🔌│tech

[fair gull]

ya no the interesting channels i watch release a video every few months

[shadow minnow]

And then sometimes a rabbit hole takes me, like scammer baiting, history battle analysis, and idk what else now

[fair gull]

although its quality 1-2h documentary

so

eh

[shadow minnow]

Gotta report that to your supervisor smh

[fair gull]

the rest is filled with suggested videos about anything and everything

[shadow minnow]

Such irresponsibility smh, should be fired

[reef patrol]

Suffice to say I skip a lot of content over the week 😄

[ashen spindle]

you're a skipper? D:

how could you

[shadow minnow]

Reminds me I should watch something on YouTube but idk what, not in any rabbit hole rn

I keep clicking the super react button why is it where normal reactions would be smh

[reef patrol]

retard retard retard retard

AFP95 in a nutshell.

[shadow minnow]

My YouTube recommendations site sucks rn sadly

[snow moon]

Bro out here hoarding subs

[ashen spindle]

dear god I once again regret looking at comments

people are really so damn confident in spouting shit takes

[pale sigil]

HOLY

[astral haven]

nabbad

[pale sigil]

indeed

very very good price

and im its not dram

[astral haven]

and qlc

[pale sigil]

For storage i think its a no brainer

[pale sigil]

https://github.com/apple/homebrew-apple

Proton for MacOS

@crisp granite

@shadow minnow

[rough osprey]

so dx12 on macos now

[crisp granite]

Ok

Something interesting

[severe phoenix]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GEri9UdL7_4

[severe phoenix]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1104834999397658807/1115876268689326120/2k44a6.png

52$ USD for a 2TB NVME? Roll those dice, folks!

[reef patrol]

Fanxiang

[severe phoenix]

lol

I mean what, it's not gonna explode, right?>:P

[reef patrol]

I personally wouldn't order anything where warranty is a real concern from China.

[severe phoenix]

92$ for a Gen4 one. :p

https://www.aliexpress.us/item/3256804859848349.html?spm=a2g0o.productlist.main.3.2a5787JD87JDIy&algo_pvid=0e37fc2b-8a9a-4965-a4a9-c0056f02ab85&algo_exp_id=0e37fc2b-8a9a-4965-a4a9-c0056f02ab85-1&pdp_npi=3%40dis!USD!84.99!58.64!!!!!%402102172f16861205339302793d075c!12000031485767902!sea!US!4234888169&curPageLogUid=kMqt7k4sCb3h

Haha yeah

Just saw this and was like

[reef patrol]

I'll gladly wait for prices to come down and enjoy my EU consumer protections 😄

[severe phoenix]

For a really really budget build

These might appeal

Someone should do that, build the ultimate budget build using Chinese unknown brand parts and see how much perf you can get

[reef patrol]

Unless the seller has pre-paid customs on Ali, savings would get eaten up by fees here regardless. 😦

[severe phoenix]

Damn that sucks, for me it's FS and no customs or taxes or anything

Not in need of more storage right now, but I definitely would've been tempted in the past

[fair gull]

see how long the ssd lasts... i think that would be my main concern... the cells not all dying after 3 writes

or its just fake capacity to begin with

64gb ssd marketed as 4 higher caps

[hasty thunder]

i have 3 of them for more than 2 years now and they're still healthy at 93%

[reef patrol]

I'm still incapable of filling mine up. So haven't really needed a Gen4 upgrade 😄

[old gulch]

rich boi... although no doubt

what make/model of SSD is the OS on?

[reef patrol]

It's Corsair's (now old) 400 model... whatsthename

[old gulch]

MP400?

[fair gull]

i use some low end samsung 1tb nvme and it works fine and i cant fill it

[reef patrol]

That's the one.

One of my last review samples before I quite that job 😄

I vaguely recall it being at the height of NVME gate.

Where Linus and other media started reporting on how manufacturers would swap out components on the NVMEs giving reviewers "golden" SKUs with often higher performance than what customers would get (especially months later)

[solemn wave]

i know OCZ SSDs swapped out nand flash chips after the fact to save costs 😦

[old gulch]

some products still get the "review model" and "retail model" labels today :p

[old marlin]

ssd drive health sadly doesn't mean much

more often than not they will pretty suddenly die

since they rarely die from being overused

[old gulch]

what do you buy my g

[reef patrol]

They hid this from consumers and reviewers.

I think Linus managed to find five? revisions of the same exact NVME, which was supposed to be one and the same.

[old marlin]

most drives that do die die early on

[reef patrol]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K07sEM6y4Uc
There it is.

[old marlin]

the ones that don't die randomly tend to live quite a bit longer

[old gulch]

TechPowerUp now just gives this label in case their stuff was swapped

[old marlin]

ssds are also affected by the bathtub curve

[solemn wave]

i have this exact ssd lol

[hasty thunder]

i don't watch Linus anymore. His videos are mostly click baits and not something you'd do irl

[old marlin]

when was that ever different?

[old marlin]

this btw

[hasty thunder]

i mean who'd build a NAS with 1000 TB?

[old marlin]

since the wearing out of a decent SSD would take absolute ages it's not that much of a concern

[old gulch]

you realise those are his own, running as he speaks on set

[reef patrol]

I can think of plenty of companies that would.

[old marlin]

a ton of large companies

[old gulch]

tons of those in his LTT warehouse

[old marlin]

he doesn't just purely build them for fun

they use that amount of storage

[old gulch]

some stuff at home

depends on what you do in front of a YT vid lol

doze off? Then probably everything is clickbait bc you see the topic title but never hear it

[old gulch]

man's never heard of supercomputers with even more storage

[old marlin]

supercomputers typically don't have a ton of storage

at least not mass storage

[old gulch]

not magnetic tape quantities, fs

[old marlin]

mass storage does not mean magnetic tape

[fair gull]

slowly raises hand

[old marlin]

do you think youtube for example would store their content on magnetic tapes

or on a supercomputer

[old gulch]

then I have to ask, how long does it take for them to come up with meaningful results worth storing? how does storage work in supercomputing :p

[fair gull]

yes for those fast 8k60 video streams

[old gulch]

not what I meant but ok

could be HDDs, SATA SSDs, optical disks for all I know

[old marlin]

they don't

frontier for example

An I/O subsystem from HPE that will come online this year to support Frontier and the OLCF

aka

storage system from HP

with a capacity of ~700PB

[old gulch]

ah, so a dedicated storage system

[old marlin]

based on the cray clusterstor E1000

which is a storage system

[old gulch]

what about "cheaper" supercomputers? Like not government or big company funded

[old marlin]

typically the same

as soon as you decide to not do everything on a single machine you start splitting into storage and compute

so you begin seeing that in quite small companies even

on the suypercomputer itself I would not be surprised to only find a small amount of storage

that basically only serves to empty and fill the ram

[fair gull]

medium sized companies often already split storage and compute servers

even if its just 2 different 1u servers

[cursive summit]

https://twitter.com/NVIDIAGeForceUK/status/1666352343389028353

NVIDIA GeForce UK (@NVIDIAGeForceUK)

Summer of RTX heats up with #SummerGameFest this week🔥

Like + Comment + Share to win from:

🟢(460) GeForce RTX 4060 Family GPUs
🟢 (2) GeForce RTX 4090 FE
🟢 (2) GeForce RTX 4080 FE
🟢 (3) Custom GPU Backplates + GPU
🟢 (2) G-SYNC Displays
🟢 (1) Custom 4090 Build

#RTXON

Likes

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Twitter · Jun 7, 2023, 7:52 AM

460 4060 cards to be given away?

That's kinda insane

[severe phoenix]

Nah

It's pennies

[cursive summit]

That's still more than any giveaway I've seen

[reef patrol]

They don't link to terms.

That's uh... no bueno.

[cursive summit]

Yeah that's concerning

GeForceUK.. so, it's region locked?

Who knows

I don't see any terms on their website either

Like, this exists, but it's for Diablo https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/geforce/contests/diablo-iv-sweepstakes-official-rules/

They trolling now or what?

[reef patrol]

Just wondering if it will be UK only, since it's UK nVidia posting.

Also they want us to SHARE, but Twitter doesn't have that. It has RETWEETS.

[cursive summit]

Indeed

[reef patrol]

I think there's a very tired and overworked intern somewhere about to catch some heat.

[cursive summit]

Facebook has shares doesn't it?

[reef patrol]

Mhmm.

[cursive summit]

Ahh indeed

It's just a copy off of a Facebook post https://www.facebook.com/NVIDIAGeForceUK

Lol so how do they choose the winners

Just type them out in an excel document from all social media platforms and then pick randomly?

No end date either, smells fish

Unrelated giveaway

Diablo is another one, this is SGF

[cursive summit]

Also I linked it already

Meh it's like 12AM here, in UK it's like 10AM

They'll fix their shit

Which is funny

Cause the post you just sent an image of literally links that link

Whatever, doesn't matter

I need free GPUs though

I was about to teach you about the little known feature where it previews the full URL in bottom left corner

Good thing you fixed from click to hover

Interesting considering SGF is an American event

What's arc

What's lameos

[wheat plume]

MacOS xd

[cursive summit]

Ahhh, Apple users

Well whatever makes you money

[wheat plume]

https://arc.net/

[cursive summit]

Doesn't Apple force you to use Safari?

Or whatever their native browser is

[old gulch]

nah

you can switch browser once you download something else

macOS even prompts you

[cursive summit]

Kinda like with Edge eh, fair enough

[old gulch]

although if I use Safari again after, say, Brave it "asks" me to swap back 💀

[cursive summit]

So what the hell do you even have to browse the net with if it comes without a browser?

Or by built in you mean, you can't uninstall it

[old gulch]

macOS does

[wheat plume]

Yes it is

[old gulch]

what counts as such?

nani doefuk

Take a break, have a kitkat V

[wheat plume]

I think you are mixing up MacOS and iOS in this case

[old marlin]

what is this now

wv2?

[wheat plume]

On iOS
Every browser is just a different UI for safari

[cursive summit]

I have no clue about apple's software so just guessing

[pale sigil]

No?

The hell

[old marlin]

it is

they are all webkit

[wheat plume]

You download chrome on iphone
It's just Safari's engine with chrome UI

[old marlin]

ios only allows webkit

[wheat plume]

Yep

[pale sigil]

The fuck

[old marlin]

macos allows different engines

[pale sigil]

No wonder brave runs great

On my iPad

[old marlin]

now wtf is the arc browser

[pale sigil]

I can't believe I'm a scrub safari user

Chromium

[old marlin]

literally only one that interests me rn

is the duck duck go browser

since it is wv2

[pale sigil]

currently

[old marlin]

so what should make me care about it?

[pale sigil]

Devs have a boner for it

[old marlin]

yea but like

what does it do

like the thing about wv2 is that it is stupid fast apparently

oh god

it looks horrible

yea but I use win 11 so I get that already

or do you mean the sidebar

[hasty thunder]

yuck

[old marlin]

what is the problem with that

like really

[hasty thunder]

what's not the problem with Win11?

[old marlin]

besides having to change contextmenus ONCE

it is basically just win 10 but better

[hasty thunder]

honestly? Win 10 was basically just an improvement of Win 8.1

the last good and real OS was XP

i don't count 7, 'cause 7 was basically Vista, but fixed

[old marlin]

"the last good windows was 98"

obv

wdym?

eh

I mean I could get behind that

but I usuallty have too many tabs open for that without a UI for it

[left grail]

Vivaldi can do it

Switched to it yesterday and I think I don't wanna use another browser anymore

[cursive summit]

Vivaldi has that insane tab grouping feature that I can't find good addons for Firefox to replicate

Kind of irking me to actually switch from Firefox but I love my foxxie boio too much

[molten wraith]

need a browser that wipes all image metadeta/exif upon download

[cursive summit]

k, illegal

Just use incognito/private mode

No browser will alter image files for you

Unless you screenshot the image or something

https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2023/06/hands-on-with-apple-vision-pro-this-is-not-a-vr-headset/

[misty saffron]

In fact, despite all the rumors calling it VR (and despite some articles still erroneously doing so) the Vision Pro is not a VR headset at all—even though it uses VR-like techniques to present the real world to you. It can do some things a VR headset can do, but none of the use cases Apple showed me—not even any that were shown in Monday’s keynote—would be called virtual reality.

Tellingly, Apple hasn’t announced any immersive VR games for the device. The few games the company did talk about during the WWDC keynote were 2D games played on a virtual TV.

yeah like no shit

it's out in a year

why exactly would they want to show games and look like yet another headset if they can show the unique stuff

[molten wraith]

nah

[misty saffron]

Even when turning the crown all the way up to maximize immersion, I was still much more aware of my surroundings than in any VR headset. So if you’re expecting a successor to the Oculus and Meta Quest throne, forget about it. That’s not what Vision Pro is.

whatever this is meant to mean also

"i need a hot take headline, quick!"

[ashen spindle]

it means yet another person writing about it without knowing the field and only knows meta quest exists not what a varjo for double this price is

[rough osprey]

ah so the apple thing is a bit over 500g

and the extra head strap seems to be kinda needed

[ashen spindle]

There was also an image spotted with an optional strap above the head like for headphones so if needs brag should have more than enough stability

[rough osprey]

ye that's the one

[astral haven]

"TrendForce anticipates a modest shipment volume of approximately 200,000 units for Apple Vision Pro in 2024."

if true, thats 700 million in revenue...

[ashen spindle]

That’s around the same numbers brad mentioned at one point

[astral haven]

id be insanely shocked if apple manages to move half of that

without dropping the price

[ashen spindle]

Well that’s about how much they can ship so I don’t think they will need to worry too much until later in the year if it really takes long

[astral haven]

or maybe 3000 is their target price and the headset will fall to that as a marketing move so that it can be easier to justify?

[fading ore]

I'd be shocked if the sale volume was that low

[astral haven]

this is manufacturing volume

they aint making a whole lot more than that

[ashen spindle]

Yeah

[fickle ore]

ANTICIPATES kekw, let me consult my magic ball

[fading ore]

So it's one of those things I should scalp ? 🙃

[fickle ore]

yeah buy 10x apple goggles

[astral haven]

you can try ofc lol

[fading ore]

Apple doesn't usually under-ship products. I assume they'd scale manufacturing volume up pretty quickly

[ashen spindle]

I mean get one, keep it sealed and if you are lucky in 20 years it’s worth millions as the first one of its kind like an iPhone lmao

[astral haven]

the demand for this thing will drive quest 3 and quest 2 pro buyers

[ashen spindle]

They can’t scale faster

[pale sigil]

Don't you literally get shit made on demand when you engrave

[ashen spindle]

They have insanely tight targets to hit and this isn’t some 3d printed Gadget

[pale sigil]

Apple scale fast af

[astral haven]

yea this is the largest chip apple has ever had in the product, and this product requires 2 of them + 2 other huge chips in the m2 and r1

[ashen spindle]

Engravings are nothing compared to this thing

[pale sigil]

No I know but like

[astral haven]

engraving is basically a belt on the end of the production line where they have the laser on or off

[ashen spindle]

They need tsmc wafers for the chips, more wafers for the displays

[pale sigil]

Whenever you order engrave the device comes directly from the factory

[fading ore]

I mean, when apple had chip supply issues they've done split supply in the past (between TSMC and Samsung).

[astral haven]

yes but thats not possible for such a huge and complex part

[fading ore]

They took unfavorable quality products in the past to avoid shortages

[ashen spindle]

They can’t put these chips on Samsung

SS is not up to par for nodes yet

[astral haven]

vestaia
they are making a 600+mm2 silicon wafer that uses an optical node

samsung has an optical node but it maxes out at chips in the 50mm2 size

[ashen spindle]

And for the M/R chips maybe they can make the R chips on Samsung we don’t know what they do but they need the efficiency for the M chip and Samsung isn’t there yet either

[fickle ore]

they are gonna put these chips on intel 18A

[astral haven]

nope

intel doesnt have an optical node

im not talking about the m2 and r1 im talking about the displays

https://electronics.sony.com/imaging/interchangeable-lens-cameras/full-frame/p/ilce7rm5-b
this uses a smaller chip than apple uses per eye as far as i can tell...

this is who its competing for with fab space

[fading ore]

Are their displays not supplied by samsung?

[astral haven]

the outside facing one is

the ones for the eyes are microoleds being fabbed on tsmc

https://www.techpowerup.com/278369/apple-is-reportedly-working-with-tsmc-on-a-special-micro-oled-panel-technology

lg has the patents to print oleds on plastic
samsung has the patents to deposit oleds on glass
and tsmc and a bunch of companies apple bought have the patents to directly etch oleds into silicon

[astral haven]

also we dont know this, it could be chinese or lg for all we know but its most likely samsung

however we do know that tsmc is it for microoleds

now obviously samsung is working on it

[ashen spindle]

will be fun to see some actual BoM estimations once we get these things in peoples hands

once we know what the R1 specs are etc.

[astral haven]

yup
suspect the oledos are gonna be larger than the r1

can only make the chip so large before it is just too big

[ashen spindle]

time to find how often you can stack the reticle limit

[astral haven]

actually hmm
tsmc can make larger camera sensors

https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/buy/Medium-Format-Digital-Cameras/ci/16734/N/4259332394

44x33mm

thats 1450mm2

3700 for one
now i want a $8k 8.2k per eye vr headset...

microoleds cant be that much crazier than cmos sensors right?

[ashen spindle]

no clue

since it depends what the tools would cost

which might be more even if less complex if the demand is lower but then again apple gets the best deals since they already spend all money at tsmc

[astral haven]

both require lithography machines lol, tooling is crazy expensive regardless

[astral haven]

demand for the quest 2 is higher than the entire non cellphone digital camera market

less than 6 million last year and shrinking

[ashen spindle]

yeah but tools for making micro oleds will still be lower than tools for making the other chips

[astral haven]

sure but im paitent (ish)

[ashen spindle]

oh yeah it will go down in the future for sure

[severe phoenix]

https://old.reddit.com/r/Windows11/comments/13xpf8u/how_do_i_get_rid_of_this_pride_flag/ Whoa this is weird

I thought it was a misunderstood icon

Or something

But it's legit

[reef patrol]

[ashen spindle]

nice, making people mad over the smallest things is fun

[crimson wigeon]

Where does that even show?

[reef patrol]

There's a literal screenshot 😄

In the notification area.

[crimson wigeon]

Which notification area? Isn't that the useless widgets I only ever see when I accidentally hit winkey+w? But I don't have the flag there...

[severe phoenix]

I don't have it on my windows 11, but I don't have which it's enabled I think so I don't know

[reef patrol]

The one and only one.

[crimson wigeon]

Unless it's only in certain regions..

[ashen spindle]

Florida only kek

[crimson wigeon]

whta

[ashen spindle]

Would be funny

Maybe Texas too to trigger the most

[crimson wigeon]

How about showing it in countries where LGBT stuff is punished by death or something ecks dee

[ashen spindle]

That would be funny if someone sees it on a Saudi princes pc

[frozen ingot]

where its actually needed to be shown the most

[ashen spindle]

Then gain Florida is trying it’s hardest to make it punishable again and some likely would like death for it too

Desantis is doing a strong push for the dumbest things

[frozen ingot]

Ron DeISIS

christian extremism is family values

[pale sigil]

I'm a little conflicted

Because I'm all for pride but at the same time I'm not the biggest fan of Microsoft doing this

But sadly we don't own shit

[reef patrol]

https://twitter.com/josephfcox/status/1666477389755437056

Joseph Cox (@josephfcox)

New: people are pirating access to GPT-4 by scraping code online. In one case, someone gained access to an account with $150,000 usage limit, now offering access for free via a website and Discord server. Why pay for GPT-4 when you can just steal it? https://t.co/YIZqcJNLV3

Twitter · Jun 7, 2023, 4:09 PM

You wouldn't download an algorithm

[crimson wigeon]

Aah the good old accidentally leaving API tokens in public code

[cursive summit]

The thing with GPT-4 is, is the API actually monetized or free?

[gusty kiln]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JFgsL5NFn_Y

[cursive summit]

How did AutoGPT project get access to the GPT-4 code?

Cause the whole thing of "iterating upon yourself" would cost so much

That it can't be monetized right?

[marsh glade]

https://tenor.com/view/ah-shit-here-we-go-again-ah-shit-cj-gta-gta-san-andreas-gif-13933485

[reef patrol]

[cursive summit]

What

Surely not real

[reef patrol]

https://twitter.com/josephfcox/status/1666478257674305544

Joseph Cox (@josephfcox)

Here is a screenshot of the website that was using a stolen OpenAI API key to then offer free GPT-4 access to those who signed up https://t.co/YIZqcJNLV3

Twitter · Jun 7, 2023, 4:12 PM

[cursive summit]

No but still

I don't get how GPT-4 is distributed

AutoGPT just is free to download and runs on GPT-4

Who pays for it?

[astral haven]

you do if you use it

[hasty elm]

Just take away the crack smh

[vagrant pagoda]

https://www.justice.gov/usao-nj/united-states-v-onur-aksoy-pro-network

[wheat plume]

Apparently this is Linux kernel 6's codename

And I love it :')

[sharp badger]

https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/newsroom/news/powervia-intel-achieves-chipmaking-breakthrough.html Intel out here making Pizzas 🍕

[astral haven]

yea neat whatever, productize it

https://www.nature.com/articles/s41586-023-06004-9
this on the other hand
70% faster than state of the art sorting algorithm created by google using ML

[cursive summit]

This is literally the future of science

Making AI's that iterate upon themselves with all the knowledge in the world to invent new tech for us

[astral haven]

and theres also no possible way for this to go wrong

/s if it wasnt obvious

[fickle ore]

boring

How did that shit end up in Nature

[astral haven]

if intel released a 70% faster cpud id be interested

and while the content is dry, the results are extremely impressive

[fickle ore]

everyoen else 2 years behind sounds sweet

Missed buying intel at 29$ yesterday 😭

[ashen spindle]

it will go lower dont worry

[sharp badger]

They say it'll draw less power and be >5% better frequency

[fickle ore]

Didn't read fully yet but is it because of thermals?

[astral haven]

yep

[fickle ore]

Nice, pog

[sharp badger]

It's because of the seperated and fatter wires to power and interconnection but it's also down to how they make the chips

[lusty forge]

would it be okay if i dropped my pc build link in here. looking for feedback. its okay if its not allowed.

its thru pcpartpicker

[ashen spindle]

yeah go ahead

[analog sinew]

this is the point of the channel I think

[lusty forge]

https://pcpartpicker.com/user/bchap13/saved/zXzW99

any feedback would be appreciated. thanks yall

[cursive summit]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=82LZkglNiQ0

[astral haven]

why relink?

[hasty thunder]

got my new desk today and gotta say... 2 meters in width is almost too big

but hey

https://tenor.com/view/its-free-real-sate-gif-7215175

[pale sigil]

@ashen spindle much of a difference?

[vagrant pagoda]

why do they have so little reviews?

[ashen spindle]

between those two? or compared to something else

[vagrant pagoda]

it has to be the best selling dual fan cooler

[pale sigil]

those two

[pale sigil]

isnt sold in the UK

[vagrant pagoda]

???

[ashen spindle]

I mean its just rgb in one

[vagrant pagoda]

yeah it is

maybe not amazon though

[pale sigil]

i only see it on amazon uk third party

[pale sigil]

thats what im wondering but its cheaper lol

[vagrant pagoda]

must be a new thing

prob a brexit thing XD

[ashen spindle]

I mean if its not the same seller its clearance sales or w/e

[pale sigil]

it is

[ashen spindle]

especially if its 3rd party as you say

[pale sigil]

same seller

[ashen spindle]

yeah idk clearance or so maybe

[vagrant pagoda]

its like 40 usd too

so that isnt the best price anyway

[pale sigil]

ah its sound

and fans are worse

[pale sigil]

it is here

xD

[ashen spindle]

its about the same if you add in tax

the 40 gbp one

[vagrant pagoda]

we have tax too though

[pale sigil]

quin means your price after tax is prob similar

[ashen spindle]

no I mean due to tax the 40gbp is similar to 40 usd

here 45€ is the cheapest I can see

[pale sigil]

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Thermalright-Peerless-Aluminium-Technology-PA120-White/dp/B0BL7HHNMS/ref=sr_1_2?crid=1VU3ROFQRBN1E&keywords=Thermalright+Peerless+Assassin+120+White&qid=1686171854&sprefix=thermalright+peerless+assassin+120+white%2Caps%2C70&sr=8-2

my current aio is dying

i think ill get this and rma my liquid cooler

then try to sell it

[ashen spindle]

https://twitter.com/Tech_Reve/status/1666298966600986625 hmm

Revegnus (@Tech_Reve)

Apple Vision Pro BOM table
Total cost: $1509

The component with the highest proportion in manufacturing cost is the Sony display, costing $700. Next is the assembly cost for LuxShare, which is $130, followed by the $120 M2 processor.

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Twitter · Jun 7, 2023, 4:20 AM

not sure how much I trust this though

[astral haven]

wait so sony is making the microoleds?

[vagrant pagoda]

yeah

for ages

[astral haven]

i thought apple licensed the tech and had tsmc make them directly?

[vagrant pagoda]

i think they make the highest end ones

[ashen spindle]

I think you are thinking of meta who acquired imagine?

I dont remember apple having the tech directly being mentioned anywhere

[vagrant pagoda]

what do you think is in thier camera viewfinders XD

[astral haven]

emagin

[ashen spindle]

urgh yeah hate these names

[astral haven]

yes but i thought they were working in parallel

[vagrant pagoda]

?

[astral haven]

samsung also has some

[vagrant pagoda]

huh?

[astral haven]

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-apple-tsmc-oled/apple-partners-with-tsmc-to-develop-micro-oled-displays-for-ar-devices-nikkei-idUSKBN2AA096

[vagrant pagoda]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QkJJA0PCOxI

[astral haven]

https://mixed-news.com/en/apple-to-produce-its-own-microled-displays-report/

i am aware that samsung and sony both make microoleds

but the rumor on the block was that apple went their own way working directly with tsmc

[vagrant pagoda]

rumor has been sony for years

[wind haven]

Hello guys can somebody help me with my keyboard because when I press H it will come the letter M thanks

[ashen spindle]

#1019755933959733258

[pale sigil]

nice its quieter than my current

[astral haven]

https://www.sony.com/en/SonyInfo/research/images/technologies/OLED_microdisplay/section1-1_pc.jpg
inconclusive

[ashen spindle]

I dont trust a report that writes microLED when the discussions would be about microOLED

[vagrant pagoda]

https://www.ledinside.com/node/32454

i thought it was always sony

[astral haven]

yea but they arent using 4k microoleds

[pale sigil]

@gusty kiln Thanks for the recommendation btw of @vagrant pagoda

[vagrant pagoda]

tsmc as just fab

[pale sigil]

whoeerver it was

gonna get one for myself too

im at 75c on my aio xD

[empty pasture]

@pale sigil does the wooting keyboards show up in device manager as wooting or hid/device

[pale sigil]

hid

pretty sure

[empty pasture]

my device mang is showing 3 hid 😦

only have my interent card and the wooting60he in

[ashen spindle]

disable controller feature if you want to remove the other entries

[empty pasture]

ooooooh thank youi

[pale sigil]

btw it seems to be the white ones that have a markup

q-q

ok

now im more confused

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Thermalright-Peerless-TL-C12W-S-Aluminium-Technology/dp/B0BN52V2VX/ref=sr_1_14?crid=VADLKZKZ69VH&keywords=Thermalright+Peerless+Assassin+120&qid=1686173438&sprefix=thermalright+peerless+assassin+120+%2Caps%2C66&sr=8-14

same one but rgb>?

????????????????????????????????????????

so i may as well get rbg one

lol

im sure i can turn rgp off

since its argb

ye i can

gross

not next day

We are no third world country, two day delivery is unacceptable.

ah, now it makes sense... this one is from somewhere in europe

@vagrant pagoda@prisma crag do you guys think the fans will be worse or the same since rbg?

i would prob replace with them p12s

if they are worse

[astral haven]

use what it comes with unless the performance isnt enough?

[pale sigil]

Ye, i will, but sound means a lot to me 😄

they seem to be very quiet stock.

But idk if the rgb version is worse

[ashen spindle]

just let it run slower and 5C hotter then

you dont have a super heavy cpu anyway for cooling

[pale sigil]

Noctua bae

but cant really justify it

with this bad boy

[digital haven]

Buy Noctua DH-15 and be done with it

[pale sigil]

haha i used to have one of those bad boys

Wish they had white

[digital haven]

https://www.amazon.com/Noctua-NH-D15-Cooler-chromax-White-heatsink/dp/B09HJD4L99

[ashen spindle]

your cpu draws like 75W under max load so basically never

you dont need the beefiest cooler for that

[pale sigil]

Thats fake white

[digital haven]

yeah?

[pale sigil]

Fans are driving me fucking nuts

atm

They keep ramping up

[ashen spindle]

the cooler can cool over 200W so worst case you literally turn off a fan and are good still

[pale sigil]

DAMN

[gusty kiln]

what rec?

[molten wraith]

i dont think samsung/ new samsung panel manufacturer knows how to make micro oleds that small

im forgot why but people were saying that micro oleds wont be mainstream for like 10 more years because you can't make the micro oled small enough yet to turn them into a monitor so im kind of wondering what happened

[ashen spindle]

idk who said that but we knew for years now that micro oled would be not too far away and coming this year/next

[astral haven]

I have microoled ar glasses at home

[gusty kiln]

yeet

[astral haven]

in fact the first microoled was over 15 years ago
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=135KjEpyBv0

[fading ore]

You can. We've been fabricating them for experiments in the physics department for some time now.

[astral haven]

i mean we cant use them to make a 27 inch monitor or whatever
biggest we can currently go is 1.4ish inches

[fading ore]

There's no technological reason why they aren't currently mainstream

It's just not in high demand

We can, it's not that difficult to make them

[astral haven]

microoleds?

as in >1000 ppi...

[molten wraith]

yeah it was just a reddit comment so i didnt take it too seriously

i think it boils down to panel manufacturer issue since they make the tv's with them but dont want to cut the panels to monitor size probably + no profit

[astral haven]

confusing microoled and microled

[molten wraith]

well the panel issue is valid for both microoled and microled

[fading ore]

Yeah we use silicon microLEDs for particle detectors

[astral haven]

microled vs microoleds

[fading ore]

Oh sorry didn't see the second O

OLED is self assembling, it's much easier to make than microLEDs hence its popularity

[molten wraith]

whos the confused one here

[fading ore]

since they're cheaper than LCD panels to make, it's very profitable to sell these.

[astral haven]

its a very different issue
microleds = small individual leds that you put behind an lcd
microOleds = displays the size of a postage stamp with over a million pixels

[molten wraith]

they make micro oled tv's

[astral haven]

wrong

[molten wraith]

yeah im wrong i mis remembered

[astral haven]

a tv made of microoleds with lets say 48 inch diagonal would cost something on the order of 2 million dollars in microoled displays alone

[mild dome]

Seems people are mixing up MircoLED and MicroOLED
Maybe they shoulda called it MicroOledButPleaseUnderstandItIsNotTheSameAsMicroLedThePrimaryDifferenceBeingThatMicroOledUsesAnOrganicLightEmittingDiodeWhilstTheOtherUsesTraditionalSemiconductors

[astral haven]

lets switch to oledOS

oledos is the tech used to make most microOled microdisplays

i found some cheaper oledOS displays online, and you can fill up a 48 inch tv using 579k usd worth of microdisplays

what a bargain

[mild dome]

Oledos sounds like a Mexican bootleg cereal

[ashen spindle]

thats why I always type it out as two words so micro oled should be clear what I mean

[astral haven]

that would be the resolution

148k

[mild dome]

What is the burn in like on these things?

[astral haven]

when it happens its severe and instant

but it only happens over a certain temperature

[pale sigil]

I'm considering getting a 30m ethernet cable and hiding it

[mild dome]

With how hot Apple's tech runs sounds like it's going to be severe and instant

[ashen spindle]

what

[pale sigil]

Some of it I can put under a dog bed and carpet

[ashen spindle]

the overheating laptop isn't normal apple behaviour lol

[astral haven]

Nah apple always gets as close to the limit as the manufacturer suggests

[astral haven]

Yes it is lol

[ashen spindle]

that was running out of limit and the normal one is as you said withing the limit

[mild dome]

Apple only ramps the fan up once the CPU start approaching 100C

[astral haven]

The difference tho is even tho the laptop is 95c
The tjmax is 115c so its fine

[mild dome]

Now add dust

[astral haven]

The temperature stays the same because it throttles

[ashen spindle]

that isn't a bad thing per se

if its not making the cpu throttle its not an issue

[astral haven]

Well no apple chooses to let the CPU throttle rather than make the machine louder

[mild dome]

If it's sitting next to an OLED panel it could be an issue.

[ashen spindle]

if it makes it so the heat dissipates over the chassis rather than an exhaust then its an issue

[astral haven]

Nah the temperatures are in the well over 100 range at the diode

The problem is the OLEDos are usually generating their own heat problems

[mild dome]

Look man, given Apple's track record of design flaws then blaming the user for "using it wrong" even if it's not instant I am expecting a lot of failures

[ashen spindle]

do they actually have a track record of flaws aside from the one iphone wiht holding it wrong memes and the one overheating laptop?

[astral haven]

Everyone else who makes oledos puts temperature sensors on them and shuts them down after a certain temperature

[astral haven]

Too short display cables in MacBooks that broke on their own

[ashen spindle]

like the holding it wrong meme is from over a decade ago, I wouldn't put that on a track record for recent products

[astral haven]

Different display cables that have 48v backlight power directly next to pins directly connected to the GPU, so when the backlight ic blows it sends 200v straight into the GPU of the laptop

The whole flexing of the iphone 6 and plus causing the touch ic to pop off the motherboard
And they didn't fix it in the 7
In the 8 they "fixed" it by making the back out of glass so that if it bent that amount, the glass would crack, making it the user's fault

Batterygate ofc

Apple has a not great track record
The only one that had an official fix was batterygate

[ashen spindle]

hm yeah that is more than I was thinking of

[mild dome]

Also the butterfly keyboard that would break really often and was riveted into the board, requiring a thunderbolt daughter board be destroyed in order to remove and replace it

[fading ore]

Airpod pro has oil ingress issues that resulted in failure of ANC
They still haven't acknowledged the issue and attribute it officially to a "small portion of airpods manufacturered before oct 2020".

It is still not fixed on Airpod pro 2s.

Meanwhile reddit has started a conspiracy theory on apple nerfing the airpods with firmware updates instead of spending the 5 minutes it takes to look or check what the problem is 🙃

[mild dome]

The very deliberate decision to serialise practically every part inside their devices (examples being the power chips, cameras, screens, buttons etc) which when replaced will either disable certain functions or in extreme cases brick the device. All to prevent people from repairing their gear is what pisses me off the most. that shit should be banned

[iron wave]

Do any of you know how I can get a camera/OBS output from a Windows VM into OBS on the Linux host?

[molten wraith]

you cant just make a capture region for the vm window?

[iron wave]

I mean yeah, I can do stuff like that I would just prefer to do less jank stuff.

[molten wraith]

https://www.reddit.com/r/VFIO/comments/7bcrfm/comment/dph1xkg network stream is kind of goofy lol but this might still work

if you could get gpu passthrough to work on a vm that could also mean that you would be able to do vram pooling

which you actually can its actually just a pain in the butthole to do it but thats specifically for vram pooling and not made for gpu passthrough in the traditional sense

with modern gpus atleast like the 4090

[astral haven]

well no apple did in fact get sued by a company with some anc patents and they had to modify the firmware
i think it was a licensing dispute?

[fading ore]

Rtings noted 0 change on measurements of new units with old and new firmware. (for airpods pro)

[astral haven]

and soundguys had a pretty significant change 🤷

[fading ore]

the lawsuit is also in progress, with no evidence apple has pulled any software in their phones/devices.
They haven't lost or settled yet --

[astral haven]

thats not how injunctions work

but apple obviously has had enough time to refactor considering that they have that real fancy and awesome sounding simultaneous anc and passthrough

[latent mural]

anyone know if this desk is stable and not wobbly

[fading ore]

Can u link, I can't find any testing soundguys did comparing firmware versions

In their post about the airpods, they also linked to other articles mentioning reduced ANC performance after updates, although none of their links showed any measurements.

[astral haven]

wait no it was rtings

26db before

24 db after

[astral haven]

thats the buds

[fading ore]

Yes, the airpods pro

I made no comments about the max

[astral haven]

airpods max were the ones that had the serious drop

[fading ore]

I agree

[astral haven]

the others just changed slightly

because apple did in fact rework the anc after getting hit by the injunction

i didnt bring it up because they did continue to work on it and it was due to them being hit by a patent troll

theres nothing fundamentally wrong with the hardware, just poor software support that you cant even control the firmware updates

[final flame]

Damn the corsair virtuoso sucks so damn much

too lazy to setup eq apo but this is what I had to do to get it sounding fairly decent

[astral haven]

im shocked you could do anything to make it sound decent lol

[final flame]

I'm sure part of the reason why it sounds so bad is because it never properly seals because the pads are so shallow

if I did some fine tuning in eq apo I could probably make it sound better than any normal gaming headset

I'm also doing this all by ear

my focal clears should come tomorrow, fedex delayed my delivery so I can't wait to hear those

[crimson wigeon]

Hmm. Just heard about this https://learn.microsoft.com/en-gb/windows-hardware/design/component-guidelines/dynamic-lighting-devices
Proper cross-vendor RGB controls, at the OS level? Sure why not! Maybe Wooting could join in as well..

[old gulch]

this should help you out https://autoeq.app

No, not a download link

Rather online database of EQ profiles curated by people like Oratory1990

[final flame]

Auto eq is alright, it only just goes to harman

[old gulch]

crinacle etc

[old gulch]

Drop down menu my g

Dunno how much work they did on headsets though

[final flame]

Everything in that database is tuned to Harman target

[old gulch]

Really?

[final flame]

yes that's the whole point of it's existence

[old gulch]

._.

I found diffuse field too

That’s not Harman

[final flame]

The only measurement they have of the virtuoso is the rtings one

[old gulch]

Ah well tough luck

focal clear should have more :p

[astral haven]

lets you chose whatever target you want?

[old gulch]

On mobile for whatever reason I don’t see the drop down menu of available profiles

[final flame]

this is what I'm working with

[astral haven]

oh rip

want me to export something for you?

oh

hit show advanced

[old gulch]

Well at least it can meet the target

[old gulch]

@final flame

For some reason my beyerdynamic 700 pro x won’t ever ditch the high midrange dip

[final flame]

ok this sounds a lot better

[old gulch]

that treb would kill me tho

but ig typical beyers

[astral haven]

nah thats only 6db

ear gain is a thing

[old gulch]

I get whanging headaches if my treb (bear in mind I have a beyer) is boosted >3dB

i.e. 4Khz and up

warm tuning

[astral haven]

that sounds like externalities

[old gulch]

through EQMac adv eq yes

[final flame]

The soundstage is also really bad on the virtuoso too

nothing I can do to fix that

ok this seems to be about as good as I can get it

the autoeq had a little bit of honk

[old gulch]

I turned my beyer 700 pro x into a sort of HD800S through EQing to the AutoEQ harman 2018 target

no one lasts long in my CS:GO path no more

[final flame]

That's not how eq works, and also just so you know the 800s has tuning issues as well

[old gulch]

seemed to extend soundstage width a bit, does do that

I do know reducing some frequencies hurt soundstage

[final flame]

yea eqing by ear just works better imo

[old gulch]

complete 180

I EQ by ear sometimes as well

[final flame]

The issue with autoeq is it gives you a ton of major adjustments which can be very jarring

[old gulch]

if I have a particular playlist of music in mind, or I find time to not simply grind CS:GO

most people just copy and paste csv files no?

for AutoEQ

[final flame]

when it comes to manually eqing I use a frequency guide like on crinacles site or on squiglink

[old gulch]

my upper mids are trash, not bad but uneven

theres just this massive dip that no presets get rid of on autoeq

[molten wraith]

what did you end up doing about obs

[iron wave]

Looking glass, but it froze the VM after a while.

[molten wraith]

oh ok

[shadow minnow]

https://www.theverge.com/2023/6/7/23752164/apple-mac-gaming-game-porting-toolkit-windows-games-macos

Hmm looks like it may be great

[reef patrol]

Just need actual, dedicated GPUs now.

Or should I say - A return to that.

[shadow minnow]

Even without them though, the iGPUs are pretty good

[reef patrol]

On their most expensive CPUs? Yes.

You know... on hardware that costs thousands of dollars, with no way of improving performance past that initial purchase 😄

Apple has successfully turned their machines into gaming consoles, just without that quality control that Microsoft, Sony and Nintendo do to ensure a playable state 😄

[old gulch]

imagine a future where different OSes don't matter, its just how you configure a single file type

[iron wave]

You can't upgrade the memory or storage either.

[reef patrol]

Yeah... Having everything SOC is definitely a pro and con.

[shadow minnow]

Hmm I’d imagine at least with Mac Pro you hopefully can upgrade storage

Still should be possible with rest too

[reef patrol]

I think the Mx based one only has PCI-E and SATA? slots.

No RAM

[old gulch]

which is heavily reduced in maximum quantity, although perhaps for the "better"

Apple's always been "commited to the environment"

[reef patrol]

I don't follow.

[old gulch]

prev Mac Pro could do 1TB RAM

now its just 192GB

correction - 1.5TB

[reef patrol]

Sure. But if I have a Mac with 64GB and I find out that I need 128GB suddenly, I have to buy a whole new Mac.

How's that for environment.

[old gulch]

yea

old one was RAM upgradeable too

old talk but is nitro worth it?

I was gifted it 3 times but still don't see any useful functionality, besides extensive emoji use if you remember many

[reef patrol]

Do you want to have animated emoji? Be able to post high resolution game screenshots without opening paint every time? Then sure.

I mostly NEED it to be able to post long announcements and FAQ posts on the Discord. +2k and +4k posts are locked behind Nitro.

[old gulch]

so much for freedom of expression

[old gulch]

ikr comedy gold

[latent mural]

fixed height one i belive its aud thats why so expensive

yeah its particle board lol

yeah all that would be going on there for me is my 2 monitors and keyboard mouse maybe pc if i can find a b550 or x570itx motherboard that doesnt cost my left nut

[reef patrol]

Probably because it has to load in everything from HDD to RAM.

Instead of just doing it all on raw metal.

[ashen spindle]

and it restores everything open vs clean boot up

[cursive summit]

Lol

https://famiboards.com/threads/future-nintendo-hardware-technology-speculation-discussion-st-read-the-staff-posts-before-commenting.55/page-1171#post-698970

Next Nintendo console is 100% in active development

[pale sigil]

friend got his second SE

First thing he saw

[cursive summit]

This is the shittiest feature that exists

[shadow minnow]

It should appear on first login so people don’t get scammed, but not repeat

[cursive summit]

Locking away features is the worst part

[shadow minnow]

Yeah that is. Message itself is for once to notify user so if they thought they’re buying a new device or such, but locking away features is just anti consumer

[pale sigil]

Worst part is not allowing consumers to even use a new genuine battery

[reef patrol]

Or a new home button, or a new LCD, or a new sim slot, or a new anything.

[cursive summit]

Nah fam you need to go to an Apple partner and pay half of your phone costs worth

At that point just buy a new phone cause they release a new one yearly

Shittiest, stupidest, most anti-consumer design I have ever seen

Hence, why I heavily dislike Apple

[frozen ingot]

Apple "we care about the environment"

Also Apple:

iTs FoR pRoTeCtInG cUsToMeRs SeCuRiTy

[reef patrol]

You're not even wrong. I remember an intern (or was it me? It's been a while) slightly damaging the flex cable on the home button on an IP...7?8? Somewhere in that generation.

You couldn't put a new button on it, because of an update that blocked this due to serial mismatch. I had to take a bus and hand it over to an "Apple certified" workshop, that had the tools to re-serialized spare parts and it cost us half the price of a new phone.

We decided to just take the hit on insurance and give the customer a new phone instead, and jailbreak the damaged one for store calls.

[fair gull]

we actually just fixed broken flex cables by soldering

[severe phoenix]

https://www.reddit.com/r/buildapcsales/comments/143rjx0/ssd_m2_2_x_4tb_sn850x_pcie_gen4_ssd_free_64gb/

That a deal that is / was

[astral haven]

was
they updated it to only be for the 2tbs now lol

[pale sigil]

Battery being funky again

[cursive summit]

https://tenor.com/view/austin-powers-oh-behave-gif-20203955

[gusty kiln]

Apparently razer have rapid trigger now

[empty wren]

Link?

[gusty kiln]

https://www.techpowerup.com/309755/razer-introduces-rapid-trigger-mode-for-razer-analog-keyboards

Optical switches though

So it'll be like the flaretech wooting keyboards

[empty wren]

Weird that the article also mentions 0.1, I thought optical switches have a barrier to attainable distance or maybe whoever wrote the article is lazy and just copied it some of the words seem like wootings

[pale sigil]

Which everyone got for freeeeeeee

At wootup

[gusty kiln]

What's the granularity of the flaretech switches?

[gusty kiln]

Damn only 3 points

[empty wren]

Well not three

But range for analog would be from 1.5-3.6

[gusty kiln]

Oh what increment is what I meant

[astral haven]

its analog

https://global-uploads.webflow.com/61603672d19aa0d08107f39c/61dd8cc566e4c20f33eb90d7_flaretechillustration.jpeg

1.5 is when the light starts bouncing into the sensor
and 3.6 is when all the light is bouncing into the sensor

between there its just how sensitive your analog side is
a wooting person can tell us what they chose

[gusty kiln]

Yeah but software wise, what increment can it be set

[astral haven]

.1 afaik

[gusty kiln]

Ah ok

[astral haven]

but under the hood its more granular?

[gusty kiln]

Yeah

At least someone is catching up to wooting

But wooting is still the best in terms of capabilities

[astral haven]

100 analog values apparently

[gusty kiln]

Damn

[gusty kiln]

Theoretically 0.021mm increments

[ashen spindle]

I think in theory its up to 256 points it checks because it uses a byte for values but probably needs some smoothing or combinations so I dont think it's quite as many

[gusty kiln]

https://www.techpowerup.com/309787/seagate-hamr-32-tb-capacity-drives-arriving-later-this-year-40-tb-in-2024

[crimson wigeon]

MOAR

[pale sigil]

This bad or good

Not sure what photos was doing

[wheat plume]

https://youtu.be/Ve95Nh690l0

I love Dave

[pale sigil]

I mean tbf

You have 1000 more than me

I'm using max brightness a lot ATM

[wheat plume]

Same same

Outdoors using Google mapd

[pale sigil]

I haven't been able to test properly

But idk

Is 4hr screentime good? Lol

I hope Google update

But like I'm all in on this phone at this point

It's significantly better than before

[astral haven]

😦

[wheat plume]

IM SO HYPED FOR ANDROID 14

https://youtu.be/t4hSi5YJdzc

[true quest]

did they fix the notification center

[fair gull]

lana would be exited for any amdroid update even if it was a 1pixel change

[wheat plume]

What?

You get a new bubble around the battery icon when charging that goes away after a few seconds

[frozen ingot]

ios copypasta

[woven laurel]

what you guys dont use grapheneos because you dont own a pixel

[final flame]

Finally have it, Just as good as I remember, Very good at dynamics
I hope this is my endgame at least for headphones

had a little bit of channel imbalance but it's nothing major that can't be fixed with equalizer apo

[digital haven]

Focal is pretty nice, I only know them from car audio stuff though

[slender cove]

]

[molten wraith]

any dev here figure out how to escape characters in the new discord username text box

u cant enter @ sign with keyboard u have to copy and paste @@ into there for it to show up

you also cant press enter to make a newline but you can copy and paste empty space into there for newlines to be done

[reef patrol]

Of course you can type that?

[molten wraith]

you cant enter @ using the keyboard in the empty text field

[reef patrol]

Yes you can? Just like any other keyboard

[molten wraith]

no..

im talking about this one

[reef patrol]

And again our keyboards are no different than any other when it comes to typing in @

😅

[fair gull]

cant use @

[molten wraith]

it has weird interactions with the text field

[fair gull]

no it has normal interactions where paste usually ignored every normal restriction

id hwy you even want an @ in the name

[molten wraith]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/471859976290435080/1116585582408245330/chrome_EVPj0Icbkp.mp4

[fair gull]

it isnt an allowed character anyway so who cares ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[molten wraith]

its an escape character

so is like / and \ but those are not as weird

[fair gull]

ive never seen / as an escape character or @

while i have seen \, ^, ~, `

[molten wraith]

oh wait it doesnt function the same as it did earlier

hm

earlier when i had the name change popup the for the first time that specific text field was behaving weirdlywith it

i can type @ in the one thru the settings now that i set my username

anyways i wanted to have a fked up username out of principle which is why i was trying to escape characters

theres like a multi million dollar korean mmorpg company and they didn’t account for all the text inputs for pet names so you would end up having people with their pets named unicode characters everywhere

[fair gull]

you cant really win against the simplicity of how to check the name though... its literally 1 regex discord needs and it cant be escaped out of

you quite literally just do /^[a-z0-9-.]{0,32}$/m

idk how many chars the new names can be

but its way too easy to lock this down

unlike display names

[molten wraith]

yeah i get that but idk i felt like it was worth a try… https://github.com/TheTwitchy/rebuster i found this the other day which was interesting but it didnt seem like it would work that well for this

sometimes ppl mess up and u end up with goodies

[fair gull]

in your case though discord would fix it and just reset your username

[final flame]

I see no reason to do this unless you're trying to sell accounts, In which case that's against tos too

[fair gull]

that rebuster thing is also quite dumb... theres no actual regex checking of the "solution" (which wouldnt pass an actual regex as given) in their sample test file

love how it just returns smth from the functioning samples instead of an actually breaking mutation

[molten wraith]

🙃

[fair gull]

hilariously bad bruteforce code with even worse examples...

their example in the docs found the breaking mutation Mul 6 75 72 for supposedly breaking the regex ^mul [\d]* and the example code they use to test their results uses cmd line args instead of regex AND does a .lower() call on the first argument so idk what they tried to prove

[molten wraith]

its an 8 year old repo 😂

[fair gull]

this wouldnt have worked 8 years ago or now

its jsut some 12yr old who wanted to be a script kiddie

[molten wraith]

theres more interesting things in their gitlab

[fair gull]

oh boi

well i wont even start to comment on their gitlab i guess

[molten wraith]

definitely has ideas

[cursive summit]

Ah, preorders for Xperia 1 V are live https://www.sony.co.uk/store/product/xqdq54c0b.euk/Xperia-1-V-New-Exmor-T-for-mobile-sensor-and-4K-HDR-OLED-display

£1,299.00

XM5s though as a bundle, basically 30% of the cost is refunded if you sell them for market price

[molten wraith]

xm5s are so ass

tried them and their adaptive noise cancelling sucked hard

[cursive summit]

noise cancelling

Yeah I don't care at all about that

I just want to EQ the fuck out of them to neutral and have good sounding wireless headphones

[molten wraith]

thats their whole selling point

[cursive summit]

I'm not buying them

If I get one for free while getting a new phone, then happy days

Also last I heard, Sony still has the industry leading noise cancellation tech

[molten wraith]

nah bose outdoes them every other year

[cursive summit]

But regardless, I still don't care about that technology at all since my lifestyle has no use for it

[frozen ingot]

sony anc is very good yes

[molten wraith]

bose is OG noise cancelling

[frozen ingot]

bose is trash

[molten wraith]

nah

[frozen ingot]

overpriced

[molten wraith]

theyre even cheaper

[cursive summit]

I tried Boses once

[molten wraith]

for better noise cancelling

lmao

[cursive summit]

Sounded very mediocre for their asking price

[frozen ingot]

yeah bose is like beats

before there was beats

[molten wraith]

their earbuds are immaculate- the qc ii

[cursive summit]

Quite a strong word, immaculate

[frozen ingot]

the anc in linkbuds s is great, shuts out a ton of noise without feeling like your eardrums are getting bombarded with pressure

like some anc systems do

[cursive summit]

I hardly doubt they are "immaculate"

[molten wraith]

they blow airpods out the water

[cursive summit]

Again lads, sound quality matters the most

[molten wraith]

then buy sennheisers

[cursive summit]

My Melomanias sounded mediocre when I first got them

EQ'd them via their app and now they sound comparable to my hifi rig

[frozen ingot]

the linkbuds s are good in that regard as well

[cursive summit]

XM5s prolly are going to be incredible when EQd

[frozen ingot]

I've listened to a pair of XM3? I think it was

they sound awesome

[molten wraith]

https://www.rtings.com/headphones/reviews/best/by-feature/active-noise-cancelling bose top of the list for nc

[cursive summit]

You sure?

[molten wraith]

scroll down ?

[cursive summit]

All I see are sonies

[cursive summit]

And an odd anker

Uhh

Mate

That's not noise cancelling

That's raw sound quality

[molten wraith]

ok...

[frozen ingot]

bose getting 7+ in sound quality

[cursive summit]

Like, read?

[frozen ingot]

remind me to never trust rtings headphones tests again

[cursive summit]

They were never reliable to begin with anyways

[cursive summit]

Audio is subjective

[molten wraith]

is this better foru

[cursive summit]

That's fair enough

And still I couldn't care less

[molten wraith]

also its not like rtings does hyper specific noise tests...

[snow moon]

I have a pair of Beyerdynamic DT1990 pro and they're pretty okay

[molten wraith]

to where its scientifically accurate...

[cursive summit]

Fuckin beyer

[molten wraith]

• mathematically but u might not know what that word means

[snow moon]

I knew it

[cursive summit]

The company where you hate or love their headphones

Why must they be so weird man

[snow moon]

I EQ'd the fk out of them tho

The high end was crazy when I first got them

Had to pull a -14db or some shit

[molten wraith]

wow i wonder where these graphs came from...must be fake

[cursive summit]

What's this kid still rambling about

[molten wraith]

is std.err a made up word like whats that even mean lol

sony simps btfod 😂

[molten wraith]

t. russian genocide advocate

[cursive summit]

I like that title

[molten wraith]

keep it

[frozen ingot]

russia bad

[cursive summit]

Do you genuinely have any clue what you are looking at here?

Or are you looking at the green number and be like "this must be good"

[frozen ingot]

bass in spades and muddy everything else

sounds like bose alright

[molten wraith]

im looking at this comment blatantly ignorant of data is what im looking at

[cursive summit]

Yeah to me they look shit

What fuckin data

Do you have any clue how to interpret data?

[molten wraith]

the graphs u just mentioned lol

[cursive summit]

Or are you just looking at the score?

[snow moon]

-10

[cursive summit]

Jesus christ

That must be the spike

"Beyer" spike as it's more colloquially known

[snow moon]

Yeah it's crazy once you first get it

But after the EQ they're fken awesome

[cursive summit]

I just prefer neutral headphones out of the box

I hate running software in the background

[frozen ingot]

I thought my M50s had hyped high mids, that's something else right there

[snow moon]

I've had to no matter what - my goxlr mini requires it

And I'm too invested in the convenience to not have one. Also it has a fken Midas amp??

But yeah these headphones without EQ is a weird experience. You hear shit you never heard because the mid high has never been so loud

But it tires you out real fast

[cursive summit]

A lot of headphones are genuinely, technically, very adequate

Stock tuning is what makes them sound shite

But still technically competent headphones are 100$+ normally

And not the gaming kind

[snow moon]

Gaming headphones

I had a pair of Hifiman HE60xx or whatever they were called

They were actually really solid planars

Andthey were cheap at the time too, but then they realised how good people thought they were and increased the price

[mild dome]

May have said this before but it's weird that the hd800s also happen to be superb gaming headphones

[cursive summit]

gaming
1200$

Yeah how about.. no?