Like 4K ultrawide support and whatnot.
#🔌│tech
hasty thunder
i mean as long as Raytracing doesn't matter my 6800XT blows even a cheap 3090 out of the water
fading ore
Nvidia's linux drivers do not correctly report Vblank timings
hasty thunder
what's the point of 8 outputs if NV only allows 3 outputs simultaneously anyways?
fading ore
I'd probably just grab a 6800xt.
Currently running a Titan RTX with a P6000 for display output.
The RTX Titan is being swapped for 2x 4090s and the P6000 I want to swap for a 6800XT to have working vsync.
hasty thunder
may i give you a recommendation?
fading ore
sure
hasty thunder
surprisingly the whole package
works as a USB-C, Thunderbolt and DP connector
which shocked me when i got my card
cursive summit
Which is good enough for nearly everything
hasty thunder
FYI: the 4090 uses DP 1.4a too
cursive summit
Wtf kind of 8K will A380 even run?
crisp granite
Duke Nukem at 8k
cursive summit
4 1300$ monitors
1 130$ GPU
How about that makes no sense?
If it's stupid but it works... it's still stupid
turbid tiger
for some reason the issue seems to consistently occur when moving my mouse in a certain way
turbid tiger
what is the issue
random usb disconnects
pale sigil
What mobo are you using
turbid tiger
switching to pci 3
disabling usb ports
uninstalling amd usb controller
practically everything
turbid tiger
What mobo are you using
asus tuf b550 gaming plus
pale sigil
Ah well, if it helps i have usb issues even now
turbid tiger
disconnects every minutes to seconds for some seconds?
pale sigil
not as bad as that no
but it happens and i also cant really do anything that involves consistency
Eg flashing devices
turbid tiger
okay wait @golden girder I'm so fucking sure its related to my mouse cable
when I shake the mouse it happens
but on my brothers pc the mouse works fine??
pale sigil
no spare mouse?
ashen spindle
there might be some setting you need to activate like oc expert mode before it shows c states or so
turbid tiger
huh
turbid tiger
on the Asus website it said it should just be there
ashen spindle
if you search for "global" it also doesnt find the setting?
ashen spindle
coudl put on an older bios xd
hasty thunder
Asus removing a rather important function so people don't mess around with it?
ngl, that's just something only AssUs can come up with
woven laurel
hasty thunder
i thought NZXT's motherboards were absolutely awful in terms of restrictions, but that's just hilarious rn
ashen spindle
hanlon's razor
hasty thunder
well, tbf, AssUs deserves it
ashen spindle
I think it's much more likely someone just forgot to set the value correct to display that setting
happens often enough with any mono vendor
hasty thunder
given that Asus only has 3 BIOS devs at any time it's actually highly unlikely
ashen spindle
why would that be unlikely
hasty thunder
Asus germany used to be a customer of my previous company and they were extremely focused on every detail they ever did
ashen spindle
I'm not quite certain how that relates to one of 3 people in HQ in taiwan or wherever maybe making a wrong setting active or however that would happen
hasty thunder
every BIOS made by the Devs goes through QAs by higher ups. If those aren't happy with what they got for each boadd they simply won't release it.
Same goes for BIOS versions on Gigglebyte Boards
ashen spindle
none of that shows anything that would prevent human error from not enabling one feature that isn't the most obvious to look for
hasty thunder
a single BIOS revision goes through at least 20 people at Asus before getting a green light
someone surely would've noticed such a mistake
ashen spindle
¯_(ツ)_/¯ unless you are someone with first hand knowledge of how that process happens, it's easy that it could've been different for this or an issue was unnoticed still
all I'm saying is that sounds a lot more reaslistic than them disabling a feature on purpose like that to me
hasty thunder
well, i used to be a small Test OCer for Asus and Gigabyte before working full time at my next job. So yeah, i have first hand knowledge and experience of how they handled things 6 years ago before we got any new BIOS to play with
idk how things are now, but back then a single BIOS version was checked by at least 20 people before we got our hands on it
hasty thunder
given Asus' latest fuckery i wouldn't exclude that possibility
ashen spindle
yeah in 6 years they could've changed the process or maybe that bios was rushed because the older one had a critical issue etc. there are tons of cases that could happen
hasty thunder
however, come to think of it. They usually disabled the C state toggle on boards not meant for OCing
hasty thunder
https://www.newegg.com/team-32gb-288-pin-ddr4-sdram/p/N82E16820331595?Item=N82E1...
definitely some B-Die, yep
approved
Wonder why they didn't slap some B-Die tax on it tho
gusty kiln
this is also b-die but microcenter marked it down
maybe demand for high end ddr4 is slowly winding down
hasty thunder
this is also b-die but microcenter marked it down
uh... no, that's not Samsung B-Die for sure
gusty kiln
oh rip
hasty thunder
1.45V at these timings?
gusty kiln
didn't see 1.45 damn
hasty thunder
That's more like Hynix
or even worse... C-Die
10D
Samsung D-Die... I thought Samsung killed that production line off
uh... C states are definitely CPU settings, not some system settings
ashen spindle
yeah I dont think the pme options mentioned there are where c states are included
unless thats not what you meant and I'm blind?
hasty thunder
gusty kiln
definitely some B-Die, yep
ordered, might as well for only $99
that's basically how much all the shitter ram at bestbuy/microcenter costs
hasty thunder
Well, the C-States are supposed to be under CBS
Well, i switched from a 8700k to a 3600 and X570 to a 5800X at launch and later to a 5800X3D
didn't regret it
gusty kiln
lol 8700k to 3600 was a sidegrade
gusty kiln
downgrade when overclocking the 8700k
hasty thunder
final flame
brown PCB looks like shit too
hasty thunder
tbf, i bought the 3600, because it was a month before Zen 3 launched
so i didn't bother with buying something beefier
it was just supposed to run
gusty kiln
I want from 4460 to 3700X to 5800X3D
lethal merlin
ryzen 9 5900x owner here.. can say best cpu ever
hasty thunder
however, i went through 5 different RAM Kits before i ended up buying a Royal Elite Kit
the end result is satisfying tho
gusty kiln
lol, just get B-die everytime
hasty thunder
gusty kiln
at least ddr5 seems less picky on AM5
ah
so you can just step down if one is unstable
that's nice
like having multiple bios on a gpu
hasty thunder
lol, just get B-die everytime
Thing is that i first bought just 16 GB of RAM, then went through some 32 GB Kits and ended up with my current Kit, which somehow keeps its value extremely well. Even used Kits still sell for 450€ over here in germany
gusty kiln
jeez
this was at the height of AM4 right? cuz not even ebay sellers go that high anymore
hasty thunder
nope, even rn you can't find any Royal Elite Kit below 450€
be it germany or Europe in total
gusty kiln
oh I just meant B-die kits in general
lethal merlin
will u ever mount ur aio tubes on the bottom
hasty thunder
will u ever mount ur aio tubes on the bottom
lol are you insane? No
lethal merlin
why not
hasty thunder
hasty thunder
exactly
hasty thunder
bottom is not better, because the pump is usually right at the cold plate, which is mounted onto your CPU. Guess where the Air in your AiO goes
to the top of the ENTIRE loop
lethal merlin
i didn’t mean bottom radiator mount
i just meant having the tubes on the bottom
where the radiator is mounted to the front of the case as u have it already
which is better
coarse oxide
can anyone idenify if i am on a "beta" or insider build and updating to another? My pc keeps crashing so suddenly with greenscreen of death💀 i am already opted out too
hasty thunder
i just meant having the tubes on the bottom
doesn't work in my case. I have a Define 7, which is quite big
astral haven
It happens on some tiny cases
lethal merlin
doesn't work in my case. I have a Define 7, which is quite big
i see
i’m seeing if i can do it for mine but i’m not sure
either way it just doesn’t matter though
hasty thunder
actually wrong
astral haven
Yes I just did that on my tablet a few days ago and it's very annoying
coarse oxide
Unfortunate, I figured that was the case but ive tried to find the answer online but no avail, if thats the case ill just have to deal with it, a reinstall is too much right now
hasty thunder
you can get out of it changing a sys reg key
coarse oxide
you can get out of it changing a sys reg key
this ^ im not sure how, but i do remember i got w11 due to this by using something in cmd, it worked great, but i am still falsely in it
Sorry, falsely in insider build, not w11
hasty thunder
oh wait lel
Microsoft playing the dumb one saying you should restore it
my fault
astral haven
If you directly over install using a USB, it should keep a large portion of your programs installed, tho DRM stuff will need to be reinstalled (usually)
hasty thunder
Go to Settings > Update & Security > Windows Insider Program > Stop Insider Preview Builds to see your options
that's what i was talking about
final flame
maybe got lucky, we'll see if the tracking changes to fedex has the package tomorrow
gusty kiln
oooo
golden girder
okay wait <@426791162670481419> I'm so fucking sure its related to my mouse cabl...
I thought you tried different mouses? So have you used the same cable? A lose connection would only explain that the mmouse may drops out, but haven'T you also described that the entire system seems to hang?
turbid tiger
i tried a wireless mouse connected to the front port
no issue there
I'm gonna try 1. my wired mouse on front port and 2. the wireless mouse on back port
golden girder
So it looks indeed the mouse is the culprit. Hmm, I somehow thought you mentioned you were already able to rule out that the mouse can be the cause.
turbid tiger
I thought so as-well
golden girder
Maybe I got it wrong because you mentioned the mouse is fine on another system. 😅
Always try to cross check before ruling something out for sure.
turbid tiger
Because the mouse works completely fine on my brothers pc
I'll see if the problem occurs rn and if so put the mouse in the front port
golden girder
I had a few instances so far where I only was able to identify a problem because of cross checks. Even here, when handling the technical customer support.
cursive summit
Starfield controller might go live on June 11th for sale
About 80-89€
Typical controller prices
Apparently there's also a Starfield headset which I know nothing about https://www.1advd.ch/games/Game+X%252DBox+Series+X/XBOX+Headset+%252D+Wireless+Orginal+%252D+Starfield+%252D+Li/38625174
fair gull
not even a controller pic
just that because of its size it counts as 3 articles when shipping
old marlin
not even a controller pic
fair gull
how does the rainbow at the top relate
reef patrol
how does the rainbow at the top relate
Part of the insignia&logo
fair gull
hm
i can see how fans might like it
would have prob prefered it to be an elite controller rather than the default ones
ashen spindle
Hope the hardware is not as buggy as the games they make
reef patrol
Are these click on or molded?
fair gull
the sticks?
reef patrol
Seems like a missed opportunity not to do shell swaps.
fair gull
oh the shells... they are moulded and screwed together
reef patrol
Boo. Shame. 😄
reef patrol
I haven't had an Xbox since the 360. And it had the faceplate swaps... well on the non-elite version at least 😄
fair gull
the 360 controllers didnt have faceplates
reef patrol
That's true - The controller above looks like it was swappable though.
fair gull
oh ya no
its why id hoped for a limited edition to be the elite controller 2 in this case
cause then youd at least get adjustable trigger stops, adjustable sticks, swappable sticks, swappable dpad and paddles for extra buttons
this will basically just release on aliexpress as shell only at some point so you can make any series s/x a limited edition one
old marlin
works better for some games
cursive summit
I still 100% believe Bethesda has the best collector's editions
old marlin
is that sarcasm
cursive summit
I think Skyrim was their first one, and god it was holy
FO4 Collector's, power armor helmet (with a chance of mold), pip boy (for smartphones)
Really cool edition
Starfield's edition I think is extremely exciting, cause the thing they give actually works in correlation to gameplay
old marlin
I think Skyrim was their first one, and god it was holy
looks like the average collectors edition - some random crap that costs less than 20 cents to produce total
aka stickers, random pins etc
cursive summit
looks like the average collectors edition - some random crap that costs less tha...
Lol no
reef patrol
Yeah lets ignore the book and resin figure 😄
cursive summit
You clearly have never seen that edition up close
That statue is insanely highly detailed
Japanese sell those like 50$ each at least
And they aren't small
old marlin
that is cool ig
aka
collectors edition done right
and not some figure that would retail for 15-25 bucks
- a ton of crap nobody wants
cursive summit
That's why I'm saying that Bethesda has always done their collector's right
old marlin
yea I wasn't sure because fo4 and fo76
cursive summit
I'm waiting for the Starfield one to go on preorder
old marlin
because those were bad
fair gull
Japanese sell those like 50$ each at least
so cheaper than 99% of anime figurines
cursive summit
yea I wasn't sure because fo4 and fo76
FO4 had good shit but the quality was a bit weird
The mold thing was like, what
And let's ignore FO76 alright? 
That wasn't the best time for them
reef patrol
Quality was also garbage and downright legally a scam compared to advertised material.
latent mural
the fo4 pipboy was really shit too
fair gull
well we cant just selectively ignore and call their collectors editions great then
latent mural
source: i had one
old marlin
Quality was also garbage and downright legally a scam compared to advertised mat...
the fallout whiscky (iirc?) be like
fair gull
you either consider all their collectors editions or none
fair gull
the fallout whiscky (iirc?) be like
the cola....
old marlin
well we cant just selectively ignore and call their collectors editions great th...
I mean have they made a good one outside skyrim?
fair gull
the starfield one is the only one looking promising currently
but who knows what they fuck up with the watch
old marlin
the cola....
ah, it was rum
fair gull
ya the rum and cola they just fucked
old marlin
nuca cola dark
cursive summit
but who knows what they fuck up with the watch
Can you really fuck up a watch?
old marlin
yes
old marlin
crap battery life
cursive summit
its from the wand company
That's good or bad?
fair gull
depends
the make a lot of video game items
but some suck some dont
im mainly worried due to the nature of the watch being fully digital
most their digital products are... some leds and sound
not full on watch
cursive summit
I have seen this manual before, I never really read through it
"Temperature measurement is very sensitive, showing changes as small as 0.01 Celsius, but it’s measuring the temperature inside the watch body (which is affected by the temperature of the display backlight, the battery and the electronics) so the measurements have a significant offset from the ambient air temperature or the user’s wrist temperature."
That sounds like.. weird design?
fair gull
it is
cursive summit
I've never seen a sensor as sensitive as to two digits
fair gull
I've never seen a sensor as sensitive as to two digits
i wouldnt trust that
old marlin
I've never seen a sensor as sensitive as to two digits
"showing changes" and those changes being accurate are 2 things
fair gull
but ya im just mainly concerned about the massive departure from what the wand company usually makes
this is basically like wooting going from keyboard to full on pc hardware and custom cpus
old marlin
yea only other collectors edition game watch I can think of is the division watch
which was VERY simple
and also made by a company that doesn't really do electronics
ashen spindle
fair gull
im hoping it turns out nice cause id really love it to be nice as it would be cool
but
not trying to get my hopes up too much
cursive summit
Again I've seen plenty of thermometers, never seen one that measures in the second period
Usually just XY.Z
fair gull
the manuals arent final
cursive summit
Adding another number in the decimal is new
fair gull
they are draft manuals iirc
old marlin
Again I've seen plenty of thermometers, never seen one that measures in the seco...
thermometers don't give a digital output
they can just ignore that the last digit is wildy inaccurate
and fluctuates a ton
fair gull
ofc i sure hope its not a palstic watch
didnt they also promise some weather forecasting
sure hope its not US only
cursive summit
didnt they also promise some weather forecasting
It seems to connect to smartphones via bluetooth
Prolly where it gets all that info from
ashen spindle
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/807441919588302858/1115268425086939257/Fx3JE1iXsAEcavx.png man these things are getting even more complex to understand lol let’s hope it also translates into actual products unlike 10nm
hasty thunder
https://twitter.com/anandtech/status/1665706527884181504?t=BOH92NgoZR3M90woRn5JL...
definitely going to be a long while process for Intel to figure that shit out
fair gull
Prolly where it gets all that info from
then we hope it doesnt need a special app
ashen spindle
I mean, allegedly it’s on track for next year
hasty thunder
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/807441919588302858/1115268425086939257/...
you mean 14nm+++³²^²
cursive summit
i don't understand the issue with RARBG
When Disney or Netflix doesn't allow you to watch movies outside of certain regions + do stupid shit like that whole password debacle
I don't see the issue either 
old marlin
When Disney or Netflix doesn't allow you to watch movies outside of certain regi...
wdym, I sure love either having content not available at all or at fucking joyn
in 720i
fair gull
i don't understand the issue with RARBG
just piracy stuff and vex is very much pro pirating anything and everything
cursive summit
just piracy stuff and vex is very much pro pirating anything and everything
I believe in free trials
fair gull
thats 2 different concepts
fair gull
go to blockbusters
cursive summit
If it passed and it's not a show that aired on netflix, it's probably gone
You think that exists in most countries that isn't UK or US?
hasty thunder
tbf, pirating a Software i.e. is fine to me as long as the user buys the software legitimately at the end
fair gull
You think that exists in most countries that isn't UK or US?
it only exists in 1 location as far as i know
hasty thunder
remember, we used to have demo discs back then before a game launched
cursive summit
it only exists in 1 location as far as i know
U.S and UK have video rental places
I have never seen or heard of such a thing in my country
hasty thunder
I have never seen or heard of such a thing in my country
uh?
where exactly are you from, @cursive summit ?
hasty thunder
so pretty much somewhere in the east, huh?
cursive summit
Did I stutter?
old marlin
but afaik germany had a DvD rental service too
I think the one in my hometown is still operating
was part of a smaller chain
hasty thunder
not as popular as blockbuster in the states, but we had something
old marlin
I think the one in my hometown is still operating
never was in it though
old marlin
sure thing, you definitely were at the 18+ area of it
there was a brothel in the building
right above it
hasty thunder
old marlin
which is why the whole shop was 18+
hasty thunder
that's not exactly what i intended to steer the conversation into and we definitely should cut it right here, but good to know
frozen ingot
I have never seen or heard of such a thing in my country
what kind of third world toilet did you grow up in
video rental stores where plentiful here up until like the late 00s
old marlin
what kind of third world toilet did you grow up in
in what kind of third world toilet did you grow up in to be so toxic
they just were not as popular everywhere
hasty thunder
in what kind of third world toilet did you grow up in to be so toxic
stop reading my mind
frozen ingot
in what kind of third world toilet did you grow up in to be so toxic
its vex, I'm just using lingo he can understand
old marlin
just like doge?
hasty thunder
and that was just 3 examples today
just let him be, they know when to strike the hammer
frozen ingot
well the mods here typically understand humor so I think am good
ashen spindle
it starts to not be humour if the joke consistently is just being an ass about something is the thing
frozen ingot
and I'm sure they'd point it out when that starts being the case
if someone was offended by my stupid jokes then my bad, that wasn't the intent
but that's all it was, jokes
hasty thunder
well, you should approach it from a different perspective. Can't be taken serious if YOU ARE the joke
frozen ingot
anyways I should go get some coffee, maybe that'll rid me of my supposed toxicity
fading ore
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/807441919588302858/1115268425086939257/...
Intel 7 (10nm) had products, the 13th generation cpus were mostly made on it and they were the fastest desktop cpus available on launch
Intel 4 is a slight revision of the intel 7 node, another 10nm node with about 8% smaller pitch/gates.
ashen spindle
The original 10nm had nothing but cannon lake lmao
They even revised node names so that node is technically 10nm- because the first follow up is now 10nm in their names xD
fading ore
They have 3 10nm nodes in manufacturing. Intel 10nm Tri gate, Intel 7, and Intel 4.
hasty thunder
uh... the original 10nm they had in plan actually had such a low yielding rate that they decided to abandon it at first
but ok
ashen spindle
They had like two laptop chips on it that shipped to fulfill shareholder promises
fading ore
If the bring intel 4 with their listed specs to current CPUs it would only have minor impacts on performance & power.
The main benefit is the FSP increasing yield rates which might reduce the cost a bit (compared to Intel 7).
ashen spindle
I think 4 is an internal one like 20A which is meant as mostly a test node and then 3 and 18A respectively are supposed to be for proper products and other customers with the features that worked on the previous node or without them if it fails to not repeat the og 10nm issues
ashen spindle
That’s 14 still
old marlin
Wait wasn't whiskey lake like one 10nm cpu
ashen spindle
No that’s cannon lake
old marlin
Ah
fading ore
Intel 4's current target is in Meteorlake SoCs where they claimed they would have lower performance compared to existing Intel 7 chips in their talk at Hotchips due to the latency penalty from the chiplet design.
ashen spindle
Yeah afaik the current status is that MTL-S is canned so would be laptop chips only anyway
fading ore
What's a lot more interesting is their new copper alloys they've developed for reducing net resistance.
It seems to yield much more stable compute backends than the cobalt they were using in Intel7.
They seem to have a decent performance gain on the node itself. Although they seem to have no plans for fabricating monolithic dies with Intel 4 so I'm not sure if we'll see a chip outperforming the 13th gen desktop CPUs any time soon.
ashen spindle
Well monolithic design or not isn’t the reason it won’t beat the current gen
It may lead to issues that aren’t fixed on this node/gen that prevents it
fading ore
It's also interesting they report power/perf improvements at 0.65V.
pale sigil
@shadow minnow apple event today
shadow minnow
I forgor
astral haven
1 hour till event and apple stock has hit it's all time high
Will they hit 3 trillion today?
twin nimbus
i wonder if they are gonna introduce the new iphones today...
ashen spindle
vr headset time
twin nimbus
usually they do it in september or something
ashen spindle
how were the previous WWDCs, did they actually change stock much even when its not a quarterly revenue meeting?
gritty scaffold
hello
gusty kiln
maybe people are irrationally thinking some AI announcement piggy pbacking off of nvidia
gritty scaffold
question, how are you managing to make advertisement for wooting pls ? it's for a school project
like, are you doing sponsorship ?
ashen spindle
send them an email and they will likely answer you as best as they can
gritty scaffold
send them an email and they will likely answer you as best as they can
me ?
ashen spindle
yes
gritty scaffold
i feel like i would bother them if it's not a tech or order problem
ashen spindle
no, it will take a while because they are getting a lot of emails but that would be the best way to get it to someone who can answer you
cursive summit
question, how are you managing to make advertisement for wooting pls ? it's for ...
Wooting doesn't really advertise lol
gusty kiln
they definitely have a PR person
cursive summit
If a pro needs keyboards, they will sort them out, usually
gritty scaffold
Wooting doesn't really advertise lol
that's what i thought
cursive summit
You will not see a wooting ad anywhere
Wooting kinda keeps itself relevant with sheer tech alone
People just give free PR for them with reviews and good word
And that's more than enough to drive sales for a small company
gritty scaffold
it's like a talk for itself value
astral haven
You will not see a wooting ad anywhere
I've seen plenty myself
cursive summit
Wooting ads?
astral haven
Yup
astral haven
On youtube
gritty scaffold
no, it will take a while because they are getting a lot of emails but that would...
my powerpoint presentation is this thirdsay
cursive summit
You mean reviews?
gritty scaffold
On youtube
yea, it's free advertising
people are doing review because ppl are curious about the tech
but it's basically for free
astral haven
You mean reviews? <:dogekek:1103031921409265776>
If the product is sent for free, the product itself is the ad
cursive summit
Via AdSense or Facebook ads
Must be my adblocker
ashen spindle
my powerpoint presentation is this thirdsay
if you are lucky @reef patrol is around and can forward it to sanders or something 🙂
pale sigil
But the Marjory is streamers and influencers
gritty scaffold
Via AdSense or Facebook ads
never seen one 
gritty scaffold
if you are lucky <@158168189300244480> is around and can forward it to sanders o...
anders is always here for us i knowo it
ashen spindle
its not much currently because they is no point doind ads while you are unable to make enough to keep stock around, so the ads are mostlyt on pause
but they do/did do them
gritty scaffold
its not much currently because they is no point doind ads while you are unable t...
truee
they should go to shark tanks
pale sigil
Lol no
gritty scaffold
and ask for a 1.5millions for 1%
pale sigil
XD 1.5m wouldn't be worth it at this point
And they wouldn't sell (which has been a thing)
gritty scaffold
idk i just threw random numbers lmao
how much is the valuation of this company tho
gritty scaffold
maaan
astral haven
And the point of going with the shark tank is to get more value than the money, if you are only in it for the money, there are better options
gritty scaffold
i already ordered one 60he and one uwu keyboard even tho i'm not playing osu
i should own 5% of the company now
astral haven
Lol
gusty kiln
I wonder what percentage linus owns framework with his 250K
gritty scaffold
And the point of going with the shark tank is to get more value than the money, ...
you ask for money to open more factories and rise your location of sales
you can also open shops
astral haven
Wrong
pale sigil
I wonder what percentage linus owns framework with his 250K
Not much
astral haven
You go on shark tank to get industry contacts and access to experts to help your business
astral haven
Not much
Well it's probably just under the amount needed to report on taxes
Which means it's between 1 and 5%
pale sigil
Mhmm
astral haven
And those are relatively large percentages for 2 people to own
pale sigil
Two people?
pale sigil
Also I thought it was 225k
gusty kiln
all I remeber was a "quarter mil"
pale sigil
I thought they bought as a single entity
gusty kiln
isn't she like the cfo
astral haven
Sure but they are 2 people
pale sigil
Still a single entity
astral haven
And I'm not disputing that, however it is 2 people
gusty kiln
kek
pale sigil
But pricy
astral haven
Still a single entity
Stock brokers and the like also own shares of companies, but their votes are distributed amongst tens of thousands of people
gusty kiln
team group seems to be off-loading their B-dies
astral haven
Framework Is love, framework Is life.
I still await touchscreen
astral haven
And I'm really disappointed in AMD tho
gusty kiln
I actually don't need the hourse power of a 16"
gusty kiln
damn
gusty kiln
then again most people won't go with 4 TB on a 13.5, maybe a 16
astral haven
But the problem is you can't use one of the expansion slots for video at all
astral haven
And it means you have to be alot more tactical with expansion
astral haven
You mean dp over usbc
Yep
Only 3 of the 4 ports support dp over USB
2 of them are usb4
gritty scaffold
if you had to guess a percentage of pro players using wooting keyboard
how much would you give
please it's for my presentation
gusty kiln
Less than 5 probably
gusty kiln
Not many have the time to adjust to the switch
gritty scaffold
anyone else ?
gritty scaffold
Not many have the time to adjust to the switch
oh that's a strong argument
astral haven
The percentage is probably zero
gritty scaffold
The percentage is probably zero
chill strop trolling
astral haven
The number of people is probably near 5 out of thousands
gritty scaffold
my life depend on that presentation
gusty kiln
There's definitely 1 csgo player with the wooting
ashen spindle
its not a troll
if you properly account for all pro players
thats a lot and not a lot that use a wooting
gusty kiln
So it's a non-zero amount
astral haven
Most of the pro players aren't the star pros
gritty scaffold
The number of people is probably near 5 out of thousands
that's 0.5 then
astral haven
Sure but .2% is near zero
gritty scaffold
i always round up the value
astral haven
That's a math mistake lol
gusty kiln
For a school presentation, sure
But not at a job
Zywoo is the only high level csgo pro using the wooting atm
Tenz from valorant also have one
astral haven
Yeah and if you go further than Csgo alone there are 10s to 100s of thousands of pro gamers
They just don't make much money because they aren't stars...
gusty kiln
And I've watched a few apex players trying it out
I guess it depends on his definition of pro for his presentation
Anyone earning money or someone signed to an organization
gritty scaffold
That's a math mistake lol
1% would always be more accurate than 0
gusty kiln
Just say non-zero amount
gritty scaffold
I guess it depends on his definition of pro for his presentation
i would say someone paid to play video games
sponsorded and stuff
gusty kiln
bunch of streaming hop on the wooting band-wagon
gritty scaffold
let's guess in the true gamer community how much there are
astral haven
1% would always be more accurate than 0
So say you have 1k options each having .1%
If you round them up to 1% you have 10x more users than exist
astral haven
let's guess in the true gamer community how much there are
You can probably just assume that all wooting sales are within the gaming community
Wooting doesn't support chording so you can somewhat assume that they don't have a presence in the hyperspeed typing community
gritty scaffold
So say you have 1k options each having .1%
If you round them up to 1% you have 1...
i don't.. understand
gusty kiln
@astral haven are you going to get a 13.5 or 16 framework?
gritty scaffold
i'm not good in maths
but i guess you cannot neglect the part that accepted to buy the product
astral haven
<@126850798666645504> are you going to get a 13.5 or 16 framework?
Not unless my current lappy dies
gusty kiln
what are you currently using?
gritty scaffold
it's better to be wrong by too much than not be aware of it exissting
it's like medicine
astral haven
what are you currently using?
Well technically I'm just using my phone and dex
gritty scaffold
you prefer to prevent more than to be careless
astral haven
But my laptop is an 1065g7 hp 13 inch 2 in 1
gusty kiln
From a statistics stand point, that's a bad way to go
astral haven
it's like medicine
In medicine they say "trace amounts of "
gusty kiln
But my laptop is an 1065g7 hp 13 inch 2 in 1
Hmmm, I bought a 17 incher, but after buying the nreal. I want to down size
astral haven
I have my socket 1151 laptop still
The CPU is currently in my server but I can put it back if I need a chonker
astral haven
Bought it with a 8700k and upgraded to that yep
gusty kiln
That was the first KS cpu basically
astral haven
Except it used less power and was cooler
gusty kiln
Kek
astral haven
It was actual insanity tier bin
gusty kiln
I guess they would for the anniversary
Wonder if it has hit collectors value yet
Though it's still plenty for a gaming pc
astral haven
To my eyes it's kept going down in price unless it's boxed ofc
Yes it was over 200 tho that was a few months back and now it's under
astral haven
I have a very dusty 9900k D12 in the corner of my room lol
astral haven
Yep because they are mostly tray, but here's an example of tr pro pro
https://youtu.be/cVHcNsbGPaw
astral haven
I've got a tr 1k myself
ashen spindle
I really wonder if we see anything major at the apple event aside from the vr headset, or if that is a major focus and how well they will sell it to the people
astral haven
iOS 17 beta announcement
gusty kiln
I've got a tr 1k myself
nice
ashen spindle
oh yeah iOS is a big thing I guess
gusty kiln
which 3090 do you have? collectors item one day
astral haven
Kingpin!
gusty kiln
oh damn
it's going to be a pain choosing an AIB when I upgrade to RTX 5000 if I go nvidia
astral haven
The cooler is empty because I got a custom waterblock for it
gusty kiln
lol
sapphire at least have Althon Micro for RMA and most people in the US have a good experience
but no one on nvidia side right now have anything close
gusty kiln
who do they use for RMA/CS?
astral haven
Themselves afaik?
gusty kiln
oh really? interesting
astral haven
Really dunno tho
astral haven
🤷 the connector isn't the problem, the circuitry behind it is
gusty kiln
well I hope they update it
astral haven
Remember the 3090ti drawing double the power on the same connector and having zero issues?
gusty kiln
whats the difference between 12pin and 12+4 pin?
cuz 3090 founders doesn't have the extra 4 pin on top
astral haven
The +4 are purely for data
ashen spindle
the biggest flaw of 12vhpwr is the tolrances being so that it's easier to misalign it and have it not be seated in place
gusty kiln
oh
astral haven
the biggest flaw of 12vhpwr is the tolrances being so that it's easier to misali...
But that wouldn't be a problem if Nvidia kept the power rail load balancing within the connector
ashen spindle
yes, its one flaw that exposes another flaw and together they cause issues
it is user issue but in a sense that that user issue should never be able to cause these issues because saftey margins should exist
astral haven
Yep
ashen spindle
which is nice but still doesnt fix it if you cant see it if you pull on it after a while or something happens that pulls on it etc.
ashen spindle
oh for fucks sake
gusty kiln
?
ashen spindle
gusty kiln
ashen spindle
thank god I never installed that
gusty kiln
lol thank god I'm currently an asorck fanboy
cursive summit
Is Apple's M3 going to be underwhelming?
ashen spindle
N3 is underwhelming so most likely
gusty kiln
still 999 for the base model
pale sigil
pale sigil
still 999 for the base model
Should be 899
ashen spindle
yup, m2 ultra still N5
pale sigil
And it was shit
astral haven
And it's not 12x faster at anything besides hard GPU tasks lok
cursive summit
And it's not 12x faster at anything besides hard GPU tasks lok
We are 12x faster than a shit iGPU
- Apple
Sounds about right
ashen spindle
apple slides showing only useless data in fancy colors is nothing new for years now though
astral haven
But their m# bragging is the worst it's ever been
cursive summit
1080p camera is a selling point as well nowadays?
Or MagSafe?
Aren't those like industry standard options rn
astral haven
Previous air didn't have magsafe
gusty kiln
apple silicon really lost it's initial hype pretty bad
cursive summit
apple silicon really lost it's initial hype pretty bad
I mean, it was really good
Back in like 2021
ashen spindle
how the fuck are they making it sounds like adding PCIe lanes is something special
cursive summit
Efficiency is still staggeringly good though
ashen spindle
they sound like a salty ex talking about their previous intel versions
cursive summit
And I like that it manages somehow to cool passively
astral haven
Efficiency is still staggeringly good though
Battery life not efficiency
If you do less with less power it's just more battery life not better efficiency
cursive summit
Yay apple finally allow pcie 🤣🤣🤣
So they adopted USB4?
That's... new
Last I heard USB4 has PCIe access by design
astral haven
Did they remove the GPU ban?
astral haven
Yay apple finally allow pcie 🤣🤣🤣
Because you did have pcie access for stuff like audio processors on the original M1 devices
cursive summit
Is M2 Ultra a new chip or old?
shadow minnow
It’s new
cursive summit
Do they still have the Max/Ultra branding?
shadow minnow
But like based on old stuff
shadow minnow
Do they still have the Max/Ultra branding?
Yes
cursive summit
So which one is better, Ultra or Max?
shadow minnow
I am curious what all pcie devices will actually be supported ngl
pale sigil
Oh look, apple re-invented something that was done in 2010
shadow minnow
So which one is better, Ultra or Max? <:dogekek:1103031921409265776>
Ultra
pale sigil
So which one is better, Ultra or Max? <:dogekek:1103031921409265776>
I still get confused by this
Lmao.... Google re-invented screen call
🤣
ashen spindle
max is the max because ultra is two chips put togeether
cursive summit
Apple always had a hard time with marketing
ashen spindle
but as a single chip max is the max spec
cursive summit
At least with naming conventions
pale sigil
Screen call is nice tho
@shadow minnow apple are re-inventing things sooner than usual
fossil orchid
Apple always had a hard time with marketing
❓
pale sigil
I wish android phones had good face Id tech
astral haven
i wish iphones had fingerprint sensors
pale sigil
Haha
astral haven
power button fingerprint sensors will work for 99% of people
pale sigil
Ye, I missed that when I owned a 2022 pro for 48 hours 🤣
I kept trying to use a fingerprint that didn't exist
pale sigil
Whenever I was using the iPad Pro
Sorry
I kept pressing the bottom
Because of muscle memory
astral haven
ah
pale sigil
It felt uncomfortable
Another thing that confused me was the volume buttons change based on rotation
empty pasture
I wonder if we will get the scann out fix for the wooting60he/ turnning off half the keyboard or turning off keys we dont need/ use ingame
pale sigil
I wonder if we will get the scann out fix for the wooting60he/ turnning off half...
I remember you, I guess you were a dedicated fan lol
empty pasture
@pale sigil im a low latency freak and I loved Wooting products
astral haven
the 60he has as many keys as a single zone of the wooting 2he basically
pale sigil
Small update on my phone
ashen spindle
ohh that thing, yeah that's not something that would do anything for the 60he really
empty pasture
I had to mod the magnets default position to get 0 pretravel which made movement with the new Lekker springs
pale sigil
I used 1% in 5 hours
empty pasture
had to cut out the magnets and reposition it further out
astral haven
but yea on my 2he it shows the scan time of the tachyon mode under it
empty pasture
@naive dragon but we can have 0.5mm scan
astral haven
astral haven
<@110631494057209856> but we can have 0.5mm scan
but how would that help anything?
the usb chip already cant go faster than 1ms
astral haven
carmon
you are pinging a random person
ashen spindle
oh god
astral haven
and no usbc is not faster inherently
astral haven
the wooting has a usb chip that supports 1khz
empty pasture
have you tryed usb-c to usb-c gen2x2
astral haven
yep
ive tried thunderbolt
empty pasture
thunderbolt cable didnt work that great for me
astral haven
(and that doesnt work)
but ive tried usb4 40g and that does
and its still the same chip on the other end that has a max of 1khz
astral haven
oh god this will be awful
pale sigil
empty pasture
empty pasture
im using this 40gb with my wootinghe60 and its been the fastest one yet
astral haven
im using this
you can think of it like a tube
the cable is capable of 20gbps meaning the tube is gigantic and capable of allowing 20k mb of data to flow per second
but the chips on either end are what actually make the communication happen
and the chip on the wooting is only capable of whatever it is capable of
pale sigil
Apple at it again
astral haven
and as of right now thats 1khz usb polling
pale sigil
Making iPads the best
astral haven
🤷 unless you need to do work on them
surface had an equally rough start, but ever since gen 4 of surface, they have been pretty crazy
empty pasture
@astral haven I wonder if it would need more ARM to rech succh low /faster thruput
astral haven
it also needs a faster os setup
afaik as of right now only linux is happy with over 1khz
and even then its a bit fragmented
empty pasture
so waht your saying is WOOTING OS needs to be made
astral haven
that is absolutely not at all what im saying
astral haven
interesting new macos
shame i cant use it
shadow minnow
Will apple announce AR glasses?
astral haven
sounds to me like apple reinventing the wheel
https://www.techpowerup.com/309636/with-powervia-intel-achieves-a-chipmaking-breakthrough
also actual invention right here
turbid tiger
Did apple invent the star menu
star menu?
pale sigil
*start
ashen spindle
https://www.techpowerup.com/309636/with-powervia-intel-achieves-a-chipmaking-bre...
ye linked the anandtech article for that earlier, very cool to see its on track for once
astral haven
lmao
https://www.techpowerup.com/309628/yuan-high-tech-unveils-8k60-video-capture-devices-with-hdmi-2-1-for-consumers
Im also real interested in this stuff
whats improved?
shadow minnow
Kohima?
pale sigil
Lmao
shadow minnow
Kojima
misty saffron
I would love to see the benchmarks tbh
shadow minnow
Same
astral haven
well its not that much cash money more
still expensive tho
shadow minnow
Curious
astral haven
ye ive been watching along via anandtech
astral haven
will they add webgpu?
misty saffron
webgpu is already supported I thought?
astral haven
webgpu is already supported I thought?
in experimental
removing url trackers would be real cool
misty saffron
ah
astral haven
wow they added browser profiles how many years late?
rough osprey
chrome got profiles?
gusty kiln
yeah
misty saffron
oh cool a step towards not having 100 chromium binaries on the disk
pale sigil
astral haven
chrome got profiles?
https://web.archive.org/web/20140331113948/https://support.google.com/chrome/answer/2364824
having trouble finding an english archive, but heres one in korean back in 2014
astral haven
yea i use it alot
at work i have multiple emails of my own, and i also have multiple personal emails for different uses
rough osprey
yo they stole galaxy buds Feature
astral haven
seems better than the sony version of the feature tho so thats nice
pale sigil
At this point I don't think we are getting iPad news
astral haven
we already got it
ashen spindle
didnt we already get it
rough osprey
you need a new one already?
ashen spindle
yeah
rough osprey
next keynote maybe
astral haven
🤷 that comes after the iphones
shadow minnow
It’s wwdc so no
pale sigil
There were rumours of a new bigger iPad
ashen spindle
idk if we get a new one before M3
shadow minnow
^
ashen spindle
so not this year I'd guess
rough osprey
surely many hotels will use this
rough osprey
i need airplay in Airbnb's
shadow minnow
That would be cool ngl
rough osprey
i mean just have a guest mode on apple tv
shadow minnow
There are somethings apples really annoying at, but some they do really well. Especially these presentations
rough osprey
i love the camera on my tv
ashen spindle
man can they just be done with teh boring stuff lol
astral haven
There are somethings apples really annoying at, but some they do really well. Es...
these presentations are awful lmao
rough osprey
lol
pale sigil
Sadly not
ashen spindle
these presentations are dog poo lol
rough osprey
these presentations are awful lmao
huh what brand is better at these
ashen spindle
only have it open bc I want to see XR
rough osprey
wth is that
astral haven
sony xperia and sony alpha both are fast despite playstation being slow
rough osprey
ah fall guys
shadow minnow
these presentations are awful lmao
Idk, most people doing video production and such i know find them quite great, all the transitions and such you often get
ashen spindle
they are presentations if you have basically no clue about anything, aka not what anyone in this channel belongs to
astral haven
sony playstation conferences
rough osprey
they look great
astral haven
Idk, most people doing video production and such i know find them quite great, a...
yea they are pretty
but they are useless as conferences
rough osprey
and ye showcase the new features
astral haven
basically everything apple if you are trying to complete a task
ashen spindle
they put 20 specs in colors around the product and its 0 actual information
shadow minnow
Oh yeah, wwdc is definitely not good at being a conference
crisp granite
Back to you steve
thanks steve
pale sigil
Their Dev conferences seem to be better
astral haven
but this is wwdc...
ashen spindle
like this info is nice but it's useless aside from like 3 spec points lol
the entire left side has no value
astral haven
now thats pretty impressive from a filmmaking perspective
if it were live lmao
pale sigil
I really wish I could have an apple watch
rough osprey
only apple product that really needs a redesign
astral haven
the entire left side has no value
well no
the gpu is bigger than last gen
and the neural engine still gets smoked by a smartphone chip
the microscopic memory support is also useful to know as is the downgrade in pcie slot count
ashen spindle
I said left side, pcie is ont he right
pale sigil
It is nice
ashen spindle
and I think TOPS is a useless metric for neural engines to compare without extra info
astral haven
I said left side, pcie is ont he right
well yea but i mentioned the left side as well (in case you got the sides mixed up)
also wifi 6e is a change
rough osprey
no wifi 7?
astral haven
and I think TOPS is a useless metric for neural engines to compare without extra...
sure but you wanna show off the biggest number possible, and if you cant hit a pop in 200w you aint competitive with sota
astral haven
no wifi 7?
wifi 7 doesnt exist yet
ashen spindle
yes I'm saying its nice for marketing but actually useless, gpu without clocks could be worse etc.
astral haven
any products advertising it are advertising that they will have support for it when it release
but they actually might not be able to
rough osprey
wifi 7 doesnt exist yet
you could still use hardware that supports ig
astral haven
yes I'm saying its nice for marketing but actually useless, gpu without clocks c...
well it is information that does have a use
same with wifi and hdmi
ashen spindle
meh