🔌│tech

[steep creek]

i'd prefer to buy stuff rather than these installments when possible

[zenith silo]

Id much rather buy a phone that isn't locked to a carrier than be locked into one single carrier until my contract is up

[astral haven]

personal preference isnt always financially optimal

[astral haven]

Same
and the way i chose to finance it was by storing the money in a bank and spending it in one big go

[steep creek]

yep for sure. just saying if possible i'd rather wait and save up, if not then go with installments

[astral haven]

but some people prefer the model of consistent monthly costs

[zenith silo]

We pay 40$ a month for 50gb of data simple and done

[steep creek]

yeah ive heard this especially when buying cars

[zenith silo]

It's just a monthly thing if we don't want to continue just don't pay and it's over

[astral haven]

sure but you also paid x amount for a phone in 1 go

[zenith silo]

Yes which is preferred

[astral haven]

ah but thats not always true

[zenith silo]

Maybe I'm one of few people that actually use a phone until it's broken?

I don't understand upgrading every x amount of years if your phone is still good

[astral haven]

our work for example pays $80 for an iphone SE ($480) as long as we agree to use the phone for 2 years

the 80 is tax on the phone purchase

[reef patrol]

Well...no. That's not how banks look at your accounts and spending here, at all.

[astral haven]

imagine nothing changed besides you pay 300 instead of 900 for a phone that would cost 900 to pay up front?

[zenith silo]

With all of the contracts I've had, the monthly payments were absurd for very little in terms of data at least

[reef patrol]

They couldn't care less if you're constantly using 10% of your credit or none at all.

[zenith silo]

But that's never how it worked for us

[astral haven]

🤷 the sophistication of the score is irrelevant to the point tho

[reef patrol]

Not really

[astral haven]

sure but thats how it can work and be beneficial

[zenith silo]

We eventually pay full price for the phone anyway ON TOP of already ridiculous monthly payments

[final flame]

I don't like trading in phones

[reef patrol]

Compared to somewhere like the US where you're told to get a credit card at 18, and build up a score by using it carefully through certain guidelines for years.

[astral haven]

yea and thats a model where it doesnt make a difference except for the amount of money you would gain by keeping the money in a savings account

[astral haven]

yea except the capacity for acquiring leverage in the us is vastly greater than where you live

I can get a 100k car loan right now, despite only having 4 years of credit and nowhere near the income to afford it

dont get me wrong the system is awful for people with poor self control, however for the people who are willing to optimize, its incredibly powerful

[gusty kiln]

predatory by design, but great if you know how to "play the game"

US runs on debt

[steep creek]

100k that easily?

[gusty kiln]

with that credit score and a job, yeah

[astral haven]

I was looking to buy a car, and i searched for loans, and one of the offers was 96k when i went looking

i ended up buying a car for like 8k without a loan but like the point still stands

[steep creek]

im very uneducated in this matter but from what ive heard, its difficult to get even housing loans here without some stuff to back it up like a job, alternative property or so on

[astral haven]

it also wasnt easy, i spent 4 years optimizing credit

[astral haven]

yea but 100k is not enough for anywhere near a house here lel

apartments are a million easy

[steep creek]

not in the city, but if you go out the rural area can get a decently sized one lol

[gusty kiln]

yeah at least 300-400k til the home starts being "nice"

[zenith silo]

Housing loans can easily reach 500+ thousand dollars where I live

[astral haven]

i am in a rural area

[reef patrol]

Who needs four years of credit?

You have an income and expenses. If those balance out, you can borrow for that car.

[steep creek]

different countries i suppose, here cities are very expensive but rural places are cheap

[zenith silo]

Rural is more expensive where I live

Especially with the giga rich corporations trying to buy it all up

[astral haven]

yea, here the rural areas are expensive and the cities are expensiver

to be fair you can spend a hell of alot less but its still incredible

[gusty kiln]

[zenith silo]

Nothing like giga rich corporations buying houses so they can force people into renting for the rest of their lives

[gusty kiln]

lots of house-poor people in the US

[zenith silo]

[steep creek]

intersting stuff, all new to me lol

my assumption was, the further away you go from society, the cheaper it will be

[zenith silo]

Not always

[astral haven]

ah but for how long are the terms of the loan you can get
in the us there are 80/96 month car loans for example

[gusty kiln]

more undesirable the area, the cheap it will be

[zenith silo]

96 month car loans

Pay twice the amount in interest once your done paying it off wtf

[gusty kiln]

tesla offers a 96month loan

[astral haven]

not twice but only barely less yea

[zenith silo]

Not surprising, they are overpriced

[astral haven]

and the higher your credit score, the lower the interest

[gusty kiln]

kekekek

[zenith silo]

Same things gonna happen in canada

[astral haven]

they arent tho, they are priced what the market can bear, and an incredible number of people still buy them

[gusty kiln]

I'm looking to buy a home in the near future

[zenith silo]

Tesla makes garbage vehicles at an extreme premium

[gusty kiln]

cheapest telsa is 40k, not too bad

[astral haven]

so does every other brand?
tesla just happens to have more profit since their operation is massively more streamlined than the others

[gusty kiln]

but still would rather buy something else

[zenith silo]

As well as the major governmental push for evs

[astral haven]

if i had to buy a new electric car right now, the only reasonable option is tesla, everything else costs quite significantly more

[zenith silo]

Tesla is a killer marketing thing

They make garbage vehicles though

[astral haven]

not as big as the push for gas cars tho

[zenith silo]

Where?

I don't see that at all anymore

[astral haven]

have you seen gas prices

us gov subsidizes the gas, and that ends up subsidizing the gas cars

we pay as much per gallon as you pay per liter basically

[zenith silo]

Im confused how are the raised gas prices helping push people into ice vehicles?

[crisp granite]

and most of the developed world tbh

I could 100% buy a decent little house here

[crisp granite]

I'd be paying it off for the next 30 years at best

[astral haven]

no gas prices are lower here than they would be without subsidy

[zenith silo]

That's a states thing?

[crisp granite]

with a university education, and a job that pays at least 10k a month pre tax

[zenith silo]

We pay like 5$ a gallon here

In canada

[crisp granite]

where the fuck are you from lol

[zenith silo]

Fucking bc

[crisp granite]

I pay like...1.6-1.8 per litre here in ON

[zenith silo]

We get scalped on our gas prices

It's like 1.97 a liter for premium

Used to be over 2$

A few months ago

[astral haven]

not just the states, you benefit from the us pumping trillions into oil and gas
https://www.imf.org/en/Blogs/Articles/2023/08/24/fossil-fuel-subsidies-surged-to-record-7-trillion

[zenith silo]

If that means ice won't go away I'm all for it

Wasn't aware

[astral haven]

🤷 sure but point is the gov is pumping harder for ice than they are for electric

well over a trillion of direct explicit funding

[zenith silo]

In terms of "the media" i disagree, but I didn't know it was like that

[astral haven]

oh yea the us wants people to switch to electricity since it would be cheaper to move those subsidies over in the end, but that just isnt happening yet, thus the subsidies on gas

[zenith silo]

I think the whole electric vs ice thing is strictly about money not the environment

[astral haven]

like its just trying to save money, be it on energy, health, or natural resources

[zenith silo]

Ev isn't the future it's just making them lots of money 💀

[astral haven]

we said the same thing at the same time, but the environement is also money to be clear

[astral haven]

well it literally is the future

question is how fast do we push for it?

[zenith silo]

Let me rephrase, I don't think it's the future in terms of "being the savour for the environment" that western media is trying to make it seem like

[crisp granite]

mmmm I too think that leaching heavy metals into our soil is better than poisoning the air

end result is the exact fucking same

[astral haven]

🤷 but that doesnt matter, just that it will be cheaper all around be they social or physical side effects

[astral haven]

thats a solved problem tho

[zenith silo]

Tbh I don't care what happens so long as I can continue driving ice until I die

[astral haven]

lithium is not a heavy metal, neither is iron, and copper has always been perfectly recyclable

[astral haven]

sure but allow me to spend half as much on a faster car that costs 1/10th the price per distance it goes

[crisp granite]

unless you plan on dying reasonably soon, seems that won't be an option

[zenith silo]

I can make that happen

🤣

[crisp granite]

the libtards will probably end up banning them because they look scary or something

[astral haven]

eh just because you cant buy a new ice car, doesnt mean you cant just keep using an old one

[zenith silo]

I don't like new cars anyway

I buy 90s crap because I hate the automation

[astral haven]

banning the sale of new ones maybe, but youll be able to keep your model t running as long as you want

[zenith silo]

New cars are too easy and boring to drive

[crisp granite]

the places to fuel them will become fewer and far between
replacement parts, ever scarcer

it'll become a full blown job sourcing parts and fuel

[zenith silo]

I drive stick shift I won't even be able to buy a new car that id actually drive unless I buy a new gr Corolla or something

[astral haven]

hey i find the leaf really fun, and its damn cheap to operate

[zenith silo]

Ev is not fun

I want engine noises not coil whine

[crisp granite]

hard agree
I got a Durango (2022) and
...yeah it is stupidly simple to operate

stick shift is the way

[astral haven]

well that is going to happen faster the more people use ice

[thick elk]

Most cars in europe are still manuals.
Personally I try to do my best to avoid having to use a car at all.

[zenith silo]

Our cx30 turbo is terrifying how easy it is to drive

No wonder distracted driving is so bad

They made cars drive themselves now

[zenith silo]

My entire family are drivers

[astral haven]

your car has coil whine just it is outvolumed by the engine noise,
electric cars intentionally pump in whine thanks to stupid laws, but those noises can be substituted for more interesting sounds if you want

[thick elk]

For me every time I am driving a car in the back of my mind I know what I do is inherintly dangerous and one mistake could have grave consequences.

[zenith silo]

Well that's boring

[astral haven]

thats part of the fun!

[zenith silo]

The danger is what makes racing fun

[astral haven]

it aint fun if its boring

[crisp granite]

it genuinely isn't dangerous

unless you're doing something absolutely wrong

[zenith silo]

It's like 90% of why I want a motorcycle

[crisp granite]

like driving on the sidewalk

that
is very dangerous

[zenith silo]

Driving normally is not at all dangerous

[astral haven]

well statistics stay that is incorrect

[thick elk]

If I want risk I would so something like paragliding, I personally mostly prefer to stay safe.

[astral haven]

takes one person who doesnt keep up on the maintenance of their car at highway speeds to kill 30 people

[crisp granite]

how do you prove that the majority of fatalities and injuries are tied to vehicles and not people

[astral haven]

people are part of the vehicle system, they are currently inseparable

[zenith silo]

To each their own but that sounds boring asf

[astral haven]

but you could say that the 10-100x lower risk of causing an accident per road hour of current self driving systems is a pretty good indicator

[crisp granite]

it's pretty easy to tell a mechanical failure from someone failing to keep their eyes on the road

you failed to answer my question

[crisp granite]

haha see it's the stupid humans behind the wheel

[zenith silo]

Can't wait until I'm legally not allowed to drive because my car isn't auto pilot

[crisp granite]

doesn't change the fact I'd rather do the driving myself

[astral haven]

sure
but its the stupid humans either way

[thick elk]

The problem with self driving systems right now is the type of failures, they may not cause accidents but they do get stuck and require manual intervention / can not be used everywhere.

[astral haven]

if you do in fact do the maintenance, you get killed by the 1/10000 who doesnt

[astral haven]

oh absolutely, they are garbage
but not as garbage as humans

[zenith silo]

If that happens I will genuinely blow my brains out in front of our municipal building

[astral haven]

its like capitalism
sure it has these obvious flaws, but all the other systems have more obvious and deadly flaws

[thick elk]

The problem is they get stuck way too often to be generally usable.

[astral haven]

and that is improving quickly
have you seen comma?

[zenith silo]

If people weren't pampered maybe they would drive better and pay attention

Maybe if we didn't hand out driver licenses like candy to children we would have less accidents

[astral haven]

literally a $1500 strapin to a normal car that you would be hard pressed to tell apart from a perfectly attentive human, which was at last check already far more safe than tesla, and improving far faster

[astral haven]

🤷 too late for that, we built the cities and towns to need cars

[thick elk]

Okay assistive features have come a long way but fully self driving is not there yet.

[zenith silo]

Too late yes, but that doesn't mean it can't be changed

[astral haven]

take longer than just automating the drivers

[zenith silo]

Make licensing stricter and enforce retests every x amount of years

[astral haven]

comma is very very very close

and you can help by just installing it and driving

[zenith silo]

If automatic driving is enforced I'm literally blowing my brains out at a government building

Hopefully that doesn't happen in my lifetime

But I can see it being a possibility

[astral haven]

sure but say that you needed to commute 40 miles a day on a boring highway
if you could just flick the switch whenever you want, would you not at least want the option?

[zenith silo]

No

I don't like automation in vehicles

[astral haven]

yea i dont belive that

[zenith silo]

At all

[astral haven]

how many times have you driven to and from work on a single route?

[zenith silo]

You can not believe it but that's truly my opinion

[zenith silo]

That doesn't change my opinion

[astral haven]

sure but take the premise i gave you and think about that situation

[zenith silo]

I still enjoy the drive

Driving is my bliss

[astral haven]

yes but how many times have you done it?

[zenith silo]

A few hundred times at least

Doesn't mean I don't wanna drive it

[astral haven]

yea do you think it might get boring at the 1000th time?

[zenith silo]

Nope

I like driving dude

[astral haven]

do you think its possible that you could change your mind?

[zenith silo]

I won't say no, but very likely will not

[astral haven]

also keep in mind i said "40 miles on a boring highway"

[zenith silo]

I've driven 14 hours on boring highways I still like the driving

[astral haven]

yes but do you do that every week?

[zenith silo]

I used to LOL

[astral haven]

ah

[zenith silo]

Haven't for a long time

[smoky frigate]

long drives tend to be highly meditative

[zenith silo]

I'm telling you my entire family likes driving

[astral haven]

well do you at least consider that some people may not enjoy that?

[zenith silo]

None of us like the automation

[zenith silo]

Ofc

But I don't want it to become mandated

[steep creek]

After trying adaptive cruise control I like it a lot. My dad doesn’t though lol

[zenith silo]

Which is where I think it could be going

[zenith silo]

My dad removed his cruise control

Nobody in my family ever uses it

[steep creek]

Yah I’m the only one in my family

[astral haven]

now imagine that speed limits on certain highways are raised to 100 miles per hour in the left lane, but its only allowed for automated driving systems?

[zenith silo]

Me and my dad also prefer having no abs

[zenith silo]

Id just speed

I already do anyway

[astral haven]

sure but its still dangerous to people around you

[zenith silo]

We've done worse

[zenith silo]

Correct, you seem to think I care about others safety 🤣

Me and my father sorry lol

[smoky frigate]

for a european, speeding and driving manual is quite common lol

[astral haven]

well you care to some extent, since you arent just shooting everyone you see on the road
consider that the gov might care more than that

[zenith silo]

I don't want to hurt people

But I do drive how I want

I drive faster than most people but "in a safe manor"

[zenith silo]

If that makes any sense

[astral haven]

and the gov cares more about the aggregate "others safety" than you do

[astral haven]

but on average that cant be true

if everyone thinks that, some of them are guaranteed wrong

[zenith silo]

Correct most people aren't able to safely drive fast

It sucks being someone that likes driving in this day

[steep creek]

Risk is greater though, especially in winter

[zenith silo]

Wish I could've been born in the 80s

Gross

I can't wait till I get a motorcycle

[astral haven]

and if you drive safely, its unlikely it will be a problem for at least another 50 years
but eventually the worst automated systems on the road will be so much safer than humans that the risk and remaining people dying will start to get more and more harshly punished

[smoky frigate]

word. there is technically no speed limit on the autobahn, though a looot of exceptions have crept up over the years. there is nothing quite like burning obscene amounts of rubber to get to your destination

[zenith silo]

I agreed however I'm just worried in my lifetime I'll be denied being able to drive because I don't have an "automated vehicle"

If that ever happens I'm done

[astral haven]

eventually driving without an ads system and killing someone will be murder not manslaughter, and then it will again be a choice you have to grapple with

[zenith silo]

Driving is truly my only passion

If you know what you are doing abs doesn't help you

[astral haven]

ADS not abs

automated driving system

[zenith silo]

Oh oh mb

[zenith silo]

Yeah if these becomes the case it's a risk I'll have to take

[astral haven]

thats also not true any more

[zenith silo]

Abs will stop my brakes from locking up

Sometimes you want them to lock up

If I want them to lockup id like to be able to do it rather than a computer fight me and not let it

[astral haven]

with modern cars they are able to ride the brakes more accurately and with faster reaction times than any human can, stopping the car quicker

[zenith silo]

I'm old fashioned I like being in control of everything not reliant on extra systems

I do my own abs and traction control etc

[smoky frigate]

ngl driving a new car tends to feel like ass, they have a mind of their own

[zenith silo]

My father is the same way

[astral haven]

sure but locking up increases the distance it takes you to stop

[zenith silo]

You don't lockup if you need to stop

Fully manual cars are much much much much more enjoyable

[astral haven]

and a modern car can ride closer to locking up than any human is able to

[smoky frigate]

routine is everything

[steep creek]

Someone I know got their car denied because it was too old, it’s worthless now

[zenith silo]

Worthless to you maybe

[steep creek]

In terms of valuation, no one wants to buy it

[zenith silo]

Till the day I die, I'm driving old ice junk with little to no assists

Sounds like a blast

[astral haven]

sure but eventually the laws wont accept your enjoyment over the safety of people

[steep creek]

Same I’d rather take the bus then lol

[zenith silo]

And I either won't abide by them or won't partake in society

[smoky frigate]

that can happen. having a nap for 15 minutes can set you up for several hours again

[latent mural]

True.

[astral haven]

🤷 thats a choice, but it will at least encourage many people to be safer

[zenith silo]

I don't disagree I'm glad the average person will be safer

But I will not ever abide by it

[steep creek]

Yah and way they just go up snowy hills like no problem

[zenith silo]

My 06 xrs takes snowy mountains just fine I'll have you know

[zenith silo]

(fwd no traction control)

[smoky frigate]

I've had so many close calls on snowy roads it's not even funny

[astral haven]

sure but if i tried to drive it without abs and tc i would probably just fall off the side of the mountain

as with 99% of the population

[zenith silo]

Yeah I fully understand

[astral haven]

speaking of i really wish there was a place to learn offensive driving

[zenith silo]

It just sucks that it affects the good drivers

[astral haven]

safely

[zenith silo]

Where I live there are plenty of course s

For both defensive and offensive

[astral haven]

yea and here the closest is 200 miles away

[zenith silo]

I'm gonna put myself in a motorcycle course that teaches both

Local in my city too

[zenith silo]

Mannn that sucks

[astral haven]

yea i live far away from places that matter

[zenith silo]

I just had my leg completely give out on me

Almost smashed my head into my bathroom counter

[astral haven]

thats gonna be a defensive course not an offensive one tho

[zenith silo]

Intent to kill HAHAHA

Probably just driving home too

[astral haven]

i would like to learn and practice driving on ice or around obstacles at speed, but its just not available

[zenith silo]

Need a part time job for in-between shutdowns

So I can buy a motorcycle

And get into a good course for it

I can already ride fine but I can use the course to skip certain license restrictions

• teach me things I might not know/not proficient in

[astral haven]

only a 600 hour drive with my current car lel

and thats assuming i can find charging stops

also thats a joke i would just rent a car

assuming they have cars you can borrow at bridgestone?

[zenith silo]

It's always so weird going from my car to our truck

Our truck is like driving a drunken cloud

It's so floaty I hate it

It's an SUV with truck frame

[astral haven]

Yeah, all of my work vehicles are like that.

[zenith silo]

Even worse it's a Ford.....

[astral haven]

They would all be called Minivans, and all of them are horrifically slow.

[zenith silo]

Our mazda cx30 turbo was surprisingly good feeling

[astral haven]

2 Fords and a Dodge

[zenith silo]

Didn't expect a crossover to have as sporty of a suspension setup

Only good part about dodge trucks is the Cummins

Other than that they are road boats with a frag grenade for a tranny

[astral haven]

They are lower on my list than Aptera but sameish

[zenith silo]

I wanna import a jzx90 but I think my priorities are more so leaning towards Yamaha r1 than importing a vehicle (when I get the money and stability for that stuff)

[astral haven]

I should have saved up enough to buy whichever by the time that both are released

[vagrant pagoda]

https://www.windowscentral.com/hardware/surface/microsoft-cuts-ties-with-the-surface-duo-3-years-after-launch

[astral haven]

72 mile per hour charging at home has me more convinced for the aptera

[vagrant pagoda]

3 years lol

[wheat plume]

;-;

[crisp granite]

that...hurts

a car that doesn't actually get on the road, or the dirt
and do car things

[halcyon willow]

fuck all that, I would get a Miata coupe

[wheat plume]

ASS SSD

[astral haven]

My parents prius lel

[halcyon willow]

https://www.autoblog.com/2019/02/13/mazda-mx-5-miata-coupe-rare-for-sale/

[crisp granite]

I was looking at getting a goldwing

[zenith silo]

I'm gonna get a vitpilen 401 (first bike)

My buddy has the svartpilen it's fun to ride

My grandfather owned a gold wing

Not a fan of cruiser bikes

I like cafe racers/street bikes

Naked bikes too

I will own a z1000 or r1

Just a matter of time till I own one of those 2 piss missiles

[crisp granite]

exactly why I'd be looking for one

also...yk
could put a backpack or some groceries in the storage compartments

never really been excited by donorcycles

[zenith silo]

I love em

[crisp granite]

they're so stupid

[zenith silo]

I can't wait to do it

🤣

[crisp granite]

pfff

yeah

[zenith silo]

Where I live you'd never be able to stretch a liter bikes legs

But shit does the r1 just fulfil my every want

[crisp granite]

just live in a major city where there's a gas station every kilometre

(you'll need them every kilometre)

[zenith silo]

I mean speed wise

[crisp granite]

ah, even better

[zenith silo]

Our roads aren't the greatest for anything above 250kmh

[crisp granite]

...they're barely safe for 100

driving in LA wasn't bad

then again
driving in NYC wasn't bad either

[zenith silo]

Where I live is mostly Twisties with cliffs on one side and a mountain on the other

Once I get a 600cc I'll decide whether or not a liter bike would be feasible

If it is, r1 will be mine

Until than I need to just get my first bike even...

Which I'm 100% certain will be a vitpilen 401

The r1 just sounds

Absurd in all the right ways

Genuine music to my ears

I love both ends of the 4 cyl sounds

[wheat plume]

:P

[zenith silo]

The deep crossplane and high pitched flatplane, both sound amazing imo

Not the biggest V fan myself

I prefer inline

I4-i6 are all of my favorite sounding engines

(I like Japanese crap)

5cyl is just

So good

[wheat plume]

https://youtu.be/MxtAh9xkgxo

Installing a Sonnet Harmoni G3 Accelerator Card onto an iMac

somehow , he managed to find one of these still factory new

[zenith silo]

That sounds amazing

https://youtu.be/LAoq8YKNQLQ?si=6jFpQm7GO4LyTPfv=130

I hope I time stamped that

If not go to like 2:10

The r1 is just such a good sounding bike

[reef patrol]

Very jealous.

[wheat plume]

ahah!

I love how clean the install is too

and the way the board for the firewire just slips right in and over the other board is so elegant

[reef patrol]

Oh. It's for an earlier G3 than I have. I have a 400mhz one I think.

Still waiting for good OS9 emulation.

[frozen ingot]

R1 engine has a crossplane crank like most V8 engines

nobody else does an inline-4 like that

[wheat plume]

Aright,
Time to install OpenBSD
On an SSD
In an iMac G3
Action Retro

https://youtu.be/rT71HwfiM_A

[zenith silo]

The flatplane i4s still sound amazing but crossplane is just

Sooo good

[reef patrol]

Heresy

OS9 or bust

[wheat plume]

lol

[steep creek]

@dawn epoch I wanted to ask, you find the mac display to be comfortable to use for a long time? Have heard mini-led can cause some eye strain

[astral haven]

thats theoretically impossible unless you change the brightness, who did you hear that from lel

[steep creek]

lol just read it online, didn’t bother fact checking much

Yeah tried it briefly the display gets proper bright

Dune with surround was quite the experience as well

Probably yeah, worth a watch if it happens

[astral haven]

I am extremely disappointed by the specs of the telephoto cam on the upcoming iphone, pretty sure it has sealed me into buying sony or samsung

like ffs zoom lenses are lower quality than fixed lenses, but somehow it seems that apple is chosing to match the specs that sony chose for the short end of their zoom...

[steep creek]

Gotcha thanks for answering. I’ll probably look into getting a mac at some point

[astral haven]

oh shoot no
sony is 2.3-2.8 85-125mm zoom
the apple is an 85mm 2.8 only
yikes

at least its a slightly larger sensor

[steep creek]

Dang sad to see the situation over there

[steep creek]

Hah

I love hiking it’s so peaceful

[pale sigil]

Replaced all my Ethernet cables

I really hope thats my issue is them and not my router.

[vagrant pagoda]

https://www.techradar.com/pro/massive-1tb-ram-coming-soon-as-samsung-debuts-largest-memory-module-ever-but-it-wont-be-cheap

[ashen spindle]

https://www.aida64.com/news/aida64-v692-zen5-radeon-7700-7800-7900

so soon we might get aida leaks of zen5 and sapphire/emerald rapids workstations

[rough osprey]

i need this in ma phone

[astral haven]

fkn samsung stopped even selling phones with 16GB of ram, now they only sell up to 12GB

[rough osprey]

unusable

[astral haven]

https://www.anandtech.com/show/20049/epos-winds-down-former-sennheiser-gaming-headphone-business

what a tragedy

[severe phoenix]

Hmm, got Fiber but the results are truly weird

Upload is slower than cable - on my Desktop

Same equipment. Makes zero sense.

My Laptop can get the full speed it should - however, download speeds are wildly inconsistent. Going from full speed to no speed to medium speed, back to no speed.

Fiber or Cable, the Ehternet port on my PC didn't change. So it's weird it's having issues.

[astral haven]

sounds like the router is choking or its still setting up on the isp side?

[severe phoenix]

Could be the router infact, I have a Switch arriving tomorrow, now technically today to try something

Weird my Laptop doesn't choke as hard though

What I did try was direct connecting from the ONT to the Ethernet port on my PC, but that never resolves

So it doesn't act like a modem exactly

My upload weirdly also hits the full speed it should

Just not download

[final flame]

I wonder what will happen to the Drop products, as those were actually good

[astral haven]

well yes thats what a modem does
you would have to set the static IP that your isp gave you or set in the router?

yes and no
yes for a public static ip

but no your routers ip isnt always the ip your isp presents to the public

but yea that is less likely the issue here

well at least its cinebench and not prime95 lel

[fair gull]

afaik all non pro iphone will just have usb-c 2.0 so no speed change its literally just a new port. the pro models supposedly get usb-4 compatibility

new shieltv would be sort of pointless with a new soc as its cloud streaming only anyway

[old marlin]

new regular shield is not completely unlikely

jumping on the steamdeck clone bandwagon

would be funny though

with gaming on arm

[zenith silo]

Ah yes, basically forcing people (unless they want the slowest charging phone) to pay a premium for what everyone else has

Classic apple

[fair gull]

why charging

this is purely data speeds

[steep creek]

Believe it was rumored that the pro models can charge faster as well

[zenith silo]

Oh so the charge speed is still limited even on pro?

[fair gull]

from what i heard the difference is data speed both support PD

[steep creek]

Never mind this probably wrong

[zenith silo]

Nothing like finally adapting usb-c, just to limit charge speed to be like lightning because fuck you

[old marlin]

it would always be limited

otherwise you would sht down your countries power grid

just like

[zenith silo]

😐

[old marlin]

assume they will all be 20W

[zenith silo]

From what I've read, they will limit it to the same as their old lightning ones are

[old marlin]

since there is no mini

yea so 20W

[zenith silo]

Maybe I'm out of touch but that's disgustingly slow for a 1000$+ phone

[old marlin]

idk

does it really matter that much

what difference will it make realistically

[zenith silo]

If I need to charge my phone really quick before I leave

Id like for it not to take 8 hours

[knotty summit]

Then buy something other than iphone

[cursive summit]

Still T239 eh, or, well, the rumoured "new" SoC isn't there yet

[shadow minnow]

I am sure next iPhone is going to come with thunderbolt 5

Ngl would be pretty cool if they actually implemented it in next MacBook, we will see I suppose

[cursive summit]

Not bad

Thunderbolt has always been impressive

I like that USB4 is getting prepared for a tarnishing with that little asterisk

Soon there'll be an USB4.2 gen 3 rev. 2.1

Reading some comments, apparently there was a connector that was competing with Thunderbolt...? https://egpu.io/forums/custom-egpu-chassis/oculink-what-it-is-why-you-need-it-and-where-to-get-it/

Never heard of this, but apparently TB5 makes it obsolete, far superior technology

Looking at a product that has this connector, just looks like a weird displayport looking hole

[ashen spindle]

Yeah until TB5 has licensing costs or issues that tb4 had or anything and oculink stays around

[mild dome]

TBH, it feels to me that it should've been regulated for companies to makeup standards only to later add additional "revisions" of the new version that were actually revisions of the old versions but had 1 or 2 minor features

Like it seems to be an attempt to confuse customers

[wheat plume]

late but great xd https://youtu.be/-6T3FgkqoIQ

[cursive summit]

So, apple event's in 7 hours eh https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZiP1l7jlIIA&pp=ygULQXBwbGUgZXZlbnQ%3D

[fair gull]

its a pcie port for inter server connection

[cursive summit]

Wonder if there's an early transcript of whatever they announce

[fair gull]

and its been used quite a lot already just not in consumer stuff

[cursive summit]

I can't be bothered to listen to a bunch of Apple propaganda

And also a lot of overselling

"We adopted USB-C, a groundbreaking move for us to bring universal connectors to the apple platform, never done before, absolutely incredible"

Like, I'm sorry but just give me the slides

I wonder if they'll bring anything of any interest this time around

iphones I couldn't care less for

Will they talk about macbooks or macs in general at all?

[old marlin]

like just consider what kind of thing they would need to show to be interesting to you

[cursive summit]

The day Apple adopts proper discrete GPUs for their platform, then I'll be interested in getting whatever they offer

[old marlin]

aka

[cursive summit]

Never

[old marlin]

won't happen any time soon

[cursive summit]

Just interested in what they cook up

M2 has been caught up to from what I've seen in benchmarks by Intel and AMD

Qualcomm less so

[old marlin]

idk new iphone already a meme

[cursive summit]

Wonder if M3 is any good

[old marlin]

because people are posting the most mild leaks in existance

and then be like omg I have to buy it

[old marlin]

bet as good as M2

[cursive summit]

Well M2 wasn't great at all

At least M2 got really laughed at, at launch

M1 was the big fish

[young pecan]

What leaks do we even have for the next gen iPhones?

[cursive summit]

It's lighter

[old marlin]

usb c

[cursive summit]

By what, 1 gram?

[old marlin]

will have an "action button"

[young pecan]

Action button?

Like Activator style?

Honestly I just want activator back. That’s like the only real reason to jailbreak.

[old marlin]

idk wtf that is

but how do people get so excited over a programmable button

[young pecan]

Oh so it’s only one button? Not like combos and stuff?

[old marlin]

idk

we don't know shit yet afaik

[cursive summit]

Saw a funny meme this morning, don't know where I saw it, can't find it

But there's this https://www.macrumors.com/2023/09/10/iphone-mini-might-be-discontinued-this-week/

[young pecan]

Lame if true. Activator was basically just iPhone macros.

Really nice software.

[old marlin]

like expect it to be a single button with very limited programmability

[young pecan]

Mega cringe.

Ngl tho USB C, been way too long. Good job EU.

Looking back like this makes me wonder where phones are going to go.

Smartphones are good, but they’ll die eventually. Do really wonder what’ll end up dealing the killing blow.

[cursive summit]

Ah yeah that's where I saw this, in WSB

[reef patrol]

Oi I already posted that.

[cursive summit]

Sorry, Andy, it happens

The classy way of obtaining information on all things tech

If it makes stocks go up or down, it's there

[raw zephyr]

3 likes and you are one fo them

[steep creek]

Craig doing his stuff is my favorite part of the events

[ashen spindle]

https://www.reddit.com/r/nvidia/comments/16giidy/ive_discovered_that_all_4090s_clock_stretch_below/

[vagrant pagoda]

https://www.techradar.com/pro/samsung-has-a-crazy-idea-for-ai-that-might-just-work-add-a-processor-inside-ram

[ashen spindle]

Crazy idea
it’s just an old idea

[vagrant pagoda]

Yeah going back to 8 bit style everything uses the same ram

[severe phoenix]

Damn Comcast lets you cancel easy these days

Called up. 5 minutes. Done. Canceled, partial refund for unused time.

Used to be tearing hair out.

[vagrant pagoda]

Depends on why you're canceling

[severe phoenix]

Just wanted to cancel, got Fiber.

[gusty kiln]

Still no multi gig service in my area

[rough osprey]

oh no

[severe phoenix]

n yeah, got the 2.5 gig service

Now I just need a multi-gig router because the one they supplies limited to 1 GB believe it or not

They actually sell a plan they don't have the equipment for

I mean I plan to use mine anyways, but that's pretty fucked up

[young pecan]

I mean I kinda get why all things considered. If you need that much bandwidth odds are good you already need to either build manually or consult a company for a network rebuild anyway.

So why give what is likely not the right choice or outright trash.

I mean that's assuming we're talking a business plan, if somehow Comcast is offering 2.5 gig to consumers then no that's brain dented.

Though like... it's Comcast, heavy doubt they even have the capability to do mass 2.5 gig unless they did a stealth company rebuild while nobody was looking too closely.

[severe phoenix]

It's a home plan

By fidium

Not business

[young pecan]

Huh...

Ok yeah that's pretty goddamn brain dented.

[gusty kiln]

How much are you paying for this 2.5g plan?

[severe phoenix]

75$/mo

[gusty kiln]

Oh wow that's pretty good if it's not one of those bait and switch plans where they charge you more after 12 months

[young pecan]

Wtf? That's US dollars?

[severe phoenix]

After 12 months it's 85$, after another 12, it's 95. No contract.

[gusty kiln]

Ahhhh

[severe phoenix]

Comcast was charging me 100$/mo(2 year contract), for 1Gbps and 40Mbps up.

So this is significantly better.

[gusty kiln]

Classic ISP tactics

[severe phoenix]

Still cheaper than Comcrap

[gusty kiln]

Yeah

I'm on verizon 1gig

Around 100

[severe phoenix]

No Verizon around here

[young pecan]

Ok ok but like how tf is that being offered?

[severe phoenix]

???

N oidea htey offer it but expect cusomers to have their own hardware to support it I guess

[young pecan]

Great value and all that.

[severe phoenix]

Looking into getting a MikroTik RB5009UG+S+in perhaps.

[young pecan]

What's the upload?

[gusty kiln]

Market share

[severe phoenix]

Symmetrical

[young pecan]

AYO?!

[severe phoenix]

So 2.5Gbps upload too

Yeah

[young pecan]

Tf you mean 2.5 gig upload?

O_O

[severe phoenix]

I mean it

[gusty kiln]

Fiber is usually symmetrical

[severe phoenix]

I can only do 1 gig right now because my router, need to fix that, but uploading stuff is insanely fast now

it's silly

[pale sigil]

I have symmetrical atm

But the fuckers will remove it after my trial which is lame

[severe phoenix]

Like I used to upload these 5 minute Shadowplay videos that took 20 minutes or more to upload on Comcast

[young pecan]

Ay ay, I'm in Aussieland and I have HFC.

[severe phoenix]

They upload in 30 seconds at 1Gig

[young pecan]

I'd kill for big upload like that.

[gusty kiln]

Ooff

[pale sigil]

ATM I have 500/500

[young pecan]

All of my servers need that upload.

[gusty kiln]

Aus is almost basement tier for internet

[severe phoenix]

It took years, I've been waiting

So finally

I can remove the upload cap on my Emby server

[pale sigil]

But when I end my trial they nerf my upload to 60 😦

[severe phoenix]

and let my friends enjoy full quality

[pale sigil]

I was very sad to hear this happens

[young pecan]

Emby is a weird software. It's always so close to greatness.

Never really there but so close.

[severe phoenix]

I like it over Plex

[gusty kiln]

Wait is it a modem/router combo?

[severe phoenix]

But yeah, before I had ot limit to like 14Mbps upload so 4K stuff transcoded hard, now people own't need transcoding other than HDR

No

It's ONT to the Router

I have my own wireless AP

[young pecan]

Has Emby fixed the stupid bullshit where I have to manage all of my users myself?

[severe phoenix]

My router however is only a 1Gb router so I need a new one

[gusty kiln]

Ah

[severe phoenix]

That's where the pricey stuff comes in

[pale sigil]

I'm planning on getting gigabit when my trial ends but these what the max upload will be

[severe phoenix]

I got two options I am looking at now. A MikroTik RB5009UG+S+in + SFP Module, or a used 200$ ASUS Router that has two 2.5Gbe ports

[young pecan]

There is always the UDM Pro SE. Not the greatest router ever but the glass panel is invaluable.

[severe phoenix]

Lol

nah

The Pro SE is kinda a jokme

I love UniFi

But yeah

[gusty kiln]

I definitely want a house with cat5/6 on every room with a huge ass switch

[severe phoenix]

So my ERX is so old, but pretty decent results

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/828342888341045328/1151007756459982878/image.png

[young pecan]

I mean if you can find a cheap one on marketplace or something. Not a bad choice if the price is good.

[severe phoenix]

Can't wait to get a router that can give me the full speed.

[young pecan]

Looked at an Edgerouter or smth? UISP is really nice these days.

[pale sigil]

Patch panel baby

[gusty kiln]

Get the gayner rog one

[young pecan]

Ooh. Topic of patch panels.

[severe phoenix]

Edgerouters don't support that Aeon

None of them have two 2.5gbe ports

[young pecan]

No but they do have 10gig.

[severe phoenix]

Nah

You're misunderstanding

[young pecan]

The price isn't substantially higher to go 10gig, especially with cards like ConnectX 3s floating around.

[gusty kiln]

Seems like a lot of work

[young pecan]

https://patchbox.com/ Patch box, ayyyy!

If I ever get the ability to justify one of these I'm going to be so stoked.

[severe phoenix]

Yeah those don't exist

I've been looking the last few days

They might have a 10Gbe in, SPF maybe, but only 1gbe ports

[young pecan]

Yeah I mean SFP.

[severe phoenix]

SFP*, but even then it won't give you 2.5gbe

[young pecan]

Personally I'm going with a US-16-XG for my 10gig stuff at home, that does full 10gig.

[gusty kiln]

8port 2.5gbe might be enough for a house

[severe phoenix]

That's a Siwtch, you need a router here

So Fiber needs a router to negotiate, you can't go ONT > Switch > Router

[young pecan]

Sure you do, and both the Pro SE and some Egderouters can support 10gig SFP ports. Run an SFP DAC.

Cheap and easy.

[severe phoenix]

You're talking about driving up to hundreds and hundreds of dollars lmao

[astral haven]

40g and an adapter fam

[severe phoenix]

You're so out of touch

😛

[gusty kiln]

I'm just taking about a whole house with cat5e in every room

[young pecan]

Pffff, what's hundreds when it comes to glorious NETWORKING! >:D

[gusty kiln]

8 ports might be enough for every room

[astral haven]

100 gigabit is hundreds

[young pecan]

That just sounds like more excuses to do faster LAN.

Link aggregation here we gooooooooooooooo!

[severe phoenix]

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B09GW641SL/?coliid=I2ZG6HXDQANSIS&colid=11239QVL62VKT&psc=1&ref_=list_c_wl_lv_ov_lig_dp_it This is what I'm looking at. Use a SFP to 10gbe from the ONT, then I'll have 2.5gbe for the rest

Only my PC supports 2.5Gbe anyways so

Half the price of a UDM SE too

[young pecan]

Yeah that's true. I mean the management is going to be F tier like most setups, but it'll absolutely work.

Checked out marketplace yet?

[astral haven]

define management
id prefer to have switches to do whatever I want than not have them

[young pecan]

Management in being able to manage the entire network.

[severe phoenix]

I mean that's a router not a Switch

[young pecan]

No shit, I'm very aware of what a router and switch are.

[severe phoenix]

It literally can do pretty much anything the DMSE can do

[astral haven]

and mikrotiks switches have better management than most routers

[young pecan]

Iirc Mikrotik does more L3 switching than L2 by their market cap, no?

[severe phoenix]

Well it cost the same if I went 1Gb or 2gb, so of course I went 2Gb

[gusty kiln]

[astral haven]

the one big missing feature is filtering natively on the router

[young pecan]

Is this the same one that doesn't know what wifi standards are?

KEK

[astral haven]

no, but they just have the l3 features available if you want to enable them

[gusty kiln]

Just tell her to get the next iphone

[severe phoenix]

The other option is ROG Rapture GT-AX6000 by ASUS, to go the cheaper rout. Used at 200$. Has two 2.5Gbe ports, and I'd just disable the WiFi. Flash it with a custom routing software or something, be golden. That'd be the easier way.

But also Asus

[young pecan]

No shit? Good job Mikrotik.

[gusty kiln]

Maybe she more of a social engineering hacker

[young pecan]

Bro you're thinking too hard. How tf do you claim any IT knowledge without knowing what wifi standards are?

[astral haven]

absolutely, on the other hand since the features are running in cpu they are dog slow, but 🤷 theres always tradeoffs

[vagrant pagoda]

https://www.extremetech.com/computing/amds-first-hybrid-processor-has-been-photographed

[astral haven]

well there are some people who hyperspecialize in specific fields

[gusty kiln]

[cursive summit]

But would they beat Snowden in a fistfight

[young pecan]

Bro please you are not telling me you somehow Stealth 100 through the entire stack to become a Kubernetes engineer for a major company and stay oblivious to wifi standards. That is too much.

[gusty kiln]

Well she can stalk people's profile and guess passwords

[astral haven]

i mean for kubernetes you absolutely could

[young pecan]

I mean how do you not just stumble across wifi standards in random research?

[cursive summit]

Anyways children, while you bicker https://www.businessinsider.com/ai-builds-software-under-7-minutes-less-than-dollar-study-2023-9

Learn from AI

[astral haven]

eh someone else always dealt with the hardware?

[cursive summit]

Go do software dev

[young pecan]

That's my question. Either you go through school and that's in basic IT, or you do self research and in that case how tf can you even avoid it?

[vagrant pagoda]

Backend vs physical

[fickle ore]

why r u shittalking ur friend tho

[vagrant pagoda]

My ex works for apple as software engineer

[astral haven]

if you went through the software path and just later started doing the orchestrating work then why would you go back to school?

[vagrant pagoda]

I've had to help her install hardware lol

[young pecan]

You deserve to get shittalked if you're calling yourself the greatest hacker in the world without knowing what wifi standards are.

[cursive summit]

Cause we all hate the fucker

[vagrant pagoda]

Like GPU upgrade

[cursive summit]

Love to hate

[fickle ore]

good friend.

[young pecan]

Fortunately not my friend.

[young pecan]

I mean in the beginning stages, y'know?

[vagrant pagoda]

My aunt is head of cyber security for NASA at Kennedy and she could probably never figure out a Xbox lol

[halcyon willow]

anyone know how to stop buffering? while watching movies and stuff

[astral haven]

of software engineering? why would they go over wifi?

[cursive summit]

But did you tell them to bugger off?

[young pecan]

No no like IT interest in general.

Wifi standards have been an active point of discussion ever since wifi was a thing, at some stage you get into IT and idk, float around researching and eventually stumble across stuff?

[astral haven]

yea but noone is interested in everything in IT
its not physically possible to learn everything unless you are an LLM

[cursive summit]

I mean tbf after that webcam that one time, I can understand why the desperation vibes

No cap

[halcyon willow]

get a sugar momma lol

[cursive summit]

https://tenor.com/view/oogway-my-time-has-come-gif-8019684

I'm just messing with you

[fickle ore]

You calling someone who is bad at social stuff sad and pathetic. Time to look into the mirror and think really hard what do you really see. 😮

[astral haven]

fyi, you can in fact do 10 gig over wifi 5
it just requires bonding 2 8x8 connections, but shh

[young pecan]

Bro please what even has that many antennas for MU-MIMO.

Man is about to use all of his PCIe lanes on wifi cards.

[astral haven]

no need for mumimo if you only have 1 client

[young pecan]

I meeeeeeeeeeeeeeeean. Yeah.

Scuffed household but yeah.

[astral haven]

definetly no shot of doing 10 gig to more than 1 client on wifi 5, the multi client overhead is faaaaaaaaar too much no matter how many connections you do

[young pecan]

Just install like 300 access points in the building.

Fuck it.

[astral haven]

the problem is they share the spectrum physically

[young pecan]

I mean you could do some super weird channel steering nonsense for it, no?

[fickle ore]

Yeah sure, but you also need to stop being jealous of her wealth. Let her spend. Because you're just jealous no matter how you try to spin it off

[halcyon willow]

lesbian?

[young pecan]

Ah yes. Someone being creepy and a brag at all times == jealous of wealth.

That tracks.

[gusty kiln]

Unwanted advanced are unwanted though....

[young pecan]

Bro made the worst take imaginable to defend someone doing unwanted advances. Mega kek.

[halcyon willow]

average wooting member thought process

[young pecan]

Wym? You have to do totalitarian defense of everyone regardless of context or situation, how else will the paradox of tolerance take over and ruin everything?

[cursive summit]

Oi what's this, Dag got called out on a bad take?

This is good spice for my ramen

Come on keep it going lads, spice my food up

[young pecan]

No people can't take the centrist approach, that's too complex for the binary choices that modern brain power can make.

[fickle ore]

I never have bad takes

[young pecan]

Bad Take 2: Electric Boogaloo

[gusty kiln]

When wifi 7 coming to devices?

[young pecan]

I mean what?

[gusty kiln]

Gib 40gbps

[young pecan]

Wait it's 40 gig?

[cursive summit]

I don't recall when was the thing I linked, but iPhone 15 is supposed to be Wifi7 compatible

[gusty kiln]

Theoretical max

[fickle ore]

She complains about her friend making near 1 mil/y, and thats somehow the cause of making housing crisis worse. Idc about the romantic side, but you only focused on that bc woke @young pecan

[gusty kiln]

Probably won't see that fast

[cursive summit]

I imagine that Snapdragon 8 gen 3 will also be wifi7 compatible

Compatible =/= has it

[steep creek]

i believe 16 is wifi 7 compatible. the 15 is wifi6E, unless im wrong hah

[astral haven]

there are 29 20mhz channels on wifi 5
each channel maxes out at 433mbps afaik?
thats a total of 12gbps maximum
any time you have more radios on the same channels, they are sharing some of those 29 channels

[gusty kiln]

Aparently max of 46 gbps theoretical

[cursive summit]

Wifi 6e is barely used anyways

[final flame]

@gusty kiln my cable is done being made

[gusty kiln]

[young pecan]

No, when people take their 800k a year and can't save shit because they have no self control and constantly brag about it only to proceed to do unwanted advances and not educate themselves I tend to call that idiotic. Very low toleranec for idiocy.

[cursive summit]

What's the point of 7

[gusty kiln]

Oooooooo

[steep creek]

yah i get its fast but needs to be adopted first

[fickle ore]

U have ZERO reason to complain about that online unless ur jealous and think you'd do better if you had that income

0

[gusty kiln]

Is that a mid connector? For connecting several other patch cables? Also nice color matching

[astral haven]

fasterrer and more efficient

[cursive summit]

I am a Fym simp and I 100% believe that Fym would do better with that income

[final flame]

Yea the minixlr allows me to adapt to anything, balanced and unbalanced

[fickle ore]

Shes rich, she can do whatever the fk she wants kek

try do better

[young pecan]

I mean it's pretty fuckin' easy to do better with that income. Immediately put 50% of it into an account for investment and don't touch it. Another 25% into retirement fund, that last 25% is what you have to spend yearly.

Idk, took me 30 seconds to work that out.

[gusty kiln]

Cosplaying rich ccp officials

[steep creek]

lol.

[fickle ore]

lol no

she'll just rent that so there is no crisis

[gusty kiln]

Nice, I like how they take a picture for you before sending it lol

[astral haven]

14 doesnt even have 6e, somehow doubt they will jump to 7 in just 2 gens

[cursive summit]

Before you start talking about crisis and CCP and whatever

[young pecan]

Show me you have a 6th grade understanding of economics without saying the words.

[cursive summit]

Dag lives in Finland, Fym's from Canada

[fickle ore]

so we all say, but then again like over 50% of lottery winners go poor

[cursive summit]

Different countries

Different problems

Like Finland's tax problems

[gusty kiln]

And the girl is in denmark

[young pecan]

That'd be a really good point to make if it actually meant anything or said anything.

[steep creek]

yah i could very well be wrong, just my ipad has 6E, so they may just jump ahead to get iphone on track too

[fickle ore]

Chill, I'm just defending random online stranger friend bc I hate bullying and witchhunt

[gusty kiln]

I also wish I have a tri-band router instead

[astral haven]

yea thats very much not the iphone way lel
7 isnt even ratified, apple tends to have the wifi standard in public use for a year before they add it

[gusty kiln]

Or a tri-band mesh network

[cursive summit]

And you are bullying Fym you heathen

[fickle ore]

Na

Im jealous as fuck a lot of times too

[young pecan]

Right and we're ignoring the rest of the context that doesn't favour this rando because that flies against your position. This Is The Way?

[fickle ore]

Just admit it and live on

[astral haven]

thats called wifi 6e or 7

[steep creek]

true yea they like to wait it out, guess we'll see what comes out in a few hours

[gusty kiln]

Yeah i don't have that kek

[cursive summit]

Wait so you are jealous of a person that has the ability to hook up with a person that goes to michelin restaurants

It all makes sense

[fickle ore]

idc about the romantic side bro, second hand infos and all, I'm not commenting on that and will refrain

[young pecan]

I mean yeah that's fine but I wasn't talking about that.

[gusty kiln]

I rather buy wagyu and cook it at home than go to a Michelin restaurant

Bought $250 worth once

It was gewwwwwwwwddddddd

[cursive summit]

Just for clarification, is it a Gordon Ramsay levels of michelin, or a good food stall levels of michelin?

[fickle ore]

I would too if I earned 800k per year 😄

[cursive summit]

There are cheap ass street food stalls with michelin stars

[fickle ore]

Heck I would take my gf too

[gusty kiln]

Cleanest tastings beef ever

[young pecan]

The fuck why? Bro just hire a cook.

[gusty kiln]

Imagine applying your life priorities to others

[fickle ore]

idk, fun experiences

[young pecan]

The cook that is in that restaurant is worth like 130k a year working full time. You need them for maybe 3 meals a day. Good value go brrrrrr.

[cursive summit]

Fam, PM me their number, I'll date them

[fickle ore]

Same

[cursive summit]

I'd kill for having good kebab from a stall every day

Don't care for the restaurants

Just give me don kebab

[young pecan]

Good take.

[gusty kiln]

Just go to Germany

Plenty of kabeb

[cursive summit]

I have my own great stalls here

I just need the money part

[gusty kiln]

Or turkey for doner

[young pecan]

Restaurants are usually either good or for pretentious dickheads with more money than sense. Paying for the experience is just the most bottom tier F way of getting scammed out of your money. Mediocre food, needing to go to a place, and the 'experience'. Best scam you can run, the kind that has willing idiots.

[gusty kiln]

Man I love Mediterranean food

[fickle ore]

I mean being jealous is normal, all ppl feel it probably every day 😄 Freaking co-workers earn 10 % more than me is enough to set it off

[cursive summit]

I remember 13$ restaurant breakfast menu that was just a single sandwich, and it tasted watered down as well

[gusty kiln]

Part time?

[steep creek]

man the kebab shop owners are so friendly and wholesome, makes me happy to order food from them hah

[young pecan]

What this is called typically is projection. "I'm jealous so everyone else must be as well", that's not how it works.

[cursive summit]

5$ buys me a large kebab shawarma combo

[astral haven]

considering you are paid in canadian rubles tho, that likely means you dont live in the us where you can be put in debt for life for common medical issues

[gusty kiln]

Damn

[fickle ore]

Okay Im just projecting lmao

[cursive summit]

https://tenor.com/view/oscars-standing-ovation-clap-clapping-applause-gif-5089552

Good to know this was all just but an act

[young pecan]

Oh no some people will share the jealousy, but it's not a catch all term. Jealousness only works if it's something the person gives a shit about.

[cursive summit]

You had us fooled dag

[young pecan]

I'm like 100% sure when I go buy my wingsuit that fuck all people are ever going to be jealous of me.

[cursive summit]

Fuck I just ate a bowl of ramen and now I want shawarma kebab

[young pecan]

No damn way.

[astral haven]

???
what makes you think its an act???

[gusty kiln]

I got left over beef chow fun for lunch

[cursive summit]

What's the fun part

[gusty kiln]

The noodles

[cursive summit]

Oo

[young pecan]

You need a wingsuit as well. Wingsuit good.

[ashen spindle]

so what are the bets aside apple will claim usbC as their invention in an hour and also compare the iphone15 Soc against 5 year old chips again?

[fickle ore]

Doable in CA, prob not in DK cuz there are no woods

[young pecan]

https://www.reddit.com/r/BeAmazed/comments/mlwrep/wingsuit_in_a_snowstorm_at_night/ You really telling me this man isn't fucking terrifying?

[cursive summit]

I'll switch genders if you buy me doner kebab every day, and I promise daily hugs and cuddles

[gusty kiln]

Flat and chewy

[cursive summit]

Okay now that looks banging

[astral haven]

the question is how much are you willing to sacrifice in the short term to have that faster?

[fickle ore]

everything is the right answer

[cursive summit]

I take that as a yes please

That's not a problem anymore

[gusty kiln]

But they loud

[cursive summit]

Doner kebab is more important

Oh

Well that just makes it easier

Yes please, just buy me that kebab

[young pecan]

Ok look, Vex. I might be about to blow your fucking mind.

[cursive summit]

Oi?

Should I stop trolling yet?

[young pecan]

Halal snack pack. Kebab meat, chips, cheese, sauce.

S tier fusion food.

[cursive summit]

Okay but, how much

[gusty kiln]

Halal poutine

[young pecan]

Idk like $15 for 2 days worth?

[cursive summit]

That looks like a lot of cheese

[cursive summit]

Wait, that's 2 days?

[young pecan]

Dude it's massive.

[cursive summit]

That'd last me like 5 minutes

[young pecan]

Wait this one is small.

Hang on.

[cursive summit]

I KNEW IT

[young pecan]

Here you go.

MEAT

[cursive summit]

My food expertise senses were tingling

Okay that's just 20 mins of food

[young pecan]

HSPs are glorious.

[gusty kiln]

What is "kabeb meat"

[young pecan]

Doner.

[cursive summit]

Wtf are you showing me, lunch bento boxes?

[halcyon willow]

oh that looks good

[halcyon willow]

this too

[cursive summit]

He stuffed Khabib in it

[gusty kiln]

Like lamb?beef?

[young pecan]

Yeah. Beef, lamb, chicken, mix usually.

[gusty kiln]

Gyros here are just beef/lamb meatloaf

[young pecan]

Depends what you want.

Personally I do chicken with hot chili and BBQ.

[gusty kiln]

I'm in the US btw

[cursive summit]

He lives in the country that doesn't exist

Or well, shouldn't

[gusty kiln]

[young pecan]

'STRAYA

[cursive summit]

OI MATE

Ayo what are you talking about darling

I might be easy to get but you ain't calling me dog

[gusty kiln]

Think me and carm are the only ones currently here in the us

[cursive summit]

Dog is extra, 2 kebabs per day

[young pecan]

But nah, HSPs are awesome.

[cursive summit]

On the bright side lads and lassies, Apple event in 1 hour

Something to watch

[young pecan]

Gonna be good to replace my phone again.

[ashen spindle]

watching it to see bexin cope about no M3

[cursive summit]

That would have been leaked if it existed

From what I saw it'll just be the new phones and new smartwatches

[gusty kiln]

The apple event started?

[ashen spindle]

oh it exists just not going to release yet

in an hour

[crisp granite]

You’re like a puppy looking for treats

[cursive summit]

I prefer San Holo ngl

[ashen spindle]

if we get (un)lucky new iphone soc is on N3 and that will be fun but otherwise nothing much

[steep creek]

unrelated but i really like your profile picture lol

[cursive summit]

I think you misspelled "threat"

[crisp granite]

no no

Fym looks for treats and headpats

[young pecan]

The missile knows where it is because it knows where it isn't.

And it knows where it isn't because it knows where it is.

[cursive summit]

Okay but that is only for 1 person in a relationship, and I reserve that for myself

[crisp granite]

nope

[cursive summit]

You wanna fight bruv?

[crisp granite]

You also get treats and headpats

[ashen spindle]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZiP1l7jlIIA for in an hour

[cursive summit]

I'll shove yer head in the bin you knobhead

Menage a quatrois?

Wtf is french

[halcyon willow]

https://tenor.com/view/no-monica-ja-rule-fastand-furious-race-car-gif-4965570

[cursive summit]

Ok mate, you are not included

[halcyon willow]

lmfao

[cursive summit]

Well anyways that was enough to diverge conversations

Back to normal scheduling

[halcyon willow]

stop simping

[gusty kiln]

@cursive summit

Is this you

[cursive summit]

Lol how did you find it

[crisp granite]

Vexx has always simped for me

[cursive summit]

I am nor confirming, nor denying

[crisp granite]

It’s quite cute

[halcyon willow]

heard

[cursive summit]

I don't like Amber Heard

I do like Debil here

[gusty kiln]

Always randomly in feed

[fickle ore]

but his gf didnt like that so hes arrested now rip

[cursive summit]

You take that back you lil bugger

[halcyon willow]

light mode is worse than simping

[cursive summit]

Algo is pretty weird nowadays in YT

[halcyon willow]

punishable by up to 5 years in prison

[cursive summit]

I get a lot of things I don't care for in the feed

[crisp granite]

it is a term of endearment, you twat

be grateful

[cursive summit]

Fam that used to be my nick that I don't use right now

Bringing that back WILL NOT be tolerated

[gusty kiln]

I keep getting a short where a dude put his hand under a waterjet

Like why

[cursive summit]

That was a joke

[crisp granite]

Aight

I still love you

[cursive summit]

I know that it's hard to read sarcasm, but I am very much just fucking about

[halcyon willow]

Vexxsie chill