People are settling for shit audio
#🔌│tech
boreal horizon
People are settling for convenience. Wireless earbuds sound good enough
boreal horizon
I'll never switch back to wired headphones or earbuds
I had my planar headphones and everything.
had my schiit stack with Sundaras
ashen spindle
the recent gigabyte ones all have it built in, or did you mean a standalone switch
boreal horizon
sold for Steelseries Arctis Pros and I don't regret it one bit
cursive summit
sold for Steelseries Arctis Pros and I don't regret it one bit
???
What the fuck
I mean if that's what turns you on then, whatever
But man that's an incredibly unpopular opinion
boreal horizon
Don't think so at all! Most people that use wireless headphones will never switch to wired ones
cursive summit
Most people will not buy wireless headphones
Wireless earbuds, yes
Not headphones
boreal horizon
Have you seen how popular the common gaming wireless headsets are?
cursive summit
And what does that have to do with wireless headphones
boreal horizon
Like the A50s from Astro, Steelseries Arctis Pros?
People usually don't buy multiple headphones. They use a gaming one for everything 
cursive summit
And then switch to a proper wired one once they realize that wireless gaming ones are absolute trash
fair gull
the recent gigabyte ones all have it built in, or did you mean a standalone swit...
i need a standalone one... i dont have anything gigabyte anyway
need to somehow switch kbm and hdmi+DP between 2 machines
ashen spindle
ah thought you might meant monitors that have kvm built in
boreal horizon
But they don't. Can you show me anyone?
I can only show you people that switched from wired ones to wireless and will never switch back.
The convenience is just superior
cursive summit
But they don't. Can you show me anyone?
I can only show you people that switched...
Actually, a whole lot that came here for audio advice 
ashen spindle
then the only one I know is the level1techs one but thats not cheap
frozen ingot
wireless isn't bad if done right
I've worked with recording studio equipment of various types and price points since around 2006, and built/upgraded my fair share of stuff, I'm not oblivious to what is good audio quality or not
and modern quality BT listening gear does not fall short on the listening experience for the vast majority
however some devices will still struggle to maintain a good signal integrity in bidirectional use cases
but how often are you talking on the phone or whatever and trying listening to music at the same time
sharp badger
https://www.pcgamer.com/for-those-about-to-game-on-a-238-inch-1440p-monitor-i-salute-you/ For those that are looking for small monitors 🤔
cursive summit
24" is way too smol
But that's still, not as small as it gets
You can get 17" laptop like ones for desktop usage
wheat plume
severe phoenix
final flame
But they don't. Can you show me anyone?
I can only show you people that switched...
I own a Corsair Virtuoso and guess what headphone I'm using constantly, a HD6xx, gaming headsets sound are all mediocre for the most part and trash at worst
I also don't use true wireless buds when I'm out despite me owning a pair, I use a dap and a iem
ashen spindle
ashen spindle
yeah all cnc articles are good, albeit often too technical for me to understand all parts haha
thick elk
Same, often the best way to read it for me to treat part of it as a black box
Still they do require some focus reading.
thick elk
?
gusty kiln
hopefully that mean the 7800XT is coming soon
7800XT rumored to basically be 6950XT performance
vagrant pagoda
7800XT rumored to basically be 6950XT performance
but at what price
gusty kiln
yeah that's the big question
dunno if the rest of AMD line is monolithic die
or multi-die
with 7900XT sometimes being 770, 500 for 7800XT would be decent
crimson wigeon
Alright who moved this channel again
vagrant pagoda
lmao
reef patrol
Might have been me. Forgot to disable all channels.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MoGKwig8dwU
Also oh no. Danish LTT content 😄
Don't ever tell me FedEx and co. suck 😄
vagrant pagoda
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MoGKwig8dwU
Also oh no. Danish LTT content 😄
he got wooden socks and sandles?
dusk spire
bruh
reef patrol
Yeah... I am ashamed to say I've done worse.
Not only did we ship built PCs in their PC case boxes. We did not use that expandable foam. Literally just prayed computers would arrive with the GPU screwed in and floating.
reef patrol
Maybe 1 in the two years I worked there? Twenty stores.
barren fable
reef patrol
But to be fair we generally shipped 1060 based PCs or less.
dusk spire
ah gotcha
reef patrol
So many "gaming PCs with literally no GPU and just the Ryzen APUs"
dusk spire
still 1 or 2 is better than i thought for having no extra support
considering us shipping companies at least like to play basketball with packages
thick elk
Not all blame falls on shipping companies, accidents happen, this is a special case though.
dusk spire
yep i consider myself lucky ive never had anything arrive broken
tribal dirge
That’s quite unfortunate
thick elk
Dutch ones seem to be reasonably respectful with packages in general.
tribal dirge
If you want to see what good PC packaging looks like, look at Maingear.
thick elk
Though I do know of a case where my dad bought wine and one of the boxes broke, the delivery guy definitely did not even try to deliver that one to us.
thick elk
Well doesn't matter to us, it clearly never got delivered, so it was the store's problem
dusk spire
fair enough
thick elk
I am pretty sure that is simply calculated in when shipping boxes of wine (with no extra protection)
But the fact that generally works out fine does tell me the system works reasonably well here.
severe phoenix
Do people know you're not supposed to ship liquids?
thick elk
Works fine within the country most of the time.
pale sigil
wheat plume
OOOO GIMME <#
severe phoenix
I miss Windows XP
thick elk
Alternatively firefox displays them nicely
thick elk
So basically discord doesn't animate them when linked, hmm maybe I should turn off animations altogether, they are kind of distracting.
severe phoenix
Holo definitely one of the best
Even if her novels are sleep worthy
The light novels are incredibly boring, I read the first 10 or so. They hugged once.
lol
Like the anime is good and all, I like the economics stuff
But in the novel format
MY god is it dry
To read hundreds of pages about medieval economics
And the characters barely progressing
thick elk
Never bothered to watch / read it. The economics stuff sounds interesting at least.
Then again I hardly ever watch anime and manga are even more rare for me
severe phoenix
It's smart to be sure, but it's one of those things better adapted in anime
Death Note is good manga. But it is a -great- anime.
The anime adapts everything of the Manga, but does it at a much better pace, plus the music and animations really help get it going
thick elk
So far the only manga I really read in the past 5 years or so was Dorohedoro, great manga, anime okay but less good.
Manga OST is also much better than the one from the anime.
wheat plume
Spice & Wolf: Come for the wolf girl waifu, stay for the economics lessons and love scandals
this plugin is so tempting to install
but I dont wanna risk my account
thick elk
It's also not very japanese that ost: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yhQQ57N-9ys&list=PL0GUyZLkx0BP6SAV-ZRsctdyQXA-7cy83&index=9
severe phoenix
Some of the best anime are not very Japanese 😛
thick elk
No but having a manga ost is rare, having one with almost no japanese artists is even rarer
wheat plume
Split Pane view in File Explorer when?
We finally got tabs even though you cant detach or attach them .-.
thick elk
I'd say in about 10-20 years or so
wheat plume
ye ;-;
Micrsoft (A few years ago): Windows 10 is the last version of Windows, it's just going to be called Windows from now on
Microsoft (now): made Windows 11
wheat plume
I do like the Mica theming
Yeah, same here
but there is a mix of all the previous UI styles too ;-;
so its a jarring mess
thick elk
I feel like windows has larger problems than just some UI inconsistencies.
wheat plume
for sure
ashen spindle
11 basically is just 10
wheat plume
yep, which is basically 7
ashen spindle
yeah so whatever the number doesnt matter, same keys, you can just upgrade, same thing in the end
wheat plume
if the graphics drivers crash you see the windows 7 window decorations
thick elk
Most important change for 11 is that the number indicates a breaking with compatibility and enforcing tpm2.
ashen spindle
if its called 11 or win10 22h3
wheat plume
I love this freaking theme
thick elk
At the very least I am glad we could move past the needing to support old internet explorer because older versions of windows were still used and internet explorer didn't get updated stage.
severe phoenix
My only issue with BetterDiscord is it breaking so frequently
wheat plume
another scam .-.
severe phoenix
Became annoying to have to manually update it
wheat plume
My only issue with BetterDiscord is it breaking so frequently
o?
severe phoenix
You'll see.
wheat plume
hhmm
thick elk
Personally mostly use the browser version, would be great if there was a better discord version for that
Still, if I wanted to style things I can
wheat plume
🤔
marsh swallow
True
wheat plume
replies look interesting with this theme
idk if I like the message I am replying to being just on the background color
wheat plume
LOL
crisp granite
🤔
incorrect
now I need to see the video though
clickbait works, surprisingly enough
...I don't mean to be the normal person in the room
but this doesn't show apple fans to be "brain damaged"
but just how uninformed the masses actually are to think that a sideloaded app is magically dangerous
no shit it could be, but you're the one sideloading apps
just...don't install dangerous shit xD
wheat plume
^
ashen spindle
so its the usual bad video using clickbait to show dumb people that every fancamp has
stirring up the pot even more for nor eason
wheat plume
Lemme guess
The best one isn't going to be a gaming brand
wheat plume
Ikr!
Who'd'a'thunk'it?!
wheat plume
Huh?
wheat plume
What about the 4gb?
empty wren
I mean that one seems okay
Since you get 2 gb more
But it would be mighty nice to see that $150
Anyways pis can be had still
Msrp
If you watch it closely can get the pi you want
Sometimes might have to order via different country
Though if you are smart
There are alternatives they do require a bit more effort the load the software you want of course
storm wasp
where can I but he switches?
crisp granite
where can I but he switches?
wooting sells them on their site
fair gull
wooting sells them on their site
they are put of stock at the moment 😛
blazing pecan
Figured something out and I copped 😎
wheat plume
iPhones have to allow sideloading in the EU now
fuk yeah
(yes, im only watching that video I linked now)
vagrant pagoda
Until you can actually do it Apple doesn't have to do it
cursive summit
I am very unfamiliar with this issue, but it seems like either 7800X3D has problems, or Asus/Gigabyte motherboards are dangerous for AM5
ashen spindle
I rather wait on GN since they use the same lab as the 12vhpwr plug than igor who has been on a false lead streak for multiple things now
cursive summit
Also, might just be me, but I kind of been looking down on Igor since RTX adaptor issue
His lashing out on "YouTubers" or whatever he said was just sad
Not to mention he was wrong
ashen spindle
then again nothing to look down on if he literally just provides a superposition to fin the pins based on the info without finding a conclusion since evidence is lacking
cursive summit
What's Igor's background? Journalism?
He seems to pose as a fairly authoritative figure on engineering problems
ashen spindle
engineering at psu company and such
cursive summit
fair gull
engineering at psu company and such
was he? his linked in doesnt state so https://www.linkedin.com/in/wallossek?originalSubdomain=de
ashen spindle
idk I thought to remember before he did the german version of toms he was working in that area
vagrant pagoda
Lmao
P1 is lighter
Plus I have the case fans
The run at minimum speed 90% of the time
Only the GPU really gets them going
But they cap out at around 35%
gusty kiln
you started buying components for your upgrade yet?
vagrant pagoda
Mah
I need to do GPU first
I have 1080ti sli
Just getting a new GPU could cut power in half lol
gusty kiln
4070 is actually pretty attractive for that
vagrant pagoda
Yeah but cooler size
ashen spindle
4090 liquid cooler and just use a passive thing to cool the water
vagrant pagoda
Rads aren't great passive
Plus I'd have to mount the rads where.fans are
I thought about 4090.under volted lol
One of the giant coolers
But 4080 noctua looks like my best option
As the shroud is super easy to remove to expose the fin stack
gusty kiln
Just feels bad spending 4090 money on a 4080
vagrant pagoda
Yeah but like quiet
cursive summit
I rather wait on GN since they use the same lab as the 12vhpwr plug than igor wh...
"The burned-out 7800X3D & board from reddit will arrive to us shortly. It will take us a few days to do initial research. We are working with the same failure analysis lab that did the 12VHPWR cable -- that'll take longer. Might split into two videos depending on findings. We are making this the #1 priority this week, but certain things can't go any faster. Shipping from the user is one of those, shipping to the FA lab is another. But in between, we can likely get enough info to run an initial analysis. The FA stuff will be super cool though! I'd really prefer to combine them all into one video, it's just the internet tends to move on quickly and full failure analysis lab inspection + transit will take some time."
vagrant pagoda
I wish someone would show if 7900 and 6900 have same hole spacing
gusty kiln
Why?
gusty kiln
I doubt they'll be the same with the move to multi-die
but GN have done a tear down and they usually do rough measurements
ashen spindle
could look at the techpowerup teardown that they put on a measurement paper
gusty kiln
both reference models look quite different
vagrant pagoda
So is a 3090 ti but the core+memory plate fits both 6900xt and 3090ti
astral haven
Neat
https://www.kitguru.net/components/cpu/leo-waldock/4th-gen-intel-xeon-w9-3495x-its-a-monster/3/
The good news:
The bad news:
crisp granite
dang
wheat plume
Wtf is wrong with my discord
wheat plume
Xr
vagrant pagoda
Neat
https://www.kitguru.net/components/cpu/leo-waldock/4th-gen-intel-xeon-w9-34...
how that cinebench is bad
zen 4 is going to decimate it
vagrant pagoda
https://www.kitguru.net/wp-content/uploads/2023/04/38-Gaming-SotTR-1440p-2-1024x...
this is the ugly
5950x to 7950x is a 68% jump in R23
with a 60% increase in power
astral haven
how that cinebench is bad
The bad part is it draws 500w for that score...
vagrant pagoda
yeah
astral haven
If it were uh
200w then heck yeah get rekt amd
And the only good news is that it's extremely coolable
Lowest temp on the chart despite being the highest power usage (stock) is pretty good
vagrant pagoda
Lowest temp on the chart despite being the highest power usage (stock) is pretty...
its on cutom loop water
TR pro is on air
astral haven
They used the same graph for air vs loop?
vagrant pagoda
the OC is water year
astral haven
Sauce?
vagrant pagoda
the video
the stock is air though
so youre right
the OC is on water
so it isnt just 53 vs 61
there is no way the noctua would handly 513w that cool
astral haven
It's 53 vs 60
vagrant pagoda
im talking stock vs oc
astral haven
🤷♂️ I'm talking stock vs stock
The 56 core is probably not a good oc candidate
24 core probably a lot better
vagrant pagoda
yeah
but a zen4 tr pro would be the same power as the 56c
but a massive jump in perfomace
gusty kiln
any of the TR going to use V-cache?
gusty kiln
64 cores with v-cache would be a spicy nuggest
vagrant pagoda
64 cores with v-cache would be a spicy nuggest
only 64?
gusty kiln
for higher clock speed
vagrant pagoda
genoa is all about that 96 core life
gusty kiln
I know it goes up to 96
gusty kiln
astral haven
Unfortunately tho the highest cache cpu is gonna be limited to 96mb accessible
astral haven
for a ton more power
And a ton more power isn't really an option for these CPUs...
astral haven
Not for amd
vagrant pagoda
yeah
milan tapped out at 280w, genoa tops at 400w
same for ryzen
way more power for way more performance
wheat plume
https://youtube.com/shorts/omQNitWFh-c
Rip SD card slot also
astral haven
I'm not expecting amd to have an answer for the 2400 series at least price wise for the io
But that would be an excuse to bring back tr non pro
vagrant pagoda
yeah
thats what im hoping for
how fast 7950x is vs the rest of the stack
bodes well for tr
astral haven
vagrant pagoda
but TR is faster
astral haven
And a lot more expensive and not overclockable
vagrant pagoda
also i dislike that puget included 13th gen and not ryzen 7000
astral haven
Do they even have 7000 yet?
vagrant pagoda
wut
final flame
Puget specs their systems depending on how it performs with certain applications
vagrant pagoda
TR pro 24c is $2400, SR 2495 is $2200
vagrant pagoda
Do they even have 7000 yet?
7950x?
astral haven
They do
They just left them off the graphs
finite vale
vagrant pagoda
also z790e sage is 1300, wrx80e sage is 1100
and tr pro is still ddr4 so ram is cheaper
the 5965WX is a cheaper setup
astral haven
Z790 ace is 800
vagrant pagoda
that out performs the 2495x
vagrant pagoda
Z790 ace is 800
cant run SR in that
final flame
Apparently Macy's sells Sennheiser products tf
https://www.macys.com/shop/product/sennheiser-hd-650-open-back-professional-headphone?ID=15061840&experience=responsive&pdpserver=internal&experience=responsive&pdpserver=internal
astral haven
Big difference is the CPUs are half the price
final flame
@gusty kiln
vagrant pagoda
Sorry w790 ace
the ace is less equpiped though
vagrant pagoda
there is literally $300 worth of nics between the sage and ace
final flame
Just gonna go buy me a 800s from Macy's
gusty kiln
astral haven
the ace is less equpiped though
Nope it's actually more equipped for 2400
8 dimms instead of 4
astral haven
Yeah if you buy the wrong board it's worse pmao
vagrant pagoda
Yeah if you buy the wrong board it's worse pmao
again
astral haven
there is literally $300 worth of nics between the sage and ace
And wdym both have dual 10g
vagrant pagoda
the TR pro beats the 2400 and 3400 24g
the ac is only single 10g
and its Aquitania
my bad
marvell
both SAGE have dual 10G intel
astral haven
Yes
astral haven
10+2.5
astral haven
Allegedly it has amt
astral haven
But not confirmed
vagrant pagoda
went to the pdf
it has IPMI
but again
the 24c 3400 looses to the 24C TR pro in most productivity
astral haven
Again tr pro is double the price
astral haven
3400 has way faster io
vagrant pagoda
only if you have 5.0 devices
vagrant pagoda
Wait no
Over 50%
huh?
vagrant pagoda
64+16
astral haven
It's 32 core tr vs 24c 2400 for the same perf
vagrant pagoda
It's 32 core tr vs 24c 2400 for the same perf
no
its only 15% faster, the 32c TR is much faster than the 24c SR
astral haven
Ok now I'm getting confused
vagrant pagoda
also
the 24C TR Pro is faster in some workloads too
In general, while the new Xeon W-2400 series is a giant leap in the right direction for Intel, they at best are only able to match AMD’s Threadripper PRO CPUs, and in some areas, still have more work to do before they are a viable option
so the brand new cpu cant beat last years cpu that cost the same
so unless you need pcie 5 there isnt any benefit from the 2400 series for workstation
now you can overclock that brand new cpu to beat amds last gen
big deal
astral haven
Yes the hope was for gaming perf
1k for overclockable p core only platform with the option to steal server ram later
astral haven
But actually atrocious io
astral haven
And no EWaste ram support in 3 years
vagrant pagoda
and workstion perf
astral haven
Zero ecc
vagrant pagoda
am5 has ecc
astral haven
Nope
vagrant pagoda
yes it dose
astral haven
Well
It doesn't support ECC ram
astral haven
Ooh
Shame it's unobtanium and inordinately expensive
And won't be used in any servers bc 5v
vagrant pagoda
And won't be used in any servers bc 5v
?
vagrant pagoda
Ooh
Shame it's unobtanium and inordinately expensive
its the same price as most single ddr5 32GB sticks
astral haven
Since when?
astral haven
It's 100 for a 64gb kit lmao
astral haven
But it's still not gonna be able to steal ram from decommissioned servers
Far as I know the only platform that supports 5v true ECC ddr5 is am5
Epyc, spr both are 12v
And so far the only ECC binned kits are 12v for spr
Regardless the step up from 7950x is 2475x
And the being cooler may allow it to overclock like mad
And the lack of glue should help gaming perf a ton
The 3175x was actually insane for gaming
obsidian palm
https://www.msi.com/Motherboard/PRO-B650-P-WIFI/Specification can this mobo handle 2 gpus and 2 capture cards?
severe phoenix
cobalt plaza
wheat plume
Oh gosh
What now???
astral haven
https://www.msi.com/Motherboard/PRO-B650-P-WIFI/Specification can this mobo hand...
Depends on the GPUs and depends on the capture cards
Likely fine for 1080p capture, definetly a stretch for 4k
Probably fine for a GPU just for encoding or a second monitor
Not for multimonitor gaming
ashen spindle
youtuber making yet another clickbait? D:
gusty kiln
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/UVqHFVmjB3Q
are they meant to be rugged or is he just memeing?
@final flame
astral haven
final flame
<@357641534109122563>
nah, just the average iem
frozen ingot
the tasty irony of this twitter literally removed any disclaimers on media accounts about state affiliation and the likes
so now its harder to distinguish what might be truthful or unbiased or not
great job elon as always
astral haven
Among others
frozen ingot
at this point you need to be willfully ignorant to not acknowledge elon musk is a compulsive bullshitter
astral haven
I'm sure the happiest about this situation are fox
They need some good news for their misinformation campaign after having to settle with dominion
Wait no longer
He just quit
I don't believe for a second that he will just retire peacefullu
frozen ingot
infowars would probably recruit him if it wasn't for them being sued to oblivion as well 
gusty kiln
definitely more fun than season 2
astral haven
@ashen spindle
excuse me what
since when can 10th gen igpu handle 4k240???
also intel you absolute cretins, why cant you let me change av range manually
ooh dear this lappy is working hard to run the monitor jeez
halcyon moss
shadow minnow
<@150712028217081866>
excuse me what
since when can 10th gen igpu handle 4k240?...
DSC
ashen spindle
<@150712028217081866>
excuse me what
since when can 10th gen igpu handle 4k240?...
lol, according to intel it can only do 4k60 lol
ashen spindle
I mean its not about that its about them saying the physical hardware on the igpu cant do that because its just dp 1.2 lol
that doesnt have dsc
severe phoenix
reef patrol
cursive summit
crimson wigeon
Nice
ashen spindle
same thing as der8auers video that was posted above but once again it;s not "root cause identified" but more a likely effect noticed
vagrant pagoda
severe phoenix
Accurate
vagrant pagoda
The glue was a nice touch
gusty kiln
Regular z1 not bad for lighter games
Wonder what is the price delta with the extreme
vagrant pagoda
no power figures?
gusty kiln
Since the charts says engineering projections, I think a lot of the specs aren't finalized
Minusforum must be salivating to make these into gaming mini PCs
gusty kiln
Yeah, non-x zen 4 cpus are really efficient
gusty kiln
Might be close cousins
ashen spindle
yeah ik just was the only W part I saw and was somewhat related
gusty kiln
I would say 7845HX performance at 30w
And damn
I thought the 13980hx would compete
But it gets recked
vagrant pagoda
nah
ashen spindle
different memory system are also a thing
gusty kiln
Zen 4 scale better with power
vagrant pagoda
intels big little is better for general use or lightly threaded
gusty kiln
Oh
vagrant pagoda
different memory system are also a thing
?
ashen spindle
lpddr/lpddrx vs ddr4/5
so same cores as a 13900k but has other things that are different and thus dont scale the exact same
vagrant pagoda
Maximum Turbo Power 157 W
shadow minnow
That seems to be about laptops
ashen spindle
yeah uhd620 should only have dp1.2 which doesnt have dsc
astral haven
That seems to be about laptops
Ah yes my 1065g7 tablet isn't a laptop
shadow minnow
Ohh
gusty kiln
Maximum Turbo Power 157 W
Chungus power adapter
astral haven
The modern 230w boiz are pretty small
ashen spindle
the igpu in non laptop parts dont have different io so laptop/deskop doesnt matter
for the uhd620 at least afaik
astral haven
Except ice lake isn't available in desktop
vagrant pagoda
desktop dosent have edp
astral haven
Laptop only besides nucs
ashen spindle
but isnt ice lake using the same iris version as comet lake?
astral haven
desktop dosent have edp
That's also not correct
astral haven
but isnt ice lake using the same iris version as comet lake?
No ice lake was the first of the new architecture
It was most of double the perf of previous gen
ashen spindle
oh so iris was the first xe igpu or was that just plus and regular iris was uhd rebrand? I dont remember at all because its so messy
astral haven
Pre rebrand but yeah it was basically the first trials of the new team
ashen spindle
but either way, 4k240 is still lots more than the max of 3200@60 that it allegedly can do lol for eDP
astral haven
Dp and edp support are allegedly the same
ashen spindle
did you check if it actually does it though or is it just misreporting lol
ashen spindle
interresting
astral haven
Also adaptive sync is on in monitor settings, doesn't mean it's active
ashen spindle
was about to ask if it maybe just sync it down all the time haha
astral haven
Igpu is too slow to sync testufo
Ffs
Managed to capture a snapshot between the stutter warnings after turning down to 1 strip lmao
ashen spindle
can it run something simple like unlocked cmd at those framerates for more than a second lol
astral haven
Dunno
It very much can't run the frame skipping check
Gtg to work tho
Also the crazy part is this is through a USB c hub
I mean the hub does specify it supports that but still
ashen spindle
maybe they just wired up some dp 1.3 connection and it just goes above limit lol
astral haven
ashen spindle
oh so it might just show what the adapter can do and doesnt properly read out from the input device lol
astral haven
Managed to capture a snapshot between the stutter warnings after turning down to...
Nah this combined with windows thinking it's 4k240 means the signal is going through
And it's very obvious that it's not 120 or lower
ashen spindle
maybe they just never validated the igpu for more but they put faster standards on it?
astral haven
Yeah but adding Dsc to a computer isn't as easy as snapping your fingers
ashen spindle
maybe they did add DSC originally but it had issues and they decided to just keep the design and limit it?
idk how the footprint for hdmi/dp connection varies between generations ona chip
astral haven
They specified...
ashen spindle
well yeah but if they planned to add it earlier, it had issues but you can limit it, it might be the same way to put transistors on it and cut something off and that can sometimes not limit it properly or so was my guess
astral haven
Regardless of how it happened it's a pleasant surprise
ashen spindle
@astral haven is it 4:4:4 or 4:2:0?
ashen spindle
astral haven
Gtg to work tho
too late
ashen spindle
yeye for later
astral haven
4k240 is outright impossible for dp1.4 without dsc tho
no chroma subsampling will help you there
with hbr2 you can do dsc + 422 to fit it in but both required
hbr3 only requires dsc but cant fit in just 420
ashen spindle
I assume i can post this in another discord to see if someone knows?
cursive summit
Man I love having a proper good antivirus
Can't even watch anime without catching some shit
frozen ingot
anime is the virus
ashen spindle
that does only say its something that can be used not that it is something though?
cursive summit
I don't really do net surfing anymore
Anyone know if javascript trojans still an issue?
I do remember falling for a website that tried to install shit on the PC once via js
gusty kiln
Imagine not using stremio for watching stuff
Granted still have to be careful on which torrent link to use
cursive summit
Tf is streamio
gusty kiln
Like netflix but with torrents
cursive summit
People download stuff that isn't software???
gusty kiln
Needs a bit of setup though
final flame
People download stuff that isn't software???
Lmao yes
cursive summit
Like, mates, the gods have blessed us with the internet and streaming
You don't have to have the thing on your hard drive
gusty kiln
It's just aggregate and have a nice GUI
cursive summit
I refuse to download media
gusty kiln
It doesn't go on your hard drive
final flame
Torrents die, Even quicker when they are less popular media
astral haven
You don't have to have the thing on your hard drive
thats the point of torrent streaming lol
gusty kiln
It just streams the torrent
gusty kiln
It literally behaves like netflix
cursive summit
Ehh
astral haven
so that you can stream the torrent whats the complicated part?
cursive summit
Meh, I have my websites
gusty kiln
Kek websites
final flame
Can't even watch anime without catching some shit
What website even is this lol
cursive summit
9anime
final flame
Are you using the real one
cursive summit
Of course
gusty kiln
Vpn+stremio = steam literally anything you want
cursive summit
.to
astral haven
i stream my anime from google drive
cursive summit
Prob a hidden hyperlink or something
Ads
final flame
Personally never had a issue with 9anime.to but I also have ublock to block all that crap
cursive summit
Ads are just cancerous on TV
PC it's just adblocked
But on TV they are intrusive af
gusty kiln
i stream my anime from google drive
Doesn't Google sometime randomly ban people with copyrighted content?
final flame
Yea
astral haven
yup
but it aint on my drive so 🤷
astral haven
"public" shared drives
astral haven
Basically plex sharing but on Google
yep
the one problem is that most video players really really really dont like playing from google drive lmao cant imagine why
final flame
The only way they'll ban you I'm pretty sure is if you're distributing it
astral haven
which im not
but the person im getting it from is so...
final flame
Linking the content and gets high enough traffic to be noticed
gusty kiln
Which do you guys prefer, MPC or VLC?
astral haven
mpv best
gusty kiln
reef patrol
I really don't like VLC's interface or file handling. So I've always defaulted to MPC HC and now that it's no longer updated MPC BC
final flame
With madvr
gusty kiln
Maybe I should try other players
final flame
Vlc has issues with rendering subtitles especially complex .ass ones
gusty kiln
Sometimes I get random movies in wmv files format and mpc struggles with seeking
final flame
Pot player has the best features when it comes to video rendering and automatically loading files in a playlist
Potplayer has never once messed up auto adding everything in order by episode
gusty kiln
Oh yeah, anime watcher should love the upscaling on rtx 4000
astral haven
only vlc has that for now
final flame
You have to tweak the settings ofc
astral haven
as in it doesnt work on livestreams
ashen spindle
that reminds me I need to update driver and see if upscaling works for me now
final flame
I think that may be due to the player just not using madvr as the renderer for Livestreams
astral haven
🤷
final flame
Madvr also has more accurate colors compared to opengl
astral haven
hovering over with a color checker they are the same 🤷
final flame
They simply aren't, open both into chrome or another browser and use shift tab and swap between them
astral haven
🤷 also how do you know which one is more "accurate"
final flame
The one with more natural colors
astral haven
🤷 and its not just your monitor?
final flame
I'll run more complex tests if I have time
astral haven
looking at major features of the image they are all the exact same colors
gusty kiln
I honestly never cared about natural colors. I've been running my monitor stock out of the box rather than the sRGB mode.
final flame
sRgb modes aren't exactly natural or accurate, the only thing they're accurate to is the sRGb color space
astral haven
the high frequency detail i can confirm is different colors however is it actually different colors or is it just sharpening artifacts changing the brightness
final flame
sRgb color modes limit the color space of the monitor to sRgb compared to what the actual potential of the monitor
sRgb covers nowhere near the visible spectrum of color we can view so they're not exactly accurate
astral haven
sorta
the actual color space itself doesnt
however if your content is srgb, then the monitor perfectly mapping to the color space makes it accurate if unpleasant to look at
gusty kiln
final flame
Personally the most accurate modes tend to be under the name "movie or film mode"
gusty kiln
Well either way I steam most of my content through stremio so I'm at the mercy of the torrent file and the built in video player
final flame
Generally, but that can vary from monitor brand
astral haven
Personally the most accurate modes tend to be under the name "movie or film mode...
not on monitors lol
i mean if you define accuracy as "as saturated as the monitor is physically able to get without blowing anything out"
gusty kiln
Yass, inject the oversaturated colors right into my retinas
astral haven
monitors arent able to display enough depth of color to saturate our eyes
final flame
A fully saturated red should be a fully saturated red
astral haven
A fully saturated red should be a fully saturated red
thats a valid opinion but thats not accurate
astral haven
<@126850798666645504>
yea no thanks
ace or asrock thanks
gusty kiln
Kek
final flame
Then why don't you tell me what's "accurate"
astral haven
Then why don't you tell me what's "accurate"
low variation between the color displayed and the color called for by the color space
ashen spindle
ashen spindle
so uh, seems like intel documenation is wrong or someone mixed up 11th gen tiger lake with gen11 ice lake lol
astral haven
very likely too
ashen spindle
I think I even saw those slides back then but obviously not something important enough to remember lol
astral haven
Then why don't you tell me what's "accurate"
despite being more saturated and still well spaced, as this isnt what the computer requested, its inaccurate
ashen spindle
did like this conclusion from someone else though lel
astral haven
despite being more saturated and still well spaced, as this isnt what the comput...
its fine to prefer this
i much prefer it myself
but its not at all accurate
final flame
The issue is whether the program actually supports colorspaces, Or if there is a embedded one in the content you're viewing
astral haven
did like this conclusion from someone else though lel
sure but bastard rejects dont usually happen to be tied for supporting the highest bandwidth despite being what 4 years old?
astral haven
The issue is whether the program actually supports colorspaces, Or if there is a...
if it doesnt specify, its srgb
and this is srgb
final flame
You could also interpret accurate as working in a way to where you'll see what the average viewer is seeing
astral haven
which was determined to be srgb...
final flame
Which the average consumer won't have srgb mode enabled on their monitor
astral haven
actually they will
because all monitors natively render in srgb
now will they be inaccurate to that srgb? ofc
but take a bazillion samples, throw out the ones who enabled low blue light mode, and then the average is gonna be srgb
pseudo sedge
Is it just me or dose the wooting software not open on start up?
astral haven
Is it just me or dose the wooting software not open on start up?
#1019755933959733258 probably
reef patrol
Is it just me or dose the wooting software not open on start up?
Correct. That's by design.
Carmonben should know that after this long 😄
pseudo sedge
Okay thank you I was just wondering I thought I broke something
wheat plume
webtility
astral haven
i never installed the software
actually thats not true, i just uninstalled it a few years back when the web version came out
astral haven
Carmonben should know that after this long 😄
but yea mansen you forget that im the one with the wireless charging pad that means i cant daily the wooting 😦
reef patrol
astral haven
i should just bring it to work tbh
lol
or do you not actually know about the logitech pad
shame 🤷
logitech is the only consumer brand making quality wireless peripherals
1 mouse, .0something
its looooow
but its enough to charge the mouse in about a day of just sitting there
most certainly not
100 standalone 50 bundled (for me)
oop 120 now
these are the mice its compatible with
it also acts as a dongle for the mice and has rgb on the logo because ofc it does
but yea for 120 its steeeeep
i bought it as a bundle for +50, and of that 50, 30 was amazon credit so for $20 was worth for me
vagrant pagoda
<@265691493006573568>
i saw
reef patrol
So... following EU standards.
And Apple are just going to allow it globally anyway. Russia slow.
misty saffron
well they saw that it worked with eu
vagrant pagoda
did they ever get rid of the death wobble?
the time is tried to hover
and oscillated so hard it slammed the rotors together.
cursive summit
@prisma crag Since when are you a woothelper?
I don't even recall you doing support
Also that schnose looks like a carbon copy off a fuckin Kamov 50
I don't see why they need a new helo
U.S has all bases covered as is
Sometimes it just seems U.S likes to throw cash around into projects that they don't need
At least 90% of their fuckin spending are projects that get canned
I appreciate the R&D but fuck me, if you order it, use it
astral haven
ooh the ally has freesync
was that confirmed before?
cursive summit
I dunno if having free sync is such a big thing
ashen spindle
Rumored
ashen spindle
It’s a massive thing what are you talking about
gusty kiln
It's depends on the display not the gpu
ashen spindle
No I mean it was only rumored before this
gusty kiln
Did they say the battery size yet?
astral haven
lol nope
gusty kiln
im now slightly more interested, but still nah cause no tb support
Just spend an extra grand on the gpu dock, ezpz
astral haven
yea my steam deck can last 8 hours of watching videos....
astral haven
Just spend an extra grand on the gpu dock, ezpz
only 1 grand?
i dont want amd...
gusty kiln
astral haven
nreal glasses goated
astral haven
i havent actually tried it to the end i only estimated that based on it losing about 11% in an hour
was watching yt
gusty kiln
Still waiting for dragon quest 12 announcement 
Watching the last episode of picard on the nreal was great. Phasor fire literally was blinding
astral haven
thats a game lol
astral haven
Watching the last episode of picard on the nreal was great. Phasor fire literall...
gotta also remember the nreal glasses are very much not true hdr
gusty kiln
Pretty close
astral haven
battery life advertisement is based on the highest number they can get of actually going something
lol no
i was trying it out 🤷
astral haven
Pretty close
but yea no its nowhere near a true hdr experience
minimum lit brightness is in the .0something nit range and the max brightness is in the 50 range
the only reason it looks good is true black and the fact that everything around it is dimmed
approx 3k:1 true contrast ratio
gusty kiln
Either way it's the best viewing experience in the house
astral haven
also probably not that expensive compared to some of the other stuff relatively speaking
my only problem with it is i get super nauseated by using it for extended periods
high key want a bigscreen but very much dont want to pay for it or get an iphone or have to turn my computer on
gusty kiln
my only problem with it is i get super nauseated by using it for extended period...
Yeah, and the pressure on the nose for me since I don't normally wear glasses
astral haven
thats fine for me since i lay in bed
gusty kiln
high key want a bigscreen but very much dont want to pay for it or get an iphone...
What do you mean by the iphone part?
astral haven
bigscreen needs an iphone to scan your face
astral haven
except its a complete vr headset that just happens to be small
astral haven
its also 2560 square per eye microoled
astral haven
Either that or the amd e-gpu
except its more since i need to buy an iphone too
and i dont want to have to keep my pc on for it
gusty kiln
What is the minimum gen of iphone
wheat plume
but then you miss out on fingerprint scanner
gusty kiln
Those go for around 200-250 used
astral haven
but then you miss out on fingerprint scanner
it literally requires faceid to scan your face for the vr headset
gusty kiln
So 1200 total
gusty kiln
Rokid max looks nice, but they are pretty bare on the software side
astral haven
unusable for text, probably would have the same headtracking issue
gusty kiln
Having eye sight adjustment built in is cool
astral haven
🤷 its not enough to be useable by either of my parents...
astral haven
my mom uses the nreal and doesnt mind the blurry
but its just completely gone for my dad
gusty kiln
Oof
gusty kiln
Chungus
astral haven
nice but screw you canon for locking the lens mount for all your modern cameras so noone can make lenses for them
i recently bought a 5diii
magiclantern is actually awesome
5k 12 bit raw video ||10 fps|| on an 11 year old camera
vagrant pagoda
lmao
15k isnt crazy in a helo
they have landed on top of Everest
15k feet isnt that crazy
the only reason regular tours arent high is passanger comfort
it isnt an issue if you want to go higher
the fliming crews are
by dads done a few doors off over the top
thats my dads boss XD
wheat plume
are you saying you are a weird man, or is this commenting at something that is weird?
vagrant pagoda
are you saying you are a weird man, or is this commenting at something that is w...
yes
wheat plume
yes
cursive summit
"We are aware of a limited number of reports online claiming that excess voltage while overclocking may have damaged the motherboard socket and pin pads. We are actively investigating the situation and are working with our ODM partners to ensure voltages applied to Ryzen 7000X3D CPUs via motherboard BIOS settings are within product specifications. Anyone whose CPU may have been impacted by this issue should contact AMD customer support."
So, still everything remains ambiguous
vagrant pagoda
insurance cost more
cursive summit
Hmm, good news, hopefully https://www.nerd.nintendo.com/files/Job Offer GAMETECH2023 EN.pdf
vagrant pagoda
you ever been in a helo tour?
cursive summit
Nintendo's next console should support "Cross-platform development"
ashen spindle
Nintendo's next console should support "Cross-platform development"
what, where does it mention that
vagrant pagoda
he had a clarke and dawe issue
execpt it was the back that fell off
yeah
yeah
was an odd thing teaching my dad to walk
cursive summit
what, where does it mention that
Unless I'm reading woefully wrong into this
Switch V1, V2 and OLED are all the same platform
Nintendo does not publish their games anywhere else
ashen spindle
how about it makes sure other non inhouse games that are on pc can be put on console
vagrant pagoda
Nintendo does not publish their games anywhere else
they have mobile
ashen spindle
or that
cursive summit
I can only come up with the "cross-platform" being a new Switch platform, that would support older games
Do they have a single game that is on Switch and mobile/PC simultaneously?
ashen spindle
cross platform development in a dev role does not mean some hardware has cross gen features or anything
could literally just mean to be ready for when next gen comes out that current gen games can be ported to it
or mobile, or dev support for tools and games that want to get from another platform onto the switch
cursive summit
Well, we'll see
If Switch 2 will be a callback to the DS/3DS era with dual displays
I can hardly see them porting all games with optimizations
ashen spindle
also research in a field means looking into it, not that something is planned to be shipped already xD
cursive summit
They were working on it
What ze fuck
Did I just travel to the past
I dig the NDS/3DS design though
They did it well
Indeed
Maybe experiment with one of those rollable displays?
Although idk how tf they would price it at 400$
The tech is so new the last device was like 1 grand for that, and it never released
final flame
Nah this is nintento, they take pride in using last gen hardware
cursive summit
Nah this is nintento, they take pride in using last gen hardware
Will they ever break 1 TFLOP, I wonder
Man the Switch is so underpowered that it's sad
final flame
It really is
cursive summit
Would I be wrong in saying that modern and even last gen Snapdragons can render better than Switch?
You know, 888, 860, etc
astral haven
going quite a few years back lmao
vagrant pagoda
fam you can emulate the swtich on modern phones lol
astral haven
^
cursive summit
I guess in Nintendo's defense, back in like 2014 or whenever when they were designing the platform, there was not much better available than the Nvidia's Tegra
astral haven
well the gameboy had significantly better battery than the competition at the time
final flame
Has there ever been a Nintendo console that was on the curve of technology
astral haven
I guess in Nintendo's defense, back in like 2014 or whenever when they were desi...
except for the current models of the switch lol
cursive summit
Has there ever been a Nintendo console that was on the curve of technology
Wii?
Wii was cool
astral haven
Has there ever been a Nintendo console that was on the curve of technology
the wii was ye
final flame
Wii is just a GameCube tho
final flame
The normal
astral haven
the flipper to broadway upgrade was insanely huge what
like sure the cpu wasnt cutting edge but it was faster
cursive summit
I was going to ask, when do we think there will be a new Wii
But then I realized Switch is kinda both handheld and stationary gaming station
So.. Wii is kinda obsolete?
astral haven
yup
obviously
the gamecube and n64 also werent behind the times either
and the wii u was long after radeon was anywhere near the high end
astral haven
the ps2 was janky, and the gamecube was a full year earlier
astral haven
oh i stand corrected, both were in 2000
vagrant pagoda
no GC was 2001
the GC was 100 bucks cheaper
but then in mid 2002 sony dropped ps2 to 199
which caused xbox to do the same
and nintendo to drop the gc to 150
astral haven
ps2 lived a long life of many revisions
cursive summit
ps2 lived a long life of many revisions
Damn, I wonder which I have
All I know is that it's a slim