🔌│tech

[astral haven]

soon tm

[ashen spindle]

it would be nice for teams which means it wont ever happen from MS

[ashen spindle]

https://twitter.com/TechPowerUp/status/1669736400428695554

TechPowerUp (@TechPowerUp)

EU Approves New Smartphones Battery Regulations - Must be User-Replaceable by 2027 https://t.co/CwURqxqJFI

Twitter · Jun 16, 2023, 3:59 PM

[final flame]

nice

wonder how the designs are going to change

[ashen spindle]

idk well see in 7 years

[true quest]

return to tradition

[ashen spindle]

there is no way they dont get an extension for reasons

[final flame]

sliding plastic backs anyone?

[true quest]

i want the original razr back

just put a touch screen and i'm set

[ashen spindle]

we dont kill ourselves that fast quite yet so we have enough money to be relevant for them to sell here

not for high end

and making one design and reuse that is cheaper still

[frozen ingot]

eu has a lot of rich people buying the high end models

[astral haven]

If Apple adds video out on their phones and mouse support I might have to import a USBC replaceable battery iPhone from the EU

[frozen ingot]

so we're probably safe on that market

[astral haven]

Well that is of course assuming that they allow third party app installs

Yeah the EU has a ton of people in it and the Chinese aim for the low end usually

[final flame]

still would be nice if the US would actually follow suit of the EU

[astral haven]

Yeah well did you see the recent Rossman video about how the auto repair lobby is striking down car diagnostics?

[frozen ingot]

as long as US government cucks for the corpobros and the corpobros can successfully gaslight the population into letting them get away with it you won't

[final flame]

the issue is the US government system makes anything extremely slow to pass for the entire country

and lobbying also adds to that time, companies can hire basically infinite lobbyists and it would be worth it for them

[wheat plume]

https://youtu.be/DUUTHkQrYy0

[latent mural]

great video

[ashen spindle]

its not really anything more than random guessing keys though

[rancid turtle]

Hey, can anyone help me figure out how to properly add thhe function to lock the windows and Capslock keys?

[ashen spindle]

check the quickstart guide

https://twitter.com/SadlyItsBradley/status/1669828617218453508 neat

Brad Lynch (@SadlyItsBradley)

Running PC VR on the ROG Ally!

This is already working way better than I could have imagined. I’m excited to do more of these experiments!

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▶ Play video

Twitter · Jun 16, 2023, 10:05 PM

now gaben give deckard plz

[crisp granite]

this lol

[empty wren]

Could run some at lower graphic settings

I see

That reminds me the second one is probably the only consumer priced new headset with OLED now

Interesting

That sounds more like tech demo stuff

A larger ppi screen would help too

Pi max knows what it is doing

Just unfortunate those headsets are expensive as they are

And now it is what the hz race

That makes sense of course

Also their marketing is quite a bit deceptive too

12k means 6k on two screens

Anyways their screens are also huge

Less of the so called screen door effect

Would have been nice to try a varjo headset as well

Now that is cutting edge and would circumnavigate the 4080-4090 requirement

Also totally understandable since lenses vary

Some have ipd

Probably more helpful to low vision users

Probably

Facebook already put into the quest pro

Only a matter of time before it trickles down

Does htc even make any headsets anymore

I see

Hopefully they do not go out of business

There is cool stuff they do here and there

But as of lately not really sticking to many people wanting it

That vive flow looks nifty

Nearly all the headsets out now still look like heavy googles

Also hmm

The flow is what an nreal competitor

[crisp granite]

the XR Elite seems to get shredded in reviews

it's also at my top end of my "VR kit budget" if that makes sense

right at 1600

[empty wren]

What about valve index?

[crisp granite]

that's 1320

but it's outdated hardware with a replacement on the way

[empty wren]

Fair enough

Still a cool headset though

Interesting controllers

Room for modifications reminds me of old oculus kits

Seems like an OEM compatibility skill issue

Steamvr is open source

Also what is wrong with base stations

[crisp granite]

not everyone wants to take a power drill to their walls

[empty wren]

In first setup okay

[crisp granite]

also makes your headset pretty much useless unless you have a dedicated room to play in

because inside out is a lot more versatile with regards to playspace

[empty wren]

Is that not the norm

I mean alright

I imagine if they can build for steamvr

Then valve can eventually update their hardware to support it

[true quest]

why can't i use the psmove controllers with steam in a native manner

[empty wren]

Sony is a little

[true quest]

truly questions of the universe

[empty wren]

There are not even native Sony drivers or like from Sony for normal controllers

Could be a conflict of interest but I know Microsoft can play nice

Ah okay so sony decided to make an effort good on them

In that case I take my statement back and instead revise it to this energize psvr sells PlayStations partially

Interesting

Too bad controllers are now mostly basic

Like sure Sony got the tension thing in triggers on the dual sense but I heard that breaking in a few months

Wooting exists👀

Of course still not gonna be as granular

I would love to see a wooting or analog keyboard supported game

Fugl had supported they removed and said they would add it back but never did

Not a bad looking site in my opinion

But definitely not optimized well enough for responsive design

And whatever this is

Okay maybe you are right the closer I look at it, it makes me cringe more

Like seeing the white background behind some images in the nin marketplace section

It reminds me of taking an image off Google and just uploading to the site to have it, but no effort to make it feel complete

Maybe it looks fine on desktop

But the text contrast looks bad

On the market

That is in every dimension bad

Gray in gray just why

[fair gull]

m1 transcoding h264 to vp9 faster than my 2080ti and i7-9700k combined

and at less watts i would assume

man i wish i had a 12th or 13th gen intel cpu rn... would go so much faster with intel quick sync and their vp9 hardware encoder

[pale sigil]

M1 is a beast

[thick elk]

M1 is an interesting case of when a company takes the price performance power triangle and ignores the former just to focus on the later two.
Transcoding is just about the included accelerators and a poor indicator of overall performance. But yea it's a good chip made by a competent team.

[fair gull]

the fact it can do around half speed transcode in software only is impressive imo

at 1080p60fps

[vagrant pagoda]

https://www.lttstore.com/products/noctua-screwdriver

[frozen ingot]

noctua somehow pulled off making brown cool and desirable again

[hoary tendon]

yeah

ur pfp has noctua colors lmao

[ashen spindle]

https://www.anandtech.com/show/18805/amd-announces-alveo-ma35d-media-accelerator-av1-video-encode-at-1w-per-stream get a dedicated xilinx chip and that runs loops around quick sync

[fair gull]

quick sync doesnt even do vp9 on windows

linux only

also dont need av1 but vp9

[thick elk]

That seems rather stupid, if you have the hardware yet don't bother to support it on the main desktop os

[fair gull]

has to do with some low power mode that linux and macos both do but win doesnt

[ashen spindle]

I mean that one has more than just av1, but same thing, they have more accelerator cards than just this one, I just remembered this one from recently

[wheat plume]

I love the ArchLinux Tweak Tool <3

[raw zephyr]

you can do all of that in the terminal..

[wheat plume]

Yeah but you must know how to

[cursive summit]

https://www.macworld.com/article/1955668/apple-patent-abrasion-resistant-glass-metal-iphones-ipads-macs.html

Operation: price your phone at 1499$ entry price

Cause sheeples will always suck it up

[empty wren]

Watch it have a bit of tungsten carbide or something

And still scratches up like crazy

[cursive summit]

Tungsten's expensive

[frozen ingot]

so is apple

[cursive summit]

I mean, aren't most glasses "abrasion resistant"

Just make the phone shell out of glass

[empty wren]

Hah

The lint in your pocket will probably scratch it in time

[cursive summit]

I heard some of the stupidest shit yesterday

Some rich guys were discussing the 3499$ Apple AR goggles and were saying that "if you don't buy it, you a hater"

And that "Everyone will be wearing one in a few years"

[empty wren]

Apple sheep at their finest

[cursive summit]

People can't afford food and they think that people will buy some shitty ass VR goggles for 3499

[empty wren]

Also the ar aspect is difficult

Especially for the content side

[cursive summit]

I can't wait for those Apple goggles to sell badly

[empty wren]

They very well could

[wheat plume]

Idk
I think they'll be the standard in a few years
Because that's what apple does :/

Everyone laughed at the notch
Now it's standard on all phones

Everyone laughed at the airpods

[empty wren]

Nope

[cursive summit]

3499$ will NOT become commonplace

[wheat plume]

Now no phone had a headphone jack

[empty wren]

Most have holes now and are even moving away to underscore cameras

[cursive summit]

Prices dictate sales

[empty wren]

Most not all though

[wheat plume]

99% phones

[cursive summit]

Plenty of phones still retain a headphone jack

[empty wren]

Even high end ones

[cursive summit]

If Assmung continues to copy Apple, doesn't mean Asus, Sony, Chinese trash and others do

[wheat plume]

I think only Sony have them in the high end market

Then most budget phones have it too

[cursive summit]

Relatively sure those top end Snapdragon 8 gen 2 Zenphones have headphone jacks

[wheat plume]

Oo

[empty wren]

Rog phone has it then it disappeared people complained it came back

Some companies listen to buyers others do not

[wheat plume]

Most people these days prefer the wireless buds it seems

[ashen spindle]

not even sure what the issue is, people copying an actual XR headset instead of just staying at low range like the quest is going to make the market more viable

[wheat plume]

Especially people who spend flagship prices on a phone

I think Apples headset will sell and become a norm soon :/
Despite the price

[empty wren]

Well the idea of airpods also caught in, google, Samsung basically every company has some Bluetooth offering

[wheat plume]

Yeah
Same for notches
Same for removing the jack
Same for removing SD card support

[ashen spindle]

and next gen headsets will be coming down in price a lot because panels and all are being made in much bigger quantities and costs go down

[wheat plume]

Same for removing SIM trays soon too
I'm sure Samsung will copy Apple on that next year

They tend to make fun of Apple then copy them afterwards

[empty wren]

Actually removing the sim tray personally I would say is smart

[ashen spindle]

yes esim should be the norm

and we had that specific topic multiple times already why there isnt really any negative to it

[empty wren]

https://youtu.be/QdTtXls_lx0

[wheat plume]

No
Maybe in the US and Europe
But a lot of places do not have eSIM

And those sim card vending machines at airports are very useful to buy a prepaid sim while on holiday

Can't do that if your phone is eSIM only

[ashen spindle]

ok so get an esim for that location then

[empty wren]

Apple did not push an esim iphone international yet anyways

[ashen spindle]

nothing stopss vendors to sell prepaid-like esims that people only use like a sim from airports for vacation

[wheat plume]

Yeah
European iPhones will also have USB C hehe

[spice fulcrum]

just buy hk version with 2 sim slot

[wheat plume]

How do you sell eSIM from an automated machine?

[cursive summit]

Different regions can have different hardware, and fail to support certain bandwiths

[empty wren]

You scan a barcode

[cursive summit]

So you'd be locked out of some carriers

[empty wren]

It really is that simple

[ashen spindle]

scan qr code, follow steps

[spice fulcrum]

wym different hardware it just change lil bit about software

[empty wren]

Also that is unrelated to esim

That is already the case with regular sims

[cursive summit]

I still like my microsim for now

[empty wren]

Not nano?

[ashen spindle]

you go to the vending machine, select esim instead of sim if you dont do it online beforehand and get this and they stock it like a normal sim card

[wheat plume]

Oh

You can download them from qr code

Interesting

[ashen spindle]

well yes the point is that its not physical...

[cursive summit]

So ESim is some digital signature basically for identification?

[wheat plume]

Oh.....right lol

Oo
Volte

Or is this different?
Maybe it actually needs wifi and not mobile data ?

[empty wren]

Sorta

[wheat plume]

Yeah that's what I just did xd

[empty wren]

It probably does need wifi to contact the carrier though

Since without a sim cannot do a refill or pay for a plan since no access to the limited data network

[wheat plume]

I think my phone knows my mobile data in unlimited

Idk how you explicitly tell it that without setting a limit manually

[empty wren]

I mean like let us say you ran out for the month

And maybe you did not feel like paying for the current month

But then later you are somewhere out and about where this no public wifi

You can go ahead and do a refill if you have the physical sim card

[wheat plume]

Hmmm

[empty wren]

Esim probably lets you do the same already after the first setup

But point is once you get a sim card

You got data access

For esim you need to activate it first to get it

[empty wren]

Just do not touch data limit/warning

[wheat plume]

I haven't

It had one set by default for 20mb ....
It never told me that and I started to update the apps and suddenly my mobile data stopped working and I freaked out thinking this ROM just broke or some shit

[spice fulcrum]

[spice fulcrum]

blud hotspot for a pc

[wheat plume]

I don't have wifi

My phone is the only way to get internet connection on other devices at home

[spice fulcrum]

i know why rn

just curious why you can use that much

💀

i mean how

[ashen spindle]

180gb aint much lol

[spice fulcrum]

nah i only use like 150gb with wifi

a month

[ashen spindle]

I use that much in a week lol

[wheat plume]

Last month I use 718gb

[empty wren]

Here you would be approaching the 1tb limit

On wifi providers

[spice fulcrum]

ah nvm

[wheat plume]

1tb limit?

[empty wren]

Yeah a bunch of limit data on wifi in the us to 1tb now

[wheat plume]

I'm sure when we were in college with all my friends on the same router
We used way more than 1tb of data a month

[spice fulcrum]

so isn't it 70gb a week

[wheat plume]

Xd

[wheat plume]

Ah
But I'm not in the US

[crimson wigeon]

So just wire it up with the etherwebs then ecks dee

[wheat plume]

Does the person I'm calling also need this wifi calling enabled too?

[empty wren]

I thought wifi calling is just for when data sucks

[crimson wigeon]

Not really, it just makes it so your calls go over whatever wifi network you're connected to instead of mobile data. This might be make for a more stable connection in some cases, but if the internet connection your wifi network gives you is just mobile data it's literally no difference

[wheat plume]

What happens on my case then?
I only have mobile data

[empty wren]

Probably nothing

[wheat plume]

I hate having to update mom's phone

She's got 31 app updates on the play store
She's got 7 MIUI apps to update in the system settings

Why can't Google Play still not download more than one at a time?

Download, install
Repeat until done

Why not download them all and install as they download?

So if one downloads sooner you install that then queue the next one

[ashen spindle]

the download you get also need to be written on the storage so could be write limited

[wheat plume]

I'm sure that won't happen on any decently powerful phone?

Like 400 dollars are above

[ashen spindle]

idk if I'd call that decently so no clue

[wheat plume]

You can buy phones for 200 dollars that can play basically any mobile game these days

So yeah
400 dollars is definitely decently powerful

[ashen spindle]

that doesnt really matter though, you can have the strongest chip and play at 90fps on phone and bad storage that is write limited

[wheat plume]

I guess yeah

[empty wren]

steam downloads one a time lol

[wheat plume]

``The Pixel 8 and 8 Pro's display specifications have been leaked.

Once again, Kamila Wojciechowska, via Android Authority, publishes info on displays in upcoming flagships, thanks to a source inside Google:

• Flat display in both models

• Display size :
○ Pixel 8: 6.17-inch; 64x143mm; Corner radius: 102px;
○ Pixel 8 Pro: 6.7-inch; 70x155mm; Corner radius: 115px;

• Resolution:
○ Pixel 8: 2400 x 1080; 427 PPI;
○ Pixel 8 Pro: 2992 x 1344; 490 PPI;

• Brightness in HDR content mode:
○ Pixel 8: 1400 nits
○ Pixel 8 Pro: 1600 nits

• Refresh rate:
○ Pixel 8: 120Hz; Refresh rate steps: 10Hz, 30Hz, 60Hz, 120Hz;
○ Pixel 8 Pro: 120Hz; Refresh rate steps: 5Hz, 10Hz, 30Hz, and a smooth change in refresh rate from 60Hz to 120Hz. For example, content at 24fps can now be shown at 72Hz.

• The Pixel 8 Pro features a panel from Samsung, while the regular Pixel 8 can have two panel options: BOE and Samsung.
``

[fair gull]

there is almost no cards for vp9 though since vp10 got turned into av1

so everything now focuses on that

[ashen spindle]

ah

[fair gull]

makes sense since av1 is a ton better than vp9. but in this case i need to transcode 2 files of a collection where the collection is all vp9 besides those 2 files which are h264

[reef patrol]

To be fair Steam doesn't do patches.

It just redownloads the game.

[crimson wigeon]

? yes it does do patches

[reef patrol]

No?

[crimson wigeon]

You've never noticed it taking a long time to patch certain games?

[reef patrol]

Literally no, never. Only if you're trying to install something from scratch because it's decrypting and unpacking.

[crimson wigeon]

Guess you've been lucky then in your choice of games

[ashen spindle]

dead by daylight downloads 20mb then takes literally 30 minutes on my pc do patch

they use the worst way to patch and unzip files

[reef patrol]

I have literally never seen Steam do this. I am kind of mindblown 😄

It's always been "oh this 4GB file is changed, we'll redownload it"

Because of how Steam's whole "builds" approach is.

[ashen spindle]

I'm pretty sure it depends on how the devs do it

[reef patrol]

Now I have to wonder if it will fallback to that behaviour if you change the build on a game that's already been patched.

Cause it obviously won't be able to back-patch.

[crimson wigeon]

Basically games that stuff all files into a few humongous files take forever to patch

[reef patrol]

Never seen this behaviour.

[ashen spindle]

yeah legit redownloading DbD is faster for me than some of their patches

[wheat plume]

Patching euro truck simulator takes FOREVER on deck ;_;

Much much slower than downloading the update

[crimson wigeon]

Oh look Payday 2 has been a notorious example of this
See? Patching! 2.7 megs to download, and then the actual file(s) being patched are close to 500 megs

[reef patrol]

Fascinating. I still wonder how it handles build changing though.

[ashen spindle]

what do you mean build changing

[reef patrol]

Changing to a different build of a game.

Typically used for betas or rolling back a game to an earlier patch to keep playing (Paradox swears by this approach)

Take V Rising. I can switch builds to a version that it from last year.

[ashen spindle]

uhhh, exactly the same?

[reef patrol]

Or one that's a month old.

Can't just "patch" that.

[ashen spindle]

why not

[reef patrol]

My brother in christ because that is not how patching works.

It goes from one specific version of a file to another.

Otherwise it needs a full replacement (or in the case of large archives, unpacking, replacing contents individually and repacking)

[ashen spindle]

uhh no you can definitely patch to a differnet build version sicne you can just patch the difference in a file

[reef patrol]

Only if you have literally every combination of file stored.

1.1 to 1.2 would not be the same as 1.1 straight to 1.5

Code shifts, lines change, and textures/meshes are completely compressed from scratch.

There's a reason why CRC checks are performed, and if a file is even the slightest bit out of sync, the patch process fails.

[ashen spindle]

uhh you can version the changes and then can change by knowing the total changes and patch from 1.1 to 1.5

[reef patrol]

Yeah if you patch every step one by one maybe.

That's not a patch. That's a series of them.

[ashen spindle]

its a bit harder if binary files but that just means it takes more cpu cycles

no

in one step

[reef patrol]

No.

replace line 45 with NEW CONTENT

error: Line 45 does not match original content this patch expects, you done fucked up, rolling back patch attempt.

If your "patch" had to account for every single build released ever to function like you describe, it's literally just replacing the file at that point.

[ashen spindle]

yes if you oversimplify it like that it would not work hence it takes more than a simple text comparison but that just means the algorythmf or it does that before it gives the patchdata and then patches it

[wheat plume]

https://youtu.be/CV4orjR-kcg

Ok
This is mega awesome
It's arm though
So you are limited to how well Windows handles being on arm

[ashen spindle]

but there are versioning tools that can store binary files like alienbrain or perforce without storing the entire thing and you can just cobble that into patch data and apply it without replacing the entire file

[wheat plume]

So thin wtf

Would be awesome with Linux on there I think
Especially gnome desktop being so good for touchscreen

Snapdragon 8CX Gen 3

[pale sigil]

Fuck Windows

If I'm using arm

Tbf

Linux is greay with arm

[pale sigil]

Why are you surprised

It's just a tablet from first glance

[ashen spindle]

pretty sure windows on arm is doing better than ever

[pale sigil]

Ye but

Windows

[ashen spindle]

ok but why does it change on arm

[pale sigil]

600nits

Ooft

Big ooft

[pale sigil]

True

[wheat plume]

Linux is still better on ARM than Windows is

but Windows is improving too

[ashen spindle]

better in what metric

[pale sigil]

Damn

Looks easy to replace the nvme drive

[wheat plume]

More app supports

Yeah, it is! there is a slot undder the stand

[pale sigil]

It's a shame about 60hz

Tbh

Considering how common 90-120hz panels are now

[ashen spindle]

so then if you need some apps that dont work on arm linux is better but the os itself isnt really better or worse

[pale sigil]

I'm actually surprised about the csgo gameplay

Idk why considering

I do like it a lot though

[wheat plume]

A few years ago, I was extremely tempted to get a Surface tablet

and then I saw that Eve was making a competitor for cheaper that also came with the keyboard and that was tempting too but I ended up getting a laptop

The Smart Folder feature in MacOS Finder IS SO COOL

[ashen spindle]

as a fan of steam deck you should buy a surface to show solidarity

[ashen spindle]

the apu in the deck was made for surface originally after all

[wheat plume]

No

[ashen spindle]

yes

[wheat plume]

The APU in the Deck is custom made

for the Deck

There is no other device using that APU

[ashen spindle]

Microsoft and AMD work to make an ultra low power chip for surface -> van gogh -> MS cancels the project for whatever reason -> valve wants to make steam deck and talks to AMD -> van gogh gets tweaked from its original design but the base parts stay -> apu is now called Aerith and powers the deck

[wheat plume]

🤔

I see

[pale sigil]

deck uses Linux

[ashen spindle]

and?

how does that relate to SoC design

[wheat plume]

wat?

Is there no print screen button on Macbook keyboards?

oh, shift, command, 3

[muted flax]

are pom jelly keycaps worth buying? / should i buy them?

[halcyon moss]

It's a truly terrible command

[wheat plume]

yep

[wheat plume]

My data speed has been absolutely HORRIFIC .-.

since coming back from the trip

can barely get 1MB/s download on Steam now

Before I used to get between 12-18

[fair gull]

the 3h video took 7hrs to transcode (i assume the transcode speed fluctuated a bit due to how warm my room is and how much heat the fan can remove)

now i need to just get

[wheat plume]

mobile data in Ireland is uh....

not fast

even 5G was barely any faster than that

[raw zephyr]

i read the past messages, why did you transcode to vp9 ?

[fair gull]

to make the collection of videos all vp9

and not hundreds of vp9 and 3 in h264

[raw zephyr]

i c

[empty wren]

But avi exists

[raw zephyr]

i usually just have everything in h264, sometimes hevc

[fair gull]

now its just 1 file thats not vp9

the main reason they are all vp9 is that they are yt dumps

[empty wren]

Oh

[fair gull]

i just didnt have time to grab these 3 files in vp9 source from yt so i had to settle for h264

[raw zephyr]

surprised it only took 7 hours

[fair gull]

m1 pretty good

on my gaming pc it would have took a good 5 times the video runtime

not just slightly above 2

[raw zephyr]

u got the m1 air? the fanless one?

[fair gull]

m1 in mbp

so fan

[raw zephyr]

i c

[fair gull]

it still must have dipped at some point

[raw zephyr]

i wonder how quick i'd throttle on my m1 air

[fair gull]

because it started at like .6x tanscode speed

[empty wren]

Just liquid cool it problem solved

[fair gull]

the real question would be how often do you need to transcode such long files

[raw zephyr]

never rofl

[fair gull]

once the last one is done in vp9 ill prob never need a vp9 encoder either

i think my phone has a hardware vp9 encoder

yes it does

now i wonder if theres a vp9 transcoder for android

[reef patrol]

inb4 recoding your entire Plex library.

[raw zephyr]

i just tried vp9 ffmpeg on my 9900k

frame= 960 fps= 26 q=26.0 Lsize= 21207kB time=00:00:07.99 bitrate=21738.5kbits/s speed=0.218x

[fair gull]

.2

my i7-9700k gets .18

or so

[reef patrol]

how

[fair gull]

on cellular is what surprises me

[wheat plume]

It was decently fast before the trip lasst week ... s it wasnt that bad

[fair gull]

on wifi i somewhat get it

[wheat plume]

plenty fast to download games and videos at same time

[raw zephyr]

try -cpu-used=2

https://trac.ffmpeg.org/wiki/Encode/VP9#CPUUtilizationSpeed

[fair gull]

i tried with 8cores and tiling

but the best i got was .3 and dropping

ffmpeg -i 20210623-【スパチャ読み\ -\ SUPACHA\ Reading】10Q\ DAYO【\#天野ピカ ミィ\ -\ \#pikamee\ 】-QyI21PiLqzI.f299.mp4 -c:v libvpx-vp9 -threads 8 -speed 4 -row-mt 1 output.webm

thats the command i used for pretty decent speed

[raw zephyr]

oh yeah you use the legacy speed switch

[fair gull]

going above 4 didnt help

(obviously tested the same comman d on macos and win)

but in the end win always settled closer to .18 and macos stayed around .6 for the same time

[raw zephyr]

it would be interesting to see how some of the new ryzens would perform

[fair gull]

considering that my cpu prob uses like 150w more i used the mac

[raw zephyr]

have u tried interpolating videos?

[fair gull]

?

[raw zephyr]

interpolating the fps

240 source -> 960 -> frameblend to 60

makes a nice natural motionblur

https://youtu.be/7jUCQMFvGUc

[fair gull]

who wants motionblur though

[raw zephyr]

it's nice for fragmovies

[fair gull]

epyc 7702P get .38 render speed at 10threads

[raw zephyr]

you can get to places with 120fps source and rife / svpflow

https://nmkd.itch.io/flowframes

without too many artifacts

120 fps source, rife to 240fps, frameblend back to 60 https://youtu.be/ofVKNtyaH7s

same source, rife to 480fps, 60 frameblend https://youtu.be/rP-Yo7_rzYU

[gusty kiln]

@prisma crag what do you think of the first episode of s2 of snw?

[molten wraith]

quake live 🥹

[raw zephyr]

wym

it's mind boggling to me that with encoder as powerful as nvenc, people still record their gameplay in 60 fps

[ashen spindle]

disk space is not unlimited and file size matters for uploads

[raw zephyr]

av1 is a thing on 4000 series cards

if disk space is an issue

[ashen spindle]

av1 cant be used everywhere yet, 4000 series is still a small% of users

[raw zephyr]

it can be used for recording gameplay

obs got nvenc av1 implemented about a month after 4000 cards launched

[ashen spindle]

handbrake still doesnt have av1 nvenc last I checked or just in beta

and not for amd cards yet

[marsh glade]

I have a Rimworld file that's like 600gb so obviously disk space isn't a concern for me

[reef patrol]

[raw zephyr]

ffmpeg is your friend

[ashen spindle]

handbrake uses ffmpeg for av1 I'm pretty sure

but I want a gui and not deal with cmd when I cut a 2min clip from shadowplay

[raw zephyr]

you just have to pass the correct encoder, av1_nvenc iirc

https://github.com/mifi/lossless-cut

and you can make a simple batch script that re-encodes it

[ashen spindle]

huh that looks like it might be a bit better than handbreak neat

[raw zephyr]

ffmpeg -i %1 -c:v av1_nvenc -cq 32 -c:a copy out.mp4

this should do the trick i think

you just drop it in SendTo, you could even implement simple cutting with ffmpeg

even vp9 is not as spread out

what was that "new" low-end amd card that didn't even have hardware accelerated hevc

[ashen spindle]

6400 bc that was a laptop card on a desktop board

[raw zephyr]

i c, interesting

i just remember that being a thing, but couldn't recall the name

[fair gull]

vp8/vp9

[ashen spindle]

elon wants it to be the one platform for everything

so might get some features and soon asks you for ID and becomes western we chat

[raw zephyr]

elon's metaverse

i got xai.zone domain

there are so many TLDs nowadays

lmfao

no idea

[wheat plume]

gTLD?

whts the g about?

[raw zephyr]

talking about domains, google domains has been acquired by squarespace

[wheat plume]

🤢 EW NO

[ashen spindle]

whats so EW about that?

[raw zephyr]

i wonder what's the deal price

https://archive.is/YCFbt if anyone is interested

[fair gull]

the g means generic

so not country specific

[wheat plume]

ooohhh

right right

[fair gull]

basically the program means anyone can buy a tld for 100k or so and they need to prove that they can run the TLD root DNS servers for a certain amount of years

[wheat plume]

people really still think steamOS is based in Debian.... ffs

Also wtf are these shortcuts ?
Petal?
Lobe?

[frozen ingot]

https://tenor.com/view/actually-bored-ackchyually-gif-14423655

ackshually itch arch

[wheat plume]

Itch Arch indeed

[frozen ingot]

technically its also debian

[wheat plume]

But this is a steam deck article

[frozen ingot]

there exists versions of it based on debian, so steamos is also debian

[wheat plume]

Yes
But not steam deck version

And this article is about steam deck

[frozen ingot]

you should send them an achshually email

[wheat plume]

TIL Game Mode was in 60Hz this entire time while docked ....

Ffs

I just swapped it over to 165Hz

Much better

[astral haven]

Not like the deck can handle more tho lmao

[wheat plume]

It definitely can in some games

Why is Bedrock locked to 60 still??? I have it set to native resolution in the properties

Shouldn't be 60...

[astral haven]

Check in game settings

[wheat plume]

I did...set to unlimited fps

😢

why is my data speed so garbage .-.

since the last week

[frozen ingot]

russian haxxors

[wheat plume]

I had to spend a week using public wifi

probably could be ....

Maybe I should fully reinstall my phone

UGH THIS IS PAINFUL

just downloading a new version of Minecraft is taking so fucking long

[frozen ingot]

I get bored of that game after half hour these days

played it to death too many times since the alpha

[wheat plume]

Should I just go into my phone carrier shop and ask them about this?

Cause its stupidly slow

this is the first time in YEARS that youtube dropped down to fucking 360p on me

the video was only 6 minutes long also .-.

[frozen ingot]

am sitting here on 100/10 and thinking damn this shit too slow sometimes

[wheat plume]

.-.

bruh

gimme that shit

[frozen ingot]

want that 250/250 upgrade

[wheat plume]

ITS BEEN 10 MINUTES

to download fucking 120mb

[frozen ingot]

but quite a lot more money for something I could need 5% of the time I use the internet or less

[wheat plume]

then dont get the upgrade?

[frozen ingot]

yeah that's like 5-10 seconds here

want it though

[wheat plume]

yeah, same for me usually .-.

but its been pure shit since I gfotr back from the trip

[frozen ingot]

so we can download game on steam while playing online simultaneously without having to lock the dl speed so much

[wheat plume]

oh...

ok I did that

lemme do a download on steam and check

Looks promising...

its almost to the speed it used to be

but its bearable now!

yay

@prisma crag smort

[pale sigil]

Ye I'm returning this phone :/

[latent mural]

How come?

[pale sigil]

It's just bad

[latent mural]

Ah fairs, hopefully you find one you like eventually :)

[pale sigil]

I'm sad because I love this phone

So fucking much

[frozen ingot]

looks normal to me

[nimble canopy]

im happy i dont have battery life that bad with graphene os

[plain kite]

which phone is it

[pale sigil]

Pixel 7a

[plain kite]

damn

im thinking abot getting a pixel 7

[ashen spindle]

yeah apple wants to make sure nobody knows your info... aside from themselves of course

[pale sigil]

@plain kite

[astral haven]

which is smaller and lighter than the biggest iphone

[frozen ingot]

apple might be better at privacy than google, but its really not a high bar to clear

[astral haven]

in fact its lighter than the medium iphone

[astral haven]

and they arent better at privacy, they just pretend to be

[frozen ingot]

I mean they kind of are in that they don't share the info to third parties, but they still look at it themselves

[astral haven]

🤷 thats only true if you subscribe to apples definition of third parties

and its not if you apply apples definition of third parties to google

anyone you install an app from on your phone is considered first party by apple

[frozen ingot]

googles data hoarding and sharing goes far beyond just your devices too

[astral haven]

except with google you do in fact have controls available to manage that

and im not even in the eu

[frozen ingot]

and half the time these controls are proven to really do nothing

[astral haven]

citation needed

[frozen ingot]

its pretty well known phones track your location data for instance despite turning that stuff off

[astral haven]

🤷 if you use location services, it tracks your location data

if you dont, it doesnt

[frozen ingot]

sure, if that makes you sleep better

[astral haven]

i use it and that data exists and is used
my dad doesnt use it and that data doesnt exist and cant be use

[astral haven]

🪞

but we are talking about apple vs google not cannonical or mozilla

apple and google heavily rely on user data
apple just uses as cagey wording about it as they can to avoid admitting to anything that may make them look bad

cannonical and mozilla do have more complete and open privacy settings, and as they arent publicly traded, they dont actually need the data

[wheat plume]

Almost

[astral haven]

ye, gotta download it now before the recc spec increases lol

[wheat plume]

Is it???.

[astral haven]

technically its just for the dlc, but if the dlc needs higher specs I dont see how the base game wouldnt once they release the update...

[wheat plume]

Oh

Thanks Google...not a very good description of what this is

[astral haven]

yea thats another google problem
complete lack of documentation for many many features

[wheat plume]

Yep...
Even in their own app changelogs

And then they go off about third party app developers not including a proper changelog for apps in the play store

Yet they don't do it either

[astral haven]

Because apple redefines words to mean things that are different from the normally accepted definitions...

[ashen spindle]

apples definition of privacy is they have all your data if they could xD

[astral haven]

Health? Maybe I've never opened health tho
Safari definetly not as they don't support adblockers or any privacy enhancement features besides a vpn

If the eff says it's not private, I'll trust them

[wheat plume]

Safari has ad blocker built in, right?

[astral haven]

Popup blocker

[wheat plume]

I know it has some privacy things like removing tracking shit from links and whatnot

[astral haven]

And it doesn't allow any cuatomization

Nope

[empty wren]

Apple knows best

[astral haven]

Eff tested it and they found it didn't work

[wheat plume]

Oh

[astral haven]

To be fair the eff also failed basically every other browser besides the Tor browser

But it was trading blows with chrome without a Google account and firefox

[wheat plume]

Xd

[empty wren]

How about orfox

[astral haven]

They tested popular stuff + Tor
Don't remember if they tested orfox

[empty wren]

Alright

Gonna guess edge was not good either

[astral haven]

Actually it was tied with the others basically

[plain kite]

Should be good for me it lasts a day for my friend

Ik battery life depends on the user

Some people be on their phone for 16+ hrs that’s crazy

To me

[empty wren]

Battery saver maybe even extreme battery saver

I knew someone who used their device in battery saver

[plain kite]

Oh

[empty wren]

Also my uncle does too

Some people can live with no vibrations

[plain kite]

But shouldn’t the pixel 7 be good for me if it lasts a day

[empty wren]

Yeah so pleasant has the 7a

Not the 7

[plain kite]

Bc so far from everyone they said it lasts a day

Oh

[pale sigil]

7a has larger battery too

Makes no sense

[empty wren]

Google messed up

You can check their issue tracker

[pale sigil]

My return window closed on the 17th

[empty wren]

Probably already on it

[pale sigil]

Oops

[empty wren]

To be fair besides needing a software remedy the pixel 7a is a great phone especially for the price

[pale sigil]

It is but again

Shit battery

[empty wren]

Well just star the issue if it exists then, google goes through stuff on there

Also try safe mode if possible

[pale sigil]

Bruh wtf

[empty wren]

Ah look someone else mentioned it good on them

Strange that the I have the same question is 0

That gsm arena test is pretty accurate I would think

[pale sigil]

I can't even get 4 hours doing normal shit

Never mind games

[empty wren]

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.gsamlabs.bbm

[pale sigil]

Better than a accu battery?

[empty wren]

Accubattery is good

But can it give you in depth app info like wakelocks?

[empty wren]

Well it does show some good statistics

[pale sigil]

Even this estimates way longer

Lol

[empty wren]

At the least I guess compare it to gsam

It may pick up on something accubattery does not

If it still is hidden google has got explaining to do

[pale sigil]

I'll keep it running

[empty wren]

Alrighty

[pale sigil]

Love this phone

But my god lol

At least the idle issue was fixed

Also extreme power mode is so much worse than MIUis version

[empty wren]

Yeah I might have a similar issue

[pale sigil]

On general MIUi does way better battery optimization o think

[empty wren]

I lost 4% over night

[pale sigil]

Might genuinely get to 100%

Wack YouTube open and let it run

As a test

[empty wren]

reviewer test

You could also just use it for a few days normally

But sure trying a different approach cannot hurt

[wheat plume]

I have the Emoji Workshop wallpaper now....

I thought this was meant to be an Android 14 thing?

[latent mural]

Is wooting's macro hardware input?

[empty wren]

When you do not run stock

Not sure how that correlates

Hah

Probably need root to mine that out

Also thank Google for the isolated file system

Makes it even more tricky to access

Oh crap I thought that was a build your app tool

Not a whole system tool

Definitely gonna install that later

[hybrid dove]

does anyone elses keyboard kinda spasm out when they plub in their tablet or controller. The keyboard stops working entirely and i have to unplug and replug it in then go back and upload my preset again

[vagrant pagoda]

you dont have enough usb power

[empty wren]

Also disable the controller option for the keyboard if you are using a dedicated controller it will most certainly interfere

[hybrid dove]

like the controller option

in wootility?

[dusk kayak]

@astral haven @sacred sleet thing came so fast even w free shipping, i pulled the trigger and got one lol

[astral haven]

Nice

[sacred sleet]

Yeaaaaah

Trust me, that extra side button is so good

[dusk kayak]

gotta say it feels fantastic

[sacred sleet]

What games do you play?

[dusk kayak]

10x better than my old razer

mostly COD

valorant and CSGO gonna start soon

just been grinding cod recently

[sacred sleet]

That’s my weight set up

I don’t know how you want yours

But because my arm is mostly on the table I find only having that weight at the bottom let’s me move left and right easier

[dusk kayak]

its supposedly the same weight as my old razer but it feels way lighter like in general

[sacred sleet]

This is how I usually have it

[dusk kayak]

not even bc of the brand new glides on the bottom

[dusk kayak]

im the same way

[sacred sleet]

I’d suggest that. But once again. This is personal feel, so I understand it not feeling good

[dusk kayak]

im thinking about getting superglides

no i honestly like it

it feels great

[sacred sleet]

Having them at the top was so hard for tracking

[dusk kayak]

my old razer was way too heavy felt like i was dragging it most of the time

[sacred sleet]

I play apex, and I needed that light feel

[sacred sleet]

Yeah. Heavy mice are not the play for me

[sacred sleet]

It’s to clunky and makes micro adjustments harder

[sacred sleet]

Wait

YOU CAN GET THOSE

Bruh

How have I not known 😭

[dusk kayak]

hahahaha i havent bought em yet

[sacred sleet]

I need those asap

My old skates are dirty than a stand ups jokes

[dusk kayak]

hahahah

[sacred sleet]

😂😂

[dusk kayak]

ya and apparently they're fire

from what ive seen

only $25

[sacred sleet]

Imma need to check those out tho

[dusk kayak]

hahaha good looks

[sacred sleet]

Fr broke guys like me addicted to micro transactions need these low prices

[dusk kayak]

SAME lmao

[sacred sleet]

😂

Glad I’m not the only one

[dusk kayak]

my hands arent big either and i feel like this is the perfect size mouse for em

[sacred sleet]

Once I get my 2he it’s bout to go DOWN

[sacred sleet]

Good!!! I’m so scared recommending stuff cause I don’t know if it’ll go

I’d hate to make someone waste money

[dusk kayak]

im extremely happy with the purchase

ill let y'all know how it plays out

[sacred sleet]

🫡

[dusk kayak]

havent used it yet

but im hyped

[sacred sleet]

Please do! I’ve had the mouse for 2 years

It’s served me well

[dusk kayak]

i wish the wireless charging would work somehow on other mousepads cause i have an artisan mousepad and 0 chance im switching that out for a logitech one but im def missing out on the wireless charging aspect

[sacred sleet]

Back when I was a scrub who couldn’t get bronze in aim labs to a sweaty apex player with an absolute savage 1.2 k/d

That mouse is built for all types 🤣

[dusk kayak]

still 😂 😂

i didnt buy a $120 mousepad a couple months ago to buy another one and switch it out

plus i love the feel of the artisan

made extremely well

[sacred sleet]

Yeah that does kinda suck

I don’t know why it isn’t universal but I guess that’s big business for ya

[dusk kayak]

exactly

[hybrid dove]

i have a gpro superlight with superglids on a xl hein xsoft

lmfao

[grand breach]

is there any good keycaps for wooting?

[lyric frost]

https://www.angrymiao.com/glacier-keycap-set/

i'm looking to get these

saw them in randomfrankp wooting 60he review, they look amazing and see thru

[grand breach]

wow!

cool!

I make it one of the candidates!

and good keyboard case?

if you know

[wheat plume]

FUCK YEAH EU

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yn-R39-dtc0

[frozen ingot]

why wouldn't they be

[frozen ingot]

probably gonna worsen the IP rating on devices, but still enough to be splash proof

anything cherry mx compatible will including those

except very rare cases of cherry profile keycaps

[reef patrol]

I personally give a lot more of a fuck to be able to swap a battery than whether or not my phone survives being dropped into a canal 😄

[frozen ingot]

I like my phone being splash/rain proof

I don't need to swim with it though

no, its literally just keycaps

[wheat plume]

https://youtu.be/wm1p0ltWzKk

🤤 gimme that transparent purple one

[frozen ingot]

https://i.imgur.com/do1TQoM.mp4

[hoary tendon]

nah, it's like paiting a wall, still a wall

[frozen ingot]

I put some clearbois on the top row of my two HE

[hoary tendon]

rgb looks nice on those pudding keycaps

[frozen ingot]

you can find cheaper clones on aliexpress

[hoary tendon]

is this a clone?

[reef patrol]

All I can see.

[wheat plume]

:P

[frozen ingot]

its steelseries prismcaps

top row is some clear caps I got off aliexpress

[frozen ingot]

the 90s called, they want their transluscent plastic cases back

[hoary tendon]

a transluscent UwU would be nice

frfr

[frozen ingot]

I use 4 different keycap types/sets combined on my 60HE

[wheat plume]

I think I would keep the original face buttons and touchpad cover

Cause you can see the glue under the touchpads with this transparent shell

[pale sigil]

This is so ugly

It reminds me of the old console cases

Tacky

[wheat plume]

Yeah, it would be so much better with the original black buttons and triggers

and touchpads

[frozen ingot]

those buttons and d-pad do look cheap af

[wheat plume]

they really do

[pale sigil]

[wheat plume]

the whole kit is 35 euro and comes with tools (shitty tools but still)

[frozen ingot]

I got one of those clear crystal xboxes in a moval box here somewhere

[pale sigil]

I bet it's inferior material

[wheat plume]

the shell itself is pretty damn good, the buttons tho...not really

[frozen ingot]

I like clear plastic casings as such but that steam deck one doesn't look that well made

[pale sigil]

I wanna open my deck

Out of curiosity

But CBA

[wheat plume]

im too scared to even do an SSD swap

cause im nervous about damaging the battery ribbon cable

[pale sigil]

I'm kinda salty how cheap 2230s are now

[wheat plume]

huh?

[pale sigil]

I can get a 2tb for the same price I paid for a 1tb SD card

[cursive summit]

Are there more now?

[pale sigil]

Ye

[cursive summit]

Cause when Deck launched there weren't many

[wheat plume]

There is an official Steam Deck SSD from Sabrent :D Which is awesome

[pale sigil]

No?

[wheat plume]

Yes

[cursive summit]

Define official?

[pale sigil]

It just uses steam deck for them clicks

Lol

[ashen spindle]

^

[wheat plume]

XD

[cursive summit]

Is this one of those "official Steam deck" as in "Ryzen optimized" RAMs

Or "made for Ryzen systems" RAMs

[wheat plume]

Nah, its got whatever power level the one in the Deck has so it doesnt cause interference

[pale sigil]

"steam deck compatible"

[wheat plume]

cause other SSDs might cause interference

[frozen ingot]

how the heck does an ssd cause interference

[ashen spindle]

literally every 2230 you find on amazon has that in its name and they all work

[cursive summit]

That's just lana logic

[wheat plume]

idk but thats why they wrap it in foil

[cursive summit]

If it's 2230 it'll work

[cursive summit]

Aaah yes, protection from aliens

[frozen ingot]

sounds kinda stupid

[pale sigil]

Valve science

[ashen spindle]

its usuall the other way, that EMI would interfere with an ssd, they usually aren the cause of it

[wheat plume]

oh, rtight

[pale sigil]

Anyway

I'm sad

[cursive summit]

Well if you think about it all of those silicons being electricized generate radiation which runs the whole progress so wrapping it in foil means that radiation goes back into the circuitry accelerating the SSD speeds by 100%

It must be true

[pale sigil]

Didn't even use the 1tb SD card

Really

[pale sigil]

I installed games on it but never played any of them

[cursive summit]

That is a whole bunch of nothing

[ashen spindle]

"designated"

aka marketing wrote it

[cursive summit]

Advertised, is a better word

[wheat plume]

Low power and heat is a good thing for the Deck

[ashen spindle]

its the same for all ssds basically

[cursive summit]

Aren't virtually all SSDs low power?

[wheat plume]

My freaking SD Card maxes out the Deck's card slot :')

[pale sigil]

What

[ashen spindle]

also EMI is a thing do non of you remember how for the lekker wooting needed to tweak firmware to pass validation tests for that

[wheat plume]

Deck's slot can only do 100mb/s

[pale sigil]

The SD card slot is limited on the deck

I don't see your point

[wheat plume]

my SD card can do slighty more than that

[pale sigil]

Most can

[cursive summit]

ElectroMagnetic Interference?

[wheat plume]

Really?

[pale sigil]

The issue is write

With SD cards

[ashen spindle]

yes

[pale sigil]

Read stopped being slow years ago

[wheat plume]

Installing the game I just downloaded maxed out at 98mb/s write for me

[cursive summit]

Deck prolly suffers a lot from EMI with how dense it is

[pale sigil]

Except it doesn't

I have the same SD, what you're seeing is a mix of read and write

[wheat plume]

The Steam download page shows mix?

[pale sigil]

Yes

Because downloads are compressed then decompressed most of the time and it shows disk usage usually

We've talked about this before

[wheat plume]

oh

Sabrent have SD cards too... neat

[frozen ingot]

why does todd howard talk like he just huffed off a helium balloon

it throws me off every time

[wheat plume]

🤔

[cursive summit]

Cause he does, probably

Todd always in interviews comes off as shy

I mean, after all

He was in the chess club

[pale sigil]

Also sadly SD card tests are not great real world results

[wheat plume]

time to benchmark it

European iPhones if Apple complies with the EU Regulations:

• USB C
• SIM Card Tray

• Replacable battery

[ashen spindle]

wait why with sim card tray

[zenith silo]

Aren't they slowing USB-C down to lightning cable speeds though 💀

[ashen spindle]

when did eu regulate to have sim cards

[zenith silo]

When did apple get rid of them??

Tf

[pale sigil]

This generation

In America at least

[zenith silo]

Why

[pale sigil]

eSIM

[ashen spindle]

US phones only have eSIM now

[pale sigil]

Pixel did the same instead of doing dual SIM.

[ashen spindle]

because sim cards are outdated and useless

[pale sigil]

Can only do a single physical and one eSIM now.

[snow moon]

What are the downsides of eSIM

[pale sigil]

It's ass for countries who still haven't adopted them outside of contracts

[zenith silo]

I hate Apple products anyways so it's no issue for me

[wheat plume]

SD card speeds

[ashen spindle]

your carrier needs to support it

[final flame]

esim is slowly moving into more android phones lol

[pale sigil]

And most likely PAYG won't support it

[ashen spindle]

so thats why in eu its sill sim tray because carriers suck and arent up to date here

[pale sigil]

:/

[ashen spindle]

who

[pale sigil]

A lot of providers only support for contracts

[wheat plume]

YEAH AND I USE THAT

[zenith silo]

By the time I'd ever need to switch to it, there would more than be enough carriers supporting it in canada

I don't upgrade my phone unless I need to

Im also on some cheap shitty carrier that'll probably not switch for a while

[ashen spindle]

if they dont support it they will lose customers

thats why they will switch to it

thats why its good that apple is using their market force to push carriers to adopt it

[pale sigil]

I bet you don't like headphone slots too

XD

[ashen spindle]

what

literally no downside in cost, convenience or anything if esim is used

if the carriers you use support it

[zenith silo]

The headphone jack should've stayed but sim cards aren't that special I just would rather something physical I could change on the spot

[wheat plume]

if
thats the keyword here

[ashen spindle]

yes, so you think carriers will just say they dont support it and lose 50% of customers?

[wheat plume]

a lot of them dont in most countries

[ashen spindle]

and thats why apple is still having sim cards in current gen but makes it clear that goes away

[zenith silo]

Apple isn't 50% of the market share in loooots of other countries

[pale sigil]

Also pre loaded Sims are nice

[ashen spindle]

30% of all european users is still a massive amount

and androids are also doing this as others pointed out

its just taking a bit

[wheat plume]

can you preload eSIM?

[pale sigil]

No idea

But I'd imagine it's more difficult than just buying one at the counter

And using right away

[reef patrol]

I don't see why not, if you're a substantial enough seller.

[wheat plume]

yeah for sure

[ashen spindle]

we literally just had that topic yesterday, scan qr code, confirm it, done

[wheat plume]

yeah, I know...but those can be preloaded?

[zenith silo]

There are so many brands of android phones I guarantee the sim tray will stay for years if not a decade to come

[ashen spindle]

an esim is the exact same as a sim minus the physical part

[reef patrol]

We already have phones locked down to specific providers in the US. Seems pretty simple to add an eSIM to that process.

[pale sigil]

But then you're just contributing to waste aren't your

Same shit

[zenith silo]

Can I hotswap carriers if I wanted to?

[pale sigil]

Buy a piece of cardboard with a qr code

[wheat plume]

Yeah, but those that keep it will be niche chinese brands no one wants due to shitty software support and updates

[ashen spindle]

so dont buy a cardboard but a link and that gets you a random ID or anything

[zenith silo]

I'm sure there will be lots of big brands that keep it for a while

[wheat plume]

Maybe for another 2-3 years, yeah

[pale sigil]

But how can i go to said link if I have no internet

[wheat plume]

I just find it funny that the USA iPhones have a plastic brick inside them taking up the space the SIM Tray used to be :')

[zenith silo]

Lol

[frozen ingot]

bUt ThErEs No RoOm FoR a HeAdPhOnE jAcK

[zenith silo]

Can I disconnect from my network whenever I want

[ashen spindle]

does your phone not have flight mode or what

[zenith silo]

It does but that didn't answer my question?

[ashen spindle]

I dont know thats not something I'd ever even think about

[zenith silo]

Got it

[ashen spindle]

but that would be not something down to esim but down to the phone preventing it

to my knowledge esim is litterally the sam minus the physical parts, hence I fail to see the issue with it

[zenith silo]

I like analog things

Cars for example I dislike newer vehicles because everything is automated