🔌│tech

[steep creek]

ah i was reffering to the bmw. pretty sure it also only comes with heated seats

[hasty thunder]

lol

[steep creek]

hah

[hasty thunder]

good thing i have an OBD II connector with wifi, BT and USB

i can hack my way through their shit

[steep creek]

cant imagine having the heater subscription running out, then having to rush to resubscribe because its -30 celsius outside lol

[hasty thunder]

https://tenor.com/view/anime-computer-girl-typing-gif-7944313

[steep creek]

it reminds me of the tesla jailbreak that cannot be patched lol

https://www.motortrend.com/news/tesla-unpatchable-jailbreak-hack/

[hasty thunder]

imagine having a GPU where you have to pay like 100 bucks every month for 4090 Performance

and i swear to god, if that trash ever happens i'll find Leather Jacket Jensen, force him on stage and rip his balls off with my bare hands, right in front of everyone

anyways, yeah, if car subscriptions become mainstream i'm going on a killing spree

[steep creek]

Sorry unrelated to the conversation, but would anyone know if the pihole is able to block youtube ads?

[hasty thunder]

kinda and not at all

[steep creek]

Aha I see

[hasty thunder]

you'd have to add the IPs the ads come from to the list, but YT afaik recognizes it nowadays and cock blocks you after 3 videos

in some extreme cases they even outright ban your IP, so you can't watch any video

[steep creek]

Hm yea I forgot about that change, I just don’t feel like paying for YouTube premium anymore as I barely use any of its features

[hasty thunder]

YT ReVanced

[steep creek]

I’m on iOS unfortunately lol

Would though if it wasn’t such a hassle sideloading

[astral haven]

https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/geforce-now/memberships/
$10 per month for a 3080, $20 per month for a 4080

[hasty thunder]

oh right... I forgot that shit exists

[astral haven]

to be fair its 1 cheaper than buying a gpu per cycle, and 2 its not hardware

[fickle ore]

this stuff prob works well for compute

[astral haven]

nope

they have a whitelist of things you can run

[fickle ore]

anything latency critical is just off

[astral haven]

disagree

if you are on a bad network it can actually improve your input latency in game

[fickle ore]

:F

[astral haven]

now sure your visual latency gets rekt

but the connection from the game to the game server is rock solid

[fickle ore]

that doesnt make sense, input latency is client side just server confirmed

[astral haven]

it worked incredibly well for csgo

[astral haven]

yea i mean for hitreg in stuff like csgo

[fickle ore]

Now tribes:ascend was basically server side without lag correction. That was horrible exprience. Really good game otherwise

Actually weapon switch e.g stuff like that was too but not the wasd movement

[fickle ore]

Cant wrap my head around that stuff rn. I'm sure lag correction will handle some of that but interpolation/extrapolation is not without faults

[astral haven]

yea it was definetly worse than my gaming pc in csgo, but on wifi on my tiny intel laptop, GFN (at least the beta) was quite significantly less laggy than playing native

if you have a gpu? definetly dont get gfn, heck even if its like a 1060 or 480

but anything worse or integrated? and maybe even for aaa games with one of those tier gpus

[fickle ore]

Yeah probs fine for AAA SP

[astral haven]

$100 per year to have a gpu 3x as fast in about 50% of games?

[fickle ore]

still would hate to see it get any traction bc it might mean they stop selling PC at some point

[astral haven]

eh

the gpus they are selling are already dumb expensive

i hope they keep working on both

and yes id prefer to see more personal gpus

but they should keep pushing to have more and more games on geforce now

the whole game pass integration is real sweet

god i cannot get over how awesome the A7CR is!

Sony a7CR Mirrorless Camera (Black) https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1784157-REG/sony_a7cr_mirrorless_camera_black.html

61 megapixel native, 250MP pixel shift, 4k60 full frame pixel binned, 4k60 super35 downsampled from 7k
the new insano autofocus abilities

[rough osprey]

ye downgraded r5

[astral haven]

what

[rough osprey]

a7rv tech in a a7c body

with a few less features

[astral haven]

rv not r5 lel

https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1547009-REG/canon_eos_r5_mirrorless_digital.html
this is the r5 camera lel

[rough osprey]

people say a7 4

[astral haven]

yea if you have the a7 theres no confusion

[rough osprey]

if we talking about sony it should be clear what it is

[astral haven]

a7r5 no confusion

r5 confusion

anyways ye a7r5 in an a7c body
its so tiny

i have an a7iv, and its hard, i use hdmi alot...
but i also use the sigma 50-100 which is 1.3 crop, and the a7iv cant autofocus at 1.3x zoom, i need to zoom all the way to 1.5x or use a teleconverter
both of which get worse IQ 😦

the a7RC and RV are basically the same res in crop mode than my camera is in FF mode

• ofc pixel shift photos

[rough osprey]

its like a sony leica

[astral haven]

well the leicas are all sonys under the hood...

[rough osprey]

but the lowlight is really not at normal sony level

[astral haven]

um no?

[rough osprey]

get a different lens 🤔

[astral haven]

theres actually not a better portrait zoom lens

except maybe the green giant

but thats just insanity and like 12 grand

[astral haven]

but yea what do you mean by that?

[rough osprey]

35-150?

[rough osprey]

do be a bit noisy

looking at raws

[astral haven]

f2-2.8

the 50-100 is 1.8 CA

[primal parrot]

How good is the 60he

[rough osprey]

its crop tho

[astral haven]

its still f1.8

even if you use a teleconverter to convert it into a 65-130 f2.3, its still wider aperture across its range

at 80mm the 35-150 is already 2.8...

also remember even if you crop, you still get shallower dof and more light per pixel with a wider aperture lens

the 35-150 is definetly more practical tho

half the weight or whatever

[rough osprey]

does that really make it the best portrait lens?

would just get a 85mm f.. tbh

[astral haven]

Nope
Just the best zoom

[rough osprey]

for better quality and all

[astral haven]

Yep but I actually want zoom also the 50-100 was cheaper than an 85 1.4

[rough osprey]

Would be a weird combo with the a7cr then

[astral haven]

Oh definetly

It's a weirder combo with my Olympus em1 iii

[rough osprey]

more ergonomic tho

[astral haven]

What?

You have to hold the weight fully by the lens

[rough osprey]

c grips looks tiny

and kinda is

didnt hold the olympus but looks bigger

[astral haven]

It's smaller

The sensor is 2x crop factor

[rough osprey]

the camera itself is bigger

is there anything you dont like about the a7 4?

probably gonna buy one next week

[astral haven]

Losing autofocus with digital zoom
Poor digital crop

Low res photos in crop mode

[rough osprey]

ye i only got ff lenses

[astral haven]

4k15 webcam mode, and the cam won't stay fully charged

[rough osprey]

Okay also not that relevant for me

anything else?

[astral haven]

Nope, it's otherwise pretty fantastic

The lack of slow motion video support for SD cards is somewhat annoying
And the forced crop in 4k60 is also rude

[rough osprey]

v90 should do everything 🤔

[astral haven]

yep
yet they forcibly lock v90 off

gotta get a CFExpress card if you wanna use the slow motion

who knows they may have fixed with firmware update 2

[rough osprey]

https://youtu.be/su-ZGwfwZK8?si=U6mD3kBza4JuhWgb

u sure?

he said there is a bug that 4k60 says no to v90 in sq but not in movie

but there are the same

[astral haven]

yes but thats not slow motion

[rough osprey]

https://twitter.com/LogitechG/status/1697368771902534010?t=RrbeQYBlfop3l44ubllEBA&s=19 finally official

Logitech G (@LogitechG)

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[astral haven]

i cant do anything above 60

[rough osprey]

have u used s & q?

[astral haven]

yes thats what im talking about

[rough osprey]

even my a7riii does 1080p 120

[astral haven]

yea seems it works for 120 but it supports 240

[pale sigil]

is that meant to sound horrible

ok it was the preview that sounded horrible

[astral haven]

nvm im confused, all i know is that if i flip the cam into S&Q it pops up an error even though im using a v90 card

[pale sigil]

its prob a new submersible controller @rough osprey

[rough osprey]

hm weird

[rough osprey]

sadly not

[pale sigil]

Ye, tbf the community would implode after the last reveal.

[vagrant pagoda]

@astral haven 520tb of nvme flash that dose 80GB/s over network is a strecht of home lab https://www.reddit.com/r/homelab/comments/166mxep/my_submission_for_the_most_overkill_storage_in_a/

xd

[astral haven]

🤤

beautiful

[vagrant pagoda]

they only paid 25 grand for it

which is not terrible

[astral haven]

ye less than the total cost of all my equipment

thats over 600g

[vagrant pagoda]

that was used

[astral haven]

either using 800g or big time bonding

[vagrant pagoda]

the drives go for like 400 bucks used

it has 8 200Gbe

[astral haven]

holy hell

[vagrant pagoda]

yeah it will do 80GB/s

[astral haven]

what a beauty

[vagrant pagoda]

the flash is worth 28k used lol

[astral haven]

thats a bit slow for the networking

theoretical peak 200GB/s

[vagrant pagoda]

1600 gbit?

[astral haven]

ye

[vagrant pagoda]

the drives only do 80 in raid

so not really

[astral haven]

yea the networking could be halved and the same effect

or swapping to 100G cards

in theory

[vagrant pagoda]

well

the single client speed would be half

the crazy thing

[astral haven]

nah, i forget what its called but its a newish feature that allows you to do crazy bs with single clients

[vagrant pagoda]

there are 8, 8 core broardwell xeons in there

each with 32gb of ram

lol

nvme is meshed

[astral haven]

ooooh so its 8 systems basically?

each system does 10GB/s?

[vagrant pagoda]

they all have access to all the flash

[astral haven]

ye

[vagrant pagoda]

so they all can do 32x gen 3

16x to nic and 16x to mesh

i read the manual wrong

[astral haven]

oh so hes actually throttling the heck out of those nics

running em on gen 3

[vagrant pagoda]

noi

x16 gen 3 can do 200gbit

[astral haven]

16x gen 3 is 128gbit

i know this very well

[vagrant pagoda]

derp

i was looking at gen 4

the whole point is wide avability over speed i wouild guess

why else would there be 8 nodes

[astral haven]

yea except it would be literally identical by using 100g nics

im still hella jealous

[vagrant pagoda]

many using a 200-100x2 fanout dac/

idk what gen of 200 that is

there is 50x4 and 100x2

[astral haven]

what

yea no

100 per channel is 800g generation

400g is 8x50g

[vagrant pagoda]

yeah and there is a 200g spec for both

[astral haven]

yea but theres no 2x100g

maybe 8x25g

[vagrant pagoda]

yeah there is

[astral haven]

but theres no 100g phy yet

at least not in the cx-6 generation

cx-8 might have the option

[vagrant pagoda]

yeah i didnt read what nic it was

[astral haven]

cx-8 also doesnt exist yet

[vagrant pagoda]

cx6 is only QSFP56 so its x50

[astral haven]

ye

[vagrant pagoda]

yeah

cx7 has 100g

[astral haven]

not per channel

[vagrant pagoda]

yes

the 400g cx7 are 100g

[astral haven]

oh shit nice

[vagrant pagoda]

but

[astral haven]

none of that qsfp-dd cheating bs?

[vagrant pagoda]

they dont do 200g 100x2

it only dose 400 at 100x4

[astral haven]

yea theres no 200g 100x2 standard

[vagrant pagoda]

yeah there is

200GBASE-CR2/Vr2/SR2

just like 400g is CR4/VR4/SR4

[vagrant pagoda]

OSFP

[astral haven]

ah shoot so they are cheating

[vagrant pagoda]

?

[astral haven]

oh no they do have qsfp112

no cheating here

true 100g phys

[vagrant pagoda]

yep

[astral haven]

400g on osfp and qsfpdd is usually 56gx8

[vagrant pagoda]

https://www.ebay.com/itm/145138723051

pics

they are real deal

look at all that heatsinking lol

also they are pcie5

[astral haven]

looks like osfp to me

[vagrant pagoda]

i said that

[astral haven]

🤷 could have been either one

[vagrant pagoda]

most 400g is osfp because power

12 vs 15w

[astral haven]

yea

also real heatsinking

[vagrant pagoda]

yep

that card needs a ton of airflow

its 30w+optical power

so 45w

[astral haven]

incredible stuff

[vagrant pagoda]

wait

the manual list 100x2 for 200g

so its possible

[astral haven]

im happy with my dual 100g cards, cheapest way to get into SMF over 40gbps

[vagrant pagoda]

the 200g cx7 has 200x2 too

[astral haven]

yea i know, we know its possible since theres a qsfp112 version

[vagrant pagoda]

smf?

[astral haven]

singlemode

fiber

[vagrant pagoda]

ah

mine is all dac

[astral haven]

your dacs are more expensive than my fiber was (if you bought em new)

[vagrant pagoda]

lol new

[astral haven]

ofc

but like pricing used is super variable

[vagrant pagoda]

my one long run

[astral haven]

its possible i spent less but its unlikely

[vagrant pagoda]

is using qsfp+ to 40gbe

they are like 20 bucks

[astral haven]

guess how much i paid for each transceiver

[vagrant pagoda]

porb cheap

but im hoping someone makes a 40g destop XD

built in to mobo

[astral haven]

obviously otherwise i wouldnt be bragging about how cheap i got em
guess
100g single mode

[vagrant pagoda]

optics are dirt used though

[astral haven]

sure but not ususally this low

and especially not singlemode

sure these are only 500m singlemodes, but thats still datacenter grade

[vagrant pagoda]

why even care if its singhle mode anyway

the fiber is the cheap part

[astral haven]

actually no

100g capable MMF is $80 per 100m

800g capable smf is $30 per 100m

[vagrant pagoda]

i only got dac

so i fidgures it was cheaper

100g dac was like a buck a meter when i got my 40g for 20c a meter

[astral haven]

ye
but again guess how much i paid for my transceivers

[vagrant pagoda]

more than i did

lol

[astral haven]

well you didnt buy transceivers

[vagrant pagoda]

wait i just looked

[astral haven]

yea

its insane

[vagrant pagoda]

isnt a active opticl cable just normal fiber?

[astral haven]

sorta?

[vagrant pagoda]

same seller i got my dac

[astral haven]

but also more expensive by far than what i got

[vagrant pagoda]

has 50m aoc 100g for $50

all in

2 transcivers and 1 50m mmf

[astral haven]

still more muns than i paid 2 years ago

[vagrant pagoda]

this is new

[astral haven]

and i got smf

smf>mmf

run once and forget forever

mmf is generational upgrade

[vagrant pagoda]

not really

om3 is dirt cheap

and can do 800g

[astral haven]

om3 cannot do 800g for more than a few meters

[vagrant pagoda]

30m

which is more than a homelab

waait

there is a 60m spec in for om3

[astral haven]

singlemode is cheaper

and also not at its upper limits

os2 can hit 10km 100g

and os2 was released around when om2 did afaik

[vagrant pagoda]

yeah

[astral haven]

oop os2 can do 40km 100g but it needs the high freq lasers

[vagrant pagoda]

no one is penny pinching on a km lenth run

[astral haven]

point is more about the upgradeability in the future

[vagrant pagoda]

but om3 is under a buck a foot

[astral haven]

so is os2

[vagrant pagoda]

and om3 optics are dirt everyday

[astral haven]

🤷 all the good shiz is singlemode

[vagrant pagoda]

also

single mode optics are 3 bucks for 100g

[astral haven]

exactly

thanks intel

20 bucks for 50 meters is pretty common now

i paid 30 a year and a half ago, but intel is flooding the market

[vagrant pagoda]

which is the same for mm

they are 4 bucks

optics are cheap

[astral haven]

what?

where?

[vagrant pagoda]

ebay

[astral haven]

linkaroo

also none of that MPO bs

Dual LC only

[vagrant pagoda]

i just searched sr4

and it popped up

was a lot of 6

[astral haven]

yea seeing plenty of mpo bs

but thats using 12 fibers

1/6 the density of smf

yea mpo is spensive asf

aint cheap at all

miss me with that BS, LC duplex only

[pale sigil]

is there a way to fix this bs

windows store puts so many fucking folders in my other drive even though i selected the xboxgames folder

[vagrant pagoda]

that isnt bs

thats just jank

[pale sigil]

Its bs, why cant i contain it all in one folder

also thats where my run.sh file went

i yeeted it all

time to start fresh

[latent mural]

https://tenor.com/view/forrest-gump-running-me-when-im-late-tom-hanks-gif-5144739

[pale sigil]

https://tenor.com/view/mad-angry-middle-finger-annoyed-frustrated-gif-25994290

I HATE IT

fuck it, i hid them.

i have 93gb on stable diffusion

Man i need to buy a 4tb

so i dont need to care

[final flame]

I feel ya

I'm running low too

[pale sigil]

I have 4tb in my nas

all my data is OS/Games

[final flame]

but I don't got money, otherwise I would buy a 4tb nvme drive

[pale sigil]

pain

[final flame]

ahha ha ha

we don't talk about this

[pale sigil]

thats download hun

im at 209gb downloads

got files from 2015 lmao

[final flame]

well damn

[astral haven]

pro tip
take your download folder whenever you notice it getting big, and throw it on an external

[final flame]

you see I used to that, then I ran out of space

[pale sigil]

tbh

i just need to clean it

its all on my nas and its mostly garbage i dont need

i have like 10+ copies of Ubuntu

[final flame]

I plan to eventually get a nas, just don't have the money rn

[astral haven]

lel

[pale sigil]

ye buit thats on gdrive

i do not want my shit on gdrive

[final flame]

same

[astral haven]

no this is a backup of my pc

[pale sigil]

thats still on gdrive?...

een worse

are they at least encrypted

[astral haven]

look fam, i cant afford 7tb of cloud storage anywhere else

[final flame]

we at mw levels of storage

[pale sigil]

is it encrypted

[astral haven]

{things isnt

[pale sigil]

NOPE

[astral haven]

fyi this is google business

[pale sigil]

ik

i dont want google knowing my kinks

[astral haven]

you get true privacy protections

[pale sigil]

google and privacy dont mix

[astral haven]

it aint consumer freeware

[astral haven]

common misconception

consumer and business are very different services

[final flame]

yea stepmania folders can get absurdly large
Foxfire has a archive of charts from all around and it's over a tb

[pale sigil]

i still dont want my data on another server

free to view

[astral haven]

🤷 this data is freely available online or at least was when i downloaded it

you can use rsync or other services as an intermediary to encrypt the data on the way, or even harsher stuff like veracrypt

[pale sigil]

anyone want all the leaked gta footaged before i delete it

xD

[final flame]

the lteks are good, they just need to be modded quite a bit

[halcyon willow]

me

dms

[pale sigil]

to late sorry

xD

[halcyon willow]

bro wtf lol

it was only a minute haha

[pale sigil]

me brain going 100000mph rn

[final flame]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gv-L8vRncGw

[true quest]

sad hours

[mild dome]

Time 4 Glu

[final flame]

Man I wish my starfields still worked properly, easily my favorite iem despite it's flaws

I managed to get it working slightly with vented tips, but my normal tips cause driver flex

[true quest]

time for a more comfortable headset

[latent mural]

Glarxses

IEMs or headphones for you?

[final flame]

usecase, for desk use headphones totally
iems I do like them for on the go use, and I also have a shit ton of nostalgia for my starfields which I spent almost the entirety of my highschool years with, only failing near the end of my senior year

recently I have been using a focal bathys for on the go use but honestly I still do like iems more
despite the bathys technically outspecking every iem I have

[astral haven]

rip
looks like rossmann is retiring

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2rQ62s87jvw

[frozen ingot]

taking on new york state is one thing, taking on the entire church of scientology is...quite another

[astral haven]

Yup

[gusty kiln]

Don't want to wake up to Tom Cruise standing at your bed with a knife

[mild dome]

Wat
Y scientology doin that

[frozen ingot]

gotta stop people from hacking them e-meters

[mild dome]

Aren't they like 2 wires attached to a tomato plant or something?

[astral haven]

watch the vid lel

[sharp badger]

https://twitter.com/LogitechG/status/1697368771902534010?t=fJpaFIjOX1xPzxiW7wjOxg&s=19 Seems like they've got a release date now

Logitech G (@LogitechG)

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[cursive summit]

https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2023/08/google-kills-two-year-pixel-pass-subscription-after-just-22-months/

Add it to the killed google projects list

[raw zephyr]

https://tenor.com/view/skill-issue-blind-color-blind-allu-gif-24350379

[halcyon willow]

banned from mousereview

[raw zephyr]

that is unfortunate

[old marlin]

maybe don't spread antisemitism

[halcyon willow]

dude

I didn't even say anything lol

[mild dome]

woah

[halcyon willow]

I said that because I didn't want him saying anything angering enough to get me banned, which ironically got me banned lol

not like it matters to you anymore

[old marlin]

there is no excuse for that

[halcyon willow]

well he is one

i know the guy

[old marlin]

that is no excuse

[halcyon willow]

I understand

[old marlin]

makes it worse even

[halcyon willow]

not a good place to talk about this

[frozen ingot]

yeah might mean nothing by it but without that context it looks...

[pale sigil]

Didn't even know this existed as a pixel owner

This is depressing

It shows way more details than I thought including my usernames

[reef patrol]

Should have used the dank web instead.

[cursive summit]

https://www.barrons.com/articles/intel-arizona-fab-f619a46c?st=roza7otnw8x6ghy&mod=googlenewsfeed

Gelsinger seems more akin to Jensen in terms of CEO

A lot of talk

https://videocardz.com/newz/amd-radeon-rx-7800-xt-alleged-scores-19k-points-in-timespy-matching-rx-6800xt

This is just sad

It just matches 6800XT while being a generation newer

Not even the price is going to be worth it, same price as current 6800XT pricing

[pale sigil]

This is sad to see

So many breaches

[cursive summit]

At least like, it's actually worth buying considering it gets 16GB of VRAM

And RDNA3 AI cores for some features

So 6800XT gets a mini-upgrade basically

[pale sigil]

Fuck me my dob was leaked

Fuck you Deezer

[solemn remnant]

lul

[pale sigil]

I feel violated

Ignorance is a bliss

Haha! Looks like using fake phone numbers paid off

[cursive summit]

https://www.club386.com/scott-herkelman-qa-amd-radeon-boss-answers-your-burning-rx-7800-xt-questions/

[ashen spindle]

Isn’t this like the third time you link this

[cursive summit]

This?

This is brand new

[ashen spindle]

Ah ok second the other was V

[cursive summit]

RX 7800XT will be pretty good value in 2 years when it goes down to 300$

Sadly, not on launch

[ashen spindle]

Right I forgot you don’t read what you link so you didn’t know the videocardz article you posted was literally just quoting the club386 site

[solemn remnant]

🐒

[ashen spindle]

Just type Scott on the search bar and this is the 3rd time this comes up now

[cursive summit]

That was literally just for the 12WHP whatever connector

[ashen spindle]

Yes part of it and it links to the full interview

[halcyon willow]

whats jmac doing here

[cursive summit]

Google Bard is now available in EU

Should be an alright match to GPT-4

Nothing too amazing

[steep creek]

Perhaps it’s only in the eu. My account is apparently not supported lol

[wheat plume]

....why though

Oh....
It just pulls them from YouTube lol

[cursive summit]

AYO this is hella cool https://www.pcworld.com/article/2045945/lenovos-legion-9i-uses-ai-liquid-cooling-for-premium-performance.html

4000$ price tag notwithstanding, 16:10 1440p mled display

16:10 needs to come back

WiFi 7 compatible, 100% Adobe rgb/DCI-P3

Pretty much a technological marvel of what we have right now

[old marlin]

heatpipes = liquid cooling

[cursive summit]

It's not liquid cooled?

[old marlin]

why would it be

[cursive summit]

The internals of this thing will get extremely hot

[old marlin]

I mean it is right next to "uses AI"

[cursive summit]

Liquid cooling isn't new for laptops

[old marlin]

[cursive summit]

Asus does it with their top end models I think

[old marlin]

you mean the asus and XMG ones?

[old marlin]

used to do it

[cursive summit]

And I definitely saw a modern XMG with liquid cooling

[old marlin]

this thing

[cursive summit]

Ew

[old marlin]

yea but that also needs an external rad

as well as an external pump

without an external radiator there is no reason to liquid cool in that amount of space

[cursive summit]

Well the Lenovo apparently does use liquid cooling

[old marlin]

I mean technically the heatpipes can use liquids

[cursive summit]

They used the copper heatpipes for water I assume

[old marlin]

would be stupid

[cursive summit]

It works, apparently

Wait did they do a hybrid?

[old marlin]

The system—co-engineered with Cooler Master—runs over the GPU VRAM to manage heat under extreme gaming sessions, turning on when the GPU hits 84°C to cool the GPU back down.

what

they kick in the liquid cooler on vram

to get gpu temps down

[cursive summit]

It says that the cooling system only kicks up at 84 so

Do they run air cooling until it gets hot

Then flush the heatpipes with water for "ultra cooling"?

[old marlin]

I mean they say it also only cools the vram

[old marlin]

a heat pipe has to be sealed

you can't flush it

[cursive summit]

So where's the water then

[old marlin]

in another pipe

[old marlin]

I assume they just replaced the colplate kind of deal

that you normally get

[cursive summit]

Ah, must be the smaller one under the left fan

[old marlin]

that would cover the vram etc

taht thing

looks suspiciouly like a pump

seems to do it like that

but idk

[cursive summit]

Oh nein

[old marlin]

but it's also not in the image shared on pcw

[cursive summit]

They are using the fast charge phone tech to charge the laptop really fast

70% charge in 30 minutes

That totally doesn't sound like battery degradation

[old marlin]

[cursive summit]

Although the fast charge seems scuffed

[frozen ingot]

great for temps and part longevity as well

[cursive summit]

70% - 30 minutes
100% - 80 minutes

How's that normal?

[old marlin]

seems fine

[cursive summit]

It nearly triples the charge time for full charge instead of 70%

[old marlin]

you wanna slow it down at the top end

[cursive summit]

I guess they hammer it really hard for that initial charge

So basically you always want it to be above 70% to sustain the battery life

[old marlin]

or have the option to disable that in the bios

[cursive summit]

I mean, it still looks like an amazing piece of kit

Specifically the display looks like a muah, chef's kiss

16:10 is wonderful

[old marlin]

tbh

don't give a shit about laptop displays

even though I use one at work daily

[cursive summit]

Is WiFi7 even a thing yet?

Afaik WiFi 6 is barely adopted in most devices

[old marlin]

no

[cursive summit]

Then there's the much better 6e which is barely used

[old marlin]

wifi 7 is not even finalized

[cursive summit]

Why are we at wifi 7 already

[rough osprey]

you can buy stuff that will support it

so probably close

[cursive summit]

Yeah but the vast majority of consumer electronics, smart utensils, 4K TVs, etc don't even support WiFi 6

[rough osprey]

kinda just for phones and tablet

and laptop

[fickle ore]

cant have holo & IoT stuff etc without faster wifis 🙂

[cursive summit]

That 6GHz band is pretty cool for minimizing interference

[steep creek]

next years iphone 16 are supposedly coming with wifi 7, though wifi 6e, let alone 6 is not that popular yet i think

at least not in my home

[fickle ore]

time to buy $Nok they're leading 6G

[cursive summit]

WeirdChamp, WiFi is something else

[old marlin]

very important on your iphone

so you can uhh uhhhh

[cursive summit]

Yeah, nobody really needs that speed

[old marlin]

at least not right now

[cursive summit]

5G and WiFi 6 cover virtually everything

[steep creek]

im fine with low speeds on phones, i only call and text really on it, some light browsing

[old marlin]

doubt it will ever get a usecase on a current day smartphone

[old marlin]

yea but you can do MUCH more with wifi 6 already

[cursive summit]

Prolly the super mobile gamers need that extra 1ms less ping

[old marlin]

but you won't edit 4k raw footage from a nas on your phone

[old marlin]

not a thing

[cursive summit]

What's not a thing

Mobile gamers or 1ms less ping?

[old marlin]

the lower ping

[steep creek]

yeap true, but personally i only need high speed on my computer and perhaps apple tv for movies. my tablet has wifi6e but i dont use it to its full potential

nice to have though

[old marlin]

just bandwidth (aka what wifi 7 will improve) is more than you will need on your computer or appletv

wifi 6 is prob faster than your connection anyways

[steep creek]

yeap im not saying no to wifi 7 haha

[rough osprey]

they should only focus on efficiency

i need negative power draw

router should charge my phone

[cursive summit]

Sounds like LiFi

WiFi6(e) speed is 574 to 9608mbit, 5G is up to 10 gigabit per second

Do we need these speeds for anything?

[solemn remnant]

yes

[cursive summit]

Like, typical high quality video streaming is like what, 10-30 mbit/s?

[rough osprey]

im only streaming uncompressed 8k raw video

[cursive summit]

Nothing requires such speeds

Why don't they fix Bluetooth first

[rough osprey]

they trying lol

[cursive summit]

BT5 is laggy af and gets choppy at like 1m radius

[rough osprey]

le audio is new

[cursive summit]

Low Energy is cool but

Why is it also low performance

2.4GHz band for wireless still is just so much faster

Energy consumption is pretty bad but the performance matters most in wireless devices

[rough osprey]

isnt audio like the primary use for Bluetooth now

and maybe mice without dongle

[cursive summit]

Primary as in, people that actually are forced to use it? Probably yes

But it's available on lots of things

It's just really bad

[rough osprey]

i mean better then cable

[cursive summit]

Uh, I'd always prefer cable over any wireless protocol

[rough osprey]

at home yeah

[rough osprey]

but not when moving

[cursive summit]

Tbf also when moving

[steep creek]

legendary lol

[cursive summit]

I can easily run or cycle with wired headphones on

Doesn't bother me much

Wireless is less hassle but also far less performance

I actually care about audio fidelity, and bluetooth vs wired is just non-comparable and pisses me off

[rough osprey]

hm not a fan of having the cable there

and extra space it takes carrying

[steep creek]

i probably could not go back to airpods, if i experienced expensive IEMS, so this is why i stick to just airpods lol

[rough osprey]

battery life and audio quality also not an issue anymore so

the audioquality between the wireless buds and similar priced iems is pretty close tbh

atleast on the better ones

[cursive summit]

You mean airpods pro 2nd gen and something like Moondrop Blessing3 are comparable?

Not in a million years

[rough osprey]

Galaxy buds 2 pro and blessing 2 dusk are pretty close

and the buds are noticable better then something like zero

[cursive summit]

Ehh, not buying it

Buying as in, believing

[rough osprey]

just from my experience 🤷‍♂️

buds also bit cheaper so

[magic rampart]

Just look at frequency response measurements, that's what you're going to hear

[cursive summit]

Meh, not planning to buy any of the higher end wireless anything

If I get a WH-1000XM5 with a Sony Xperia purchase, I'd be pretty happy

[raw zephyr]

shokz openrun pro for sports lol

anything else is too uncomfortable or slips out of my ear

[rough osprey]

sure

just sharing my experiences

[cursive summit]

Yeah, I see how you're thinking

But I just prefer wired cause of that extra fidelity

Also, headphones > buds

I wonder if the WH-1000XM5's are any good for hi-fi listening

[raw zephyr]

wire is a no go for sports

unless you do chess or something

[cursive summit]

Doesn't matter to me

I can easily run with wires

Although if wireless ever comes close to the soundstage, spacious presentation, bombastic sound, then sure, I'd prolly exchange wired for wireless

[latent mural]

Banned from chess tourneys lol

[rough osprey]

what iems are you running with lol

[raw zephyr]

mate if you care about sound quality when running you are not working hard enough

[latent mural]

But muh tonality’s and shit

[rough osprey]

can you noise cancel your heartbeat when running?

[latent mural]

If you try hard enough

With some $6,000 IEMs

[raw zephyr]

hold your breath and pass out, silence

[cursive summit]

And that's none of your business

Plus I mostly just walk places and it's really relaxing to listen to some good audio

[raw zephyr]

i'm just saying how it is bud

[latent mural]

Chill Vex

[cursive summit]

That's not how it is lol

[raw zephyr]

https://tenor.com/view/big-trouble-if-i-speak-if-i-speak-i-am-in-big-trouble-speak-big-gif-23519858

[latent mural]

Say it.

[frozen ingot]

its not that hard these days to find good wireless sound on the cheap, its not that expensive adding the wireless stuff these days

[raw zephyr]

true

[raw zephyr]

check your dm

[cursive summit]

AYO https://www.gsmarena.com/sony_xperia_5_v-review-2605.php

8 Gen 2 on the midrange phone?

Victus 2? OLED?

That's a flagship not a midend

People are complaining about 8GB RAM lol

That's enough to run Windows 10 and 11, if that's "stingy" then ask Android to fuck off and stop hogging system resources

[reef patrol]

Last time I told Google to do anything, they ignored me. 😦

[old marlin]

android tends to do a lot more multitasking than a pc does

while being on basically indefinetley

[hasty thunder]

Well, from personal experience 8 GB is indeed a bit low, but luckily i can use RAM plus

[cursive summit]

RAM plus?

[hasty thunder]

what it basically does: You can allocate internal memory to become additional RAM, storing more long term important data to it

[old marlin]

so caching?

very normal thing

[hasty thunder]

8 GB is the maximum tho. But yeah, at the end i'm at 12+8 GB RAM

don't know if it's a Samsung only thing, but yeah, works for me, since it cuts the booting time from 3-4 minutes to around 30 seconds

[reef patrol]

FOUR MINUTES!?

[hasty thunder]

yep, seems like the RAM runs full quite fast while booting

[steep creek]

that sounds too long to be honest

hm

[cursive summit]

It does take a long time to boot up something like Samsung Tab S8 Ultra

Like a few mins

Must be all of those "security features" like Knox

[reef patrol]

I am so glad my OP does it in like 30 seconds or less 😄

I'd go insane

[cursive summit]

Just don't discharge the phone weSmart

[steep creek]

my watch spends about a minute i think thats too long lol

[pale sigil]

Wtf

4 minutes?

[cursive summit]

I feel like Sony shot themselves in the foot with Xperia 5 V

[hasty thunder]

well, i had RAM Plus enabled a few months ago and didn't notice any change. So i turned it off and booting took an eternity till i tried with RAM Plus on

[cursive summit]

Xperia always had 3 tiers, 1 5 and 10

[hasty thunder]

the difference is significant

[cursive summit]

Why is Xperia 5, the midrange, 1000$

When Xperia 1 is like 1200$

They flagshipped the midrange

[pale sigil]

I've never heard of a phone taking minutes to boost wtf

[hasty thunder]

To pull a nGreedia, baiting you into buying the more expensive stuff

[steep creek]

same

[cursive summit]

It's the opposite

You are now not going to buy the Xperia 1

Cause 5 has all the features of the 1

For cheaper

You are shooting your own top-end in the foot

[hasty thunder]

oh, ok

[cursive summit]

But then, what of the mid-range?

Really weird marketing

[pale sigil]

Pixel has titan too

[hasty thunder]

it's Sony after all. They probably have an ace up their sleeves

[cursive summit]

New tier, Xperia 7

Any company that wants to be successful imo has to have a 300$, 600$ and a 1000$ phone

Some peeps spend very little, most around half a grand

And there's always a good amount of peeps that buy the high end either cash or monthly payments

[hasty thunder]

[cursive summit]

Yeah Xperia 5 II, and 5 IV were around 700$

They got uptiered into flagship 1000$

[hasty thunder]

prefer to buy something directly. Monthly payment sucks

the additional fees on monthly payments are ridiculous nowadays

[cursive summit]

Although, I might be wrong here cause 5 IV actually had Gorrilla Victus, 8 gen 1 and OLED https://www.gsmarena.com/sony_xperia_5_iv-11838.php

Which is pretty much just top-end hardware for 700$

So they did the same here with 5 V, except pricing went up to 1000$

Which is weird cause Xperia 1 V is actually cheaper over 1 IV MSRP

[frozen ingot]

so what you're saying is I should get an xperia 5 V next

[cursive summit]

https://www.gsmarena.com/compare.php3?idPhone1=12263&idPhone2=12534

I mean.. yeah

You get less RAM which is sad

But otherwise they are identical

Same exact phone

Oh and cameras are different

[frozen ingot]

figured

[cursive summit]

Oh yeah it's missing the telephoto

Which tbf I'm not too sure what that's used for

[frozen ingot]

that it? the main lens the same?

[cursive summit]

Same ones, Exmor-T

Their newest ones

[frozen ingot]

nice

[cursive summit]

I need to look up what a telephoto camera does

Oh it's a zoom lens?

[frozen ingot]

I pretty much never use the second wide angle lens on my phone

[cursive summit]

I guess it's a pity they don't exist but, I don't do any photography so them just packing all the good stuff of Xperia 1 V in a cheaper package is still a good deal

[frozen ingot]

it has a lot worse light sensitivity

feels a bit pointless going through the effort of adding a second lens if the lowlight performance is dogshit compared to main lens

[cursive summit]

And it still retains the 3.5mm jack ❤️

https://youtu.be/iPM_wMQ5Oe8

Interesting marketing

[hasty thunder]

?

[cursive summit]

Responding to a negative review of your product

Some reviewer called the Nothing TWS buds as trash

They.. actually responded

[hasty thunder]

idk if it's really a response or more of a behind the scenes thing for their 2nd ear buds

[cursive summit]

Well it's good marketing

They are transparent, got called out for bad tuning and did their thing to fix it

https://www.theverge.com/2023/8/31/23852955/ibm-uk-government-contract-biometric-facial-recognition

[ashen spindle]

Lol the intel photonics chips at hot chips was a collaboration so intel didn’t actually do the photonics part but they basically never mentioned that lol

[astral haven]

That's surprising
Intel has a ton of photonics prior art

It's fabbed on tsmc sure but it's still Intel tech

[ashen spindle]

I know surprised me too

Apparently it was not the thing they showed during architecture day when they plugged it in live

3second comment at the end that it was Ayar labs apparently

[astral haven]

yea same thing on the STH writeup

[ashen spindle]

think patrick wrote the articles while at HC so that makes sense

not a lot of time

[astral haven]

xperia 5 v got 120hz 4k added to the standard camera app!
probably means the 1v is also getting that or even already has it
nice!

https://www.servethehome.com/the-new-mikrotik-crs310-8g2sin-finally-joins-2-5gbe-switch-revolution-marvell-arm/
Heck yea!

https://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_galaxy_s24_ultra_expected_with_an_upgraded_200mp_main_sensor-news-59753.php
eh better than nothing
moar telephoto cam rumors pls

Oh shoot i forgot about APTX support
if i get an iphone, the quality of my bt earbuds will drop off a cliff...

[sharp badger]

The Vivo X100 Pro will have some big periscope lens too

And yeah that's one thing with the iPhone that's also holding me back from buying one

[astral haven]

yea i did the math, its lower angular res than the s2#U

[sharp badger]

Just want to be free to chose whatever and it'll be good with everything (Headphones, cables etc.)

[astral haven]

better quality in the mid ranges, but the s24u is swapping the pitiful 3x 12mp sensor with a much better 50mp one

and ofc the sony has better midrange quality than all of the above thanks to optical

[astral haven]

the sony is so tempting

and the iphone 15 pro max or ultra (whatever the name ends up as) is adding a serious telephoto
unknown focal length

[sharp badger]

The Sonys seem to have good battery overall

[astral haven]

x100 is 100mm
s2#u is 240mm
sony is 85-125mm

[rough osprey]

apple should make their phones lighter

[astral haven]

iphone is likely gonna be 120mm

[sharp badger]

Sadly with Sony phones they only come with 2 OS upgrades & 3 security patches

If it hasn't changed?

[astral haven]

yea they are quite significantly more expensive with a 2 year shelf life vs the 4 of samsung and the 3-6 of apple

[cursive summit]

Ok, and?

Doesn't matter

[astral haven]

yes it fkn does gimme a break

[cursive summit]

If anything thank god they get only few updates

Less device slowdown

[astral haven]

yea thats not a real problem

maybe 10 years ago the socs got so much faster that a new os would run slowly

[steep creek]

yeah modern phones should be able to keep up

[cursive summit]

Keep up w/ what?

[rough osprey]

nah my s21u is running at 20fps max on android 13

[steep creek]

i meant to say, they should not slow down after just a few years, due to software updates

[cursive summit]

But they do

And that's a major issue

[astral haven]

reformat fam
mine is still running like brand new
also s21u on also android 13

[cursive summit]

I was already forced to upgrade cause my phone slowed down cause of updates

[steep creek]

have not noticed this personally on mine, nor my parents ones

[cursive summit]

It's a problem with older phones maybe not so much new ones

[astral haven]

my moms s21u the touch is busted on part of the screen but thats because she dropped it and it broke the screen

[steep creek]

yeah i believe its less of an issue now, than for example 10 years ago

[cursive summit]

But seriously all the big updates add nothing of interest and just hog system resources even more

Like, more colour choices or more customizability?

[rough osprey]

just joking lol

[cursive summit]

Just give me better performance, not worse perf

[rough osprey]

its running better with every new version

[cursive summit]

Security patches, while I also find them of dubious use unless you install random apks, sure, seem nice to have

Android platform updates are just incredibly useless

[astral haven]

there are some pretty major security flaws that get uncovered and fixed lel

the whole touchless invisible complete remote takeover is mostly done now

its now sliiiiiighly more involved and that was a huge effort

[steep creek]

aha yeah was it the nso group?

[rough osprey]

surely phones are secure

[steep creek]

clever stuff but not a fan of what it can do

[astral haven]

not that nso is out of the picture, its still beyond easy to get everything hacked

its just not completely invisible now

[steep creek]

yeah i suppose security is better now than back then

[astral haven]

anyways point is updates on a phone are literally an expected lifetime of the usefulness of the device

if sony expects the device to be done in 2 years, the price per year is half the price of the phone

if apple expects the device to be done in 6 years, the price per yer is 1/6 the price of the phone

and if samsung expects 4 years, its 1/4

this is grade 2 math

and the sony phones are just about tied for most expensive

[steep creek]

sounds reasonable

[sharp badger]

The Samsung A54 gets 4 Os & 5 Security for a €378~ priced phone atm.

Specs could be better on that but still for the price.

[cursive summit]

A54 will also be unusably slow after those 4 OS updates

[gusty kiln]

https://security.samsungmobile.com/workScope.smsb

[rough osprey]

isn't it already at launch

[gusty kiln]

looks like newer devices get 5 years of firmware security updates

[cursive summit]

Not sure how the new mid ranges are, at least a few years back they were unusably slow for anything less than 200$

But it's a 2023 launch 350$ or so phone

Should be snappy enough at the start

[gusty kiln]

the A5X phones get reccomended all the time

[astral haven]

the a54 is using a near flagship soc on the cpu side, its responsive asf

[pale sigil]

I wish Google committed to 5 years

[astral haven]

now sure its not great at gaming but its fast

[gusty kiln]

they are planning to improve that this year

they wana rival apple per rumors

[astral haven]

the xperia 1 v gets 2 years of OS updates and 3 years of security patches and its a $1300 phone

[cursive summit]

Give me a phone with snapdragon 8 gen 2, 3.5mm jack, an AMOLED2X or OLED screen but 0 years of software updates, I'd buy it in a heartbeat if the price is right

[astral haven]

absolute galaxy brain play lel

[gusty kiln]

gen 2? but gen 3 is around the corner

[cursive summit]

Not out yet, but in a month or two it will

[astral haven]

buying a phone that is immediately unsafe

[cursive summit]

Which is funny cause S8G2 is barely adopted

[sharp badger]

https://www.androidauthority.com/pixel-8-tensor-g3-specs-3331398/ This is the leaked G3 specs and not upgrading the modem??

[gusty kiln]

unless he's just gunna install graphene or lineageOS

[astral haven]

if you can afford anything with the 8g2, you probably have enough money that someone stealing all of it would be a problem

[cursive summit]

Me?

No I use only android

[astral haven]

they are android

[pale sigil]

They are both android

[cursive summit]

I just hate the annoying ass "update is available" notification

[pale sigil]

Ya tit

[cursive summit]

Cause 1) I am not installing your updates 2) Fuck off with your updates

Android doesn't allow you to tell the notification to fuck off, it's permanently in the notification bar

[gusty kiln]

then get a dumb phone

[astral haven]

what a gigabrain move lel

[cursive summit]

Soz, I only use vanilla android

[gusty kiln]

phone obsolete out of the box

[pale sigil]

Stock

But you use Samsung no?

[astral haven]

they are vanillaer android than anything you can buy besides perhaps the fairfone?

[cursive summit]

More like phone that's not going to bother me with notifications constantly

[pale sigil]

So you use

[cursive summit]

No lol, never buying samsung phones

[gusty kiln]

fairphone is cool

[pale sigil]

What phone do you use

[gusty kiln]

but I want the gigachonk of S2XU

[cursive summit]

Poco x3 rn cause it was cheap af for the internals

[gusty kiln]

lol Poco

[cursive summit]

But guess what, it's fucking slow now

[pale sigil]

That's far from vanilla lol

[pale sigil]

Pcoo is good

Fite me

[cursive summit]

Why is that slow? Cause of damn updates

[gusty kiln]

I would rather not get chinese phones

[cursive summit]

Installed few updates, instant slowdown of responsiveness

[cursive summit]

Nothing really wrong with them other than being chinese

Great bang for the buck

[pale sigil]

I mean it's an old budget phone

Ofc it'll be slow

[cursive summit]

X3 is closing in on 3 years old

But guess what, it was really snappy cause I literally ignored all updates

[gusty kiln]

lmao

[pale sigil]

Even mine has a better CPU from 2019

[cursive summit]

Until I had to force install all of them cause of a weird ass glitch

After that, been unresponsive since

[gusty kiln]

my S20 FE is still snappy, only thing that got worse is battery

[pale sigil]

Later POCO phones were vastly superior

[cursive summit]

Poco peaked with X3 Pro and fell off badly since

[astral haven]

have you considered that the glitch itself may have borked the updates???

[cursive summit]

4 series is horrible

[sharp badger]

Wish that Google would go back to the Play edition phones

[astral haven]

if your phone messes up hardcore you definetly should reformat
obviously

you even do that on the iphone

[sharp badger]

Really liked the HTC One

[cursive summit]

What's the play edition?

[pale sigil]

Have you not seen the poco x5?

[gusty kiln]

HTC ONe was great other than the GIGA-CHIN

[pale sigil]

Great phone for an insane price

[sharp badger]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Google_Play_edition_devices

[cursive summit]

Those brand new or what?

[pale sigil]

Came out here a few months ago

[cursive summit]

I stopped caring for Poco since all of their 4 series phones really missed the mark

[pale sigil]

https://m.gsmarena.com/xiaomi_poco_f5-12258.php

I miss miui so much

[sharp badger]

The Stereo speakers for the HTC One 👍

[cursive summit]

Only 778G and 695 SoCs?

[pale sigil]

Snapdragon 7+ Gen 2

The pro is Snapdragon 8+ Gen 1

Both pretty damn cheap

[cursive summit]

Ew, it's weaker than the 865

[sharp badger]

Still kinda have the Xiaomi 13 Ultra as an alternative to buy but that Zoom is meh

[astral haven]

ok now throw out the multicore tests because they dont actually matter for phone responsiveness

[cursive summit]

It's basically a Snapdragon 845 just has 5G which I don't really care for

[astral haven]

except now using a78 cores

[gusty kiln]

what storage does the phone use?

[cursive summit]

I mean 250$ is alright for that kind of performance

Would prefer an 888 at least

[gusty kiln]

like UFS 3.0 + any decent modern SoC and not garbage android skin should be responsive

for years

[astral haven]

its not superhuman telephoto, but its actually quite high quality at the mid ranges

[sharp badger]

Yeah but can't really buy it here yet so

Maybe in November?

Have never used MIUI either so don't know if it 's good

But wouldn't mind a great all-rounder phone

[astral haven]

yea im really close to actually just getting a xperia 1 v
waiting on what iphone pics for the telephoto

[sharp badger]

Yeah but would just have to get the Airpod Max/Pods Pro then

[astral haven]

yea not happening, ill just take the quality hit

ill take low res over bad tuning any day

[sharp badger]

Ok

[astral haven]

also apple needs to get over itself and just add multipoint

[queen knot]

7950x3d, 4070ti, DDR5@6000mhz, 2tb ssd, o11 dynamic, b650ef

rate?

[cursive summit]

Knock it down to 7800X3D and you have money for an RTX 4080

[queen knot]

got the ram, mobo cpu for $700

[cursive summit]

O11 dynamic is also eh, if you want mATX get the Torrent Compact

I think O11 is one of the smaller cases, not full tower

[misty saffron]

who needs a case

[cursive summit]

Not reviewers that's for sure

There's also the fractal north that some people swear by

Although I think it looks a bit pretentious

Mesh panels though, way more airflow than TG

https://videocardz.com/newz/amds-next-gen-ryzen-8000-apu-spotted-with-16-rdna3-5-gpu-cores

[tall yew]

I would sell the 7950x3d and buy a 7800x3d and get a 4080 instead

[cursive summit]

Tbf that 700$ deal sounds like if you sell the CPU, you'd get your money back for the whole deal

7950X3D is way above 700$ here