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fickle ore
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Yeah LG is stupid with the AG

shadow minnow
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Firmware they are pretty good at

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Delivering products to customers not so much

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Also it was formerly eve

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It was eve spectrum haha

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But well if anyone here didn’t get theirs delivered I can ask for you, since I still have some contacts there

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I wouldn’t recommend it

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The monitor is pretty nice, the risk not

ashen spindle
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Not as nice as qdoled mm

shadow minnow
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Also true

sharp badger
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That's a wierd 5 fan gpu 🤔 https://videocardz.com/newz/maxsun-unveils-geforce-rtx-4070-ti-mega-gamer-gpu-with-five-fans

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shadow minnow
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I did Beta testing of their monitor so had it before I had to pay dogekek

ashen spindle
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just like weird heatsinks on boards that dont even need one at all to cool down

shadow minnow
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Ampere is just horrible

ashen spindle
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what?

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this is not ampere

shadow minnow
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3080 was such a nice outlier

shadow minnow
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I forgot the name lol

ashen spindle
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how is the 3080 nice lol

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compare to the 1080 (ti) not the 2080 ti scam

shadow minnow
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I mean msrp wise it was way better than everything around it

ashen spindle
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yeah wow not hard after the 20 series was a rip off lol

shadow minnow
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I wonder, is Turing or Ada a bigger rip off thonk

ashen spindle
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if they take 2 slices and give 1 back that's still -1 to what it was before, not a nice thing lol

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turing

shadow minnow
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But yeah definitely not perfect

ashen spindle
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no that is the mindset of why they keep getting away with it

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just because there is something worse it's not great

lone rapids
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wtf

fickle ore
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price is nice

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pale sigil
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3080 is indeed nice if you can get it MSRP

empty wren
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Still no 1080p OLED monitors

pale sigil
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Why would there be

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1080p is for office boomers

ashen spindle
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yeah no point to add expensive tech to a cheap market

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1080p is starting to become outdated

empty wren
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Smh oh well

pale sigil
fickle ore
pale sigil
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Idk that's why I'm asking

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I'm lazy to lookup

ashen spindle
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no lol

pale sigil
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Both convo and model

ashen spindle
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IPS

fickle ore
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oh lol

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shit then

pale sigil
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Also boomer res

slate solar
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Final mouse keyboard Announcements hella quiet rn

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was wondering what happened to that wallpaper keyboard

empty wren
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Guess I will wait for 1080p μLED

empty wren
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Yes

surreal tapir
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apparently they’re going to try and get them into stock

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instead of drops

empty wren
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Glorious is the better meme

sharp badger
ashen spindle
empty wren
sharp badger
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Pricing will probably be a thing too

empty wren
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And yes it would be better higher pixel density and supposedly no burn in

empty wren
ashen spindle
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I mean seriously though

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why wait for high end tech and then only use 1080p

empty wren
ashen spindle
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if its good enough why wait for new high end display tech instead of regular ips xD

empty wren
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Also pretty sure a lot of graphics card still struggle with 1440p right?

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Okay maybe not a 3080 and 3090

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I see

ashen spindle
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1070 can do it

sharp badger
ashen spindle
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the issue is it comes out barely before blackwell/rdna4 once again lmao

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if it can hit its targets

sharp badger
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Yeah but if the price is right & if one would get some great value/performance 🤷‍♂️

empty wren
# ashen spindle 1070 can do it

Fair enough, guessing everything caught in the last few years. Guess I will wait until Intel actually makes something that can run well at the resolution. But then again 1080p is not even so bad when you are sitting so close

ashen spindle
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why specifically intel?

empty wren
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I do not want to pay a lot for a graphics card

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Simple as that

ashen spindle
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yes 1080p is not unusable but for high end display tech it makes no sense

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and intel isn't cheaper than an amd option lol

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maybe for this gen a little bit

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since the pricecut that is

sharp badger
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Just want another GPU maker to stir things up for AMD/NVIDIA and actually lower the prices

ashen spindle
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intel is buying marketshare by force currently lol they are only cheaper than nvidia for now

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they cant do that forever with hardware that costs more lol

sharp badger
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Well one can hope , One could buy an Gigabyte 6650XT 8GB for 400€ vs Intel A770 16GB for 420€

astral haven
ashen spindle
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1000hz yes 1080p no

astral haven
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And even better use a 4k panel running at 1080p

ashen spindle
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now that we can consider

astral haven
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A la zeisworks

ashen spindle
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radeon low end this gen is they released it during gpu boom so low end didnt exist and a 6400 was made with dumb specs xd

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a770 is like 410mm^2 of silicon a 6650xt is 237mm^2

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of roughly the same node lol

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oh and higher powerdraw too dogekek

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so yeah, intel isn't going to be the cheaper option, they already only compete and are bruteforcing that price

sharp badger
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Ok, well hope they do better with Next gen 🙂 👍

ashen spindle
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oh yea for sure, and its nice if they are out earlier with some new features like AV1 this time even if next gen amd/nvidia high end obliterates them

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it's just not realistic to expect it to be the cheapest/most value option at a price point for gaming

sharp badger
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Perhaps not maybe it was wishful thinking, but it's nice to see that they're trying to get into the market 😀

ashen spindle
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I mean that was also most aimed at Cruella's comment of why intel as next gen option

empty wren
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Still good for 1080p

ashen spindle
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never denied that

empty wren
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😏

ashen spindle
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a worse deal isn't exploding

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it's just that, a worse deal

pallid salmon
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I've just gotten the wooting actually typing with it atm but my x key isnt working idk why?

ashen spindle
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replug the keyboard

pallid salmon
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oh thank you LOL

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XX

cursive summit
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LOL

ashen spindle
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how do people know its caused by denuvo

cursive summit
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I guess this time you didn't bother to read past the headline

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Demo = good perf

ashen spindle
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its based on steam comments

cursive summit
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Full release = runs like shit

ashen spindle
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how is that something you can take at face value

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what about the case that demo= not full game

cursive summit
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Tbf, why wouldn't you

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It's the same scene

ashen spindle
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so maybe something was missing thats causing it

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we just had hogwarts where people say day1 patch made performance worse for some

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why would that not be possible to be the case here

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man I want to be paid for leading a team and just making articles based on steam comments

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sharp badger
cursive summit
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If phones start ditching SIM too, I'll just stick to old phones

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Sony phones look attractive with that headphone jack

ashen spindle
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Oh go away with your apple hate, esim is long overdue

astral haven
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Sure but I want a physical sim so that I don't need working internet to activate my phone

mild dome
ashen spindle
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hate iphone sure but dont hate on something good just because iphone does it

astral haven
ashen spindle
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Maybe, I think they are doing it so providers will make it work so others can do it right in whatever way

astral haven
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We used to be able to pop in sims and ship the phones straight out
Now we need to log the phones onto WiFi, then wipe the phone before we can send it out

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There is zero way to activate an esim offline
What I think is the correct way is the Samsung way
It prompts you after you set it up if you want to convert to esim, then it does and it's great

empty wren
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you can hop around carriers if you wanted

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without needing to waiting a week for a sim card

latent hatch
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Should I get 7700x or 5800x3d for a 7900xt? I know that there's no upgrade path for 5800x3d but the price of buying a 7700x and the am5 socket motherboard and the ddr5 memory is a lot higher.

gusty kiln
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7800X3D is like a week away

latent hatch
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What's the expected price for 7800x3d

gusty kiln
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450

latent hatch
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That is not an option then sadly

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So like if you were to choose between buying a 7700x and buying a 5800x3d what would you pick

astral haven
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That seems more the price range of Intel tbh

latent hatch
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Do you think I should get an Intel cpu with that pricepoint?

gusty kiln
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near a microcenter?

astral haven
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That's enough for a 13600k ddr4 build almost certainly and depending on budget you may be able to go ddr5

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Really wish there was an am5 ddr4 option, you'd save a lot of cash and not lose too much thanks to the cache

gusty kiln
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I would only get the 7700X if I could get this deal

latent hatch
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Sadly no nearest ones at least 500 miles away

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Yeah am5 ddr4 would be so nice but sadly not an option

gusty kiln
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where are you buying your parts?

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oh yeah forgot the non-X cpu also exist

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I'd suggest those over the X because it doesn't try all it's might to reach 95C stock

astral haven
gusty kiln
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if no OCing or min/max, could prob go cheaper on the board

latent hatch
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Dyk if that board is future proofed

astral haven
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Oh wow that's a terribly priced board yes oops

latent hatch
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Ok that was my next question

astral haven
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It's specifically not

gusty kiln
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nah 1700 is dead end

astral haven
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But you should be able to get a solid board for $80

gusty kiln
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unless you find a 13900k afterwards

astral haven
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I just clicked on the most popular

latent hatch
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Will non x bottleneck my gpu?

gusty kiln
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oh yeah where are you buying anyway?

astral haven
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Regardless, there's no such thing as future proofing
If you plan to upgrade, just wait until the part you want is available, otherwise plan to keep the pc for 2 or 3 years, at which point you won't be able to reuse the motherboard

latent hatch
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I'll be running a dual monitor setup 7900xt

astral haven
latent hatch
astral haven
gusty kiln
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do you see yourself upgrading the cpu in like 2 years?

latent hatch
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Def not

astral haven
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So yeah save up for x3d

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If you can afford a 7900xt you'll be fine

gusty kiln
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what games anyway and what monitor?

latent hatch
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I'm on a tight budget of 1500 and need it fast, old computer is dead.

latent hatch
astral haven
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What part died?

latent hatch
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Probably some aaa games and some esports games

gusty kiln
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1080p? you can prob buy a lower tier gpu

astral haven
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Also how about not getting a 7900xt ye

gusty kiln
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and spend more for the 7800X3d

latent hatch
astral haven
latent hatch
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What do you think I should downgrade to?

gusty kiln
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6800XT are pretty good value

astral haven
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6900xt is as high as I'd go for 1080p

latent hatch
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I'll probably go for 6900xt, should I just go for the 5800x3d then?

astral haven
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13600k or 13700k still imo

gusty kiln
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yeah

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if not 7900X or 7950X, get intel

astral haven
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7800x3d is gonna be top of the chart here tho when it releases

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latent hatch
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Alr

astral haven
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And 13900k too cash money for little benefit over 7 and 6

gusty kiln
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this build but cheaper gpu and no AIO

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should be under 1500

latent hatch
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👍

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Tysm

gusty kiln
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damn the open box 4080 at my microcenter got sniped

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1070 for 4080 is a nice deal

shadow minnow
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Removing ground zone of a pcb always looks cool

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astral haven
latent hatch
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Lmao

shadow minnow
wheat patio
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does anyone here have a good idea how to use wootamation?>

humble glacier
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Hi,
I'm trying to figure out how the fn key is toggled so I can attach that press to a foot pedal. But it's not registered as anything. If anyone has the ASCII code or some knowledge for that it would be much appreciated.

humble glacier
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I could write a script to force it but is there a more elegant solution to toggle the fn key rather than just using ascii or java and doubling the value whenever I push the pedal and 1 key to give me f1

empty wren
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Interesting thonk

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ashen spindle
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you could use something like autohotkey though to emulate it by having it interrupt the input if you press the pedal

humble glacier
brave hazel
lofty pivot
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at 1080p you hit max useful increases on the 5800x3d already with a good gpu

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you'd have to get a 360hz 1440p screen to get benefit from a 7800x3d

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then turn on a lot of AA too

brave hazel
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How about the 500hz alienware?

lofty pivot
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at 1080p?

brave hazel
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Ye

lofty pivot
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you'd be so far over 500fps all the time

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i'm on a 5800x3d with 4070ti and it's already 700 frames if I turn off my aa

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that's at 1440p

brave hazel
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I guess 5800x3d just better then the 5900x

lofty pivot
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for valorant it is for sure

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but you could be hitting gpu limits too

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i had a 5800x3d with 2060super before and it got 300-500 fps, then going to 4070ti gave me another 200 frames

brave hazel
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Hmm is a 3080ti fine?

lofty pivot
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for valorant? easily

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especially at 1080p

brave hazel
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Cool

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I just wanted to upgrade my setup for a consistent 360fps

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The 5900x don’t do that

lofty pivot
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you don't get 360+ fps on 5900x and 3080ti on 1080p?

brave hazel
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Nope sometimes it drops to 260-350 when util is everywhere

lofty pivot
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i did see the x3d chips tend to raise minimums a lot, especially at 1080p where you're more cpu limited

brave hazel
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And I run a 360hz monitor so yeah upgrades needed

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Ye

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You shouldn’t overclock a gpu if you want maximum lifespan right?

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I mean cpu*

lofty pivot
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i mean you can but cpus don't really need to be overclocked anymore

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they already run pretty boosted, it's not like the older gens where overclocking would give you way more performance

brave hazel
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I see people overclocking for that extra 10 fps running games on 4k 120hz

ashen spindle
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Cpus and gpus overcloud on stock already basically

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But a 5800x3d can’t be overlocked anyway because it’s locked due to vcache

signal crown
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I just received my wooting two HE but the space bar doesn't work is this normal?

ashen spindle
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unplug the cable at the pc and plug it back in

signal crown
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oh

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yeah

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thx ^^'

pale sigil
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Noice, my ISP chat moved to WhatsApp.

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That's great

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Lol, not so great is the price increase.

reef patrol
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Tech Jesus finally make a rant I can agree with.

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pale sigil
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Is the rant that no motherboards at a reasonable price have the error code thing in the pic?

reef patrol
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Yep.

pale sigil
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Amen then

old marlin
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more so that it used to be on mid end boards

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and it's not anymore

reef patrol
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Used to be on low end ones back in my day.

novel star
ashen spindle
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I assume its about your ticket, you need to wait a bit more than just 20 minutes, they have stuff to do xD

gusty kiln
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For amd the cheapest is like the asrock taichi

novel star
gusty kiln
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For 500

reef patrol
gusty kiln
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I want them just to run an open air pc

reef patrol
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At least those have headers for a quick button. Debug does not.

gusty kiln
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I only get 4 leds for troubleshooting on my motherboard

reef patrol
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Yeah... and those are honestly more often than not actively making things worse, because they often aren't accurate.

gusty kiln
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Cpu ram gpu and boot drive

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Yeah

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Sometime 2 things light up

fair gull
reef patrol
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I'm not THAT old!

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Built my first PC with my dad around when Halflife 1 was popular. xD

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The days of unlocking cheap AMD CPUs and turning them into the top models with... a graphite pencil.

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Was it something like turning an 1100Mhz Duron into ... I forgot if it was 1800 or 2100? Athlon. For free.

fair gull
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but those all had PCI slots

reef patrol
fair gull
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wish PCIe kept the standard for such system messages to be posted to all PCIe devices

reef patrol
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I mentally connect those diagnostics cards with DOS era machines or older 😄

fair gull
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i used those when i was working my old job

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quite often

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just sad that newer mobos all dont have standard PCI slots

novel star
ashen spindle
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dear god you just asked 5 minutes ago

reef patrol
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1-3 business days for something like your request. You don't want me to just blindly hit "ship it" on your order. Because if it isn't good, then you're looking at a month or more of waiting for a replacement.

gusty kiln
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New mobo are all about overkill power delivery and pcie gen X for nvme

reef patrol
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None of that helps me, if I am unable to get it to POST because of a RAM issue 😄

novel star
pale sigil
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@reef patrol I'm bloody thankful I at least have LEDs on mine.

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Never got that fancy shit on intel I swear.

reef patrol
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I have segment and everything.

pale sigil
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Just old beeper.

reef patrol
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I mean at least there's a beeper - Cause that's more useful than the LEDs.

pale sigil
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Disagree

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LEDs as in it has a list of them for what's failed

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Eh memory issue it lights red on memory

ashen spindle
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leds are useless

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hard to see and so many times inaccurate

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rather have a beeper

pale sigil
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I can put a beeper on mine but I've never used it tbh

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I have a few beepers in my mono box I didn't bin because I hate binning stuff and I cba going to recycle.

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The other week I had to recycle some AMD3 boards lol

reef patrol
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(Not to be confused with the two digit LED code panels)

pale sigil
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True, facts are facts.

fickle ore
ashen spindle
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you can always ask

fickle ore
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Is it worth it to sell my 5800x for 180€ and buy a brand new 5800x3d for 320€?

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For me?

reef patrol
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Do you play unhealthy amounts of Factorio and other single thread heavy games? 😄

fickle ore
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OW, CS2, and mmorpgs

ashen spindle
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yes because it will also smooth out your 1% lows in overwatch and similar

fickle ore
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Is 5800x3d beneficial in raids?

pale sigil
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Looks like I'm moving ISP

They offered me 500/25 for £39, I may as well take the 6 months free offer to try another that does 500/500 and gives an actual good router and free mesh thing.

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A d offers gigabit at an affordable price

ashen spindle
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hard to say for online content, if its IO limited or not

gusty kiln
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Ow2 was great for me at 1440p 240hz

pale sigil
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Shame the game itself isn't great

gusty kiln
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Yeah haven't played it in months

fickle ore
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Yea OW2 blows

gusty kiln
fickle ore
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But as I see it, if I'm staying on AM4 for 2-3+ more years 5800x3d might be ok

gusty kiln
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5800x3d still the most popular in Germany

ashen spindle
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7800x3d in a week is going to be interesting to see

gusty kiln
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Yeet

old marlin
gusty kiln
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Definitely going to sell out first week

old marlin
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7950x3d sold out in minutes

pale sigil
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In Germany they sold it at an insane price

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So it will be most popular

ashen spindle
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they sold it at msrp?

gusty kiln
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7900x3d the 4080 of these cpus?

old marlin
fickle ore
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Can you put 7800x3D on AM4?

ashen spindle
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no

fickle ore
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fuck

gusty kiln
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4070ti actually selling pretty well

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But yeah in terms of being cut down

ashen spindle
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oh damn the 7950x3d is not back in stock

gusty kiln
ashen spindle
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thought that would be back already

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and its been out of stock for over a week now, really didnt think the 7950x3d would be that high demand

gusty kiln
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The comparison is that people either want 7950X3D/4090 or 7800X3D/4070ti

fickle ore
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Mindfactory has some amazing deals for 7900xt lately

gusty kiln
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But not the middle child

fickle ore
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Sad It dont work for outside germany

gusty kiln
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7900X3D/4080

old marlin
old marlin
ashen spindle
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the xt is a gpu xD

old marlin
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ah

ashen spindle
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and it got a 100€ msrp cut hence it makes sense now

gusty kiln
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There was an open box 7900xt for 710

ashen spindle
old marlin
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huh

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who pressured them to change KEKW

ashen spindle
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germany only for customers for a few years now

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no clue

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maybe customer support cost was not making it worth

old marlin
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@fickle ore if you want something forwarded hmu ig lol

fickle ore
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srsly considering it

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old marlin
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man I wonder what happened here

fickle ore
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No idea

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Probably not selling much and account looking short of cash xD

ashen spindle
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same price if you add shipping

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old marlin
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they ship to finland btw

fickle ore
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Nice

old marlin
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26€ though

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for shipping

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what

ashen spindle
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cheaper than if you were to forward it anyway

old marlin
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oh

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yea nvm

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I mean same for nvidia

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if the card doesn't have a major flaw it will perform basically the same

fickle ore
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I feel like aftermarket cards always been a scam

ashen spindle
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since this gen at least, before it did make some differences

old marlin
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not really a scam

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what you used to pay for was a fan that didn't burst your eardrums

gusty kiln
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You get better temps and noise

ashen spindle
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now its clocked to the wall on stock, it used to be that AiB could add like 10% from OC and cooling

gusty kiln
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And at most 3% performance

fickle ore
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atleast for Nvda

pale sigil
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If anything if aftermarket can be worse havo

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Looking at you MSI

gusty kiln
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Wouldn't it just naturally boost higher stock

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Due to thermal headroom

pale sigil
fickle ore
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I remember using MSI afterburner and having to start it every boot, fuck that

pale sigil
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To apply manual oc

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But not auto

gusty kiln
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Don't really need it anymore

ashen spindle
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automatic boost wasnt a thing now its stock behaviour

gusty kiln
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How low can a 4070ti go in terms of power draw with an undervolt?

ashen spindle
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dont think that has been tested a lot on the lower tier cards yet

gusty kiln
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It's the only card with about the same power draw as my 2080

fickle ore
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RIOT

gusty kiln
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Would be perfect for the summer

ashen spindle
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i mean you can also powerlimit it straight up xd

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techpowerup or so probably have some power scaling

fickle ore
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Alibaba stock 12,3 % on the rise today, nice!

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China market bullish

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Jack Ma back in China

gusty kiln
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After thorough re-education

fickle ore
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BotMa!

crimson wigeon
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REVOLUTIONARY

fickle ore
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Nice

gusty kiln
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Twitch is also banking on AV1

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Can't wait

halcyon moss
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ah, streaming to youtube

crimson wigeon
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Erryone is

halcyon moss
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yeah that would have been more interesting tbh

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lets hope they can encode it ini realtime 🙂

ashen spindle
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well its step by step

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first they let you deliver av1 to their servers

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now they need to process and not just transcode it

lofty pivot
#

oh dam youtube allowing av1 soon? that's major

crimson wigeon
#

About time though, been years since first announcement

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True

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Rather just have RGB

reef patrol
crimson wigeon
#

Heck why not have RGB beep error codes

halcyon moss
#

burn

#

$ 300 motherboards are most of the time absolutely unnecessary

#

8 layer pcb in the title is also irrelevant lol

ashen spindle
#

ehhh

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it does do something for ram OC

#

which XMP basically is but it's minor

crimson wigeon
#

Hmm socketable debug header, so kinda what old computers have with those cards you can slot in to get some POST codes

reef patrol
gusty kiln
#

X670E taichi is the cheapest with the debug code

#

499

#

at least on amd

#

Oh wait

#

Since B650E have them

#

Still 350

latent hatch
#

Would 6750xt and 5600 be ok for heavy gaming (some triple a and some esports) and some streaming?

#

1080p

ashen spindle
#

yea

halcyon moss
#

i find this question interesting.. we've been gaming for YEARS at 1080p...
this is all fairly new stuff, yeah it will be

#

even for 1440p

zealous lake
#

Had to upgrade my 960 to 6700xt (paired with 5600x) last year cause I swapped to 1440p and even that's been alright for pretty much anything. Not that my standards are particularly high

cursive summit
final flame
#

The 599s are mediocre are they not?

cursive summit
#

Afaik they are fine?

pale sigil
cursive summit
#

You got 6XX's, right?

#

Eh fair enough, those might be better

final flame
#

They are better

cursive summit
#

But 599 is quite a bit different and some peeps like the 599s more

pale sigil
#

I have 6xx yes

final flame
#

From what I know the 599s are not worth the price point they are at, Sennheiser themselves sells stuff that is better for the same price

cursive summit
#

I am scared of IEMs

#

I heard amazing good things about the Hexa, namely

#

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2VZFcCMUNnA&t=386s https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UC6rJjWXwwc

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I don't fuckin like these

#

Like the audio quality is acceptable

#

But man are they shallow

#

If this is the "mini-Blessing2", then I have no interest in IEMs anymore

#

I'll just stick with headphones and look into the ATH-R70x dogekek

#

That Ukrainian Verum is also cool but the availability is pretty bad

pale sigil
#

Iems aka my ears in pain

cursive summit
#

You are wrong on that

#

But I agree that IEMs are just overrated

#

Open backs are god for that surround experience and comfort

#

Man it's almost like not having open back audio is a detriment

pale sigil
#

How am I wrong

#

Literally aka my ears in pain

#

They hurt me

cursive summit
#

Blame your own biology dogekek

#

They are fine

#

Nowhere near headphone level though

pale sigil
#

Never said they weren't fine

#

I just said aka my ears in pain

cursive summit
#

Shouldn't have bought the ER2 or ER3s

#

Ear drilldos

pale sigil
#

Unrelated

My ISP had changed contract terms which legally allows me to end the contract (and others), I've been talking about it and now they are saying they need 30 days notice to remove service.

#

Bitch I'm asking to end the contract not leave, the 30 days thing is for leaving.

gusty kiln
reef patrol
#

30 day is very common in Europe as a whole.

#

Hell even stuff like Netflix does it.

cursive summit
#

Some peeps say 70x has better wow factor and sounds much better

#

Then you have the typical senny fans

ashen spindle
#

he can they just think he wants to do the normal leave which means 30 day notice but he wants out instantly since they changed the terms

cursive summit
#

Audio's literally just preference anyways

#

I wish I could test audio out, but I can't, so I'm just left guessing

ashen spindle
#

yeah

#

well 30 day means you give notice but are still going to pay for the next cycle and then you are out or similar

pale sigil
#

Y'all missunderstood

#

Here you do 12-18 month contracts you can't get out of unless one part breaks it, eg this case price hike gives me the right to end the contract, I want to end the contract right now but you still need to give them 30 days notice to leave their service as they do rolling for none contract connection.

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Usually after your initial contract upon joining you just become a rolling customer or pay as you go I guess, but if you want discounts you renew contracts

#

Which I do every 18 months to avoid paying their shitty prices which of course that's their end point

#

Ehhhhhhh

#

I'm already paying £34

fickle ore
#

:e

pale sigil
#

They literally messaged me an offer for 500 for £35 before this

#

What on earth

#

Never will I ever forget when they charged me this for 200

IMG_20230328_171513.jpg
reef patrol
#

1 month end always here. Unless you sign up for some kind of predatory "first time, one year" kind of deal.

pale sigil
reef patrol
#

How... weird and predatory 😄

empty wren
gusty kiln
#

At least with the big bois

empty wren
#

Sadly I think a lot of areas is either Comcast or at&t sometimes even you can only choose one

gusty kiln
#

Just get your entire neighborhood to buy up your own dedicated fiber connection

#

Ez 10 gigabit

empty wren
#

That would be nice but I doubt anybody would be willing to do that any time soon lol considering the economy

gusty kiln
#

Yeah need hundreds of people

#

Or else it's multiple grands a month

final flame
#

If only the US government wasn't so damn slow when dealing with literally every single issue in existence

empty wren
#

If anything states could handle it themselves

gusty kiln
#

#Lobbying

#

Legal bribery yayyyyy

final flame
gusty kiln
#

Crazy seeing 4tb SSDs for around 200 now

ashen spindle
#

real ones or qlc ones?

gusty kiln
#

Most likely qlc

final flame
#

qlc?

gusty kiln
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gusty kiln
final flame
#

Ah

vagrant pagoda
gusty kiln
#

The higher you go the less edurance and more error prone you get

vagrant pagoda
#

I think they will force me up to 300 for 5gig this year

gusty kiln
#

Damn

vagrant pagoda
#

Gotta twist my arm XD

gusty kiln
#

This is community owned fiber?

vagrant pagoda
#

Comcast

#

XD

gusty kiln
#

Damn

#

Wtf

#

Guess it's a testing area

vagrant pagoda
#

Comcast.fiber is good other than install cost

#

Nope they have the biggest I think

gusty kiln
#

99% of the rest of the county don't get that

vagrant pagoda
#

Just not the most customers

#

More than you think

#

They ditn advertise it anywhere

ashen spindle
#

oh appears to be TLC

vagrant pagoda
#

You have to call a.speical number and ask

gusty kiln
#

Ooo

ashen spindle
#

not too shabby then

gusty kiln
#

Yeah

gusty kiln
vagrant pagoda
#

It was 2g for 250

#

Then like 2 years ago they bumbed me to 3g with new hardware

#

But didn't get rid of the promo price

#

I think with 5g they will force me to goto 300

#

At least

gusty kiln
#

One day I will build an all ssd nas for not stupid account of money

vagrant pagoda
#

I think the normal price is 350 for new

gusty kiln
#

Yeah

vagrant pagoda
#

Install for 4 grand though

#

That was the oof

gusty kiln
#

👀

ashen spindle
#

god I wish I could get more than 1gig, if only they could hurry up with the next DOCSIS spec upgrade

vagrant pagoda
#

That's between their cost of like 3200 ish and my costs to go from street to house

vagrant pagoda
#

The firber got cut

ashen spindle
#

lol

vagrant pagoda
#

And took like 20 something days

gusty kiln
#

What websites/ download servers even support more than 1 gig downloads?

#

Other than torrents obviously

vagrant pagoda
#

So they gave me a modem and service

#

And never cancels it

#

Steam

#

Youtube

#

Gmail/drive

#

Usenet

ashen spindle
#

docsis 3.1 can do 10gig down and they have articles about it since 2021 but still cant get it and they now talk about docis 4.0 zzzz

vagrant pagoda
#

I mean I have in think 1200

#

But it burst close to 2g

#

But the fiber is solid

#

Like steam will do ~2.8 gbps easy

#

It actually needs a good nvme to do sustained

gusty kiln
#

Would it even be worth to try and sell a gtx 970 at this point?

ashen spindle
#

for cheap to some local hardware shop perhaps

gusty kiln
#

Hmm

#

If I can find one

cursive summit
reef patrol
cursive summit
#

I don't like Win10

#

I wish Win7 was supported for longer

#

7 was just the right amount of old style minimalistic dogekek

final flame
#

Personally windows 11 shouldn't exist

gusty kiln
#

Windows 11 was doing something to drain my laptop battery really hard when I first got it. Plop windows 10 on it and it's been smooth ever since

latent mural
final flame
#

Windows 11 while it does look aestheticly more pleasing, it really shouldn't have been a new version of windows

cursive summit
#

I am honestly never using Win11 in its official form

final flame
#

Yea same

gusty kiln
#

Windows 12 already on its way

cursive summit
#

Either Linux or the community win11 editions

cursive summit
#

Source?

#

Win11 isn't even "out"

#

It's like a beta

final flame
gusty kiln
#

Rumor

#

But interesting that intel is involved

cursive summit
#

Okay???

#

That's a bit weird from Microsoft

gusty kiln
cursive summit
#

Is Win11 some sort of intermediary release from them?

#

Did they even start selling the physical editions of Win11?

gusty kiln
#

Has to since windows 10 is not officially sold my Microsoft anymore

#

Only leftover copies left

final flame
#

Did you try to find a iso anywhere

cursive summit
#

I'll have to check honestly since I don't even remember seeing Win10 physical editions for the longest of time dogekek

#

Tbf I don't go outside so whatever

final flame
#

They exist usually sold at bestbuy

#

That's the only place I've seen them being sold at

cursive summit
#

Oh it's a thing

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110 euros 🤢

#

I'd rather just crack it

#

I am genuinely in a way concerned that Microsoft genuinely borderline doesn't care for Windows piracy

final flame
#

Once windows 10 stops getting updates in 2025 I'm just going to vm everything through Linux

pale sigil
fair gull
cursive summit
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The tools that just crack the system via CMD have never been really patched

#

Feels like a beta state

gusty kiln
#

SteamOS 3.0 plzzz

cursive summit
#

Debloated windows

fair gull
cursive summit
#

Back to windows 7 era of performance

final flame
#

Especially the start menu

cursive summit
#

Win11 superlight actually feels more akin to 10

pale sigil
cursive summit
#

The shit bloat is gone and it's less cluttered with shit you don't need

fair gull
gusty kiln
#

Only the android apps interests me on w11

final flame
#

Eh it depends

cursive summit
fair gull
#

win10 and win11 are both windows 10.X builds

cursive summit
#

But is it really though

#

Win11 was rumoured to be a complete rewrite of the kernel and stuff

#

I don't really care what it is in reality, but it seems a lot bigger than it seems

latent mural
cursive summit
#

Lol

#

No

latent mural
#

ngl if w10 loses support i will use linux 💀

cursive summit
#

A system that can't figure out that can be usable cause everything needs hours of tinkering to work properly

#

I had enough of Linux Mint

#

Maybe some other distros are better

gusty kiln
cursive summit
#

But Mint genuinely pissed me off

latent mural
cursive summit
#

I'll just stick to debloated windows for now

final flame
cursive summit
#

If those stop getting updates or get taken down via DMCA or so

#

Linux is genuinely a last case scenario

final flame
cursive summit
#

Wtf is lana's handle now

#

@lana avanna

#

Wait

#

Lana's gone

#

Interesting developments

#

I was meaning to say anyways, Lana's sold me on Arch Linux

#

So maybe that is not as crap at Mint at working properly

final flame
#

Tf

#

Why would she leave

cursive summit
#

Who knows, @crisp granite

#

You should know wtf happens in the hideout where Lana always had their breakdowns

pale sigil
#

Shit

#

Just realised

#

If I switch I lose having a static IP

cursive summit
#

@pale sigilHey wtf have you done to your basement prisoner

pale sigil
#

I cut her connection off for a bit

#

She was being naughty

cursive summit
pale sigil
cursive summit
#

Ahh

#

So it was me

#

Or Mansen or Quin thonk

pale sigil
#

Everyone

cursive summit
#

Tbf they just need to come to the conclusion that they need to chill

#

Or embrace the weirdo and just piss everyone off on purpose dogekek

#

I chose the 2nd, worked so far

gusty kiln
#

@final flame

cursive summit
#

What is meant by this

vast marlin
#

how the sounds were recorded

cursive summit
#

Quality of mix or the "kbps"

vast marlin
#

kbps would be compression yes?

cursive summit
#

cause the kbps don't mean shit

vast marlin
#

me?

cursive summit
#

24-bit 192kHz sound is virtually indistinguishable for most from shit like FLAC

#

If that's what's meant by that, then it's bs

#

If it's just quality of the mix, then sure

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Though the lower you go down that list the shittier it gets

#

Like some of those things are controversial to this day cause peeps either swear by it, or just dismiss it

#

Like "burn-in"

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Or "cables"

#

Unit variation shouldn't make a bigger difference than a fuckin amp

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Like listen on tubes vs solid state amps on a dozen headphones of the same type, 100% you will just hear the damn tubes

gusty kiln
cursive summit
#

Then I'll agree

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Master quality is extremely important to enjoyment

gusty kiln
#

I want to try an R2R dac to see if it is bullshit or not

#

Shame most discrete designs are 700+ usd

solemn remnant
#

that sounds weirdly trebly for a kexp mix

cursive summit
#

192kHz/24-bit Hi-Res Lossless.

solemn remnant
#

got better after singing started, but there's some hiss yeah

cursive summit
#

192khz is not lossless

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It's anything but lossless dogekek

solemn remnant
#

but anyway this sounds pretty cool

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and of course they're australian

#

kek

#

I've probably claimed this earlier but most good contemporary acts come from aus

gusty kiln
#

I have a few of their songs on my library

final flame
#

not the sound quality of the file

final flame
#

nothing really stands out to me as being incorrect

cursive summit
final flame
#

sorry then didn't see the message

#

only saw the large rant about 192khz

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although sources should be above file formats

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most of the people I've had try out sources could tell a difference, at least when it comes to a normal consumer source like a phone and a dongle or amp

gusty kiln
cursive summit
#

Just buy the HE-1 pog

golden sapphire
#

Has any fighting game player tested the wooting/can vouch for it's efficiency compared to regular switches? I would test it but im currently unable to have access to a computer, would love look more into it, it could potentially change the FGC if it has the same impact as it does on FPS.

mild dome
#

IRC Metallica's mastering for a good time was completely shit, to the point that a lot of music that should've been well received was rejected due to poor mastering making it painful to listen to (lots of clipping).

The best version of one of their albums is one ripped from Guitar Hero, because for some reason Guitar Hero got a near raw copy of the music prior to production butchering it. So Metallica fans will tell you to download this pirated album

solemn remnant
#

death magnetic havo

final flame
#

interesting benchmark

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ashen spindle
#

yeah the results ltt got were once again really weird and unlike any other outlet basically

#

even on the non broken cpu

final flame
vagrant pagoda
#

Pbo did worst?

#

And the 13900k oc did worst

#

How did a oc make it worst lmao

#

In both tests

#

Yes

#

All of the ocs did worst

ashen spindle
#

pbo made it a bit better and is equal in the other though?

#

oh the non x3d pbo

vagrant pagoda
#

Something is wrong with their bench

ashen spindle
#

eh guess that is margin of error

vagrant pagoda
#

Flac threads well

#

5.6 all core should be faster

#

Yeah but it's raw pcm so flac splits the file up and transcodes sections

ashen spindle
#

threading well still has to compete with 200mhz on ST

#

and if its not that long you dont get too much from MT

vagrant pagoda
#

Yeah but the other cores will be way lower without tweaking if one is boosting to 5.8

#

Last I checked a ""stock"" setup 13900k barely will 5ghz on the other cores if it's boosting one core to 5.8

#

With really good cooling

#

Lmao

#

If they have the ks running 6ghz on single core how

#

And the 700 at 5.5 beats the 900 at 5.6?

#

Something is wrong with their CPU testing

mild dome
#

IRC the KS is hitting thermal limits hard even with some of the best coolers out there. Really in order to get this thing to reach advertised performance direct die cooling is required

vagrant pagoda
#

Then that's an error in their testing

#

If the CPU can't run at a clock then the oc isn't stable

mild dome
#

Not really

#

They are running the CPU as "intended" by Intel

ashen spindle
#

yes but if it hits thermal it wouldnt reach 6 on main so that isn't really what would happen here

vagrant pagoda
#

Yeah

#

If it's throttling stock how is pushing 6ghz making it cooler

mild dome
#

Looking at the config: "Two cores at 6 GHz, 5.7 GHz all-p-core, 4.4 GHz e-core, 1.29V vCore, DDR5-6800 XMP 3.0"
My guess is that normal behaviour is all cores try to hit 6GHz, and thus thermally saturate the cooler. I am unsure of what this CPU's normal boost behaviour is

ashen spindle
#

if the hit tjmax then its not at the clocks they show so that doesnt add up either

#

and stock is 5.8 not 6

#

or 5.7 5.8 with TVB only

mild dome
#

The KS goes to 6 with TVB

ashen spindle
#

the K not though so a ks at 6 giving less doesnt add up

#

since we dont see the regular KS clocks on that chart just the locked once

vagrant pagoda
#

K and ks stock are there

ashen spindle
#

no I mean we dont see the clocks of those stock results, aka if they are thermal limited perhaps but we know a KS at 6 should in no way be behind a regular K

#

so something is wrong

mild dome
#

Even when "locked" doesn't Intel still thermally throttle for safety?
Also keep in mind that only 2 cores of the KS are locked to 6, the rest are running at 5.7 to try and ease those cores

#

Well the performance cores at least, the E cores are of course way lower since they aren't meant to run high. Maybe the regular K's E cores are the answer?

ashen spindle
#

if it thermal limits then it shouldn't be lower than one that doesnt even clock high enough to be limited

#

also then they test wrong because it shouldnt throttle if you want to test at those clocks since you then dont test at those clocks

fickle ore
old marlin
#

amd actually selling more cards than nvidia at mindfactory

ashen spindle
#

That doesn’t seem right unless the 4090 was out of stock or something

fickle ore
#

It's probably due to the 850€ 7900 xt and mega discounts on Mindfactory

#

NV hasnt been discounted in EU like AMD's

#

I think something like that was talked about in that r/hardware thread

ashen spindle
#

Maybe, gpu-z still has seen more 4090 models than all other current gen models from both combined

old marlin
#

maybe that is just a LOT of early sales?

#

also the overlapping demographic for 4090 users and people that install gpu-z might be larger than people that bought a gpu in gneeral in a similar timeperiod and installed gpu-z

lofty pivot
#

4090 production got reduced a lot by nvidia

#

to forcibly keep their 4080/4090 prices up

ashen spindle
#

no lol

#

GPU-Z numbers as of March 21st, 2023 / 1:00AM EST
7900 XT: 45302
7900 XTX: 99807

4060 Ti: 105
4070: 280
4070 Ti: 160227
4080: 214954
4090: 652525

A310: 434
A380: 16649
A580: 145
A750: 15102
A770: 35143

lofty pivot
#

i mean it's gpu z

#

number of tested doesn't equal number of sold

ashen spindle
#

yes it has a bias that pre builts arent included and those might have more lower tier cards

lofty pivot
#

of course people with 4090 are more likely to test it using gpu z

ashen spindle
#

you underestimate the amount of people who just buy the best and the people that tinker with hardware on lower end to oc and get more perf/$

lofty pivot
#

how so?

#

4090s still sell, no one is saying it's not

#

sold numbers however are manipulated by production numbers where nvidia pushes people towards the card they want

#

they constrained 4090 production for awhile to push 4080 sales

ashen spindle
#

how is 4090 production constrained when it's in stock almost every day

lofty pivot
#

it is now, but for awhile it wasn't and it was tricky to get 4090s in certain places

ashen spindle
#

where is the info from that the 4090 was getting lowered production

lofty pivot
#

they were some leaks awhile ago

#

i'm not sure if they raised production back up or not now, but 4090 was constrained for awhile

ashen spindle
#

who brought the leaks though

lofty pivot
#

would have to look it up

#

i'm still not sure what's being debated though

#

retail sales are just that, retail sales

#

and gpuz testing numbers are never going to be an accurate representation of retail sales

ashen spindle
#

ofc not but its the best tool we have for numbers and you brought up they limited 4090 production to sell 4080s so I'm curious where that is from

lofty pivot
#

no they're not

#

why is gpuz the best tool we have for numbers

ashen spindle
#

whats a better one?

lofty pivot
#

it's like sampling a reddit tech community and asking if they prefer apple or windows

#

it's going to naturally be extremely biased towards the crowd you sample

#

i mean couldn't we just look at the actual retail sales and or nvidia quarterly statements

#

they're a public company so they have to release a lot of the info

ashen spindle
#

yeah but not exact sales numbers lol

lofty pivot
#

i mean even if we want to take the gpuz stats alone, they're so warped already as is

ashen spindle
#

and gpuz has a sample size of a million in that list, the mindfactory list is not even 4k sales

lofty pivot
#

unless we're to believe there are that many more 4090s sold than everything else

#

which is absolutely not true

ashen spindle
#

why not

lofty pivot
#

because it's never been that way for any graphics card ever?

#

the top end graphics card is never the most sold

#

and gpuz stat is so insanely in favor of that being the case by such a gigantic magnitude that it doesn't seem like it's accurate unless 4090 has broken the trend of every gpu series ever released up until now

ashen spindle
#

on the steam survey the 4090 has 0.3% the 70ti has 0.15%

lofty pivot
#

sure, i could see that being true

ashen spindle
#

it has a lot more sales than any other 40 card on steam so that adds up

lofty pivot
#

4070ti hasn't been out as long

#

so it would make sense that 4090 was higher on steam survey

pale sigil
#

How much is the 4070ti

#

I've been out of the loop for ages

ashen spindle
#

799

lofty pivot
#

weekly sales is not the same as year to date sales of a card

pale sigil
#

Ouch

lofty pivot
#

if anything the fact that the steam survey was what february? meaning in the one month of sales there were already half as many 4070ti as 4090s

#

so it means over that period of time it's likely that 4070tis out sold 4090s

pale sigil
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Hot damn the 4070ti is underwelming.

lofty pivot
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it's a pity because the actual series is great performance wise. solid performance jump without being as crazy hot as the 3000 series, but all of it prices a couple hundred more than it would be pre covid

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oh steam actually tells us the percentage change from last survey - there you go, an easy way to have accurate-ish look at cards used

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0.18% increase jan > feb for 4070ti, 0.07% increase for 4090 jan > feb

pale sigil
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Nice, so im changing ISP and they are giving me 6 months completely free 😄

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Then i contract with them if i choose to stay.

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Its a UK scheme atm to replace all copper and switch people to proper fibre networks.

reef patrol
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Good luck with the transitional period 😄

pale sigil
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wdym? im timing it so ill have two connections at once pretty much.

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Getting it 2 weeks before my current internet goes.

reef patrol
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Oh that's nice - Here you often go internet less for up to two weeks xD

pale sigil
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I mean you could here tbf but im timing it so i dont haha

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But worst case i use my phone....

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just no downloading porn games for me.

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Its nice, ive been waiting a long time for proper fibre....

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Sick of having decent download but horrible upload and the price is more reasonable.

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Its 35 quid for 500 up and down.... current its 48 quid for 330 down and 20 up ..... or 40 if i resign a contract

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But i also want to get Gigabit possibly.

cursive summit
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Who are these tools

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Even the opening statement doesn't make any sense "profound risks to society and humanity"

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Like.. advancing the human species?

ashen spindle
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Yeah who they are

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Idk

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Never heard of Elon musk

cursive summit
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Lol what

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Stability AI's CEO signed this?

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Why tf did Musk also sign it if he's related to OpenAI

pale sigil
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Anyone got any suggestion for wireless headpones that are not to big or expensive?

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price range 80 sterling poudies max

cursive summit
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HeadPHONES?

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Or will in-ears do?

pale sigil
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No

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I told you multiple times they hurt.

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No matter what i try they hurt.

cursive summit
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I have wireless in-ears I have been rocking for a few years now and the sound quality is like higher end IEMs

final flame
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Well there's not much that is good in that price range

pale sigil
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When i say good

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i mean not shit

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:p

cursive summit
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I don't know any headphones that are wireless

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Like the only thing that comes to mind is the Deva

final flame
pale sigil
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i dont want mega super nice audio for outside

cursive summit
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But that's above 100

pale sigil
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just some that are alright really

final flame
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Do you mind doing mods

pale sigil
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Yes

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Im cursed

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i need warranty

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Anker Soundcore Life Q30s have good ratings

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tbh

cursive summit
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Yeah I can't really see anything good

final flame
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Just get the soundcore and put a wavelet autoeq on them tbh

pale sigil
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I wont use these for my PC etc

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Oh right

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android app

final flame
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Yea

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Wavelet is system wide eq on android

pale sigil
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im just sick of getting either good in ears that hurt or ones that die and replacing them.

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I used headphones a lot at UNI, my old ATH-M50xs

final flame
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Have you've ever tried actual good iems before? Like something from moondrop or another good iem maker

pale sigil
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My fave pairs were Soundmagic ones, on the higher end.

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But i tried a few last year yes, ones suggested from audiophile reddit

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and Ares

final flame
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Because honestly, the only times I've ever had discomfort was when using cheap consumer stuff, audiophile stuff I've never really had issues with

pale sigil
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My ears are shit

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Or well the inner

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and also another issue is i have severe wax problems

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So they get blocked A LOT, even if i clean my ears.

final flame
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Have you've tried different tips, like spring tips or spinfits or foam tips

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Generally the people with more wet and liquidy earwax will clog filters more easily especially in humid weather, there are tips that have a filter built in to prevent you from having to replace the iem filters too often

pale sigil
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Another thing to note is;

  • I dont like seals, eg earplugs
  • My ears pop a lot with them it hurts
  • I get ear ache quickly
  • Even the smallest tips struggle to stay in
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Lol i have pics that would prob make you gag

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Showing my wax issues

cursive summit
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Oh god no

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Some of the worst things I have ever wore

final flame
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It really depends

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Some foam tips are better than others

pale sigil
final flame
pale sigil
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tbh

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^

final flame
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Yea that's nothing

gusty kiln
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RIP JOLED is kill

pale sigil
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i cant really find my worse pics

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sadly

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but every single time i had to clean them out

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it was tedious af

final flame
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If you need to clean your ears get a pipette and fill it with hydrogen peroxide and let it sit in your ears for a bit

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Wash your ears out in the shower

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Those are the main methods

reef patrol
# pale sigil it was tedious af

I know the pain - Got them strong af sweat/earwax genes. I genuinely have two sprays I have to use to keep mine in check. One loosens it as a general maintenance thing, the other is something I spray in, pad with water resistant cotton padding (basically plugging it in) and leaving for half an hour for more emergency use.

Yes I have had to visit a doctor for a high powered rinse a couple of times when I accidentally pushed it in, instead of getting it out. Not fun to be partially deaf due to earwax on one ear for up to a week.

sharp badger
cursive summit
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Or just 3d print your own

sharp badger
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Yes that would be doable if one is available 👀

cursive summit
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Commission it locally

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It isn't that expensive to do that

sharp badger
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Don't know any local place though but could check it out or just buy one 😅

pale sigil
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It sucks

reef patrol
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Thankfully the stuff I have does most of the work. Just gotta remember to spray - And then rinse ears with my shower head at high power when I shower 😄

sharp badger
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Dislike in-ears because of that ear wax but yeah maintenance is key 😅

cursive summit
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Just buy an ear spoon

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Easy ear maintenance

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I used to have terrible clogs, then I found out that those exist

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Been clog free for years

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Risk free as well as long as you aren't, you know, stoopid

sharp badger
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Yeah don't want to puncture eardrums 🙉

cursive summit
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q-tips are the worst culprit of clogs and puncturements

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It's such a bad design that idk why it's still in use

reef patrol
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They make cleaning keyboards a breeze though 😄