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#🔌│tech
haughty vector
old marlin
Instructions per clock
a 7600X will do more intstructions than a 8700k when they clock to the same frequency
not to mention memory bandwidth etc
not to mention that a 7600x has like more than 2 times the cache of the 8700k
closer to 3 times
cursive summit
Gaming difference will be massive though
Tried to look up reviews, 8700K is not even in the charts anymore
old marlin
cursive summit
But yeah you can expect massive performance gains
old marlin
the 9700k is similar to the 8700k
has 2 more cores but no HT
so it will suck in MT, is faster in games though
and consistently looses against a 7600X in that test
vagrant pagoda
the longer explination is, the og 32bit cpu 386 only did one instruction per clock, so perforance scaled only with clock, with small gains for cache. When the pentium came out it was superscaler, so it could do 2 or more instructions per clock.
cursive summit
Do you even need the 2 extra cores?
haughty vector
nah idek i just saw it
cursive summit
7700X in gaming won't be any faster than a 7600X
You just get 2 extra cores for productivity
raw zephyr
what mobo manuf. are worth getting these days? i'm out of the loop on this
cursive summit
what mobo manuf. are worth getting these days? i'm out of the loop on this
Idk I always stan Gigabyte, they always work
haughty vector
You just get 2 extra cores for productivity
i see. would a 13700k outperform a 7600x in games?
cursive summit
i see. would a 13700k outperform a 7600x in games?
Last I remember they were somewhat comparable
vagrant pagoda
7700X in gaming won't be any faster than a 7600X
depends on the games
raw zephyr
i always got asus boards but not sure if i want to get one due to some am5 controversy
cursive summit
13700K is a lot more expensive
vagrant pagoda
BG3 was running 100% on my x3d for long sections
old marlin
what mobo manuf. are worth getting these days? i'm out of the loop on this
for am5 asrock seems to be especially solid
also asus software 💀 💀 💀
old marlin
can be handy
raw zephyr
ok what about ASROCK X670E Pro RS?
old marlin
dunno why you would go x670e
b650e is usually already pretty overkill vrm wise
but idk much about boards atm
I just bought riptide cause it is good and did everything I wanted it to
otherwise would have prob gone with the livemixer
raw zephyr
dude i'm so lost in the amd side of things
raw zephyr
last time i had amd was like fx6100
old marlin
I hate all of them
raw zephyr
that's what? 10 years ago?
cursive summit
Intel, why even bother
Starfield won't run on Arc GPUs at all
Eh, I guess they have to, game might be playable eventually
mild dome
Although I appreciate M.2 being a cosy standard, I am a bit annoyed at how hard it is to access m.2 slots. I suppose we rarley need to touch them, but I really couldn't help but think "Damn I this could have been a cable to a ssd cage and we'd be done"
cursive summit
Ok what kind of fuckery is Arc, peeps are playing at 4K High graphics at better framerates than I get at FHD medium
I bet my r5 3600 is just really bad at Starfield
halcyon moss
Intel, why even bother
Vex being Vex with the ultra quick judgements
cursive summit
Alright Arc should in no world be able to run Starfield at higher resolution than FHD
The game really loves CPUs, so Arc can do 4K30+ realistically it seems
cursive summit
I literally just posted the drivers, thought they were cute, read the comments and got pissed
Man I hope they fix this weird CPU bottleneck thing, cause I want good FPS too 
mild dome
Dunno how they are going to fix it, the Creation Engine is doing a lot to hold them back.
faint agate
Noob here 👋 : I'm tempted to get the 60h but because of my reliance of arrow keys in excel, I'm unsure its going to be good for me.
- I dont want to get the 100% because I like the smaller sizing profile
- Wooting does currently offer a small "arrow key extension" with their switches right?
rough osprey
arrow key extension?
knotty summit
Or FN key?
faint agate
arrow key extension?
as in like a separate "keyboard" thingy that just arrow keys
rough osprey
use the uwu haha
knotty summit
Uwu has only 3 keys tho
faint agate
use the uwu haha
I was having a look haha, just the profile of it doesnt really work lmao
wouldve been perfect though
Its so annoying I wanna get a wooting so bad
all my friends rave about it
raw zephyr
you can use mod-tap with wootility
rough osprey
Uwu has only 3 keys tho
the small ones
raw zephyr
tap for arrow keys, hold for modifiers
knotty summit
Yeah
raw zephyr
faint agate
Yeah its just not conveniant enough given how much I use arrow keys and normal keys simultaneously
i.e. excel
No worries, was just brainstorming seeing it anyone had done anything similar!
Thanks guys
knotty summit
I've used modtap and Fn layer and Fn layer just takes a bit of getting used to
raw zephyr
No worries, was just brainstorming seeing it anyone had done anything similar!
probably a better video, my bad
faint agate
is it just pure cope if I say "alright ill just hold out until 75% comes out 
"
rough osprey
no
knotty summit
oof
rough osprey
soooon
rough osprey
nah
faint agate
raw zephyr
@faint agate check your DM
lament zenith
hmmmmmmmm
raw zephyr
quasi wharf
e
cursive summit
There can be only one technoblade
vapid perch
There can be only one technoblade
teknoblad
reef patrol
There can be only one technoblade
Good news - The position opened up a while ago.
cursive summit
rough osprey
private public profile
knotty summit
Yes
fair gull
Good news - The position opened up a while ago.
bad news anyone trying to be the new technoblade will prob be murdered for a while still
old marlin
wtf is an "AI" powered headphone
like the only thing I could think of is it splitting the audio into STEM real time and then doing hrtf bs for a "stage like" sound or something
cursive summit
sounds sketchy
It's Sony, they don't do sketchy
old marlin
cursive summit
Has Sony audio released anything that genuinely can be considered sketchy?
old marlin
when has AI marketing not been sketchy
cursive summit
AI sound is usually pretty good
cursive summit
Like, LG has been doing AI sound enhancement for a long time now
vapid perch
fr
cursive summit
Adaptive EQ
rough osprey
on their tvs?
cursive summit
Adaptive cause you can throw it a wall of sound, it will know what's important, what should stay in the background or be louder
Dialogues, etc
vapid perch
uh
i rather just have neutral sound at all times for music
and for movies etc have a preset for that
cursive summit
For movies, etc not always just a single preset is best
old marlin
stem splitters are not ai
cursive summit
Anyways LG has been doing AI on their TVs for a good while now https://www.lg.com/ca_en/lgoled/picture_sound.jsp
old marlin
for someone that doubts everything
you don't give them any shit
everything is AI now
bimetal strip = ai
cursive summit
I think if Sony does something like that, where an instrumental is perhaps a bit lower volume than the vocals, but then vocals stop and the instrumental slowly ramps up in volume it could be pretty good
rough osprey
my phone has ai keyboard 😎
old marlin
splitting into stems is not ai
of course can be done with ai
but you can also make a calculator with ai
very ai
rough osprey
where can i invest
old marlin
Anyways LG has been doing AI on their TVs for a good while now https://www.lg.co...
brightness adjustment is a very ai feature btw
totally not just a stupid simple feedback loop
hard wadi
Anyways LG has been doing AI on their TVs for a good while now https://www.lg.co...
Sooo upscaling but tv
cursive summit
Heh?
wheat plume
I often miss notifications because I miss them since I cant see them as clearly (on Android)
she misses the numbered badge that iOS puts on the app icons
wait wait, if you unlock your iPhone while your Airpods are linked to your macbook, they switch to the iPhone even though you dont have audio playing on it??
thorny mirage
old marlin
she misses the numbered badge that iOS puts on the app icons
yea not a thing with android, nova launcher just reads out the amount of push notifications that you have and sets that as a badge number
but that is not really the same thing
wheat plume
nova Launcher also lets you display the profile photos for any priority people you have set instead of a number badge if they sent a message you havent opened yet :D
mild dome
AI is an investable buzzword.
Just add "AI" to your product to get instant investment
Similar to the dotcom bubble, and the cryptochain bubble, and so on
cursive summit
@ashen spindle https://twitter.com/Olrak29_/status/1698437156229005615
Twitter
By I/O, does it mean USB, Ethernet, etc?
lament zenith
nova Launcher also lets you display the profile photos for any priority people y...
My issue with nova is that it doesn't work with gestures
Much like every other third party launcher
If third party launchers did work with gestures, I'd use Microsoft launcher. Fight me it looks good
wheat plume
Nova 8 Beta does work with gestures
its a little janky in terms of animation..but it does work
lament zenith
Yeah they all work
The animations are jank asf
old marlin
My issue with nova is that it doesn't work with gestures
Much like every other t...
it does work with gestures
that is just miui being shit
💀
wheat plume
memeUI
old marlin
my new phone still isn't in shipping 💀
lament zenith
that is just miui being shit
My brother in Christ I am on a pixel
old marlin
A54
old marlin
My brother in Christ I am on a pixel
rip
well animations being jank is one thing
with miui you need their first party launcher for gestures
otherwise you just don't get them
old marlin
I'd rather have a smooth experience
old marlin
How is it a rip?
not an ideal experience is a rip?
lament zenith
My phone is an ideal experience
old marlin
well you can't use whatever launcher
lament zenith
The first part launcher is great I just wanna use Microsoft launcher
raw zephyr
from what i'm hearing in this channel, it seems no android phone is good
wheat plume
too much
halcyon moss
Weeeeb
wheat plume
wheat plume
My issue with nova is that it doesn't work with gestures
Much like every other t...
here video proof
I wish the stock Pixel launcher was able to lock the phone when you double tap the wallpaper ;-;
thats the only reason im using Nova
If I was rooted, I could use Pixel Tweaks to enable that and icon pack support on stock launcher
ashen spindle
<@150712028217081866> https://twitter.com/Olrak29_/status/1698437156229005615
Basically zen6 will be different in how the chiplet structures work, which has been same from z2-z5
cursive summit
I hope that means even more infinity fabric speed
ashen spindle
Idk if it still has IF it whatever
But yes that point is apparently the big improvement for that
pale sigil
Gestures work for me too
lament zenith
I dare you to go to the recents menu
Plus that still looks jank anyway
lament zenith
Why is it in like 30fps
shadow minnow
wheat plume
Why is it in like 30fps
ask the person who ported this ROM, or maybe Google, cause this is a direct port without edits
apparently its 55.58FPS
fair gull
like lana?
wheat plume
Pixel 6A ported ROM running on Mi Note 10 Lite :P
The ROM maintainer is really fast too, just a few days delay from the time an official 6A update gets pushed out
this video gave me anxiety https://youtu.be/lkm5yZ-BU-U
id say this is stupid shit
especially when its sputtering out liquid
reef patrol
dog collar with a battery on a sawdust platter
I mean... I don't kinkshame, but damn.
ashen spindle
mhmm battery acid, yummy
cursive summit
"powered by a new Kirin 9000s chip that was fabricated in China by Semiconductor Manufacturing International Corp"
ashen spindle
it's 7nm we have at home
cursive summit
I guess the Intel fabs that U.S are building will be eclipsing anything China has rn
Considering Intel's doing the whole angstrom thing
ashen spindle
china doesnt really have EUV is the thing
mild dome
China be like
source: trust me bro!
ashen spindle
I have to give them credit on ont thing though
the image is not some 1985 intel pentium
ian must be happy
old marlin
I mean it would be easy to find out what node it is
ashen spindle
and then?
old marlin
measure it out?
ashen spindle
ok but that tells you nothing since we dont have the official specs for their processes
old marlin
ig?
we would at least be able to set it in relation to more known nodes though
wouldn't we?
ashen spindle
sure and that is what is happening here sorta
well apart from bloomberg not having technical knowledge and writing that headline
analog sinew
the return of the c64
vagrant pagoda
They can drink transistors but not other features
They using quad exposure at different angles to make transistor smaller
So power use goes down, density doesn't meaningfully go down.
Which is why it's generally a nand tech
Not cpu
Pretty sure TSMC/Intel/Samsung are only using double and triple exposure for cpu
ashen spindle
no clue on top of my head but likely
since euv is to reduce double patterning as much as possible
vagrant pagoda
vagrant pagoda
no clue on top of my head but likely
Euv is mostly double
Due to how limiting it is
ashen spindle
ah right that's why high NA is the next step
wheat plume
why are Opera GX on a sponsorship spree on YT????
like 60% of the tech YTers I watch now have a sponsor from them...
vagrant pagoda
like 60% of the tech YTers I watch now have a sponsor from them...
Market share and exposure?
vagrant pagoda
ah right that's why high NA is the next step
TSMC is mask+cut for euv
cursive summit
Opera always did marketing campaigns
vagrant pagoda
Idk about the others
ashen spindle
yeah I know, high NA is to not do tripple pattern EUV for 3nm or lower
vagrant pagoda
I heard there's some shady ownership behind them
Opera
ashen spindle
and then we just pray something works out after that step lmao
vagrant pagoda
High na is just speed though
ashen spindle
it has faster stages but its not just more speed
ashen spindle
also I think high NA was the reason the reticle limit is shrinking on future nodes
reef patrol
why are Opera GX on a sponsorship spree on YT????
That's usually how campaigns work.
vagrant pagoda
Intel's 10nm highperformance logic technology interconnect stack featuring 13 metal layers comprising two self-aligned quad patterned and four self-aligned double patterned layers.
ashen spindle
ironically future nodes might make amd the better gpus if nvidia will run into issues transitioning into chiplets xD
ashen spindle
Intel's 10nm highperformance logic technology interconnect stack featuring 13 me...
the failed 10nm in CNL or one of the working ones
ashen spindle
yeah they just got no chance to catch up in any time
unless they have some actually insane magic breakthrough somehow and get 3d sheets first or something
vagrant pagoda
I mean possibly
Intel 7 is no euv
And is competitive with Samsung and tsmc for density, just not power efficiently
ashen spindle
super fin is still just finfet
vagrant pagoda
GAAFET is next for all 3 foundries
IBM and Samsung produce 5nm ribbon
And Samsung also do 3nm ribbion
ashen spindle
SS only has 3nm and lower not 5 and it's been a pain to get that going for them
ibms gaafet is like tsmc3 roughly but ibm isnt going to fab your gpus and cpus anytime soon
ashen spindle
yeah so we have SS with questinable yields/performance on it, tsmc and intel holding out still for another node and that seemed to be smart
so it will either be intel on a future node or amd on N2 that have the first GAAFET product that consumers would actually use
vagrant pagoda
Arent all the new Samsung flagships this year on Samsung 3nm
ashen spindle
idk, so far only one crypto asic has been made on it
but true I guess SS phones might get the tech first
but if it does them any good we will see
vagrant pagoda
I saw people were pissy Samsung is going back to using Exynos overseas
ashen spindle
I mean its similar to gpus, people want amd (exynos) to make the other chisp cheaper but not actaully use it
vagrant pagoda
Nah exynos has way worse radios
ashen spindle
yeah but people dont want exynos to be better they just never want it
in theory they could be the better option and cheaper to make for samsung too
young pecan
What’s actually happening with the quantum tunnelling problem?
Iirc that was a problem by 3nm process, no?
vagrant pagoda
Iirc that was a problem by 3nm process, no?
3nm isn't 3nm transistors
Look at feature pitch
3nm is still like 40+nm transistor pitch
That's the minimum distance between transistors
young pecan
Right ok so we're yet to see fuckery.
Honestly I really wanna see a CPU die from quantum shenanigans. No idea which way the designers will go. Multiple CPUs? Bigger die? Weird stacked chips?
Ngl I'd love to see a new consumer platform with dual sockets. That's always the most weird cracked out solution.
young pecan
Not a fan of E cores?
fickle ore
I guess they are good for something but imagine Q-cores 
young pecan
I mean...
Could be really odd.
What would you even use them for? Like I'm sure there's... some use, but fuck knows what it'd be.
vagrant pagoda
Right now?
fickle ore
just jiggle calculations that benefit from quantum computing
vagrant pagoda
Stock market manipulation and breaking encryption
fickle ore
quantum physics in star citizen mark my words
ashen spindle
Honestly I really wanna see a CPU die from quantum shenanigans. No idea which wa...
Stuff like sram doesn’t scale so expect more like vcache things, look at mi300 and stuff
More die stacking, take what doesn’t shrink and put it on top, also look at the cancelled rdna4 images
fickle ore
better cooling higher factory oc
hardy idol
Stuff like sram doesn’t scale so expect more like vcache things, look at mi300 a...
Sram?
Shimano >>
ashen spindle
smh always the dutch thinking about biking
crisp granite
That or cannabis
frozen ingot
understandable
woven laurel
I have used both and for me theres not difference
were talking about bike gears right?
I can only speak for mountainbikes
GX and slx are no difference imo
and I have also used sram nx which is cheaper but really solid imo
weird all my friends are also happy with shimano
compact scaffold
Ok
Need some help
I got my computer working somehow but now the monitor won’t turn on
The light for it is on but nothing is projecting on the screen
halcyon willow
I got my computer working somehow but now the monitor won’t turn on
what's your hdmi plugged into
GPU or CPU
make sure your monitor gets power
try a different cable
compact scaffold
what's your hdmi plugged into
aight I tried a dif monitor and no change
So it’s probably the computer or cable
compact scaffold
GPU or CPU
I’ll check
I have no idea
the monitor says dvi not connected before turning off*
Not dvi not connected it’s dvi no signal
compact scaffold
Bet
halcyon willow
do you have integrated graphics? also, try another port on the GPU
compact scaffold
do you have integrated graphics? also, try another port on the GPU
No idea, tried both ports
compact scaffold
where is your HDMI cable here
It’s at the top
halcyon willow
motherboard abbreviation
compact scaffold
No change
halcyon willow
you sure?
thick elk
Lower end mobo's with dvi were sold up until quite recently if not right now
compact scaffold
Yup
compact scaffold
Lower end mobo's with dvi were sold up until quite recently if not right now
Yeah it’s pretty low quality 😭
thick elk
yes
vagrant pagoda
tons and tons of corprate/schools never change screens for lcd
compact scaffold
still dvi no signal
vagrant pagoda
so dvi is common
halcyon willow
bro has the same amount of ports as me and im on ITX
compact scaffold
for me it’s fine because I don’t have a lot to plug in
thick elk
It's just that the io on those budget boards get recycled for a long time. Also hdmi + vga + dvi was a great way to get tripple monitor out of your igp for office machines
thick elk
I would start at looking at the motherboard, any status led's telling you where you get stuck in the boot process
compact scaffold
I would start at looking at the motherboard, any status led's telling you where ...
So I look for leds?
crimson wigeon
Switch monitor to HDMI?
compact scaffold
Switch monitor to HDMI?
Still dvi no signal
crimson wigeon
Press buttons until it says HDMI no signal
compact scaffold
I don’t think I’m using the cable but I have a little adaptor thing
I’m pretty sure it’s an adaptor
crimson wigeon
Wait you're aadapting HDMI to DVI?
halcyon willow
that's why I blocked her
compact scaffold
thick elk
Not all monitors play nice with an hdmi to dvi adapter if you are using those.
It could also be that you need to press it in more
Ah yes adapter cables, those can be kind of bad
crimson wigeon
That seems blursed
halcyon willow
what type of shit is this
compact scaffold
Do I take it out?
compact scaffold
what type of shit is this
Bro it came like this 😭
thick elk
always a good thing to test
halcyon willow
why would you do this on purpose
thick elk
I have quite a few of those at work, in fact I am using one right now.
compact scaffold
why would you do this on purpose
I didn’t do it I got it as a gift
coarse cloak
LMFAO
halcyon willow
you're fucking with us, right? Right???
compact scaffold
No
halcyon willow
end the suffering
thick elk
The monitor I am using only has dvi vga and dp and my laptop here only has hdmi and vga so there is that
coarse cloak
I had to use adapters for my display twice, never had problems w no signal tho
thick elk
dvi and hdmi can carry the same video signal
compact scaffold
I’m like computer tech illiterate
compact scaffold
just audio generally doesn't work
Oh yeah when I got the pc I had to like reinstall audio file drivers or something like that
Idk if thats related to it but 🤷♂️
thick elk
No I just mean the cable doesn't cary audio
not related
Another thing you could try is make sure to tighten the dvi connector well, as it kind of requires it.
BTW I know you tried both but please use the connector on your video card instead of the motherboard, as long as it's connected it should generally be used.
otherwise you will probably not get display out either way
compact scaffold
Ok I tried a dif cable and no difference
Basically I replaced the monitor and cable w another so it has to be something w there pc
thick elk
Post a screenshot of what you just tried so we can check
compact scaffold
wait I’ll see
compact scaffold
Post a screenshot of what you just tried so we can check
I didn’t do anything dif just replaced everything
thick elk
Maybe we can spot some glaring mistakes
compact scaffold
Bet
Actually I’ll make a video of like what happens when I try to turn the monitor on
Phone died
shut up 😭
Ik that’s incredibly bright but it said dvi no signal or something
not connected?
thick elk
First of all connect it to your gpu the horizontal slots not the vertical ones
compact scaffold
First of all connect it to your gpu the horizontal slots not the vertical ones
That is a great idea
It has been completed
halcyon willow
clickbait thumbnail on youtube
compact scaffold
I know 😭 its kinda cute how you layed it out though
I did do that
Idk if theres anything else to be done
zenith silo
if plugging it into your gpu didnt work, have you tried another cable?
compact scaffold
if plugging it into your gpu didnt work, have you tried another cable?
I have
And I have tried another monitor
thick elk
There are plenty of things to be done, not all easy to explain to you over the internet.
Another thing you could try to do is isolate the problem between at least the pc and the monitor.
halcyon willow
you're fucked
zenith silo
have you tried plugging your monitor into anythig else
compact scaffold
have you tried plugging your monitor into anythig else
Wdym
thick elk
you could try to connect another device to the monitor to see if it gives a signal there
zenith silo
can you hook your monitor up to any other pc/laptop/console maybe
halcyon willow
can you hook your monitor up to any other pc/laptop/console maybe
birds sing McKnight
compact scaffold
can you hook your monitor up to any other pc/laptop/console maybe
Sure
zenith silo
birds sing McKnight
what
compact scaffold
But the other monitor I tried didn’t work on my pc and did work on another pc
halcyon willow
Birds in the Trap Sing McKnight
zenith silo
But the other monitor I tried didn’t work on my pc and did work on another pc
sounds like it might be an issue with your pc than
thick elk
While there are other possible problems, it's pretty much narrowed down to the pc.
compact scaffold
While there are other possible problems, it's pretty much narrowed down to the p...
Yeah
And I don’t know shit about fixing a pc so 🤷♂️
thick elk
You could try to open the case and resocket the gpu / memory / power but if you are not comfortable with that maybe you know someone local who can help.
otherwise there is always the computer shop.
Chances of a loose connector are pretty high.
compact scaffold
It worked before but now it’s not
compact scaffold
otherwise there is always the computer shop.
Yeah probably gonna go there tomorrow
compact scaffold
It worked before but now it’s not
I went on holiday for 3 weeks and when I came back the pc wouldn’t turn on, today it did but the monitor isn’t working
The monitor doesn’t have a hdmi cable thing
thick elk
Looking at the photo it does look like the gpu potentially got a bit unplugged
compact scaffold
Looking at the photo it does look like the gpu potentially got a bit unplugged
gpu?
thick elk
the thing you plugged in the monitor cable (horizontally)
halcyon willow
bro oversaw the release of the The Verge video
zenith silo
that video was satire right?
compact scaffold
the thing you plugged in the monitor cable (horizontally)
That’s crazy
thick elk
Cool nzxt phantom in that diagram, I still use that case on my server / htpc
zenith silo
That’s crazy
did it work?
compact scaffold
It’s plugged in now on the lower bit
halcyon willow
that video was satire right?
nope lol
thick elk
I suspect that during transport it may have shaken loose, nothing broken just disconnected.
So opening the side panel, laying the case on it's side and pressing things in could do the trick
compact scaffold
I suspect that during transport it may have shaken loose, nothing broken just di...
idk about that
The pc has been here stationary for the past like year
Js broke when I got back
One sec I’ll open the case
thick elk
If it solves it, better, if it doesn't nothing lost
compact scaffold
bet
Opened it
Only thing that seems lose is this thing at the bottom
Loose*
It’s behind like a little grated thing that I have no idea how to open
thick elk
That's probably unimportant.
halcyon willow
bro what the fuck
compact scaffold
That's probably unimportant.
Bet
thick elk
Just try to press the memory / ram and the gpu in a bit, see if it helps
thick elk
Ram or memory whatever you want to call it
compact scaffold
That’s crazy
Yeah idk it all seems good
I’m gonna attempt to unplug and re plug a cable I found
No change
I’ve like unplugged and re plugged a bunch of cables but nothings changing
thick elk
Not much we can do from here I guess
vagrant pagoda
Send a picture of the inside
halcyon willow
Send a picture of the inside
inside of who
vagrant pagoda
inside of who
Whom
rough osprey
uh
halcyon willow
799, cheapest LG OLED so far
nope
rough osprey
need some reviews for that
gusty kiln
only on sale
gusty kiln
where is "here"
rough osprey
germany
gusty kiln
kek, well it's a US site that I posted
wonder why the AOC is more expensive in germany
usually it should be cheaper since you can get Chinese stuff easier
rough osprey
who knows
compact scaffold
Send a picture of the inside
rough osprey
surely
gusty kiln
wtf, you don't have any RAM?
rough osprey
bro blind
gusty kiln
hard to tell with all those jpeg
rough osprey
just zoom
latent mural
Why are theRAM DIMMS yellow lol
gusty kiln
those are empty slots
latent mural
Why are they yellow
latent mural
Just throw it in the garbage
gusty kiln
would be a waste, but troubleshooting is a pain without someone there
gusty kiln
best just to reseat the GPU, CPU, and RAM and try booting again
compact scaffold
best just to reseat the GPU, CPU, and RAM and try booting again
How would I go about doing that
gusty kiln
a friend gave you this right?
just ask next time you see em if you're uncomfotanle doing this
latent mural
Lmfao
compact scaffold
just ask next time you see em if you're uncomfotanle doing this
Nah they live in another country
Js gonna take it to a shop tomorrow
That’s easier
gusty kiln
rip my local best buy is closing down
damn seems like they closing a lot of stores across the US
gusty kiln
@vagrant pagoda btw what is your ram speed and timing? forgot
compact scaffold
any leds/lights on here
I see zero leds inside the computer
The pc
Idk what to call it
sharp patio
Anyone heard about the new gateron magnetic orange ?
latent mural
Like 3 weeks ago
sharp patio
You have any video they review it?
gusty kiln
oh shit, no wonder you're having a better time in Starfield
vagrant pagoda
took 4 cpus XD
sharp patio
Ty toasty
gusty kiln
I just have pleb 3200CL14
vagrant pagoda
I see zero leds inside the computer
fan on gpu spin?
vagrant pagoda
I just have pleb 3200CL14
oof
gusty kiln
well it's b-die, just not the highest spec ones
vagrant pagoda
try for 3800
gusty kiln
like at 1.45?
vagrant pagoda
then you can do atleast 1900 1:1
vagrant pagoda
like at 1.45?
keep it under 1.5
or add fan and you can do 1.6
i have old school artic ram cooler
gusty kiln
prob try next weekend
vagrant pagoda
not using the fan though
gusty kiln
lol nice
vagrant pagoda
they are a little over 3 inchs tall
gusty kiln
your noctua clears it?
gusty kiln
oh
gusty kiln
thought you would have had a passive psu
vagrant pagoda
so might as well use that fan
vagrant pagoda
torrent mounts fan down
and i have fans
4 180s
i need to make 3d modles of my "CAD" shrouds and then i can show off pics
i dont want to show off amazonboxes and packing tape stuffed into a case
vagrant pagoda
but i need to make the cpu shourd right first
compact scaffold
Yeah all fan spin
gusty kiln
vagrant pagoda
oh
p1 cant rotate with stock am4/5 mount
intel is square so you can rotate
i want to make a custom mount to turn it
then i can move the gpu back down bottom
gusty kiln
fabing it yourself?
vagrant pagoda
but with am4/5 this is what p1 is like
vagrant pagoda
fabing it yourself?
noctuas mounts are super simple
no issues with ram
i have my gpu up front with a o11d mount
gusty kiln
gusty kiln
yeah
vagrant pagoda
but yeah
all notcua towers use the 2 screws
with amd mount isnt square
so i just have to get 2 bars and drill 3 holes
no need for the curve mechanically
i plan on making a all the way around bracket
as i think it will have clearance issues
gusty kiln
just need a nice centerpunch
vagrant pagoda
so i might have to offset
gusty kiln
when you upgrading the gpu
gusty kiln
4080?
vagrant pagoda
i want to get current gpu cooling right first
gusty kiln
ate me gpu money XD
oof
vagrant pagoda
prob 6900xtx
gusty kiln
interesting
vagrant pagoda
because cooler
gusty kiln
wait 7900xtx?
vagrant pagoda
my bad
amds naming sucks
6950
lol
i have a morpheus on the ti
and they dont have a 7900/4080/90 cooler
vagrant pagoda
maybe if someone had a big ass cooler i could strip
all the 7900 coolers suck for my setup
woven laurel
phanteks case?
gusty kiln
fractal torrent
vagrant pagoda
phanteks case?
torrent
the nitro was the only one that i thought might work
i think my best other than aftermarket cooler on a 6900/6950 is under volt/clock a 4 slot 4090
pny zotac and i think msi make non crazy high end 4 slots
same cooler as the nitro right?
the big sad is the hellhound got a smaller cooler than the RD
a RD would work
just hate buying the oc card and not using the oc lol
like i think the largest air cooler you can get on a gpu is the gig 4090
thing is chonkers
laughs in 2 slot bracket
unit
but back on topic
the p1 is double offset
dont need the VC
i need fin area
thats why p1 clears most ram
well all ram on most boards
i while ago
but yeah
if you were standing on a pcie slot looking up
this is what i want
should clear ram
the 4080 are crazy money
Raijintek makes them
and only for 3090/6900
i ahve the older on my ti
soc on back?
mild dome
I do wonder if we'll reach a stage where companies put out an official statement explaining that you need to remove the IHS to get the advertised performance
vagrant pagoda
I do wonder if we'll reach a stage where companies put out an official statement...
just go back to bare die
mild dome
It seems to me that with GPU companies waiting until the last possible second to release ANY details about their GPUs a lot of board partners legitimately cannot get anything ready for release. Thus reference cards are needed to have something on "release"
ashen spindle
no they let people have the cards they just get gimped drivers or vbios so they cant run the cards at full speeds
but they know the hardware specs to make AiB models
young pecan
no they let people have the cards they just get gimped drivers or vbios so they ...
Ngl I have no idea how this is even legal.
ashen spindle
????
young pecan
Literally just sell a reference card to someone and give them a fucked VBIOS so the card can’t perform, you said?
ashen spindle
bruh what
I'm talking about the chips AiBs get so they can make their own cards
not consumers
young pecan
Like AMD to Sapphire, I mean.
ashen spindle
yeah so sapphire can make a cooler without amd risking that actual cards leak out, sell early etc.
it's like a devkit
young pecan
Ah wait so they get a fixed VBIOS on release.
ashen spindle
well yeah they dont sell literally broken cards...
young pecan
Bro I would not be surprised if they were getting shipped an inferior VBIOS.
As much as we like AMD atm they have been evil twats many, many times before for the sake of short profit.
That absolutely sounds in character for them if we look back 15 years or so.
ashen spindle
and what would they gain from locking cards down so they lose in comparison to nvidia lol
young pecan
Idk dude. Something idiotic like assuming they’ll sell more reference cards directly therefore profit, some dumbass logic like that.
Equally foolish things have been done before. FX 8000 series for example.
young pecan
Or nvidia with that super stupid 700/900 naming convention.
ashen spindle
bulldozer also wasnt them holding something back
young pecan
No it was just really stupidly designed architecture.
ashen spindle
I mean, it didnt work out for the time and what they could do
things that bulldozer did like wide decode or what it was is in zen but better and all
its not like they set out to make something worse to ruin the company
young pecan
Oh nobody ever does. It’s just when you’re trying to play 4D chess against the enemy company, Intel in this case, you sometimes make a really bad move.
ashen spindle
thats not what any company really does though, at least not the big ones
haughty vector
@cursive summit what do u think about this deal https://www.microcenter.com/product/5006269/amd-ryzen-7-7700x,-msi-b650-p-pro-wifi,-gskill-flare-x5-series-32gb-ddr5-6000-kit,-computer-build-combo
young pecan
I mean Intel was stuck on 4 cores for literally a decade and when AMD took them pants down they floundered for ages since they really didn’t attempt to improve. That’s not at all a smart idea even at the time.
ashen spindle
well they made core counts more avaialble and all, the real issue was 10nm being a shitshow and that was without amd
young pecan
Up to about 4, yeah. Sure you had bigger core counts but the pricing was awful.
Never forgetti Skylake extreme, the shitshow that thing was.
ashen spindle
yeah but pricing and all is just how you put the existing tech, it doesnt change the tech
young pecan
I mean… they could very easily have changed to a hex core like years before AMD did the Ryzen thing. Or that weird stint where they were stuck on iirc 28 cores for Xeon for ages.
mild dome
What gave Bulldozer a bad name IRC was the fact they mismarketed as having double the cores it truly had. Like each core had an extra integer calculator IRC, but most performance applications didn't do enough integers to make it really work
ashen spindle
that all is still a case of not putting more R&D out or so, not crippling of existing products
if you have something you want max value from it not less
young pecan
that all is still a case of not putting more R&D out or so, not crippling of exi...
Well yes. I wasn’t saying Bulldozer was an example of deliberately crippling stuff. I was saying it was a series of really poor design decisions and bad decision making, with that said I can’t say I’d be that surprised if AMD pulled a weird move like that.
They’re in the limelight now but truly they are not a nice gigacorporation.
ashen spindle
amd would be insane if they risk the smallest arm that they have dGPU to screw up the image/results/legal of the rest of the company
young pecan
shrugs Yep, they really would. The scary bit is it doesn’t even feel that far out of character.
ashen spindle
it would be very out of character
young pecan
Feels like something AMD does exactly one alternate universe over.
ashen spindle
there is a differnece between cringe marketing like poor volta and risking the company over a few moneys
ashen spindle
amds chain of importance is
Datacenter
iGPUs
Consoles
nothing
...
dGPUs
young pecan
Do we consider workstation/enterprise GPUs as dGPUs or datacenter?
young pecan
Ngl I don’t think I’ve ever even seen a firepro GPU used.
Who even buys them actually? 
ashen spindle
no clue
maybe some VFX studios or so that need something specific
or that used apple before
or need Threadripper but something extra
nothing large order anyway
young pecan
Huh… I’d think VFX would massively favour nvidia.
ashen spindle
TCO or if its something specific that just really hammers some things
or people that can see the future and want to get in early to get MI300 cheap lmfao
cant wait for more info on that in a short while
final flame
vagrant pagoda
<@265691493006573568> btw what is your ram speed and timing? forgot
5800x3d dose worse than a 7600
with 3200 cl 14 vs 6000 cl30
its only good for 90fps
id love to see with atleast 3800
gusty kiln
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=raf_Qo60Gi4
Damn
vagrant pagoda
def made for xbox
gusty kiln
with 3200 cl 14 vs 6000 cl30
losing by 1 fps is not bad with the memory difference
gusty kiln
yeah
vagrant pagoda
to a non x3d
vagrant pagoda
i think its more boost
i think even the non x 7000 boosts to 5ghz
odd that they used overclocked ram for am5/intel
but not for ddr4
gusty kiln
Ryan SHrout reminds me of Zuckerbeg
idk why
and similar shaped head
my 2080 is pegged at 99% during starfield though, but I haven't checked power usage
GPU upgrade still ideal
gusty kiln
but power usage is low I thought?
haughty vector
anyone know good cpu coolers for the 7700x or 7900x?
mild dome
Well the hotter they get the bigger the cooler you want if you desire low noise
GN's charts
halcyon moss
Hm time to upgrade my 3700x 😦
vagrant pagoda
anyone know good cpu coolers for the 7700x or 7900x?
Thermalright is back on top, they are the king of price to performance right now
gusty kiln
Scythe fuma is nice if you prioritize noise
mild dome
Yeah looking at those numbers, how did Thermalright achieve that?
halcyon willow
garbage release
analog sinew
it reads like units per pallet
cursive summit
<@290176243544883200> what do u think about this deal https://www.microcenter.co...
That is a typical microcenter insane bundle
It's really really good
Incredible value
reef patrol
Why would I need a FOURTH superlight?
I don't need it THAT much. I Cut the end pieces off, so the micro b cable doubles as recharging for my headphones.
halcyon moss
200 usd for a mouse
haughty vector
is there even a big difference between the super light 1 and 2?
old marlin
Yea changes so far seem to be
Omron optical switches
"New" sensor
2khz polling rate
Usb-c
New bottom skate design
crimson wigeon
Who moved this channel down again
lament zenith
I'm waiting for someone to figure out they can put hall effect switches in a laptop
raw zephyr
this channel was always here
crimson wigeon
Oh someone moved it back just now
halcyon willow
Oh someone moved it back just now
nope
crimson wigeon
Yep
halcyon willow
nope
crimson wigeon
Yep
raw zephyr
nope
crimson wigeon
Yep
halcyon willow
nope
crimson wigeon
crimson wigeon
Yep, but okay this stopped being funny after the first message
raw zephyr
nope
wheat plume
Nope
raw zephyr
i had to clear cache and now it shows
halcyon willow
Yep, but okay this stopped being funny after the first message
nope.
severe phoenix
People complainin about Logi on this server, typing with their Wooting. 
severe phoenix
raw zephyr
No. I moved them back.
bad duck
reef patrol
rough osprey
he didn't get a review unit
rough osprey
kinda hard to be positive on it
grim pasture
Feels more like an refresh than an nextgen and its expensive
If I had the first one, I probably wouldn't upgrade it for that price xD
severe phoenix
And yet people will
compact scaffold
Idk if anyone cares but I figured it out from yesterday
It was the cable that prevented my monitor from working
reef patrol
If people could stop posting the same* Optimum Tech video again and again, that'd be great. We already have a discussion.
Yes yes, Wooting W. Feel free to join the discussion elsewhere 😄
#💬│general message
gusty kiln
Optimum hasn't posted any sff builds in a while
All the other topics he posted, I rather watch someone else
Sadge
rough osprey
If people could stop posting the same* Optimum Tech video again and again, that'...
what a cool post
rough osprey
All the other topics he posted, I rather watch someone else
oh why is that
gusty kiln
Components reviews I rather watch GN and HWU
Mouse and keyboards, there are other YouTubers who dedicate their channels to those specific devices
rough osprey
hm i prefer the ot quality and style
gusty kiln
He was generally the SFF guy to me
rough osprey
just building the same stuff with the same components would be boring probably
and doesn't really let someone grow their channel
gusty kiln
That's fine, I personally just go for more indepth information elsewhere
I do like his monitor reviews though
rough osprey
go do that haha
for me personally he's kinda like the competive gaming tech Youtuber rn
so fps stuff
reef patrol
wispy turtle
ah, didnt see
i pasted the link to his vid and didnt see anyone post it
so i thought nobody had posted it x)
wispy turtle
Optimum hasn't posted any sff builds in a while
p sure he posted
a month ago no?
yeah
i mean tbh regardless of how the other companies implementations are, i feel like wooting dwarfs them so hard in EVERYYY other feature set
want to swap case for steelseries or huntsman? gl
switch dies on huntsman/steelseries? gl
want to swap the switches for smth lighter? gl
software both of them offer is like mediocre/cluttered as well
and resource hogs compared to desktop browser x)
sharp badger
Oh nice, Carbon Fiber 🤓
fickle ore
ashen spindle
problem is they test at 720p
so this doesnt show if it actually scales with ram
and in GNs cpu bench ram above a certain average xmp point didnt scale either
ashen spindle
hub test was weird yeah
astral haven
thats very not true, statistically speaking most ddr5 users are probably using 4800 because thats the default
astral haven
🤷 some people dont want to risk their warranty
gusty kiln
But yeah, intel cpu+amd gpu if you are all in on starfield, unless 4k where the 4090 is still king
gusty kiln
Are mods available for the PC game pass version?
astral haven
doubt it
gusty kiln
Rip, I know a couple people who are only playing starfield because it's "free" on game pass
vagrant pagoda
thats gpu limited no?
astral haven
and cpu limited
vagrant pagoda
wait
gn got 101 fps for tyhe 4090 in the gpu bench video
and so did the 4080
soo yeah cpu
astral haven
and gpu
gusty kiln
Someone mentioned nvidia is front end limited
astral haven
i mean if the 4080, 4090 and 7900xtx get the same fps
they dont
sharp badger
Using my DDR5 at 6000MHz
vagrant pagoda
they dont
that memory test is 1080/high/noscale
that gpu test is 1080/high/noscale
gusty kiln
Wonder if 7200 ram will show more difference
astral haven
it just isnt
