🔌│tech

[astral haven]

this image predates ai
cant believe you havent seen it before?

its a pretty famous picture?

havent taken any low voltage wiring classes?

or high voltage

any it classes at all?

wait yup as in you havent?

in hs my teacher showed us the image as a joke, and in my fiber wiring class they showed it as a demonstration

[pale sigil]

Why do powerline advertise as gigabit when they aren't

[astral haven]

you are probably crossing circuits

[pale sigil]

I just looked at loads of reviews

Our of curiosity

And they are all similar in regards to rarely reaching gigabit speeds so it's mostly theory

[astral haven]

oh yea you also cant have it on the same circuit as any AC motors

[pale sigil]

Since well powerline

If I could use direct I would :(

[astral haven]

thats not true any more

[wheat plume]

@pale sigil LOL

[pale sigil]

XD

[wheat plume]

I love Nick

[pale sigil]

My Nas etc are all done via switch so I won't suffer in that regard

[deft matrix]

some of the newer plugs or whatever these things are have better security now

[astral haven]

and many utilities have filters on their power meters because they use powerline communications to collect energy data

[pale sigil]

Lol when I need to download something quick ill totally sneak my long ethernet across the house and remove it once it's done 👀

[astral haven]

do you maybe have an extra router available?

[pale sigil]

No way in hell I'm downloading 130gb on powerline

Having an extra router wouldn't solve the issue

[astral haven]

you install it in your room

then you get significantly better download

wire up your room to the router in your room

you can carefully place it exactly where it has the best signal

[pale sigil]

Eh

The issue is I can't have a wire between rooms

[astral haven]

no

you connect the devices in your room to the router
then the router in your room wirelessly connects to your main router

[pale sigil]

Oh, it will still be shit.

[astral haven]

what makes you think that?

[pale sigil]

Because my speeds don't go over 200

Over WiFi

[astral haven]

with what devices 🤷

and what speed does the router advertise

[pale sigil]

Everything I've tested

[astral haven]

be specific

[latent mural]

.

[astral haven]

many devices only support connecting with 1 radio at a time despite the router usually having 2 or 3

[pale sigil]

TP-Link Archer AX1800 Next-Gen... https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B089YXY2YH?ref=ppx_pop_mob_ap_share

I swear I remember the WiFi being better

[astral haven]

yea so connecting to another router you can run 1200mbps max
likely practically limited to 866mbps

[pale sigil]

But if I can't even get that on my phone, laptop or iPad he will the second router

[astral haven]

are any of those wifi6?

[pale sigil]

Good question, no.

[astral haven]

🤨

[pale sigil]

My other laptop which I'll have later does

[wheat plume]

Krunner + DDG Bangs = AMAZING <3

brings me right to the youtube results page <3 right from desktop

I only learned how to use this in Krunner a few weeks ago .... ;-;

[astral haven]

you can also buy a wifi range extender, many of which have ethernet ports for connecting up devices

[pale sigil]

Surely WiFi 5 isn't this slow.

[astral haven]

ofdma can be a 50% speedup in perfect conditions, more in bad conditions

without ofdma, you can lose 20% of your total wifi bandwidth just by connecting up a second device

with more than 10 you may be losing 50% of your airtime to waiting for packets to clear the air

[pale sigil]

Well as I said

I was literally right next to it

And I was only getting this

[astral haven]

and how many other devices were connected?

[reef patrol]

Maybe you're on 2.4gz?

[pale sigil]

Nope

[reef patrol]

[pale sigil]

10 but I tried again and removed 5 and still similar speeds

[reef patrol]

It's still more than I get here with coaxial

[pale sigil]

Well I get 500/500 wired

I'm using my router as a router, I just yeeted the ISP one and plugged mine in.

[reef patrol]

Just got upgraded to 500/50. In theory anyway.

[pale sigil]

It's bizarre

[astral haven]

oh how are you verifying this?

[pale sigil]

I disabled 2.4 entirely

To test

[astral haven]

ok whats your channel width?

on the 5ghz

[pale sigil]

Auto

[astral haven]

manually set it as low as it goes

[pale sigil]

What I've always done

[pale sigil]

Ok

[astral haven]

40mhz channels will limit you to 866mbps but thats more than 500

also use your phone to check your neighbors channel widths

[pale sigil]

Didn't really do anything

[astral haven]

try setting it to 160 get rekt neighbors

[pale sigil]

80 max lol

[astral haven]

figured

yea you have a ton of interference from your neighbors

it was probably autoing to 40 thanks to that

[pale sigil]

Annoying

Ayyup

Getting some were

350 now

[astral haven]

now try on your wifi 6 device

also check your link rate

[pale sigil]

Lol, I have next doors router login

Maybe I should sabotage

[astral haven]

i mean manually setting them to 40mhz may speed up both of you

but your device should state what the actual link speed is

on wifi 6 you should be able to hit 90% of that, anything below that is interference
5 it highly depends on how many devices are connected on top of the interference

[pale sigil]

I'll check later

My sister has my laptop ATM

[astral haven]

oh also make sure your antennas are all vertical

[pale sigil]

Lol is it bad I'm considering sneaking an ethernet cable from one window to my front window ,😭😂

Just get a long ass wire

Have it dangle and wrapped around the house 😂😂

[astral haven]

seriously tho antenna placement matters alot

with the antenna vertical, this is the shape of signal in 3d

if you are directly in line with the antenna you will get no signal

yup

[fickle ore]

THAT FEEL not having optical router !

[astral haven]

tho you also dont want your antennas too close together, you may want to put them at 45 degrees
they will interfere as little as possible when the antennas make a 90 degree angle to each other

these are highly directional but the point is still the same

[pale sigil]

@prisma crag might bloody just buy a long cable and wire up nice and clean when tacs while my mum is at work

I did it when I was little and it worked for 2 weeks!

That's the plan

[astral haven]

just get a wifi extender

youve proven you can get at least 350, more is definetly possible with optimization

[pale sigil]

But that's slow

[astral haven]

so get a faster extender

[astral haven]

now i want an ionic 5

how much for it tho

[pale sigil]

@astral haven @prisma crag WiFi 6 device is 400+ XD

[astral haven]

toldja so

and thats speedtest not local

whats the actual link speed

[pale sigil]

the the moral of the story

i need wifi 6

[fair gull]

no

u need ethernet

[astral haven]

at work we deployed some aps that reached the neighbors

we ordered faaaaar too many aps

[pale sigil]

Which I'll have when they reach out

[fair gull]

u contracted someone to put ethernet throughout your house?

[ashen spindle]

oh intel earnings tonight, that'll bne spicy

[pale sigil]

No, i got proper fibre to my house because i changed ISP, however i chose to have it installed in the room im moving into soon vs my current room.

And so till i move room i can only use wifi or powerline

[ashen spindle]

run an Ethernet cable out the window if you cant run it inside?

[fickle ore]

Had Meta yesterday, nice +15 % profit

Intel gonna prob tank so much

[ashen spindle]

how tf is meta back that far

[fickle ore]

Beat earnings

DAU and MAU up

metaverse down tho

[ashen spindle]

glad I dont manage my portfolio myself then lol

[fickle ore]

lol

Who does?

[ashen spindle]

someone that I pay to do it lol

[fickle ore]

Damn u rolling then

[ashen spindle]

lol no

jsut enough saved up that it makes sense

think in theory the math works out that it usually makes profit once you are above 5k or smth low, just that its not a massive gain ofc

[pale sigil]

haha id love to but it would have to go around my entire house

[fickle ore]

Ic, well, investing is such a fun hobby you are losing out 😄

[ashen spindle]

I rather play video games

[fickle ore]

Fair I'd play too if anything was interesting atm

Intel earnings in 11 mins

Mobileye down 20% today, not good

[ashen spindle]

more fun if I only follow it a bit and keep making fun of intel stocks bc intel and not because I know what their exact finance book says lol

[fickle ore]

xD

Thing is with how often you follow tech you would likely benefit greatly $$ wise

[ashen spindle]

yesnt

I should've gone into amd earlier but that is such an outlier, like I can see tech trends or so but even if I know nvidia will make bank in AI I cant tell you how much they will beat projections which is where the stock price is based on

if they do insanely well but put the expectations too high, idk how to read that

[fickle ore]

You can do it now with other companies

There are outliers, maybe not such big

[thick elk]

Got to love aliexpress sometimes,
Clip holding the top mesh on my case has been broken for years now, was out of warranty didn't bother to contact the manufacturer.
Turns out I was only a 5 minute search away from finding the right part.
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/32984791641.html

Those clips are kind of garbage as I already got a replacement (under warranty, back in 2017)

[sharp badger]

https://videocardz.com/newz/amd-identifies-the-root-cause-of-ryzen-7000-cpus-burnout-issue-new-agesa-released 🤔

[thick elk]

Kinda, something was causing that voltage to go way too high, as it seems unlikely and contrary to reports that people deliberately pushed the voltage to way past safe levels.
This seems more like a workaround than identifying / fixing the root cause.

[ashen spindle]

workaround to make it stop and fix it in some agesa update/talk to MB makers to prevent it coming back likely

[fickle ore]

@ashen spindle https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BnX5l6C288I

Amazon 8.5 % aftermarket

xd

[thick elk]

True, also sane limits are not a bad thing to have

[ashen spindle]

already falling asleep from looking at that for 2 seconds

[fickle ore]

OMG

[pale sigil]

I have my sister to much power

She's already abusing it

She's turning the router off to "clean the wires"

[fickle ore]

@ashen spindle intc BEAT estimates which I'm very suprised with

I thought I was gonna lose insta 20%

[wheat plume]

Wtf

[ashen spindle]

Great intel too strong and broke my internet, discord and co don’t work, google doesn’t but YouTube loads???

[fickle ore]

rip

[ashen spindle]

Cant restart router because I’m still online in xiv and don’t want to drop that

[reef patrol]

[pale sigil]

Worst thing is it's fucking temporary

She's fucking moving out

[wheat plume]

Yep..

[pale sigil]

I never thought about the possibility of her fucking me over or messing with my stuff till now

She's worse than she's ever been

If she does anything she's out though

[rough osprey]

https://twitter.com/NVIDIAGFN/status/1651662502269165586?t=hHZDxKEwTY_4_7LSW1QsIg&s=19

🌩️ NVIDIA GeForce NOW (@NVIDIAGFN)

GeForce NOW and other cloud gaming providers stand to gain an even deeper catalog of games if Microsoft’s acquisition of Activision is completed.

We see this as a benefit to cloud gaming and hope for a positive resolution.

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Twitter · Apr 27, 2023, 7:00 PM

lol

[ashen spindle]

God people are so dumb when fanboy mode is on

They should look at what MS thought of GFN before they had to kiss ass to make the deal look fine

[pale sigil]

The comments sre cringe

And that's me saying that

[final flame]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=80rE40Pqbc4

why do zoomers have to be so damn stupid, I hate my own generation

[reef patrol]

Boomers falling for UPS, bank and other frauds would like a world.

[thick elk]

I feel like GFN is mostly a side hussle by Nvidia, they are really not concerned by long term strong-arming by Microsoft.
So the catalog of games they have to release there is a nice bonus.

[reef patrol]

Humans are dumb, period 😄

[final flame]

true

[astral haven]

except the only people who lose are the people seeing the spam
the spammers and the company both receive benefits

[final flame]

the spammers have a small chance to receive anything

[astral haven]

nope

[final flame]

they don't tell you how many referrals you need

that's where they get you

[astral haven]

its just hard and gamified

they make it look like its easy but its always hard

theres no chance to it

[wheat plume]

Definitely not as dumb as falling for this scam

https://youtu.be/T4oJocT6E-c

They ask for your Microsoft account password reset code

As soon as they have that
Your account is theirs

[reef patrol]

[wheat plume]

There is also a Roblox scam that asks for your account login token that you need to find in the network tab of the browser dev console

[gusty kiln]

Just tried the nebula app on windows

Refresh rate seems to be bugged

Feels like 20-30hz

But it does project the displays properly

[astral haven]

you arent the only one ive heard

[gusty kiln]

Not bad for day 1 software

I had to disable nvidia gpu in my laptop though

Only a mx350 anyway

[astral haven]

according to them its only nvidia supported for now

lol

[wheat plume]

[gusty kiln]

Hmmmm, my usbc connect to my integrated gpu unfortunately

It's not a gaming laptop

[cursive summit]

They are good af and cheap af

Don't need to spend 10x more for "specialist equipment" when this is just as good if not better

[wheat plume]

Ikr!

Like how the military use Xbox controllers to control UAVs and shit

https://www.dexerto.com/tech/valves-steam-deck-used-by-ukrainian-army-to-control-machine-gun-turrets-2127310/

[cursive summit]

https://tenor.com/view/if-it-aint-broke-dont-fix-it-ronnie-lee-schitts-creek-leave-it-alone-its-fine-gif-20099041

[astral haven]

iiiinteresting @gusty kiln

basically pretending its a single 3840x1080 display at 72hz and rendering to that

[finite vale]

[fair gull]

that the nebula thing?

[severe phoenix]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/756614234103873577/1101132038209286204/FustXUxaAAE9-D2.jpg

[cursive summit]

Fuck yeah

@severe phoenix eat your fucking words

[severe phoenix]

Lol.

https://tenor.com/view/tom-hanks-just-wait-gif-8524221

[cursive summit]

Uh huh

[severe phoenix]

Some third party benchmarks when they appear will be interesting

[cursive summit]

I can't wait for GN to do a deepdive

They will tear the thing down to the atoms

[severe phoenix]

Uhm , you might want to avoid their video lol, if you plan to get a Ally

[cursive summit]

??

[severe phoenix]

Gamers Nexus, right?

I can see them absolutely hating it lol

[cursive summit]

?

Why

GN did a really incredibly deepdive into the Steam Deck

And it was nothing but praises

Well, they had issues with the battery but that's just natural, it's a handheld

[old marlin]

the issues were steam deck specific

with the battery

was with how it was fitted into the case

which makes it hard to remove safely

[pale sigil]

Well shit

[cursive summit]

Not shit

Good

[pale sigil]

As in wellll shit that's good

[rough osprey]

i think they really want it

[ashen spindle]

the more concessions they make the more suspicious it is what they want to do with it

[rough osprey]

why

[ashen spindle]

because if you buy something you want to make money from it in these mergers

if you take away more options they need to make more elsewhere

[fair gull]

maybe the plan is to resurrect wow and actually make it good

and earn that cash

[rough osprey]

Just owning them earns money

and these cloud deals also do

don't think they give all those games for free

[ashen spindle]

yea but if you spend 80 billion and earn 1 billion a year or so from it, that is a shit purchase that nobody would want to do

[rough osprey]

luckily Activision blizzard already earns double that per quarter

[ashen spindle]

if the projected expectation is that you can just own a company by a year you make all the money back and then get free money basically, the stock is priced higher because that is factored into a buying price

[rough osprey]

thats a really unrealistic expectation tho

for buying any company

[ashen spindle]

well yeah you still dont merge with company if you project to never gain a benefit that is worth the purchase

[old marlin]

https://video.matrox.com/en/products/graphics-cards/luma-series

wtf

next one

[ashen spindle]

eh its just for embedded

[old marlin]

still

quite surprising

[ashen spindle]

eh, I guess

intel just needs partners to push volume through oem market and such

[halcyon moss]

that pricing isnt too bad

[cursive summit]

It's actually really good

Far better than the deck

Actually I would even say, it's incredible

512GB Deck is 679 euros right now, the Ally will have the same if not cheaper pricing, with far more power, and a far better display

[halcyon moss]

699 USD is without taxes right?

[ashen spindle]

ya

[cursive summit]

I will be assuming with?

Why would Best Buy show it without tax

[ashen spindle]

usd is always no taxes

[cursive summit]

Why is it fuckin confusing over there

[ashen spindle]

because some states dont even have sales tax

[fair gull]

the same goes for steamdeck prices though

[misty saffron]

if only you could somehow get the location of an internet website user... oh wait

[ashen spindle]

but then its a mess if you order from another state or something or tell someone a price and its different etc.

it makes sense for the us just the us makes no sense

but also this is nothing new, how many years have you looked at hardware prices now and still keep forgetting that

[severe phoenix]

Yeah no sales tax or income tax here

[ashen spindle]

now I just hope the other cpus exploding wont make it so GNs test has to be pushed back haha

[cursive summit]

Why

Price: unknown
Specs: uncomparable
Game availability: it's a PC

[blazing pecan]

LMAO

it should be steam deck vs asus rog ally

[cursive summit]

That is a far better title and comparison

Switch is a switch

Deck and Ally are competitors

[blazing pecan]

Comparing it to the switch is insane 😭

[cursive summit]

Switch just stands alone honestly

[blazing pecan]

Bro cant even do 1080p

[cursive summit]

Nothing can quite compare to it

Cause it serves a single ecosystem

That nothing else apart from emu can touch

If you bring emu into discussion then sure, Switch is absolute ass assuming the titles are properly optimized on the emu

But yeah when you are such a closed ecosystem like Nintendo's, why even bring it into discussion

[blazing pecan]

I guess cause its handheld?

[cursive summit]

Your guess is wrong, imo

It's cause it's a Switch

Generates clicks

"Omg I know about Switch, I have one! Is this Ally thing better than my Switch?"

When it makes no sense to compare them

On the other hand

Dyson actually launched their air purifying headphones

[blazing pecan]

okay yeah thats insane I saw some tt clips about that

[cursive summit]

I don't hate it

[blazing pecan]

ohhh you know what this makes sense

[cursive summit]

But I feel it should have launched in 2020 before Cowona

People were buying up all sorts of masks, throw in a good medical filter on it and you have a fancy ass headphone with a virus filter

Would have been probably quite successful if it launched 3 years ago

[blazing pecan]

Yeah

[cursive summit]

Although truth be told

It's still not useless

People in India breathe contaminated air frequently, same with China and I guess the metropolitan U.S

Good for people with allergies

But while it still has an audience, it's far lower than what it was

[blazing pecan]

Its just that price tag but I think people are willing to pay that cause its a health investment

[cursive summit]

You'd be very surprised what some people pay to take care of their health

A lot of "medical grade" products are a price premium above, and frequently very much coveted and sold out even

Like household air purifiers

There is a brand, I forgot the name of it, that makes them for 700$ and they are considered as a go-to product line for people with respiratory issues

If Dyson can make something portable that's actually not shit, well good for them

https://www.theverge.com/23698352/dyson-zone-review-headphones-wearables-air-purifier

Taking a loan asap

Sold

[blazing pecan]

Yeah my family actually owns like three Coway ones

I was surprised when I heard the price but when I saw them actively working it was sick

[latent mural]

Can I possibly, get some help in #archived_wooting_60he 🥺

[cursive summit]

https://tenor.com/view/no-thanks-resident-evil4-leon-gif-18406020

[blazing pecan]

Sorry my keeb comes today

[latent mural]

👍

[blazing pecan]

Ill figure out how to use it and lyk

[cursive summit]

https://twitter.com/NVIDIAGFN/status/1651662502269165586?s=20

🌩️ NVIDIA GeForce NOW (@NVIDIAGFN)

GeForce NOW and other cloud gaming providers stand to gain an even deeper catalog of games if Microsoft’s acquisition of Activision is completed.

We see this as a benefit to cloud gaming and hope for a positive resolution.

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Twitter · Apr 27, 2023, 7:00 PM

[old marlin]

[ashen spindle]

repost

[old marlin]

everyone trying to fuck over sony

will we get candycrush on gamepass though

[cursive summit]

https://tenor.com/view/who-asked-gif-19808527

[pale sigil]

Touche

Honestly

[fair gull]

repost

[cursive summit]

https://tenor.com/view/crazy-no-one-cares-who-asked-who-asked-meme-gif-24508192

[fair gull]

https://tenor.com/view/who-asked-gif-19808527

[cursive summit]

https://tenor.com/view/cracking-knuckles-goku-dragon-ball-z-gif-12769358

Bring it on

[wheat plume]

the braille watch is really cool

the ball bearings let you feel for the time

[cursive summit]

Someone finally watched the new dank pods video

[wheat plume]

yes xd

[cursive summit]

Takes you a million years

[wheat plume]

yes

definetly

[cursive summit]

https://tenor.com/view/84-years-titanic-old-ancient-gif-5071803

[wheat plume]

I like this idea, you dont have to piss people off by checking the time anymore

making them think you are bored of them and want to leave

[cursive summit]

You'd still somehow manage though

[fair gull]

more like ball bearing

unless i dont see the second one

[wheat plume]

the second one is on the outer sides of the watch

you can barely see it in the screenshot

[fair gull]

where

[wheat plume]

you can slightly see it on the top

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ldorYyE9m8o

I recently found out this guy now lives in a renovated van

He did up the back to have a bed and whatnot

[wheat plume]

Science isnt about why
Its about why not

[vagrant pagoda]

You know if you link the video, it will embed the title and thumbnail automatically, AND other people can then click on it and view the video

[wheat plume]

yes but most of the time I link a video, the typical response is NO ONE CARES

so if someone cares, they will find it themselves and not say anything

[vagrant pagoda]

I mean it's the seams respone with the screenshot XD

Just less covenant

Lol

[wheat plume]

the kernel documentation is wrong

should be 65535

[ashen spindle]

As per usual: wtf is the context

[wheat plume]

A proposal for Fedora to change this value so that more games run on Linux

And they mention that Valve already made this change on the Steam Deck

[vagrant pagoda]

Nah the value is 65535, the number is actually 65536

[wheat plume]

Wut

Arrays start at 0 or something?

[halcyon moss]

not sure if serious

[ashen spindle]

so some random steamos setting and you dont know what a shorts value range is, ok

[severe phoenix]

https://apos.audio/products/smsl-su-1-dac

https://www.audiosciencereview.com/forum/index.php?threads/smsl-su-1-stereo-dac-review.44029/

[gusty kiln]

Hmmmm, what gpu are you using?

[astral haven]

Yes

[astral haven]

This was on 3090
Also works on 2080ti

[thick yew]

Hey I've done that with dolphin emu before, Nvidia's drivers have a semi-functional technology for that

[astral haven]

This is nreals nebula app

And they hope to get it working on amd and I hope they can get it working on intel too

[nocturne kestrel]

Hey. Got a quick question. i am a GTA 5 Rp player (FiveM) is there a Profile i can use to use my Wooting 60 he to the full extend in gta 5?
dont want to use a controller to drive

[thick yew]

I wanted to see if I could get the Pikmin 2 multiplayer mod to work well in ultra wide over 2 monitors so each player could get half of a monitor instead of all having to share one but

Unfortunately the dev decided that the middle split was "good enough" and didn't center it

😭

[astral haven]

This is extremely different

These are glasses that act like a second monitor

[thick yew]

It seems fundamentally similar though

Stretching a single output onto multiple "monitors" and rendering them as one? Or am I just

Wrong

[astral haven]

It acts like one monitor already
You don't need surround

[thick yew]

Ah ok so you're copying one display onto 2 other "displays" okok I misunderstood

[astral haven]

I'm not, the company makes an app and I figured out that is how they were doing it

[thick yew]

Ok sorry for trying to have a conversation

[reef patrol]

[astral haven]

Sorry fam it's just not how it works
It shows up as 1 monitor...
You don't need to span anything it's just 3840x1080

[vagrant pagoda]

You mean the built in one to drivers?

Display fusion is the opposite

And it's not a os

DF is paid product

DF splits one display into smaller units

I use surround to bring 3 screens into 1

This display fusion to split that back into 6 displays

Only games I have issue are games that have fixed resolution tables

[astral haven]

Do you really think Intel is gonna give up that quickly?

Also multiprojection is used for VR mostly

I thought that project was still up?

[vagrant pagoda]

Nonsupport from devs

[astral haven]

🤷 Intel followed it up with just having the nuc bare boards bc the Arduino market was just too crowded

[ashen spindle]

arc wont be folded because data center needs it

[crisp granite]

...man I hope NVidia actually puts decent amounts of VRAM in future boards

makes pretty much all of their offerings look like ass relative to AMD

[ashen spindle]

at this point that would be more expensive to add due to MoQ and needing different memory controllers so thankfully aint happening

[crisp granite]

...haha

yeah

I wouldn't expect them to do anything other than bus size and saving GDDR6X for the higher end cards

[vagrant pagoda]

Nah you can stick bigger capacity modules

[ashen spindle]

huh

talking about his joke about using gddr4

[cedar stump]

hey not sure if anyone can help but i got my keyboard and downloaded the software and it cant find my keyboard so i reset it and it still cant find it

[tribal dirge]

RTX 6000s

It’s a beast of a workstation gpu

48 gigs of GDDR6 with ECC.

[wheat plume]

wut

this shows up in File Explorer when I hover over it

doesnt do anything when clicked or show an icon

[woven laurel]

works for me

maybe some permission option?

[wheat plume]

I'm not talking about the search bar

I'm talking about that thing above it that not usually there

And that dark area only shows when I hover over it

There isn't even a tooltip for whatever it is

Yep

You used to need third party software to do basic shit until 11

Like extract files and crap

[crimson wigeon]

wat

[wheat plume]

You still need a third party video player to play anything that isn't basic mp4

....

Bruh

[crimson wigeon]

I remember unzipping crap without any extra software on XP..
it was ridiculously slow though compared to proper software x d

[rough osprey]

damn i have never encountered that situation in my life

[wheat plume]

I watch a lot of anime
So .mkv files and subtitles and multiple audio tracks are common

And the default media player can't play them a lot of the time

Some work

But not all

[rough osprey]

oh not streaming?

[crimson wigeon]

That is true it's a horrible piece of software

[wheat plume]

I stream anime on Linux
But not on windows cause the software I use for it isn't on windows

And I refuse to use sketchy websites to watch it

[astral haven]

This is also not true btw

[wheat plume]

The software isn't on windows

[rough osprey]

but media player does mkv

[wheat plume]

Just straight up

[rough osprey]

🤔

[astral haven]

What?

[wheat plume]

Yeh
But not always mkv with subtitles and multiple audio tracks

[rough osprey]

also not on newest update?

[wheat plume]

ani-cli
Is a bash script

[wheat plume]

I'm on the latest update
Always
I never run outdated software if I can avoid it

[rough osprey]

good

[wheat plume]

Which is a reason I don't like distros like plain Debian ....

It's always like 5 versions outdated on most software

I think it pushes out web browser updates on time

At least, I'd hope so

Could I use ani-cli on Windows if I use WSL? Xd

Hhhmmm

There's an idea to try tomorrow

[astral haven]

Just use the website itself?

[rough osprey]

imagining not being on win11 insider canary channel

[wheat plume]

I actually am ...
But the dev channel, I think
Whatever one is their recommended channel

[rough osprey]

ye dev

[wheat plume]

It's stable af for me

But that strange thing in explorer when I hover over it.. xd idk wtf that is

Tbf
The most niche hardware I have is a USB Switch
Soooo

[rough osprey]

im always weirded out by the pizza piece

[wheat plume]

Ikr xd

Why is it pizza? We may never know

Unless they explained in some blog post idk

[rough osprey]

hover over it :D

it only makes sense to be a pizza

[wheat plume]

I know why it's there
But why pizza?

[rough osprey]

bc pizza

the changes are so yummy

[wheat plume]

:')

Features Linux probably already has

Like the tabs

Linux still has split pane view
Doubt explorer will get that

[rough osprey]

who wants to use linux tho

[wheat plume]

Me

Windows irritates me too much

[pale sigil]

Linux desktop irritates me so much

[wheat plume]

But you are you
You get pissed off at Windows just as much

[pale sigil]

That is also true

[wheat plume]

Yes xd

[rough osprey]

i love windows

[pale sigil]

I love windows 51%

Linux 49%

And 40% of that is server

[wheat plume]

Do you actually like Windows?
As in, the desktop and the workflow of it and the theme and UI design?

[rough osprey]

win11 yes

[wheat plume]

Not counting the software and what not

But the desktop experience itself

[rough osprey]

like i wouldn't know what to change

[pale sigil]

Ironically I end up making my distro look like w11

Then I question myself why I'm using Linux

[wheat plume]

I just want global keyboard shortcuts in Windows 11
Bind them to any command and can be run entirely in a background process

[wheat plume]

Trying to think of Linux as similar to Windows is the first step on how to get pissed off at it when it doesn't work similar to Windows

[woven laurel]

I mean most of the users are using a wooting for gaming and guess which os supports that best. however I must say its really cool we have so many linux enthusiasts here

[wheat plume]

My Wooting never had issues in Linux

Once I setup the udev rules from the guide Rocky made

But that's for Wootility
The board itself worked fine without doing anything

[ashen spindle]

the point was for gaming not the board itself having less support on the os

[wheat plume]

Playstation what?

[rough osprey]

5

[wheat plume]

Oh
Sneaky edit

[frozen ingot]

windows user experience is fine for most part imo

[rough osprey]

hope they can rework all settings menus

[frozen ingot]

its not perfect, but nothing is

[ashen spindle]

the "workflow" for most people is having chrome open and tab between other apps they use and have a file explorer , not much to do there on the os side

[wheat plume]

I really love the gnome desktop workflow

The overview is amazing

[ashen spindle]

dont even know what that means

[wheat plume]

Have you seen gnome desktop on Linux?

[ashen spindle]

I barely see my desktop on windows

[wheat plume]

This is the overview
You get to it by pressing the windows key

And you see any open windows and any open virtual desktops
And can search for anything by typing

And you can drag apps to other desktop

[frozen ingot]

also windows is the only OS that kinda does everything, whether it be gaming, work or supporting niche equipment

[wheat plume]

That's because of its market share

Every other OS is no where close so no one cares

[ashen spindle]

why are the apps bigger than the desktop background there are in xD that seems weird for something so focused on design

[wheat plume]

Gnome be like that

That doesn't happen outside of this overview

Ofc

[frozen ingot]

yes but also because the developers realize the importance of widespread compatibility and user friendlyness

[ashen spindle]

but also thats just basically win+tab on windows which I use like once a month, by accident

[wheat plume]

Yes but it's also the start menu and the search bar all in one

As soon as you open the Overview, you can start typing for what you want to search for or type the name of an app to launch it

[frozen ingot]

since there's no intention to sell or profit off linux distros there's little incentive for those that develop it to improve its user experience and ease of use

[rough osprey]

that looks like a mix of macos and android

[wheat plume]

Yep

I like it though

Even the quick toggles are like Android

[rough osprey]

windows plans these kinda things too

[wheat plume]

Windows 11 does have quick toggles that are similar yeah

[rough osprey]

but they rather release the os before finishing it

[wheat plume]

There's a simple reason for that

They literally have no QA team

They fired them all

[rough osprey]

lol

[wheat plume]

All the mainstream Linux distros have lots of QA put in before new releases

Keyword: mainstream

Ubuntu
Fedora
Debian
Arch
OpenSUSE

[rough osprey]

who wanna use a os named fedora

[frozen ingot]

m'lady

[rough osprey]

reddit os

[wheat plume]

Ironically it's the most stable distro I've ever used

Unlike Reddit

That place is unstable

Even my ancient printer worked out of the box on Fedora

[rough osprey]

reddit is only good for appearing when searching random questions on google

[wheat plume]

I use Reddit pretty often for cute anime wallpaper

And seeing depressing news articles about religion and transphobes

[rough osprey]

interesting combination

[wheat plume]

Yeah...

I'm very cynical

:') and depressed af pessimist

[rough osprey]

maybe cynical bc of being depressed and pessimistic

[wheat plume]

Yeah
Probably

But seeing all the shit being done by political parties and people in other types of power....

Can't help but be this way

Especially in America

That country is evolving

Just backwards

They going back in time

To when everyone but straight white cisgender christian men were considered important

[rough osprey]

ye always hearing some weird news

[wheat plume]

Telegram... Why?

[rough osprey]

telegram premium???

[wheat plume]

Yep

[rough osprey]

what aspect ratio is your phone

[wheat plume]

I think 19:9 but not sure

That's a long screenshot

It takes screenshot of things off screen that are part of the app too

[rough osprey]

its a weird discord nitro

[wheat plume]

I'd argue it's better value than discord nitro

Kind of

[rough osprey]

everything is

[wheat plume]

Yeah...

Well.... Not Snapchat Plus

[rough osprey]

what does that do

[wheat plume]

Until they lock dark theme for it's Android app behind Plus

Apparently once they bring dark theme to Android it'll not be free like on iPhone

I hope that rumor isn't true

Iphone got dark theme on Snapchat 3 years ago

[rough osprey]

ios moment

have they fixed android camera quality already

[wheat plume]

Yes

Snapchat can actually access the camera hardware directly

That was fixed about 3 years ago

[rough osprey]

Oh damn

[wheat plume]

Until this fix
It requested Android to open it's viewfinder and just took screenshots 30 times a second basically

It was a good enough solution once you consider that they never wanted to make an Android version in the first place

[rough osprey]

thats how i take picture with my camera

just putting my phone camera into the viewfinder

basically the same result

but app developers prioritizing ios is kinda annoying

[wheat plume]

The viewfinder in this case is just Android's ability to access what the camera hardware sees

[wheat plume]

Tbh
It's a lot easier to make apps on iphones
Cause there are just 3 phones a year to optimize for

Unlike the thousands Android gets per year

[rough osprey]

ye

but this big companies

[wheat plume]

Though getting your app into the app store is painful

[rough osprey]

should atleast try to get the same app everywhere

atleast the most popular androids

[wheat plume]

Snapchat only has an Android version because people got pissed off

Reminds me of Spotify only having Linux builds because the devs who make Spotify use Linux and wanted music while they make Spotify

Thanks Spotify devs!

[rough osprey]

now look at the new Spotify app

not designed by devs lol

[wheat plume]

Spotify for Linux is a labor of love from our engineers that wanted to listen to Spotify on their Linux development machines. They work on it in their spare time and it is currently not a platform that we actively support.

[wheat plume]

Hmmm? I haven't used it in like 2 years or more

[rough osprey]

they wanna be TikTok

[wheat plume]

Videos on a music streaming service??

[rough osprey]

https://youtu.be/jA9Y3IFwTB8

[wheat plume]

....

I'm real glad I switched

Videos on a music streaming service
WHY???

[frozen ingot]

[rough osprey]

only service with non lossless or

[wheat plume]

Idek what quality Spotify streams

[rough osprey]

320

[wheat plume]

I always had the low quality cause I never paid for it

[rough osprey]

kbps

oh lol

[frozen ingot]

free is 160 or something iirc

[wheat plume]

I had a hosts file that blocked any domains it tried to stream ads from

[rough osprey]

spotify low quality sounds off

[wheat plume]

Mostly cause the ads they play in Ireland, the guy doing the voice over sounds like he's very VERY sick

Like think how someone with a really bad cold sounds
And multiply it by 10

Yeah...I see that

[frozen ingot]

bitrate varies depending on your connection speed too

[wheat plume]

In a bad direction

[frozen ingot]

can be anything from 24 to 160 on the free version, and up to 320 for premium

[wheat plume]

24

.....

[frozen ingot]

guess that's for when you're stuck on 3G coverage

[wheat plume]

What's YT Music "Highest" quality?

Oh
High

Oh

Yeah...
She looks like she kills things she gets control over

[frozen ingot]

spotify has never done that well financially though

[wheat plume]

Bruh

I TOLD YOU THAT YOU CAN USE MOBILE DATA
WHY YOU WAITING FOR WIFI???

[frozen ingot]

there's a lot of things pointing towards them going belly up eventually

[rough osprey]

didn't netflix say that their ad supported plan is giving them more profit then the standard one

just bc of ads

[frozen ingot]

didn't know netflix even had an ad financed plan

[vagrant pagoda]

That's what she said

[thick yew]

I'm building my dad a zen5 pc with a 6650xt, I'm very excited to see how everything performs

My first ddr5 build and my first amd GPU build

Was able to get a really good deal on some 32gb ddr5 6000 cl36 for barely more than paid for my 16gb kit of ddr4 3200 cl16

[astral haven]

that seems very unbalanced for gaming but for work 🤷‍♂️

[thick yew]

I mean he does all sorts of things on his laptop

He also wanted upgradability so I overspec'd his psu as well

He's currently just running 1080p 60hz but he's planning on upgrading eventually, and I'm starting him off with just a 7600 (non-x)

[astral haven]

did you already buy parts?

[thick yew]

So no matter what there's going to be an upgrade path for him down the line when he decides to upgrade parts of his setup

Yes I did waiting for them to ship

[astral haven]

hmm

[thick yew]

GPU and ram arrived already

[astral haven]

do you want any input?

[thick yew]

Well yeah

Or at least to talk about it

I know I could've gotten better value deals but that's not what this build was about

[astral haven]

well
buying for upgradeability is a really bad idea

[thick yew]

I understand future proofing is not real

But I don't want him to have to buy a new computer every time a new game comes out that he wants to play but can't run

Which is what he used to do

So many landfill computers in my childhood

[astral haven]

yes?

[blazing pecan]

H9 elite vs 011 vs hyte y60 for a new build?

[astral haven]

how does this change things?

[thick yew]

LGA1700 is already dead end as it is, while am5 is projected to last at least 3 more years so if he needs a substantial CPU upgrade in the future it'll be possible without a platform swap

[astral haven]

"substantial"

[thick yew]

• if and when he gets a higher res monitor, hell be able to upgrade his GPU easily if need be (or have me do it lol) without a psu upgrade

[astral haven]

best projected performance improvements from very bullish people is around 25% raw perf
that translates to closer to 10% average 20% best case fps improvements

[thick yew]

Yes the jump from a 7600 to 9600 will be much more substantial.than a 7600 to 7700

[astral haven]

sure gpu yea
but why not spend 100 less on the platform and spend 100 more on the gpu for like a pretty insane perf improvement, well over that 20% that you theoretically might be able to purchase for another 300 in 3 years

[thick yew]

I understand that and yet he still told me specifically that he'd like his machine to be upgradable down the line

[astral haven]

sure
so go ddr5 and nice psu

but you will not be keeping the motherboard if you want more than a 20% perf improvement

[thick yew]

It's not overspec'd to future proof or anything, it's upgradable for the next few years if he ever has the need to

[thick yew]

Say that to a320 platforms running 5600x's

[astral haven]

say that to the a320 users who got motherboards that didnt get that update...

[thick yew]

That might have been true 2 years ago but almost every a320 board that could handle a 5600x has a bios update for it

[astral haven]

oh heres another crazy stat tho

[thick yew]

It's not like I bought a low end motherboard for his midrange CPU either

[astral haven]

8400 vs 2700x

[thick yew]

Lol

Wasn't that during the time where zen+ was having a really hard time keeping up with single core performance regardless of price category?

[astral haven]

yes

[thick yew]

Amd didn't catch up in that department until zen3

[astral haven]

exactly

amd has zero cpus beating the 13700k at 4k consistently

the x3d majorly wins at 1080p but it just doesnt at 4k

and the non x3d just dont win

like sure if amd werent there intel would be charging us an arm and a leg

but amd is there

and intel is laser focused on beating their prices

amd releases a cpu, wait a few weeks and intel will have a sale across the board to beat it

[thick yew]

Right but we're not talking about 4k

We're talking 1080 60

[astral haven]

you specified upgrading monitor

and the non 3d chips just outright dont win

they are just insanely profitable, power efficient, and driving nails into intel to get them to lower prices

but intel is lowering prices

[thick yew]

Oh the power efficiency issue was addressed with the zen4 non-x releases though

And the temp issues

And again, I not considering 12th Gen or 13th gen due to the dead end platform

[astral haven]

again tho buying for future promises that you know you cant make use of

[thick yew]

The CPU reliance in games at 4k is entire game dependant anyways as well

[thick yew]

??

[astral haven]

so this is about a 1k system right, i guess decently less with that gpu but approx ballpark right?

[thick yew]

The final budget was 1100usd since I already had the case

Would be closer to 1200 if I had to buy a case

The deal on the 2tb m.2 SSD I got was insane as well

2tb crucial p5 for 130usd

[astral haven]

ok so if you upgrade the cpu lets be generous and say its 1400 tco right?

[thick yew]

Roughly, but total cost is a non-issue

[astral haven]

you spend 1400 and you get 20% more performance

right?

we can even be super generous and say 30% even tho thats super not gonna happen in games

[thick yew]

The only reason he didn't want a "bitchin gaming machine" is because he would never utilize it

• we're doing renovations

[astral haven]

quinn

answer the question

do you understand the premise?

you are planning right now on spending extra money in the future

[thick yew]

What even was your question

Yes I'm gonna spend money on future components regardless

It's my hobby after all

So I'll spend less overall by ensuring I can re-use as many components as possible while still getting a measurable performance uplift

[astral haven]

ok so you are planning on spending 1400 in the future to get a 20% uplift
how about you buy a 10% slower cpu, a 50% faster gpu, and get that 30% performance right now for the same price

[thick yew]

If I spend 2200usd in a computer I won't have to upgrade for say 5 years, that's still gonna cost me more than buying a 1200usd computer now and gradually upgrading

[astral haven]

maybe if you sell all your parts while they are still valuable 🤷

[thick yew]

Especially since I can then in the future use the older parts in builds to give to friends/family who need them

[astral haven]

but im not saying spend more money now

im saying spend the same amount now and just get a computer as good as you would have gotten in the upgrade

[thick yew]

Ok but that's literally not possible though?

13600 vs 7600 is not gonna have any visual difference in performance for the things my father does with his computer

I imagine he'd have more of a headache with the p vs e core architecture with some of the older games I imagine he's going to play

[astral haven]

except itll save you a solid hundo

which you can spend on a crazy faster gpu

[thick yew]

Honestly 100usd is not really an issue

And the 6650xt is more than capable for 1080p 60, 1080p 144, and 1440 60

The only time he'll have to upgrade his GPU is if and when he decides to go 4k but I don't see that being any time soon

Originally I was going to get him a 6600xt but found that 6650xt's go for the same price

[astral haven]

but you could get a 6800 pc for the same price if you just ignore upgradeability
well at least in the us

[thick yew]

Ok but he's not going to utilize a 6800 at all

You cannot get a 6800pc for 1100usd unless you buy everything used

Feel free to prove me wrong

I'll send my current parts list

https://pcpartpicker.com/user/Czaxi/saved/ZM4YXL

[astral haven]

yea its pretty rough to fit 32gb in there

[thick yew]

The 16gb ddr5 kits are also very bad value

Not to mention the 6800 being nigh-impossible to find on 1st party sites

The 6700 is even harder to find

[astral haven]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/99Qjmr
for $30 more, and about 10% less cpu perf (-5ish% cpu perf 5%ish ram perf) i fit a 6800
and you could absolutely have gotten a base model 6800 that isnt from sapphire to fit i just wouldnt do that

did have slightly sacrifice across the board but besides a few missing usb ports you wont notice

[severe phoenix]

https://twitter.com/_snoopytech_/status/1652099567318343680

SnoopyTech (@_snoopytech_)

ASUS ROG Ally 7" AMD Z1 (not Extreme) = $599.99
16 GB LPDDR5, 256 GB NVMe M.2 SSD

Twitter · Apr 28, 2023, 11:56 PM

Not gettting the Extreme seems like the dumbest idea ever.

[astral haven]

what?

[severe phoenix]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1020319705820569711/1101708547064082522/eX00KZ4.png

[astral haven]

yea but battery life

[severe phoenix]

Yeah so we're talking about a 100$ price tag between Extreme and non Extreme

With the Extreme being significantly faster

[astral haven]

no chance lol

[severe phoenix]

Twice the storage, much stronger hardware

It's not logical

I guess we'll see.

[astral haven]

z1e is 1k
i mean for 7 hundo for z1e thats a no brainer

[severe phoenix]

Yeah it's dubious, the non Extreme model would be a joke at that price point

[astral haven]

yea

but that would in fact prove its the same chip just lower bin

[severe phoenix]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1020319705820569711/1101408257802768384/z1_extreme_z1_ryzen_1080p.png

when both limited to 28w

Hmm?

This screenshot is both limited to 28W, the TDP of the device

Still, if the price difference is only 100$, it's a strange thing

[astral haven]

btw $100 is alot

[severe phoenix]

Not if you double performance

But we'll see

We'll see I guess what the real price is then. The non Extreme would make sense at like maybe 400-450$.

[astral haven]

i would be insanely shocked if the z1 was under 600 and more shocked if the extreme were under 800
but we shall see

[sharp badger]

https://www.androidauthority.com/asus-rog-ally-release-date-3318411/ Yeah release date is closing in

[severe phoenix]

June 13th

[sharp badger]

Lol yeah rumors on rumors but May 11th will probably give some answers 😆

https://rog.asus.com/gaming-handhelds/rog-ally/rog-ally-2023/

[severe phoenix]

lol

Very High Chance under 1000$ lol

So not 100%

999.99 😛

700$ for non-xtreme

Thjat'd make more sense

[astral haven]

Nah they need to be relatively close to the same storage deck for the same performance

Tho as an egpu platform who knows

[cursive summit]

"We have been able to reproduce a catastrophic failure resulting in the motherboard self-immolating while we were running external current logging, thermography, and direct VSOC leads to a DMM. The issue involves incompetence on many levels. Video script being finalized now. This video has taken us all week to do. We stepped off a plane from AMD HQ (unrelated, but convenient timing) on Tuesday and immediately set to work. It has been a time-consuming, expensive, physically exhausting process and we've loved every minute of it. The team is thrilled to have a real result and successful root-cause analysis that goes layers beyond "it's SOC voltage," because it's not that simple. We appreciate your support in viewing the video when it launches, because that's the real reward for our tired team. Keep an eye out and share it wide. Thank you!"

Apparently their 7800X3D went kaboom

[reef patrol]

The issue involves incompetence on many levels

https://tenor.com/view/choujeki-eating-popcorn-gif-14739088

[cursive summit]

Intel wouldn't design a shit chipset

AMD bad

[old gulch]

Seems to me the most “updated”

and before anyone thinks it yes L profile pic

[cursive summit]

https://www.xbiz.com/news/273326/ncose-launches-campaign-to-ban-all-adult-content-from-reddit

"religiously motivated anti-porn lobby"

Yeah already not to be taken seriously

[old gulch]

I mean it (platform) was already being used for the same purpose with Reddit slides, most ppl don’t comment on NSFW except for honest satire

[old gulch]

Wonder if this means no wholesome memes

[cursive summit]

It wont' pass

Just religious fanatics trying to be relevant

[old gulch]

Sorry didn’t read :p

[rough osprey]

what g pro x superlight color is this

[old marlin]

There were some gradient versions leaked

Might be the leaked lime green

[old gulch]

Wishing well jargon but this makes me think of Jayz reviewing some keeb w/ an OLED display, Zephyrus Duo style

Wonder if it could spur a handheld with an analogue keyboard soon

[rough osprey]

they really gonna make 1000varitions before dropping an update

[old gulch]

Like HE switches and all

I launched G HUB recently, saw “support for Logitech GPX - Green”

[old marlin]

There was a laptop with analog wasd already

From acer

[old gulch]

Name?

[old marlin]

Forgot

Was quite a few years ago now

[old gulch]

Surprised that worked, some chinesium mech norm kb laptop came as utter trash

[old marlin]

Nope

Was a rubberdome

But wasd just had magnets glued on the bottom of the caps

[old gulch]

Oof

Pain to type on then

[cursive summit]

I.. what? https://www.theverge.com/2023/4/28/23702992/ai-nuclear-weapon-launch-ban-bill-markey-lieu-beyer-buck

Why the hell would you want it to be able to in the first place

[reef patrol]

Don't Pizza, Dead inside

[true quest]

someone will try either way, so with policies in place you can at least try to hold some gov or org accountable

[astral haven]

lol as if anything will exist if one of these gets launched

it depends the goals we set for the ai

[true quest]

if tay, and certain other ai have taught me something, it is that they will sacrifice us to prolong their existence

[astral haven]

thats a pretty bad lesson to learn from tay

you gotta understand that tay is a perfect example of an ai being a reflection of its environment

[true quest]

yeah, humanity

[astral haven]

not as a whole
just a select adversarially motivated few

[pale sigil]

@wheat plume my biggest gripe with the deck

Every damn time I boot it there are a million updates

Even if I legit restart

[sharp badger]

Thought it would be the glare lol

[wheat plume]

Yeah
It syncs cloud saves and downloads any precached shaders if new ones are available

[pale sigil]

Doesn't bother me that much but also that's on my lap facing the sun

XD

[sharp badger]

I've seen some Screen protectors help with that though

[pale sigil]

Ye, tbh I don't use it in situations that it matters, it was a teeny but annoying on the way to my aunt's with the sun but the brightness helped

The covers ruin colours or something I heard

[sharp badger]

Also touch might be affected too depends on the Protector

[pale sigil]

I never use touch

[thick elk]

Steam deck just isn't bright enough for outdoor use yea

[pale sigil]

My touch is fucked with my current protector anyway

[thick elk]

works fine on mine with a protctor

[wheat plume]

is there a setting to get better sensitivity with a protector on?]

I swear it has in Display settings

[old marlin]

How dare companies have margins

Afaik they wanna rebrand

[old gulch]

I mean Cerapad isn’t saying shit

[old marlin]

So they prob wanna get rid of old stock

[old gulch]

Lil better there

If we fell for them over skypad they’d win a Semrush award :p

shipping dollars heavier than actual cargo

I mean since they’re skypad, could’ve mugged my wallet if they said the mousepad was a solidified cloud

Maybe sales could go up, if they taped the bottom of a few together or bought power saws

More sizes

Is skypad really such a trend

Or have human panelbeaters been hired

And nobody’s doing 1000s of pads a day

Do they have an actual name or off-brand

[old gulch]

Thought you meant random cloth ones

[true quest]

so is that a no or

[old gulch]

just spray paint the bottom or smth

Isn’t that how they did the aimlab version

Where mould

Me puny eyesight

Further cursed

my chunks can’t finish loading

• ||No humour of any kind intended||

[final flame]

just get something custom from inked gaming

a lot cheaper than a overblown hype company

oh glass

[fickle ore]

Why glass when marble exists?

[rough osprey]

razer glass is best atm or

from what I've heard

[fickle ore]

glass is ass

[true quest]

so better glass pad atm is

[empty wren]

Your mom's windshield

Yes but you gotta understand windshields typically never have tint

The fractures will help tracking

[fickle ore]

genious

used windshields best current glass mats

[empty wren]

For good reason

You mean the sun cover?

[true quest]

driving in mexico be like

[fickle ore]

just leave it in the rain outside kek

[severe phoenix]

https://boilingsteam.com/steam-deck-launches-in-stores-in-japan-full-coverage/

[wheat plume]

OOOOO KOMODO WAS FAST DAMN!!

[severe phoenix]

Yeah people lined up around the block apparently.

[wheat plume]

aw ;-;

no photos of the retail box

unless its the same as the box you get from Valve directly

[severe phoenix]

https://boilingsteam.com/wp-content/uploads/shelf-576x1024.jpg

Is this not it?

[wheat plume]

that looks like a game disc case

[severe phoenix]

I mean the price tags match

We can't see it from the side

[wheat plume]

I assume its the same box...

[ashen spindle]

wouldn't make sense to be anything but a retail box when it advertises the capacity?

[wheat plume]

that a game CD case

you can see the shelves are not deep on the bottom shelf

Maybe its a thing like they do for other game consoles, you go to the counter with this case and then you pay and get the real box

cause the regular retail box is literally a cardboard box :P with some nice decoration and art on it, but basically a cardboard box

[astral haven]

where i worked previously we used cards, but the point is to not have these hyper expensive and often rather limited quantity items on the shelves

oh no the cards had like a plastic sleeve that you slipped the printout into lol

[soft coyote]

YOOOOOOOO lets go! Finally Japan gonna go crazy with that thing.

[severe phoenix]

https://www.aliexpress.us/item/3256804664651732.html?spm=a2g0o.home.15002.4.1ecc2145CBF4c2&gps-id=pcJustForYou&scm=1007.13562.333647.0&scm_id=1007.13562.333647.0&scm-url=1007.13562.333647.0&pvid=2a31c2ba-430e-4058-b543-e76760babc12&_t=gps-id:pcJustForYou,scm-url:1007.13562.333647.0,pvid:2a31c2ba-430e-4058-b543-e76760babc12,tpp_buckets:668%232846%238108%231977&pdp_npi=3%40dis!USD!129.58!64.79!!!!!%402101eac916828294805443229ed429!12000030743159403!rec!US!4234888169&curPageLogUid=wDcmz6e7jeeq

G Pro X for 65$~ or so

https://www.reddit.com/r/MouseReview/comments/1337nvv/70_gpx_aka_bullshit_king_ii_on_aliexpress/

People posting it's legit

But the listing is getting tricky, mistaking G pro and G Pro X

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kiTngvvD5dI