🔌│tech

[left grail]

1200$ just to get wrecked by the russian kid who uses a broken 10$ headset that only plays mono

[karmic oar]

1800 euros in the netherlands no wonder they are good for gaming too

[frozen ingot]

I'm not spending $1200 on any headphones

[misty saffron]

why is using iems for pc not that common still

ive been doing exactly that and i'm completely fine

granted, i have full size speakers for music

[cursive summit]

IEMs are uncomfortable, sound worse than headphones

And yeah that mostly

[misty saffron]

my chair is uncomfortable, chairs suck

[cursive summit]

Get a herman miller then

[vagrant pagoda]

If your iems arent comfortable then get better tips lol

I have custom molds for mine, and I forget they are in

[cursive summit]

The whole concept of insertion is inherently uncomfortable

[vagrant pagoda]

Wut

[cursive summit]

Also IEMs just don't sound as good as headphones

You'll never match the sound range of a headphone with your tiny IEM driver

[vagrant pagoda]

Lmao not true at all

[cursive summit]

If you spend like 3x more than of a comparably sounding headphone then yeah sure, you can sound similar

But you will be paying 3x more, there's no buts or ifs about it

[vagrant pagoda]

You can push 130+ db flat with a $100 iem and an eq

[cursive summit]

They won't sound anywhere near as good technically

[vagrant pagoda]

Wut

You have no idea

[cursive summit]

I have plenty of an idea, I own good IEMs and I have tried some higher end ones

They don't scratch anywhere near what I would want from headphones

[left grail]

Same. I hate IEMs and will always prefer headphones. Not soundwise but I don't like paying 300€ just to get custom iems so they are not uncomfortable. Just to get the same audio quality as decent studio headphones for a 1/3 of its price

[vagrant pagoda]

Bias doesn't make a product better

Go look at actually response graphs for even mid level iems

[cursive summit]

Response graphs don't indicate tonality

[left grail]

[cursive summit]

I care about driver performance

How good is the sound coming out from the driver

If you have a shit driver, it won't sound as good as a proper good ass big diaphragm

[vagrant pagoda]

Also custom molds are like $150

[somber heron]

Does anyone know how the Keycaps for 60he are made?

[pale sigil]

In a factory

[left grail]

• the driver itself and you have to make new molds every 3-5 years. Quite pricey compared to regular headphones tbh. But if you prefer it, go enjoy

[reef patrol]

In what sense? We have a keycap manufacturer who makes them to our specifications like anyone else. 🙂

[somber heron]

im asking because the Spacebar on mine is crooked

[reef patrol]

Ah. No. It is not. The PCBA is screwed in more on the right side of the keyboard.

If you take the keycap off and lay it on a perfectly flat surface, it should also be flat.

[vagrant pagoda]

Not really they last longer than that. Mine are silicone and oldest is over 5 years

[somber heron]

nah kinda crooked

[reef patrol]

What keycaps are these?

ABS? PBT? BLANK? Wooting?

[somber heron]

oh shit lemme check

[reef patrol]

Hmm... so could be poor QC on BLANK's side. Reach out to us via email at [e-mail] and we'll see what we can do. 🙂

[somber heron]

Aye aye

[sharp badger]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OeYnbhPzHig Could also do this

[somber heron]

Ye i dont want a new one, i jsut wanted to let production know so they can check on their supplier

ty tho man

[reef patrol]

Well that's easy. We're no longer getting stock from them. Ever.

We're making our own keycaps now. Blank was originally a way to get PBT keycaps for our products as an option, before we had the money to invest in our own molds (PBT molds are very pricy to set up)

But customers should obviously have what they pay for - If a keycap is bad, we replace it. 🙂

[somber heron]

oh lul already sent email

[somber heron]

Just bring out a 100% version and send me proper keycaps when i buy it xdddd

[reef patrol]

A 100% version? You mean the 2HE?

[somber heron]

uhhh
60he with ARM Processor but 100%

[reef patrol]

Yes... the 2HE. 😄

Same tech, more switches.

[somber heron]

You can now get it with ARM?

[reef patrol]

Both the 60HE and 2HE use the exact same ARM MCU.

Been able to since... fall? Thereabouts.

Of course with the restock delays on top.

[somber heron]

Ah

i ordered my 60HE last year july

[sharp badger]

Should be ARM then can check it in software too

[reef patrol]

It'll say on the sticker below the keyboard and in Wootility, yeah 🙂

[somber heron]

Well
Here i go spending money again fugggg

What was the other one thats not ARM again?

[reef patrol]

2HE and 60He used to both be AVR based.

But we changed that back Spring/Summer last year for all future productions.

[somber heron]

ah nice

[reef patrol]

The 60He shouldn't be difficult to resell if you want a 2HE and don't want a 2nd keyboard though 😄

[charred stone]

Does anybody know if/when we will be getting this capability?

[somber heron]

Im currently using my old Logitech G510s for the 18x3 Macro keys/Numpad and my 60he for gaming

[somber heron]

Might just use it at work lmao

[reef patrol]

I think this is a memory limitation. So probably never, in favour of more demanded stuff like in-memory macros and other things? 🙂

[charred stone]

I'd love to be able to recolor all of my keys that are used when holding the "Fn" key down. I've seen it on Steelseries boards before.

[reef patrol]

You can do that though. Just not use the animations.

[charred stone]

Are the macros that we can set up not stored on the "PCB"?

[charred stone]

Oh!! Really??

[reef patrol]

Everything is stored onboard. That's why we don't have macros in Wootility.
However #💻│wootomation is a macro app that lets you do that. Needs to be running at all times though to intercept and do macros.

Base layer

While holding FN

[molten wraith]

is the macros a memory limitation

[charred stone]

Ahhh...my apologies for making you explain this to me.

I've seen the wootomation thing, which sounded to be open source and available for every keyboard. I assumed that was the macro functionality as I have barely played around with mine since I received it yesterday. I immediately threw it into a Klippe T case and tape modded this beautiful expletive.

I also added colors to the Fn Layer manually. SWEET!!!!

[molten wraith]

it would be quirky if you could just add a layer for every .mm the keypress goes down and it does an action lol

[gusty kiln]

https://youtu.be/c64yGHLO-TU

[cursive summit]

Damn, reposting began already #💬│general message

[plush gazelle]

Any plans of having a Wooting keyboard with some kind of force-feedback on the swtiches?

I love the Hall effect sensors but I also like clicky feeling

[cursive summit]

Doesn't work with hall effect

Tactile would kinda ruin the hall effect mechanic

Like, maybe Wooting could look into some kind of adjustable rumbles where you can set your own tactile "rumble" feedback

But it'd be really really expensive I imagine, not worth it

[plush gazelle]

I also think it would be expensive, but I disagree that it would not work with hall effect sensors

just not the classic way

[astral haven]

well this isnt true, you could make a mechanical force feedback but it would ruin the smoothness

[cursive summit]

I think someone more versed would explain

[plush gazelle]

more like the way apple does the "virtual click" on their touchpad

[cursive summit]

I think @old marlin has a lot of experience with keyboards, and could explain better

[astral haven]

that would not work as it uses magnets

[cursive summit]

I asked this question before, and I was told "fuck off", or no

[plush gazelle]

as someone who doesn't like "smooth" linear switches that is an acceptable tradeoff to me 😄

[astral haven]

you enjoy stock browns?

[old marlin]

you would have to have a haptic feedback device on every slider/keycaps

[astral haven]

^ which isnt impossible but it also couldnt be the same force feedback used on anything besides the ps5 controller

[plush gazelle]

brown or blue low-profile low-travel switches were my favourite before i got a wooting

[old marlin]

a tactile version in general would be possible ig, only way to have it "easily" adjstable is with clickleafs though

then you could "just" open every switch to swap the leaf for a different fixed tactile point

[astral haven]

id be super down for a click leaf wooting

[old marlin]

that is if they can get a material to make leafs out of that don't interact with the magnet

[astral haven]

^ is the problem

[old marlin]

I mean gateron is one of the few companies that has clickleafs to begin with

[plush gazelle]

it's probably more difficul since it also uses magnets, just like the sensor. But again i think it's not impossible it's just expensive keeping those two mechanisms separate

[old marlin]

the magnets are not the problem

[astral haven]

unfortunately physics disagrees

[old marlin]

but like

imagine you sit in a car

and somebody kicks against the tire

you will barely feel it

and then somebody kicks against the suspended part

aka somewhere on the cabin

and you will feel it to a much higher degree

since it was not connected via a flexible joint

like a spring

[plush gazelle]

I don't think so. just physically put the feedback part away from the sensing part. phyics agrees 😛 make the keystem larger

[old marlin]

?

the sensing is not even the problem

like just assuming you are able to filter it out 100%

you just won't notice a haptic feedback motor that is not on the stem or keycap

like even if you had super stiff 200g springs

it would be too dampened

[astral haven]

actually heres a crazy idea
make every key a linear actuator

[plush gazelle]

couldn't you have a permanent magnet in the keystem?

[old marlin]

you do already

[plush gazelle]

I meant for force feedback to emulate a tactile point

[old marlin]

so you want it to have a coil that essentially is able to increase drag on the stem?

I mean

[astral haven]

yup

[old marlin]

are you ready to pay like 3 times for your keyboard?

[plush gazelle]

yes

[old marlin]

great

now find another like 500 people that are

[astral haven]

as long as i can adjust between 65 and 200 grams

[old marlin]

and then ask gateron VERY nicely

[old marlin]

oh

won't happen

[astral haven]

500 is probably not a challenge
but gateron wont get out of bed for 500

mabe 50k?

[old marlin]

you would at best be able to increase force on a few keys

since the powerdraw would be too high to makeit super powerful force feedback

[plush gazelle]

so I guess the answer is "no"

[plush gazelle]

because this

[old marlin]

at least for now

[old marlin]

you could "easily" adjust for the curve

since you know how much power you are putting inside the system

should be easy to adjust for

it's just ridiculously complicated

implementation and controlling of it

not to mention manufacturing

[astral haven]

well so my idea is more to use linear actuators like they have on camera lenses that are running a pid system on each individual key
then you monitor the pids to notice how much force the person is putting on the key
and you could adjust the pids to adjust the force as well

[old marlin]

[astral haven]

but those actuators cost 10s of dollars each lmao

[old marlin]

not aware of any active maglev switch btw

[astral haven]

i mean if they can make passive ones then active ones would also exist

[old marlin]

passive ones are SOOOOO much easier

[plush gazelle]

1500 USD keyboard. maybe a few would buy it. but yeah not everyone is as crazy as me

[old marlin]

so much so that we have 2 DIY designs

[astral haven]

1500 is too much tbh

[old marlin]

yea now add mentioned PID for each

and the compute power for it

[astral haven]

i mean you only need 1 large fpga, on the order of $200 or a few smaller ones

[old marlin]

would also be a hotplate

[plush gazelle]

PID is an algorithm, right? not every key needs its own MCU

[astral haven]

you need to monitor constantly however

[old marlin]

https://hackaday.com/2021/08/02/mag-lev-switches-are-the-future-of-clacking/
https://hackaday.com/2022/02/08/3d-printed-maglev-switches-are-so-hot-right-now/

the riskable ones are especially interesting imo

top ones that is

entirely fdm 3d printed

https://www.youtube.com/@riskable/videos

[astral haven]

i mean any magnet mounted near a pcb can be replaced by a pcb coil

[old marlin]

you want the coil to be around the stem

to make the magnetic field smaller

otherwise it is just a hotplate

[astral haven]

so cut a hole in the pcb 🤷

[old marlin]

no like

you would have to make the stem stupid long if that is the solution

[astral haven]

ok next idea
do whatever they do for stabilizing camera sensors in phones
then rotate all of them to push upwards and replace the camera sensor with the bottom of the stem

actually

periscope cameras

they already are basically what we need here

replace all the lens elements with plastic and a spring and bobs your uncle

the system would only cost somewhere in the $10k range

ooh and it would be ez pz to put a screen under each key lmao

[astral haven]

https://www.carscoops.com/2023/04/byds-seagull-starts-at-just-11300-and-has-sodium-ion-battery/

190 miles of ev range for 11k

[digital haven]

Buy Benz

[ashen spindle]

is that CATLs new battery or does BYD make their own?

[astral haven]

byd makes their own

[digital haven]

When is that car showing up with the battery you replace like,,,, whenever it dies? I cant remember any details about it

[astral haven]

its already out in the eu

and useless in the us because you need such an insanely larger amount of infrastructure

NIO

[cursive summit]

https://wccftech.com/amd-ryzen-threadripper-pro-7900wx-workstation-7900x-hedt-cpus-leaked/

[astral haven]

yea
but the 59##x hedt parts were also leaked and nothing exists

[ashen spindle]

this leak is not credible its just wcctrash picking up anything on the street and running with it

[digital haven]

Interesting! I dont much like it tbh, considering the whole process of making EV batteries and such but oh well I guess !

[astral haven]

what?

biggest advantage is you only need to buy a car with a tiny little battery

[digital haven]

On consumer end, yes its good

Lithium takes a bit to mine and such

[astral haven]

which is why this is interesting

im confused, how does invidious work?

yes but how does it work on the back end?

afaik mpv and vlc use the youtube api tho

and the instances I can see look nothing like real youtube

[wheat plume]

Wait....

Using mpv to steam from yt Music will stop working???

[astral haven]

what?
who said anything related to that?

[astral haven]

they arent competing with youtube tho
the part that youtube cares about is the recommendations

if you make a browser extension that intercepts any time you click on a youtube link and sends it to mpv, youtube wouldnt be happy, but you are sitll on youtubes webpage if you want reccs

the difference is that invidious or whatever is distributing software that is mass scraping youtube

vanced got hit because they were distributing the actual app that belonged to youtube

revanced is now doing nothing that breaks tos

[gusty kiln]

My B-die arrived

Hopefully stable on my cpu/mobo

jesus has the spirit bomb

[fair gull]

it somehow looks like a forza car

[gusty kiln]

ram booted without issue

and at xmp

[livid rock]

and razer has just coppied wooting and failed by a little bit

they tried to coppied the rapid trigger and some of features

idk but optimium vid explains breifly what they did

[fair gull]

its opto

not magneto

[astral haven]

same as wooting 1

dont think it uses a prism?
i think its just the further down, the more light passes through a hole?

[fair gull]

it partially interrupts the beam with the plastic on the right. its basicaly like a triangle

the deeper you press the more it interupts

[astral haven]

the switch was previously digital

we dont know how it does the analog because its a new version presumeably

before it was a super boring optical switch, now its a less boring optical switch

[fair gull]

i literally explained it

its the same princupal of less or more light like the w1 and w2

[livid rock]

think every is missing vial info here

[daring tree]

so what are your thoughts on what razer did

[livid rock]

wooting > every single keyboard company in the world and theres no poito get a new keyboard unless theres a new product thats better from wooting

[fair gull]

we love that the tech spreads but they could have at least copied it better

like limit the sensitivity to what it actually is

[daring tree]

I thought you guys would be a bit upset tbh

[livid rock]

its causes better prouducts at the end of the day

[fair gull]

we want to push the industry

[old marlin]

The light gate is essentially a slope

So it blocks only some amount of light until it is at the end of the detectable travel

Well gl

They are a bitch to tear down

It being harder to show btw

The flaretech ones are easy to explain in a 2D format

[fair gull]

https://youtu.be/QiFg9wGQXwA

shows and explains them

idk if thats the one in the v2 but those were analog capable

[frozen ingot]

they'd probably price it around the apex pro lineup

[old marlin]

corsair had several for that pricepoint, no?

ah

only 280

300€

[fair gull]

yes

at least thats how i understood everything ive found about it including prior understanding of opto electric switches

[digital haven]

I haven’t read into it yet, am at work. Mercedes is working on having us repair the EV batteries, instead of replacing the entire thing. Which I do enjoy

[astral haven]

different designs need different thigns

the nioh would still need the cell repair, except the customer can drive off in 2 minutes while you toil for hours fixing the pack

[fair gull]

thats why its limited start and end

also why we had to limit it on flaretech

same for why the lift of only reacts after roughly .3mm rapid trigger on .1

it just cant detect such small changes usually

[marsh glade]

The only difference is that we transparently provide that information instead of bullshitting and hoping that people don't notice

For the flaretech boards that is, the hall effect boards do 0.1 no problem 😛

[gusty kiln]

this doesn't seem right

couldn't use aida64 for mem latency

[astral haven]

look for the ladder

[gusty kiln]

37 ns at 128 MB

[astral haven]

you have ryzen of some kind?

which one?

[gusty kiln]

5800X3D, does the test not go into memory?

[astral haven]

basically it doesnt

lol

[gusty kiln]

damn

[astral haven]

download intel mlc

the results arent comparable to intel results but should allow you to compare xmp on vs off

[gusty kiln]

this is the chip and cheese test

I'm assuming it goes by kilobytes

[astral haven]

looks like it

[gusty kiln]

dunno if that is acceptable for 3200cl14

[astral haven]

i dont really know how chipsncheese latency compares to aida or mlc

[ashen spindle]

https://chipsandcheese.com/memory-latency-data/ references are here

but thats more for cpu not for ram testing

[astral haven]

intel mlc is gud

[snow moon]

wait they're fixing RGB?

Bruh I just bought my RGB

[jagged stone]

how can i add a digital key to the keyboard? like a letter for example.

[astral haven]

under remap in wootility, drag the letter you want onto the key?

[jagged stone]

yes but can i add a letter then drag it to the key i want?\

[astral haven]

what letter would you add lol

[jagged stone]

i cant find my one arabic letter xD

[astral haven]

no dice
you may have to make a macro

[jagged stone]

whats a macro

[astral haven]

https://next.wooting.io/wootomation

[jagged stone]

ah i see, thanks 🙂

[astral haven]

you may be able to create it using dks and an alt code?

ah nope, dks can only do 4
you would have to hold alt, then hit dks for the symbol

ime?

[jagged stone]

i think the video is my answer

[gusty kiln]

no bsod playing diablo, seems pretty stable so far

allocated up to 20GB at one point

[astral haven]

thats an api

[jagged stone]

ذ here's the l ittle guy ive been looking for

[astral haven]

pro tip windows key + period = a panel to type whatever you want

[pale sigil]

Cooling down my dog

[fair gull]

all images except the cockpit view look like forza images and i think i figured out why... the cockpit image has details games dont have like lint on the seat and it super crisp like only real life can be

i think the outside images all being blurry to begin with and then some having different focal planes makes it look like straight out of a game

[cursive summit]

Win11 build 21380 got leaked (downloadable here https://drive.google.com/file/d/1eZZOM3ll5otjRWVqtQV0PvLxeWN2Jujr/view)

• Internet Explorer in this build is still alive.
• There are some tiny differences on system taskbar icons(such as Search, Start menu)
• The task view in this build is like Win10+Win11
• Dark mode has outlines
• Unlike current Win11, TPM and Secure boot and etc requirements are not needed

I guess why this is somewhat important, is this might be the earliest available Win11 version so far?

2021 March build, public release was October

Found a wiki entry of it, a rather unique build https://betawiki.net/wiki/Windows_11_build_21380

[marsh glade]

I don't even upgrade Windows versions for several months after it's been publicly released as stable... I'm sure as hell not going to install some "leaked" dev build with untold numbers of zero days

[cursive summit]

Ok boom.. nah, just Ok

Good for Windows loremasters and those who want to build custom builds and things

[old marlin]

ngl

most interesting build for most "custom os enthusiasts" will be 23h2

since it will have good high refresh rate usb device support

[pale sigil]

Did the ultimate test for my pixel 7a

Today

Battery ain't cutting it

[reef patrol]

https://videocardz.com/newz/amd-ryzen-5-5600x3d-6-core-cpu-with-3d-v-cache-is-reportedly-coming

[wheat plume]

Is fossil a good smartwatch brand?

[cursive summit]

Seems extinct

So wouldn't call em good

What do you want from a smartwatch

Functionality? Samsung, Apple

Reliability? Something like a Garmin then

Hell I'd say Garmin in general is prolly the nicest choice, isn't a shitty manufacturer, proven quality

[ashen spindle]

Is there a better way than changing the interface metric to have windows prioritize one ethernet connection over the other as muhc as possible?

Basically have the second one only be used if the first one doesnt work?

[viscid river]

Hello, I have a question can i put the wooting 60he into 65% case ?

[thick elk]

It's called the 60he not the 65he for a reason

[ashen spindle]

if the case is just larger that will work, will just be empty on a side then I guess lol

[thick elk]

I don't know if the mounting points on 65% cases are different though

[viscid river]

Okay ty

[empty wren]

Definitely one of the better ones

[astral haven]

what makes them good?

their wearos stuff has particularly awful battery life, and their non wearos stuff doesnt seem to even be smart, just a fitness tracker

[fair gull]

its a design brand... the internals are all of the shelve chinese stuff usually

while they work they are as the name design brand suggests focused on design

if you want a smartwatch get a samsung or apple one

[wheat plume]

Samsung no
Cause you need a Samsung phone to get all the features
Apple no
Cause you need an Apple phone to get all the features

[frozen ingot]

corpobro dystopia intensifies

either be a total simp for our brand or suffer being left out of features

[empty wren]

In fairness to all old snapdragon based watches

The chip was terrible and outdated

As far the actual outside of the watch goes pretty sure they have a look for everyone

[barren thunder]

Where can I get this design:

Sorry, couldn't resist 😄

[empty wren]

Do not forget the part where you are ai

iStock photos logos😏

I remember once I removed watermarks

It was a pain

Yeah if you wear short sleeves

How about flip flop outlines?

Ah

[ashen spindle]

great I think my internet issues are from the router overheating, but I can't open it up because its the isps shit station zzzzz now on monday a tehnician has to come out just to likely swap the box and nothing else lmao

[empty wren]

Your router got a 4090?

[ashen spindle]

I could get my own box but I only use the basic one out of spite because its free and I dont want to pay for what I think should be included in the contract

[empty wren]

Interesting

[ashen spindle]

its the basic ass oem version they rebrand for every company and works fine but has nothing special

[empty wren]

That actually looks sleek

[ashen spindle]

it looks like somebody has no brain because you cant rmeove the metal part so its impossible to put it into any place where you want to mount it to the wall or sideways

instead of a fucking normal box it had to be some angled rectangle you cant properly store

[empty wren]

They could at least put mount holes on it on two sides

[ashen spindle]

oh there are two on the other side

but still not able to put it straight onto the wall because of the metal rod

[empty wren]

Well that is just sad

[ashen spindle]

well at least I can tell the technician what is likely the issue and can also ask him when the fuck they finally get above gigabit internet laid out here

thats the other sides

it does its job its just cheapo OEM rebrands that is also used for US ISPs apparently

[empty wren]

Are those warranty stickers not illegal in the EU?

Fair enough

[ashen spindle]

two holes above for mounting

[empty wren]

Oof those would need spacers

[ashen spindle]

the black hangers are someones custom solution here

yeah

also the first 6-12 months depending on product are technically not covered by warranty but by guarantee in the EU

so yeah the stickers are meaningless

you can basically do anything reasonable in that time and they need to proof your actions would cause the issue

[empty wren]

Yeah that can be quite tricky

Unfortunate that there is not a screw hole on that box as well, I saw the same double holes on payment terminals and people knock those down so often

[ashen spindle]

its just not simple to open and a hassle so might as well just force them to deal with it

[empty wren]

Yeah

Also Locke

I guess it makes sense it overheating and all

I see no ventilation holes

[crimson wigeon]

Yeah time to drill some

[ashen spindle]

top and bottom

[empty wren]

Ah alright then

[crimson wigeon]

And then slap a fan or two on it

[ashen spindle]

it shouldnt need much I just notice its getting a lot warmer in an area where I assume the chip is and when I unplug it and let it cool down it works fine for a while

[empty wren]

Might be time to liquid cool the router😏

[ashen spindle]

and I dont have any heatsink or anything I could put on the plastic to help that issue

[empty wren]

Yeah plastic is a great insulator

[ashen spindle]

well some small fins on top would probably help since it should just be a few watts

even through plastic

[empty wren]

Anybody here using a curved monitor and is it any good?

Yeah but oled is a $1000 and 1440p

Right

[ashen spindle]

curved is a need if you go larger than 16:9

[empty wren]

To be able to see more of the screen then

I see

[ashen spindle]

fair, but for gaming I would argue it still needs a curve, productivity depending on what

[empty wren]

But a curved 24" is stupid then right?

[empty wren]

Interesting

[ashen spindle]

I dont see any benefit to it

[empty wren]

Alright

I see

[final flame]

Intel made cool packaging for once and now it's gone

damn

[empty wren]

Unfortunate

It is also funny the box says special edition

[zenith silo]

Curved has shitty panels iirc

I think the only good curved ones are OLED

[zenith silo]

Pretty sure most of not all non OLED curved monitors use va panels

[final flame]

no? There's plenty of ips ones iirc

[cursive summit]

https://www.tomshardware.com/news/gddr6-vram-prices-plummet

Nvidia: best I can do is 6

[thick elk]

The problem for NVIDIA this generation is that they don't want workstation / pro users to buy cheap cards.
For certain workloads such as computer vision the most important part is the amount of vram.
They don't mind it if those users buy 4090's but they don't want them to buy $400 16gb vram cards.

While cuda is not as required now as it was in the past, it still menas amd / intel don't have to factor this in.

Of course, this is all NVIDIA being greedy, but it is their road to profit maximization.

[fair gull]

ya but they basically burn their company down with the clowneray

and im almost usre the workstation and pro users would buy the highest end 40 series cards or quadro anyway purely because of the compute advantage

unless they stopped making quadro cards now

[thick elk]

While that is an option, noone wants to spend more than they have to, if their workload works on a $400 card they will buy one.

I know my brother's place of work mostly bought 3090's for their amount of vram, quadro's with that amount were a lot more expensive

[ashen spindle]

Then they should just do what they did for mining, lower cuda performance in gaming cards via driver. Since a business won’t use driver hacks really

Don’t like the idea much but better than putting less ram on it so in some years it’s just not running your games anymore

[fair gull]

ya idk this whole they dont want workstation/pros to buy low end cards sounds like a BS thing

we almost exclusively sold quadro cards never even recommending the 3090 or so series cards

the simple fact was that the quadro drivers dont have any gaming BS in them and will most likely be way more stable over a long time

not to mention 4 display ports which all our customers appreciated

[ashen spindle]

Nah there are a lot of cases of using the 3090 and such but I don’t think they would use the lower tier card even with more ram

As they still need some performance and bandwidth

[thick elk]

I am unsure exactly but it's a commonly sited thing,
I know in the case of my brother they really did not benefit from more compute than a 3060 would have offered

[wheat plume]

https://youtu.be/bIPl71ZeOYk

WINE but for Mac but made by Apple

and DX11 and DX12 only

[reef patrol]

Well not quite.

It's a preview. They fully expect game devs to do it themselves in practice. Something about the licensing.

[ashen spindle]

yeah its not quite clear though and people arent sure if it will be fine to ship with the layer or not after all

[reef patrol]

I like that they're finally taking gaming more serious, and that there's some horsepower to get some games playable.

I still don't like their SOC approach and the pricing. Gaming is still 100% an afterthought on your 2000$ "video editing creative platform"

[ashen spindle]

Oh yeah for sure

If not for vision I dont think they even would've worked on this translation layer

[ashen spindle]

https://videocardz.com/newz/nvidia-geforce-rtx-2080-ti-gets-a-44gb-memory-mod lel

[cursive summit]

I wonder how difficult it would be to customize an OS to accept it

[severe phoenix]

https://drop.com/buy/angry-miao-hatsu-wireless-ergonomic-split-ergo-keyboard?utm_placement=7&referer=3GR9VC&mode=guest_open&utm_campaign=Automated Daily Promotional 2023-06-11&utm_source=SparkPost&utm_medium=email&utm_term=Daily Promotional&utm_content=1686462624232.870963472995759182204696

Fair price

[old marlin]

I mean I can see why it would be expensive

but that is ridiculous

typical AM pricing

[fair gull]

lemme guess brazilians

doesnt even work in games lol

[severe phoenix]

Might as well have glued it together then

[frozen ingot]

$1600

these custom kb snobs have lost their fucking minds

[fossil orchid]

sadly a lot of the more niche things like the manuform are pretty expensive but 1600 is madness

[fair gull]

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/culturehustle/abode-a-suite-of-world-class-design-and-photography-tools

oh boi

steward semple at it again

[reef patrol]

[old marlin]

the "custom kb snobs" don't like AM tho

[frozen ingot]

that just sounds like hipster contrarianism

[crisp granite]

Yeah I’d pay 500 for that, which is about fair market rate

The rest is just Angry Miao bullshit pricing

Oh it isn’t at all

I just want a keyboard that my family won’t “borrow”

[frozen ingot]

or "yeah, we can totally sell this for $1600"

[crisp granite]

tbh selling for 1600 is absurd unless they’re milling the case out of steel blocks

[crisp granite]

But at that point, that’s just being too much

What the duck

That is a horrible looking board

Alice is a…meh form factor

[old marlin]

no AM boards just honestly are not that good

and stupid overpriced

it's like the total opposite of what (western) keyboard enthusiasts want

after all the covid hypebeasts left the hobby again

I mean it is angled so you can't look at it like a normal board

but yea, was like 880€ here, I would have paid like 600 max

sucks especially since you are forced to buy it with switches and caps you probably don't want

eh

ideally you don't wanna touch the desk with your wrist while typing anyways

so it doesn't really matter that much

[old marlin]

putting pressure on your wrists while moving your fingers a lot is a good way to get carpal tunnel

I also type on korean boards

at like 9 or 11 degree angle

no problem for me

good typing posture makes it easy

well

just not for you

why complain about it then

I mean you complained about basically all mechanical keyboards in their entirety with "it's so tall"

ig cherry ULP passes

idk it is tall

but it is tented

so doesn't really compare

don't think so lol

idk still a stupid board

that you only buy for looks

dunno where that is measured

makes it decently tall

but not omega stupid tall

[wheat plume]

did they make the status bar at the top thiccer?

This is MacOS Sonoma beta

[crisp granite]

This is the way

[crisp granite]

Doesn’t look like it

Also thanks for reminding me to get the beta installed on my Mac

[wheat plume]

wait...
Safari can only get updated when the OS itself gets an update?????

[crisp granite]

Safari is an app, it can get updates whenever

[wheat plume]

ok, good

[reef patrol]

This is something Windows does too you know?

[crisp granite]

Feature updates tend to coincide with OS updates

[reef patrol]

Edge and such updates via Windows Update.

[crisp granite]

Shockingly enough

[wheat plume]

Surely not the Chromium Edge, right?

[reef patrol]

[wheat plume]

wat?

have you ever used Linux?

[crisp granite]

Linux is just shit

[wheat plume]

They mostly always come with Firefox

[crisp granite]

What can I say?

[wheat plume]

The only exception are some that use Chromium by default, or Vivalid in FerenOS

[crisp granite]

Also some of Safari’s new features are absolutely insane

[wheat plume]

Gnome desktop comes with Epiphany browser :P

[crisp granite]

Also, Locke

The new apple porting kit is

…really something

[wheat plume]

Pretty much every distro comes with Firefox
Except ones that use Chromium or Vivaldi or DeepinOS, who make their own browser

[crisp granite]

Tried cyberpunk, something proven to work

[wheat plume]

Use DeepinOS then :P they have their own inhouse browser

[crisp granite]

And it works really well

[crisp granite]

“Use x distro”

Why not just use MacOS

Likewise

My windows machine will just be for gaming tbh

tbh, apple’s costs for Mac storage upgrades

Prevent me from ever considering Mac for anything other than a game or two on the go

[reef patrol]

[old gulch]

Should telemetry be a concern? Is the data sent really anonymous/when does anonymity not compensate

Throw out your suspicions but is it worth transitioning to a Linux distro for the sake of being able to opt out for telemetry?

[ashen spindle]

if you then also dont use any google site like youtube, no facebook site, discord probably not a good idea as well and at least all behind a VPN

and then the VPN data is tied to your uniqueue case and you stick out even more so pick your poison

[old gulch]

How “defensive” is the duckduckgo browser

[ashen spindle]

its better, but it's also just bing and I cant use bing because the results are just shit

[thick elk]

Memory / vram usage is actually more complicated than it seems and there are multiple correct answers

[empty wren]

Sub optimal

Uh no idea

Could be dirt

I did pull up the cooler after I put thermal paste to see if it spread the paste thoroughly

Anyways this is what 4 months old

Any recommendations for thermal paste pattern the x seemed to have sucked or maybe I did it wrong

Alright

Time to remove the latch on motherboard then

😏

Some people said lower temperature

But I am already doing what mid end 60C at most

Now that would be nice

Because so far this may be my old i7 4700

That was sitting on 3.6

Fair to Intel, I do wanna do maybe direct die in the near future

And that could be cnc machined

Ah yes tinkering is always fun

Plus the contact frame looks more nice than some bits of aluminium and a latch

What the heck the motherboard CPU holder has the screws barely tensioned

So much better looking

[empty wren]

Buttered toast wins

By like 0.3C

[ashen spindle]

Ok so just put a bigger pea drop and it’s the same

[digital haven]

I just put a bunch of dots all over it

Biggest dot in the middle

[ashen spindle]

GN had already tested that it basically doesn’t matter as long as you have enough so it can spread out

Assuming it’s not some weird curved ihs that doesn’t evenly spread it

[empty wren]

So long as it does not overheat not a big deal is what you are saying

Now that sounds interesting

[ashen spindle]

No im saying out enough on it and it makes actually no difference how you do it

[digital haven]

.3 C doesnt change anything

[empty wren]

Alright

[digital haven]

Just put the whole tube-

[ashen spindle]

I mean. If it’s not conductive it will make a mess but work lol

[empty wren]

Tube is bigger than cpu

[empty wren]

Alright alright

[final flame]

just put the rest on the pins

[empty wren]

Hah nice try

[final flame]

[empty wren]

Probably will do nothing

[final flame]

That one gamers nexus clip

[empty wren]

But a nightmare to clean it out of a lga socket

[final flame]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EUWVVTY63hc

Personally I do the 5 dot method, Gets me the most consistent spread

[empty wren]

No buttered toast

[empty wren]

Alright I will try that

[digital haven]

I did that one n have below 70C maxed out pretty much

[pale sigil]

I tried my best to hide cables 😦

Also for some stupid fucking reason

It reset my RGB profile

Aka everything turned off

I wish I had a low profile ram rn

Wait I think I can

@ashen spindle do you think I can get away with using cha fan for my CPU fans

[empty wren]

-10c improvement

[pale sigil]

This nice considering fans are on silent and my room is 33c

[empty wren]

few degrees above yours and room temp is supposed to be like 25c

[pale sigil]

What's cooler

[empty wren]

thermalright axp-90 x47

[crisp granite]

👌

case?

[empty wren]

loque ghost s1😏

[empty wren]

i mean i could undo the bracket thing again later

alright

[old gulch]

is your PC case the Lian Li O11 air mini, by chance?

[old marlin]

Loooks like corsair?

[final flame]

yea from what I can tell it's one of the corsair airflow cases

[reef patrol]

The PCI brackets definitely scream Corsair.

[late spruce]

Pretty sure its a 4000d airflow White

[wheat plume]

I think my mouse has finally started to double click sometimes
;-;

[hasty elm]

BRUH where my dongle at doh

[wheat plume]

huh?

[halcyon moss]

i still need to replace my steel series sensei raw :/

[old marlin]

your room is 33C

[halcyon moss]

that is indeed quite insane

i went to the office today, because it was 25C at home

[marsh glade]

It is currently 30 degrees in my apartment, and the hotest part of the day is still six hours from now

Thankfully I have AC blowing directly on myself and my cat

[halcyon moss]

WHen its that hot inside... i'll have a park office day

[reef patrol]

Is she swaying in the basket from the breeze?

[marsh glade]

No the basket is (almost) in the sunlight now, so she's avoiding it haha

[reef patrol]

😁

[marsh glade]

The cold air from the AC blows over my desk so she's chillin on her pillow next to it

[reef patrol]

[pale sigil]

Nope

I'm not a basic bitch

[pale sigil]

UK houses are built to keep heat in but it's been 30c or more all day

[severe comet]

Kat

[severe comet]

I live in the attic

but i managed to get a ac from some guy for a few bucks and that is what is keeping me alive right now

[pale sigil]

AC is borderline impossible to run

In the UK rn

With electric costs

[reef patrol]

Beats dying.

[pale sigil]

Man

Ngl after typing that

You might be right lok

When using the AC in our car it's heaven

[proven scroll]

and it randomly decides to storm for 10 minutes then be sunny again

[halcyon moss]

solar panels + ac

[stoic thorn]

nearly all aus homes have ac

[ashen spindle]

I have that combo, now be so kind and come over to install the panels on the roof please? they sit around in the yard for lnearly 6 months now xD

[stoic thorn]

depends on age i suppose

[reef patrol]

Reddit is breaking on me 😄

Can't load posts.

[cursive summit]

Same here currently

API must be down

I wonder what happened

https://www.redditstatus.com/

Ehh, seems fine?

[pale sigil]

Reddit is fucked

Indeed

Also

Was 8 hours ago

@cursive summit

[cursive summit]

Yes it updated after I checked

Having issues

[pale sigil]

Wonder why

[cursive summit]

Prolly trying to do something about countless subs closing down

[pale sigil]

Maybe

The Reddit dark tracker is down too since the API is fucked

[cursive summit]

I did see a post that said they'll just ban current mods, reinstate the sub and just add random new mods

[pale sigil]

But I thought they'd cache at least

[pale sigil]

No way

[cursive summit]

You think they won't do it to upkeep order?

[marsh glade]

https://tenor.com/view/power-lord-of-the-rings-lotr-gif-9197188

[wheat plume]

Reddit are limiting the use of third party clients on phones

So all the mods and shit that use third party apps that have better mod tools are protesting by shutting down their subreddits

Reddit eventually want only the official client to be used

Despite it being garbage with very useless moderation tools

[frozen ingot]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NfiIXooD77s

corpobro clown world

[empty wren]

watchdogs is real

[gusty kiln]

https://www.techpowerup.com/309960/samsung-launches-the-usd-2-200-odyssey-oled-g9-with-dqhd-resolution

wonder how much cheaper the G93C will be without all that smart tv feature

competing with the MSI one

[ancient egret]

real quick

[pale sigil]

Love to see it

[gusty kiln]

wonder what is the number if you remove bots

[astral haven]

the problem is literally all of them have pledged to come back online even if no changes are made...

[halcyon moss]

Notjustbikes isn't 😦

[astral haven]

fine
figuratively all of them lol

servers and hosting?

[gusty kiln]

ads on thier 1st party app/website

oh yeah they started hosting videos

[astral haven]

i mean they also host a website

[gusty kiln]

those weird reddit live

but yeah, they have never been profitable

[astral haven]

the website itself still drives a massive amount of data
and they cant just keep siphoning money forever

even ignoring video

[gusty kiln]

social media alone is never profitable, that's why facebook/meta branched out a lot

and twitter is an even bigger dumpster fire atm

[astral haven]

afaik youtube turns a profit (somehow)

[gusty kiln]

they have at least 90 million youtube premium subscribers

(aka one of them is me)

[astral haven]

https://www.tensorflow.org/datasets/catalog/reddit

[solemn wave]

no way in hell does it cost them anywhere near 24c per 1k requests

[astral haven]

reddit is about 12gb of data lol

[gusty kiln]

kek

[astral haven]

nah but if you want software margins...

[solemn wave]

nah i'd bet it's somewhere around the order of 10c per million

[astral haven]

probably costs them a cent per user per day
they want to make at least $1 per user per day

before they can make major changes, they first need to make sure 100% of their users see their ads

then they can introduce a subscription

[crimson wigeon]

reddit gold is already a thing

[astral haven]

oh well there you go

[gusty kiln]

but is there a subscription to remove ads on the android app?

[crimson wigeon]

I'd hope gold does that

[gusty kiln]

also the app ui sucks

[astral haven]

gold says it removes all ads?

[crimson wigeon]

But also who uses the official app lul

Oh wait, most people... 😦

[astral haven]

about half of the app users according to rossman

[crimson wigeon]

Oh wait they clal it premium now? Huh

[gusty kiln]

if they make the offical app ui better, I wouldn't mind spending the $30/year

[crimson wigeon]

Or maybe just make it so those who pay for that don't incur API costs

[gusty kiln]

oh wait it's 50/year now

[astral haven]

also the consumers lost on netflix

big w for netflix

[gusty kiln]

what happened?

I've never used netflix

[astral haven]

there were 10-20 new subscriptions for every cancellation post the password sharing crackdown

[gusty kiln]

kek

costco is doing something similar

the person on the costco card must be present at checkout or even at the entrance

no more piggybacking off of someone's card

[frozen ingot]

lets see how long it lasts

when the subscribers realize 95% of netflix content is garbage

[astral haven]

🤷 these were people who already had netflix through a friend or family creating their own account

[gusty kiln]

yeah and most normies still wouldn't want to torrent

[ashen spindle]

consumers lost, I won

[gusty kiln]

kek nice

the only real threat netflix face is the hulu+disney+espn bundle

[astral haven]

what does hulu sub get you?

[gusty kiln]

live TV

[reef patrol]

A hoop to hula with.

[gusty kiln]

wait nvm

live tv is a seperate charge

[astral haven]

with ads oof

[gusty kiln]

yeah, the middle one is the only one worth paying

same price as netflix premium

or just pay >$5/month for a vpn

[astral haven]

my problem with hulu is they have paid content on top of the subscription and its super hard to tell which is which

[gusty kiln]

yeah

wtf, is anyone else having an issue where a google search will just show a blank page?

[astral haven]

mine is fine

speaking of subs
I bought the nebula 1 time deal, really hope they survive lol

[gusty kiln]

is that a youtube alternative?

[astral haven]

floatplane alternative

[gusty kiln]

ah

[astral haven]

tho its 1 sub for all

[astral haven]

oof

[gusty kiln]

like wtf

only for random searches too

it's fine on firefox

chrome is bugging out

[astral haven]

clear cookies probably

[gusty kiln]

lemme try

[old marlin]

wtf are theseeee

[astral haven]

buds or iems?

[gusty kiln]

looks like buds

clearing cookies fixed it, thanks

[astral haven]

yea seems like it
that seems like it would fall out very easily from the weight unless thats just plastic

[gusty kiln]

time to re-login into everything....

[astral haven]

https://www.techpowerup.com/309947/pc-game-pass-library-arriving-on-geforce-now-later-this-year
o dang

[gusty kiln]

oooo

does that include EA play, like how game pass already includes it?

[astral haven]

geforce now steam deck native app when?

[gusty kiln]

3 levels of game subscriptions

[astral haven]

separate subscriptions

[gusty kiln]

awww

regular gamepass already includes EA play

[astral haven]

but you can also just use geforce now for free

[gusty kiln]

oh really?

[astral haven]

and you can get kicked off

[gusty kiln]

nvm don't need geforce now for native desktop

[astral haven]

in fact i think theres a time limit built in?

[gusty kiln]

great for ally/deck

[astral haven]

yea thats why i said this

[gusty kiln]

not a bad idea, shame it's gigabyte

[astral haven]

uh
what?

[gusty kiln]

it's so that your side panel won't be smashed against the cable

[ashen spindle]

https://videocardz.com/newz/gigabyte-quietly-launches-geforce-rtx-4090-with-hidden-12vhpwr-power-connector

that one

[gusty kiln]

what's that back portion suppose to go into?

[astral haven]

wdym?

[ashen spindle]

the support bracket thing? no clue

mabye that can fit the motherboard screws?

[frozen ingot]

man I member when gigabyte stood for quality

[gusty kiln]

or maybe a gigabyte case that also uses the flipped motherboard pins

[frozen ingot]

how things change

sad

[gusty kiln]

the big 3 are basically indistinguishable other than aesthetics

[astral haven]

i dont lol
i do remember when they had more impressive marketing tho

[frozen ingot]

their 775 boards were great

I had like 3 different ones

very reliable and clocked like heck

[astral haven]

until the caps sploded

[frozen ingot]

was never an issue for me

[astral haven]

gigabyte was the last holdout for electrolytics from the main brands

[frozen ingot]

what

there were no electrolytics on either of the boards

[astral haven]

well maybe not the last

but they were putting them on 775

[frozen ingot]

msi still used them aplenty at the time

[astral haven]

was msi even a major brand then?

i dont remember

[frozen ingot]

https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/v04AAOSw0VhihTrP/s-l1600.jpg

P35-DS4

had one of those at the time

had a DS3 as well

if they still used electrolytics on the 775 boards it musta been on the very earliest ones

that board is from 2007 or so

[frozen ingot]

ehh kinda, they were pretty common but lower end than gigabyte or asus

I got an E5200 dual-core from 2.5ghz to 3.84ghz stable on a P35-DS3

[astral haven]

heres a board from 2008 with them lying about cap type

[frozen ingot]

that still has electrolytics yes

entry level board I assume

[astral haven]

sure

[frozen ingot]

they do point out the solid caps are for cpu vrm only

[astral haven]

except the cpu vrm has electrolytics

[frozen ingot]

those blue/silver ones look solid

[misty saffron]

“lying about lie type”

[frozen ingot]

but there's only like 5 of them

[misty saffron]

sorry i’ll go away now

[astral haven]

and they are surrounded by electrolytics lmao

[frozen ingot]

are they really for cpu vrm though

I don't know, am no expert on mobo design

[astral haven]

yes?

they did the low side filtering with solid caps (potentially, they could still be sealed electrolytics), and the high side with obvious electrolytics

[frozen ingot]

so its sorta half-truth marketing

which I don't condone ofc

my boards were all solid though

[astral haven]

Sure but it wasn't gigabyte that was quality
It just happened you bought their nicer boards lol...

[frozen ingot]

which was quality

I mean if you'd buy entry level asus or msi at the time you'd get most or all electrolytic everywhere

so its not like gigabyte were alone with doing that

gigabyte obviously wasn't spotless, but need to put into perspective against the competition at the time

I'd say they're a lot worse with enhancing the truth these days

msi and asus has also gone down the deep end of bullshittery in more recent years

[astral haven]

Yup
But as a former budget buyer, I don't remember sentiment online being any better for gigabyte vs Asus or dfi

[frozen ingot]

yeah am not claiming they were outright better than whatever the competitors did in similar price brackets, just that they used to make solid performing stuff in that regard

nowadays you have them making high end hardware that has numerous serious flaws

[astral haven]

yea they made the mistake of making am4 and 5 motherboards lol

[wheat plume]

YouTube has full on quizzes now.... Wtf

[astral haven]

gotta jump on that social media hypetrain, this seems like it could be useful

[pale sigil]

lmfao

i need reddit rn

this sucls

[astral haven]

in 2 days itll be over, reddit will have won, and the changes will not be rolled back 😦

i hope we can go back to the days of a dedicated forum for each genre of issue so that pagerank can go back to working

but yea reddit is far too convenient

my youtube recommendations have been taken over by people literally reading the top posts from a subreddit and thats the whole video

[pale sigil]

i cant access my docker containers outside the network

[pale sigil]

So close go buying a mini dell or some shit

[halcyon moss]

Set it to the correct network, specify the the ports.. Should not have anything to do on what you run out on

[old gulch]

tell me \

argh looks like a Corsair now

[snow moon]

What's up?

[crimson wigeon]

Did something happen?

[reef patrol]

Massive community protest, blacking out subreddits against Reddit's new API changes.

Basically killing off all third party apps.

[crimson wigeon]

I know that

Feels kinda weird without leddit but I'll manage

[reef patrol]

So why ask? 😄

[crimson wigeon]

Because what's up to a message about nothing changing and reddit winning to me implied something changed

[wheat plume]

Imma miss infinity ;_;
Best Reddit app

[halcyon moss]

relay was playing with the idea of a € 2/month subscription

[lofty pivot]

Honestly reddit could fix the issues so easily, just make a decent set of mod tools, allow modding bots, then update their alien app that they bought

Then no one would care anymore

Kind of dumb that they didn’t fix those issues long ago

[crimson wigeon]

As if big corpos know how to make apps better. They only want useless fluff that increases "engagement" and tons of telemetry tracking

[halcyon moss]

or, make the user pay with reddit, set decent api limits.

[latent mural]

anyone know if the xl2540k is still a good monitor?

[late sequoia]

depends on how much you can pick one up for

if the xg2431 or the acer 390hz is available in your market for around the same price, and if fps games are all you are purchasing this monitor for, those are better buys

when i was in the states, the 390hz acer was only like $30 more than a 2540k so it made sense to buy the acer instead

[latent mural]

its refurbished on benq website for 350 aud

the 390hz isnt available in australia anymore and when it was it was 800 dollars

[left grail]

The xl2546k yep because of DyAc but not the xl2540k. tbh 350 bucks for a 240hz TN 1080p monitor without DyAc+ is not worth it

[latent mural]

its australian dollars, so like 230 usd

[late sequoia]

have you checked second hand marketplaces? there are some pretty crazy deals

[latent mural]

ive checked ebay but not fb marketplace yeet

[late sequoia]

where i live, the 2566k retails for around $700-$750, and i saw one on a local classifieds website for $400

[latent mural]

there is a 40 dollar alienware lmao

[late sequoia]

i think that might be a scam hahah

"i hope you can seize this rare opportunity"

[latent mural]

if i was able to pick it up then i could see if it is

lmao i just read that

he prolly gonna give just the stand or smth lol

[late sequoia]

keep scouring there are some really good deals on these websites

[latent mural]

there is a 2546 for 250 aud

[late sequoia]

i left some stuff in a storage unit once and found my monitor being auctioned off for $60

[latent mural]

lol was it a good monitor

[late sequoia]

it was 3 months old and retailed for $300

[polar sapphire]

Does lubricating and modding the wooting 60he have a performance advantage? Or does it only help with sound/feel?

[latent mural]

strictly sound and feel

[late sequoia]

the 2k 165hz dell one

[latent mural]

damn

[late sequoia]

that's not bad

i mean cheap enough that i'd risk it personally

[latent mural]

yea

alot of alienware 240hz

[late sequoia]

most markets don't have the good competitors to benq's 240hz offerings at a reasonable price

i feel like for most people the best value proposition is buying a second hand 2546k

[latent mural]

yea im looking for those now

i know there is better options but its in my area ill keep looking but this seems like a good option

[jolly badge]

they are old panels and kinda bad

you are looking at something with backlight strobing

zowies with dyac+ or the xg2431

the 390hz acer is hard to find in aus but I've seen a few sell for between 300-500

[latent mural]

i cant find anything in australia im prolly gonna end up forking out the 750 dollars for the 2546k

[pale sigil]

Didn't realise how much I rely on it for help till last night

[halcyon moss]

i just search for something, first hits were reddit hits

and the subreddit was private... dammit

[reef patrol]

[pale sigil]

Ye haha

[somber ridge]

yea, its crazy, i wanted to flash a keyboard for the first time with qmk yesterday, and all the reddit guides are down. It was such a pain

[halcyon moss]

google has a cache button at the 3 dots of a result

thats what i had to resort to 😢

[jolly badge]

I was talking australia, if you are buying new xg2431 is the way to go. Checkout optimum tech he has a great review on it.

[stoic thorn]

just orderd razor viper ultimate hope its good

[frozen ingot]

well the mouse is

the software however

[stoic thorn]

yeah thats the problem with razor

luckily i barley even interact with my current soft ware

just set dpi to 800 and ill be fine

[frozen ingot]

yeah g hub ain't exactly a homerun either but I rarely ever touch it

[stoic thorn]

yeah i got the g502

shees a oldie and has served me well

weight diffrence is gonna be a lil wild

[left grail]

Atleast there is Onboard Memory Manager for logitech mouse.

[sacred sleet]

800????

[stoic thorn]

yes?

[sacred sleet]

Dang son, mine doesn’t go below 1800 😂😂

[stoic thorn]

thats kinda standard

400 is more standard but 800 is common

[frozen ingot]

the memory management is kinda clunky though imo, you have to toggle between that and being able to access the settings

[stoic thorn]

i used to be 3600

[sacred sleet]

Have I been missing something then? 🤣