and if the input latency is known, they can also project forward through that like on the index and quest
#🔌│tech
astral haven
not only does dlss3 not project forward, it seems to actually intentionally delay by 1 frame!!!
now sure its the best option available for flatscreen games
but theres nothing SOTA about it, its a worse solution than what was SOTA in vr 10 years ago!!!
dlss2 is at least the highest fidelity upscaler that runs in under 30ms, and it runs over 30x faster than that
and that includes cutting edge research
astral haven
named it after his son lmao
ashen spindle
thought it was the status of his wife
also I guess I would probably dlss2 if I had a a weaker gpu but for me I prefer not seeing the artifacts but it's close to useable for me
astral haven
to be fair to you, dlss is easier to see on 1440p
its much better for 4k and above
benefits are reduced lower the res
but with 1080p dying a quick death for anyone with a gpu, 1440p will not be far behind
4k144 is now sometimes available for 500!
astral haven
thats ultra omega not enforceable lmao
frozen ingot
Elon wants "the everything app"
he's getting nothing, its just going to keep sinking
he's just too much of a stupid fucking egomaniac to realize it
astral haven
🤷 cant rebuild a ship while its still floating
fickle ore
thats ultra omega not enforceable lmao
should've bought the domain atleast then elon would pay me 1 bil
astral haven
he's just too much of a stupid fucking egomaniac to realize it
he realized its stupid to use twitter as the base, but it was too late to shut his big fat mouth and he got lawyered into buying it
then once he got in he realized there wasnt anything salvageable so hes just scrapping twitter basically and just mouthing off about not
astral haven
should've bought the domain atleast then elon would pay me 1 bil
x.com would have been so insanely expensive to begin with already
fickle ore
x.com would have been so insanely expensive to begin with already
yea, wonder who owns it rn
ah
truth but it may become x'sing
fml
hope it doesnt bring meta down
astral haven
to begin with tho, those single letter and most 2 letter Domains on .com up to probably 3 letters probably over a million
most 4 letters are probably over 100k even if they dont already have a meaning
fickle ore
Is owning a domain pita?
astral haven
no its easy, but if someone already has it, its expensive asf
floatplane.com was 6 digits
fickle ore
where do you even buy
astral haven
carmonben.com was $12
fickle ore
carmonben.com was $12
rip
astral haven
nah thats just the cost of registering
costs a minimum of like $7 per year for a .com
astral haven
where do you even buy
cloudflare, google domains, godaddy for the ones that arent rare
for the rare stuff there are probably specialty sites
fickle ore
If you forget to pay for it it can be sniped rite?
astral haven
ofc
astral haven
obviously
reef patrol
So...business as usual?
ashen spindle
I mean, you'd have to compare to what they did for the first iphone
astral haven
i didnt think apple provided dev kits for anything?
buy a mac and emulate it
astral haven
only dev kit im aware of in recent memory is m1 mini devkit
ashen spindle
you cant really emulate stuff for the vision that well on monitor
astral haven
you cant really emulate iphone that well on monitor yet thats apple's solution
astral haven
Especially devkits.
yea im more shocked by the devkit itself
ashen spindle
I mean you can emulate touch inputs and resolution and thus most functionality
as well as gyro
but the rendering is the same, unlike for this
astral haven
the rendering is an m1 chip
remember they already have a dev environment you can play around with
i figured that would have been it
ashen spindle
the X1 tracking and the rendering with passthotugh likely works differently
astral haven
they dont have 6dof hand tracking
astral haven
the X1 tracking and the rendering with passthotugh likely works differently
so fix the emulation lol
ashen spindle
dont think the x1 is elsewhere so if you can access that you need devices for it
ashen spindle
was it r1? yeah might be
ashen spindle
maybe its sold so poorly apple felt inclined to push devkits
bit unlikely since you cant pre order it yet
astral haven
^
ashen spindle
early 24 was the announcement for pre orders
frozen ingot
why they waiting til the hype has died down
ashen spindle
biggest thing they are waiting for is being able to make the thing
astral haven
^
currently they are running into major production hell
god i really hope sony decides to go f it and make a full on 35mm camera sensor sized microoled based steamvr headset
then once that sells out, a medium format sized microoled
cursive summit
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IvqrlgKuowE
From what I was reading about the topic
This is used in games, but infrequently
And is called temporal reprojection
astral haven
its used in everything vr
cursive summit
In PC games, it still is very rarely used
astral haven
most vr is PC games
cursive summit
Not an unheard of groundbreaking trick
Although I do wish that there was a new game engine that was built upon this principle
If you want it now, and potentially forever, you'd need to make your own engine
I don't see Nvidia being particularly happy that this new game engine is suddenly allowing a GT1030 user to play the newest CoD, and not buy a new GPU
So I imagine efforts might be made to stop the tech from becoming relevant, like in an Unreal Engine update
astral haven
thats not nescessary, nvidia could easily have made dlss3 be that + using the ai engine just to fill the gaps
what killzone however is doing is not what is used in vr
and its not what the demo ltt showed off uses either
killzone uses a better form of dlss 3
cursive summit
What the demo by comradestinger does isn't exactly the same thing as in VR either
astral haven
yea its 3 different techs
cursive summit
Close, but far inferior for a demo made in an evening
astral haven
well no
its significantly better at some aspects
however it is completely unable to deal with certain things, particularly transparency
besides shaders on the gpu ofc lel
same story for VR
heres the thing
endgame with the asynchronous projection technique is able to reproject a single frame into hundreds or even thousands without visual issues as long as nothing new enters your view or anything in the view changes significantly
practically you would be able to use async reprojection to turn 60 fps into 20kfps and make it believable
and since you wouldnt have to fake motion blur, it would look beautiful
depends how fast things in the scene are moving
for slower paced stuff yea 500 fps is enough
there are scenes in disney movies that near into the 100s of thousands of intermediate frames on 24 fps
thats only needed for raytracing with fast moving points to make them coalesce into a line
with manifold rendering you can directly render the line (in theory)
wheat plume
Discord removed AMOLED theme on phone
Or it's broken
The option is not there for me anymore and it's the ugly dark grey background again
It does now though
I think
Whatever
Payback for us not having dark theme on Snapchat....
While iphone had it over 4 years by now
coarse cloak
So that gets things earlier
and breaks things earlier 
pale sigil
Huh
I'm beta too
Oh yup
They broke it
Haha
We are way ahead of you
Haha
189.6
coarse cloak
and breaks things earlier <:trollAware:1082022720725848064>
^
pale sigil
Wasn't using it anyway
Cant put my finger on it but it looked better on my previous phone than my current
And I could never get used to it
Fired
You're supposed to use it for 24/7 free labour support
crisp granite
You're supposed to use it for 24/7 free labour support
That’s if they give you a company device for that purpose and pay you extra for the privilege of having an employee on call
Otherwise
they can fuck right off 
cursive summit
At 4AM as well?
Fuck that, if that's not in your job description, you don't have to do it
24/7 entails essentially nearly triple the normal working hours, so if the salary doesn't go up at least 2x, then what's the point
ashen spindle
meanwhile I've been using my pc instead of a laptop from work for like 3 year in home office now 
but its also just my second pc with nothing else on it, not my main one
astral haven
same
i have a pc at home that i just check emails and remote into my actual pc at work
ashen spindle
its also massively easerit to have 3 different vr headsets set up on a pc rather than a laptop that work would give lol
ashen spindle
astral haven
oh my god get actually rekt
ashen spindle
astral haven
that surprises me but hey if they got the trademark, its theirs
ashen spindle
it could be that its stylized enough to go past
but man imagine wiht musk suing meta for threads they just sue back and win the trademark dispute
never did I think I would ever find myself rooting for zuckerberg that much
mild dome
Elon's next genius invention is going to be a pair of pants with guns hotglued on pointing directly at his feet
astral haven
but man imagine wiht musk suing meta for threads they just sue back and win the ...
dont even need to tbh, they will probably win the threads lawsuit without having to mention x
then after they win the lawsuit, they will sue for x if elon hasnt given up yet
ashen spindle
I mean due to musk going for that its more likely zuck wants to just screw him and go for this when otherwise they would probably end up with an agreement
astral haven
yea i dont think however facebook could sell the x trademark for as much if musk still thinks he has a chance with threads
halcyon willow
fuck haha, i just uploaded a 400mb file in seconds, it feels so good.
chill w that
dont make me jealous
pale sigil
haha its the first time for me at my home
vagrant pagoda
fuck haha, i just uploaded a 400mb file in seconds, it feels so good.
ive been on fiber so long i forget what its like to be that slow
XD
<flexin>
pale sigil
ive been on fiber so long i forget what its like to be that slow
I have too but not full fibre
i always had fast download but shit upload
usually 350/20
now im on 500/500
pale sigil
Other countries just went docsis
vagrant pagoda
i have backup cable
the fiber got hit once so they gave me fre cable as it was getting fixed
ashen spindle
usa should have had fiber to every home for years now but only some places do due to the usual isp scams
vagrant pagoda
and never stopped it
vagrant pagoda
usa should have had fiber to every home for years now but only some places do du...
i got mine XD
pale sigil
i mean
vagrant pagoda
is cable better than fiber
ashen spindle
docsis 4 aint out yet, so yes future tech is better than current tech
pale sigil
docsis 4 is a lot faster than 3 upload wise
astral haven
a full docsis 3.1 connection is 10g/2G
pale sigil
by a large amount, but ips will still probably limit upload
pale sigil
My old ISP offered me to move to a business plan the last day of leaving...
vagrant pagoda
i get a call a week about upgradeing from 3 to 10
pale sigil
Said better upload...
vagrant pagoda
i had 2, then got the free bump to 3
pale sigil
offered me 500/30 lol
vagrant pagoda
but im on $150 promo rate locked in
to get 10 i need to move to 299
idk if i want to
vagrant pagoda
this is us
astral haven
id prefer 10g/2g to 5g symmetrical 5g
and i dont think anyone offers residential fiber in the us above 5g and outside of silicon valley and fancy cities
vagrant pagoda
150 is good
pale sigil
yearly?
vagrant pagoda
id prefer 10g/2g to 5g symmetrical 5g
and i dont think anyone offers residential...
comcast dose
astral haven
where?
vagrant pagoda
they have a massive fiber network
they dont adertise for lol
its also 1500 or 2000 for install
and 299 a month
mine was actually like 2800
because of length of run
astral haven
🤷 my work just got quoted 85k + 200 per month for a 20m/20m line
astral haven
this isnt biz service either
astral haven
i pay 80 per mo for 300/20
ashen spindle
told ya, usual ISP scams in the US
pale sigil
You truly are florida man
vagrant pagoda
yeah the 150 isnt bad when the next best is 1200/40 for ~120
but 300 for 10g/10g is good
ashen spindle
wait 150 for 1 gig down or more?
astral haven
we can get 5g/5g for 180/mo
not fantastic
vagrant pagoda
wait 150 for 1 gig down or more?
i started at 150 for 2g/2g
they upgraded to 3/3
for free
ashen spindle
oh that's not too bad then
vagrant pagoda
but its actually 3+1/3+1
ashen spindle
still kinda scam but what can you do
vagrant pagoda
because they dont limit the fiber, just the ports
so there is a 3gbit sfp+ and a 1g ethernet
vagrant pagoda
still kinda scam but what can you do
i mean its gotta be the cheapers per mbit
astral haven
there are programs where you can get 1g/1g for $40/mo when you are low income in my area
vagrant pagoda
definty the cheapest per mbit up upload
vagrant pagoda
there are programs where you can get 1g/1g for $40/mo when you are low income in...
with no cap?
astral haven
correct
vagrant pagoda
why dont you have that then
astral haven
i live with my parents who arent low income?
vagrant pagoda
get it in your name XD
astral haven
thats fraud unless i pay for it which eh not sure i wanna
vagrant pagoda
anyway
we dont ahve that shit here
just shit att dsl
comcast
and local wisp
astral haven
yea its a california thing
vagrant pagoda
att says they have fiber
but they say i cant get it
i live off the main highway
astral haven
you in cali?
astral haven
ah
vagrant pagoda
unless att has like under sea idk why i couldnt get it if they had it
ive asked like 3 times
when they send out mail ads
astral haven
yea cali has a state website that lists all service providers for normal and low income for every single block of houses
vagrant pagoda
out furture president govener dosent belive in that shit
astral haven
we only have 21 different tax rates depending on what city or county you live in get owned 
😭
vagrant pagoda
i mean we have state/county/city tax too
astral haven
sure but we have 21 different rates
google and a quick search through a tax rate list i only see 4 different rates
oh no 3
ashen spindle
god if that clown of governor becomes president we have more issues than taxes and fibre issues
vagrant pagoda
lesser of two evils maybe
scenic lion
the wooting takes yearsssssss
pale sigil
but after ill be on a promo for $32/month or maybe $25
ashen spindle
I'm not so sure if he is the lesser evil, he seems like the more competent evil
pale sigil
the wooting takes yearsssssss
You dont know real pain
astral haven
i mean we have state/county/city tax too
you have 6% state, and .5 and 1% above that
we have 3.25% up to 10.25% in increments of .25%
scenic lion
You dont know real pain
I do bro cuz i go to a lot of concerts so i buy tickets like a year in advance LOL
pale sigil
I do bro cuz i go to a lot of concerts so i buy tickets like a year in advance L...
a year?
thats quick
lol
scenic lion
cap
ashen spindle
yea
pale sigil
Wooting one took a year too
pale sigil
I love my speed but i cant justify spending so much
halcyon willow
Also, what VPN would you guys recommend to me that allows torrenting?
vagrant pagoda
get better torrents
pale sigil
at one point i was paying $50 for 250
vagrant pagoda
forget about vpn
pale sigil
Also, what VPN would you guys recommend to me that allows torrenting?
Private tracker
halcyon willow
qbittorrent
halcyon willow
who said piracy? lol
pale sigil
Then again the duck is asleep
halcyon willow
then you better hurry your ass '
ashen spindle
AMD is targeting December 2023 for updates for desktop systems (eg, Ryzen 3000 and Ryzen 4000 with Radeon); October for high-end desktops (eg, Threadripper 3000); November and December for workstations (eg, Threadripper Pro 3000); and November to December for mobile (laptop-grade) Ryzens.
yikes
Don’t think zen2 ever made it into Chromebooks
From glancing over it it seems like chromes thing wouldn’t cover it since it’s not from hyperthreading on the same core but the speculative execution bits but maybe
vagrant pagoda
Don’t think zen2 ever made it into Chromebooks
yeah
5300/5500u is common
they are zen2 based but 7nm
derp zen2 was 7nm
i thought they were die srunk
oh yeah 7000 had zen2 die srink on low end
vagrant pagoda
yeah but the 5300u is popular in chromebooks
astral haven
astral haven
most popular on newegg is 3250c
for windows its a 7520u
tho there are plenty of more popular 7030 series for windows
vagrant pagoda
the 5300u ive seen most in "gaming" chromebooks
it can do a lot in 720p
dont the xx20s have rnda2 and zen2?
astral haven
7020 but yea
vagrant pagoda
werid combo
im hoping for a 7840U 2in1
ive only seend 7x30 2in1 so far
and they are still vega
i ahve a 5700u which is basicly unchaged to the 7730u
astral haven
i await amd to be stable enough to go into a business surface
vagrant pagoda
the 5700u is nice because even in a 2in1 25w boost works for a few seconds
where the 7730s are 15w
the 7840u is a 15-30w so it should like for like into a 5700u cooling
astral haven
and i have a 1065g7 which boosts into the 50w range for around a second lol
actually not really, thats total laptop power
vagrant pagoda
but it would have zen4 boosting to 5ghz
halcyon willow
what about the 5700G?
astral haven
thats still sleep states
vagrant pagoda
what about the 5700G?
that isnt mobile
astral haven
amd isnt really compatible with sleep states in general
the 5700g is thicker than my laptop lol
vagrant pagoda
yeah
astral haven
at least the base of my laptop
vagrant pagoda
prop more metal in that ihs than my laptops cooling system
vagrant pagoda
i wish book was better
halcyon willow
that isnt mobile
I mean is it good for a gaming build
astral haven
book is dead
halcyon willow
on PC
vagrant pagoda
i though 10 was arm?
vagrant pagoda
idk
astral haven
the surface pro 9 with lte is the current gen arm chip because screw being consistent
vagrant pagoda
the naming sucks ass
halcyon willow
what would you build with 2k
vagrant pagoda
because you can set it down
halcyon willow
what PC
astral haven
halcyon willow
ANSWER
astral haven
i probably have 2k in air cooling and my pc is liquid cooled lmao
halcyon willow
lol
astral haven
tho thats only bc i got an absolutely insane deal on my fans, i only paid like $2 a peice for 10 $50 fans
halcyon willow
AXP120-X67 with noctua fan swap laughing in your face
vagrant pagoda
to loud
astral haven
nah just get earplugs
non delta fans are too weak
vagrant pagoda
to loud
i run the front 180s at 300
and the bottoms run at 0 until temps get to 80s
halcyon willow
astral haven
yea i havent turned on my pc in probably 3 or 4 months thanks to that
dex is goated
astral haven
no cad on dex
parsec on a pc in another room, dex > parsec
vagrant pagoda
that pc is on lol
astral haven
and the sound decreases with the square of distance not to mention the walls
vagrant pagoda
too little fans
i cool more with less fans and noise xd
halcyon willow
how so
vagrant pagoda
thonk
halcyon willow
?
vagrant pagoda
there is like multiple kilos of heatsink in there
2 180s cools it 90% of the time
the second set only work for when cpu+gpu are pinned
only have the 4 fans
none on cpu,gpu or psu
halcyon willow
skill issue
astral haven
i have the primary set stay off until my water hits 50c, my secondary set stays off till the water hits 35c, and its at minimum until 40c which is silent
when the primaries kick on tho, you notice lmao
they havent come on automatically yet
vagrant pagoda
i never get more than 400rpm on both
astral haven
400 on 180mm is alot faster blade tip speed than on 120 tho
vagrant pagoda
and thats ~500-600w
astral haven
thats less power than my gpu draws on its own lol
vagrant pagoda
yeah
its gonna get worst when i get new gpu
im still on 1080ti sli becuase 5 screens
astral haven
but yea no matter what i do im screwed since i have x570
vagrant pagoda
im on a 5800x3d
astral haven
why tf did amd not just outsource the chipset to asus like all of their other ones
just outsource it and it wouldnt have consumed so much power it needs a fan
astral haven
correct, they dont make a ws x570s ace
vagrant pagoda
f
astral haven
and the ws x570 ace is the only board that supports 3 x8 devices simultaneously or an x16 and an x8 simultaneously
astral haven
yea i easily saturate x16+x8
astral haven
40g can saturate an x4?
i dont think they make pcie 4 40g nics do they?
astral haven
mine can
vagrant pagoda
my nas has a 4.0 nic
vagrant pagoda
i keep work stuff all local for work
and just move it on/off
so not a big deal
they only get 10-20gb
i do know there is a 10g 1x4.0
astral haven
i wanted to keep my game drive exclusively on my nas
vagrant pagoda
chipset?
astral haven
connectx5
its on chipset 4.0x8 technically
but the chipset to cpu link is ofc 4.0x4
vagrant pagoda
x5 are 3.0?
vagrant pagoda
i thought 4.0 was a 6 thing
astral haven
nah
vagrant pagoda
nah fam
astral haven
only connectx 4 had dual port 100g on 3.0
vagrant pagoda
ah yeah they do both
they also make a dual 40 4.0 card
they make a 4.0x8 50g card
hmmm
idk if my swtich dose 50g
vagrant pagoda
swtiches are fucky
astral haven
at least for the connectx 5 generation
astral haven
i have a crs504 and it works fine
it stays unplugged most of the time tho just like my nas lmao
astral haven
how many ports?
vagrant pagoda
32?
astral haven
neat
vagrant pagoda
i only use 3
astral haven
is it compatible with the intel cwdm4 modules?
astral haven
my crs504 has 4 ports populated too lol
vagrant pagoda
i dont use optical at all other than the isp hardware
astral haven
tho my 3rd is a single rather than a breakout
vagrant pagoda
im all DAC
astral haven
dac is more expensive than singlemode on 100g thanks to intel
vagrant pagoda
my desktop is 40
vagrant pagoda
10m was like 100 bucks on ebay
astral haven
50m for a total of under 40
$25 for 4 modules, $20 per 50m singlemode cable
buy it now is $7 per module tho so you could build 1 cable for $34
vagrant pagoda
ive had the 40g for like 5 years now
astral haven
yea the intel cwdm4 module has been available for most of that time tho it flew waaaaaaaaaaaay under the radar until last year
i bought my set in 21 i think?
singlemode duplex lc 100g module for under $20
intel manufactured an insane amount of these modules to test out silicon photonics
i bought my first module before any other 100g gear since i wanted to have the first production silicon photonics module ever
immediately afterwards i bought the 40g gear and the other one of the set and was very sad when it wasnt compatible with 40g
cursive summit
Lol, how on earth would you even enforce that
I don't own a pc camera, and I'm not getting one for some douches to scan my face and spy on me
Also funny thing about this? AI image generators will absolutely demolish this attempt
First post off of r/midjourney
How do you figure out that your little "facial recognition" thing isn't just someone using an AI generated image
reef patrol
https://www.pcgamer.com/the-esrb-wants-to-start-using-facial-recognition-to-chec...
Considering how easy these are to fool...
That's going to be quite the dumpsterfire.
crimson wigeon
Please drink verification can
latent mural
How do you figure out that your little "facial recognition" thing isn't just som...
Me getting my face scanned forever everytime I open up my phone for pirating a 3 dollar game
reef patrol
Me getting my face scanned forever everytime I open up my phone for pirating a 3...
They're referring to the game content.
reef patrol
Your material needs work.
cursive summit
Your material needs work.
Jesus, Mansen's bringing out the heat today. What got into you?
reef patrol
Nothing. Genuinely assumed they misunderstood what the ESRB were doing.
cursive summit
Pffft HAHAAH
Another one into the Musk v Zuckerberg books
Though I can't find the trademark
There is however a Romanian company that has literally trademarked everything Musk would want to trademark
From X Portal, X Payment, X Network, etc
Although yes indeed Meta has indeed registered and own X https://tsdr.uspto.gov/#caseNumber=87980831&caseType=SERIAL_NO&searchType=statusSearch
Ahh that's the Mixer logo
But that went down under so, does it even matter they own X?
fair gull
someone didnt read the trademark details didnt they
the trademark is for a stylized x
that stylized x is the mixer x
cursive summit
Trademark experts are saying this is untrademarkable
fair gull
well if you stylize it you can prob trademark it
cursive summit
But he didn't, it's the same character
Yeah this is some murky waters that Musk is wading in
Oh yeah
fair gull
Description of Mark: The mark consists of a stylized letter "X". The left side of the "X" is white and the right side of the "X" is blue. The shaded square carrier represents background only and is not a part of the mark.
Color Drawing: Yes
Color(s) Claimed: The color(s) white and blue is/are claimed as a feature of the mark.
But it's a non-profit so thye prolly won't mind
fair gull
well its a trademarked mark so you cant just use it yourself
and if musk would have made an earily similar one with the same colors
they could easily sue
cursive summit
Apparently Microsoft also own X, trying to find that one
fair gull
prob the xbox x
cursive summit
Not sure if this is enforceable considering the services aren't even mentioning social media
fair gull
can only enforce it on the services it applies to
reef patrol
I'm sure a certain eagle of the legal kind will chime in soon enough.
cursive summit
Well the more Musk gets sued, the better
reef patrol
But it is such a classic Musk thing to act first, then think (if at all)
raw zephyr
social media>>>
jade lintel
Please drink verification can
mfw i throw up after chugging another 16oz verification can on my third try after an unknown error happens twice
sharp badger
halcyon moss
minisforum is just pumping out model after model
For home automation machine learning stuff is becoming more of a thing.. So wonder how the new apu do that
reef patrol
halcyon moss
..why would you do that
vagrant pagoda
did youtube kill the quaility of thumbnails?
gusty kiln
Looks fine to me
vagrant pagoda
gusty kiln
Unless they are testing since free user bullshit
gusty kiln
Mobile or desktop
vagrant pagoda
desktop
ashen spindle
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1017221825996005478/1133389998968811560/f7e48eab-af56-435b-9680-1ecfd901835b_1200x1502.png dann zen4c is tiny
E Cores wish they could be like that
halcyon moss
whats the catch though
ashen spindle
Doesn’t clock as high
But otherwise the same so no performance loss from missing AVX or anything
vagrant pagoda
i mean halfing the effective l3 will effect performace somewhat
ashen spindle
Yes but that’s not on the core itself but on the ccd
Compared to e cores it’s still a genius design
latent mural
..why would you do that
The aesthetic
fickle ore
@astral haven lel
vagrant pagoda
Compared to e cores it’s still a genius design
yes
espeically if we get a fat 3dvcahce
latent mural
Cahce
fair gull
<@126850798666645504> lel
already discussed to be not for X but for the mixer x specifically
vagrant pagoda
also
fair gull
and before the microsoft x trademark tweet is posted by Dag: doesnt apply to elons uses
fair gull
elon owning x.com makes it very hard for someone else to fight it anyway
not really
it would be very hard for anyone to trademark a single letter as is
vagrant pagoda
case law
fair gull
most trademarks are specific to very niche uses or to stylized versions
vagrant pagoda
domain name ownership is king in us
its pretty hard to fight it
if they had the domain first
fair gull
but he hasnt stolen anything
latent mural
I still don’t understand why everyone hates Elon
vagrant pagoda
see nissan.com
latent mural
I understand hating Cuckerburg but why Elon
vagrant pagoda
fickle ore
I understand hating Cuckerburg but why Elon
Elon is 100% more hateable than zuck, zuck's a nicest guy you'll meet
😄
latent mural
Suckerburg
vagrant pagoda
only if you like sweet baby rays
fair gull
elons history with x.com and owning it will make it hard for someone to stop him...
not really. he can name whatever he wants x sure but itll be hard to get a trademark for just X
latent mural
Elon is 100% more hateable than zuck, zuck's a nicest guy you'll meet
Explain yourself
latent mural
And builds rockets
vagrant pagoda
not really. he can name whatever he wants x sure but itll be hard to get a trade...
not really
fickle ore
also bought twitter
latent mural
And electric cars
vagrant pagoda
Mr Nissan never had an issue with it, read his court docs
latent mural
Keep shilling suckerburg
vagrant pagoda
and what the judges said in his case
fickle ore
And builds rockets
he aint doing jack, hes paying ppl to do with bc he has massive ego and wants to be immortalized in history
halcyon moss
musk just promises things as if they are already in existence. its really musk's fanbase thats annoying
vagrant pagoda
icann was on his side
latent mural
What man doesn’t?
fair gull
Mr Nissan never had an issue with it, read his court docs
weird that no one else made a car company called nissan
latent mural
Wouldn’t you like to be remembered?
fickle ore
Wouldn’t you like to be remembered?
no
ashen spindle
Lying manchild that promises stuff and vanishes, Terible human in person as a father who just got born rich , zuck just made Facebook and steals data
fair gull
owning a domain name doesnt give you a trademark and x in itself is too general to be trademark able
vagrant pagoda
weird that no one else made a car company called nissan
Mr Nissan sold used cars on his site for a while out of spite
fickle ore
I don't want AI groping my internet self
latent mural
I think most people do lol
vagrant pagoda
and was allowed to call it nissan motors
fair gull
Mr Nissan sold used cars on his site for a while out of spite
anyone can sell cars
vagrant pagoda
i feel like you have no idea about mr nissan's fight
fair gull
the difference is mr nissan doesnt have a trademark for the word nissan nor will he
fickle ore
Lying manchild that promises stuff and vanishes, Terible human in person as a fa...
That's it. Elon is a terrible father. Can't respect a man like that.
vagrant pagoda
read his legal briefs and case results
vagrant pagoda
the difference is mr nissan doesnt have a trademark for the word nissan nor will...
yes he did
ashen spindle
owning a domain name doesnt give you a trademark and x in itself is too general ...
The x trademark from mixer is specifically for social media, the old x com banking think didn’t matter for that so that’s why it is relevant now
latent mural
That's it. Elon is a terrible father. Can't respect a man like that.
Your first fair point
fair gull
and laid claim to the domain by alleging
so
the court case isnt about what we are talking about
no one cares that elon has x.com
fair gull
i cant find that anywhere for the case outcome
the court case was purely over nissan wanting the domain name
nothing else
vagrant pagoda
in what court system?
fair gull
the us
vagrant pagoda
which one
vagrant pagoda
we have 1000s
fair gull
link it
fair gull
thats not a court case
vagrant pagoda
when he died all the stuff came off his site
so im going though archive
which is slow as balls
fair gull
why is the court case only on archive.org
vagrant pagoda
he had links to it all
there are 1000s of court systems in the us
to seach them all would take months
fair gull
as mentioned all i can find is a single case where nissan claimed its trademark DILLUTION due to similar name and logo and that nissan as a company has sole claim to the domain.
vagrant pagoda
what about cybersquating
fair gull
thats the whole sole claim
its 1 case
with multiple claims against mr uzi nissan
but nowhere was there trademark INFRINGEMENT
and the argument is that elon infringes on either Meta or microsoft trademarks
which he isnt
at most Xorg could claim similarities in logo
as they both use a very similar stylized logo
ashen spindle
Well the mixer x trademark isn’t limited to that sort of stylized X but X as term for social media so it could be applicable
vagrant pagoda
he literaly had cars for sale on his site under nissan motors
which nissan then added to the suit
they won a injuction on infrigment grounds
but lost the appeal
fair gull
ok so i do admit i was slightly wrong but explain to me how the MIXER logo that Meta trademarked and x for very specific use cases that Microsoft has.... would influence elon
like at all
because that was the entire point
vagrant pagoda
the way it works in us isnt who has tradmark first
vagrant pagoda
its who had "fame" in use first
fair gull
cause no one has a trademark he infringes on
ashen spindle
Meta holds the "X" trademark for "online social networking services... social networking services in the fields of entertainment, gaming and application development..."
fair gull
> Meta holds the "X" trademark for "online social networking services... social ...
read their trademark
its about a stylized x
ashen spindle
Yes and no it can for more than just that variant of it
vagrant pagoda
Uzi Nissan used his name in the us BEFORE nissan motors did
which is how he own his case
fair gull
vagrant pagoda
he had the first "fame" in use of the name
owning a trademark dosent make you god
ashen spindle
Either way it depends on what local rules get added since states also have weird laws and all on top
So we could all be right or wrong and the opposite could happen
reef patrol
That sure doesn't sound like Elon's mark.
fair gull
exactly
the trademark meta has is basically a very specific stylization of x
and microsoft can only get elon if elon actually does smth in the same sector as microsofts trademark
microsofts goods and services secton is slim
vagrant pagoda
why do you think owning a tradmark is the gold standard
they are lost all the time
fair gull
its not but the internet does
my point is elon wont get fought
nor will he fight anyone
vagrant pagoda
see how it says first use and first use in commerce
fair gull
cause x is the dumbest company or product name you could have
vagrant pagoda
elon and co first used x in commerce in 99
vagrant pagoda
yes
fair gull
nor does elon fight anyone
vagrant pagoda
because they will lose
fair gull
no one besides elon thinks X is a good name for anything
vagrant pagoda
not because its elon
vagrant pagoda
its the same reason paypal sold it to him
fair gull
first of no one has a trademark or anything for it. so no one has grounds to sue him
ashen spindle
I think you two are arguing for the same side lol
fair gull
second of no one wants x
vagrant pagoda
nah
fair gull
x is unsearchable
vagrant pagoda
single letter tld are crazy money
fair gull
x is unuseable in every day language
x.com would be at best a good domain for showing off
also
ashen spindle
I mean as an app for anything it works because x the variable for anything
fair gull
elon has 1 strong contender if you actually think fame alone determines the domain holder
XCOM
1994
latent mural
owning a trademark dosent make you god
He is already a God
vagrant pagoda
. isnt -
vagrant pagoda
and its common use to not include the tld in names
fair gull
x hyphen com is different to x dot com
wait now i know why nissan lost
nissan.com isnt nissan motors
now it makes sense
vagrant pagoda
Mr Nissan used Nissan Motors to sell cars
latent mural
Let’s cool it down in here
fair gull
also im almost 100% sure the name x-com isnt related to their branding
the branding that they already used for the first game
which was an x a floating dot and com
but last i checked ascii didnt have floating dots
vagrant pagoda
ascii wasnt all ibm bios had
it had bullet and interpunct
last row almost at the end is both
latent mural
Elon chose 5 random letters from here to make his daughters name
reef patrol
vagrant pagoda
i guess the actual font isnt in bios only the char table
so techically its mda/cga rom
fair gull
mainly will rely on if amiga also had it
the game came out for dos and amiga and i assume they could make a very reasonable case if amiga doesnt have a floating character
im not well spoken enough in amiga to know this
fair gull
fair gull
not for filenames i believe
but sure
idk why else all their marketing doesnt have a hyphen
fair gull
correct thats not what i said
vagrant pagoda
also og xcom wasnt even on amigas
fair gull
it was
X-COM: UFO Defense (known as UFO: Enemy Unknown in Europe) is a 1994 science fiction strategy video game developed by Mythos Games. It was published by MicroProse for DOS and Amiga computers, the Amiga CD32 console, and the PlayStation.
anyway my point was their logo (which many people would have interacted with) was an x with a dot and com
and just logically xcom has the best chance of having any claims against elons x.com
fair gull
idk man the second one doesnt look anywhere close to a - to me
the original cover might be argued its swuished
idk if they care though cause if they cared they could have fought over x.com long ago
not to mention nowadays they are known as XCOM
vagrant pagoda
wtf is the secondone from?
fair gull
series logo
vagrant pagoda
from?
fair gull
i googled it
fair gull
1999
not that it matters too much. this fighting chance is theoretical and most likely 2k wouldnt act on it at all
cause they rebranded
vagrant pagoda
so
fair gull
long long ago
fair gull
i didnt even know it has a different logo than what i posted
fair gull
might be US/EU differences
but either way i dont think xcom would fight
due to rebranding
vagrant pagoda
yeah
fair gull
would certainly be interesting to see 2k rebrand again from xcom to x-com or whatever style they choose nowadays
vagrant pagoda
maybe have real math this time?
fair gull
only unreal math in this town
reef patrol
maybe have real math this time?
Xcom never lied though.
vagrant pagoda
Let’s cool it down in here
if only that was bigger
vagrant pagoda
i have never had worst odds on 90% than xcom
i recorded my results one play though
fair gull
that sounds like bad rng not bad math
vagrant pagoda
and literally 70% had the best actual results
ashen spindle
Xcom never lied though.
Hmmmm I have seen a 100% Miss on xcom2
vagrant pagoda
so like a few 1000 entryds
fair gull
Hmmmm I have seen a 100% Miss on xcom2
xcom or x-com
ashen spindle
The newest one
fair gull
didnt play it
reef patrol
Xcom like most games just spit out a series of numbers based on a seed. So unless you start savescumming and replace dice rolls to shift the sequence, or toggle seed re-generation, then it's going to do the same over and over.
85% chance? Dice roll of 1-100, if it is 84 or below, it's a miss.
Edit: The opposite of course. I am derp.
fair gull
it doesnt use background noise from the universe to determine my rolls?
vagrant pagoda
85% chance? Dice roll of 1-100, if it is 84 or below, it's a miss.
Edit: The opp...
thats the opposite lol
reef patrol
Right. Long work day xD
reef patrol
it doesnt use background noise from the universe to determine my rolls?
Syncronizing random seed with lava lamps
fair gull
also better to cutoff the beginning and end and not just the end as if you just do the whole if its below X it wouldnt work for bell curve distributions
which some RNGs are
reef patrol
What XCOM lacked was a resource to guarantee a hit at a critical moment.
vagrant pagoda
reef patrol
Lot of games do this to let you cheat fate, but only very limited.
ashen spindle
tweetdeck still holding out
vagrant pagoda
lol
cursive summit
ashen spindle
conveniently leaving out the form factor
anyway is it my discord thats borken or does clicking links no longer open that tab
latent mural
https://www.techspot.com/news/99524-massive-61-tb-nvme-ssd-data-centers-arriving...
Need this for ______
cursive summit
Very funny
reef patrol
conveniently leaving out the form factor
Judging by the size, this 100% requires Some kind of "proprietary" adaptor board from a PCI-E slot, and a new form factor of rack shelf.
cursive summit
Tbf 61TB would be pretty attractive for enterprise I imagine
fair gull
Judging by the size, this 100% requires Some kind of "proprietary" adaptor board...
its u.2 and e1.l apparently
reef patrol
https://www.simms.co.uk/tech-talk/e1s-e1l-the-new-server-form-factors-explained/
Ah. So technically already exists.
fair gull
they exist yeah but datacenter specific usually
reef patrol
Wouldn't have expected otherwise with such a long, thing stick. It looks GPU long.
So... completely out of consumer form factor.
fair gull
31cm or so
reef patrol
So how do these connect to a device?
Outside of a purpose built rack mount with a backplante, I would imagine a long, adaptor board. Like the ones you see for NVME 8xNVME style boards.
fair gull
which could be adapted to pcie
but i would assume the 61tb drive either doesnt come in a good size or has some other means of not being compatible with normal consumer gear
reef patrol
So something like this for an editing PC, but twice as long or more?
fair gull
So something like this for an editing PC, but twice as long or more?
most certainly an external enclosure
so the locking mechanism works
i dont see it ever as a pcie card itself
reef patrol
If you say so. I assumed you could get it as just an NVME style board, with a connector at the end.
So socketable.
fair gull
i think they exist as pure boards
but i also assume a 61tb variant wouldnt be cooled efficiently that way
reef patrol
And even if not available as such off the shelf, I'm sure someone will make an adaptor card similar to the above, for consumer PCs that want the capacity without a server rack. You know... YT editors, Streamers and such who care more about purpose than price 😄
