🔌│tech

[latent mural]

real advice

[final flame]

do they complain the only reason why they aren't better is because of their equipment

blaming your equipment only goes so far
keep on doing that and you'll never become good

[latent mural]

my wooting doesnt have pcb mount stabs thats why i didnt get that kill in valorant

[fickle ore]

osu! is hardly the pinnacle of skill or competition because it's played against static targets not evolving or reacting, unlike humans

[latent mural]

i think this point can be applied to any game

he just gave osu as an example

if shape wasnt a factor, i'd perform the same way with a g305 or deathadder

[final flame]

have a look at some top level ar11 gameplay and tell me whether the targets in your shooters pop up that quickly

[fickle ore]

The most important part of a gaming mouse is shape, weight, click and motion latency anyway

other stuff is meaningless like sensor being 3950 vs 3995 etc

[final flame]

not to mention you're also playing a online game
lag from your connection to the server will matter more than the latency of your peripherals

[latent mural]

the only objective things in that list are click and motion latency

[fickle ore]

heard of lag compensation?

[halcyon willow]

PC latency matters the most in any latency chain after WiFi

[latent mural]

That's why I also watch Optimums cpu reviews, he added pc latency to the chart

[final flame]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EZpQkDooNqw

[fickle ore]

Anything below 60 g weight is generally good enough, but that excludes g305. The rest of your arguments I have nothing to add to because to me they're a strawman. You're just dismissing the effects of hardware. Hardware isn't subjective beyond novice level stuff.

Let's just agree to disagree on the whole

[halcyon willow]

Bro used osu 💀💀

[ashen spindle]

wouldnt that just be an inverted FPS chart lol

[latent mural]

you do realize that some people perform better with heavier mice because of stability?

[latent mural]

not sure, I'm not too educated on the whole latency part

[final flame]

osu is a good example due to it's absurdly high skill ceiling

[fickle ore]

most of it is, that is: cpu + gpu frame latency, unless the reviewer is really good then they can catch more stuff

[ashen spindle]

optimum tech you mean yeah?

[latent mural]

yeah

check his 7950x3d review

[halcyon willow]

Using weight to mask their poor stability

[latent mural]

thats where i saw it last time

[ashen spindle]

yeah thats just the fps chart inverted lol, aka more fps = less latency

[latent mural]

for some yeah

[latent mural]

i see

[ashen spindle]

there is no time where something with less fps has lower latency there

so no real point

[latent mural]

btw since you have a 4090 i think, what cpu do you have paired with it?

[final flame]

hardware matters less than it used to
basically everything is around the same latency, cheap or expensive
once again the main limitation of your hardware is you, the player

[ashen spindle]

5600x

[halcyon willow]

If I were a budget gamer first thing I would do is get Ethernet

[final flame]

we aren't playing with razer boomslangs anymore
times have changed

[latent mural]

I'm not sure abt Starfield performance at 4k( ihave 5800x3d and 3090ti) so i considered a 7800x3d and 4090

[latent mural]

doesnt that fuck it hard at 3440x1440p?

[ashen spindle]

the higher the resolution the less the cpu matters

[latent mural]

true but there is also DLSS

DLSS Quality at 1440p is 1080p

[ashen spindle]

I dont like upscaling in any game I tried it so far

[latent mural]

ah

I see

that's why you have no issues

[fickle ore]

No, frankly they do not. That's just a lack of skill wielding a low weight mouse and not having enough friction from Y mousepad, optimizing for critical damping. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Damping

[latent mural]

ok but some people still prefer heavier mice

[final flame]

preference matters most

[latent mural]

yeah

[final flame]

there is no objective mouse weight

[halcyon willow]

Shitty players after adding 50 grams of weights to their mice because of their Parkinson’s shakes

[latent mural]

all of this dogshit is irrelevant if i perform better with a heavier mouse

[fickle ore]

Maybe. Horses can go from A to B as well.

[latent mural]

I mean like i saw some people prefer 80 over 60g

which i think is fine

theres nothing wrong with that

if you compare 50g to 100g thats very different

[latent mural]

exactly

[halcyon willow]

Again, compensating

[final flame]

I play on a Mx master, the shape matters most of all

[latent mural]

compensating or not doesnt matter

the end result does

[fickle ore]

Maybe. You can try to calculate the error % and how much force is needed to stop X mouse at Y weight for a WANTED stop distance

The force matters, can your arm generate that kind of force in Y time?

[latent mural]

bro nobody is doing fucking nasa math when they choose a gaming mouse

[final flame]

none of this matters
the human body will adapt to whatever you fucking use

[latent mural]

they just choose what they are comfortable with

and thats how it ends

[fickle ore]

you know if you want to stop even m2k in 0 nanosecond it takes infinite energy?

[halcyon willow]

Thats why im immortal 3 in Val and they’re not

[latent mural]

weight is not objective and neither is shape

[halcyon willow]

They can choose to be garbage if they want, but they can look at the facts

[latent mural]

absolutely fair

[halcyon willow]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1086674331351920670/1136792333199888434/RPReplay_Final1691102633.mov

[final flame]

your body will naturally adapt to whatever you're using
it's impossible for a human to stop in 0 nanoseconds

[fickle ore]

Please, just try this calc for your favourite mice vs e.g zaunkoening or ULX
http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu/hbase/carcr2.html

[latent mural]

bro nobody is doing physics for a fucking mouse man

you can't say weight is objective

[fickle ore]

Lots of ppl do lol

[latent mural]

it is fucking not and never will be

[fickle ore]

True you're right is subjective bc people are different sized

[latent mural]

if someone likes heavier mice they will choose heavier mice

[fickle ore]

say 30g is same as 40 to someone bigger

[ashen spindle]

the real issue is you are not thinking outside fo the box of how to really incrase your performance

https://twitter.com/9550pro/status/1688128849077547008

HXL (@9550pro)

Water Cooling

Twitter · Aug 6, 2023, 10:04 AM

[final flame]

people who sit around all day doing physics calculations instead of playing the damn game to improve

[latent mural]

I had a VPU and a GPX (75 and 60g) and I chose the viper for gaming because the shape was better for me while for normal pc usage i chose the GPX

[latent mural]

gigachad

[fickle ore]

thats fucking genious

[latent mural]

not enough radiator? just flood the building

[halcyon willow]

Average custom loop enjoyer

[latent mural]

lmao

this reminds me i need a second pump because i have flow rate issues

[fickle ore]

Yep, but people are different like that. Some people enjoy optimizing more than gaming. For some there are not good enough games atm to play and they're waiting for something new. Etc.

[latent mural]

thats why its not objective

its subjective

[halcyon willow]

Glaxes might be upset

They should express that they are

https://tenor.com/view/one-two-three-four-miles-teller-andrew-whiplash-getting-slapped-gif-18304712

[latent mural]

he mentions he is an audiophile now im interested

what headphones and dac/amp u use

[halcyon willow]

Maybe she with the anime pfp

[final flame]

I use a focal clear and schiit stack

[latent mural]

nice

[final flame]

I also have a 6xx

[latent mural]

i have hd600s with hd650 cable and a dacmagic 200m

Might branch out and try different headphones

I wanted to give the LCD X a shot but they are too heavy

[final flame]

lcdx is nice but they need eq

[latent mural]

yeah i saw

the hifiman aryas are also pretty nice from what i saw on joshua valors channel

[final flame]

yea aryas are a good option too

[latent mural]

these hd600s are doing really well though

[fickle ore]

@final flame Here is m2k vs Razer Naga V2 Pro that I'm currently using. I'm not sure I can stop the naga at 1 cm. Definitely not for hours of gaming. What do you think?

[latent mural]

there is no clear upgrade path but other sound profiles would be nice to try

[halcyon willow]

Are the jubilees any good?

[latent mural]

do you have a phd?

[fickle ore]

no just a master's and definitely not from physics

[final flame]

Jubilees from my friends review are not very good, compared to the slightly more expensive 6xx

[analog sinew]

I approve of slugs as a weight unit

[halcyon willow]

Biased

[analog sinew]

you mean based and mollusk-pilled

[latent mural]

holy shit the keyboard is almost as wide as the monitor

this right here is why i stopped using 104 keyboards long ago

[analog sinew]

it's only 24"

[latent mural]

still

[analog sinew]

so not a big monitor

my old keyboard was slightly wider even

[latent mural]

thats the 2 he right?

[analog sinew]

yes

[latent mural]

good choice

[halcyon willow]

40% Wooting when

[analog sinew]

just tape several uwus togehter

[latent mural]

WASD only wooting when

[final flame]

I want to get into speakers as speakers will offer the best sound
probably going to get myself a pair of monitor audio bronze 100s and put them on stands

[halcyon willow]

Split ergo needed

[fair gull]

i somehow doubt your average movement speed is over 4m/s

[fickle ore]

True. Those are just flicks

Doubt I can even flick at 4.5 m/s on my naga lol

[fair gull]

i was about to say in some more dramatic situations maybe but usually youre way below such speeds

unless youre an osu gamer

maybe those mouse players get up to crazy accels

[fickle ore]

I'm consistently flicking at 4.5 m/s on something like 50 g mice from what I've benched on mousetester

but average speed is like 0.5-1 m/s

less for desktop

[fair gull]

benched while playing a game?

[final flame]

not to mention the higher the mouse dpi and sensitivity in game the less this will matter

[fickle ore]

ya

[final flame]

in fact if you're using high dpi you'd probably want something heavier

[halcyon willow]

3200 dpi, sub 50g mouse gang wya

[latent mural]

i use 1600 dpi on a 60g mouse

[fair gull]

1000dpi high weight gang

[halcyon willow]

🤢🤢

[final flame]

I use 800 on a 165g mouse

[latent mural]

165g???

what the fuck

[fair gull]

i still need to get a higher weight for mine as im at just 85g currently

[fickle ore]

It's the other way around, lower weight allows for higher dpi, but requires the tuning of damping/friction.
Low weight + high dpi + control pad basically

[fair gull]

ideally id want 120-140

[final flame]

Mx master 2s

[latent mural]

120 sure but 165

jesus

[halcyon willow]

That’s how I know you’re a shill

[latent mural]

oh

now that makes sense

i thought it was just a g502 with a gym weight strapped to it

[final flame]

idk man, I'd rather not have my view in game go all over the place due to a random muscle spasm
but that's just me

[fickle ore]

Yeah def not forcing you, Glaxes

[latent mural]

is it 3d printed or how did you get to 22?

[final flame]

in the end it all falls down to preference

[halcyon willow]

I’ve never gotten a spasm while playing

[latent mural]

oh

[halcyon willow]

V1?

Yeah but that weighs 24 doesn’t it

[latent mural]

@ me when a deathadder releases with 24-30g weight

[fickle ore]

@prisma crag I wonder whats the mass/volume of m2k vs ULX (lion) at 5% bigger than UL2/SL-12 small

[final flame]

@ me when logitech releases a gaming version of the mx master with all the same features and just a better sensor and lack of a soft touch finish

[halcyon willow]

Get a superlight and call it

[final flame]

I need my thumbrest

horizontal scroll

[halcyon willow]

I wanna be sodablasted

Grape Sprite flavor

[halcyon willow]

It’s called a light speed

G502

[final flame]

g502 doesn't have a gesture button or horizontal scroll

[halcyon willow]

You’re asking for too much

[analog sinew]

the g502x has sideways tilting scrollwheel

if that counts

[final flame]

eh, it's alright, won't be the same as a actual wheel

[fickle ore]

Naga V2 Pro has a wild wheel lol

96 steps per revolution

@final flame oh this has a horizonta too I think?

[halcyon willow]

Oops

Actually didn’t know thanks for teaching me

[final flame]

the only gaming mice that are relatively similar to the mx master are the
Basilisk and the G502x

I still would like a gesture button, as that's what allows me to navigate windows absurdly quick

[fickle ore]

acid etching should be even finer than bicarb, no? 😄

[halcyon willow]

What the fuck is a gesture button

[fickle ore]

but prob doesnt work that well on plastics hehehe

[halcyon willow]

Show us the mouse Glarses

[final flame]

the entire thumbrest is the button

that's the gesture button

[analog sinew]

almost bought that one

[final flame]

you hold it down and move your mouse in a direction to do a action

I personally like the older designs of the mx master
the kind of diamond pattern on it is nice

[fickle ore]

End Game Gear has new control pad that has japanese Poron base (like Artisan), if anyone's looking for control pads

[final flame]

I like the corsair ironclaw wireless shape, would be nice it it wasn't a flimsy piece of trash

[cursive summit]

I hope that it doesn't die someday

95 should be still like critical levels of normal

Ah no it keeps going up the bastard

Well AMD says below 110 is within spec so, must be normal then

[reef patrol]

[cursive summit]

My reaction when card catches fire from meltic plastic and PCB

But AMD said it was normal

[latent mural]

they said that on RDNA cards, that looks like an RX 5xx smth

and the only reason they said that is because they measure hotspot sensor

[cursive summit]

That is an RX 5700, brother

[latent mural]

ah ok

you are good then

[cursive summit]

I don't like this card tbf

[final flame]

at least amd admits it's normal smh

[cursive summit]

It's really good perf wise and extremely efficient

I even managed to somehow break it to the point it completely shuts down while not in use

So, 0W

But the occasional (once every quarter year or so) driver crashes are annoying

[latent mural]

do you have the reference edition?\

GN showed that the cooler on the stock one is unusable

[cursive summit]

The cooler's fine

It clearly sustains 100° under load

So what's wrong with reference eh?

[latent mural]

the reference blower cooler is terrible

its noisy and terrible temps

[cursive summit]

Do you own one?

Evidently not cause neither of your current claims hold weight when I own the card, and it's neither noisy nor the temps are bad

[latent mural]

https://youtu.be/-SAWtKEIYbw it is objectively terrible

https://youtu.be/Ud8Bco0dk6Q

[cursive summit]

I'm not even on the XT model you donut

There's the non-XT and the XT

[latent mural]

its the same thing man

[cursive summit]

Lol "same thing"

[latent mural]

they use the same cooler

[cursive summit]

Since when non-XT has a weird ass dent on its shroud?

XT was supposed to use a vapor chamber if I remember correctly

Non-XT does not

[cursive summit]

https://www.theregister.com/2023/08/04/linux_desktop_cloud_desktops/

Ehh

Article's a bit of a stretch

[cursive summit]

How was your anime fym

[thorn cypress]

how is it abysmal?

[cursive summit]

Problems of open source

Also I can't recall a single antivirus that's made for Linux that's good

Megumin is not lesbian

[thorn cypress]

relying on the source being closed is not a good practice

[cursive summit]

Sorry to ruin your konosuba experience

She's bi at best

It's not a new season, it's prequels

Which nobody asked for anyways

Who's ever said that open source is more secure than closed?

That's like the whole point of closed, nobody knows your secrets

*once, before useless

[thorn cypress]

didn't mean to say that it isn't abysmal if it seemed that way, just want to learn

she can still talk

[cursive summit]

Please don't find that relatable, please?

[thorn cypress]

what I meant is it shouldn't be an excuse to write bad code

[cursive summit]

Well, relying on the manufacturer not holding dark secrets with closed is something not really good

But closed is to remain industry standard

[thorn cypress]

yea of course

[cursive summit]

That'd be the opposite

You can exploit code deficiencies

I don't quite think having the code just open like a book is a good thing

[thorn cypress]

it's easier to find the exploits if the code is open source

[cursive summit]

And exploit them

The fact that Linux is also forked beyond belief is not a good thing either

Everyone's running a flavour of it

Sussy baka

Go to sleep

Got a keylogger on your system so I know when you stop typing

Common sense darling

[wheat plume]

https://youtu.be/dc8YhFjeKwc

🤔 👀

[analog sinew]

Sigma Browser Grindset

[wheat plume]

Why is a browser called OS?

This also looks exactly like Arc Browser

Webkit is open souce, funny enough...considering Apple make it

[halcyon moss]

Apple didn't want to start from Scratch, so they used khtml as base

Lana might not

Although she's been told several times :p

[cursive summit]

I'll give you a medium where there are no privacy issues

I know, it's hard to believe

[wheat plume]

.....khtml, fucking hell, I think Falkon browser still uses that

[cursive summit]

Absolutely no issues

@dawn epochTry this one day

Best search engine I have ever seen

No privacy issues

No getting hacked either

Other than getting hacked with an axe

That'd be.. worse than getting hacked on the internet

[cursive summit]

Skip the Witcher books

And I don't see why you'd buy mangas when they are all on mangadex

[ashen spindle]

if you have disposable money one should pay for other peoples work that you want to have

[cursive summit]

That's actually not necessarily how even the law works

A lot of works are not translated into other languages

And according to some kind of laws, prolly DMCA, they are freely hostable for free

As long there is no other way to obtain the manga

[ashen spindle]

what law are you on about

[latent mural]

the law of low iq

[astral haven]

thats very not true
its still not legal, its just not against the law of the country that the work hasnt been translated to
the us and japan are part of a treaty that means that IP laws from the country of origin of the IP apply to works not registered in other countries

the question of is a translated copy of the work transformative enough to turn it into a new work has been decisively stated to be not fair use

[ashen spindle]

it also really doesnt matter even if that was the law, as a decent human one should pay people for their work if you have money for it lol

[astral haven]

and that doesnt even matter because japan doesnt have fair use

[latent mural]

true

[astral haven]

yup
its unquestionably ethically wrong, however morally?

morals are by definition subjective...

[latent mural]

I can't comment on that as I lack morals and ethics

[astral haven]

ethics are objective, you cant lack them, just lack awareness of them

[latent mural]

i don't care about shit that doesn't affect me or the ones I care about

let's put it that way

[astral haven]

sure
but everything effects everyone in society eventually

and paying for works of art/IP is extremely direct

if you find it good enough to spend your time with it, you would likely want more of it to exist, and if you do not perform the exchange for it, more of the work is less likely to exist

[latent mural]

I was talking about stuff in general not this specifically

if you have the means to and you want to support anything go right ahead

[gusty kiln]

https://streamable.com/umi4kl

[astral haven]

lol

[latent mural]

I hope they atleast got to 45g with this thing now

[old marlin]

bet it is the same but 2khz

[indigo hull]

Come on man.. I rebought GPX.. a couple month ago... fk sake

[old marlin]

lol

[gusty kiln]

I've been holding off for years with my viper ultimate

[fickle ore]

double packets

[old marlin]

eh

I would be surprised if it isn't true 2khz

would be funny if it was fake though

[fickle ore]

yeah just saying it would be funny

[gusty kiln]

Wonder if optical switches

[old marlin]

D2FP

would be funny at least

[gusty kiln]

The g502x have opticals

[old marlin]

yes

worst opticals around

they ping a TON

[gusty kiln]

Ah rip

[old marlin]

that is why both asus and corsair stopped using them

ig logitech didn't wanna redo the g502X again

[gusty kiln]

I enjoy the revised v2 optical on my rvu

[old marlin]

ig there was a mechanical switch version

without powerplay

[old marlin]

the V2 and V3 ones are just tighter tolerances

which were a problem on the v1

mind you cooler master uses an unmodified version of that switch

[latent mural]

they cant do that

thats illegal

[old marlin]

bruh

it is literally in their FCC docs

either 2khz or double packets

[latent mural]

give me a rope

[old marlin]

aka the fake 2khz that corsair for example did

[latent mural]

fake 2khz?

[old marlin]

yea they just send a fake packet

so it looks like 2khz

[latent mural]

🗿

[old marlin]

not aware of any mouse that actually does 2khz so far

[latent mural]

why is tech such a joke nowadays

[old marlin]

[astral haven]

m2k does true 2khz

[old marlin]

most of them just go for 4khz or 8khz

[old marlin]

yea but is not capped at 2khz

there are a number of mice that do 2khz but not as a maximum or out of the box

[astral haven]

but if it was wireless it probably couldnt do more

[old marlin]

razer does 4khz wireless

compx does with nordic chips as well

[latent mural]

Nvidia-all gpus besides the 4090 suck, AMD-cpus explode, Intel-cpus draw as much power as a 3090, Logitech-stagnation, Apple-same phone for 5 years

like holy shit

[old marlin]

the viper mini signature edition actually does 8khz

[astral haven]

well to be fair to apple they did add satellite

[latent mural]

yeah thats not available in the EU

thank you tim apple

[astral haven]

i stand corrected

[old marlin]

AMD CPUs don't explode anymore

lol

was an issue for a short while

[latent mural]

thats irrelevant

[old marlin]

that mainly affected asus having shitty bios

(shocker)

[astral haven]

mainly

[latent mural]

actually is tbh

if i expected someone not to have those issues its asus

[old marlin]

[astral haven]

shouldnt be a shocker

[old marlin]

really should not be

[astral haven]

asus auto volts is a meme

[latent mural]

my b550 asus bios is almost perfect, idk abt the overvolt shit tho

[old marlin]

new plattform usually already tends to mean that all manus basically rng their bios

and now asrock is top dog from what I know

not like it matters much with am5

[gusty kiln]

I like my asrock boards

[latent mural]

thank god i bought a 5800x3d

[gusty kiln]

I would get a B650E taichi if I upgraded to 7000

[latent mural]

i just hope todd howard releases starfield in a good enough state that a 3090ti can atleast do 1080p 60 fps

[latent mural]

does it have 3 m.2 slots?

[pale sigil]

Part of me still considers one of those

[latent mural]

just do it

[pale sigil]

They are getting cheaper every month

[latent mural]

i bought mine for 300

[pale sigil]

I have a 5600x

[latent mural]

it was 20% faster than my 5950x in gaming

[astral haven]

and id get the one asrock w790 if i upgraded my cpu

[fickle ore]

razer doesnt do 8khz? wat

[old marlin]

wireless only on the vmse

[astral haven]

keep reading ye

[fickle ore]

ye ofc

[fickle ore]

ulx 8khz wireless 😄

[old marlin]

which is a mouse you can't just buy

would not trust finalmouse

[latent mural]

i wonder if any of you can actually tell between 1 or 8k

[old marlin]

not blindly especially

[fickle ore]

ye just a benefit of doubt

waiut

gotta show u

[astral haven]

i can easily
when my computer is lagging to death its 8khz 🤣

[gusty kiln]

Yeah, 1gen5 and 2gen4

[latent mural]

i wanna move to nvme only so that's why, but thats good

[gusty kiln]

5800x3d gang

[old marlin]

gen 5 nvme so far is a big meme ngl

[gusty kiln]

I also got some b-die recently too for my x3d

[latent mural]

im doing really badly on storage,(the 200gb ones are satas) and my nvme is a 970 evo plus

i want a 990 pro 2tb and a 980 pro 500gb for a boot drive

[pale sigil]

Ye I stopped all that

[fickle ore]

@old marlin

[pale sigil]

Just got a 2tb ssd

[old marlin]

nvme overall is kinda unecessary for most stuff

[pale sigil]

1tb nvme for os

[latent mural]

no its not

[old marlin]

that is not a product that someone unrelated has

finalmouse claims a lot of shit

[old marlin]

it is for most people and usecases

[latent mural]

finalmouse claims that the ULX will actually be available

i'd love to see that

[latent mural]

i'm not most people

[old marlin]

especially if it is not your bootdrive

oh yea I am sure you will need it for your data influx buffer

so you can do compute much faster

[fickle ore]

need to run that by fiend

or was it in sc

[latent mural]

I don't need it, I want it

[old marlin]

or for your 8k raw video scrubbing

[astral haven]

it is helpful in every scenario that has data that is accessed randomly

[old marlin]

or for your stupid large renders

[old marlin]

it is marginally useful for most people

[astral haven]

now the amount by which it is helpful is limited, but actually the smaller each part of data is the more useful it is

[old marlin]

if you really think that cutting a 20 second load time to 19.5 is useful then sure

[astral haven]

with modern huge games you can often see huge popin issues on sata

[old marlin]

show me

[latent mural]

especially ratchet and clank

[old marlin]

would be news to me

[astral haven]

have you played star citizen?

[gusty kiln]

I'm still on all sata

[old marlin]

ah yes

the direct storage game

[old marlin]

is it released yet?

[latent mural]

it wont ever be released

starfield will eat it alive anyways

[fickle ore]

nvm, rvmse is 8khz wireless

[astral haven]

nah its in perpetual development

[old marlin]

it won't ever be finished

eternal money sink

[old marlin]

that is what I said

[pale sigil]

I want srarfield to suck

But also don't

It's annoying

[old marlin]

why would you lol

[latent mural]

how is it annoying

[old marlin]

idk I expect like fallout 4 in space

[latent mural]

why would you expect fallout 4 in space

[gusty kiln]

Xbox game pass gets Starfield

[old marlin]

cause it looks like that

[latent mural]

I'm getting the 5 day early one from steam

[pale sigil]

Because it looks ass

[latent mural]

have you played fallout 4?

[pale sigil]

But good at the same time

Yes

It's ass

Belongs in 2010

[latent mural]

fallout 4 is worse than the older games but thats just edgy hating

[old marlin]

eh

[pale sigil]

It's not edgy hating

[old marlin]

would not say clearly worse

better shooter

worse rpg

[astral haven]

but thats implying the older games hold up on their own too

[latent mural]

and worse performance

[old marlin]

yea no shit

[pale sigil]

I don't understand why people have such a boner for Bethesda games

[astral haven]

^

[latent mural]

mine dips into the 20s easily because its cpu bound

[old marlin]

cause you are kinda limited in options for open world rpgs

[pale sigil]

F4 was abysmal, it looked ugly, the combat was god awful, the engine was hot garbage, the mechanics were old and all sorts

[latent mural]

because Skyrim is goated

[astral haven]

they are fine and theres plenty of time to waste in them, but they arent that fun

[old marlin]

people also have a boner for witcher 3 and cyberpunk

[pale sigil]

was

[latent mural]

it still is

[old marlin]

wdym combat was god awful

do you think of 76

[pale sigil]

It's probably the last game that was actually decent

[astral haven]

there is no chance that its in the top 10

[latent mural]

Skyrim with mods still holds up very well

[pale sigil]

Animations, the gun control etc

[latent mural]

its my favorite game of all time

[pale sigil]

Felt horrible

Genuinely could not stand it.

[astral haven]

thats like saying quake (original) still holds up in modern shooters because csgo is on the same engine lol

[latent mural]

what

[astral haven]

well teeeeechnically csgo is a mod of a mod of a mod of a mod of a mod of original quake

[old marlin]

tbh I don't see how improving those would actually help the combat

[astral haven]

therefore quake still holds up

[latent mural]

I don't think you understood what i meant

[old marlin]

imo it is limited by it relying on numbers a whole lot

so they can't just give you a good feeling shotgun

[latent mural]

Skyrim has a shit ton of gameplay mods that can give new life in to the game and the quests are really good

[pale sigil]

Idk, it's hard to describe, I just feel like it's sluggish and horrible feeling wise.

Or well old

Even though it's a "modern" game

[astral haven]

alright but the game itself is rather dead

[latent mural]

dead?

[astral haven]

you can bring your own fun, but otherwise its just a place

[latent mural]

it has 250h of content in it

[pale sigil]

Fallout 76 was peak Bethesda.

[latent mural]

LOL

[astral haven]

the encyclopedia has 20k+ hours of content in it lmao

[latent mural]

i think you are actually braindead

[pale sigil]

Now that was me baiting and trolling.

[astral haven]

do you not enjoy reading the encyclopedia?

[pale sigil]

Lol

[latent mural]

You should say that Fallout 76 is their best running game with no bugs

that would've just taken the shit

i need to rewatch the Internet Historian video on it

[astral haven]

i mean when i think of bethesda thats what i think of

[old marlin]

making it feel tight would make balance very hard

like if they just gave you movement and weapon handling from bl2 making somewhat okay ai would be hard

[pale sigil]

I really wanted to be optimistic for starfield and I was up until they originally announced it was using the garbage engine.

I don't have much faith despite footage

[latent mural]

it is not using the same engine

as Skyrim and Fo4

it's using a new version of it

[pale sigil]

I enjoyed prey

Tbh

[pale sigil]

Um

[astral haven]

prey was a fantastic game

[pale sigil]

Bud

Lol

[latent mural]

I hope they don't add Denuvo to it and I hope modders get in quick

[astral haven]

but it was not made by bethesda

[pale sigil]

Newer version of an engine is not a new engine

[astral haven]

well unless it is

[pale sigil]

Ik

[pale sigil]

[latent mural]

why do i expect good takes out of an anime pfp

[astral haven]

not all drawings are anime lol

[pale sigil]

It's cartoon

Not anime

But yes Carmonben is correct

[latent mural]

that's even worse

[pale sigil]

I mean

I've clearly hit a nerve lol

[old marlin]

I mean the engine apparently was mostly redone

[pale sigil]

We'll see.

[astral haven]

yea the engine is very obviously improved

but the question is how bethesda will it be

[old marlin]

Ship of theseus engine

[pale sigil]

I'll genuinely be happy to backtrack everything and take a if I'm wrong.

[astral haven]

my problem however with bethesda and many of the very open games is the content is actually not interesting

like theres a ton of content

and its all quality

but its all boring

[old marlin]

I mean i would bet on the gunplay being very similar to fo4

Which i would be fine with

If the rpg part of the game is good

[latent mural]

I hope they atleast gave it more variance

[astral haven]

see but variations on tedium is still tedium

[latent mural]

they better not go on their twitter and change the game from RPG to Action Adventure 6 hours before launch like CDPR did

[astral haven]

cyperbunk is more rpg than skyrim tho

[latent mural]

??????

[astral haven]

like you can actually be different characters

[old marlin]

Is it

[latent mural]

what the fuck

[old marlin]

I mean

[astral haven]

and i dont just mean game statistically

[old marlin]

Bl2 is more rpg than cyberpunk is

Lol

[astral haven]

i mean in regards to the story

[latent mural]

Cyberpunk is not even that rpg

[old marlin]

role play wise ig

yea

[astral haven]

no but at least theres more than 1 option of what role to play

[old marlin]

idk cyberpunk just hits a different niche imo

different kind of character development

[latent mural]

almost none of ur choices matter, the characters are goofy asf, the story is fucking carried by silverhand

[old marlin]

perks of not being a silent protagonist

[astral haven]

except for the choice of uh how the entire game plays out?

[latent mural]

you have no choice in that

[astral haven]

now to be fair its not as many ways as witcher 3 or especially witcher 2

but there are actual differences to how the game ends

there are entire parts of the story that can be missed

[old marlin]

I mean skyrim always plays out the same

[astral haven]

yep
the exact mechanic you use to apply the dammage changes but eh

[old marlin]

not like it matters much

with the weak final boss

[astral haven]

yep
and cyperbunk has the same issue of weak final boss unless you input the konami code or some shit, but the missions you will have played through to get to the end will likely be at least slightly different from everyone else

i spent significantly more time in skyrim trying to find fun, but it just didnt happen
it was like an hour or 2 of fun, and a hundred or 2 of tedium

cyperbunk was around 20 of fun and 20 of tedium id say

[old marlin]

you at least have a lot more flavor besides the main story

main story is paced pretty badly towards the end

would be my main gripe

[astral haven]

yea but in skyrim the flavor of the randomly generated quests is that of salted cardboard

the filler in cyberpunk isnt fantastic, but its better than that by far

again bethesdas games are great because you can bring your own fun
but if thats not the experience you want or expect from a game, they will disappoint you like they did for me

[old marlin]

at some point people have to accept that certain games are the peak of what will ever be made that would be similar to them

I very much doubt that we will ever get another good borderlands game for example

or anything similar

[astral haven]

something similar will happen eventually

we may not survive that long (personally or as a species lol)

[old marlin]

new good borderlands game vs entropy

[thick elk]

Skyrim mostly was a sandbox with indeed a very bad main story.

[astral haven]

it may not be called borderlands, but theres always something to pick up the slack

[old marlin]

is there really

[astral haven]

eventually

[thick elk]

Played more timing tuning it with mods than actually playing it.
Borderlands I enjoyed the first one but 2 was kind of meh and then I kind of stopped.

[old marlin]

thing is the other stuff was just stumbling around into dungeons or a longer quest line

[old marlin]

I got like ~100 hours in bl1

and 340 in 2

[thick elk]

I honestly think it would have been a better game with a smaller or more sparse world and higher quality content.

skyrim that is.

[old marlin]

yea

cause the dungeons were kinda eh

very copy paste

fallout 4 imo does a little better in that regard

the stuff you stumble into tends to be more interesting

[thick elk]

Yea it does.

Still in general I feel like there is nothing wrong with having a smaller more elaborate world.
Or if you go big, just have it as landscape to traverse through for scale and some enemy encounters along the way.

[old marlin]

yea

cyberpunk had a lot less area than skyrim

but a lot denser filled

[thick elk]

It's still on my backlog, should play it someday.

[astral haven]

and it didnt feel substantially smaller if you include the outskirts of town

[old marlin]

you barely were in the outskirts though

[astral haven]

i spent a while exploring the areas around cyberpunk on my own, and while i called it tedium it was somewhat fun

each area had its own character really

[old marlin]

is it pi 4s

[thick elk]

usb 3 ports

[empty wren]

Yes

[thick elk]

Only introduced on the pi 4 so there is that

[old marlin]

yum

[thick elk]

Either way it seems like these scooters smell of start up money and not a lot of optimizing at scale, probably all off-the-shelve parts.

[final flame]

why tf would people have buyers remorse by buying the peerless assasin

[analog sinew]

the video won't get clicked without clickbait

it has to be this way

so the title is bullshit

and should just be "new peerless assassin better blah blah"

[pale sigil]

I enjoy mine

And this video doesn't bother me or the title

[final flame]

Ironically the peerless assasin is still cheaper on amazon for me lol

[pale sigil]

I'm genuinely glad I got this cooler

[fair gull]

how so their darwin/xnu kernel is also open source i believe link

[pale sigil]

I was genuinely impressed with it

I got the white one

Never going back to aio, then again I said that before when I went to noctua

Tbh

It just made sense with how good it was

For me

I was ready to get a noctua again

Huh?

I was going to go back to noctua because of my past experience

I loved my dh15

Not sure what you mean by fomo

Im still confused

Ah

[final flame]

could use that for any company that has a loyal following

[pale sigil]

I would love to go back to AMD

If there's a huge reason I won't

[final flame]

sadly I need my cuDNN

[pale sigil]

I can't afford it and I have a 3080

[astral haven]

yea nvidia has their hooks in me too
broadcast, optix, dlss

[analog sinew]

please tell me this is photoshopped

[pale sigil]

I forgot about broadcast

I rely on that so much omg

Optix?

[astral haven]

for rendering

[final flame]

nvidia 3d vision 💀

[astral haven]

rip

[final flame]

I never messed around with it
I also have one of the first 3d vision monitors

[astral haven]

i have one that is capable but ive never used it

[final flame]

same

[astral haven]

ive used tridef vr to use 3dvision titles with a vr headset tho

[final flame]

starting to see the reason why it got killed off

[astral haven]

its actually awesome tho my computer at the time could not run an entire aaa game + 3d vision + vr on top of it

its such a shame that freesync is so much less stable than gsync tho 😦

[final flame]

nvidia lightboost, idk what that even was set to accomplish

[astral haven]

precursor to ulmb

but also compatible with gsync

its extremely awesome, it was the first sync + blur reduction

and still one of the only ways to do that still

it obviously had the strobe problem, but well thats how it be

[halcyon moss]

It was just already a Vesa standard

[astral haven]

yea i cant fault amd, its nvidias fault that they never bothered to make asics or make gsync a standard

it wasnt freesync tho

it was hdmi vrr

[silent oracle]

Help

reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

[ashen spindle]

I have no clue what you want so cant help

[fair gull]

we dont sell skill

[silent oracle]

my fps is locked at 120 fps

i got a new monitor

[fair gull]

tell windows about the fps to use for your monitor

[silent oracle]

?

im trying to figure out the damn fps lock

[fair gull]

win key + i

[silent oracle]

i usually have it on but this thing is making me mad

[fair gull]

go to display settings

check it even knows the fps of your monitor

you dont play with 2000fps menus?

smh

[thick elk]

Just wondering you don't have vsync on right?

[silent oracle]

vsync is not on

disabled in the nvidia control panel i think

so it wont work anyways lel

[fair gull]

i mean a good next step is to play good games

[silent oracle]

https://tenor.com/view/duck-gif-26090688

and he waddle away waddle waddle

actually tho im not liking how this works

[fair gull]

have you tried playing pokemon go?

[silent oracle]

yes

[severe phoenix]

Ok I'll have to correct you here

Freesync is just VRR

AMD didn't develop freesync

It just labeled HDMI VRR as FreeSync

[astral haven]

no

[silent oracle]

https://tenor.com/view/help-help-funny-gif-25988207

[astral haven]

its vesa adaptive sync

[severe phoenix]

There was no development on AMDS part

Yeah

AMD just branded a standard as their own

[astral haven]

they somehow shoved vesa adaptive sync into an hdmi port for pc monitors

[severe phoenix]

They didn't put in any of the legwork

[astral haven]

well they did

its actually not easy to tune a display controller

and they did take part in developing the standard into products

its not like nvidia where they reinvented the wheel ofc

[thick elk]

Nvidia always introduces their features vendor locked, the only way they could do that is when they had a display controller as well. Hence the gsync module.

[astral haven]

They could however have licensed it to display controller manufacturers...

[severe phoenix]

And GSync is still superior. FreeSync is a mess.

GSync can do down to 1HZ. FreeSync can mean anything

You can have FreeSync ranges of 100-144HZ

Or 60-144

or 30-144, if yer lucky

But it's very random and you can't know

[astral haven]

And gsync guarantees variable overdrive

[severe phoenix]

FreeSync Premium also doesn't mean anything. There's some of those that claim 30-whatever max refresh rate is

But when if you actually test it, it's like 80 minimum refresh rate

SpecialK can expose the actual minimum refresh rate VRR is active at

Instead of what that displayID says

[astral haven]

To be fair, gsync repeats frames under 30hz

[severe phoenix]

Yeah

[thick elk]

I can fault them for Freesync premium but free sync is nothing more than AMD branding on adaptive sync, it has no real requirements.

[severe phoenix]

But,

[astral haven]

But it does it on the monitor side not the gpu

[severe phoenix]

A lot of 60-240HZ FreeSync displays double anything under 102HZ

[astral haven]

That's a problem tho

[thick elk]

So what are the differences in requirements between freesync and gsync compatible

[severe phoenix]

With FreeSync you never know if you're gonna get a good display or crap display without reviews. With normal GSync you know you're gonna get 60HZ min. With PRemium, 30HZ min and using LFC down to 1HZ

[astral haven]

Nvidia gsync compatible at least guarantees a not atrocious experience, but they didn't try very hard so that their true gsync would still have an edge

[astral haven]

I thought all gsync modules guarantee down to 0

[severe phoenix]

Maybe they updated that

I know Gsync Ultimate goes down 1

to 1*

[astral haven]

And gsync compatible requires below 60 tho not necessarily below 48

[severe phoenix]

GSync ultimate is pretty great yeah

Pricey to be sure, but you know it's gonna be a great experience

[astral haven]

Ultimate is supposedly just hdr

Using the new more expensive module

[silent oracle]

i have a question
so if i use a display port can my monitor run up to 165 hz unlike the hdmi where it can be only be set to 144hz? (my monitor support 165hz)

[severe phoenix]

Y eah my Alienware OLED is Ultimate, using SpecialK I can actually confirm it goes down to 10HZ natively before LFC / Frame doubling kicks in

Which is impressive

[astral haven]

Yeah
And my almost 10 year old Asus with the original gsync module can sync down to zero, the lfc kicks on somewhere presumably under 20

[severe phoenix]

https://www.reddit.com/r/MouseReview/comments/15js7wa/logitech_g_pro_x_superlight_2_fresh_leak/

[astral haven]

"this is not how the bearing is supposed to look under normal operation"

Wow no shit Martin lol

[thick elk]

Well reading the manual is hard it seems

[simple steeple]

There's also added latency with monitors that have a gsync module

[astral haven]

Yes and no

They introduce some latency like all LCD controllers
But they also allow you to do some tricks to reduce latency

The brain to brain feedback loop through mouse and computer and monitor and eye is quicker on a synced display, and the lowest latency way to avoid tearing is through gsync

Scan line sync is better but it's also extremely intensive on the computer as well as being banned from most competitive games

[crisp granite]

@ashen spindle...

deckard?

[ashen spindle]

there is a meta vr event soonish

and we got index during one so

thats best copium I can offer

[crisp granite]

many thanks for copium

date of meta event?

[ashen spindle]

uhh one sec

September 27 - 28

[cursive summit]

https://videocardz.com/newz/amd-radeon-rx-7900-gre-is-now-available-for-e999-in-germany-comes-with-a-full-pc

Comes with a full PC?

Buy a GRE, get a PC

[ashen spindle]

you mean like I already posted here xD

[cursive summit]

Sorry boss, don't remember what we did 3 days ago

[crisp granite]

um...

damn

that ain't bad
at all

[cursive summit]

That in fact is really good

I tried configuring a custom PC a few weeks back, a full rig was well above 1 grand, and with a worse GPU

Here the main questions are obviously, how shit the PSU is, how bad is the case, how bad is the SSD, etc

[ashen spindle]

I would also like some bencmarks of the card first

havent seen any yet

and some china video I cant readt doesnt tell me what I want to know

[cursive summit]

Do a favour for all of us and buy it

[ashen spindle]

nah HUB said they have a card coming

[severe phoenix]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/602362713863094322/1137918143667392562/awZ8518_460swp.png

[astral haven]

-_- literally just the business world being years behind the consumers on really obvious stuff

[misty saffron]

why the fuck can’t android phones have good haptic feedback

genuine question

why has apple come up with their shit ages ago and we still get $0.01 vibration motors in android phones

[empty wren]

Higher end ones do

Interesting

[misty saffron]

still not even close

[empty wren]

What device?

[misty saffron]

last time i touched a samsung fold something i was disgusted

[empty wren]

I guess a thing to consider is another one could do it justice. Since one screen probably has some feels on it and on top of that it is strongest in one spot

Might also not help they are using a lot of plastic on the front🤷

[astral haven]

the problem is the iphone haptic is so insanely weak despite how huge it is

sure its precise

but i cant feel it

[empty wren]

It also got downsized after the 8

[astral haven]

my samsung i can hear

[misty saffron]

what still is a mystery is why even budget phone manufacturers are refusing to spend an extra couple of cents per unit

[astral haven]

afaik they made it slightly stronger and it more changed shape than pure volume

[astral haven]

bigger problem is the tradeoff

the thing the iphones have is almost speaker level

like maybe up to 100hz

[astral haven]

nowhere near as good as the steam controller ofc but they are working on it

[misty saffron]

one of tens of thousands, excellent

[astral haven]

thats a $600+ phone lol

[misty saffron]

that is also an issue

[empty wren]

Yes but at least it trickles into midrange

[astral haven]

well its also ostensibly one of the best examples of companies trying to improve

thing is

[empty wren]

Eventually maybe even that crappy $100 Amazon phone will get it

[astral haven]

an actual motor with a mass on the end will do the job better than the iphones

despite feeling worse to type with

[empty wren]

Definitely a lot louder

[misty saffron]

the fact budget phones sound like fucking bees

[astral haven]

tbh the iphone is shockingly loud for the lack of vibration i feel

[misty saffron]

(a phone shouldn’t sound like a bee, generally)

[astral haven]

per unit amount of energy put into my leg i suspect most are around the same level

[astral haven]

its literally trying to vibrate and thats the definition of sound

[empty wren]

Mine is pretty strong my buddy said it felt stronger compared to his iPhone 12

[misty saffron]

my ages old iphone also vibrates, yet it can click and not sound like a bee

[astral haven]

yes but your ages old iphone (presumeably) doesnt transmit as much feeling into a leg if its in a pocket as those bee sounding ones

if apple had it in the past and just didnt have it in their new stuff that would be awful

[empty wren]

Or if they removed like 3d touch

[misty saffron]

that is true, don’t think i’ve ever had an issue identifying something has vibrated though

[misty saffron]

3d touch is asshole ux design, honestly glad it’s gone

[astral haven]

yea my legs arent particularly sensitive (i guess), so its a bigger problem for me

[empty wren]

Some people loved it but alright a lot of people had no idea it existed

[astral haven]

and my s21 has a horrific bee problem if its on a table without a case and vibrates

when its in the case tho i can put it on my bedside table and it will actually vibrate my bed

[empty wren]

Could also depend on clothing layers or thickness

[astral haven]

my pockets are very thin

i only buy 1 type of pants and 1 type of shorts

i can just barely feel the iphone if its pressing against something, if im walking theres no chance

my samsung ive missed once or twice but its more rare

[empty wren]

Some company I remember made two variants of a phone one had an x and another z one of them did not transfer much energy to sound

[misty saffron]

that’s one pro of having hairy as fuck legs i guess

[astral haven]

what?

not feeling phone isnt a pro?

[empty wren]

https://youtu.be/2P04sDs6eJo

[misty saffron]

was referring to not looking the greatest in shorts due to a fucking jungle on my legs, guess i have to appreciate it now

[astral haven]

i just avoid caring outside of work, and at work its supposed to be business attire anyways

[astral haven]

thing is tho i dont really care about how well it vibrates on a table
if it shakes up and down in my pocket i may actually be able to feel it i dunno

[empty wren]

Fair enough

Also hollow one more thing to this is how the manufacturer implements vibrations to the ui

Android manufacturers vary these

iOS might have it implemented across the UI far more or like how iOS had the vibrator linked to ringtone song that was only a recent addition to stock android.

[lethal barn]

building a new pc

motherboard manual says to plug power cable from aio into w_pump+ header on mobo whereas the manual for the aio says to plug it into the cpu_fan header

[raw zephyr]

follow the aio manual

[lethal barn]

okay ty

[old marlin]

no it's not

it's 300-350€

[astral haven]

Hunh
It's $450
Must have been thinking of a different phone

[old marlin]

450 msrp?

it was at msrp for a whopping 2 days here

actually a good phone

am considering switching to it since miui pisses me off so much

[halcyon willow]

Anyone excited for the iPhone 15?

[raw zephyr]

what's gonna be different from iphone 14 pro

[crimson wigeon]

It's one more

[lethal barn]

Cable management is gonna be a bitch

But here she is

[halcyon willow]

Bro got his hands on the new cable free GPUs

[lethal barn]

Yessir

4K hz wireless polling

[halcyon willow]

Also fuck you

This shit looks amazing bro good job

That anime pfp could change but you’re making progress

[sinful drum]

Only 1 aio fan?

[reef patrol]

There are two though?

[sinful drum]

Oh wait to they stacked behind

Ah

Why not on the bottom?

Actually I’m dumb

[lethal barn]

not dumb

actually right

it won't be complete for a while

I bought two 140 fans for the top and a 120 for the back but the motherboard is too close to the top and blocks the second 140 fan

so im gonna return them and the 120 and get a 3 pack of 120s which will all fit

cant mount any on the bottom sadly

[reef patrol]

One thing though

Might want to avoid bubbling.

[halcyon willow]

What about tube routing of 4 with rad placement of 2

[fair gull]

sounds like 1

[halcyon willow]

Sorry I meant 2

[lethal barn]

I had my last cooler mounted like that with no problems but Ye I’ve heard of that

[fair gull]

the point of 4 is the tubing being at the top

which you dont want

[lethal barn]

The clearance is awful with it at the bottom and it can’t be top mounted

[halcyon willow]

Just have your PC upside down

[fair gull]

tbf that would fix it

if you use your pc upside down from its build orientation it would invert the image

[halcyon willow]

I don’t understand

[fair gull]

you dont want air bubbles to rise into where the tubing is or the block

[halcyon willow]

That’s why I’m never water cooling

Fuck allat

[fair gull]

how so its very simple really with AiOs

[halcyon willow]

Wait, what about if your PC is small

And the loop is on its side

Like how I have mine mounted

[fair gull]

good question i wouldnt know nor do i build SFFs ever again

broke my fingers once that was enough

[halcyon willow]

Wait what lol

Spill the tea

[fair gull]

build an sff and you know the pain

of cramming, not being able to reach some areas easily

squishing AiO tubes when closing

crying you might have broken it

and then it somehow turns on and works

[halcyon willow]

That’s the fun of it

[fair gull]

no i like midi and fullsize cases

[halcyon willow]

That’s disgusting

You’re telling me that hotbox isn’t sexy?

[old marlin]

SFF is so stupid to me

like just chuck fuckoff large under desk

problem solved

you get actualyl good temps and noise

and don't have to dread the next gpu gen to be too big to fit

[halcyon willow]

Sounds like you can’t tune a fan curve

[old marlin]

sounds like I don't need to tune a fan curve

[halcyon willow]

😂😂 fair enough

[old marlin]

I already deal with enough PC bs at work

don't wanna do it at home

just needs to work

[halcyon willow]

You mean to tell me you don’t like excruciatingly tight fits, near impossible cable management, easily stripped screws and painful disassembly for simple parts?

[reef patrol]

I thought I did - Until I had to actually do it

[somber ridge]

https://tenor.com/view/1310filmz-13filmz-pjmfilmz-jimimkitty-gif-22693891

[old marlin]

no, not really

[halcyon willow]

Missing out lol

[reef patrol]

https://twitter.com/DFVIDTUTS/status/1688403050149384193

Captain_Duck🇳🇱 (@DFVIDTUTS)

Im building a comp for a friend and lol, there is a Erp Ready button in this msi bios

Twitter · Aug 7, 2023, 4:13 AM

[halcyon willow]

Erotic roleplay?

[final flame]

msi be wildin with the dragon mascot

[cursive summit]

https://www.techpowerup.com/312122/psa-intel-graphics-drivers-now-collect-telemetry-by-default

[cursive summit]

https://news.yahoo.com/us-scientists-repeat-fusion-power-195334524.html

[severe phoenix]

https://www.reddit.com/r/MouseReview/comments/15ki1tv/alza_listed_logitech_pro_x_superlight_2_for_169/

[simple steeple]

Interesting, wonder if it's gonna be more that a USB-C port conversion over the original

I'm sure marketing wise they'll say it's much better

[severe phoenix]

I mean it'd probably be 8KZ given the year

[median hull]

Is there any possible way to make the wooting 60he faster?