🔌│tech

[ashen spindle]

I dont see them having a good way to make profit

[marsh glade]

Good rule of thumb is if you want to own an IPO stock, buy it at 50% off it's high after listing

[gusty kiln]

Kek yeah, it usually dips a bit after being listed

[solemn remnant]

hmm

[astral haven]

gib 540hz oled

[ashen spindle]

540hz normal layout with BFI or similar oled on ultrawide I beg

[cursive summit]

Also Xilinx acquisition will be really big for their growth

[astral haven]

😬

[gusty kiln]

I kinda wana try stacked 32:9s

[final flame]

💀

[gusty kiln]

Effectively 4 monitors

[cursive summit]

On top of eachother?

[gusty kiln]

Yeah

[cursive summit]

Get this thing then https://www.samsung.com/us/computing/monitors/gaming/55-odyssey-ark-4k-uhd-165hz-1ms-quantum-mini-led-curved-gaming-screen-ls55bg970nnxgo/

[astral haven]

except significantly higher resolution

[cursive summit]

A bit of a weird product but eh

[gusty kiln]

A lot of the newer 32:9 are 240hz also

240 is the bare minimum now for main monitor

[final flame]

I hate how many monitors release and they just are too large for the amount of pixel density they have
for the average distance on a desk you'd be viewing from

[cursive summit]

Ah come on

165 is just fine

[gusty kiln]

For pleb eyes

[astral haven]

name one lol

[final flame]

ark

[gusty kiln]

No one buys it though

[final flame]

all the 1440p ultrawides

[astral haven]

the pixels are huge on that monstrosity

[final flame]

specifically the 32:9 1440p ultrawides

[astral haven]

and the 1440p ultrawides are often about the same pixel density as 1080p24 inch

yes

[final flame]

essenstially every corsair monitor sku

[astral haven]

you arent supposed to consider it like one monitor that you want to fully fit in your (acquity) fov

[gusty kiln]

32:9 ultra wide are the same as 1440p27

[astral haven]

^

[gusty kiln]

The corsair 45 inch one is dumb though

[astral haven]

its just 2 monitors extremely well stapled together

[final flame]

the issue with that is even 1440p 27 is kinda not that dense
27 inch 4k is ideal

[astral haven]

yes?

but its more convenient than buying many monitors

[final flame]

the proper viewing distance for a 1440p 27inch is 2 feet

[gusty kiln]

Also i want a kvm on all my monitors now

[astral haven]

🤷 2 feet is a little close for a standard desk

1 meter is the standard

[final flame]

my monitor is all the way back on my desk and I only reach 2 feet when I lean back in my chair

[astral haven]

what

arms length is 1m for the average adult

[final flame]

my desk depth is 30 inches deep

[astral haven]

yes so put your monitor at the back of the desk?

[final flame]

already is

[astral haven]

and sit up straight insead of slouching forward?

[final flame]

if I wanted to put my monitor further I'd need a wall mount

[astral haven]

oh also be aware that the more tv sized monitors have slimmer mounts

if your monitor raises and lowers, its moving your monitor more forward than the arc would sit

now the arc also has a super deep stand, but the monitor is mounted very close to the back

[final flame]

my issue with the arc is it's a bit too big for it's resolution as a monitor
you can get away with 4k 48" at 3ft which is a good distance to be away from it
but at 55 you need to have a far deeper desk, which the curve on the arc doesn't really allow

[astral haven]

you are curving it the wrong way

it was designed to be curved this way

[final flame]

lol

fair, definitly would be more useful that way

[astral haven]

if you curve it the other way it pushes further out from the desk, and then you need it to be mounted lower

but this way you can get a normal monitor experience+ extra

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vl7GWyJP9Dw

also this

lol

[final flame]

this is what makes me mad

45" at 1440p

[astral haven]

🤷 some people actually just have poor vision

and some people are rich enough to have enough space in their room to have a very deep desk

[final flame]

the image on their website is as blurry as this monitor is

[astral haven]

also keep in mind tho you gotta compensate for the extra width

thats only slightly less dense than a 1440p 32 incher

https://www.amazon.com/HEMUDU-Monitor-Computer-Adjustable-Rotation/dp/B09KKY2C9X/
also there are thinner monitor mounts you can attach to the back of your desk
this is likely to move your monitor further away

🤔 are you sure about there not being any issues?

[crisp granite]

NINE PERCENT AFTER HOURS

oooooooo

[fickle ore]

yea by 0,18 % while being up 3 % for the day

[ashen spindle]

Sure, just letting you know there is a new dip so you can buy more

Though I expect in 2-3 quarter you can have another dip

[fickle ore]

Oh I've not bought more. My average is around 30$ and I've stopped adding. It's yielding me some divs rn and waiting for 50-60$+

Ultimately I'll just sell and move over to boring acc etfs true boglehead style

[ashen spindle]

Might not want to look at the numbers next year then lel

[fickle ore]

It's considered to have pretty ok risk/reward tho

Same as Meta at 100$ a while back, when everyone was shitting on it and telling me nobody uses facebook anymore 😛

I'm up 150 % on my meta pos

[astral haven]

up 150% or at 150%

[fickle ore]

up 150%, which isnt that much but beats index

[astral haven]

what

[ashen spindle]

Meta doesn’t have a zen5 semi truck running into its office early next year

[astral haven]

2.5x initial is hella great wtf are you on

[fickle ore]

true

[astral haven]

i mean unless you invested 20 years ago or whatever

[fickle ore]

na last november when it was like 100 kek 😄

[astral haven]

yea hype vs counterhype

[fickle ore]

in hindsight shouldve bought more but im stupid what can you do

[astral haven]

well hindsight is 2020

[fickle ore]

yea

[astral haven]

and who were you to know that meta would be leading the Open source AI charge

jumping from the least productive bandwagon to the most productive one

i was playing around with compressed llama 2 models yesterday and daaaaaamn are they awesome

[fickle ore]

Also sold my mini NVDA pos. at like 300 $ a while back when their TTM P/E was like 200. Seemed too risky but who could've guessed this. Not me 😄

[astral haven]

yup
otherwise their pe ratio would have been 300+

[fickle ore]

It's still crazy high I think but if they keep growing like this that's fine I guess. Though it's hard to grow 88 % yoy or qoq.

[astral haven]

but being the solitary company capable of delivering on the next hype cycle of tech 3 times in a row is insanity

[fickle ore]

yea lol

[astral haven]

gaming then crypto then AI

[fickle ore]

lucky or not? thats the question

[astral haven]

we shall see next time

if ofc we survive ai

[ashen spindle]

Before we need to survive ai ai needs to survive capitalism

[astral haven]

lol dont think thats gonna be a problem

[ashen spindle]

Chatgpt is amazing but what’s the revenue model to make profit

[astral haven]

chatgpt is whatever per month
hiring an intern is a heck of alot more than that

[fickle ore]

Something weird like the internet, they couldnt believe internet could make money at first!

[astral haven]

well thats a pretty bad example lol, there was a huge bust

[fickle ore]

xD

[astral haven]

as long as outfitting your team with chatgpt subscriptions outperforms hiring an extra intern, it will be hella profitable

[fickle ore]

If I ever get tasked to feed AI at my job they can go to hell

gonna sabotage so hard

[astral haven]

the problem is the current ai just learns by looking at outputs...

so if your work has deliverables already, and a history of them, you are screwed

at least eventually

you can buy 130 chatgpt subscriptions for the price of a single minimum wage entry level software dev

[fickle ore]

This kinda becomes a big problem at scale; if you replace all people, who will pay the taxes? And on other hand, who is buying the things after liquid dries up? You somehow gotta keep people worked or on welfare

[astral haven]

you dont replace all the people

you just replace the lowest performing ones :/

thats how it always is

[ashen spindle]

there is also a current issue with copyright etc.

[astral haven]

thats not a problem for organizations with code

[ashen spindle]

well...

depends on the country

[astral haven]

use a lora with purely your own code and you are good to go

[fickle ore]

Tbh I wouldn't mind a 2k€/month welfare check either =P. So keep the AI coming bois.

[astral haven]

and about 90% of the boring part of my job can be automated by AI

the interesting part only probably 20% can get automated with pure software tools

[ashen spindle]

even just trained on own data isnt a clear case, there was a talk at devcom from a lawyer at devcom yesterday that a coworker went to and summarized but need to look at details next week

[astral haven]

the more useful part for coders however is searching for errors

if you could get an ai good enough to always warn you about bugs, that would easily displace about half of the software dev industry

(current)

[ashen spindle]

Ehh

Maybe

But that won’t replace people so cost comes back to topic

[astral haven]

now if you couldnt trust it to always warn you it wouldnt be helpful

[astral haven]

dont think you understand

the printing press didnt "replace" the scribes

[mild dome]

One question you do get is will half the developers really be out of a job, or will they be utilised in other niches?

Eitger way I imagine companies will use AI as an excuse to reduce wages

[astral haven]

it just made the people who used them 100x more productive

[astral haven]

yep the hope is that the software industry will grow by more than the productivity is improved

[fickle ore]

But that essentially means you need 1 for each 100 persons. If that is economy wide on all sectors, it will definitely become an issue that needs tackled at some point.

[astral haven]

why?

[fickle ore]

Can't have only 10% of the population working and rest on welfare

[astral haven]

as long as productivity (i mean real goods productivity) outstrips the rate at which jobs are replaced you are all good

[astral haven]

you can if those 10% have 100x the productive output they did before

technically you just need 10x but thats not practical

[fickle ore]

Sure, but then you have 90% of the country just afk playing games and stuff. I won't complain as long it's not slavery welfare. If they could pay 2-5k/per person benefits they should do that instead of something very little, otherwise it'll become a civil war 😄

[astral haven]

remember 100% of humans used to be used for food production and preparation

people will find stuff to do

now what are the chances that real productivity increases faster than people are displaced from jobs? low

but it can possibly be a good result if we try

[astral haven]

should be something like a percentage of productive output

[solemn remnant]

capitalism has ruined the world

[astral haven]

capitalism has ruined the world the least out of the options we are aware of

capitalism got started around here

[solemn remnant]

ban tradable shares, distribute wealth, give every newborn a personal capital account or a trust which gets topped with universal income until they come of age, no equities, give workers freedom to move between companies freely, tax only corporate revenues

capitalism started when east india company was divided

[astral haven]

thats not capitalism

[solemn remnant]

megacorporate shit capitalism which gives companies all the power was cemented in 1929 and 2008

[astral haven]

no it was cemented in the 16th century
it just took a while for humans to figure out how to optimize it past the point of being beneficial for humanity as a whole

[solemn remnant]

that's kind of the timeline, but the no morals only profit thinking really started with EIC

[astral haven]

🤷 thats very much not what it looks like in history

more people are suffering now by a factor of 10
but we have a factor of a million times more people

[solemn remnant]

yes

[astral haven]

there are problems, but we are using the best framework we have as of yet discovered

[solemn remnant]

just follow my above framework, also give everyone psychedelics

or just abolish work altogether, don't we have enough capital already for everybody

we need love, not labor

[astral haven]

shares are a key portion of how money flows in capitalism, so thats out
distribute wealth is the whole crux of the issue, its not a solution its a description of the problem
equity is shares
worker freedom is also a description of the problem not a solution, theoretically they have freedom
and define corporate revenue, there are plenty of companies that have tiny revenues and outsized impact, or companies that are tiny but technically have a ton of revenue thanks to providing services to many many people

[solemn remnant]

maybe if shares are suddenly votes which you can't buy or sell, everybody in the company has one and then they decide about everything from distribution of profits to what to do next together. make everything smaller, abolish mega-corporations and banks

[astral haven]

no the monetary part is entirely nescessary

[solemn remnant]

would be cool if we found a way where everybody was working for the common good, and not for the 1%

of course all of this is not realistic and I'm not serious, we're fucked unless some kind of a world-wide revolution happens

[astral haven]

🤷 as long as production goes up faster than inequality, its still an improvement

[pale sigil]

I miss having a static IP address

[mild dome]

Fun fact: megacorp head honchos hate capitalism, they wish to eliminate it by destroying competition.

Hence why capitalism tends to kill itself if not properly managed.

Ensuring that the worker has the power ensures good capitalism. Which is why megacorps hate unions

[astral haven]

yup

[mild dome]

Your provider just swapping around your public IP a bunch?

[hasty thunder]

static IPs suck hairy, unwashed balls

[solemn remnant]

that'd make them clean no?

kinda handy

[hasty thunder]

lel

[astral haven]

the main source of our current issues in my opinion is that lobbying has disproportinately more power than constituents in affecting politicians opinions

[pale sigil]

If my modem goes off I get a new one

[vagrant pagoda]

nien

[pale sigil]

Great to avoid bans but sucks for hosting

[vagrant pagoda]

everythjing gets static ip

[pale sigil]

I'll have to set up a dynsns

[astral haven]

ddns

[pale sigil]

Ye

[hasty thunder]

what's the point of having a static IP nowadays? Just use a DDNS

[pale sigil]

I just miss not needing to

[mild dome]

Modem using ipv6 or ipv4?

[vagrant pagoda]

order

[astral haven]

or you can use cloudflare tunnels and also get security and ddos protection

[hasty thunder]

may i give you an advice?

[pale sigil]

4

[pale sigil]

I don't think advice is a physical object

[hasty thunder]

every asus router comes with a free DDNS function

[pale sigil]

I know

I have one :p

[hasty thunder]

buy a cheap one, set it as a repeater, use the DDNS function, call it a day

[pale sigil]

Just not options I would choose

Nvm I can add custom

[hasty thunder]

Zylex also has that option, if you want something more secure

[astral haven]

or you can use a raspi and run a ddns service on that

[pale sigil]

That is also something I was considering

[astral haven]

personally recommend cloudflare tho

[pale sigil]

That's my number 1 choice

I set it up for my friend a while back on his Pi

[hasty thunder]

[vagrant pagoda]

i use CF for all my clients that need ddns

[hasty thunder]

Sry to say, but as someone heavily involved into cyber sec i'm strictly against Cloudflare

[pale sigil]

I want to sort my networking out in general.

[vagrant pagoda]

single url access for ddns is the best

[pale sigil]

Rn it's horrid since I moved room

[astral haven]

you find another company that provides such high efficiency security services for free

[hasty thunder]

room? So you went from basement to sleep room?

[astral haven]

throw your domain behind cloudflare and you actually have a chance of avoiding leaking your real ip

[hasty thunder]

[pale sigil]

10/10

[vagrant pagoda]

i doubt this

cloudflare is a industry staple

[astral haven]

heavily involved and industry professional are very different things

[pale sigil]

I used to have a proper setup 😅, had the router positioned in the center of the house with pihole etc

[hasty thunder]

and too invasive if you're running a business working with delicate data

[vagrant pagoda]

huh

[astral haven]

what

[vagrant pagoda]

if you cant trust CF cdn in the middle

then youre shit isnt going over the internet anyway lol

[astral haven]

yuppo

[solemn remnant]

no cloud anything

best regards,
cybersec professional

[hasty thunder]

don't believe me? Take a look at what data they're tracking the entire time and how often CF sends that tracked data home

[astral haven]

a cybersec specialist who doesnt want anything cloud is unemployeed not a professional

[vagrant pagoda]

if someone compramises CF then your crappy shit over ddns is the LAST thing they will go to

[vagrant pagoda]

that is what a cdn dose dumb ass

lol

[astral haven]

yes
I know what it is because I requested it when I set my security settings lmao

[hasty thunder]

and for that reason alone i can't and won't recommend anyone CF. There are better and more discreet solutions out there if you have the money

[astral haven]

thats a pretty wild misunderstanding

but ok have fun

[solemn remnant]

djl is the problem

and brollan
and rez
and sometimes k0nfig
and sometimes hampus

[astral haven]

what

[pale sigil]

Anyway.... I'm considering getting a repeater or something

Because I can't have my router outside my room anymore.

[solemn remnant]

wrong window

[astral haven]

asus supports using other asus routers as Mesh extenders

akamai?

AWS WAF?

[pale sigil]

I'm using both lol

[astral haven]

a10?

[pale sigil]

Haha I'm using Oracle for servers

And cloudflsre on them

[astral haven]

yea cloudflare doesnt exactly do servers

[pale sigil]

:p

[astral haven]

I use cloudflare DOH on my phone too which is pretty great

i get a nice warning popup whenever someone tries to watch my traffic

[halcyon willow]

thats all cool and shit but, what is the best VPN that I can use?

[astral haven]

theres no best vpn

[halcyon willow]

a good one for torrenting

[vagrant pagoda]

depends on why you want a vpn

dont torrent

[astral haven]

this

[halcyon willow]

I can't not torrent

I kinda need to lol

[vagrant pagoda]

that is factually incorrect

[astral haven]

^

[pale sigil]

The best VPN is a self hosted one

[astral haven]

useless for torrenting tho

the solution tho is to not torrent

[pale sigil]

Why not

[halcyon willow]

we don't care about your anti piracy explanation

what is the best VPN for torrenting

[astral haven]

probably PIA

but im not saying not to privateer, im saying not to torrent

torrenting is stupid

[halcyon willow]

https://tenor.com/view/thankyou-thanks-finally-keyandpeele-serious-gif-4846155

[chrome estuary]

Mullvad

[halcyon willow]

they disabled port forwarding

[vagrant pagoda]

dont seed

torrent over ssl

[chrome estuary]

I have literally 0.9mbps upload anyway

[vagrant pagoda]

you dont need portforwarding to torrent

but also

dont torrent

[halcyon willow]

never

[vagrant pagoda]

get gud

[astral haven]

torrenting is just bad for the internet
download the content properly, if you cant find out how to, i suggest practicing your google skills

[crisp granite]

Stock growth this week nets me more than working full time this entire month

[solemn remnant]

I wish I was smart enough to hop on the system when I was young, now I'm just an old anti-work disgruntled commie

[crisp granite]

I’m a member of the proletariat by day, bourgeoisie on nights and weekends

[solemn remnant]

kinda sounds like student life

[crisp granite]

mmmmmhm

I do be a student

[solemn remnant]

there we go

[crisp granite]

have been for

[astral haven]

how are you working full time as a student???

[crisp granite]

summer

[solemn remnant]

I did too, though I took about 9 years to get my degree lul

[astral haven]

oh right forgot about that

[crisp granite]

That ends in two weeks

[astral haven]

breaks 😦

[crisp granite]

It was nice while it lasted

Having time to work

and…

crap I did nothing but work this summer

[solemn remnant]

I'm sure you'll hate it eventually when all you do is work

[pale sigil]

Oh you're anti torrent

Not anti arrr

[crisp granite]

mmmmmmmmmhm

[astral haven]

yea
get your crap out of my routing table

[crisp granite]

I think I wouldn’t mind it if I had a stimulating job

[solemn remnant]

like uh a prostate massager?

[pale sigil]

I rarely torrent these days

[crisp granite]

Mentally stimulating

[solemn remnant]

[crisp granite]

Although I wouldn’t mind employing such a person for me

A prostate massager

[solemn remnant]

double the stimulation

[crisp granite]

mmm that would be nice

[pale sigil]

Though the place I stream from does

[solemn remnant]

tbh I have to think and sometimes talk all day, after work my brain and body doesn't function anymore

stimulation is fun until there's too much of it

[crisp granite]

my shoulders ache after a day

being at a block

cases of beef piling up

annoying customers with dumb requests

[solemn remnant]

sir this is a wendy's

[crisp granite]

the cold hands

cuts

blood and fat everywhere

hard to tell if it’s mine or the cow’s

[solemn remnant]

so are you a butcher or a sandwich artisan

[pale sigil]

Butcher

[crisp granite]

butcher, but I do make sandos on my own time

it’s an art form

[solemn remnant]

[pale sigil]

They also a spice master

[crisp granite]

just ask @dawn epoch

[solemn remnant]

ohh spicy

[crisp granite]

I take it seriously

[pale sigil]

So obsessed he was told off by his doctor's

[crisp granite]

STOP

[solemn remnant]

lol

[crisp granite]

Yeah that happened

[solemn remnant]

okay this sounds interesting

[crisp granite]

irritated my intestines quite nicely, shitting mucus and blood for days

now I only eat one ghost pepper a week

[vagrant pagoda]

lol

[solemn remnant]

it's good to moderate stuff

well I had to call in sick after half a day today after I ate granola with oatmilk, super cramps, bloody diarrhea with some puking mixed in for hours

no ghost peppers there

[vagrant pagoda]

bro

is your stomach made of glass lol

[solemn remnant]

idk I might have IBS

I usually have the runs like 4 times a week at least, never had that much pain before thoo

almost, I took the sample bucket home but forgot about it

I'm kind of in the middle of something else right now, but I'll get it sorted eventually

they did a colonoscopy on me, nothing wrong there

yeah but they can't give a diagnosis just based on that, hence the need for a poopoo sample

eugh

btw the camera going up my ass was one of the most painful things I've experienced for some reason

weird since I sometimes like stuff going in there

[pale sigil]

I can tell you it isn't the most painful thing

[solemn remnant]

well it shouldn't be, but it sure felt like that

fentanyl didn't help either

[old marlin]

I fucking hate miui

the first one at 4:50 went off 20 minutes too soon btw

[crisp granite]

when you snooze it, swear a bit, and get back to bed

thank you LTT for shilling that tazer watch with an alarm setting

always quite the start to the day

[old marlin]

well it being too late by aggressively killing off every background task

[raw zephyr]

why does one need so many alarms?

[old marlin]

I just use 3

works best for me

and I just tend to not delete them

so I have like 20 alarms that are all inactive

[raw zephyr]

i got a schedule set inside the health app on my phone, i have it setup just in case, i usually wake up before the alarm goes off

[old marlin]

yea I just had to wake up earlier than usual today

I don't always need to wake up at 5am luckily

[raw zephyr]

god bless, i used to do that, now i moved to 1h later schedule

[old marlin]

nah like 3 alarms is perfect for me

I wake up quickly

but I benefit a lot from dozing those 10 minutes

[severe phoenix]

https://www.reddit.com/r/ultrawidemasterrace/comments/15zi5oy/you_cannot_run_g9_57_even_with_4090/

[old marlin]

well gl getting that amount of frames with any card anyways

[severe phoenix]

lol yeah

[solemn remnant]

hz != fps

[old marlin]

well yes

[mild dome]

I figure I'll wait for card tech to catchup before considering a G9 57"

[old marlin]

ngl I doubt you will get that in a current AAA title with highish settings even on a next gen TOTL card

even with DLSS 69

[raw zephyr]

magic

[old marlin]

yea I don't think it does

prob

more money than sense

[halcyon moss]

thats so weird

[cursive summit]

What exactly is a KVM?

Higher end monitors always advertise that feature

[reef patrol]

It's like an all in one hub. Two computers, one of everything else.

[halcyon willow]

4090>>>>

[old marlin]

big reason was also more of a switch to ipmi for everything

or ilo/idrac whatever you wanna call it

no need to ever enter the serverroom

but it is quite useful so you can hook up multiple computers

even if you can just do pbp, you have parallel desktop features with powertoys

[severe phoenix]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1104834999397658807/1144200286055964692/368193042_597628389210057_1232541010557331108_n.png

[halcyon moss]

fuck those noisy cold and hot spaces tbh

[old marlin]

hey two of mine are only actively hazardous

one has a danger of wastewater treament spillages that already killed multipler servers

the other one is in a room with a giant fuckoff transformer for production

thing has it's own cage and everything so you can't get too close

[shadow minnow]

Why is an old game running better on a totally different architecture through two translation layers than native lmao

It just won’t launch on an Intel iGPU but works through game porting toolkit on macOS

[halcyon moss]

So.. Not a huge difference?

[dire harbor]

@fair gull hey man, not sure if the right channel, after checking the date of delivery changes, does it deadass just check if it's later than midnight and then increase the delivery day by one? 😄 it seems to be ignoring weekends and everything haha

[cursive summit]

Pretty sure Tony didn't code that system

DarrelVS could tell you more

But even then I'm not sure if Darrel was responsible for that system specifically, even though he works on the web side afaik

[knotty summit]

[old marlin]

don't forget the warehouses, shipping networks and rates

[dire harbor]

it's pretty funny to me, not really a dig at anyone, but it's legit not really rocket science to implement a check if the date falls on a weekend 🙂

https://tenor.com/bKpQs.gif

[sharp badger]

https://www.arctic.de/en/P8-Max/ACFAN00286A Seems like Arctic released 80mm "Max" fans

[vagrant pagoda]

Amazon only has like a 50% success rate in my shipping estimates lol

[cursive summit]

https://videocardz.com/newz/msi-leaks-intel-14th-gen-core-specs-confirms-its-3-faster-on-average-than-13th-gen

I want to laugh

But that's just sad

[reef patrol]

[cursive summit]

At least 14700K seems properly improved

Isn't that 13700K still like 400$ at least?

Wouldn't buy it ever, 7800X3D go brrr

[halcyon moss]

we talked about graphing calcs earlier..
there is an opensource one apparently
https://www.numworks.com/

[old marlin]

I mean if you consider how much a 4090 costs that is ridiculous

[fickle ore]

XD

[warm lance]

Yeah this is a joke tbh, they should all be 2.0 or at least 2.1

[dire harbor]

cheaper MSRP than 7800x3d and 25% cca better performance

[dire harbor]

I love my server room, temps around 19 degrees, constant noise plugging out all human voices, peace and quiet since I am one of the few people allowed in there, ahhh

[frozen fog]

intel prepared for zen 5 or no? i wonder what will happen next year cause amd gonna have like 15% ipc boost

[astral haven]

ipc vs perf/clock are very very different

the current best ipc chip is the n300 and its fkn slow asf, the clock is slow and the lack of cache kills the perf/clock

[cursive summit]

You didn't respond to my messages 😦

[astral haven]

it messed up hardcore
it grok'd ipc vs clock speed

Bard understood it

[cursive summit]

If you refine a search, it doesn't give a concrete answer

https://www.perplexity.ai/search/9370eab0-69ca-4dd5-8516-3fd04df9f090?s=u

You can narrow down what results you want, I chose scholarly articles only

Although, using a jailbreak:

https://www.perplexity.ai/search/b5bc4684-a93d-402e-ba3f-73a20ad65e0a?s=u

TL;DR: performance per clock (IPC) takes precedence

[gusty kiln]

@prisma crag https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7fyrlzg_x9I

[astral haven]

ipc isnt performance per clock

[cursive summit]

Wrong chat

[gusty kiln]

Salamanders

[astral haven]

ipc is instructions per cycle

it assumes infinite cache bandwidth and memory bandwidth (which sure arent the responsibility of the core designer but its still important)

[grim pasture]

https://www.tomshardware.com/news/cherry-intros-mx2a-mechanical-switches-rated-for-100-million-actuations

[astral haven]

the 5800x3d exactly equals the 5800x in IPC

[astral haven]

this is why perf/clock is so much more important for gamers

[cursive summit]

Still worse than the lekker switch lol

[gusty kiln]

probably better stem wobble than lekkers

[cursive summit]

Lekker 2 can always be released as a hotswap for current lekkers with good improvements

For now there's no real reason to do so I suppose, until Wooting product stack is fully released

[crisp granite]

controversial opinion

[marsh glade]

*shit

[cursive summit]

*cowturd

[steep creek]

yah, they are not even close to being durable enough. need to almost frame it to keep it safe lol

[astral haven]

for most of us sure
but some people are happy with how it is

[steep creek]

yep i know someone who works from home. its fine for him

[astral haven]

most folks i saw with Flips in my previous job were women, who explained that normal phones dont fit in pockets

[crisp granite]

I would like to see you attempt to break a nokia 3310 in your regular use

[astral haven]

do you ever replace a phone before it has the chance to get broken tho?

[crisp granite]

those things are the phone of choice for jihad terrorists for a reason

[astral haven]

well then you are guaranteed to break your phone

some folks just upgrade phones when they can

[steep creek]

i just have a rugged case and screen protector on mine. case looks worn down but phone is flawless lol

[astral haven]

i have just a regular case, and a quick wipe makes it look flawless

[crisp granite]

...oh wtf

[steep creek]

yah that works too. just the rugged gives me more assurance when im outside and such

[crisp granite]

I just drop my phones all the time

[gusty kiln]

I've only seen the Astartes one, I've also watched a bit of the Angels of Death show

[crisp granite]

I think my SE3 has more airtime last year than I did

[astral haven]

i try to avoid dropping phones

[crisp granite]

might explain why my cousin is a little...um

yeah

[steep creek]

same but it happens once in a while, especially when im in a hurry

[crisp granite]

hehe butterfingers

[astral haven]

estimated 5 months before samsung releases s24 series :/

xperia pro-ii unknown

iphone 15 series not expected to have a supertelephoto

[gusty kiln]

https://www.reddit.com/r/headphones/comments/16063vl/sony_interactive_entertainment_to_acquire_audeze/

BRUH WTF

[cursive summit]

Ooo

Very interesting

What does that entail I wonder

Sony WH wired?

[astral haven]

sounds like you are unaware of the mdr-z1r and ier-z1r

[final flame]

it's "sony interactive entertainment", not the sony division known for audio

[cursive summit]

You are right

Wtf does SIE want from Audeze

[final flame]

probably has something to do with the maxwell

[cursive summit]

Yeah they'll prolly be hard-pushing now for gamer branded headphones

I hope there's still room for hi-fi

[final flame]

they better not mess with anything else, Audeze's quality has been good since they are mostly hand made in california

[grim pasture]

Audeze have some noisecancerling tech dont they

and the planar magnective drivers

[astral haven]

that would have been sony electronics

[final flame]

"noise cancelling tech" that's a general blanket term
all noise cancelling headphones rely on the same underlying technique to remove sound

[astral haven]

actually its probably for the DSP

audeze is known for making awful hardware with excellent dsp

[final flame]

eh not really

[astral haven]

am i confusing them with another company?

[final flame]

audeze doesn't even use dsp, they physically are unable to for their hifi headphones

[grim pasture]

https://www.claerity.ai/blog/real-time-noise-suppression-using-artificial-intelligence

maybe this tech

[final flame]

that's just noise suppression
we're talking about noise cancelling, they both work completely differently

not really, audeze is known for their planars but there are other companies making competent planars

Hifiman for example

[grim pasture]

thats how hyperx did it

[astral haven]

that part would be more up sony electronics aisle

[grim pasture]

they using audze drivers

[astral haven]

hyperx did nothing

hyperx uses takstar drivers

and no dsp

since when did they start using audeze drivers?

[final flame]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UyN1TACCbHE
this is the foundation on how anc works on headphones, by using a inverse phase signal you can effectively cancel noise

[grim pasture]

source: https://row.hyperx.com/products/hyperx-cloud-orbit-s?variant=40910060912845

[final flame]

hyperX didn't do anything, looks like they just made a deal with HyperX to include their drivers

[astral haven]

yea but thats a rebrand of an audeze product not a new product

[grim pasture]

I was responding to this..

or this

[astral haven]

at least the cloud 2s are a new chassis

[astral haven]

like that really looks like a rebrand of the penrose?

[dire harbor]

good headphones

[cursive summit]

They are good headphones

Although AKG hasn't totally went to shit after Samsung

[dire harbor]

afaik Sony has best ANC already?

[cursive summit]

So maybe Audeze will stay good as well

[astral haven]

bose still has the crown, just they dont put it in their consumer products

[grim pasture]

we were talking about patents and that if u wanted to use the planar magnetic driver you would have to go to audeze to get them.
I only showed an example that thats what hyperx did

[astral haven]

thats blatantly not true

[final flame]

planar magnetics are not owned by audeze

and never will be

[astral haven]

audeze has some special sauce, but its mostly dsp and tuning, and others have done tuning just fine

[grim pasture]

I was still only responding to what @prisma crag wrote about the patents

[dire harbor]

where do they use it?

[final flame]

There have been many audio companies that do planar drivers
Hifiman, 7hz, Moondrop, Meze, just to name a few

[astral haven]

the aviation headsets

[cursive summit]

Actually I'm not sure if they actually make their own

They prolly source them from the factories

Very few audio companies actually make the drivers

[astral haven]

takstar manufacturers planar drivers

[cursive summit]

Most of them are just sourced generic ones and tuned up

[astral haven]

and audeze used some (takstar units) in the distant past

[final flame]

audeze afaik doesn't make their drivers in house at their california location
they source them from whatever factory they have ties to

[astral haven]

are those even the official aviation units?
the ones ive seen are usually larger and sturdier looking

tho i suppose thats a small plane not a jet liner

hunh

yea i dont see them advertising a higher end unit

interesting

[astral haven]

yea but the units i remember didnt have bluetooth at all
definetly were old units tho

well no

just the high performance anc market

[grim pasture]

https://www.pushsquare.com/news/2023/08/playstation-reveals-new-official-headphones-and-earbuds-pulse-elite-and-pulse-explore

"Pulse Elite is an over-ear headset that offers "lossless audio", and comes with a built-in retractable microphone. It also boasts "AI-enhanced noise rejection", which aims to eliminate background noise from your voice channel. In the box with the headset comes a charging hanger, so you can store your headphones nicely and ensure they're always powered."

"Both devices use "custom-designed planar magnetic drivers", which we won't pretend to understand but appears to be a Good Thing. Apparently, the Pulse Explore earbuds will be one of the first sets to utilise this tech."

[final flame]

The buds probably sound shit knowing audeze's past for iems

[grim pasture]

"Both headsets will also take advantage of a new technology called PlayStation Link that brings low latency and lossless audio when used with the PS5 and new PlayStation Portal game streaming device."

[astral haven]

wonder if the playstation link usb dongle supports pcs?

[grim pasture]

Hopefully audeze gets an upgraded software/firmware department now, takes them months to push any updates for maxwell

[astral haven]

extreme doubt
my wf1000xm4 took a year and a half to get multipoint

[gusty kiln]

wish the maxwell wasn't so heavy, would be great for on the go use

[final flame]

The headphones are only $150 US, wonder how they sound considering that really low price

afaik the maxwell is already mass produced as with all of audezes non hifi stuff

[gusty kiln]

MM-100 out yet?

[final flame]

nah, still preorder on audezes site

[astral haven]

" Pulse Elite and Pulse Explore can simultaneously connect to a PlayStation Link supported device (PS5, PC, Mac, or PlayStation Portal) and a Bluetooth supported device"

PlayStation link USB dongle may be uac!

[final flame]

uac?

[astral haven]

USB audio class
Aka the standard usb

[final flame]

oh

[grim pasture]

https://static1.pocketlintimages.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2023/08/playstation-audio-products.jpg

its so ugly tho 😄

[final flame]

major alienware vibes

[astral haven]

Who cares if it sounds good 🤷
Especially for gaming

[grim pasture]

"PlayStation Link wireless audio technology uses a proprietary codec to transmit audio data over a wireless connection.

This codec is designed to minimize latency and ensure that the audio is delivered in lossless quality. The PlayStation Link wireless audio technology is compatible with both 2.4GHz and 5GHz Wi-Fi networks."

[astral haven]

Sure but wireless is nice

[grim pasture]

maybe they add the codec to maxwell xD

unless there is a hardware limitation

[final flame]

you can't add hardware functionality after the fact

you *may be able to depending on how the decoding is but that's unlikely as it seems this is only for 2.4ghz connections

not over bluetooth

[astral haven]

Maxwell already has dongle

How are we to know they aren't using the same codec under the hood?
Unless Maxwell dongle is just Bluetooth?

Remember many "2.4ghz" connections are just customized bluetooth

[final flame]

ffs

I need it for one thing

[astral haven]

what

[final flame]

making a ico file with all the different icons in it

[astral haven]

oh fun

[knotty summit]

for what?

[final flame]

ok that worked

[knotty summit]

Whats that

[final flame]

windows .ico files are what's used for icons on the os
they support having multiple files in them

[knotty summit]

Ah okay

What are you making the icons for?

[final flame]

Musicbee

[sharp badger]

The MM-100 have been delayed to September according to posts

[knotty summit]

You use musicbee to play music or?

[final flame]

yes

[astral haven]

sigh
hardware drm for the os? why

[fickle ore]

BRo why is AMD getting smashed

acquisition?

https://community.amd.com/t5/corporate/amd-acquires-mipsology-to-deepen-ai-inference-software/ba-p/626433

[astral haven]

whomst the heck is mispology

[fickle ore]

yep

[ashen spindle]

FPGA people

[astral haven]

rhetorical question quin

[ashen spindle]

had no clue until today either

[astral haven]

same but thats the problem
are they actually useful?

[ashen spindle]

depends for how much they got them

[astral haven]

fpgas dont have the capacity to run LLMs and thats the current big thing

oh god imagine a WSE scale FPGA dedicated to running LLMs

[ashen spindle]

idk if its for LLMs or just other projects that are solid, maybe not as hype bubbling but actually useful for more ares for years to come

[astral haven]

have you actually gone and downloaded one of the easy to run llama derivatives?

llama 13b chat 4 bit quantized is about as fast as me typing (when running) on a 3090 and is incredibly useful without fine tuning

even if its not transformers, llms are here to stay

[ashen spindle]

well yes it will be around but I still think its a bubble that needs to come down where other areas might not explode but dont need to come down in 1-2 years

[astral haven]

🤷 i dont really care about the finances of the companies currently involved
im just looking forward to the future
where we are now for llms is the token ring era of the "internet"

[ashen spindle]

well the current companies care about finances and make acquisitions based on them xD

[astral haven]

sure but i wanna see progress on hardware
if we can get a chip that runs 10b+ parameter llms at a million tokens per second rather than 20, that would be huge progress

[ashen spindle]

wait for mi300 numbers then if that shows progress

[astral haven]

not possible

current bottleneck (for inference) is memory bandwidth

[ashen spindle]

idk if that meets your numbers I just meant wait for its numbers to see progress in general

[sharp badger]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wHBR5nWIhAs Christian talking about the Gemera

[frozen ingot]

ge mig mera

[sharp badger]

Japp

[astral haven]

again tho i wanna see the dedicated hardware like we got for image processing (ISPs not gpus)

PIM tech may help a ton with that

[cursive summit]

https://www.phoronix.com/news/AMD-Acquires-Mipsology

[astral haven]

yea vex thats what the half of us not talking about cars were talking about

[floral meteor]

yo

is the remap feature the same as a macro like could i have 2 o's or 2 u's

[shadow minnow]

I accidentally overclocked my fan once a bit, luckily didn’t break

Just about 20%

[thick elk]

Running motors at higher voltages is nothing new, and has been done for a long time.

It just isn't the most sane thing to do most of the time.

[knotty summit]

yes

[final flame]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1gWZRnRd4j8

@gusty kiln

[gusty kiln]

Just watched it

[wheat plume]

Oooo another neat feature

You can stream audio to the Pixel Tablet when it's docked now by holding a phone close to it

[astral haven]

its a shame its not using standard chromecast

google should just make it possible for any android with google play to act as a chromecast receiver

[misty saffron]

never understood why you couldn’t stream sound to any of your apple devices either

[astral haven]

yup 😦

[misty saffron]

pretty sure you can select apple tv here, but that’s it

tablets? macs?

[astral haven]

windows supports bluetooth a2dp but i havent seen it on android natively
samsung has their fancy pants local sound streaming

but yea a2dp receiver on the windows store, allows you to pick any bluetooth device you have paired to your pc and try to connect to it as an audio receiver
used it with my work pc to connect my phone and have my audio come through my work headset

[misty saffron]

that’s interesting, gonna have to try

playing music from phone seems a bit more convenient

[astral haven]

yee
when working at home I have my audio system, but at work it wasnt ez

eventually i acquired enough monitors to throw music on a 5th screen, but until then i used this app

its not a smooth experience, but it works

[misty saffron]

just not very convenient for me to alt-tab from fullscreen games to change songs

takes a bit too long

[wheat plume]

Android supports streaming audio to any other smart device that can play audio

[astral haven]

not to proprietary smart devices
or original chromecasts
or android tv boxes

most of those require specific app support

[wheat plume]

Fucking finally....
This is a feature I am extremely jealous of Spotify for
https://9to5google.com/2023/08/24/youtube-music-live-lyrics/

[misty saffron]

that is definitely one of the videos

[old marlin]

or like any other streaming service?

[wheat plume]

Apple music and Amazon and Deezer and Tidal and shit have real time lyrics??

bandcamp doesnt, or SoundCloud

[old marlin]

deezer and tidal do

dunno about apple music or amazon

[raw zephyr]

iirc ios 17 will have lyrics on the lockscreen for apple music, no idea why would anyone want that

[old marlin]

in tidal

deezer has it similar

[raw zephyr]

i dunno i just use spotify, i notice minimal difference flac vs 320kbps mp3

[old marlin]

tidal costs ~10% more and artists don't get completely shat on

[cursive summit]

https://videocardz.com/newz/amd-fidelityfx-super-resolution-3-fsr3-is-coming-soon-to-forspoken-and-immortals-of-aveum hmm

[old marlin]

a tidal view is like 2.5 times the revenue (with 2018 numbers)

[cursive summit]

I wonder what the benchmarks for FSR3 will be

[old marlin]

I know the spotify number has not changed

[cursive summit]

I highly doubt they will compete with DLSS3 let alone with NV getting ahead with 3.5

[old marlin]

and have not heard about the tidal number changing

and spotify has supported those rates getting absolutely shit for smaller artists

by not calling out larger artists when they make people farm listens while sleeping

while doing so for smaller artists

[cursive summit]

It would be absolutely amazing if FSR3 somehow becomes a tech that is so damn good that even Nvidia will scurry to match it with DLSS 3.5.1

Cause AMD engineers somehow got a stroke of genius

[fair gull]

last i heard yt is around 0.008 or 0.009 nowadays

[old marlin]

so still more than twice as good

[fair gull]

ofc most of that is all from just usually some smaller artist calculating numbers

dont think google publishes it

[old marlin]

ye

not 100% accurate

[fair gull]

at least for services where anyone and their mum can sign up

something like tidal is not riddled with random artists usually

[old marlin]

have not missed much personally

outside dj sets

those re typically youtube only

and maybe soundcloud

[pale sigil]

Maybe not but at least you don't need a fucking 40 series card

[wheat plume]

Xbox Music is a thing still????

[old marlin]

2018 data

[pale sigil]

MS tried to get into music 3 times I think

[wheat plume]

oohhhhh

[halcyon moss]

befre it was groove music

[random marten]

Does such a thing as a hard surface control mousepad exist?

(except glass)

[grim pasture]

Maybe very few

Cerapad Kin is one i think

[old marlin]

there are a few older ones that I cann't recommend

cerapad kin could be good tho

[solemn remnant]

func 1030 rough surface

[old marlin]

the original corepad

[grim pasture]

U can also try corepad control skatez

[old marlin]

won't do much

[grim pasture]

i never used the kin pad or the control skates

[old marlin]

would prob be faster on most pads

[grim pasture]

So no idea how they perform

[old marlin]

even if you use something like HDPE skates

which would last longer on hard pads

[grim pasture]

X-raypad Thunder9 is a control pad too i think?

[old marlin]

plastic pads suck

durability wise

[weak whale]

new desk looking cold

[knotty summit]

Magnus desk worth it?

[alpine prairie]

hello I have a problem with key shortcuts, for example if I press ctrl+r with the old keyboard I opened the mode to control the speed of the video in davinci resolve mind now with 60h and if I press this key combination nothing happens, I have to set it I manually somehow?

[vagrant pagoda]

That dosent sound right. If you do the shortcut with on screen keyboard, dose it work

[alpine prairie]

I also checked in the software that it actually has ctrl on that key and everything seems correct, but nothing the key combination no longer opens the video speed control

[weak whale]

yea, built solid. just mounted my pc to the table leg. looks mint.

[vagrant pagoda]

I put my PC on a shelf above my desk lol

[pale sigil]

If you want to mount stuff no

Oh wait magnus is not Ikea

[reef patrol]

Disregard gamer desks, acquire used office desks with motors.

Much cheaper and better built.

100$ for one that'll outlast your PC

[cursive summit]

Not sure why standing/sitting desks are the new big thing

Why wouldn't you sit

[steep creek]

sometimes i like to stand up, but then i might as well go walk a bit lol

[astral haven]

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8582919/

[reef patrol]

The flexibility is great.

I often stand up for a couple of hours while answering emails.

[cursive summit]

Eh fair enough

[reef patrol]

And typically having a motor means the structure and tabletop are quality. Since they have to follow spec for more weight

[cursive summit]

I just can't imagine having to plug in one more thing into the extension power cables

[reef patrol]

Instead of those cardboard mix tabletops you often see.

[cursive summit]

There's like 2 x5 extension cables near my desk and they have 9 slots occupied ffs

[reef patrol]

Mine has a cable duct in the I beam going across the table connecting the legs.

[astral haven]

many have built in power strips, the entire table moves up and down so you cant really have the power cables hanging off

[reef patrol]

So simply having some cables with some length and flex means I don't have to worry about issues there. The Desktop is on the tabletop, so everything connected follows the motion.

[cursive summit]

Tbf I also am rather wary for the price of adjustable desks

Good ones are easily well over 300$

[reef patrol]

That's why I specifically mention the used market.

[cursive summit]

Normal standing desk, or a corner one? I got mine for 30$ or so

[astral haven]

used high quality > new low quality

[cursive summit]

I get the advantages but I like my corner desk

[reef patrol]

Both of* my used desks were obsoleted by offices doing spring cleaning for new models.

And I spent about 100$ on each.

[cursive summit]

What kind of offices would even buy these kind of desks

Quite a luxury workplace

[reef patrol]

Most of them?

Around here they are the norm due to various workplace health regulations and such.

[astral haven]

even the most callous of workplaces have them, they increase productivity

[reef patrol]

Top right example is very common in banks and office spaces.

That desk is 47€ btw.

Motor and everything

[cursive summit]

Seems in my city there's a whole of.. 2 offers both 200€ and above

Then again unless there are corner automatic desks, I am not interested

I love my corner desk, so much more space than traditional ones

[reef patrol]

Those exist though leas common.

GF's is a corner desk we shortened into an rectangle.

[cursive summit]

Literally downgrading lol

[reef patrol]

It was way too big for her.

[cursive summit]

Tbf my "corner desk" is a megabudget solution that some company did by combining 2 normal desks, and slapping on a screwed on slanted part as the connector for the 2

I mean, it works

Was like 30€

Not the prettiest thing

[astral haven]

there are digital watches that arent smart 😛

and i like that my watch rings whenever i get too stressed and I can meditate for a bit

aint gonna get a heartrate monitor in an analog watch

ye

https://www.garmin.com/en-US/p/662790/pn/010-02238-00

[raw zephyr]

normalize double wristing watches

[astral haven]

privacy concerns arent a problem if you just use it as a watch + real time heart rate monitor

just dont use the long term tracking features

[severe phoenix]

https://www.eurogamer.net/digitalfoundry-2023-amd-reveals-long-awaited-fsr-3-tech-and-frame-gen-for-every-dx11dx12-game

[sharp badger]

https://www.withings.com/fi/en/watches Here's another hybrid

[raw zephyr]

i wear my gshock on the left, apple watch on right which has theater mode enabled and every possible notification other than very urgent ones disabled

you look like a nerd, but it’s best of both worlds

i was looking into smart rings, but the prices are absurd and it barely does anything

[steep creek]

for me its just really nice. my next class room number and time pops up on it, really nice instead of having to pull up my phone. just these little things along with fitness tracking and calling etc ahah

[astral haven]

you are aware that there are self contained smartwatches?

where you dont need to connect them to your phone

they just track their things on their own

store data internally

yes

all of those issues are addressed by not connecting them to a phone

[raw zephyr]

”feeling always connected” you might as well leave your phone at home and use it as a landline

[sharp badger]

Having to charge it every night? The one I have last a week with activities? But yeah fair points 😄

[steep creek]

lol i like it. considered the same while ago but ended up just going with one

[coarse cloak]

peace

[astral haven]

yea mine lasts 2 weeks after using it for 2 years just about?

[raw zephyr]

but yeah fair points, it’s not for everyone

[steep creek]

no issue, people like different things

[raw zephyr]

my apple watch se lasts me 2 days, but i charge it every night because i use it as a nightstand clock

[astral haven]

and i wear my watch while sleeping

[sharp badger]

Same

[steep creek]

mine lasts 2 to 3 ish but its on basically all the time except when sleeping and showering

[astral haven]

its a different use case

[steep creek]

yah depends how you use it i suppose

[astral haven]

its a real shame that the smartwatch has been publicized as a device that connects to a phone

imo its a phone extension, not actually a smartwatch

it should be self contained to be considered smart

but thats not what society has decided :/

[steep creek]

i mean yes, but in reality it can be very independent, for example with an esim

[astral haven]

sorta

not the apple watch

[steep creek]

i can leave my phone at home and the watch will be just fine for my use cases

[astral haven]

the apple watch is a brick if you dont own an iphone

the garmin watches are fully featured

[ashen spindle]

https://gpuopen.com/fsr3-announce/

[steep creek]

it handles calling, messaging, tracking, and my callendar personally its enough for me

[astral haven]

sure but my phone does that

[steep creek]

but of course my iphone needs to connect to it at some point

[gusty kiln]

https://tenor.com/view/old-boomer-history-84years-many-years-ago-gif-18534104

[steep creek]

but im mainly talking about bringing only the watch when out running or walking

otherwise im fine with the phone too

[astral haven]

ye
and the devices that can do that without connecting to a phone ever are smarter

[steep creek]

yeah they are nice

[astral haven]

the garmins you can wire up to the computer to a program, you can sync over wifi direct to a website on top of connecting to a phone

[steep creek]

yah ill say this, if i was more into extreme sports and away for a longer period, garmin beats apple

[astral haven]

the problem is the apple is a brick without the iphone

[steep creek]

i mean most apple devices are somewhat limited without the ecosystem lol

[astral haven]

and the iphone is a very limiting device by design

[steep creek]

but i suppose if you like their devices, its okay

airpods is also quite limited on non apple devices

[astral haven]

"i mean most apple devices are... limited..."
Corrected

[steep creek]

imo depends on the use cases, like if you are just doing web browsing, doesnt really matter that you cant sideload apps or whatever lol

[astral haven]

the idevices rely on you changing your habits to the way that apple invisions you doing things

[astral haven]

banning sideloading is just a symptom

[raw zephyr]

you took unabomber manifesto too seriously /s

[steep creek]

Personally I like them, they’re simple and do what I need. But yeah I get that Apple doesn’t fit for all

[astral haven]

sure

my problem is the ethos of the devices themselves

its an extremely authoritarian ethos

"my way or the highway"

[steep creek]

Oh yeah just to name repair ability for example, they’re no good

[astral haven]

again tho just a symptom

[steep creek]

Yea I think it’s just, they want to design everything their way

[astral haven]

thats the underlying issue imo

[steep creek]

So the byproduct would be just accept whatever they decide

[astral haven]

yep
and thats extremely antihuman imo

what happened to this company https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VtvjbmoDx-I

[steep creek]

I’ll watch it in a bit, brb

[astral haven]

you dont know the 1984 commercial???

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=INCSBwpJBQk

[steep creek]

Lol I know about it. It’s just I’m with people right now so I can’t watch it on loudspeaker

[astral haven]

you dont have to watch it again but its the sentiment

[flat thistle]

is there a setting for the wooting that deactivates a button at a certain actuationpoint when pressed down ?

[astral haven]

DKS for example

[steep creek]

Yah I get the point of it. But I’m curious to know what do you think of some companies also following Apple by not including the charge brick, 3.5 and sd card slot so on

[astral haven]

removing features isnt breaking out of the norms...

https://www.gsmarena.com/sony_xperia_1_v-12263.php
also this is what i think of that

[steep creek]

Personally I think the added revenue for them out-weights anything else lol

Yea I really like Sony for that

I’d move to Sony if I were to choose from an android phone

[astral haven]

yep
there are different options tho
i refuse to downgrade from my supertelephoto that is ostensibly superhuman

real sad bc sony could do it, they just chose not to to keep the overall quality up

[steep creek]

Are they not on par with others quality wide? Mkbhd’s reviews on their phones seem pretty positive

Haven’t had a chance to test them really myself

[astral haven]

oh they are on par, but i use the 20-100x zoom on my phone a ton

and only samsung and huawei have even resonable quality at that distance

wait no xiaomi not huawei

[steep creek]

oh i see

yeah telephoto can be nice for stuff

especially when i am at the far back of the lecture hall

[astral haven]

i dont wanna have to compromise

and i very much imagine that the xperia pro-ii is gonna have a 3x-9x optical zoom
if they dont, i wont get it simple as that

[steep creek]

makes sense if you value the zoom

[astral haven]

yup, now that i have it its beyond great, i dont wanna go back

[steep creek]

have to go, nice talking to you

[astral haven]

👍 have fun

[steep creek]

you too

[cursive summit]

https://twitter.com/amdradeon/status/1695091014162112525

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Funny, I knew 7800XT will be 499$

Wasn't sure their product stack even needed a 7700XT

[astral haven]

what

[cursive summit]

Now, question remains, will they obsolete the GRE, or will the GRE obsolete the 7800XT

And 7700XT will be the "value option"

[astral haven]

the gre is a china only model

[cursive summit]

Cause there's really no space performance wise between GRE and things like 6800XT at this price point for it to be 499$ and still be considered a good option

[astral haven]

it wasnt supposed to exist in the west

[cursive summit]

Either it matches or beats GRE, or is just meh

[astral haven]

ignore the gre its not for your market

[crimson wigeon]

Why do you talk so much about the GRE?

[astral haven]

a west release and pricing are not intentional

[cursive summit]

Cause it's a product in the product stack?

649$, where 6800XT was

[astral haven]

its not in the product stack

its a china only model

[crimson wigeon]

Yeah, if it can't easily be found it might as well not exist here

[astral haven]

the gre is made to avoid sanctions

[cursive summit]

What, the GRE?

Well I can't find individual models but the prebuilts with GRE are pretty compelling value

[astral haven]

its as big a gpu as they can sell without hitting legal gpu limits

[cursive summit]

Some GRE's on aliexpress but meh

[astral haven]

vex

smh

amd did not release the gre for your market

its not part of the product stack

[cursive summit]

On semiconductor news, LK-99 is back to the newsfront for some reason

Seems they are doubling down that there is evidence is it superconducting

[astral haven]

Starfield is not $33, its $33 worth of turkish lira while in turkey
for example

[cursive summit]

We'll see how the original samples are peer reviewed

maybe they had something there

[astral haven]

theres no evidence that it is superconducting

[cursive summit]

https://www.theverge.com/2023/8/25/22372077/amd-starfield-dlss-fsr-exclusive-frank-azor

Ngl Frank, you have lied plenty before, not sure if I should trust you

But eh I haven't looked into the topic much and Quintosh seems to agree that AMD isn't forcing anyone into exclusivity, so fair enough

[crimson wigeon]

Tbh kinda surprised the FSR3 announcements have nothing to say about Starfield

[cursive summit]

Did they give us any dates on 7800XT reviews?

Watched a GN breakdown on slideshow specs but didn't hear anything on them getting cards

[astral haven]

its very unlikely that amd is forcing anyone
but nvidia wasnt "forcing" anyone to be in their bs gpu program it was just wink wink nudge nudge

[flat thistle]

thx very much got it now

[astral haven]

also "nothing stopping them" doesnt mean that amd isnt providing monetary or support incentives if they dont
they could to it, but it would have a downside for them without azor having to lie

not saying this is happening, but you cant trust it to not be happening

[cursive summit]

Same with 30 to 40 series tbf

Other than 4090, which is just a "maxi-card"

[astral haven]

keep in mind its a fused off china edition

they very well could have fused off features like nvidia did with the a800

[ashen spindle]

It’s also a bit weird of a conclusion saying it’s little evolution of a functioning vs a broken product

[astral haven]

the a800 on paper is an a100 but it has features and clock speeds cut down just enough to comply with the restrictions

[cursive summit]

Ah they are finally launching the all-in-one switch

September 6th

I guess they closely tied it to FSR3 to work better together

[ashen spindle]

Wonder what anti lag+ is

[cursive summit]

I hope it's more than just a switch and there's more to it

[ashen spindle]

Anti lag we know

[cursive summit]

Same thing as Nvidia's new reflex?

[astral haven]

hdr 🤷

[cursive summit]

What's even the hype on HDR10+?

[astral haven]

doesnt have licensing costs

its also able to enable itself apparently but i dont buy that

[cursive summit]

So, I understand the HDR10(+) vs Dolby Vision comparison in movies

Why would I need that in games?

[astral haven]

if theres an advantage in movies why wouldnt there be an advantage in games?

[cursive summit]

But they have nothing in common?

[astral haven]

what

i dont think you get it at all

[cursive summit]

What, will we HDR the cutscenes?

I mean, sure, why not

[astral haven]

no
the entire everything

bright objects will be bright and dim objects will be dim

torches. flames, flashlights, the sun

shadow detail

[crimson wigeon]

Imagine getting flashbanged in a game and it actually making you blind because SO BRIGHT

[cursive summit]

Ahh I got it completely wrong

HDR10 seems to be a colour spec of sorts

[astral haven]

thats not an hdr thing thats just monitors being bright

[cursive summit]

Kinda like sRGB I am guessing?

[astral haven]

thats missing the point

[cursive summit]

I thought it was limited to motion picture like movies only

[crimson wigeon]

Yeah but with proper HDR there's a decent contrast ratio so it'll be that much more intense, no?

[astral haven]

actually thats not true

[cursive summit]

... right

But is this a panel tech or game tech or GPU tech?

[astral haven]

HDR started in movies

[cursive summit]

Where does the HDR10 spec lie

[astral haven]

its an image tech

its a method of storing data