🔌│tech

[empty wren]

With 6 GB ram

Yeah just you wait

Also check Swappa locke

Why

Oh

You are one of those people

I wish

I had a Pixel 4 XL temporarily

It worked well

But my rog phone 6 has a optical fingerprint scanner

Works well

[crisp granite]

my phone has a password

checkmate, idiots

[empty wren]

Only bad thing is if at night you miss the part where it is it is very bright

Also this is not an issue

Weird

The screenshot never sees the bright light

[empty wren]

I see

I mean I guess notches are not screenshot

Well they were once and it was cool

[reef patrol]

Zoomers. How do you do it. Ive been without a PC for a full day now, and I want to jump in the sea.

I couldn't imagine using a phone for everything. So frustrated with how bad mobile app versions of desktop apps are. And the charging aaaaaah

[old marlin]

"Zoomers"

can't go a day without a computer

[reef patrol]

Zoomers as in smartphone obsessed, "what is a computer" generation.

We're all tech addicted as far as I'm concerned.

[mild dome]

Australian tiktok addicts get picked off by the wildlife

[charred lodge]

I love my pc, especially having multiple monitors, everything big it's just better

[charred lodge]

Tbh I don't mind not having a pc when travelling and on holiday

I'd rather have a handheld console or a steam deck for that

(will be one of my next purchases for sure!)

Aaaa

Dont

That's painful

Yeah when I'm installing stuff I make sure not to give it access to whatever it wishes

@prisma crag do you own a switch?

You think a switch nowadays is still worth it or should I wait for a new release of a handheld from Nintendo

So Ur saying wait

[charred lodge]

Separating your work time from your free time is really important

It brought me to my knees in COVID times

[old marlin]

just never actually work

[charred lodge]

Yeah hall effect sensors are probably not gonna happen

Why that

[old marlin]

idk, without making it chonky like the steamdeck making it comfortable to use for me is basicalyl impossible

joycons feel like child toys to me

[charred lodge]

Fair enough

I used a switch a couple months ago when someone brought it to me and it felt kinda.. small and fragile lol

Well I'm definitely getting a steam deck and screw it I'll install a switch emulator or something I just wanna play botw

I get sick when hearing potentiometer

Ik ye

More beef

Tbh I'd probably prefer very heavy sticks even

Like you should have some variations in how hard it is to move the stick so you can get different levels of control on different games

A racing game player might prefer way heavier sticks as that would make it easier to get a precise input

How about.. making the whole module hotswap

So you can swap between different modules entirely

Then make it wired

💀

Yup

I just want a handheld console man

Bruh

I'll maybe wait for switch 2, is there any kind of information on a drop date?

Bruuuuuuuh

This is so painful

I never was allowed a console when I was like 12-15 my mom thought the Nintendo's were evil

And harmful

Now look where that got me, instead of someone who maybe could benefitted from a bit of "how to safely use games and not get addicted" education you've got me, who spends 95% of his free time on a screen💀 💀

Honestly a shame

Ye I'd want something like the switch or steam deck

Btw money is not the issue here. I just want something high quality high performance

Yeah I agree this is awful

Fair enough

Why not hack it now

Hacking the switch makes you unable to play online?

How do they check?

Yeah wow that's obvious

How about playing those games offline

So they won't know?

Skill issue

I just plugged in my headset and It went up from 9% to 66% instantly

[charred lodge]

It's a new headset, I got it less than a month ago

Just lucky that it's not my private one haha

I unplugged it and it instantly went back to 15%

And then I plugged it back in and it instantly went back up

No clue

It's a Logitech g533 💀

Abolute trash

It sometimes makes some really high pitches noises in the left earcup that are actually quite painful

Unpleasant

Was this?

[cursive summit]

Do not get the Bathys, imo

It has a lot of issues

If you need wireless/wired headphones, Hifiman Deva Pro

Incredibly good sound

Less than half the price of bathys

Deva Pro is one of those dac/amps

Except it's small and plugs into the headphones

Bluemini is cool, and works with any headphones as long as it'd clip on and fit the shape

The headphone is somewhat similar to the HE400se

[charred lodge]

What does it do

[cursive summit]

The bluemini is what makes the thing "wireless"

Plug the little adaptor in, and it becomes wireless

[charred lodge]

I already have a wireless headphone

But thanks

Ur gonna absolutely chase me down

I own a steelseries Artis nova pro wireless

Why? Because it's wireless, can support bluetooth and 2.4ghz connection at the same time and the small dock with an extra battery makes it convenient to charge(never have to charge it actively)

Why repair if you can just send it in for an rma

Although the price was a big ask

[frozen ingot]

to be fair nintendo are major cunts so she wasn't entirely wrong

[charred lodge]

Yeah for the wrong reason tho. A normal consumer just enjoying stuff on like maybe a 3ds wouldn't be so bad

[charred lodge]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1083002781952122971/1095993469924802630/IMG_0557.jpg

I'm gaming

[reef patrol]

[charred lodge]

[wheat plume]

Fucking finally this is added to stock Android

Ring and Notification volumes are finally no longer linked together

[ashen spindle]

Starting to run into space issues lol

[rough osprey]

imagine not having your phone on silent

[wheat plume]

Lol
My phone is happy to tell me I'm connected to 5G
But my 4G was faster than it

4G right
5G left

[ashen spindle]

that looks like its the same

[hot finch]

ive had this on my note though?

[wheat plume]

Why doesn't it let me copy hangul?

I'm trying to copy the entire line end it won't let my

Can't select any of the chorus for this song

[hot finch]

is that youtube music?

[charred lodge]

Yes

[wheat plume]

Yes

[hot finch]

i cant select the lyrics to that song either on my phone

[wheat plume]

But Android 13 has a way to select and highlight text and images on the recent apps screen

Also the option to screenshot the app

[sturdy token]

i think it uses optical character recognition

[wheat plume]

Yeah

And image detection

[sturdy token]

i think it can only detect latin script

[wheat plume]

Seems that way ;_;

[hot finch]

do you have tap to translate on in the google translate app?

[wheat plume]

I don't have the app

I think this overview thing only selects things that match the phone's system language

Wait a second

I can copy from the browser

I guess the app does have an influence over what can get copied... Strange

[hot finch]

yeah maybe youtube just has it blocked since they are technically jsust copying it from lyricfind or genius

[wheat plume]

LyricFind mostly

I know many songs in my playlist dont have lyrics cause LyricFind doesnt have them but Genius does

[wheat plume]

more money on this screenshot than my bank account

[wheat plume]

Yeah.... I dont really mind it tbh but I can see why it sucks if you change those settings multiple times a day

I want them to add a fucking NFC TILE

.-.

so I dont have to dig into settings to turn it on and off

[severe phoenix]

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0B5HKPBNM/ref=dp_cr_wdg_tit_rfb

[cursive summit]

https://www.techradar.com/news/audeze-just-put-90mm-planar-magnetic-drivers-in-new-dollar399-cans-and-i-need-them

Sony's going to have to compete with this, lol

[wheat plume]

is 400 dollars a good price for planar headphones??

[cursive summit]

Same price, far worse driver

Sony man, you dun screwed

[cursive summit]

Yeah that's where the good planars are

[wheat plume]

oo

[cursive summit]

There are solid ones for 150$

HE400

[wheat plume]

interesting

[cursive summit]

Great quality for a cheap planar

[ashen spindle]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[cursive summit]

But yeah Sundara, XS are all really good for 300-500$

I guess now Audeze are making their own "cheap" planar debut

Well, Audeze don't miss, usually

[wheat plume]

you can

but you can

[pale sigil]

You know what would be nice

If airports didn't fucking suck on android

[wheat plume]

Ez

Does your phone not have that toggle?

[pale sigil]

Airports can be used with very limited use

[wheat plume]

Airports :')

[pale sigil]

Ok listen

The beans?

No ty

[old marlin]

does it also have glued on earpads?

[old marlin]

where have they not missed outside the LCDs?

[wheat plume]

OH FUCK

I MAY BE LOCKED FROM MY GITHUB ACCOUNT CAUSE I FORGOT TO TRANSFER THE AUTH PROFILE TO MY NEW PHONE

I cant :/

Cause I have some repos privated

[cursive summit]

Imagine using github

What a normie

Real chads store their shit on their disc

[wheat plume]

AAHH FML

how fix

help

[ashen spindle]

Never saved the 2fa one time codes?

It makes sense for baking and stuff and worst case you go to the bank in person

[cursive summit]

Ngl sounds like you don't use protection for other things either

[ashen spindle]

True, can’t have anyone look into my safe and see the crabby patty formula

[wheat plume]

AH FML

[vagrant pagoda]

All my repos are in zip disk

[wheat plume]

HOYL SHIT

I found the recovery codes on my USB drive

[ashen spindle]

well its back on the known issues list

https://www.phoronix.com/review/radeon-pro-w7000-series also damn, we got the nerfed display ports on desktop lol

think desktop variants dont have uhbr20 dp versions

[wheat plume]

LOL, My first ever pull request

and its a bot

[vagrant pagoda]

Pro tip email recovery codes to yourself XD

[wheat plume]

Yeah, I just deleted the one I used from the file

[cursive summit]

https://tenor.com/view/glee-quinn-fabray-its-really-nice-to-know-that-people-still-remember-me-dianna-agron-gif-18213176

[wheat plume]

ikr

well, in this not people

it was a bot xd

[cursive summit]

Good enough, I say

Bots have artificial feelings too

[wheat plume]

Im fucking stupid btw

[cursive summit]

We know

[wheat plume]

I was wondering how TF a bot could update a package in the repo

all it does it update the version number in a text file

[cursive summit]

https://videocardz.com/newz/amd-radeon-rx-6950xt-drops-to-610-prior-to-geforce-rtx-4070-launch

Not terrible

Man I am in disbelief at RTX 3000 prices

Entire AMD's 6000 product stack is with solid discounts

But 3070 is the same price as it always has been

[ashen spindle]

why are we getting news articles about a us store having a 50$ off sale lol

[cursive summit]

PSA to check GPU prices

They are really not bad at all rn for last gen

Cheapest 6800XT is 642.41 €, sad

Not that much less than a 6950

Although idk if the extra perf but far worse energy efficiency makes the 6950 a better deal

[gusty kiln]

Wonder if Apple will use these or they are full blown ARM now

[ashen spindle]

I mean its capable of powering whatever ultra retina screen they want to sell next xD

also its not as simple to make a gpu that can compete there as intel is showing

[gusty kiln]

Damn 12 bit

[ashen spindle]

cpu on the other hand can use arm ISA and can be evolved from existing tech and is easier to do for lower power areas

dont see apple trying to do an intel arc 2.0 lol

[wheat plume]

smart case

The case doesnt do shit, it just holds them

[gusty kiln]

I thought the m2 max silicon is pretty capable

[ashen spindle]

nuvia split away because apple was not interested in making ARM server hardware

[gusty kiln]

Dunno if it can do pro apps though

[ashen spindle]

yeah but if you want to replace workstations you're not going to cut it if your gpu cant scale up properly

[gusty kiln]

I think it tells the headphones to go to sleep

There's like a little chip

[ashen spindle]

and then the proper support for apps on top etc.

[wheat plume]

it doesnt

[gusty kiln]

I thought it did from an mdkhd video

[final flame]

Afaik it has something in there for it

[gusty kiln]

Yeah the case makes it that the airpod max instantly goes to sleep

Without it you'll have to wait like 30 minutes

[wheat plume]

yeah, they never turn off

[gusty kiln]

So you kinda need the case if you don't want to waste battery life

[wheat plume]

https://www.phonearena.com/news/airpods-max-turn-off-save-battery-without-case_id129446#:~:text=When you put,after 72 hours

yeh

the case just puts them into low power mode faster

[ashen spindle]

so it does do something, right?

[wheat plume]

yeah, but it cant charge them either :')

so it just delays them running out of battery

[vagrant pagoda]

fuuuuuuuuu

windows update killed my clear type settings

and i cant find the backup

F

[ashen spindle]

just run 8x super sampling for best aliasing ez

[wheat plume]

Wait

Apparently AMD's QC for their GPUs is wack?

High chance to get unlucky and get a gou with a cooling system that's broken in some way

[astral haven]

plenty of board partners to buy from even if that was true...

[ashen spindle]

lana you are like months behind on an issue that was a one time thing from a cooler maker

and it would only "break" by moving it around vertically after it was in use or so (dont remember the details

[pale sigil]

I'll never not see it the normal way

[ashen spindle]

Oh well anyway time to find out where I store this when I need to use the quest primarily

[vagrant pagoda]

why wouldnt you use the index controllers with the quest

thats what i use for standing vr

[ashen spindle]

because I already dread having index quest and pico 4 at one pc, oculus drivers alone already make enough chaos in sound settings

also cant really ignore quest controllers if I need to see if it works with them

[vagrant pagoda]

you dont use the quest wirlessly?

[ashen spindle]

I rather not test dev builds on the weak ass standalone mode when not needed lol

and wireless oculink is ass

[vagrant pagoda]

avlr is really good lol

[ashen spindle]

I know of av1

[vagrant pagoda]

av1 is a codec

[ashen spindle]

yes I am joking by saying idk avlr and google didnt show anything

ah the air light vr app I guess

yeah I dont think I can use that to load apps in developer mode though

[vagrant pagoda]

its all called ALVR

[fickle ore]

Youve started caring about DPC latency? 😮

[ashen spindle]

eh, it was mostly about nvidia removing it during a debate about nvidia/amd drivers and bug fixes etc.

[vagrant pagoda]

but yeah

airlight is better than my vive wireless

lol

but i have no wireless noise

[ashen spindle]

eh might've tried it but since I need to have the dev hub linked to it that wont work with this

[vagrant pagoda]

i only use 2.4g for other devices

alvr needs dev mode

you have to sideload it

but yeah

[ashen spindle]

yes but I cant use alvr to load apps unto the quest

[vagrant pagoda]

you dont load apps with alvr though

you have to sideload alvr though

[ashen spindle]

yes but I need to load apps too lol

and I dont want to deal with changing the connection mode all the time

[vagrant pagoda]

but i have a quest 2 and vive/vivepro

[astral haven]

also developing while using a janky 3rd party app that basically noone else is using seems like a bad idea to me

[vagrant pagoda]

the pro has the wireless

its meh

i use index controllers though

[ashen spindle]

yes if I would just use it for gaming I would likely try it

[vagrant pagoda]

with the tundra wireless adapter

[ashen spindle]

because beat saber on the wireless oculus link was not playable for me and cable is always in the way with the dumb side location for the usbc

[vagrant pagoda]

you might have a ton of wifi interfeacnce

[ashen spindle]

nope

[astral haven]

have you tried beat saber wireless?

[ashen spindle]

most other games would probably work fine, but a minuscule stutter is really not fun for me when swinging around at ex++

do wish we were like 1-2 years in the future though

man does the quest SoC suck in what it can do in comparison lol

but it still needs to run on it bc cheap

[vagrant pagoda]

i wish someone would make it so you can connect a phone via typc and drive the display

then you could use like a rog phone to play

[astral haven]

phone aint powerful enough

[ashen spindle]

Bruh the usbc can’t even be properly used to charge it while using the link

I went that to work before it gets more features

[frozen ingot]

doesn't rog phone have two c ports

[vagrant pagoda]

yeah

[frozen ingot]

can't charge with one and link with the other?

[vagrant pagoda]

the thing that sucks with devices like the quest, is the display is good enough, they soc will just get slower

if they made it work directly over c

you could keep upgradeing that

[ashen spindle]

Talking about the quest, idk what the rog does

[vagrant pagoda]

yeah the quest doset allow it to work as a device directly over c

[astral haven]

yes but the quest doesnt support linking and the rog phone isnt fast enough to run the headset on its own

[vagrant pagoda]

wut

the quest is a XR2

the rog phone 6 is XR2

the 7 is XR2 gen 2

[astral haven]

no the problem is the cameras

also its not actually an xr2

[ashen spindle]

There are year old issues about it not charging when it should be able to charge while using it for oculus link and it’s so annoying having to charge it when it’s plugged into the pc 24/7

[vagrant pagoda]

yeah it is

https://www.qualcomm.com/news/onq/2020/10/oculus-quest-2-how-snapdragon-xr2-powers-next-generation-vr

[astral haven]

it has the same cpu and gpu but its not the same chip in the slightest

this is what the rog phone uses

the important part is the 7 camera isps + dsps

the regular smartphones have i believe 2 of them with fewer features

the q2 actively uses 4

[vagrant pagoda]

the 8 gen 2 has always capture now for the ai bs

so i has 4 i belive

[ashen spindle]

Oh guess with the index I can see how the DSC thing works on Nvidia if my monitor will turn off or not lol

[vagrant pagoda]

anyway the quest would still do its tracking

[astral haven]

sure but not a single phone has their isp ports available

[vagrant pagoda]

and send it over BT

[astral haven]

🤣

g1

[vagrant pagoda]

just let you drive the display directly over the type c

[astral haven]

the reason its taking so long for the deckard is thats what they are doing (except not the dumb bluetooth idea)

[vagrant pagoda]

well yeah thed use the vive/index wireless

[astral haven]

current rumor is xr# chip in the front, x86 in the back as an optional addon

[cursive summit]

https://www.techpowerup.com/307182/amd-zen-5-nirvana-and-zen-6-morpheus-core-codenames-leaked-confirm-foundry-nodes

Nirvana and Morpheus?

A bit random

[astral haven]

apple is reportedly going dual chip as well
a## in the front, M# in the pocket

[vagrant pagoda]

I want to try a big screen beyond with the optical cable

[ashen spindle]

Nothing new aside from confirmation it’s Morpheus but same pattern as the older names

[cursive summit]

Zen 6 on 2mm, cool

[vagrant pagoda]

Because tbo light headset with optical cable might be enough mobility

[ashen spindle]

No that part is speculation

We don’t know modes for zen6 yet

[astral haven]

im kinda interested but very unhappy about the low refresh and high persistence

[cursive summit]

"AMD engineer inadvertently leaked"

I think this is reliable, no?

[vagrant pagoda]

I saw testing and it was half the persistence vs the index in high refresh mode

[cursive summit]

If the node was planned for 2nm, you can't just go about and change it easily, can you

[astral haven]

Source "wccftech"
wccftech cites twitter

[ashen spindle]

We already have zen4 and zen5 on multiple nodes

[astral haven]

sauce?

[ashen spindle]

So that could in theory be just the io die or something

Or just the datacenter variants

[vagrant pagoda]

Also pretty sure the low refresh rate is because they don't do dcs

[ashen spindle]

Also a LinkedIn Profile is not an amd leak, anyone could put stuff there lamp

[astral haven]

what is this new acronym
did you swap letters in dsc?

they do in fact use dsc tho

[vagrant pagoda]

They all do yeah

The 90hz limit on the beyond isn't that bad

It's only 60hz if you don't use dsc

[astral haven]

the problem is oled

[vagrant pagoda]

How so?

[astral haven]

its too dim

btw you havent cited who tested persistence

[vagrant pagoda]

I mean you have zero backlighting with vr so that isn't as important

[astral haven]

i would highly doubt that .2ms would cause such huge problems for all of these major vr players

[astral haven]

except its oled

oled does have minimum brightness and the lower the brightness the more noticeable the fall times will be

even if they are hitting .2ms (which I dont believe in the slightest) thats certainly not 100-1, thats 90-10 or likely worse

and human eyes do in fact have the capacity to compensate for low brightness, but that doesnt mean you dont notice it...

[vagrant pagoda]

oled repsonse time is 0.2 for 80% and ~2ms for 100%

[astral haven]

🤔

so the response is worse than 2ms because it goes over 100% at least from what the reviews ive seen have said

[vagrant pagoda]

its the same display tech as the psvr2

they are both sony microoleds

[astral haven]

except with far less efficient lenses so they have to drive the panels alot harder

[vagrant pagoda]

the psv2 has larger pixels too

[astral haven]

yay -_-

[vagrant pagoda]

which is why it dose hdr/higher brighrtness

but no the nits is very low on the byond

[astral haven]

tbh i doubt supporting hdr would help

the screens probably dont have the dynamic range to actually take advantage of it

[vagrant pagoda]

no i mean the display isnt bright enough for hdr in the byond

its dim

[astral haven]

hdr can still help with dim displays
but the beyond is far beyond just being dim,,,

[vagrant pagoda]

thats why you have to use the custom fit gaskets

it is unusable with any light leakage

[cursive summit]

Would you peeps consider Quest2 as a decent VR goggle?

Cause I've dusted it off and been playing some games recently on it

I find that it's a bit too pixelated for distant objects beyond virtual 10m or so

[astral haven]

think of it like the console tier of vr

[ashen spindle]

it looks better than the CV1 but I would use the cv1 over it still xD

also the stock strap for the quest 2 is literally dangerous for your neck lmao

[frozen ingot]

quest 2 should still be relevant afaik

[ashen spindle]

for prolonged use

[astral haven]

idk the cv1 is extremely low res, i actually cannot use it any more

[ashen spindle]

its mostly the controllers that were nicer

[cursive summit]

I wonder if the Reverb G2 has a lot better screen than Q2

[astral haven]

it does

but the wmr experience is pain

[cursive summit]

How so?

I only use Quest 2 through Link and Steam VR, it's really comfortable

[frozen ingot]

I've used steam index and quest 2 and the latter holds its own rather well imo

[astral haven]

the wmr controllers are actually awful

[frozen ingot]

index has much better controllers but the headset itself isn't bad

[ashen spindle]

if you use quest, spend 50bucks for some deluxe head strap

makes it from literally unusable tier to decent

[cursive summit]

Idk I don't mind the stock strap

The only problem I have is just fatigue

VR is just really fatiguing mentally

[ashen spindle]

and a shit stock strap that makes the weight front loaded is making it worse lol

[cursive summit]

I added mentally, to clarify

[astral haven]

the index i used to use for 6+ hours straight no problemo

[ashen spindle]

yes and physical strain makes the mental fatigue worse too

[cursive summit]

For some reason VR games just get really damn emotionally dull after 1 hour

[astral haven]

nowdays i dont have 6+ hours left in a day 😭

[cursive summit]

And no, physical comfort is good on my end

[frozen ingot]

can't recall it being that bad, wasn't the best but it worked

re the strap

[astral haven]

gotta understand that minor faults in the experience can cause mental strain

minor latency or physical mismatches for example

[ashen spindle]

also for most people the stock face gasket(?) thing blocks not enough light so it makes the immersion a lot worse

[frozen ingot]

its a shame good vr titles are few and far between

[ashen spindle]

doesnt helpt you are for the most part only able to do gimmicks because the hardware sucks

[cursive summit]

Anyone seen or heard any reviews on those Quest Pro goggles?

They look like aviator glasses than VR goggles

[ashen spindle]

cant do half life alyx on quest and most devs need to target quest 2 for mass audience

[frozen ingot]

when its done well it blows any other gaming experience out of the water

[astral haven]

q pro is awful according to every review ive seen

[frozen ingot]

nothing touches that immersion

[astral haven]

basically just a quest 2 with half the battery life and a few gimmics

[frozen ingot]

can any headset run alyx on its own though

[ashen spindle]

thats my point

[frozen ingot]

iirc steam index doesn't have any onboard hardware for running apps at all and is purely a peripheral for a pc

[ashen spindle]

most studios will need to target whats most used and thats a quest with its old XR2

hence they are limited in what resources they have to make the games

so its harder to make as good of an experience especially for smaller studios

[cursive summit]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pjaxUCPqqbI

[astral haven]

think of quest 2 like the '99 civic of vr, meets every min requirement and has nothing more
Quest pro is like a '99 civic where someone upgraded the seats but screwed up the gas mileage and is selling it for double the normal price

the index is like a f150, big and bulky but is alot more capable
Bigscreen is like a lotus, missing a few extra features and capabilities for a very light experience
g2 is like a tesla model 3, fantastic experience on paper, but has a few major ux problems that make it hard to use

[cursive summit]

Wtf is a civic

Wtf is an f150 or a lotus

[astral haven]

cars

[cursive summit]

Ah

Cool

[astral haven]

civic is one of the most sold cars of all time
as is the f150

[cursive summit]

I don't have a license or care for cars so, meh

[astral haven]

here in the us its a requirement for many many jobs

[cursive summit]

Here as well

Idgaf so, don't care

[gusty kiln]

Smol

[cursive summit]

Oh yeah, there was actually a car I wanted, some guy was selling his Mitsubishi Lancer Evo X plastered throughout with weeb anime girls

It was the coolest thing I saw when it comes to cars

[astral haven]

-_-

[gusty kiln]

Shame our transportation infrastructure is so shit in America

Then again, the county is huge AF

[frozen ingot]

not to mention how demoralizing alyx must have felt for a good few vr software startups hoping to make a splash with some casual style game

[gusty kiln]

Kinda hard to maintain

[frozen ingot]

valve did raise the bar quite a bit

[astral haven]

technically we have the largest road system in the world by length
the problem is we have the largest road system in the world...

[gusty kiln]

[astral haven]

and thanks to the privatization of the railway, we cant rely on it any more, so more and more garbage is getting shipped by road

[gusty kiln]

Yeah

There have been talks in the past of having a seperate tax for freight trucks

On companies

That ship a lot of things

[astral haven]

thats a bandaid

[gusty kiln]

Like all things in the USA

🇺🇸

[astral haven]

ew ess ayy

[gusty kiln]

Each individual state could have public transportation like the Asian counties, but no one have been able to replicate

[ashen spindle]

Like~~ all things in~~ the USA

[gusty kiln]

[astral haven]

i dont think the usa acts as a bandaid for anything?

[gusty kiln]

Probably our military

By just existing

[ashen spindle]

bandaid that covers up the chinese spying and other issues but just has the same spying and bad labor going on

[astral haven]

wow its almost like back then we used roads to move our military around and the president was aware of that...

[ashen spindle]

presidents knowing their shit? damn that must've been the 19th century

[astral haven]

you know it!

except it was the 20th century

[gusty kiln]

Our military logistics is still one of the best in the world at least

[astral haven]

um no

our military spending is the highest

we literally throw away more money than anyone else even uses

[gusty kiln]

I can see smaller European counties being better

[ashen spindle]

yeha but at least your soldiers dont need to buy their own clothes because the budget is too low lmao

[gusty kiln]

But we took over iraq in a month

That's pretty crazy logistics wise

[astral haven]

isreal has been literally at war with significantly larger countries surrounding it since its founding

and japan has one of the smallest militaries in the world by headcount

[astral haven]

we had a 20+ year technological advantage lmao

[gusty kiln]

Yeah but it's over seas and across several counties

Getting soldiers and equipment there in the first place

[crisp granite]

a train system would be pretty...not possible
just because of how the US really is populated

[astral haven]

were you aware that several bombers used in the run took off from the us, and landed back in the us after dropping bombs without landing anywhere in the middle

[astral haven]

we used to have a train system lmao

we just let it degrade into uselessness

[crisp granite]

I know

and the cost to rebuild it beyond the original capacity, because the USA has completely changed since then...would far outstrip the costs of just keeping existing roadwork

[astral haven]

actually it wouldnt

[gusty kiln]

What ever happened to the vanderbilts

[astral haven]

its just the government already gave up on it, and we arent maintaining our roads either...

[gusty kiln]

Was that with in air refueling?

[astral haven]

dunno, dont think so, heres the vid with all the details
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zxRgfBXn6Mg

[gusty kiln]

Top 2 air fleet

[astral haven]

the difference between the us and russia tho is russia builds a few demonstration craft for new capabilities, then does it again and again and thats what makes up their military
the us is a few years behind, but we build up an entire military fleet for each generation

[gusty kiln]

Aren't we having trouble recruiting and training new pilots?

Or the military in general?

Apparently you can get 2 artisan xl pads for 100 right now

Hmmmmmmm

Yeah

Days of pensions are over

401k is a complete joke in comparison

I'm at my third company out of college

But I can see myself staying at this current company for quite a bit

Unless something drastic happens

Good luck

Also seems the 4070 day 1 sales aren't great

Plenty of msrp model still available

Unless they had plenty of stock

There are several aib 4070 at 599

Higher end models are +40-80

Should be the same as the 4070ti one

4070ti one is smaller

13.7" vs 12" length

12 inch is actually reasonable to fit in most cases

[vagrant pagoda]

I mean I love over size heatsinks

They run way way quieter

[gusty kiln]

Yeah I don't mind either as long as it's not too cumbersome

[vagrant pagoda]

A 4 slot 4070 would be almost fan idle under load lol

[gusty kiln]

4070 actually uses less power than my 2080

My 2080 is usually around 220ish

[shadow minnow]

As long as they are an option

Well, what I mean is, as long as there are cheaper modes with smaller heatsink

[gusty kiln]

4070 FE is tiny

[vagrant pagoda]

Yeah

It's a smol 3080

[shadow minnow]

So yeah then I don’t mind some having bit heatsink at all

[vagrant pagoda]

4090 Fe vs 4070 Fe is adorable

[gusty kiln]

4070 seems nice but I want a 2X increase over my 2080

[vagrant pagoda]

Like even the 4080 drawfs it

[gusty kiln]

FE cards are dense

[vagrant pagoda]

Yeah

It's the vapor chamber

It's thonk

[shadow minnow]

Lol that’s crazy

[gusty kiln]

Minimum need to speed 800 to get 2X over my 2080

[gusty kiln]

Overheating and loud gpus are a thing of the past

Unless a dud

[vagrant pagoda]

Pretty sure toe 4070 is 3070ti size

[gusty kiln]

Yeah

I think its slightly thicker

But same profile

[vagrant pagoda]

It's 2 slot

So it can't be thicker

[gusty kiln]

Hmm

FE pcb is tiny

[vagrant pagoda]

Yeah the vrm is tight

Like all the fe cards

[vagrant pagoda]

That's the main way all the aib cards are cooler

The vrm is far away and dosent heat the core

[vagrant pagoda]

The space is important for HR

[wheat plume]

:P

[shadow minnow]

Well there are reasons why you may want that space to be there.

Mostly noise related

And to make routing possible

Also true

[frozen ingot]

impressive how powerful stuff you can squeeze into such tiny surface area these days

[shadow minnow]

Also the lanes going to the pcie slot look so so ugly

Like

Really ugly

[frozen ingot]

speaking of which, apple are apparently suffering a dip in sales lately

bit like nvidia with their flagships

kinda hoping their consistent price gouging tactics for each new generation is starting to catch up with them

sales have slowly decreased on iphones too though, but its marginal

[ashen spindle]

the 20 series has been such a good deal for nvidia it make the 30 and 40 series prices look fine

ofc not, but if you were to compare it to a 2080 ti it all looks better lol

[frozen ingot]

as long as there's a healthy abundance of aspiring white girl influencers in the world the iphones will keep on shifting

[ashen spindle]

yeah lol

[wheat plume]

o.o

6 grand headphones

[frozen ingot]

ah yes the great gpu famine of 2021

[gusty kiln]

Abyss is a pretty controversial company...

[wheat plume]

o?

[gusty kiln]

Parent company sells those silver cables that cost thousands

And a bunch of other things

[wheat plume]

ooooooooohhhhhhh

[gusty kiln]

Like shit warrenty on that 6k headphones

Until recently they upped it to 10 years

[old marlin]

Ik a guy that works in a company that actually produces those wires

[gusty kiln]

It was only like 2 years before

Lol

[old marlin]

They don't sell the end users though

[gusty kiln]

I rather get an lcd-5 or susvara than the abyss

For that 6 grand

[old marlin]

Supra Mk4

And a lexus uhh

Is something

Iirc

No wait

Ls

Hybrid

Few years old

Yeee

[gusty kiln]

[sharp badger]

https://www.tomshardware.com/news/rtx-2080-ti-dying-from-gpu-sag Remember the support bracket folks 😅

[ashen spindle]

my support bracket are 2 sawed off chopsticks I put under the corner

[barren pond]

Mine are lego 👌

[barren pond]

thats actually awesome

[frozen ingot]

my pro gamer move is owning a pleb gpu that doesn't need one

[ashen spindle]

https://www.marketwatch.com/story/eu-delivers-statement-of-objections-over-broadcom-s-61-billion-planned-takeover-of-vmware-a0e2db56 I did not know bcm had THAT much cash

fucking hell they could (in theory) buy intel lol

[astral haven]

basically every single datacenter regardless of who is making it has a broadcom chip at the top of each rack

and they arent small chips

[old marlin]

Doubt they'd be allowed to tbh

[ashen spindle]

yeye just looked at their money and did not think it was that much higher

and nvidia could buy broadcom lol just looking at net worth

[old marlin]

Well they sell basically regardless of plattform

I'm still mad they left the mouse sensor market to give pixart a monopoly smh

At least avago stuff wasn't as flawed as phillips

[astral haven]

thats the same as the msrp of the wd, its just oos rn

[gusty kiln]

If you're willing to shuck, you can get a 22tb for 380

[astral haven]

https://www.amazon.com/Elements-Desktop-External-external-storage/dp/B0BTFPTSNQ
yup
p good stuffs

[gusty kiln]

Think wd reds are quieter than ironwolfs though

Waiting for the day we can get 4tb ssd for 100

4tb for 200 atm

Silent and fast nas

[astral haven]

im ok with my $20 a month 250tb "nas"

and you didnt get it lmao

truenas is such a monstrous pain to set up

what do you just have a single smb or ftp share or something?

[gusty kiln]

Yeah I would just use unraid and build my own

[astral haven]

unraid is not zfs :/

[gusty kiln]

https://unraid.net/blog/6-12-0-rc1

[astral haven]

yea well
im just gonna wait for the ltt sponsored one

[gusty kiln]

Ltt sponsored?

[astral haven]

linus is investing in a company that is working on making a nas os that is actually user friendly

not just enthusiast friendly

[gusty kiln]

Ooooo

Interesting

[astral haven]

for now they dont have a name yet

[gusty kiln]

Basically compete with synology dsm

[astral haven]

and qnap as well as truenas and unraid

[gusty kiln]

They are basically the apple of the nas world

[astral haven]

nah jellyfin is

wait no

whats the name of that 10k system?

[gusty kiln]

No idea

[astral haven]

https://www.lumaforge.com/jellyfish/builder/?model=m&onboardingPlan=0

jellyfish

[wheat plume]

been like this for like 30 minutes, is it safe to justr pull out the USB drive?

[thick elk]

You generally can do that safely on windows nowadays

besides that it's probably windows explorer or your image viewer, something like that

[ashen spindle]

unless something is actually in use that isnt just explorer or if you turned of the safe way and you get unlucky

[cursive summit]

It's funny cause I have never even known of that "eject device" thing

I think I was like in 5th grade and I got shouted at for like "bricking the PC"

Cause I didn't eject it

[wheat plume]

its a mechanical HDD, when you eject it properly it powers it down before you can safely eject it

[cursive summit]

I was like "what"

USBs are using flash storage, though

Tf do you mean mechanical

[thick elk]

They actually changed the behavior in windows because people kept janking them out.
The problem is actually just that there is that data first gets written to cache and that you can have data loss when ripping it out during file transfer.

[frozen ingot]

external harddrive?

[wheat plume]

ye

[thick elk]

They changed that at some point on windows 10

[astral haven]

they changed the default

[wheat plume]

it connects via sata to usb port adapter cable

[astral haven]

you can still revert to the old behavior, and it massively speeds up use of the drive

[wheat plume]

there is not much on the drive anyway

just some steam games I transfered to my Deck and some music and video to test then on the Deck also xd

[thick elk]

I usually just use sftp for file transfers with my deck

[fickle ore]

How would they, if they have only 3bil at hand?

You can't buy anything with market cap

[cursive summit]

Unless you sell your shares or something

[fickle ore]

;p

Nvidia doesnt own nvidia

[ashen spindle]

no but you can buy with shares instead of raw cash

also as was said regulations etc. but it was about how much the cap is as a number

[fickle ore]

And how much Nvidia owns NVDA?

[ashen spindle]

not what could actually happen

[fickle ore]

I was also surprised to see how big broadcom was

LMAO

[gusty kiln]

?

[fickle ore]

700€ in poverty econ

[gusty kiln]

kek

[fickle ore]

Cheapest 4070's offered. Omg

[cursive summit]

It's supposed to be whatever the retailer wants it to be

Typically would be 599 + EU VAT

[gusty kiln]

yeah, plenty of stock

unless they have a fuck ton of 4070

[cursive summit]

It's supposed to move?

[gusty kiln]

it's suppose to be the "Mainstream" gpu

[fickle ore]

sad thing is 599€ + 24% VAT is 74x€

[gusty kiln]

he's not American so forgive him

[fickle ore]

Im getting discount ig

[cursive summit]

Ah no sorry I thought you mistook the GPU for a car

[gusty kiln]

if I upgrade, at minimum it would be a 4070ti

[fickle ore]

I'm looking for a 4k card so minimum is AMD 78xx or better for VRAM sake

probs

[gusty kiln]

shame you don't have a microcenter, 780 for an Asrock 7900XT

AIB below MSRP

https://www.microcenter.com/product/661893/asrock-amd-radeon-rx-7900-xt-phantom-gaming-overclocked-triple-fan-20gb-gddr6-pcie-40-graphics-card

if they fix the power consumption I would get

maybe limited time rebate on AIB-Nvidia side

[fickle ore]

Yeah Murica has it too good for PC parts. Buying power is loads better and cheaper products and less taxes. It's like EU guy goes to buy 500€ card the equivalent is NA guy buying 1000+ card.

U gotta do what u gotta do

[gusty kiln]

Well after taxes it'll be about the same

[fickle ore]

U pay over 24% taxes?

[gusty kiln]

Oh nvm

[fickle ore]

:KEKW:

[gusty kiln]

Would be 640ish after taxes for us

[astral haven]

no

thats average across the state

it varies by city

[fickle ore]

Just drive to AK

[gusty kiln]

So 660-670 at the most for us

For a 599 card

[astral haven]

what people actually do is they drive to oregon who has zero

[south maple]

Yeah, or Delaware or Vermont on the East Coast.

[fickle ore]

lulw kinda toxic place

[astral haven]

eh its just sales tax

[gusty kiln]

I got 3 microcenter within 1 hour from me

[astral haven]

tustin is 7.75 apparently

[south maple]

Only thing I miss about the DC area. Would be nice if they opened one down here what with all the tech stuff happening in this area. Wouldn't be surprised if they did at some point.

[astral haven]

most are

[crisp granite]

bunch of lucky fucks

[wheat plume]

Ooooooo

America is lucky

350 dollars

[chrome estuary]

We're getting a microcenter in my capital this summer and i'm excited!

instead of a 3sh hour drive each way, it's only an hour

never been because i refuse to drive that far

[crisp granite]

for me to get to a microcentre, I need to cross a border along a 5 hour drive

and y'all are complaining about a 3 hour

pffff

[wheat plume]

If I lived an hour away from a microcenter
I'd be constantly broke

[crisp granite]

if I lived an hour away from a microcentre
I'd be working there

or at least applying

but 5 hours and an international border...yeah no

honestly I should apply for that NEXUS program

considering I'm pretty consistently traveling to the states

[wheat plume]

I'd love to work at one

[wheat plume]

Wtf is Lacros?

Oohh

[grim mulch]

only a border and a 5 hour drive? i gotta cross an ocean man

[empty wren]

gonna be nice for 3d printer stuff locally 😏

[empty wren]

only 23 minutes away for me

[pale sigil]

Gotta love it when your phone doesn't auto connect to your headphones but you start Spotify song anyway

[frozen ingot]

I love it when I pair up my bluetooth buds to my phone but the actual phone app doesn't switch over to the buds

[latent mural]

Did anyone here get the Pulsar x2?

[old marlin]

inb4 doubleclicks

thanks kailh

[flat timber]

Ya

[latent mural]

ty for replying i solved my problem

[wheat plume]

https://youtu.be/hCnPENkfaiw

[gusty kiln]

is Vaxee and zowie the only wireless mouse without software?

[sharp badger]

These are kinda interesting

[cursive summit]

They are

90mm is a pretty big driver

Planars, too

All depends on how they tune them

Even the best driver falls fast if you tune it shit

[sharp badger]

Yeah guess we have to wait until reviews come out in May to know 😴

But there are the HE-400, Edition XS, Focal bathys that are interesting too 😅

[cursive summit]

Bathys is not interesting

Hifimans are, yeah

Also people completely forgot already that Sennheiser just launched a new headphone

[astral haven]

good closed back planars is exciting...

[cursive summit]

It was just so underwhelming everyone forgot about it

660S2 or whatever it's called

HD 660S2 prolly would have been a really interesting option for the right price

But they priced it at like 599 or 699

Slash that price in half and it's an interesting option

[sharp badger]

Ah they did? 😅

[cursive summit]

https://www.sennheiser-hearing.com/en-US/p/hd-660s2/

People saw the pricetag and stopped caring

It's not that much different from the existing headphones for far more

[sharp badger]

Yeah

[gusty kiln]

Audeze Maxwell

[crisp granite]

haha
yeah that's fair
I've come close to losing an airpod more often than I care to admit

[cursive summit]

https://tenor.com/view/maxwell-maxwell-spin-spinning-cat-maxwell-spinning-gif-27234188

[crisp granite]

and considering they cost me over 400 dollars...

ugh

[astral haven]

yikes

[cursive summit]

Also, aren't the Audeze MM100s open back

[gusty kiln]

MM-100 are literally open Maxwells

[cursive summit]

I just wasn't sure why Carmonben said "closed back planars are exciting"

When MM-100 look very much open

[sharp badger]

Still using my AKG K550MKII but would still like to ''upgrade'' to something 😅 the MM-100 look interesting at that price too to get into Planars

[astral haven]

since when are the bathys the mm100?

[cursive summit]

Who was talking about bathys?

[crisp granite]

still have a functional walkman
they really don't anymore

[astral haven]

you?

oh wait no they are dynamic

[cursive summit]

I just said they were not as good as people think they are

Indeed that too

I don't remember Bathys being planar either when I looked up reviews

Bathys could be alright for cheaper

[astral haven]

regardless hifi closed backs are exciting

so far there arent really any options

[gusty kiln]

Bathys are whatever aluminum/magnesium that focal always uses

[astral haven]

closest we have so far is ndh20 but those are tuned for mixing not listening

[cursive summit]

I think I read this up

https://www.headphonesty.com/2022/10/review-focal-bathys/

They have some really weird wired sound

And ANC is just weird

[cursive summit]

Can you please buy mine

Like, they are so shit I don't want to own them anymore

[astral haven]

🤷 get gud

they eq fantastically

[cursive summit]

More like get better ears

[gusty kiln]

there's always the Dan Clark closed back, but people keep saying they lack dynamic contrast

[cursive summit]

Still waiting for Blessing3 reviews

Nobody has really done one yet

[astral haven]

specifically waiting for crinacle review

[cursive summit]

https://www.pcgamer.com/nvidia-says-83-of-rtx-40-series-gamers-enable-ray-tracing/

Lol what

[astral haven]

im very concerned about the treble spike

[cursive summit]

Crin's a bit slow on the uploads

Well he's less of a youtuber now

More like a sound guru for companies

[gusty kiln]

inb4 it's people who don't realize it is on by default

[gusty kiln]

and co-owner or something with a keyboard channel too

[cursive summit]

Idk what he owns

But Crin's been getting around

[gusty kiln]

his project red also looks very similar to the blessing 3

[cursive summit]

Project red is literally red thuthear zero

[crisp granite]

[gusty kiln]

https://preview.redd.it/vsg3mslqb9ta1.png?width=960&crop=smart&auto=webp&v=enabled&s=b56bd2ce3bcdc9e45a0ec76e8aaed75b7f66be42

treble looks smoother than the blessing

[cursive summit]

It's the Zero

Just altered tuning

[gusty kiln]

I mean you could literally say that about anything close to harmon

but look at the bass

[astral haven]

well tuning is pretty important as youve said lel

[cursive summit]

And it's shite out of the box

Maybe someone would be willing to get these, I only paid like 160$ or so

[astral haven]

🤷 thats like your opinion man

[gusty kiln]

that looks like 1 BA driver

[astral haven]

oh dear

[gusty kiln]

[astral haven]

good thing about westone is they make decentish tips

and they are tip compatible with etymotics

[astral haven]

i havent heard anything about the erx since

[cursive summit]

I am still not sure why this exists

[astral haven]

i mean etymotic evo

[cursive summit]

And this one is curvier

Seriously is this a "V shape"

It's more like a W

[gusty kiln]

that's a checkmark shape

[astral haven]

nike iems

[gusty kiln]

@astral haven have you seen the Rokid Max?

[astral haven]

the nreal competitors

[gusty kiln]

hardware is impressive, skeptical on software

120hz + eye adjustment built in

[astral haven]

interesting but 1080p is too low

200 inch needs more...

[gusty kiln]

is anyone above 1080p yet?

[astral haven]

bigscreen lmao

the problem is the pixel pattern is actually atrocious

[gusty kiln]

oh rip

we're talking about AR glasses

[astral haven]

its projecting a 200 inch screen onto your retinas

they dont need to do dolby vision

but yea raw resolution doesnt really matter much, 1080p with a nice pixel pattern would probably be enough

[gusty kiln]

rokid using like a hexa pattern?

[astral haven]

its the sony microleds

good on the right, what it actually is on the left

[gusty kiln]

[gusty kiln]

https://www.techpowerup.com/307280/asus-announces-proart-geforce-rtx-4080-and-rtx-4070-ti-graphics-cards

I like the looks

but prob +100 over MSRP

Pro art is from their professional monitor brand

[astral haven]

and motherboards too

[gusty kiln]

It's just the strix with a new paint job

ahh ok, looks like a shrunken down strix then

maybe the strix for the 4070 slapped onto the 4080/4070ti

Aorus are the most CHONK looking because they keep the squared off corner

yeah Gigabyte seems to be the worst at least on GPUs

their AM4 mobos were praised for a bit, but dunno about AM5

https://www.lowyat.net/wp-content/uploads/2023/01/ASUS-ROG-Strix-RTX-4080-Vs-Gigabyte-AORUS-Master-RTX-4080-1.jpg

[astral haven]

chawnkerz

3x120mm fans on gpu when

[gusty kiln]

makes me want to main and open test bench style PC

I've only owned Asrock Mobos

[astral haven]

yea but then you have to have agesa

[gusty kiln]

been solid so far

Carmonben still looking for his unicorn mobo

[astral haven]

ive found it

its just $900

[gusty kiln]

intel?

[astral haven]

obviously

agesa garbage cant apply to a perfect mobo

[gusty kiln]

the B650E Taichi is what I would use if I were to build today

[astral haven]

https://www.newegg.com/p/N82E16813119638

pro w790 ace

[gusty kiln]

what cpu

[astral haven]

w7 2475

or 95
2400 something

[gusty kiln]

no e-cores

nice

[astral haven]

id actually be ok with a second numa node of e cores

[gusty kiln]

https://c1.neweggimages.com/ProductImageCompressAll1280/13-162-082-04.jpg

cheapest AM5 with power/reset and post code led

[astral haven]

second slot being only x4 is pain

[gusty kiln]

too bad EVGA doesn't seem to have an AM5 mobo coming

[ashen spindle]

they definitely have just not soon

[gusty kiln]

3&4 claims to do 5.0 x8 each

doesn't that meet cam's requirements

[astral haven]

correct, they are shared

1 x16 + 1x8 simultaneously

https://c1.neweggimages.com/ProductImageOriginal/13-119-638-03.png
this beaut does quad x16 or 3x16 2x8

[ashen spindle]

realistically what you want is a board that is just socket and dimm slots and has a slot to put your own pcie expansion slots in for free configuration

[astral haven]

🤷 no

i want actual pcie slots

[haughty kelp]

i currently have a 3070 rog strix ti should i upgrade to the 40 series if so then which one?

[gusty kiln]

prob not

[ashen spindle]

idk, do you feel like you are not getting the fps you want in games you play

[gusty kiln]

unless you're playing 4k

[astral haven]

but id be happy on am5 with no chipset and 2 pcie slots, 1x16 1x8

[haughty kelp]

well i mainly play overwatch on 165hz currently tho im upgrading the monitor soon

[gusty kiln]

kek then nahh

[astral haven]

upgrade cpu first

[gusty kiln]

even at 240hz or 360hz the 3070ti should be able to do it in OW2

https://ifi-audio.com/products/go-pod/

ifi be smoking crack

[haughty kelp]

and ive been thinking about getting either the xg27aqm which is a 270hz monitor or the xg27aqmr which has 300hz both is 1440p but the aqm should have a 0,5ms delay and the aqmr is at 1ms so im still debating on which one to get. im also kinda curious if the aqmr is a newer version of the aqm?

[gusty kiln]

apparently it's 400-500 for the hooks alone

still smoking crack though

[astral haven]

4 volt output what the actual hell

[gusty kiln]

it's balanced

[astral haven]

all tws are balanced

its still 4 volts

tbh im actually somewhat interested

[gusty kiln]

I mean it is totl for this product category

[astral haven]

ldac 990 + aptx adaptive + aptx ll

[gusty kiln]

but not comparable tbh

[astral haven]

sure but they are more comparable to the fiio utws3

[long oracle]

Atleast the 0,5 ms delay, that doesnt Matter ive Heard and it makes sense

[astral haven]

the etys are missing ldac and have aloooot less power and voltage

[gusty kiln]

I mean I wouldn't buy it, just trying to explain the pricing

ifi is UK based

have you seen chord product?????

[astral haven]

what

[gusty kiln]

"It’s why we oversee the design, development and manufacture of more than 50 products from our headquarters in Southport, UK.

It’s why we source parts from across the globe including Germany, USA and Japan."

probably another reason why their stuff is so expensive

yeah

UK audiophiles have weird design taste

[crisp granite]

…

Bruh

This could genuinely be a solid FH competitor