprey]

haven't damaged any phone by dropping it yet

[young pecan]

Paying for damage is an idiot game.

[cursive summit]

Apple: we have raised the price by 100$ just to give you MORE COLOURS

[young pecan]

I mean yeah same.

But insurance good.

[pale sigil]

I pay $8

I pay nothing for repairs

Luv

[ashen spindle]

man so much eco blah blah, cant wait for them to just use A16 again

[rough osprey]

its still 60hz or

[young pecan]

Nah.

The 14 is like 120Hz.

[latent mural]

Only pro models

[pale sigil]

$96 gone into thin air

[cursive summit]

So.. it's the same exact camera as last year

[pale sigil]

Why TF do you pay for insurance

[young pecan]

Ah yes, the classic "I don't fuck up because I don't fuck up". That's great until you fuck up lmfao.

[astral haven]

nah slightly brighter

[pale sigil]

How do you break shit

[rough osprey]

skill issue

[vagrant pagoda]

ive heard of load balancing servers, never load bearing

[pale sigil]

I've had the same phone for 4 or so years before my current

[astral haven]

also this is on the regular not the pro

not the pro yet theres still minor hope

[rough osprey]

that's useless

[latent mural]

Ncase M1?

[rough osprey]

do i really need a pro for zoom

:/

[astral haven]

a 48mp sensor on the 5x telephoto would be sweet

[cursive summit]

I might be wrong, but that's actually worse?

[young pecan]

Ngl I don't ever take pics with my phone lmfao.

Useless.

[astral haven]

left is a pro not a regular

[rough osprey]

i just need zoom for taking pics in lectures

[steep creek]

now that i can relate to

[cursive summit]

Man apple's images just look like they are trying to apply an anime filter

So damn saturated

[steep creek]

but i just end up sitting at the front, lol

[rough osprey]

nahjh

[ashen spindle]

oversaturation is how you sell stuff to plebs bc omg bright colors

[rough osprey]

ye wth is that

like they know how to grade the stream

[cursive summit]

Man I'm sorry Apple but why is this a thing

[young pecan]

Wym? Isn't everything black with vivid 4000 nit red and/or green in the real world?

[ashen spindle]

ahahhaha

A16 again

[lofty pivot]

The island thing? Isn’t it super popular nowadays

[young pecan]

Because notch is shit and underscreen cameras and sensors are fucking awful.

[cursive summit]

Bexin on suicide watch

[astral haven]

in the real world it goes up to 50k nits lel

[young pecan]

Literally can't compete with my 40k nit A4 sheet of paper at midday. Pleb company.

[cursive summit]

You know that within like 2-3 days of dynamic island notch releasing, Android got its own island as software?

[astral haven]

garmin can lel
retroflexive lcd for the win

[cursive summit]

And then you are not stuck with this black splotch cause it's software, you can just disable it

[rough osprey]

why they explaining a16 again

[pale sigil]

iPads are not going to be on this show right

[cursive summit]

No

[ashen spindle]

if you explain it again people might think its new

[cursive summit]

Leaks said just iphone and watches

[pale sigil]

Why am I watching

[gusty kiln]

"Wired and wireless features"

[rough osprey]

11inch oled ipad when 😭

[cursive summit]

Let us see lads how they sell us USB-C

[astral haven]

about to say usb c!

[pale sigil]

I loved my popup camera

[latent mural]

I wish you could remove it

[pale sigil]

Ping me if there's iPad news

Xo

[cursive summit]

Well, there won't be so

Good luck pal

[astral haven]

thats probably the idea lel

[pale sigil]

Shit can happen

[lofty pivot]

They need to update mini with a non shitty screen, I’ll buy that

[cursive summit]

This whole presentation I'm pretty sure leaked 4 days ago

It's just phones and watches

[young pecan]

Ngl tho the actual satellite SOS thing is S tier.

[cursive summit]

So, why are they again mentioning all of this when they did with last generation?

[astral haven]

its not the pro any more! its a basic feature now

[rough osprey]

new viewers ig

[young pecan]

Oh fuck yeah. More stuff for this.

[astral haven]

revolution for the masses and all that bs

[steep creek]

hah this is neat

[cursive summit]

Will they bring a pack of Walkers?

[rough osprey]

damn yall got no connection on streets in da us?

[ashen spindle]

usb c

she said it

[steep creek]

not sure if id use this here, cell coverage is almost everywhere i think

[gusty kiln]

[cursive summit]

I can't wait to see how they sell the USB-C

[young pecan]

Ah yes, good.

[astral haven]

yea we have these things called hills that block cell coverage

[astral haven]

Finally!

[latent mural]

Cool

[steep creek]

ive yet to encounter a place in this country with no coverage lol

[rough osprey]

mew airpods case less goo

[cursive summit]

Earpods with DSP?

[latent mural]

“EarPods”

[astral haven]

yea well in this country its a monthly occurrence when you are going anywhere

[cursive summit]

Chu 2's got some new competition

[lofty pivot]

Thank god can finally get rid of all the old lightning chargers

[ashen spindle]

it has so many innovations

[astral haven]

at 100x the price lel

[cursive summit]

THAT WAS IT?

[steep creek]

yap

[cursive summit]

So it has nothing new

And we are selling to you again

[lofty pivot]

This is non pro isn’t it?

[young pecan]

Yeah I'm pretty happy with this. Just my current phone but a little bit nicer.

[astral haven]

the pro is gonna have the interesting stuff besides just usb c

[lofty pivot]

I get the feeling Apple haters enjoy the event more than Apple users lol

[astral haven]

also 48mp is a pretty huge upgrade

[ashen spindle]

not wrong

[lofty pivot]

They just get to echo chamber the same insults over and over

[latent mural]

I’m gonna upgrade from regular 14

[astral haven]

why not both?

[steep creek]

banger, go relax at the beach afterwards as well

[astral haven]

I use iphone because I have to for work

[lofty pivot]

It’s the hate watcher effect. They’re more passionate about it than the actual users

[cursive summit]

Just 799

And they canned the mini

[rough osprey]

less gooo

[ashen spindle]

I just like to point and giggle at unreasonable apple fans, use an iphone myself

[astral haven]

thats definetly not true considering the market cap

[rough osprey]

so its still 60

[misty saffron]

bet

[ashen spindle]

oh but its still 60hz lolololololololol

[lofty pivot]

? I’m not saying they outnumber the Apple users

[young pecan]

Ok but where 15 Pro Max.

[rough osprey]

then i gotta go pro:(

[cursive summit]

Left it with your mom after last night, sorry

[young pecan]

Shooketh

[cursive summit]

Pro Max A17?

[lofty pivot]

They finally upping the iPhone to 128gb base, should have been that long ago

[steep creek]

no doubt detroit is on track to overtake san fransico lol

[astral haven]

wasnt 14 128g base???

[young pecan]

Cool so titanium body. I like.

[rough osprey]

lol

[vagrant pagoda]

that way they can eol all the 64gb devices

[latent mural]

Wait, is this on YouTube?

[vagrant pagoda]

sorry os needs 64gb

[cursive summit]

Oh hey it still has a notch

[latent mural]

Someone send link

[steep creek]

you think they'll bother extinguishing it in the name of not wasting water

[ashen spindle]

iPhone 15 Ti, jensen edition

[misty saffron]

wonder how much of a weight difference titanium is compared to steel

[cursive summit]

You forgot to say it properly, it's iPhone 15 Pro Max Tie

[lofty pivot]

Yeah actually I believe so. I can’t remember if it was just pro or not though

[misty saffron]

great upgrade if 10%

[astral haven]

yep 14 was already 128GB base
until they release SE replacement 64GB will remain the base

[young pecan]

Can't wait to see JerryRigEverything snap a titanium phone in half.

[cursive summit]

Wasn't it just 1g?

[rough osprey]

lighter phone

less gooo

[cursive summit]

I mean technically it's lightest if it's just 1 gram less

Wait, they actually got a proper titanium chassis?

[misty saffron]

if it's lightest ever - no, not 1g compared to latest pro max

[cursive summit]

Titanium is hella expensive

I thought it's just titanium coloured

So it's 1599$ for flagship lol

[young pecan]

Holy shit yikes lmao.

[rough osprey]

pls no

[young pecan]

Hoooooly fuck.

[astral haven]

as long as its 2tb?

[latent mural]

That’s it?

[rough osprey]

starfield colla

b

[steep creek]

dang grade 6 next year, ready for pluto

[misty saffron]

why the fuck

[cursive summit]

Pretty sure graphene is stronger and far lighter so checkmate Apple, coal is better

[pale sigil]

Any iPad news yet

[latent mural]

No

[cursive summit]

No pads this event

[misty saffron]

is this just for hide n seek

[rough osprey]

pvp coating

[cursive summit]

REPAIRABLE

[young pecan]

Might go for raw titanium.

[cursive summit]

Apple and repairability

[young pecan]

Lmfao

[rough osprey]

still using aluminum inside

that's cringe

[gusty kiln]

Macro button

[cursive summit]

Apple invented a macro button

[misty saffron]

why would i want to find my friends if i can ask my friends where exactly they are

[rough osprey]

nice

[lofty pivot]

Actually kind of nice though

[latent mural]

How are you guys watching this ahead of time

[rough osprey]

who uses notifications

[young pecan]

Shiiiiiiiiiiiiiit.

IT CAN RUN SHORTCUTS.

[wheat plume]

Apple removed the hardware Mute Switch on the side of the phone.

It's now a customisable switch on the side ONLY ON THE PRO MAX MODEL

[young pecan]

YOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

[rough osprey]

damn

[cursive summit]

Yoooo we 1990s now!

Ew what the fuck is that

Does this also cost 999$?

[wheat plume]

Yes

[young pecan]

$1,999

[cursive summit]

@ashen spindle

[lofty pivot]

I’m ready for a year of Apple haters to spend the year memeing about the macro button thinking it’s some original joke

[cursive summit]

Bexin got the last laugh

[halcyon willow]

rip battery life

[ashen spindle]

not yet

[rough osprey]

huh

no normal a17?

[steep creek]

wheres jony hah

[cursive summit]

Sorry that would mean making the basic iphone 15 actually worth buying so they canned it

Pro Max only

[halcyon willow]

GPU...

4090 in an iPhone?

[rough osprey]

dont think anyone actually cares about the chip

[wheat plume]

Only the Pro Max iPhone 15 gets the new CPU

Therefore, the other 15 models get one less year of iOS updates compared to the Pro Max

[cursive summit]

When did Apple adopt big.SHITTLE?

With M1?

[lofty pivot]

Wat?

[astral haven]

10+ years ago?

[ashen spindle]

big little is an arm thing that makes sense there

its great for phones

[cursive summit]

Alright

Ah yeah ARM Cortex always has the big and small cores

I forgot

[astral haven]

apple doesnt use cortex but yea

[young pecan]

AV1, nice.

[cursive summit]

Sometimes I think they even had 3 types of cores or something

[young pecan]

Very pog.

Lmao USB 3 support is apparently a selling feature.

Kek

[rough osprey]

they took a while with av1

[cursive summit]

Not even USB4?

[pale sigil]

Any iPads yet

[cursive summit]

Wait so what about Thunderbolt on iPhones?

[rough osprey]

exynos exists

[astral haven]

sad but not shocking
apple has always nerfed whenever they can

[lofty pivot]

oh shit av1? Av1 streaming from a phone would be sweet

[astral haven]

the first on an iphone lel

[astral haven]

is encode confirmed?

[lofty pivot]

no idea, i can only hope

[astral haven]

they just said decoder

[cursive summit]

RAY TRACING

[rough osprey]

bro wth

[misty saffron]

hey at least they gave the youtube app entitlements for hardware vp9 decoding

[astral haven]

all the other mobile socs have it

[rough osprey]

its a phone

[pale sigil]

On iads?

[cursive summit]

Nah keep waiting

[astral haven]

pleasant its not happening

[halcyon willow]

bro lol

[rough osprey]

looks like starfield

[cursive summit]

4x faster than nothing is pretty fast

[misty saffron]

peggle... 😭

[pale sigil]

https://tenor.com/view/ted-lasso-afc-richmond-believe-gif-22969950

[cursive summit]

Fastest chip ever

Uh, Exynos would love to talk to you

[young pecan]

The best mobile gaming platform in the world?

Lenovo Legion Go would like to have a word.

Kek

[astral haven]

or literally android phone with 10x the games

[cursive summit]

Only cause they pay the devs to hamper other smartphones and apple gets all the good features

[rough osprey]

Phone gaming 🥴🥴

[steep creek]

lego raytracing incoming

[cursive summit]

Not sure how apple didn't get antitrusted yet, but I'll wait

[young pecan]

Go has hall effect joysticks, I don't give a fuck about anything else.

[wheat plume]

Did they really compare the iphone performance to a PS5???????

[astral haven]

as if that hasnt happened several times lel

[wheat plume]

LOL

[halcyon willow]

who tf is that guy

Fish Ling

that's gotta be racist

[young pecan]

AYO WHAT?!

[lofty pivot]

for real. In korea iphone is used by something like 80-90% of kids

[astral haven]

well the ps5 has a pretty weak raytracing engine, apple can only bully the super weak

[young pecan]

BRO IS THIRSTY!!

[cursive summit]

RE4 on phones

That is.. interesting

[halcyon willow]

that's actually cool asf

[cursive summit]

I bet it's just cloud streaming

[lofty pivot]

i think the number was like 88% of kids in US are on apple now

[shadow minnow]

REV too

[rough osprey]

why they trynna get gamers

[cursive summit]

Thought that dragon was off Skyrim for a second, would have bought the new phone instantly

[halcyon willow]

competing with the steam deck

wait, what?

[shadow minnow]

Oh wow

[wheat plume]

when you have to advertise your phone can run LoL

[halcyon willow]

there's no fucking wy

[lofty pivot]

the only really neat thing so far today has been the whole hand click thing for watch. Hope there's something new on the phone beyond usb c

[rough osprey]

true

[halcyon willow]

new camera

[misty saffron]

you seem to forget the event is also for your grandma who has no idea about phones

[astral haven]

"equivalent of 7 camera lenses" yiiikes

[halcyon willow]

16 will have the camera used to shoot Oppenheimer

[misty saffron]

🤯

[lofty pivot]

meh the phone cameras are already so good at this stage unless you're a photo pro it doesn't even matter anymore

[misty saffron]

didn't know oppenheimer got assassinated

[lofty pivot]

i wonder if they improved the video stabilization though, that'll be neat i guess

[astral haven]

you try to take a photo of anything even remotely far away lmao

[cursive summit]

Ngl they actually had me interested with A17, but now they are back to selling the same as last gen, as always

[halcyon willow]

no A17 on Pro models?

[lofty pivot]

not with phone no

[cursive summit]

Max only

[astral haven]

my phone can and its nearly 3 years old lel

[cursive summit]

So pay up you cheapass

[halcyon willow]

i will lol

[lofty pivot]

if i want to take some crazy long range shot i'll just use my dslr

[steep creek]

thats some dress

[cursive summit]

Meanwhile, Samsung's on 200megapixel

[lofty pivot]

just give me usable quick pic features and i'm happy

[pale sigil]

MP is kind of a meme

[halcyon willow]

I agree

[pale sigil]

When lower mp can still end up looking better

[young pecan]

Correct take.

[astral haven]

my phone obliterates your dslr in terms of quality per volume taken up in my pocket

[cursive summit]

Oversaturation

[lofty pivot]

that's great for you I guess?

[pale sigil]

I mean look at HTC

[astral haven]

Yes it is in fact lel

[pale sigil]

They had some like gigapixel shite naming

[lofty pivot]

lel indeed

[rough osprey]

finally

[cursive summit]

Oo, Apple just bought the newest telephoto off of Sony

[astral haven]

WHAT

only 77mm????

[pale sigil]

iPads?

[astral haven]

what on earth are they doing

Oh oof

[cursive summit]

They did mention iPads

They said it charges with USB-C

That's it

[warped flax]

[pale sigil]

That's old news

[astral haven]

ok thats just the pro
the max has a 5x

[wheat plume]

Desoyn

[cursive summit]

And that's exactly why you aren't getting any ipad news today

[halcyon willow]

they always say something wild lol

[wheat plume]

OMFH FINALLY APPLE GETS MACRO

[steep creek]

wonder how the night mode is

[astral haven]

ok so the new apple telephoto is around half of retina resolution

[cursive summit]

Oh hey the USB-C jack is back

... USB3 cable...

[wheat plume]

Joz

[lofty pivot]

meh seems like just camera stuff for this iteration. Guess usb c is the only real feature this time around

[cursive summit]

Oh, RAW format is pretty good

[young pecan]

The single worst pants I've ever seen someone wear ever holy fuck.

[cursive summit]

They are only like 5 years behind Sony phones on that

[wheat plume]

THEY DONT EVEN CALL IT USB C XD

[steep creek]

looked like a burnt marshmallow

[rough osprey]

why would u use iphone as a cam

[cursive summit]

Oh they used DLSS3 frame generation to film at 4K60FPS

[pale sigil]

How much was that insanely expensive iPhone again

The new one

[rough osprey]

as a studio

[halcyon willow]

actually worth

[young pecan]

BRO PLEASE.

[lofty pivot]

depends on country, in asia/eu it's waaay more

[halcyon willow]

for $1,600? hella deal

[astral haven]

because it fits in a pocket and you can outfit a hundred folks with them for the price of a cine camera?

[steep creek]

not yet

[cursive summit]

Get your facts right, it's pronounced Tie

[rough osprey]

but not as a studio

[cursive summit]

Spatial videos?

[warped flax]

[astral haven]

yes a studio

[rough osprey]

still looks shit compared to real cams

[astral haven]

just a small studio

[cursive summit]

Ew, apple glasses

[astral haven]

youd be shocked how much is shot on gopros

[cursive summit]

Pricing incoming

[halcyon willow]

360 video

when

[lofty pivot]

i guess the macro button is neat but it's kind of meh for a leading feature update

[cursive summit]

And.. it's priced at 1999$

[wheat plume]

Can only use Spatial Video with 15 Pro and Apple AR Headset

[rough osprey]

no wifi7?

[steep creek]

hah it does have 6E

[wheat plume]

you need 6 grand pf hardware to use Spatial Video

[wheat plume]

GG Apple

[cursive summit]

Meh

[steep creek]

carmon i suppose wifi 7 might come afterall lol

[rough osprey]

yo good price wth

[lofty pivot]

oh sub 1k

[young pecan]

Shit ok I'm fine with that price. Not bad, Apple.

[pale sigil]

What is

[lofty pivot]

they actually kept the price, i'm actually surprised

[rough osprey]

why apple so nice

[gusty kiln]

@astral haven are you going to pull the trigger?

[rough osprey]

what is going on

[halcyon willow]

any difference with Ti model and pro max model?

[cursive summit]

iPad Pro with M2Pro

[shadow minnow]

Oh wow

[young pecan]

Fuck me yeah I'm 100% fine with this.

[halcyon willow]

wait, what?

[shadow minnow]

I am surprised that they didn’t increase price ngl

[lofty pivot]

i think basically everyone was expecting price hike lol

[pale sigil]

For fuck sake

[young pecan]

Looks like we buy iPhone 15 Pro Max.

[halcyon willow]

i can trade in my 14?

[steep creek]

1000 off trade in thats not bad

[pale sigil]

Will someone just fucking tell me what's price at 1999

[astral haven]

oh hell no, im not taking a >4x loss in zoom quality lel

[halcyon willow]

any difference between that and Ti model?

[pale sigil]

Sheesh

[sharp badger]

Thought that Telephoto would be better

[young pecan]

I mean the titanium one.

[cursive summit]

Apple folding phone

[shadow minnow]

Aren’t all titanium?

Or?

[cursive summit]

Or rollable, idk, I didn't listen

[lofty pivot]

that's a con though, they say up but the 1k mark is only for something like last years iphone pro max with ton of memory

[sharp badger]

Kinda disappointed tbh

[astral haven]

yup its as good as sony's Zoom telephoto at best

[young pecan]

The Pro series, yes.

[astral haven]

and sony has far better focusing

[shadow minnow]

Yeah I am surprised price didn’t go up

[cursive summit]

Seems the show is over

[shadow minnow]

I wish 48mp was given to all ones

[cursive summit]

New ipad pros woo

[steep creek]

yeah you're right, always some trade off. just surprised to see apple doing something like this

[halcyon willow]

but still, hella money off

[cursive summit]

@pale sigil join right now they are talking about ipads

[astral haven]

a 5x with a 48mp would have gotten them to the level of samsung from 3 gens ago

but 12mp yikes

[pale sigil]

Trolling me?

[lofty pivot]

usually you get more just selling it locally than trade in, the trade in is like 30% less normally

[cursive summit]

Of course

Show's over

[sharp badger]

Looks like i'll either buy the Xiaomi 13 Ultra , 15 Pro Max or S24U if i have the patience

[lofty pivot]

whelp that's all lol

[wheat plume]

I hate this voice

[pale sigil]

Im so confused

[wheat plume]

so much

[pale sigil]

I saw y'all talking about 1699 and then 1999

[young pecan]

Yeah honestly that's the easiest upgrade I've ever seen.

Easy.

[halcyon willow]

cant wait

[cursive summit]

The only thing that interested me was that they somehow got Resident Evil 4 to work on a phone

[lofty pivot]

people will update just for usb c honestly, to throw out their old charger mixers

[cursive summit]

I wonder what resolution it's at, like 720p upscaled?

[wheat plume]

I found out why they made the camera lens diagonal on the 15... so you cant jailbreak it to get Spatial Video working :')

got to pay for 15 Pro Max for that

[pale sigil]

How

[young pecan]

My plan just lets me swap over for $50 and I keep my plan, so given it's the same price I lose what? $50 and I get the new big phone? Brain damaged simple upgrade.

[pale sigil]

What phone do you have rn

[young pecan]

14 Pro Max.

[gusty kiln]

Kek, wasn't able to watch the rest, work meeting

[pale sigil]

🤡

[cursive summit]

🤡

[rough osprey]

easy upgrade from s21u lol

[cursive summit]

Easy upgrade to Sony Xperia 1 V

[lofty pivot]

the watch design was the same as last year right?

[young pecan]

I mean hey I pay as much as I was paying for my 10, no downside for going with the best when I can afford it.

[pale sigil]

It's not $50 you're losing

Lol

🤡

[young pecan]

Explain the logic?

[halcyon willow]

what are you losing? and why call him a clown?

[young pecan]

Maybe you just have shitty mobile plans.

[pale sigil]

You give them $50 and a valuable phone you can sell for money back

[wheat plume]

They used someones beautiful day remix for the intro ...
boi , I hope they paid that person

[pale sigil]

You're losing money

[astral haven]

the best they have is a 5x zoom on a 12 megapixel sensor
my current phone is 10x on 10 megapixel
and remember megapixels are squared with zoom
so at 10x a 12 megapixel 5x is 3 megapixels

[young pecan]

Ah but that's the thing, I've paid off less than a 6th of this phone.

[cursive summit]

Nah, they didn't, I also bet their "photos" were also AI generated

[steep creek]

sounds decent i'd take it

[pale sigil]

How much a month?

[young pecan]

Like 70 for the phone and plan.

Dude I get loyalty benefits.

[pale sigil]

Lol

[young pecan]

200 gigs, the MSP will insure my phone as part of the plan, and I get double insurance from Apple.

[cursive summit]

Anyways

https://www.gsmarena.com/compare.php3?idPhone1=12548&idPhone2=11773

[young pecan]

I can break this thing for free 4 times a year.

[pale sigil]

🤡

[cursive summit]

15Pro Max specs are up

[pale sigil]

"free" you said you pay $8 a month for insurance

That's not free

[cursive summit]

A17 Bionic (3 nm)

[young pecan]

Yeah, that's on top of the plan which was discounted by $8 for loyalty.

I pay functionally nothing.

Where do you live that has trash tier MSPs?

This is pretty standard in Aussieland.

[lofty pivot]

yeah aus gets great phone deals

[pale sigil]

Bet you pre ordered light fall deluxe

🤡

[young pecan]

Nah.

I don't preorder anything.

[cursive summit]

🤢

30W charging in 2023

[lofty pivot]

aus in particular is where they always throw in massive phone discounts with the contract resigning each time

[young pecan]

Basically yeah.

[cursive summit]

At least they slapped a bigger battery

[wheat plume]

The best laptops ever

[young pecan]

Last renewal I got 3 months off, data increase, and that $8 off the main plan.

[wheat plume]

according to Apple

[halcyon willow]

Why are you being like that?

[young pecan]

Bro likes to be salty because I'm a better D2 player.

[lofty pivot]

i don't think pleasant gets it, it's not the same in all the other countries - in korea for example there's only a very minor discount

vs. in aus they practically give you the phone if you sign a long plan

[young pecan]

Oh yeah it's great here for phone plans.

[cursive summit]

Tbf just because you both play Destiny, you lot are brainrotted

[rough osprey]

wait they only accept iphones for trade in

sad

[lofty pivot]

i bet you don't have a sweet anti pervert sound on your phone though. I can't take a photo without a loud shutter sound on my phone

[young pecan]

My XS Max I just wandered into an Apple store and they're like 'ok bro we can cut 2 months off the plan for shits and gigs and also your data is cheaper and also you're not lockin contract and also you can trade up whenever and also you can swap MSPs whenever and also you can downgrade whenever' shit like that.

[pale sigil]

Let's get this clear

[crisp granite]

no clarity allowed

[young pecan]

Aussieland might have the cocaine capital of the world but damnit that cocaine goes to the MSP salesmen.

[crisp granite]

Also no D2 players

[young pecan]

Shhhhh. D2 is based.

[rough osprey]

188g on new vs 206 on old

[young pecan]

Stay away with your bad takes.

[rough osprey]

still heavier then non pro

[pale sigil]

By the time he gets a new iPhone he would have paid $500+ and have nothing to show for it.

[crisp granite]

…haha clearly you haven’t been to the LA or NYC clubbing scenes

[cursive summit]

Lol this is just sad https://www.gsmarena.com/compare.php3?idPhone1=12548&idPhone2=12263

15 Pro Max is still worse than the Xperia 1 V

[young pecan]

No actually. That 70 is the plan and the phone.

[cursive summit]

Man I want the Xperia