🔌│tech

[pale sigil]

Why do you have to ruin the fun

[coarse cloak]

sorry i had to

[pale sigil]

https://tenor.com/view/uh-thats-the-point-christina-applegate-jen-harding-dead-to-me-this-is-exactly-the-point-gif-17811423

[final flame]

✂️

[coarse cloak]

LOL

glaxes dont spoil it that much

[pale sigil]

Ya tit

[coarse cloak]

no

[pale sigil]

But I don't think you got the right idea too

Wrong

[final flame]

oh I know, P tripple G

[pale sigil]

Fixed

Ya welcome

[final flame]

👍

[coarse cloak]

[frozen ingot]

guessing you missed that episode of south park

[final flame]

I really love AKG. Like, a lot. Like, a whole lot. You have no idea. I love AKG so much that it is inexplicable, and I'm ninety-nine
percent sure that I have an unhealthy obsession. I will never get tired of listening to those sweet frequencies created by those beautiful dynamic drivers
. It is my life goal to meet up with the head of Harman Audio in real life and just say hello to them.

I fall asleep at night dreaming of them holding a personal listening demo for me, and then after
that I would then be able to take home whatever AKG Headphone I'd like to keep, I could die happy.

I would give up almost anything just for AKG to look in my general direction. No matter what
I do, I am constantlythinking of them. When I wake up, AKG is the first thing on my mind.
When I go to school, I can only focus on AKG. When I go come home, I go on the computer
so that I can listen to my AKG K702's beautiful voice. When I go to sleep, I dream of her and I living a happy life together.
She is my pride, passion, and joy. If she were to give me any less bass I would probably get diabetes from her high frequencies and die.

I wish for nothing but their success. If it were for them, I would give my life slaving away making headphones without any second thoughts.
Without them, my life would serve no purpose. I really love AKG.

@pale sigil

[coarse cloak]

[frozen ingot]

I mean if it was moondrop I might have believed it was a vex post

[coarse cloak]

LMFAO

[final flame]

I mean

[fading ore]

Most of AKG's headphones sounds a bit too sharp in the highs for me.

[rough osprey]

lol

akg > moondrop

dont tell herbert tho

[pale sigil]

I did not

Which is why I said I don't think "vex" understood

I think you're the only one who did

[pale sigil]

88 times

[hard estuary]

Keyboard not working after driver update
How to deal with it?

[misty saffron]

reading chinese isn’t exactly something i’m very good at personally

[halcyon moss]

Sometimes the desktop app works better in these cases

[cursive summit]

@final flame Who are you

Don't steal my identity

That's my a bit weird little cousin

Glaxes, screw off

[final flame]

lol

[cursive summit]

And seriously, AKG is the best you can buy under 200$

There is nothing better

But you will have to rewrite that whole story into R70x soon

[final flame]

[cursive summit]

Gurl, please get 8 hours of sleep

Also maybe some calming meds before hand so you can sleep well

Internet cousins

I guess tired makes horny as well

Well in this case it'd be more like stuck in your RAM stick

Abuse me a million dollars somehow and that'll be more interesting

How on earth do you buy an ATM

This has to be a north american thing

[sharp badger]

https://rog-forum.asus.com/t5/rog-ally/genesys-logic-pcie-card-reader-controller-thoughts-for-ally/td-p/942510 🤔

[cursive summit]

Teach me sister Fym

Free cash is good cash

[crimson wigeon]

Running anything as root means it's very vulnerable, avoid root at all costs

[snow moon]

Try downloading the app instead maybe. I couldn't do it it through my browser personally.

Oh someone already said that

[fading ore]

you could also just run a keylogger from a browser tab if they run xorg :3

[snow moon]

I'm close

Which horse bro 💀

Oh

[fading ore]

Some linux distros have pretty decent security set up for end users. RHEL's SELinux configuration is pretty decent.

[snow moon]

I think I petted a horse once, maybe I qualify as a horse bro

[fading ore]

RHEL implements full MAC via SELinux

[snow moon]

I always go in here expecting some, idk, tech articles or debate around a device of some sort. But every time I feel dumber because y'all talk in code

(I don't mind it, I just feel dumber )

[fading ore]

I can rant (mald) about devices if you want 🙃

[snow moon]

Oho

Sleep tight

[fading ore]

Why the fuck are there 0 decent OLED monitors for under $10,000

[cursive summit]

What are you talking about

[fading ore]

I'm malding about having money and no products that match my unreasonable standards okay

let me cook

[cursive summit]

There are plenty of OLEDs and beyond like mleds

"0 decent" is just like, wtf

Get the odyssey ark you infidel if you need some freaky shit

[fading ore]

The brightest full screen brightness OLED desktop monitor I found was 270cd/m^2

Odyssey ark is a MiniLED monitor that I did consider

[old marlin]

you do know you are looking at OLED

Why the fuck are there 0 perfect monitors for under $10,000

[fading ore]

Exactly :3

[old marlin]

doesn't even do your taxes

[fading ore]

Look I'm used to Macbook screens okay :c

[cursive summit]

So bad displays

Which are sold by samsung to apple

Yet ark is not good enough

Funny

[fading ore]

Yes now I want samsung to sell those screens to me

at 24-32inches

These displays are nuts, would be nice if samsung sold them to more than just apple 🙃

Okay that's my malding about monitors done :3

[sharp badger]

OLED G9/Neo G9 and Ark

[old marlin]

dough

[fading ore]

150cd/m² typical

same problem as the other OLED panels

[old marlin]

not even the main problem with dough

[fading ore]

There are TVs with 450 full screen brightness and phones with static UI elements with >600cd/m. I understand OLED has issues driving high brightness and I would like to solve these issues with Money 🙃

Just charge $5k

[sharp badger]

μLED would be the way

Yeah but No burn-in vs burn-in, longevity imo. matters more

[raw zephyr]

how does one type an upside down h?

i know

but how does one type it

[fading ore]

We have a 44MP MicroLED display at my university's museum that I played around with for a bit.

[sullen pagoda]

you could bind it to a key or copy/paste it from https://home.unicode.org/ when you need it

[raw zephyr]

i got those on my keyboard, but no upside down h ÷×

[fading ore]

samsung's current microLED pitch is quite large, and also ridiculously expensive

an 8k panel currently cost around $400k for low volume orders.

[raw zephyr]

honestly i don't understand the ridiculous pricing on the 240hz oled monitors

[fair gull]



[raw zephyr]

(square)

[fair gull]

clearly not a square

[sullen pagoda]

ok its a rectangle if you want to go for technicalities 😬

[fading ore]

That display was $2.2M :c

[raw zephyr]

how can a 65" 4k 100hz oled tv be cheaper than 27" 1440p 240hz monitor?

[fair gull]

also 140 less hz

[fading ore]

TVs also have easier time dealing with burn-in and can use lower quality panels.

[sullen pagoda]

yeah the 65 inches is the part that would make this probably very niche

[sharp badger]

https://www.oled-info.com/lgs-and-samsungs-curved-oled-tvs-land-us-15000 $15 000 🤑 (2013)

Yep as with everything

[raw zephyr]

wonder how long it's gonna take for oled monitors to become more "normal people" friendly

pricing wise

[fading ore]

It's a little ironic since OLED panels are generally cheaper to produce than TFTs.

[raw zephyr]

"paying premium" i could buy an m2 air macbook for the same price of that asus oled

at least with czech prices, not sure how it looks in different places

[fading ore]

Dell OLED monitors are $900 in U.S ($200 cheaper than M2 air)

[sharp badger]

iPads have support for Logic Pro and Final Cut Pro so there's that too

[fading ore]

The XDR displays on the macbooks have their peak brightness locked behind Apple's EDR API (not accessible through settings), and you need a third party app (such as BetterDummy) to configure the display to run at its advertised brightness

[raw zephyr]

couldn't find any dell oleds here

[old marlin]

they are also not OLEDs

so they will be brighter

[fading ore]

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B09VQ48X5Q?tag=rtings-mn-p-amazon-20&ie=UTF8

[sharp badger]

Alienware is owned by Dell

[fading ore]

I don't have a problem with MiniLED displays as long as they have reasonable dimming zones to deal with bloom.

[raw zephyr]

oh they call it QD-OLED, i was filtering only by OLED

[fading ore]

The monitors I'm considering currently is the Odyssey Ark and Philips Envia 7000

[raw zephyr]

asus pg27aqdm for me

but i think my zowie xl2546 is gonna last me another decade :D

[fading ore]

Personally I'd like a full screen brightness of at-least 500cd/m^2

Looks fine to me

I don't get any noticable blooming on my unit

The upscaler in the macbooks display controller is a bit annoying at times

It runs on any video content rendered by VTB, and has no API to disable it :c

no, idk what that is

I use IINA for playing HDR videos

the hardware upscaler is decent but does tend to oversharpen some content

I'd prefer it if they made it a toggleable option in settings instead of just having it forced on for VTB content.

I dropped mpv after I stopped bugfixing for it. It continuously had performance regressions on MacOS since their only test for passing is basically "it runs".
I gave up PRing performance fixes and it has ridiculously high resource usage now on MacOS.

[cursive summit]

https://medium.com/@opinali/rdna-3-updates-adrenalin-fsr-ml-2f071038f6e6

[fading ore]

Nice, we love performance sidegrades

The interpolation stuff is interesting. They managed a non-ML based model that works?

[cursive summit]

I wonder how long it'd last

Prolly 10 mins or so

[fading ore]

I wouldn't be surprised if companies find it is more profitable to exclude the EU than it is to implement removable batteries.

[reef patrol]

That is historically just not accurate.

[fading ore]

The EU was also historically larger before 2020 :3

[reef patrol]

[final flame]

I really need to replace this damn hard drive

[old marlin]

?

what's so funny about that

wait

I have somehow associated you sending that with mansens emote

I am stupid

but also

[reef patrol]

[old marlin]

that statistic still includes the UK in the exact same way

yes

it separates by region

not political whatevers

https://www.statista.com/statistics/382175/quarterly-revenue-of-apple-by-geograhical-region/

considering europe is apples second strongest region

I would doubt they would drop most of it entirely

yea

your statistic includes the lower end that is not represented in the west that much

and not at all by apple

no the SE for 550€ new is not low end before anyone asks

at least gets to the goal

if we have to coax companies into sustainability for marketing that is still good ig

[wheat plume]

Only works with our own 300 dollar batteries*

[reef patrol]

That's another EU thing. Can't enforce that.

You always see clone batteries coming out of China. The US just has a hard on for illegally enforcing Apple's trademarks due to extreme lobbyism.

I regularly installed offbrand batteries for iPhones while I was a PC/Phone tech.

[cursive summit]

Samsung also wants to have an exclusive right to control any imports of OLED screens or something

[old marlin]

I mean if it means in the end that some company can swoop up old iphones, retrofit some shittier third party aftermarket battery and sell them en masse in an emerging market that is still good?

[cursive summit]

That does not sound right

U.S has fucked laws

[reef patrol]

Then offer it at a fair market price and do an honest comparison.

Trying to illegally have any off-brand batteries seized is not going to win you any favours longterm.

Tough luck.

Your battery isn't rocket science. It is largely just a giant battery cell.

[old marlin]

technically would be illegal in germany to overprice them if it is just a battery

not like any big company will care about that

[reef patrol]

Your circuitry may have some actual development put into it, but again. Under fair repair laws, you need to provide these at a fair market price to consumers and competitors.

Intent is the keyword.

I somehow doubt that - Because they'd have to cut corners to the point of them not following safety specs.

And that still falls on Apple to justify in marketing as to why you should get a genuine battery - Instead of trying to prevent the use of such.

[old marlin]

where would be the downside of that?

if you buy a phone aftermarket and it has a shitty battery you could still easily replace it with a known good quality one

and don't need to risk breaking the screen or something

[snow birch]

Where do I get my commodities code for customs declare?

UPS?

[ashen spindle]

#1019755933959733258

[barren basin]

8000 hz isn't a piss take?

[crude hatch]

it is. very few games even support it

only now are games getting on board with 4k hz and even then its spotty

[barren basin]

Is there a point or just marketing?

[crude hatch]

marketing

[ashen spindle]

For mice it makes sense

[crude hatch]

its really only razer doing it

[barren basin]

All I know is it increases cpu usage

Razer had optical switches before logitech

[crude hatch]

which is at odds with the benefit it provides. its more noticable at really high fps, but using it lowers fps

[ashen spindle]

Because at higher fps you need higher hz to keep a smooth mouse tracking, so it’s nice for now cut will be more important when we get even higher refresh screens

[barren basin]

If you are bottlenecked by cpu sure

[ashen spindle]

Well the higher usage was partly a windows issue that is fixed in recent versions

[crude hatch]

8k hz will create bottlenecks

[barren basin]

But hundreds of fps might not be that much of a difference losing 100 fps

For greater input granularity

[crude hatch]

but in that drop you may also lose any noticable benefit of 8k

[barren basin]

So benefit is marginal and ultimately pointless unless you are like top 10 in your game

?

[crude hatch]

and even then pros are still using 1k

[ashen spindle]

Pros don’t always use the best settings :p

[crude hatch]

if the best at a game arent using it, what difference is it going to make for randoms other than to brag about it.

most casuals wont even notice the difference

[ashen spindle]

It’s diminishing returns sure and it won’t be the reason you get from gold to masters but it’s can be the reason sometimes you get a kill or miss, just much less than knowing positions or aim or w/e

[crude hatch]

the video is 2 years old. this isnt the first time some of us have heard of 8k polling

[woven pelican]

click latency is probably a way bigger factor, iirc there's some huge variance there

[crude hatch]

congrats on learning about 8k polling just today

[old marlin]

games are not the main issue

it is more how windows handles HID

which is much less of an issue in the latest win 11 update

also some people have absolutely bloated windows installs

that can't even handle 1000hz mice

[crude hatch]

ive played games recently as in like over the weekend that stutter over 1k polling. there is for sure a wondows aspect to it but games play a role too

[old marlin]

welp then your install is bloated af

gl

apex director had the same problem

he blamed it entirely on the mouse polling rate

ig what you would expect from apex

[sullen pagoda]

watched the video. the latency improvement and consistency increase are to small to waste a thought about it when buying a mouse.
the most interesting part are the pixel error rates but even that only gives a benefit in big and fast flicks.

part of becoming a fps player is figuring out your crosshair placement ahead of time and stabilizing your aim so that you dont find yourself flicking constantly most of the time with most weapons so even those improved pixel error rates are to small to really matter

[old marlin]

essentially boils down to this

you get motion jitter

so if you use 240hz or above

you should consider getting more hz out of your mouse

instead of just upping monitor hz again and again

[sullen pagoda]

thank you for that data. is that from a paper ? that looks like it would be interesting to read.

my point is though that while jitter inherently is undesirable it still doesnt make 8000hz a significant selling point for most people because the impact of jitter is lower the slower people move their mouse and that that is something that they do naturally as they get better and develop a stable aim + good crosshair placement -> reduces the need the need to flick as often and reduces the length of the needed flick.

[crude hatch]

https://dl.acm.org/doi/fullHtml/10.1145/3472749.3474783

thats the source.

[sullen pagoda]

thank you

[crude hatch]

in the conclusion it says they gathered top 20% players and the jitter had no effect on their performance

[ashen spindle]

Blur busters has some good articles on high polling together with high frame rates at that’s their MO but would need to look for them

[wheat plume]

Why remove 3g and not 2g?

[analog sinew]

probably emergency services or sth

[frozen ingot]

2G more reliable for calls

[wheat plume]

Odd, my phone uses 2G already for those, so this sseems to be irrelvant for me

maybe it is for people still using old phones

[reef patrol]

2G is for a ton of fallback services, AMAZING range. Anything IOT that's phone based is typically 2G

[cursive summit]

2G is used for calling yes

[wheat plume]

hhm

[cursive summit]

And prolly that's why it is still important

I imagine a lot of phones might become unusable if 2G goes away

[reef patrol]

Mhmm. Think cellphone, not smartphone 😄

[wheat plume]

Oo

[cursive summit]

Which old peeps still use

Or some work peeps

Also less rich areas

There is no reason to shut down 2G imo

3G? Eh, that shit is barely usable anyways

[reef patrol]

IOT is also generally SMS based as a fallback for internet/power loss. So many sim cards out there only used to send emails basically.

"POWER LOSS at 10:34"

[cursive summit]

Lol, imagine you get lost in the forests, got struck by an avalanche, fell down a mountain crevice or something

Use the emergency button:

5G isn't available in your area

Git fuks

[reef patrol]

No no. Your iPhone will save you!

[cursive summit]

A good watch with satellite connectivity would

Never really looked up on those satellite gears

[ashen spindle]

I mean the new iPhones have emergency messages via gps now iirc?

[crude hatch]

last I heard they were triggering when people were on rollercoasters. not sure if thats been fixed tho

thats was months ago if I recall

[ashen spindle]

Well that’s the automatic ones I meant the option to send a short message to let people know you are safe or need help when cellular connection is gone

[fair gull]

they reasonably cant

2g is by far the most robust and best network for emergency related things

in basically any country

[shadow minnow]

It used to have good range and be fast enough for videos now it’s usually not working. But for me e now barely ever works too

[halcyon moss]

2g is used a lot for smart power meters

And car chargepoints

[fair gull]

and sms alarms and gamecams and anything basically

[halcyon moss]

A lot of vital infrastructure

[vagrant pagoda]

2g also dosent use bands that want for more 4g

or thier license for that band only allows for gsm

in us i think only tmobile has gsm and its going to shut down soon

[mild dome]

Australia has actually shutdown all its 2g networks

3G seems to slow down as they cannibalize a lot of the radio bands for us in 4G since that is now used by almost everyone

Oz is also currently fazing 3G out, it's going to be totally shutdown in 2024

[pale sigil]

Phones don't even get the option to choose 2g

[latent mural]

hey guys, dose anyone know if the reddragon k565 rudra rg keyboard is compatable with the wooting software, they claim to have linear red switches, but i dont know if im doing something wrong as the keyboard isnt being picked up by the software. any help would be amazing

[reef patrol]

Nothing is compatible with OUR software except for OUR keyboards.

[latent mural]

awe, dam, should look into makeing some other keyboard compatable with the software as you guys do it so well... unless its gonna cause legal issues...

[reef patrol]

What would we gain from that?

[cursive summit]

More like peripheral companies need to make their own software less obnoxious and shit

[latent mural]

people without the keyboard a worse off switches would use your software and over time as they start needing a new keyboard/ rage that their keyboard isnt good enough it will click in ther head about your guys keybaord deu to the fact of useing your software to improve their over all exprience with their keyboard, alot of the time, ill look at something that has improved my exprience with something and ill say huh i wonder if they do this or that, ill look and low and behold thats how i came accross my new reddragon keyboard after useing some of their mouse mats and one of their realllllyyyyy old mice. things like that will happen if you help improve the over all use for other keyboards, and due to the fact that you guys are super nice friendly and then have a software out there, you could also have small reminders on the app to show when a new product are coming out / when they are back in stock. ontop of that, fetures that only work with your keyboards are locked to that keyboard.

[latent mural]

and that yea!

sorry was makeing an entire pitch XD

[cursive summit]

Lol what, this is a business, not a charity

Wooting is a business

[reef patrol]

Counterpoint: Competitors make similar keyboards, and rely on our software for free. 😄

Then we make zero money in that scenario.

[pale sigil]

Depends

It's a charity to me

They spoil me

[cursive summit]

Pleasant, you are a special case

[latent mural]

thats why you lock it down to only have the base stuff not everything

[pale sigil]

[crude hatch]

the whole point of the software is to support wooting customers who have paid for that support. giving that support to people who have not paid for it is not sustainable for a business. If you have an issue with the software with a redgragon board and reach out for help with it, you are now absorbing time and money from a company you have not given any money to

[pale sigil]

Another thing to note is it takes up a significant amount of time to support other products.

[cursive summit]

Tbf Razer products would be actually not horrible as an experience if they utilized Wootility

Same shit with logi

[pale sigil]

Wootility was originally going to be open sauce

+that was on purpose)

[crude hatch]

at least logi doesnt try to install alexa or phillips hue with it

[cursive summit]

Glorious did well and blatantly copied Wootility, and good job from them

[latent mural]

i mean think about it, ontop of haveing "reminders" about product updates, you also have users that want to use your keyboard but one ether dont have the money or are waiting on the product to arrive getting updates on shipments and updates about deals/ price changes and its always letting them know, hey, were just arround the corner

[latent mural]

true XD

[reef patrol]

Our API still is. Anyone's welcome to add Analog to their software, so that we can create a common ecosystem for analog.

But alas...

[frozen ingot]

yeah I kinda want wooting to make a mouse not nescessarily because they'd actually find anything to innovate much on but to avoid having to use ghub or some other crap

[crude hatch]

people who dont have the money for a wooting board are inherently NOT wooting customers tho and would actively detract from supporting paying customers experiences if resources were diverted from them to fix something that popped up from a different brand

[cursive summit]

Having a mouse with not shit software to me is already enough innovation

[latent mural]

i get it, its a pain, but i dont think alot of manufactures are gonna imploment it as they dont have the hardware demand for anolog from them to make it a viable market place for them.

[reef patrol]

Well now that everyone and their dog are copying rapid trigger, and adding hall effect switches, we might finally see a reason for game devs to adopt this.

Since it will cover several brands of keyboards, not just one.

[pale sigil]

If you really wanted and had dedication you can get wootility working with other keyboard

[crude hatch]

zowie and vaxee are teh big ones that come to mind for mice

[frozen ingot]

just make it a true symmetrical, wireless, reasonably lightweight and maybe some fancy optical switches or something for good measure and its an ez buy for me

[pale sigil]

It would be jank, unethical and illegal

[latent mural]

true, as a game dev myself i want to adopt it.

[latent mural]

only issue for me to adopt it as a game dev is my work dosent see the point right now, we work on more..... story based games.

my managers dont see the point sadly.

[cursive summit]

Ngl having a "personality type" listen in your bio doesn't bode well for the potential quality of a game

[latent mural]

XD

true, but this isnt my company account is it?

[crude hatch]

but what if someone saw you supported it but couldnt afford the game. surely you would get them as a customer as soon as they had the money...

[frozen ingot]

rapid trigger really taking my football manager 2023 sessions to the next level

[cursive summit]

I can now reload savegames 1% faster

[latent mural]

this is my comissioner / personal account XD not my company account X3

[cursive summit]

Thanks rapid trigger

[frozen ingot]

tapping through spreadsheets, such a drag before

[pale sigil]

Probably a furry

[cursive summit]

Takes one to know one

[pale sigil]

@latent mural ill trade a wooting secret for a vrchat avatar

Deal?

[latent mural]

XD haha nah thanks XD

no company information leaks in my dms please XD

[pale sigil]

Missing out

Oh I get you

Text it is

Send me your number

[latent mural]

ffs XD no XD

im sure the wooting team wont like you doing that XD

[pale sigil]

But I want vrchat avatar

What are they gonna do, sue me for 50p?

[latent mural]

XD, then commission someone, X3, i dont work with avitars, i work with worlds X3, i dont think this is the place to talk about it anyway, there are many discords you can join to comsision people.

[pale sigil]

What about a not yet released product

I'm kidding haha

I just saw your bio when vex pointed it out

[latent mural]

let me guess the wooting UwU XD

[latent mural]

hahah, its all good bro dont worry

[pale sigil]

I cannot confirm or deny

All I know is that I'll slide you a box

With an item in it

That I could have accidentally put something in that isn't out yet

Jokes aside, I was considering an avatar once but it's so expensive to commission.

[latent mural]

yea, it can get fairly expensive, best thing i can say, is look for a custom base and go from there, get a budget set and talk to a fer comissioners and see what u wanna do from there.

[pale sigil]

Aye, it's the rigging too tbag takes time.

I looked into it to do myself but it would take me longer to learn and I cba

[latent mural]

ill be honest with ya... rigging.... is hummmm painfull to say the least.

[pale sigil]

There's them services but they don't really feel unique

If I have an avatar I want it to be 100% what I want vs picked from a lot of options

[latent mural]

true, i get that, if u want hop into my dms and we can talk about it more, ill see if ive got any friends i can get you in contact with that might be able to get you what u want.

[pale sigil]

Tbh, I probably wouldn't indefinitely purely because of money rn

It's very low down on my list and not really affordable most of the time these days

Wootup drained my savings 😅

#WorthIT

[astral haven]

sign up for all the ai betas and keep trying different ones until one that you like pops out

[vagrant pagoda]

you only had that much saved?

[pale sigil]

I spent like 550 euro but tbh I also spent a lot during the month after going out

So I spent a grand or so

[vagrant pagoda]

550 on wooting?

[pale sigil]

Ye

Passport alone cost me £165

😅

[vagrant pagoda]

i have 2 boards and it wasnt that much

[pale sigil]

Wootup

Wootup

Going to the Netherlands

[vagrant pagoda]

oh

derp

[pale sigil]

Lol, fucking savings on a keyboard

More important things that's for sure 😅

[astral haven]

you say that but there are some crazy expensive keyboards

[vagrant pagoda]

yeah

[pale sigil]

In the context of wooting

At least

[astral haven]

tho thats more for musicians

[vagrant pagoda]

i mean they have made like 5 boards

so you could have them all

well lik 7 if you count switchs

[pale sigil]

Who?

Wooting?

Because technically

In the context of including none consumer boards

More than 7 😅

[vagrant pagoda]

one, two, lekker, he, 60he and uwu

if you count the uwu as a keyboard lol

[pale sigil]

What about 60f

👀

[vagrant pagoda]

was there a difference in the founder and normal one?

[pale sigil]

I don't mean founder

[astral haven]

there was that special keycap edition or something?

[pale sigil]

There was a 60% before 60he

[vagrant pagoda]

yeah the one

[pale sigil]

The flare tech edition

[vagrant pagoda]

no one the one was tkl

derp

[pale sigil]

What

Oh ye

That was TKL

[vagrant pagoda]

that was offered for sale?

[pale sigil]

It was not

But it got close

[vagrant pagoda]

im not counting prototyles

stuff you could buy

[astral haven]

yea but how would you have spent money on it if it didnt go on sale lmao

[pale sigil]

Paying for the delivery cost to send to me

[vagrant pagoda]

thats not buying

thats giving

[pale sigil]

Ik im just kidding

[vagrant pagoda]

but yeah

[pale sigil]

Didn't realize you meant consumer ones

Just in general

But ye it didn't finish because Lekker development

[vagrant pagoda]

5 keyboards, 7 with haveing black/red flaretechs

[pale sigil]

It was nice though

[vagrant pagoda]

but the boards are hotsawp so idk if that even counts

[pale sigil]

If you count variations oh boy

Hahaha

[vagrant pagoda]

only if it is a different name

[pale sigil]

Well

More coming at least

Can't wait for the next one

People at wootup got a tease

[vagrant pagoda]

huh

my account is gone for the store>?

[pale sigil]

It shouldn't?

[vagrant pagoda]

There is no user record corresponding to this identifier. The user may have been deleted.

[pale sigil]

@vagrant pagoda correct email?

Recover account

Via password reset

What's the last wooting you bought

[vagrant pagoda]

dosent even say wrong password

two he

[pale sigil]

Recover password

[vagrant pagoda]

where is the option

[pale sigil]

When they did a big change you had to do this or make a new account

And it'll detect past products

https://hub.wooting.io/auth/forgot-password

[coarse cloak]

did you even make an account using the email you used to order

[vagrant pagoda]

yes

[coarse cloak]

then gotta recover

[coarse cloak]

cause a lot of people think that ordering -> an account is created

[vagrant pagoda]

revocer no work

[pale sigil]

@marsh glade

[reef patrol]

Mark can't do nothing to be fair.

[pale sigil]

Surely he could check if there's actually an account

[reef patrol]

You can throw me a PM with one of your old orders, and we can look into the account situation.

[reef patrol]

Tony can. Don't think Mark has access to those databases. No need.

[pale sigil]

Oh

[astral haven]

least privilege and all that bs

[vagrant pagoda]

sent all 3 of them

[pale sigil]

Well I'm mostly surprised as Mark usually has most access.

But I forgot Tony has backend

[reef patrol]

Future Tony handles all the cool interfaces. We generally don't need account data access.

[pale sigil]

Or well I was

[cursive summit]

Hire Fymrin to pentest the website

They'll do it for free or for a keyboard

[reef patrol]

[cursive summit]

Good mornin' lass

Nothing indecent

Maybe Wooting can secure their website and customer data by hiring you for security assurance

[coarse cloak]

gm

[fair gull]

server are impenetrable

famous last words for us

[reef patrol]

[empty wren]

Emoji to join rest of channels petition

Or at least captcha

Some server bots pull up a generated captcha

[fair gull]

wha

[reef patrol]

Discord has moved beyond that. We have onboarding now.

An actual system.

[empty wren]

What is onboarding?

[fair gull]

admins can now force new people to view servers or post messages in them

[empty wren]

Ah cool

[reef patrol]

Click the Channels and roles at the top of the channel list.

You can opt in and out of channels.

[empty wren]

Oh right

I member now, basically a survey before joining

[reef patrol]

Sort of yes. And the ability to go back and opt channels at any time. I added this back around new years.

[coarse cloak]

you can also make it so they need to accept the rules on the onboarding
pretty neat

[pale sigil]

It's good

[empty wren]

Lets be real people can skip that lol

[reef patrol]

They can ignore them. But we can tell them they 100% were presented with rules.

[coarse cloak]

^

[reef patrol]

So there's no "but I didn't know" excuses 😄

[empty wren]

Fair enough

[coarse cloak]

you NEED to checkmark it

[empty wren]

So basically legal agreement got it

[coarse cloak]

lowkey all you need to know when you're a decent person

[snow moon]

Fymrin, 20 minutes and a cup of coffee later:

💀

[cursive summit]

https://www.techspot.com/news/99423-lg-wants-you-buy-tvs-subscribe-built-content.html

Lol

This is actually amazing

All the shit apps like prime video and whatever will get paywalled and out of my face? Great

I don't use any of them anyways

This is horrible though

[astral haven]

yea but they wont get out of your face is the problem

[fair gull]

who or what is fymrin

[cursive summit]

Buying the product isnt enough, they always want more

[cursive summit]

Fymrin is shortened for fentanyl

Cause we all like drugs

[astral haven]

im ok with the framework version of more tho

im not ok with the samsung/apple/microsoft/lg/everyone else version of more

to be fair microsoft now has 1 screw ssd replacement now, but the fact that we are able to replace the ssd at all is in question is really sad
how far tech has fallen

[vagrant pagoda]

why i use a rooted antoird tv box

because none of the tvs dont have bloat

[astral haven]

yea but i like high quality video

the legit ways to get 4khdr are rather limited 😦

[fading ore]

I use a Xilinx zynq 7010 soc to handle playing videos

[vagrant pagoda]

it dose all the legit ways

and the non legit

[astral haven]

you can get 4khdr?

what box?

[vagrant pagoda]

yes

[fading ore]

works for every tv unless they paywall hdmi

[vagrant pagoda]

shield

[astral haven]

ah sweet

i was considering a shield
can you miracast?

without root i dont see how to, and havent seen anyone trying with root

[snow moon]

Your friendly neighbourhood local cybersecurity dabbler

[vagrant pagoda]

why miracast

[astral haven]

dex 😦

[vagrant pagoda]

why you want dex on tv

[cursive summit]

Hello, fentanyl

[astral haven]

not tv, monitor, but i dont want to have to boot up my pc, i want a single box to watch yt, disney+ :(, and whatever else i want
i currently have a chromecast 4k (without android tv) plugged straight into my kvm, and it cannot dex

[cursive summit]

Ngl sounds a bit much

[vagrant pagoda]

also isnt dex over hdmi?

[cursive summit]

My LG CX has homebrew store, from there I have Jellyfin

On PC, download whatever movie, series, whatever you want, drop into Jellyfin, automatically appears on TV

[astral haven]

dex supports hdmi, but my usb c port is dying, it cant charge and output video at the same time for some reason 😦

and its out of warranty

[cursive summit]

Jellyfin works for 4K HDR Dolby Atmos too, really well

Too bad I just don't watch anything that isn't anime

[vagrant pagoda]

yeah its what i use

[coarse cloak]

lmao

[vagrant pagoda]

get Space Adventure Cobra

[astral haven]

i watch the star wars tv shows 😠

[vagrant pagoda]

on bluray

its 4k hdr

[cursive summit]

Too old

[vagrant pagoda]

its good

[cursive summit]

I don't watch things earlier than 2000s

And less so 2010s

Mainly new series

[coarse cloak]

i just read
anime too slow, only like it at 1.5x but it feels odd to watch anime at 1.5x when i can just read

[vagrant pagoda]

also GITS in 4k is good

[cursive summit]

What now

[astral haven]

watch shows with better pacing lol

[coarse cloak]

anime bad, slow

I watched an anime with extreme pacing, still slow

[cursive summit]

So you hate cartoons in general?

[vagrant pagoda]

i havent seen Akira in 4k

[coarse cloak]

nah no hate, I just don't like the slowness

[astral haven]

good pacing doesnt mean fast

[cursive summit]

Most cartoons are similarly paced

[coarse cloak]

but you just said for me to watch something with better pacing

[cursive summit]

If you want action, go watch a shounen

[astral haven]

if its good pacing, it will take more chronological time, but feel very short

[coarse cloak]

I've done that, still slow

I'm good with one piece at 1x but I don't feel like watching something I already read

[cursive summit]

Fuckin tiktok generation has ruined children nowadays

Watch less short content

[vagrant pagoda]

have you tried watching them while not on stimulants

[coarse cloak]

I stopped watching anime at 2015, I don't watch short content

I don't watch reels or tiktok, I just got used to reading manga/manhwa/manhua fast
so anime is slow

that's like, super easy to understand lol

[cursive summit]

https://www.extremetech.com/computing/intel-docs-show-arrow-lake-up-to-21-faster-than-raptor-lake-refresh-graphics

I see, so that's what you are into

[coarse cloak]

exchanged anime with reading

[frozen ingot]

now that's just sad

[coarse cloak]

I spend my time watching stuff on videos that r news, podcasts and courses instead

[astral haven]

yea but the point of the medium is not to injest the story at maximum rate...

[vagrant pagoda]

wait

[cursive summit]

I can provide you with some doujin fixes

[vagrant pagoda]

anime is too slow

but NEWS is ok?

[cursive summit]

I know my doujin circles

[coarse cloak]

youtube on 1.5x is slow for you?

[coarse cloak]

I watch movies and shows at 1x its okay
((when I do))

just not anime, cba

[astral haven]

so find some anime that are as good as the shows you watch
there was an anime that i watched ages ago that had excellent pacing despite being extremely slow
it was a rather gritty take on isekai, not edgy, not a thriller, but moderately grimdark

i cant remember the name tho

[pale sigil]

Do you think it would be a bad idea to get a second router for my smart devices only

[coarse cloak]

I enjoyed watching blacklist and the originals
after that it's been hard to find something enjoyable enough to just sit down and watch on 1x tbh

[vagrant pagoda]

i have a $20 mini ap

[coarse cloak]

ohh some gritty ones are nice

[pale sigil]

But the access point still connects to your main router

[vagrant pagoda]

yeah but its on a different subnet

[astral haven]

grimgar

thats what it was called

[coarse cloak]

oo

lemme note it down somewhere

[cursive summit]

I've got a link for you, but it's borderline nsfw

So I feel shame to link it here

[vagrant pagoda]

https://tenor.com/view/shame-go-t-game-of-thrones-walk-of-shame-shameful-gif-4949558

[coarse cloak]

I kinda read so much manhwa/manga that watching anime feels like an extra time waste rn
need to soft drop some more stories tbh

[astral haven]

suited to different types of stories 🤷

Skrillex has joined the chat

[coarse cloak]

i didnt even see they were talking about doujins

[astral haven]

I was ignoring it as long as i could lol

[coarse cloak]

LOL

[fading ore]

Most smart devices do not generate enough load to impact modern routers. As long as you have a somewhat modern ARM/Broadcom processor, it wouldn't matter.

[pale sigil]

It's not that entirely

[fading ore]

If your router is running an intel processor, it might have trouble handling more than a couple devices.

[cursive summit]

yeah when you visit manga websites your brain automatically adjusts to ignore the nsfw shit

[coarse cloak]

true

[cursive summit]

Over time it becomes a habit over how much kink stuff there is

[pale sigil]

I want to separate my smart devices

I have like 2

20

And my router does sometimes not like that

[astral haven]

you say that, but dpi is super rough
and any router that has an intel processor is either to old to be useful, or new enough that its insano expensive, and beyond most of our means...

gotta remember that intel is the king of routing between 10 and 200GBPS
and when you get that high, you start looking at 7 digits...

[vagrant pagoda]

not true either

[fading ore]

I'm referring to consumer grade routers, not enterprise switches :3

[vagrant pagoda]

laughs in my 6 year old shitbox running opnsense

[astral haven]

intel doesnt make switch chips

[pale sigil]

My router isn't fancy

Ax1800 irrc

[vagrant pagoda]

it dose 5gbps+ and over 1gbps over vpn

opnsense

is the best

[pale sigil]

I plan to upgrade eventually but

Rn it's low priority

[astral haven]

but yea if you are home, intel doesnt make any router chips
the options are build your own router which will work well, and any modern intel chip will be insane overkill
same as any other x86 practically tbh

like ion here

[vagrant pagoda]

yeah

its a 4th gen i3

i have been thinking over trying openwrt

just because then ill be all linux

[astral haven]

hmm that would probably bog down under 1gbps if you were using ipsec or wireguard tho right?

dont think 4th gen has the fancy crypto accelerators of the new chips

[vagrant pagoda]

yeah they do

[astral haven]

hunh
did not know

[vagrant pagoda]

clarkdale had it

[astral haven]

i know for sure tho they got an order of magnitude faster at both 7th and ice lake

[vagrant pagoda]

still it goes fast

[pale sigil]

*brrr

[fading ore]

Intel makes Lantiq modems and puma processors commonly used in routers.

They are very low end hardware that generally are not capable of handling more than 2-3 devices.

[astral haven]

those have not been relevant for 10+ years

[vagrant pagoda]

yeah

[astral haven]

and neither of those use intel cpus, intel bought out the company that made them, then yeeted their router business

[pale sigil]

And it was so fucking bad

A few years ago

[astral haven]

they presumeably bought them for the modem IP, and that ip has now been sold to apple

[fading ore]

It's been in production up to 2019

[pale sigil]

Holy shit it made me pull my hair out

[fading ore]

The Lantiq PSB 83654M released in early 2019

A lot of people still have devices that run intel hardware

[pale sigil]

https://approvedmodemlist.com/intel-puma-6-modem-list-chipset-defects/#:~:text=Intel Puma 6 Defect Explained&text=Intel's Puma 6 chipset included,or simply surfing the web.

Drove me fucking nuts

[vagrant pagoda]

none of that is intel silcon though

[pale sigil]

Piece of shit Intel puma

[fading ore]

Tbf the intel modem's in iPhones have also been dogshit

[final flame]

@cursive summit @gusty kiln

[vagrant pagoda]

puma was intel silcon though

[pale sigil]

Genuinely the most stressful few months of my life

I was losing my mind

[cursive summit]

Bleh

Speakers

[final flame]

Lol

[fading ore]

on the models where they had split supply, the qualcomm modem iPhones had typically twice the bandwidth over LTE than Intel's

[final flame]

They're electrostats

[cursive summit]

I can't imagine pissing off my wife or neighbors with speakers

[pale sigil]

Then I saw threads on it and Intel made a statement

[cursive summit]

Also I like the privacy and intimacy of headphones meself

Speakers I understand why people bop to, but not for me

[final flame]

They're good if you own your own place

[gusty kiln]

Magnepan?

[astral haven]

those arent cpus, just pcie modems

[gusty kiln]

Oh electro stats

Interesting

[cursive summit]

I do have my own place, but it's in an apartment building with thin walls

So I'm fucked on that end

[vagrant pagoda]

that isnt your ownplace lol

[astral haven]

and the modems are fine enough, just barely functional
but they have zero routing capability

[final flame]

I have no idea what they are tbh, they were bought used from a widow selling her husband's hifi stuff

[gusty kiln]

Damn rip

[vagrant pagoda]

i live in a 50s poured concreat bunker

[final flame]

They are really nice tho, but require a shit ton of power

[vagrant pagoda]

so i let them rip

[gusty kiln]

Yeah

[vagrant pagoda]

my house is like a nightclub sometimes

you can just feel the bass outside

[gusty kiln]

Either a shit ton of current or voltage

[astral haven]

or both lol

[vagrant pagoda]

i mean

yeah

make sure your amp is rated for the impeedance of the speakers

[fading ore]

The processors are the SoC's that carried them, such as the Intel PXB4320ELV12

[vagrant pagoda]

or it wont have enough voltage to drive them

[fading ore]

Which are also dogshit

[gusty kiln]

Plug directly into the power grid

[vagrant pagoda]

lmao

[final flame]

These are like 86db spl, idk at what ohm

Probably 8

[gusty kiln]

Ginme dat nice 60hz hum

[vagrant pagoda]

86db spl

[astral haven]

that has been discontinued for 10+ years lmao

[vagrant pagoda]

isnt a speaker measurement

lol

[fading ore]

those were released in 2017

and discontinued in 2020

[astral haven]

cant find datasheets of a single chip with any processing cores from intel

just because it says "soc" doesnt mean it can route

[gusty kiln]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L9Ww_7wwNkM

I feel like all the amd advantage laptops have been flops

[fading ore]

Do you actually care to have a conversation or are you just going to keep saying random things without checking :/

[final flame]

Well idk the wattage or distance

[astral haven]

only thing i can find is the ax58u which uses an atom that is quite capable at routing (well at least in openwrt, dunno about asus' implementation)

[vagrant pagoda]

g14?

[vagrant pagoda]

dosent asus just skin openwrt?

or is that someone else

[astral haven]

they do now, they didnt used to

[gusty kiln]

Thought the most popular version was with the nvidia gpu

[fading ore]

There's pretty good RGB :3

[astral haven]

the ax58u probably is asuswrt, cant find it tho

[vagrant pagoda]

still same machine

[gusty kiln]

But it's not amd advantage anymore

It's gotta be amd cpu and gpu

[astral haven]

the cores are probably capable of dpi at 100mbps, vpn at 300mbps, and a gigabit of switching in the cpu (ignoring any switch hardware)

[vagrant pagoda]

also the amd gpus did well too

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oyClS3qQV10

[gusty kiln]

[astral haven]

yea but when you have the disadvantage of having radeon, who cares about the "amd advantage"

[gusty kiln]

[gusty kiln]

That's why I said "flop"

[fading ore]

The main disadvantage is the worse encoders and lack of support from most ML Libraries.

For most people they're fine

[vagrant pagoda]

and all the bugs

allllll of the bugs

[astral haven]

🤷 maybe this time radeon will release a driver without bugs

[fading ore]

I mean, Nvidia isn't without bugs. The Nvidia telemetry driver in windows 11 was bugged for 4 months

[gusty kiln]

Not a bug, it's a feature

[astral haven]

"decreasing performance slightly" isnt a bug

[fading ore]

It uses a constant 10-40% of your CPU

[astral haven]

🤷 thats not good, but thats not a bug with the gpu

[vagrant pagoda]

i mean same could be said for amd

its the drivers that suck

[astral haven]

i mean to some extent?

im talking specifically about an ill effect to the experience of playing the game

like the black screens

[gusty kiln]

Microcenter have a 7900xt for 699, not bad

[astral haven]

or the flickering textures

[fading ore]

Or the Nvidia GPUs that can't run cyberpunk or dead space on release :3

[astral haven]

heres the thing tho
you can find a complaint about a radeon gpu for every complaint about an nvidia gpu

[gusty kiln]

Nothing could run cyberpunk on release

[astral haven]

but nvidia is installed in 10x more pcs than radeon...

[fading ore]

Worked fine on older GPUs

[astral haven]

worked fine on the 3090

and 2080ti

[pale sigil]

3080 it sucked ass on release

I can confirm

The whole game did and still does

[fading ore]

Yes, I had better framerates on a 1060 :3

[pale sigil]

But not as bad as launch

Though I was on 1440p

[astral haven]

match settings and the fps will be alot lower lmao

[fading ore]

It wasn't, they had a bug in the 30 series drivers

it was patched a week after release

[astral haven]

🤷 i dont remember that, then again i bought the game the saturday after release, and played it that weekend

[pale sigil]

Idk man

[gusty kiln]

Euro Bethesda

[pale sigil]

Witcher 3 wasn't as bad as cp2077

[astral haven]

witcher 3 was worse lmao

[pale sigil]

Idk

You didn't T pose naked on a motorbike

[astral haven]

i played w3 in 2018 and i gave up after running into complete progression halting bugs 3 times in a row

[pale sigil]

Or die because you looked at a specific road sign

Or randomly have cars cause a nuclear disaster

[astral haven]

2077 never actually made me lose multiple hours of progress because a checkpoint vanished from the middle of a mission and i had to restart the entire section 3 times

[pale sigil]

Same

I also had death loops

Twice

It was impossible to get out of it

[astral haven]

happened in witcher tho

[pale sigil]

Not denying Witcher

Just saying I relate

At least Witcher became amazing

Meanwhile they gave up and cp2077 and said fuck it, we'll just rebuild a lot of the shit for the expansion

[fading ore]

Nvidia drivers also still does not report Vblank correctly to Ogl
It took them 3 years to add DMA Synchronization when it was a neccessary feature to run a large portion of applications.

[astral haven]

really my 2077 experience was very fun
i only clipped through a buildings that i was skyriming up the side of lol

[pale sigil]

2077 will go down as one of the worst games I've ever played

In my entire life

[astral haven]

yes but they do in fact render the colors they are requested to present lol

[pale sigil]

And it isn't just because it was a shit show

[cursive summit]

And people call me the hater

[pale sigil]

Story was horrendous

[cursive summit]

CP77 was fine

It was nothing that people wanted it to be

[pale sigil]

Characters were boring ag

[cursive summit]

And they did lie a bit about what the game would be

[pale sigil]

Jonny was an annoying crybaby edgelord

And

[cursive summit]

But like, it was a decent AAA game

[pale sigil]

The game wasn't remotely

What it was originally said to be

[cursive summit]

Better than what Ubisoft would come up with

[pale sigil]

Oh and it's first person

[cursive summit]

And they did end up fixing the game in the long term

[astral haven]

I got a solid 30 hours of fun and an hourish of tedium out of 2077
i got a solid 15 hours of fun and 8 hours of tedium out of w3

[cursive summit]

77 has good pace

Witcher 3 had a lot of time wasting

[pale sigil]

But the story is so bad omg

[cursive summit]

77 still remains visually some of the best

[pale sigil]

How can you like it

Especially when edgerunners exist

[astral haven]

🤷 i enjoyed it a ton

[cursive summit]

Story isn't actually that bad?

What are you hating about the story

[pale sigil]

It's so bad and cliche

[gusty kiln]

I enjoyed W3 more than 2077

[astral haven]

and i played it before watching edgerunners

[pale sigil]

I played before edgerunners too

[cursive summit]

It's Cyberpunk, the story is taken off of the board games

Corpos warring, mercs doing shit

Like, they could have done it better

[pale sigil]

The world itself is cool

[cursive summit]

But it wasn't bad

[pale sigil]

But the main story is shit

[cursive summit]

My main disappointment with it is that the game was linear

I was hoping for choices

[gusty kiln]

Yah

[cursive summit]

Ultimately no choices really matter apart from endings

[pale sigil]

Characters are beyond bland, except for Judy, she bae is

[fading ore]

Hey you got to pick your starting "class" which mattered for like 15 minutes

[gusty kiln]

Still waiting for a cool warhammer 40k story game

[cursive summit]

Class system did not need to exist

[fading ore]

It also didn't exist

🙃

[cursive summit]

They did have a bunch of quests about it

Cyberpsycho was supposed to become a feature I remember, and they are introducing it with the new DLC

Well, kind of

[pale sigil]

I'm gonna replay it with the new expansion, maybe I'll change my opinion

[cursive summit]

They are adding a cap to the cybernetics you can add to the character and you suffer stat penalties apparently if you go overboard

Not much of a cyberpsycho but eh

[gusty kiln]

That was one writer's fault, slowly fixing that

[halcyon moss]

I liked it, and story telling was pretty dang good IMHO. But I waited until it was stable.. Cdpr games suck at launch

[cursive summit]

It's fine now

And people do come around on it, the reviews are improving

[halcyon moss]

No shit

[cursive summit]

I hope that the DLC will make it similar to Witcher 3

Where it was shambles at start, and "best game" in the end

[gusty kiln]

40k version of WoW would be amazing

[halcyon moss]

@pale sigil wait till the dlc is stable etc :p

[astral haven]

I think tbh it was just incompatible with hdds at launch and they just improved the loading

[fading ore]

Witcher 3 suffers from the time it was released by a bit

[pale sigil]

Well ye

[fading ore]

the entire game was render fog and LOD

[cursive summit]

Tbf Cyberpunk just needs proper mod support, people will do the bethesda thing and fix the game for them

[gusty kiln]

Blood and wine was one of the best dlc of all time

[cursive summit]

Blood and wine I had one issue with

[astral haven]

I did definetly not have that problem lol

[cursive summit]

It took hours until you could even attempt the DLC

The level requirement was so high that most people would ditch the game by then

Hell I could finish W3 before being at the level blood and wine was at

[fading ore]

It's a preference thing. Game on max settings still did not draw shadows past like 20 meters, and there's constant render fog in every scene past around 100 meters.

[astral haven]

After the game broke, I went to nearest mountain and started climbing and got to the top and looked around and it was it was very very beautiful there's also really really boring and I couldn't continue the quest of the game

Let me see if I can pull up a old screenshot from there but I was definitely seeing a lot more than a hundred meters away

[cursive summit]

They might have fixed that

Didn't they remaster the game or something?

[gusty kiln]

Yeah

[cursive summit]

I forgot what they released, it was some big ass patch with new graphics and everything

[gusty kiln]

Free too

[astral haven]

I played in 2018 at the most recent so it wasn't the patch that released after cyberpunk

[cursive summit]

CP77 was probably the worst gaming blunder in history that I can remember

Such massive hype that broke in an instant

Company went from industry's best to the most shit on for years

[gusty kiln]

2042 is pretty close

[astral haven]

Yeah my problem is I'm really extremely incompatible with most reviewers I liked 2077 but I hated Skyrim

[cursive summit]

Ah yeah there was hype for that one

Idk I don't care for battlefield

Also, it's EA

I will not forget Anthem

[gusty kiln]

Anthem never even lived

[cursive summit]

I was a Warframer at the time, and Anthem seemed so damn good

[astral haven]

Titanfall 2 is one of my favorite games of all time

[fading ore]

This was on release:

[astral haven]

Anthem was supposed to be the TitanFall 2 destiny

[cursive summit]

Ah, the Nintendo Switch release graphics

[fading ore]

grass and shadows stopped being rendered after a short distance, terrain was replaced with projections past around 200 meters.

[cursive summit]

Though my game looked a lot darker than that, at least darker is what I remember

I kinda like that saturation

[fading ore]

Like it was on par for its time, but I also thought open world games generally looked terrible around that time

[cursive summit]

What was it, 2015?

Black Flag came out before that

[pale sigil]

We don't talk about the Witcher 3 switch edition

[cursive summit]

And that was fairly visually impressive for me

[fading ore]

This was on PC on max settings

[pale sigil]

It still is!

[cursive summit]

This game needs a damn remaster

Better texture quality

And that's about it really

[fading ore]

wow the trees don't become 2d after a few meters. Impressive :3

Cyberpunk was the first actual large open space game that I felt looked good, but you were confined to a dense city most of the time so it didn't really showcase it much

Elden ring did really good at actually showing it

[cursive summit]

Cyberpunk to me is the most open un-open game of all time

It's so vertically impressive

Yet so little happens vertically

Like, I would have liked a more big open world

[fading ore]

build issue :3

[cursive summit]

But it's so damn vertical

The details on skyscrapers are insane and there are so many of em

It's one of those games that I do feel like there's a proper future city there

But I also feel like they spent too much on the verticality and could have improved the rest of the game

Outside of the city it was a bit empty

[fading ore]

I think the verticality is fine if we had vertical movement

and less elevators

[cursive summit]

There is no vertical content tbf

[vagrant pagoda]

which sucks

[fading ore]

god the elevators sucked

[vagrant pagoda]

because cp2020 has a ton of vertical

[cursive summit]

Not much happens outside of quests

[vagrant pagoda]

same with cover and shit

[cursive summit]

I just want a game that has no locked areas

Every door is accessible

[fading ore]

Battlebit

[cursive summit]

But it seems a bit out of the reach for now

[cursive summit]

Cyberpunk-sized

[fading ore]

Lmao

Battlebit is larger

on some maps

[cursive summit]

As in, every room in a skyscraper is accessible, and there's hundreds of them

[fading ore]

yes

battlebit

[cursive summit]

But that's just unrealistic tbf

[coarse cloak]

procedurally generated murder mystery sounds interesting

[cursive summit]

AI will definitely be the big thing for the future

If you can generate new stories on the go, game devs can focus efforts elsewhere

Not to mention the opportunities to make a AAA game with simulation like Dwarf Fortress can actually be made now

Some NPC guy in the universe far away becomes stronger by defeating an unlikely opponent, and climbs the ranks until you run into him one day, or not

There are so many stories that could happen with AI's help

A proper simulation

[fading ore]

Preston would like to have a word :3

[cursive summit]

Radiant quests 🤢

Look, I like my Bethesda games

I don't like radiant quests

[fading ore]

A major issue with ML based actors in games is that AMD essentially has 0 support from any major ML libraries

since their compute sdk is complete dogshit

[cursive summit]

That, afaik, is wrong

@ashen spindle knows more about this shit

But rocm is doing fine

It's just sadly unsupported compared to CUDA

But technically it's fine

[astral haven]

Besides having bugs that hard crash Linux lol

[cursive summit]

Yeah as if Nvidia doesn't have those

[astral haven]

And the company that reported it said it wouldn't get fixed until the CEO personally cold emailed Lisa su

[fading ore]

It would if when I tried to figure out how to program for it and go to the documentation if any of the links worked.

https://github.com/amd/rocm-examples

[astral haven]

To be fair the kernel panic bug was found by running those examples lol

[astral haven]

Not only does Nvidia not have any issues anywhere near that severity, because of now Nvidias driver isn't in the kernel, it actually cannot have a similar issue whatsoever

[fading ore]

I'm a physics & computational data science phd, I've tried using AMD's framework since the ORNL cluster is only AMD GPUs. The documentation is substantially worse than cuda/cudnn and also lacks much community discussion.

Currently, even if it has feature parity over Nvidia's libraires, it is essentially impossible to use.