🔌│tech

[hardy idol]

From the deleted reddit post
https://www.reddit.com/r/pcmasterrace/comments/15skcc9/continuation_of_madisons_thread_about_working_at/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=android_app&utm_name=androidcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=1

[final flame]

twitlonger exists

[neat oriole]

I guess she’s more of a tik tok user

[fair gull]

you know the tweet is still up right

why are we getting linked images

https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1691693740254228741.html

its been unrolled countless of times into threadreader

[reef patrol]

It also still isn't deleted

I can read it just fine.

[fair gull]

well the initial post is

the comments arent

[wheat plume]

Thanks AI....

Plasma desktop has to remove the Usplash Photo Of The Day wallpaper plugin because of ToS changes

[fair gull]

https://tenor.com/view/oh-no-top-gear-jeremy-clarkson-no-one-cares-gif-18925814

[final flame]

Personally I don't believe her
if the claims are true there should definitely be more female employees speaking out right now
once one speaks out that breaks the dam and starts the flood

[vagrant pagoda]

Steve takes every blacklist as a badge of honor.

[frozen ingot]

yeah its very popular and tempting to shit on someone already under scrutiny

[vagrant pagoda]

GN can do what they do without the support of hardware manufacturers

[frozen ingot]

if true its horrible, but I'd like quite a lot more evidence presented

[vagrant pagoda]

There were 2 previously

But they got shit on and deleted it all

You forget how fucking toxic ltts fan base is

They drove the play button kid to suicide

[frozen ingot]

that's all fanbases once it reaches critical mass

[shadow minnow]

Hmm hydrogen bus haven’t seen one of those before

[pale sigil]

I saw that but it was never really verified irrc

[vagrant pagoda]

Even as bad as they are I don't think Linus would have posted a response without verifying that it was true

Because at the end of the day Linus was the one that decided not to buy it from him

The kid offered to sell it but he decided not to buy it

But the biggest take away from this is individuals and small companys should have zero trust in ltt as a company

Consumers should have no trust because he admitted the accuracy of their results were not worth 500 bucks and possibly a video delay

[marsh glade]

https://tenor.com/view/thanks-steve-intel-gamers-nexus-thanks-steve-gif-2570818544130153718

https://tenor.com/view/back-to-you-steve-steve-back-to-you-intel-gif-23042466

[fading cloud]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0cTpTMl8kFY
didnt he say they wont comment on it?

[vagrant pagoda]

In that one statement he destroyed all the trust in labs

[vagrant pagoda]

Hour late fam

[fading cloud]

played cs go

[vagrant pagoda]

Because why spend a million bucks on equipment if $500 bucks is too much

Or even just not spending money and following the instructions that were sent with the product lol

[crimson wigeon]

Because that's 500 bucks that could have gone to getting another video out

[vagrant pagoda]

Or have writers who actually know what their topic is covering things

[mild dome]

I haven't watched the vid, but did they outright state they were blacklisting GN?
I mean I believe it's likely they would, but I was just wondering if that's confirmed

[vagrant pagoda]

Line is seem pretty hard that Steve didn't call him first

And to be fair to Steve that has to be just as hurtful to him that Linus would think he would do that

Steve would write the same story about his own mother without calling her, if he thought it was good for consumers

[mild dome]

I know a lot of people squaked with Linus saying GN should have called him first, but GN really shouldn't have. Given Linus' first response I can't help but think Linus would have gone on the attack first had GN alerted him.
Besdies Linus was called out on WAN show by his fans and he shut them down soo
Didn't Linus say he should be called out for doing the bad things too?

[dreamy zenith]

That's not an apology

[mild dome]

Linus really should learn a thing or two from Steve, hopefully he does

[frozen ingot]

linus says a lot of things

[mild dome]

Like this segue, to his sponsor

[frozen ingot]

he at least had the self awareness to step down from CEO position

[thick elk]

Linus really needs to swallow his ego, the rest of the team mostly did quite well in that video but man, here he was way too much on the defensive.

[mild dome]

Man probably protect LMG with more ferocity then his own kids

[thick elk]

He mostly protects his own ego here

[vagrant pagoda]

Yeah the only reason he cares about ltt reputation is he is the namesake it seems lil

[dreamy zenith]

But Dbrand did offer

[fading cloud]

I am pretty sure in the follow up video from linus ("What do we do now?") Some are reading a script
Which okay is fine, but isnt kind of a free talk id imagine theyd do.
I mean yeah it is a tough topic, and I cant really talk infront of a camera, especially where millions are gonna see it.
I am at the 15min mark

[final flame]

it's fairly well known they have a teleprompter

[fading cloud]

yeah

but i mean okay

so they dont talk shit

[dreamy zenith]

Yeah but you can still talk s*x joke in front of camera which is kool

[fading cloud]

wait, didnt steve said, that they redacted the price of prototype because billit lab wanted it?
And linus shows the price? hm

[dreamy zenith]

publicized indeed lul

[fading cloud]

GG to ltt

okay we dont really know if billet labs told ltt to censor it

[vagrant pagoda]

I thought they said that in their Reddit post

[dreamy zenith]

In Nexus' video billet seems don't want the price goes public but who knows what did they talked to LTT so whatever not really a point

[fading cloud]

what kind of reddit post

[vagrant pagoda]

Billet labs

[fading cloud]

ah yeah okay

[vagrant pagoda]

They have made like 3 statements on reddit

Also idk if it's just a YouTube issue, but every comment thread about Madison 403's

[fading cloud]

okay yeah havent seen it yet, so i cant really participate in the discussion anymore

because thats dumb to discuss stuff, with only knwoing 50%

[dreamy zenith]

Did Nexus' video quote those, I'm kinda forgot.

[fading cloud]

not that i know off

in the weekly news atleast

[dreamy zenith]

If those charges are real then it will be a true GG for LTT lul, the topic starts deviate from "tech" so i think just stop there

[final flame]

Heh 60he cable

[gusty kiln]

Man I really want the organic but it's always a gamble with hifiman

[pale sigil]

403s?

[final flame]

overall id say if you're going to get the organic, get it off of headphones.com

that way you get their good service

or amazon if they have it

[severe phoenix]

Or don't throw money away at HiFiman

[final flame]

there aren't many options at the kilobuck mark

[gusty kiln]

Hifiman offers one of the best price to performance in the hobby

Just their qa/qc is a bit shoddy

[final flame]

only other thing that can compete against the arya organic is the focal clear

[gusty kiln]

Yah the clears are also on my list, but I also really want a large sound stage

https://i.imgur.com/rkuLEsx.jpg

[final flame]

saving up for a 800s is also a option, and senns qc is known to be great

[astral haven]

800s don't sound that good...

And at least for me they were wildly uncomfortable

[gusty kiln]

Lack of bass is almost a non starter

[astral haven]

Wouldn't worry about that

[old marlin]

man I really want another set of philphones

for some reasons the one I have are mono

and idk how

[astral haven]

I likey da bass and that wasn't really the issue with the sound for me, it's was more that some songs just didn't sound great

[final flame]

could be the mastering of those songs being the issue

[gusty kiln]

Yeah a common criticism is that they sound unnatural on some songs

[mild dome]

If you have the amp, in theory you can get a seperate subwolfer.

[vagrant pagoda]

403 error

[pale sigil]

They are still up for me tho

[final flame]

I'll be honest a lot of shit on my clears don't sound good
but the mastering on those songs are shit so I known it isn't the headphones fault
just magnifying the faults of the master

[mild dome]

The 800s is one of the best gaming headphones tho

[final flame]

who tf cares about gaming performance

[gusty kiln]

Kek

[mild dome]

people with money to burn

[gusty kiln]

I use to game fine with wired apple earpods

[gusty kiln]

Have you manage to clip them yet?

[final flame]

clip them?

[gusty kiln]

Think resolve said 107db at 1khz

[final flame]

oh that 1k hump
personally I don't care about it too much

[astral haven]

Thats a 60 IQ take lel
if it sounds fantastic on 660s and hurts to listen to on 800s, the 660s is a superior headphone

[gusty kiln]

Focal are known to clip/ bottom out the driver at certain volume

[final flame]

well I doubt I'd be hitting 107db anytime soon
I'm not that deaf

[gusty kiln]

I think its only an issue if you eq the bass

[final flame]

when you listen to weeb stuff I listen to then you'll understand

japanese mastering is quirky

[gusty kiln]

How would you compare the bass to the 650/6xx

[astral haven]

It shouldn't matter?

[severe phoenix]

https://youtube.com/clip/Ugkx3sIOusgEkZS902vaewSTlNQaNX11bLgo

[final flame]

mastering quality makes the 2nd most difference after the headphone itself, of course it matters

[gusty kiln]

Why repost

[astral haven]

Eh, like I didn't notice anything wrong, it was fine

[astral haven]

Sibilance is un good
One of my most basic tests is a set of songs that I've played on most of my audio devices, if any of them sound shouty they fail that test

[gusty kiln]

Yeah I have notice 3 different masters of chicago ii on qobuz and one sounds noticeably different and subjectively good

[gusty kiln]

Yeah that 6khz peak is a killer on the 800s

[final flame]

can easily be fixed tho

[astral haven]

Here's a selection of what I listened to

[final flame]

easier to remove frequencies, than to add them

[gusty kiln]

Bubbles must have been an experience on the 800s

[final flame]

yea I don't notice anything at my usual volume level

even on a bass heavy lofi track

[cursive summit]

Seems I indoctrinated my sister into the Apple cult

[final flame]

I would test the volume level if I had a db meter

[cursive summit]

Sis needs to replace her barely functioning 2015 gaming laptop

And budget laptops are rather shite

[final flame]

about little less than half volume on the magni 3 non heresy with low gain

[cursive summit]

So we had the idea to go take a look at Apple offerings

I think she'll end up buying the Mac mini M2 Pro for about 1300

Ngl, I kinda liked the mac mini

[final flame]

mac mini is aight, I just don't like the OS

[hasty thunder]

i don't like Apple in general. Ripping off customers, lying, overpriced shit, fucking with consumer rights, etc.

[cursive summit]

Well my sis does art stuff

So it seems up her valley

The thing is Apple's pricing strategy is incredibly weird

The entry level offerings are really good and rather affordable

If you want anything better than that the value instantly skydives into nothing

[final flame]

I will always prefer windows for design work
the mac keyboard and shortcut system makes my want to kms

not to mention the apple hand holding for everything

[hasty thunder]

back when i accidentally broke the display of my S22U i paid 230€ to get it repaired by an authorized and trusted repair shop and my data wasn't wiped, nor did it require an entirely new logic board. They put in a new display, did the testing and sent it back to me

[cursive summit]

Hmm https://www.zdnet.com/article/microsoft-finally-authorizes-windows-11-on-apple-m1-and-m2-macs/

So you don't even have to stick with MacOS

[final flame]

thought they killed off bootcamp

parently not

[steep creek]

this is in parallels though. i would prefer it running without a vm personally

[final flame]

this is more funny lol

[steep creek]

lol

[cursive summit]

Ah yeah all the macs in the iDeal store had office pre-installed

I was rather surprised but honestly

Office is the best

[hasty thunder]

literally the first thing i did with my PC and Win 10: FUCK OFF, Edge!

[final flame]

I know a few people who enjoy edge

[chrome estuary]

Edge is just a worse chromium

[final flame]

it's not a bad browser since they swapped to chromium, but I personally don't like it

[hasty thunder]

SHOOT 'EM!

right between the eyes

[final flame]

I overall prefer either brave or librewolf or degoogled chrome

[steep creek]

ahah nice, for now im back on ios 16 because the battery drain was unbearable for me on the beta 😁

[hasty thunder]

Edge is nothing more than a modernized IE, change my mind

[final flame]

well... it is..

was supposed to be replacing ie for good

[thick elk]

Edge nowadays is just a chrome reskin with some microsoft stuff

[final flame]

and that includes the backend that ie used to do

[reef patrol]

Some day...

[final flame]

lol, I opened up IE, it forcefully closed IE and opened up edge

[hasty thunder]

@reef patrol When does your vacation end?

[steep creek]

i think he said next week

[reef patrol]

Monday. Back to work as best I can. It'll be a slow start with trying to unpack an apartment and get my home office set up fully.

[hasty thunder]

You know, history always repeats itself, so my apologies in advance if i'm invading the Netherlands, because my 60HE isn't packed

[final flame]

[hasty thunder]

[final flame]

ww4 incoming

[pale sigil]

4?

When was 3

[hasty thunder]

i'm wondering too

besides, it would be a funny headline: German woman with russian and japanese roots invading Netherlands

oh wait, shit... I'm predestined to provoke and start wars

[final flame]

https://tenor.com/view/started-blasting-gun-eyeglasses-so-anyway-i-started-blasting-gif-16955226

[astral haven]

samsung spent the time to engineer a repair mode for their oneui5 phones lel

[hasty thunder]

https://mashable.com/article/discord-io-data-breach

[cursive summit]

Lads man

Ctrl + f before you post

[final flame]

talked about it earlier
that's not discord
that's just a vanity url service

[reef patrol]

I don't know anyone who uses it. Wonder how popular it is.

[hasty thunder]

ik it's just a custom link creation website

[reef patrol]

Or was I suppose

[hasty thunder]

popular enough to be worth hacking i guess. 760k users were affected after all

[reef patrol]

True.

[crimson wigeon]

YEah people want their vanity URLs without paying the blood money

[reef patrol]

Ahh that's the attraction.

Never have those much thought

[pale sigil]

Rip me?

I used it for wooting in the past

[final flame]

[pale sigil]

discord.io/wooting

[hasty thunder]

rip you then, because the leak contains things like your API Key

and user key

[final flame]

well if pleasant goes rogue we know why

[hasty thunder]

@reef patrol prepare the ban hammer again for @pale sigil

[reef patrol]

[hasty thunder]

just in case, yk

[pale sigil]

I was the one who held the ban hammer at the time I'll have you know

Either way I'm fine it seems

The email used is leaked on everything regardless

Stopped using it a long time ago

[final flame]

New KZ Drama lessgoo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SjQTwS6VSHg

[hasty thunder]

and i was literally the ban hammer wielder on several bigger nsfw servers. So what now?

[pale sigil]

What, nah I meant saying mansen to wield it against me xd

I was jokingly saying I passed it over to mansen

[hasty thunder]

and yet he yeeted yo ass just 2 months after you've created your acc

[reef patrol]

This is feeling like a Mexican standoff.

[hasty thunder]

[pale sigil]

Huh

2 months after I created my account was the creation of this server.

[hasty thunder]

nvm

[pale sigil]

Haha sorry, guess I'm confused.

[reef patrol]

But are you on the top secret business Wooting Discord, huh? Huh?

[hasty thunder]

lel

[pale sigil]

Are you in the top secret beta discord

[hasty thunder]

Now we know there's a secret business server. Time to hack Mansen

[reef patrol]

[hasty thunder]

https://tenor.com/view/anime-computer-girl-typing-gif-7944313

FYI: i'm a grey hat, Mansen

[pale sigil]

Why would I be :p

I'm an old retired admin

[hasty thunder]

[reef patrol]

https://tenor.com/view/lucky-star-anime-konata-izumi-computer-desktop-gif-14835314

[final flame]

https://tenor.com/view/keyboard-anime-fast-typing-busy-typing-gif-17794708

[reef patrol]

With the double ethernet laptop too.

[final flame]

gotta have that redundancy

[astral haven]

1 ethernet 1 phone line lel

or in prior times dual phone line

[reef patrol]

So I can chat up your mom over the phone, while I pwn you online.

[hasty thunder]

lol

[final flame]

you could also use it as video over ethernet

[astral haven]

that would be nice if that was how it worked, but no it was usually just a switch

[hasty thunder]

shots fired by Mansen

[reef patrol]

[pale sigil]

Damn that's a smooth sticker

[hasty thunder]

they're cute too

[final flame]

I would post a sticker but I don't have nitro

[pale sigil]

Best ones

[astral haven]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7mqkTFq7Ekg
this was a great video

[final flame]

anytime I have had nitro I didn't pay for it

[final flame]

https://tenor.com/view/smilecat-gif-25781442

[pale sigil]

The one I uploaded for mansen

But never got used

Pft

[hasty thunder]

[pale sigil]

Took me ages to compress it enough

[hasty thunder]

i wonder one thing tho: Does the Switch natively support the Wooting?

[final flame]

https://tenor.com/view/aris-arisu-alice-tendou-blue-archive-gif-27487878

[gusty kiln]

https://tenor.com/view/programming-crazy-hard-typing-mad-gif-7866344

[severe phoenix]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-keyboard-gif-7449882

[hasty thunder]

Before you ask if the Switch supports any keyboard in the first place: Yes, it does

[reef patrol]

[wheat plume]

Uuhhhhh

[hasty thunder]

I had my 2nd keyboard hooked up to my Switch just to chat with people in MHGU

[final flame]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/901267049240723458/917263822274830346/68747470733a2f2f63646e2e646973636f72646170702e636f6d2f6174746163686d656e74732f3830303934353037363838343733333937332f3838303137363634383137343037353933352f736e49456b6e68752e676966.gif

[cursive summit]

Please stop using this, I feel personally attacked and doxxed

The guy looks exactly like me

[hasty thunder]

Maybe YOU are the one who looks like him

[cursive summit]

Nah I am a saint

Omnipotent deity

That creature is impersonating my likeness

[final flame]

From now on I will use this

[severe phoenix]

https://tenor.com/view/animaniacs-computer-typing-keyboard-feet-gif-8595411

[misty saffron]

the guy looks like a generic european male

shocker

[frozen ingot]

ha the gore part is cut out

[gusty kiln]

yeah stupid discord

also Linus reminds me of one of the Succession siblings, never really taking anything seriously.

Probably a mix between Roman and Kendell

[final flame]

https://tenor.com/view/astroworld-yoshi-travis-scott-gif-23714883

found one of the classics I have saved

[reef patrol]

Lion King as an anime

[gusty kiln]

so far Floatplane has lost about 3k subscribers these past few days

[hasty thunder]

more of a Murican imo

[reef patrol]

I'm more interested in what happens in a month or two.

There will always be a short-term gut reacy

[final flame]

now I wonder what percentage are from the ltt channel

[astral haven]

only ltt is public afaik about their sub numbers?

[hasty thunder]

Isn't LMG on halt rn, restructuring their whole shit?

[astral haven]

yup

[reef patrol]

Still have videos scheduled

[hasty thunder]

guess they finally understood what GN was trying to tell them

[gusty kiln]

sponsor spots and LTTstore shilling in the apology video

[reef patrol]

Linus until literally everyone lashes back.

[astral haven]

did you watch the video?

[final flame]

I mean linus admitted he does act on emotion more than rationale

[reef patrol]

The apology one? Yes eventually

[cursive summit]

And proceeded to act on emotion right after

[astral haven]

its not until, its when

[reef patrol]

Then proceeded to repeat the mistake in the very same video 🤣

It kind of took away from the message and credibility

[astral haven]

well thats why its important that linus not make decisions?

[cursive summit]

That will never happen

He is no longer a CEO, yet he still acts impulsely

[astral haven]

if he had a corporate sandblasted appology, it would have been a lie

[cursive summit]

As long as the guy is an owner of the company, they will have a guy that acts on emotions and undermines the CEO's work

Cause why on earth did he respond himself, and not the CEO

[reef patrol]

Let's see what happens in a month. It'll take a while for these proposed changes to take effect

[gusty kiln]

https://preview.redd.it/7bn2pt9iugib1.png?width=640&crop=smart&auto=webp&s=089dee0593c4bf8ad636e7b96adbbc06c59cf1e9

[astral haven]

because it was his decision, the ceo wasnt in place at the time

[gusty kiln]

kinda feel bad for him, only a little though

[astral haven]

a ceo's job isnt PR for a private company

a ceo is PR for Public companies

not private ones

point is this is just ripping off the bandaid, they still need to actually do things
will they put on another bandaid or actually get treated?

[cursive summit]

Judging by their apology, it was very much a forced one

[astral haven]

on linus' part

[cursive summit]

No remorse and out of touch with what the outrage is about

Yes if you think that shilling a sponsor, putting ads in the video and advertising their merch store and unveiling a brand new screwdriver isn't completely out of touch then idk what is

It's an apology video

[reef patrol]

NGL that SNES screwdriver is tempting

[cursive summit]

They didn't even address most of the points that GN made, and didn't apologize for their mistreatment of GN

Like calling GN's journalistic practices bad

[astral haven]

again if it was sandblasted flat, it would have been a lie

[cursive summit]

GN wasn't mentioned once, nor were they ever apologized to

[astral haven]

I believe every word they said was Honest

[reef patrol]

@solar hinge you're the local LTT merch shill. Do you know if their store is set up for EU, or if you get blasted with import fees?

[final flame]

the jokes were there to lighten the already drab mood in the video

they made a decision to keep them

[astral haven]

also 6 nines of uptime is actually pretty good target

[cursive summit]

We'll see if LTT ever responds to the bullying, employee abuse and sexual harassment allegations

[astral haven]

they arent allowed to

[cursive summit]

Obviously

If they do they get sued to bits

[astral haven]

no

[cursive summit]

That's the biggest side of this whole story

[astral haven]

breaking the law doesnt get you sued

you only get sued if its not obvious or proven

[final flame]

allegations are in the end allegations until proven

[astral haven]

^

[solar hinge]

Technically they take care of taxes, but here everytime postnl pretends they don't do it correctly so they charge handling fees and vat, but i then send an email to LTT and I get what they held back for vat back

So i end up paying about 12 euros because postnl wants their cut for something that is correctly withheld already

[reef patrol]

Interesting... Well I guess I might have to take the 22€ fondling few gamble then.

When/if that variant releases.

[gusty kiln]

https://www.reddit.com/r/LinusTechTips/comments/15shydq/comment/jwef2on/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3

yikes and I'm not surprised with a workplace demographics

[astral haven]

taking the allegations as 100% true, I dont actually see justice in the courts if she did sue

[gusty kiln]

yeah it would take several eye witnesses on her side

and that's near impossible atm

[astral haven]

well not even

i think assuming that the courts take everything she says as true, she still doesnt get much of anything

[reef patrol]

"a Canadian can..."

She's not Canadian though.

[gusty kiln]

ahhh

[astral haven]

which is part of the problem :/

[gusty kiln]

completely forgot she's from the US

[astral haven]

Im actually looking forward to AI automating much of Art, as the artists will still be able to do what they want, but they wont have to be bound by corporate megastructures
yea its gonna suck for 99% during the transition, but hopefully once we get to the other side it will be worth it

[final flame]

is this satire?

[astral haven]

actually no

[final flame]

The issue with that statement is companies will no longer hire artists
they will hire people who are able to use ai utilities

[astral haven]

and they will compete with individuals able to use ai utilities

[cursive summit]

Who are not artists

[astral haven]

and the corprorate structures wont be able to handle the flexibility of the individual artists

[cursive summit]

You are throwing artists under the bus and yeeting them out of jobs

It's already happening

[astral haven]

that was said before about people who used digital cameras

[final flame]

it's simply not possible to compete
art takes time

It's simple to say they will compete but it's impossible to compete with something that will be able to create something within seconds

[astral haven]

the people who refuse to transition are done
thats an outcome that can only be delayed

[final flame]

Companies will always choose what's cheapest for them in the end

[astral haven]

there is a significant amount of monotony in art

monotony is grounds for AI replacement

[astral haven]

yes but companies are not as flexible as individuals

[final flame]

Monotony is due to the needs presented by companies
if you look anywhere online when it comes to digital art there's thousands of styles

[mild dome]

AI should not be allowed to train on copyrighted materials. period

[final flame]

Not to mention the monotony gets reflected in Ai art

[astral haven]

artists shouldnt be allowed to be inspired by copyrighted materials

[mild dome]

Not the same thing

AI is a product not a person

[astral haven]

im not sure you are aware of the finetuning process

[final flame]

the issue with that statement is Ai takes parts of the dataset and uses them, not redraws them
Artists redraw and take inspiration from small cues and parts of a style or design and creates a new thing

[astral haven]

current AI works by drawing reference frames as a way to stabilize the AI itself

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FQ6z90MuURM

[mild dome]

Imagine you make a killer Application after a year of development. Very quickly it starts gaining in popularity, Apple, Google, whomever sees in their feeds that your app is gaining popularity fast.
Apple/Google is now able to take the application, and instantly create a "legally distinct" copy, killing any fledgling companies that could possibly compete

AI is more of a giant compression algorithm really. It shouldn't be legal to make it off of copyrighted material

[reef patrol]

I completely forgot Corridor existed after they did that godawful anime ai video

Immediately unsubscribed

[final flame]

There have been more times than not of me looking at pixiv artists and it looks like ai art
but in reality it's not Ai, because that artist was one of the artists the dataset was made off of

[astral haven]

again symptoms of early adoption

[astral haven]

if you can prove that statement, you might be able to save us from getting killed by AI

[final flame]

Ai has a place in modern illustration but should not replace artists
Ai should be used as a guide/inspiration, not as the final product

[mild dome]

Imagine the future AI is going to lead to in media creation.
An indie company makes a movie, now Disney or warner Bros takes their movie, flings it through an AI generater, and creates a "legally distinct" copy, that they can now sell.
No one else can possibly compete

[astral haven]

and i dont mean figuratively, literally converted into nothing interesting because we have no way to predict the actual output of the AIs without testing them

[astral haven]

but why couldnt an individual do that as well?

[mild dome]

Because the individual won't have access to the AI

[astral haven]

why not?

[mild dome]

It's free to access most of it AT THE MOMENT, because they are trying to generate hype for it

Once its ready for actually making media, it's going to be closed off

[astral haven]

no its free access because the EA movement logicked that closing it off guarantees everyone dies

[final flame]

I don't think I need to point out all the flaws in this image

[mild dome]

With the right amount of keywords I can get the AI to spit out any artist's work

[astral haven]

but you can only do that through trial and error, or finetuning

[mild dome]

They are going to close it off eventually.

[astral haven]

who is they?
github?

somehow doubt that

[mild dome]

Future generation are going to be closed off, shit that can make entire movies

[astral haven]

SOTA image generation in FOSS is several years ahead of Private, and the gap is growing not shrinking

[final flame]

I don't think I need to explain issues

long foot

[mild dome]

Plus you run into an additional problem
Companies are really good at abusing copyright. An individual makes something using AI, companies will sue them into the ground they don't even have to win remember? They just need to bankrupt them
Anyone who tries to sue the company would need millions

[final flame]

or meat/feet blob

[astral haven]

short term problem fam
also the rules have already been set
cant copyright the AI work itself

[mild dome]

Like AI art generators aren't being made for the people's™️ benefit. Massive corps are shoving money into it, because they can get rid of artists, actors, and writers, and use the AI to steal their work instantly if they ever make anything

[astral haven]

that is a symptom

[mild dome]

Watch companies ignore that last part

Then the symptom needs to be curtailed, new laws must be implemented to prevent companies from using AI to steal IP

[astral haven]

again just targeting symptoms

the art world is defined on prior art

IP is a way to close the skill gap between a group of 1000 people and an inventive individual

[mild dome]

When the printing press was invented, and companies began stealing writer's work to mass print books they didn't write. We realized as a society that copyright was a necessary system
The invention of AI presents a similar problem as the ol printing press. Any creator can quickly find their work taken out of their hands using the AI the create "legally distinct" copies

Well here's the thing
an AI generating art =/= a human making art

[astral haven]

and the job of book scribe never returned

[mild dome]

The AI has no capacity for creativity, it does not understand what it makes

[astral haven]

exactly

a Human uses AI

[final flame]

Ai uses human works, I don't see your point

[astral haven]

humans use human works, i dont see your point either?

[final flame]

the only creativity it has is already existing work

there is no innovation

[astral haven]

creativity is a word that isnt defined

it is a goalpost that keeps moving just like intelligence

100 years ago, chess was intelligence, and writing was creativity

[mild dome]

We as a society realized that ownership of IP was more important and more powerful then ownership of individual items
A man can make a drill and make $$, replacing the maker of the drill with a machine doesn't mean the idea of the drill is stolen from the man
A man who revolutionises the design of the drill, and use that idea to make millions generating a lot more. However with AI a company could mass generate plans for drills, putting the creator of the new drill in an eternal IP war

[astral haven]

ai is a tool

[mild dome]

The man using the AI isn't making, he's hitting random

Yes,
The printing press is a tool

[astral haven]

the man who makes drills without ai needs to use ai to compete

the printing press put the scribe out of a job

[mild dome]

That doesn't mean it's legal for me to mass print books and sell them without the IP holder permission

[analog sinew]

And if Disney has something to say about, it never will

[astral haven]

but if its not the same book, then its ok???

[final flame]

not to mention the fact that Ai was created by scraping mass amounts of copyrighted material to even work

[astral haven]

find an artist who trained without looking at copyrighted work who was successful

[reef patrol]

There's law. And then there's squints Disney's law.

[analog sinew]

The law of money

[mild dome]

If it took 5 seconds through a computer generator to make a near copy it's not ethical

[reef patrol]

Hope you don't need those kneecaps or your worldly belongings.

[astral haven]

why is it ethical if it takes a person an entire day?

[mild dome]

AI=/= human

The AI has no understanding of what it makes, what it generates, the process, the story

[final flame]

Inspiration is not the same as Ai work
Same reason why tracing is widely looked down upon

[reef patrol]

Even in death, Walk comes to collect.

[astral haven]

so if a human uses the ai its ethical?

[mild dome]

No

[astral haven]

but tracing isnt illegal

[mild dome]

Because the AI is doing the work

[final flame]

you may have traced a artwork and redrew it, but it still isn't yours

[astral haven]

but the human can

[mild dome]

Not if he's using AI

[astral haven]

how little do you have to change to redraw it

[astral haven]

ok so what algorithms are allowed?

[final flame]

it could be if taken to court and the court finds that they are too similar to be considered inspiration
same thing happens with music and melodies

[mild dome]

The AI is being sold as a product, the product relies on copyrighted material to market itself. It's a violation of the idea copyright was meant to protect

[astral haven]

ok so do that?

[astral haven]

thats a temporary limitation

the better the AI, the less training data needed

[mild dome]

Algorithms not trained on copyrighted material are allowed

[astral haven]

so human learning isnt allowed?

[mild dome]

"temporary limitation" my ass, it's going to be used to steal IP the entire time it exists

Humans aren't algorithms you dunce

[final flame]

The artists should have the right to deny their work from being used in datasets from ai companies

[mild dome]

Fuck this guy I need to sleep

[astral haven]

humans use a learning algorithm

[astral haven]

why is this algorithm allowed, and all others arent?

[analog sinew]

i feel like i saw this scene in I, robot

[astral haven]

sure but that doesnt solve the problem

copyright has an end date

[analog sinew]

that's where disney comes in

[astral haven]

train a sufficiently advanced ai on all the 100 year old and older media, and it will still be able to reproduce the new stuff

sure i am aware that this would allow the companies to last longer

but thats not what we want?

we want the artists to be paid...

[coarse cloak]

🤔

[astral haven]

the companies are cutting artists who dont embrace the tools, as they are a liability

the artists need to use the tools

digital cameras were an even bigger transition in terms of decreasing wasted time, yet they took over regardless of the moral issues

dont you feel bad for putting the film development houses out of business?

how about the film splicers

how about the multiprojectionists

how about the people who cut the masks for film?

[final flame]

The tools will always give inferior results no matter who is using them
they should only be used as a guide

Digital cameras succeeded because of the convenience for the average user
Film still has it's uses in professional studios

[astral haven]

film is still in use despite being unilaterally worse

ai wont remove 100% of the slow parts of the job, but it will still remove 99% of the existing jobs in the industry

that doesnt mean those people cant move to AI

[astral haven]

imposing artificial limitations on yourself to make yourself more creative is a choice humans make

but its only an option afforded to the most rich

at least for feature length films

[final flame]

even if the Artists move to AI do you think that will stop companies from not hiring them
fixing mistakes the Ai creates is already a time intensive process

depending how many issues there are in the composition the more work will have to be done
not to mention it's also more difficult to match Ai work due to how it composes certain things in a archaic way

[astral haven]

ok glaxes do you think you could have potentially even remotely made any of those arguments 5 years ago?

draw the curve

[final flame]

do you think you could have made your initial statement 5 years ago?

[astral haven]

yep!

wouldnt have been called ai, it was neural filters

but the end result is the same

once nvidia put in the alg that cut out a spiderweb from a picture into photoshop, the writing was on the wall for a significant portion of the industry

[astral haven]

...

[astral haven]

like i could have worded my statement less combatively, but its all true
i wont lie that im not looking forward to the result

you can replace AI with neural filters, digital cameras, printing press, newspapers, cameras in general, it applies just the same

[astral haven]

obviously to replace them you actually need to say the statement before the transition these which i didnt for any besides AI
but I dont see what makes this different besides simply being further than we have ever been before...

the end result for artists is actually more dire than most people think btw
if noone has built a metaai that finetunes an LLM to convert standard english into good diffusion prompts, i would be shocked

you can then use a complicated web as well as a verifier to try to tell the difference between the human works and the generated...

[final flame]

neural filters are far less capable than Ai due to how they are created
Neural filters can't create something from nothing

Ai is inherently flawed as to how precise it can get with prompts and design
it cannot grab a image out of your brain as to what you want something to look like
In the end a artist will still be needed for it to function without issue

Text and precise instruction is what it fails most at
As a designer myself I know how annoying clients get when something needs to be changed ever so slightly

[astral haven]

name one of these that cant be solved?

if you can make any formal proofs on those statements you may be able to get a nobel peace prize lel

if an LLM gets large enough, it would be able to predict what someone would say in response to being shown the image
feed that back into the metaai, and keep running until they like it

there will allways be a market for stuff made the classic way
I watched openheimer on imax (70mm)

nolans will always exist

but nolan is a megamillionaire

the dude who made astartes is not

corridor digital is not

[wheat plume]

https://youtu.be/Oe4s-lmSK5A

Mass-produced computer with Intel Arc!!!

[reef patrol]

So... An Intel Laptop?

[gusty kiln]

https://www.reddit.com/r/headphones/comments/ymzi3g/nan7_first_measurement/

budget Susvara

[final flame]

no way, budget sussyvara

[gusty kiln]

they basically copied the driver design from the HE-6/Susvara

unit to unit variation is probably worse

[final flame]

kinda expected from a small company

that's how audeze was when they first started

the original lc2 prefazor had many issues with variation

[gusty kiln]

can only get from Taobao, but it's way cheaper, under 1K

[final flame]

yea
but so far that's only the frequency response
once the actual reviews come in that's when we'll know whether it's worth it

damn it's even more expensive on aliexpress

[astral haven]

thats normal

taobao is pretty raw, ali is usually resellers

there are sites that can interface with taobao for you

[gusty kiln]

in the reddit thread, someone said the aliexpress one could be a scammer

[final flame]

these prices can't be right either

at least the one on the right

[gusty kiln]

1st one is fine

about 750 USD

[astral haven]

gotta be real careful
"pads only" "headband only"

gotta use a fine tooth comb over the listing

[final flame]

I can't even look at the full listing without logging in

[cursive summit]

https://www.pcgamesn.com/valve/steam-remote-play-4k

[final flame]

honestly may consider it

I loved the starfield, shame it died on me

[gusty kiln]

it's S-tier for a reason according to Crinacle

endgame for "only" $999

[astral haven]

thats still big money

[gusty kiln]

yeah, but in the land of audiophile, that's mid lol

[final flame]

it's not big money if you have money to spend

[astral haven]

-_-

if your income is under the 90th percentile its a large amount of money

[gusty kiln]

the more I use qobuz, the more I realize their library is really lacking

[final flame]

skill issue, just save and don't get yourself unnecessary kids expenses

[astral haven]

I can make the choice to buy a $1000 item
that doesnt make $1000 worth any less
the opportunity cost of $1000 is huge regardless of who spends it really

[gusty kiln]

I'll wait a few more month before trying Tidal

[final flame]

apparently tidal isn't full flac yet

[gusty kiln]

yeah

only 6mil are flac

[final flame]

and spotify still hasn't released HD yet

[gusty kiln]

lol they'll never

[astral haven]

deezer for the win

[fickle ore]

1000$ is definitely too much

whats the end game for 100$?

[final flame]

billy eilish gonna become irrelevant before they release it

[pale sigil]

BIllie

[final flame]

moondrop aria

[gusty kiln]

don't you need to use a streamer?

for deezer

[astral haven]

?

[final flame]

not that I know of

[astral haven]

android is supposed to work

as is the web app

[final flame]

you can also use flac downloaders with deezer

[astral haven]

i never paid for the HQ sub tho

[gusty kiln]

it doesn't do bitperfect output apparently

[fickle ore]

I basically went with non flat iem and it was horrible

[gusty kiln]

dunno if that has changed

[final flame]

that's android in general

[astral haven]

get over it lel

[fickle ore]

I just need 100% perfect harman otherwise its horrible

[final flame]

the only bitperfect player on android is uapp

[final flame]

harman isn't flat lol

[gusty kiln]

I mean if you're paying for the higher tier, I want to at least be able to use it

[astral haven]

closest at the moment I think is the crinacle red

[astral haven]

bitperfect is a meme

[fickle ore]

flat descriptively keke

[astral haven]

you can reconstruct audio perfectly without being bitperfect

[gusty kiln]

actual flat sounds bad

[fickle ore]

zero red?

[astral haven]

it depends on how you define flat

[gusty kiln]

"actual"

[astral haven]

ye

[final flame]

harman isn't flat, it's based on the average of what people enjoy

[astral haven]

sorta

[fickle ore]

then that average can be described to be flat or neutral

[astral haven]

it was however mathematically derived from flat speakers

using room geometry and math to reproduce what people like

as well as head geometry and ear interactions

basically they found the curve that people liked, and justified it by building the room that would recreate that given a true flat theoretical speaker

[final flame]

not necessarily
some people describe harman as too treble heavy or bass heavy

it's designed to be enjoyable, not flat

[astral haven]

sorta

its designed so that you can use it as a baseline to compensate from for personal preference

[fickle ore]

Flat can be perfectly enjoyable, it doesnt describe that the sound is flat, just that the curve (of average) of millions of people is flat and attributed a 100% value, where if it deviates is now non-flat, e.g V-shaped.

But that's just me ofc

[astral haven]

there are definitions for flat

[final flame]

it's like food with no seasoning
maybe that's why british tuning can be so wack sometimes

[gusty kiln]

[astral haven]

2 main ones are spl vs frequency graph has a slope of zero

and perceived spl vs frequency slope is zero

[gusty kiln]

chord with their weird aesthetics

[astral haven]

neither are even remotely close to what people actually want to listen to

[gusty kiln]

@final flame have you replaced your 6XX pads yet? I haven't since late 2020

[final flame]

yea I replaced them

earlier this year

[gusty kiln]

hmmm. I'll wait till it's uncomfortable for my ears

[final flame]

had my original pads on them since late 2019

[astral haven]

the other annoying part is our ears are nonlinear sensitivity vs frequency themselves
i miss loudness vs volume being separate controls

blue lines are curves that sound the same loudness to humans

[fickle ore]

explains why bass is rly annoying at mid/low volume

[astral haven]

yup

depending on how loud you like to listen to music, different iems will sound completely different

[fickle ore]

yeah teh kz1 pro's i got were so bad due to bass and not being very harman

oh well 'expensive' learning lesson

[astral haven]

do you know you like harman tho?

i know I very much do, but i also very much enjoy the sennheiser house sound which is quite different

[fickle ore]

I'm not sure, I very much liked the HD800 sound signature

And I like my genelec's

hard to say which more 😄

[astral haven]

speakers are incomparable to inears and overears

[fickle ore]

yea

[astral haven]

speakers use your native HRTF, headphones and iems need to emulate it

go to crinacles graph tool, find hd800, find kz1 pros, and compare to aria and truthear zero

[fickle ore]

Tbh I dont have much experience of headphones. I basically went from:
ATH-AD700 -> ATH AD900 -> HD800 lol

[astral haven]

lel

i havent tried hd800, but ive tried 800s and they really were unpleasant to me

and i very much like harman

so you may be better off with something aria like

[fickle ore]

tbh they didnt sound much different but I had the non-x version that crinacle lacks

[astral haven]

be aware that the IEM graph defaults to B&k which is a new style of graph that is extremely different from the gras

[fickle ore]

okie

[astral haven]

if you want similar graph you need to pick the "711" graph comparison

[fickle ore]

couldnt find it but Ill check it later, tbh looking at the red it's still quite far away from perfect harman, which is probably very hard to achieve

[astral haven]

wha

oh yea remember crin uses IEF neutral not harman

the line he uses is not the same

i personally have the original zero which follows harman closer, but most folks who have both preferred the red which is a bit off everywhere else besides following bass significantly more closely

[fickle ore]

damn the original seems close

[astral haven]

ye
i very much enjoy it
but the bass is loud af

i like that but its pretty serious

[astral haven]

Also if you want exactly Harman, get the n400

samsung owns harman

[fickle ore]

Basically need calculated deviation of these haha, cant make out which is closer

[coarse cloak]

woah akg n400

[astral haven]

the n400 is spicy treble like the 800, i think youll like em besides the awful ergonomics and touch controls

but the buds 2 pro are supposed to be more pleasant all around

[fickle ore]

hd800 were kinda harsh at the beginning on treble side but

it went away after y time

cant remember

[astral haven]

thats how it is for me with the n400

only reason i dont use them more is the practical lack of touch controls

like they actually dont work

[digital cliff]

N400 are still not available in EU btw

[fickle ore]

ah

[astral haven]

thats quitter talk

be aware tho that akg used to sell these for under $60

i bought 2 of em for $104 direct from akg a bit over a year ago

[fickle ore]

oh rip intel tower deal is off

[astral haven]

what

[fickle ore]

couldnt do it bc china didnt allow it

https://www.reuters.com/technology/intel-walk-away-54-bln-acquisition-tower-semiconductor-sources-2023-08-16/

[astral haven]

ah ok

[astral haven]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7QAGEvt-btI

[wheat plume]

I found degenerate Android

[astral haven]

god imagine if this was the aesthetic that apple had chosen to be their house style

yea but imagine if it went mainstream

[wheat plume]

It never would :')

[hardy idol]

https://old.reddit.com/r/LinusTechTips/comments/15sjv78/for_anyone_wondering_why_madison_stayed_silent/

[coarse cloak]

wild

[cursive summit]

https://twitter.com/verge/status/1691887470902653264

The Verge (@verge)

What started as criticism over errors in recent YouTube videos has escalated into allegations of sexual harassment, prompting the company to hire an outside investigator. https://t.co/xlZEydFjlq

Likes

216

Twitter · Aug 16, 2023, 6:59 PM

[wheat plume]

Telegram wants to be TikTok now

Upload photos and short videos

[astral haven]

impressive, if they actually do anything about that, that would be fantastic

[wheat plume]

Hmmm

[astral haven]

?

voice messages are for 1:1 comms

they are not great for public stuff

other way around?

lemme guess you arent aware of the 60/50hz location sidechannel

it shouldnt be made that easy for users to leak their own location

[thick elk]

Reminds me of a random thought, if the US would have had 50hz, would console games run at 25 or 50 fps during the ps360/ps4one era?

[astral haven]

yes, as would the tvs

[thick elk]

of course I implied that part, just wondering if the easier to reach 50 would be the norm or instead the worse 25

[astral haven]

🤷 im gonna guess that the target of 25 would have stuck

yup

the exact frequency of the hum can be extracted, then compared against all of the various power grid fluctuations that are mostly posted online

[thick elk]

Definitely during the ps3 / 360 era with a lot of games dropping to that framerate already, I guess the ps4 era would have had more 50fps games.

[astral haven]

its been quite a while but i assume so

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e0elNU0iOMY

because it only tells you what power grid they are on

it takes 3 letter agencies to narrow it down to a specific substation

no

which specific grid they are on

so you would find out that im in california

of a texan is in texas

ye who are part of the same grid

the utilities are required to work together to keep the frequency as stable as possible

they share lines

the less stable the grid ofc, the more unique the signature

but the less stable grids also dont provide a graph of their frequency over time online

well a single person would need to have a recording of the grid at multiple locations and compare them
thats practically beyond what individuals could do

if discord was purely people within one location sure

but its a worldwide thing

also if there is a livestream with audio on the same powergrid as you, a more motivated group could find it more accurately

what?

i just said at best it tells you what substation the person is using

sure in a city that may narrow it down to 1 building

but that is often gonna be thousands of people or homes

With voice chat you can at least see exactly who is receiving your audio data...

Also the main reason folks use voice for mms is to prevent people from screenshotting it
If you are posting it publicly just use STT

[cursive summit]

https://overclock3d.net/news/gpu_displays/amd_s_aiming_to_make_starfield_their_debut_fsr_3_game/1

Yeyeyeye

Good shit

[astral haven]

Well you don't need to go to the level of analyzing frequency data to find a ham operator lol

[cursive summit]

Please don't lock it to RX 7000 series

[astral haven]

I don't think that AMD has a hardware unit to perform any of those operations so I don't see why they would need to lock it to anything

I really hope that they took significant inspiration from that community reprojection demo and for example oculus's reprojection from their VR headsets

[astral haven]

VR is proof that you can have input latency lower than the time it takes to render a frame

[cursive summit]

That was based on the MLID thing I shared like 4-5 days ago?

[ashen spindle]

no I think it was shown somewhere before but the easy way is to just attribute it to MLID

[cursive summit]

I was hoping it was some independent reporting

Starfield is a good title to showcase FSR3 with

Assuming it works

Which, knowing AMD, it might not

[ashen spindle]

you mean knowing bethesda it might not work

[hardy idol]

@woven laurel

Thanks mate

[ashen spindle]

np

[hardy idol]

oh

hi quin

Thank you

Xd

Didn´t know you had those perms but thanks nice

[ashen spindle]

anti bot role has for these cases

that's literally mlids reason

ignoring the point deathloop was just published by them

[thick elk]

Honestly I really couldn't care much about frame generation, I don't think I am that susceptible to smoother visuals. I have way too hard a time noticing screen tearing already. I mostly notice lower framerates from input lag.

[hardy idol]

!!

[halcyon willow]

Question

A VR has games on it, but you can connect your PC and play games from steam too?

[ashen spindle]

I think you are mixing up words there

[halcyon willow]

Explain please

Because I played games on my friends VR without anything connected

[ashen spindle]

your sentence makes no sense

[halcyon willow]

But I’ve seen streamers connect it to their Pc

[wheat plume]

ok this computer is neat

RTX 3060 performance but Intel Arc

[ashen spindle]

try saying again what you meant differently maybe I get what you ask then

[crimson wigeon]

Probably they're on about say a meta quest that can operate both standalone and connected to a computor

[halcyon willow]

Yeah

[ashen spindle]

ohh VR = vr device

yes some are standalone but those all can be used at a pc

kinda like a tablet that you could also use as an extra monitor

[astral haven]

reprojection would allow lowering input lag below the time it takes to render a frame

and that requires frame generation of some kind

[ashen spindle]

which really means nothing

[astral haven]

well it does mean they probably arent going for 1:3 frame upsampling lel

[ashen spindle]

fsr2 came out earlier than most expected, just the improvements are a bit lacking so maybe here it will be otherwise

[thick elk]

I am quite skeptical about it, over all machine learning approaches seem to be more capable for this type of thing, AMD lacks the hardware for those.
I really wish FSR 2 makes some leaps but I also doubt that.

XESS seems to be doing quite well in some cases also when accelerated

[astral haven]

doesnt have to be ML
also nvidia has a hardware motion vector generator unit, and afaik its not ML

[ashen spindle]

yeah doesnt need ML, xess is still closed source despite other promises whcih is sad

[astral haven]

sorta

like they use binary blobs, but the code for interacting with those binary blobs is open

[thick elk]

Either way I hope for something open to every vendor with close enough image quality / performance cost to DLSS.
I really fear for AMD's gpu devision especially if the rumors about RDNA 4 are true.

[ashen spindle]

the code for interacting with blobs is what you mgiht as well call an API in other cases lmfao

that does not count as open source

[astral haven]

🤷 afaik its more than an api

[ashen spindle]

I really fear for AMD's gpu devision
no need to worry about them

yes its a bit more but really nothing like what it should be

[astral haven]

why?

[ashen spindle]

this is not how your word that you graciously allow people to use it and call the implementation to use it open source

[astral haven]

https://github.com/GameTechDev/XeSS-VALAR-Demo/tree/main/Source/XeSS

[thick elk]

Open source implies that people can freely modify XeSS itself, not freely interface with it, and that is not the case

[ashen spindle]

as "VP of Graphics Research" there is no way he would not know what those words mean and during the intel architecture day or some of those online events they repeated that as well

[astral haven]

the source code for xess is available online

[ashen spindle]

now I fully expect intel to internall fight over what to open becuase it would show how the hardware gets interacted with or idk but it's been 2 years now

[astral haven]

https://github.com/GameTechDev/XeSS-VALAR-Demo/blob/main/Source/XeSS/XeSSProcess.cpp

this looks like original source to me?

they arent doing foss development
but they do be appear to be publishing code in the open every once in a while

[ashen spindle]

havent done gpu code in a while so I need some time to properly look through it

[astral haven]

i cant tell what this does, but it doesnt include any blobs, and it does do some gpu operations related to upscaling

[thick elk]

For me it's rather simple if XeSS itself is open source, intel would claim so.
Phoronix while I don't always trust his benchmarks I do trust on that front: https://www.phoronix.com/news/Intel-XeSS-1.2

The repo is also called SDK for a reason

[astral haven]

this isnt from the xess repo

[ashen spindle]

I think in the runtime file the actual code gets executed on the provided arguments and that I cant find the class for

https://github.com/GameTechDev/XeSS-VALAR-Demo/blob/main/Source/XeSS/XeSSRuntime.cpp#L242 this function essentially

[astral haven]

im at work so i cant do this, but the proof would be to download the repo
delete all the binaries inside, and then build from source

[ashen spindle]

https://www.intel.com/content/dam/developer/articles/technical/xess-velocity-and-luminance-adaptive-rasterization/fig4.svg think that code is for the steps before the upscaling here

from https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/developer/articles/technical/xess-velocity-and-luminance-adaptive-rasterization.html

bleh svg still dont embed

but too tired, im asking someone about that tomorrow

[astral haven]

icic let me know im no programmer

just a demo enthusiast

[thick elk]

I am pretty sure what the answer will be considering the press around it and the lack of active claims by intel that it's open source. Just don't see why it would be secretly completely open source.

[ashen spindle]

I mean, could be that by some accident another part had it open just like meta had the magnet link for their llm in a git commit

[astral haven]

^

[ashen spindle]

but I dont see anything that would change on dp4a/xmx hardware thats why I'm quite confident its not xess

or rather not the important bits

[astral haven]

very good point

sad

[gusty kiln]

https://www.reddit.com/r/LinusTechTips/comments/15t1mzn/mandatory_meeting_the_after_madisons_departure/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3

another drama nugget

[coarse cloak]

"rumours"

[severe phoenix]

https://www.theverge.com/2023/8/16/23834190/linus-tech-tips-gamersnexus-madison-reeves-controversy

[raw zephyr]

this LTT thing got out of hand very quickly

[nimble fiber]

anyone know how i can fix not being able to type in search bar windows

well yeah

it also doesnt allow me to search in files

[hot charm]

when is wooting new keyboard！

[raw zephyr]

1 month 3 days 4 hours 39 minutes and 16 seconds

[severe phoenix]

https://i.redd.it/n1n5wwm6emib1.jpg

Linus's lil stubby is being delayed

https://tenor.com/view/sterling-archer-sterling-malory-archer-archer-phrasing-hey-gif-16635196

[wheat plume]

Damn
They really teasing you with that stubby

[raw zephyr]

there is no way you actually spent that much on a screwdriver

[wheat plume]

How much is it?

[dreamy zenith]

70USD

[wheat plume]

O...

[severe phoenix]

https://twitter.com/tomwarren/status/1692072320343368132?s=20

Tom Warren (@tomwarren)

Lenovo’s Steam Deck competitor has leaked. The Legion Go looks like it combines parts of the Steam Deck and the Nintendo Switch into one. Now we need a Windows handheld mode for these Steam Deck competitors https://t.co/0goMTFaahx

Likes

614

Twitter · Aug 17, 2023, 7:14 AM

lol

I can't wait for the first reports of "my handheld fell when the lock on mechanism failed"

[raw zephyr]

nintendo switch kickstand also sucks, at least the old one

doesn't the new one have the same design?

[old marlin]

would be great if windows got an "xbox mode" for those handhelds

otherwise only viable OS is linux

[raw zephyr]

imo windows on handhelds failed in windows ce era

what was it originally? embedded standard or something

[severe phoenix]

https://www.phoronix.com/review/amd-inception-benchmarks

[old marlin]

it was quite decent on phones

and windows embedded died a LOT later than ce

[raw zephyr]

to be expected, meltdown and spectre also eat performance

[old marlin]

private sector, sure

[raw zephyr]

my work still uses some handheld scanners that run on windows embedded, the rest is on android

[old marlin]

yea

they were common up until like 10 years ago?

aka when smartphones became popular

[raw zephyr]

sounds about right

[old marlin]

and windows for handhelds was just smartphones

[raw zephyr]

what about windows mobile or how did they call it

[old marlin]

yea that was smartphone only

CE became mobile

[old marlin]

nah that is fake

[raw zephyr]

looks cursed to me

[old marlin]

that is the last one

"windows 10 mobile"

runs win 10 kernel

[raw zephyr]

this tiles design was truly awful

[old marlin]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_10_Mobile

[old marlin]

idk it isn't so bad for phones

[halcyon moss]

yikes
https://www.phoronix.com/review/amd-inception-benchmarks/4

[wheat plume]

I genuinely miss tie UI design on Windows Phone 8.1
I loved the animations and the universal dark theme and whatnot

10 ruined it

[halcyon moss]

interesting that for a lot of usecases it makes almost no difference

[ashen spindle]

If it’s only some that are heavily affected then usually a change in code or compile settings and get most of that back to other apps performance

[severe phoenix]

Hopefully, a 54% drop is a lot

[halcyon moss]

safe RET is the one to look at.

def not great

[empty wren]

At the very least launchers exist to compensate

[frozen ingot]

$70 isn't that expensive for a quality screwdriver

[severe phoenix]

lol

It's pretty expensive yeah'

You can get much cheaper screwdrivers of great quality too

[old marlin]

Eh, a quality equally featured one will be in the same price range

Problem is that you can damage the ltt screwdriver with overtight screws

[ashen spindle]

The point of merch for that is mostly you support creator you like and get something of value on top

Just like shirts etc.

[cursive summit]

The issue with LTT is

It's not really "merch" in a sense anymore

LTT seems to be trying to become a brand for tools and other paraphernalia

And it's a bit hard to justify 70$ for one, they are not worth anywhere near that much

[ashen spindle]

I mean it’s just like the GN toolkit, still merch essentially

[cursive summit]

In a sense yeah

But it's evident LTT is trying to become a household brand at this point

[old marlin]

doesn't mean it can't be a good product on it's own

[ashen spindle]

Yes but it means it can be a bit more than what the product in the market would cost without the part if it supporting a creator

[old marlin]

well yea

imo if you want llt merch just buy a shirt

or maybe the bagpack, seems pretty decent and has less of a chance to bite you in the ass

[ashen spindle]

Sure but as long as it’s somewhat useable it’s fine imo

If you want one anyway

[old marlin]

ig yea?

[cursive summit]

https://www.theverge.com/2023/8/16/23835191/lenovo-legion-go-leaked-images-steam-deck-competitor

Update on the LTT situation

Reddit intervened and removed the leaked audio from the LTT subreddit

And more LTT ex-workers are coming to verify the abuse claims

[halcyon moss]

@cursive summit

[cursive summit]

Ah

Sorry

[old marlin]

somebody knows if you can make a custom window tiling in win 11?

or if I need to install powertoys for that

[cursive summit]

What's "custom window tiling"

Window border appearance and such?

[crimson wigeon]

Yeah you'll need utilities for fancy tiling

[old marlin]

rip

[cursive summit]

I am not sure what that is

[old marlin]

I want a tiling so I can get a window for a youtube window at max size without making the video smaller

under my discord

[cursive summit]

Ah, that feature

I'm guessing just sizing them yourself by dragging the window sizes and positions is too much work?

[old marlin]

I just want it a bit quicker

[cursive summit]

Fair enough

[old marlin]

• powertoys always a good software

can recommend

https://learn.microsoft.com/de-de/windows/powertoys/

[misty saffron]

still not sure why the powertoys spotlight type feature isn’t included in windows

it seems to work better than the default search

also doesn’t force you to use edge for web searches

[old marlin]

powertoys run also good

[ashen spindle]

Powertoys should just be default in windows but a toggle to start them or smth

[cursive summit]

@ashen spindle hey darling, I am not german and you should be able to assist, if you are willing. Is computeruniverse a reputable retailer in GER?

[ashen spindle]

Yeah

[cursive summit]

On the level of mindfactory?

Cause computeruniverse seems to actually offer shipping

And the deals are incredibly good

[ashen spindle]

Seems to have complaints about shipping times

Never used them but they are around for decades now

[cursive summit]

That's only if they don't have the inventory in stock

But yeah it tends to get long if they have to order from a warehouse

Seems good as hell, found a 3080Ti laptop for 1600

Which by far is the best deal so far local, on amazon or anywhere else where I don't have to pay customs

[fair gull]

use CU a lot when i worked in germany

built most of the gaming PCs with parts of theirs

[cursive summit]

Yeah CU seems like a good place

[solemn remnant]

see ya

[fair gull]

just be ware that they sticker every box they sell

[cursive summit]

Thanks to them I remembered that Minisforum exists

And that windows NUCs can actually game nowadays

[fair gull]

so if you care about the box just very very slowly peel it off

[cursive summit]

So screw the whole laptop thing, I'll be buying a minisforum nuc