🔌│tech

[ashen spindle]

yea mem clock being stock was one of the first issues that caused high idle power and got fixed

but perhaps not fixed for high refresh cases? not really a common tested case

or perhaps it is fixed on windows drivers hard to say

[thick elk]

I guess linux situation is a bit different: https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/drm/amd/-/issues/2315

[ashen spindle]

the usual then, pray and good luck

[thick elk]

Reading through it it seems to be a difficult issue to solve and still bound to hardware limitations still I have never had a gpu with lower idle power on a tripple monitor setup

Just did a test on windows and while 2x high refresh rate does work there, triple monitor will still be 80w and high memory clock

[ashen spindle]

ah

[thick elk]

Either way it's something I have had in all gpu's but if they ever manage to fix it with 2, at least on my new cpu I can move an extra monitor over to the igp

[ashen spindle]

time to runt he 3rd screen via the igpu then xD

[thick elk]

because I use 3 on the gpu and 1 on the igp already

[ashen spindle]

oh lol

[thick elk]

the skylake igp doesn't work with 144hz

1440p

Or coffee lake, same thing really

Also as it stands the issue with multi monitor high refresh rate on linux still exists anyway

I am glad I can at least use the igp on linux, back when I still used my nvidia gpu connecting an extra monitor to the igp just didn't work.
I had to either use a mst adapter which kind of sucks, or disconnect a monitor to use my valve index.

[ashen spindle]

ye likely will have to do that too once I get a deckard

because high end nvidia gpus cant afford an upgraded display engine either zzz

[thick elk]

My experience is mst adapters suck, it seems like either the adapter sucks or nvidia does not pay enough attention to work around their edge cases. On amd I have not had to use one at least.

[ashen spindle]

I think the display engine is the same since turing so probably not a lot of edge cases covered

not something I used to pay attention to tbh

[thick elk]

It usually works fine but display disconnects and replugging the mst adapter can cause system crashes, Mostly experienced it on linux but also on Windows

Using the igp is generally a good option if you don't plan to game on a monitor and it supports your resolution + refresh rate.

[ashen spindle]

well

zen3 doesnt have an igpu

[thick elk]

That is true

It's also recent enough not to warrant another upgrade

there could also be the option to run a cheap secondary gpu for display out

[ashen spindle]

well first will be to see if lowering second display to 60hz would work otherwise I just disconnect that when using vr

annoying but not an issue

[fickle ore]

Where is 7800 xt

7700 xt

im pissed

[ashen spindle]

yeah idk, they dont have events like nvidias GTC and I doubt it will take till computex

maybe during some investor call or so will we get some infos

[fickle ore]

Yeah its weird to me, no releases for months or leaks

Yeah maybe

Isnt Nvidia's next week

[ashen spindle]

ya think so

well leaks makes sense we know most stuff just not real performance or release

[cursive summit]

I got a calendar noti just for that

On Tuesday the 21st

[ashen spindle]

has anyone tried the rtx video super resolution for videos? doesnt seem like I can get it to run properly

[autumn igloo]

what are Lekker Spring Linear50? what are they for?

[ashen spindle]

lighter springs to mod your switches

[autumn igloo]

are they better than the stock ones in the wooting 60he?

[autumn igloo]

how many are there per package?

[ashen spindle]

they are lighter so the bottom out force is 10cN lower

[autumn igloo]

Does lubricating the switches make it more in the game since you get your keyboard new or is it just an auditory modification and that's it?

[ashen spindle]

how many is on the page

[autumn igloo]

50?

[ashen spindle]

no thats the bottom out force

[ashen spindle]

what

[autumn igloo]

where is written how many there is in a box?

[ashen spindle]

on the store page for the item?

[reef patrol]

Lubing doesn't make a switch "better" - Just changes how it looks and feels. Which MIGHT produce some amount of personal improvement due to less frustration 😄

[autumn igloo]

oh okey

https://next.wooting.io/product/lekker-switch-springs

[autumn igloo]

I don't understand how many there are

[ashen spindle]

literally the first words of the description say it....

[reef patrol]

120 springs 😄

So about 15 more than a fullsized 2HE would need.

[autumn igloo]

120 switch?

[reef patrol]

https://tenor.com/view/the-simpsons-springs-bounce-back-punch-homer-gif-7177313

Springs.

[autumn igloo]

wtf

[reef patrol]

You buy the bag of springs alongside some lube and tools to swap out the standard 60cn springs in the switches you already have with 50cn ones.

Slightly lighter.

[autumn igloo]

whatever, I understand, tomorrow I'll add to the order if I can the lubrication kit and lee springs

[reef patrol]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WN_-GYLTfpY
This video covers everything in detail.

[autumn igloo]

https://next.wooting.io/product/lekker-switch-springs

https://next.wooting.io/product/blank-switch-toolkit

these two

[autumn igloo]

ty

what changes from ://blank Switch tool set & Wooting Lubricants to Wooting Lubricants & ://blank Switch tool set

[ashen spindle]

same thing

[autumn igloo]

in the shop there are two options

[ashen spindle]

same thing

[autumn igloo]

oko

[autumn igloo]

@ashen spindle to have a better experience you also need to see how much a keycap weighs in grams and obviously the quality of the material?

[ashen spindle]

huh

I dont know what you want to do with the weight of a keycap?

[autumn igloo]

https://www.amazon.it/dp/B0BPM828RW/?coliid=I3LY68AQR4KF4K&colid=1WJW2FFF8FJJ2&psc=1&ref_=lv_ov_lig_dp_it

what do you think of these keys (not aesthetically)

[autumn igloo]

IDK

[ashen spindle]

I use the stock pbt caps

[autumn igloo]

I think it affects the weight of a keycap

[ashen spindle]

and what do you need to weight for? I dont follow what you are trying to say

[autumn igloo]

I'm saying that I think heavier keys are heavier than others whether they are pbt or abs, for custom keycaps you will also need to see the weight per keycaps I suppose... if a keycap weighs 1kg I would say it's worse than a keycap that weighs 1 gram

[ashen spindle]

yeah if you look for keycaps made out of pure metal perhaps

[mild dome]

Most plastics are going to be around the same weight
The only possible issue you could run into is with Ceramic/metal keycaps

[autumn igloo]

yes but it was an example

to make you understand the concept

[autumn igloo]

ok thz

[mild dome]

There is a ceramic keycap maker. Apparently the spacebar weighs 20g, which is enough to make the return on lighter springs slower

[autumn igloo]

so these keycaps are "equal in terms of performance" to the stock wooting keycaps, only the aesthetics change

[autumn igloo]

how much an optimal space bar should weigh

[mild dome]

Plastic is very lightweight. You aren't likely to feel much of a difference, even if the keycap is substantially thicker and bigger.

[autumn igloo]

perfect thank you all for the info, now my only problem is being able to change the ordered keyboard (iso-uk just white) to (ansi united states) before it arrives in stock

@mild dome and @ashen spindle

[wheat plume]

This feature makes it seem using f-droid is a crime xd

[final flame]

Where have I seen that number before?

[pale sigil]

@empty wrenanother example of something id print myself

https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:3571955

[empty wren]

That would be a good idea for laptop airflow

[pale sigil]

https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:3710233

[empty wren]

That one might need to be bolted down

[pale sigil]

Markup is stupid to buy stuff like this

[empty wren]

Indeed it is

But say like you only needed one thing or to fix something it is not so bad

Also in some instances there are technologies that are out of consumer reach like SLS

[pale sigil]

14 quid lol

[empty wren]

Ah you mean like an actual profuct

To be honest some of these could even just be copied easily

And then printed for pennies

[pale sigil]

Thats my point my dude

they are on thingverse

[empty wren]

Fair enough

I will tell you this though if you want the stand to look pretty you might need to sand it just a bit

[pale sigil]

haha ik

[empty wren]

3d printing concrete shows "z axis banding"

[pale sigil]

21 bloody quid

fuck it

aliexpress itis

[empty wren]

AliExpress can go really cheap

[pale sigil]

these are all ali express tbh

[empty wren]

Oh

[pale sigil]

Or well

they are resold on amazon

[empty wren]

Exactly

[pale sigil]

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005004907970182.html?spm=a2g0o.productlist.main.87.53043bcfJesuH1&pdp_ext_f={"sku_id"%3A"12000030979830153"}&pdp_npi=3%40dis!GBP!14.6!1.01!!!!!%40211bf31716792744268678388d06ce!12000030979830153!sea!UK!1652213131&curPageLogUid=zRYK9kmTFHbj

just make a new account

ez

[empty wren]

They got one thing going for em

It is made of metal

[pale sigil]

meanwhile no silicone on the sides

[empty wren]

Really hoping they did not think putting silicone at the bottom would really prevent scratches

[pale sigil]

Swear to god

Every time I need my pen drive it goes missing but when I don't need it the damn thing appears everywhere.

[wild cipher]

what

[empty wren]

Maybe just keep it plugged in your desktop

[crisp granite]

beautiful cases

but the cost...

jesus
if I had the money and nothing else to put into though, totally would have

they were GORGEOUS

[frozen ingot]

seeing this trend with a lot of companies in the tech/electronics sector

[crisp granite]

idk if Louqe made it tbh

they had a fire sale, and still selling those parts

but no updates in the past couple months

they've been quiet

https://tenor.com/view/shrek-shrek1-shrek-and-donkey-shrek-its-quiet-shrek-its-quiet-too-quiet-gif-26487755

[frozen ingot]

as usual the little guy gets fucked over while corpobros gets to further devour the market

[crisp granite]

usually the little guys are just producing a product that is too expensive, so they try to make it up on the quality or capability front

in the case of the Winter One

that thing was...

500 USD?

even for ITX cases it was on the large side, and so

so fucking expensive

[primal robin]

This might be a dumb question, but this is my first time buying a keyboard and I want to customize it, so I want to buy new key caps. Is there any specific ones I need to look for? Like do keycaps have different fits?

[crisp granite]

yes

and good luck stumbling upon a keycap set that WON'T fit

MX is the dominant standard on the keyboard market, and you'd have to go out of your way to find something else like EC or ALPS mount

[primal robin]

Alright thank you!

[true quest]

wouldn't that be x and z

[empty wren]

Reason I call it and others as zbanding is because you see the artifact on layer stacking

X and y essentially exist on the same plane

Z is typically used very shortly for just increase height

Now probably it is more correct to say xyz banding but again this issue has a lot to it

It could very well be minor layer shifts occuring in the x or y axis as the z moves up to the next layer

It could also be insufficient tolerance runout on the extruder gears and how they mesh

Material diameter also can play a role, not that long ago the industry standard was ±0.05 at 1.75

To be honest for the house at least that would be quite feasible

Since it is likely hollow

[misty saffron]

what

[gritty bear]

Any recommendation for a wireless mouse, looking to replace my deathadder elite wired from 2019

[tender abyss]

@gritty bear you if you love the adder shape a lot you could just go for the deathadder v3 pro wireless.

[misty saffron]

superlight has excellent battery life

mine must’ve ran for 2 or 3 weeks on one charge

[solemn remnant]

party time excellent

[tender abyss]

I'm rocking model d wireless. It's been a great mouse for the year I had it.

[reef patrol]

Mine lasts about a week or so with +9 hours of daily use.

So I just leave it plugged in when I shut down on Sunday evening and it's ready again monday morning (it charges in less than an hour)

If that isn't enough, you can apparently pop in a larger battery from a different Logitech mouse.

[tame hedge]

MISLEADING

DAV3 has a new shape

I've heard it's more of a mix between the mamba and deathadder but it ain't the deathadder shape. Still a good shape, just not the same

[tame hedge]

My starlight lasts about 2wk with social isolation level usage... pretty good coming from my HSK+ that lasted about 2 days max under the same conditions
my RVU was also like 4 days...

[tender abyss]

If you are that picky about the shape sure lmao. Most casuals aren't.

[tame hedge]

huh

you said "if you love <x shape> get mouse with <x shape>"

[gritty bear]

might get a superlight

[tame hedge]

i was saying the 2nd mouse is y shape

not x shape

[gritty bear]

whats the difference between pro and pro X?

[tame hedge]

g pro wireless is heavy and has right side buttons

g pro x superlight is midweight and lacks right side buttons

[old marlin]

80g is not heavy

[tame hedge]

meh

[solemn remnant]

how is it midweight if it says it's super light bro

[gritty bear]

compared to a deathadder its probs superlight

[old marlin]

it's just that newer mice tend to be a bit lighter

[ivory pasture]

lol

[old marlin]

but most of them are neither "fullsize" not have solid shells

[tame hedge]

unsure if this is a joke

[tender abyss]

G pro x is also micro USB which is icky in 2023

[old marlin]

dav3 is like the same weight

[tame hedge]

solid shell generally only adds like 3g ish (depends on the mouse)

[solemn remnant]

that doesn't even matter mm?

[gritty bear]

i'd rather get a lighter mouse

[old marlin]

not like you can retrofit it though

[gritty bear]

might try out the logitech superlight, i only use the two buttons on the side anyway

[tame hedge]

True but I was saying non-solid shells are more of a """micro"""optimization rather than the big factor

[solemn remnant]

I have two superlights myself, might switch to something some day I don't care about going lighter or anything

[tender abyss]

It will if you plan to keep it long term. There is a reason why most mice have switch to type c.

[solemn remnant]

definitely light enough for me, I want to feel something in my hand

[tame hedge]

anyway I see about 55-70g as the midweight range in the modern age, considering all the sub-50 mouse releasing

[old marlin]

they are just a way to get away with shit internal design

[tame hedge]

and obviously that is a very contemporary term as it wasn't too long ago that 60g wired was considered light

[old marlin]

never really was "lightish" for wired mice

[tame hedge]

ultralight?

[old marlin]

by the time something around that weight became the norm so did wireless

ultralight was quite a bit less

also not "lightish"

[tame hedge]

ultralight 1 was 67g

[old marlin]

or do you mean the old ultralight

[tame hedge]

and wired

[old marlin]

which was closer to 70

then to 60

also wasn't "lightish"

only finalmeme around that weight was the a58

which was very light at the time

[tame hedge]

god can you stop picking on wording that stopped existing before you even replied

[old marlin]

60g still is considered light though

[tame hedge]

again in the modern age, I see 60g wireless as midweight due to all the sub-50 mice releasing

specifically a very contemporary term

[old marlin]

yea but if I compare a dav3 at "62g" (in reality a bit less vs something like a pulsar x2 mini at "52g" then I compare mice in completely different size classes

even a gpx is quite a bit larger

[solemn remnant]

love how you two are always bickering about some super trivial shit

[tame hedge]

autism

[old marlin]

autism + years of mr have conditioned me

[tame hedge]

mr?

mousereview?

[old marlin]

mousereview

[tame hedge]

Yeah I.. never really see arguments like this happen when 1 or more party is NT

[old marlin]

NT?

[tame hedge]

neurotypical

aka ""normal""

[old marlin]

ah

well

it is a community dedicated for peripherals

[tame hedge]

the opposite is ND (neurodivergent) and includes autism and many others

[solemn remnant]

windows nt

[old marlin]

what do you expect

[tame hedge]

Haha I don't specifically mean regarding peripherals, but in general about any small thing

especially what words mean

[misty saffron]

you were just talking about mice

what

[tame hedge]

we have like a gaydar but for autism

[brittle edge]

What would you guys pay for a 3080 Ti in 2023? Is 700€ a good deal or should i wait for the 4070?

[vagrant pagoda]

https://wccftech.com/china-customs-seize-electronic-scooter-with-84-ssds-taped-inside/

[tame hedge]

💀 these smuggling efforts are hilarious

[wheat plume]

LOL WTF

Also, why are they smuggling SSDs? Are SSDs hard to find in China?

aha!

[tame hedge]

i dunno but i've seen a fake-pregnant woman trying to hide hundred(s) of CPUs too

it's.. weird

cheaper maybe? tax reasons?

[wheat plume]

o.o

[wheat plume]

I see Linus is going back on what he said a few months ago

[mossy plinth]

He even went to say he prefers the added 4K motion blur for new content

But says anything with film grain is ruined with this Nvidia software

[ashen spindle]

idk if it counts as going back when it's something that wasn't possible before, also his opinion != their videos clickbait title

[reef patrol]

That's on him, not the viewer.

[ashen spindle]

which part

[wheat plume]

Yeah...but back when youtube were proposing the idea, he was agreeing with paying for 4K

[reef patrol]

The title backpedaling.

[wheat plume]

thats what I mean about he went back

[ashen spindle]

did you even watch what the video is about

[reef patrol]

Yes - That doesn't change the implication of the thumbnail and title.

[gaunt holly]

Honestly 3080ti or wait for the new series

[ashen spindle]

and based on the video he would probably still say the same now, especially if VSR isn't available for you since that isn't working for every gpu

[gaunt holly]

I have 3060 pretty good but I might sell and buy a 3080ti with 390hz monitor

[ashen spindle]

if the 3080ti is new and not used, yeah I'd take that at 700 probably

otherwise if its used a 4070 is likely a better deal

[wheat plume]

Vencord is against Discord TOS, but can they ban you just using it for themes?

[reef patrol]

CAN? Yes.
WILL? Hard to say.

[wheat plume]

probably can ban you for using Fake Nitro though to get the Nitro themes for free

[ashen spindle]

just dont email them that you use it and youre good

also everyone can ban you for anything at any given time usually when you use someones service

[final flame]

or post screenshots of your discord in a partnered server

[brittle edge]

used founder edition is 650-700€ on Ebay. I saw the ekwb founders edition wb is on sale for 141€ now which is a plus

[wheat plume]

👀 I think they want money and people to join their Discord, but I could be wrong

[ashen spindle]

since a 4070 should cost around that much in new and can likely pus around the same results I would wait for that and then get it new

if I look at used I'd want the prices to be at least 20% lower compared to new of the same class

[brittle edge]

probably true, i wait then i guess

[ashen spindle]

because if it does have some issues and you need to RMA or fix something, I would at least want that much of a discount for it to be worth my time. also it's shorter warranty even if it doesnt have any immediate issues

[wheat plume]

Vencord is a Trojan...

ooof

[ashen spindle]

Vencord gets flagged as a Trojan*

[tropic nacelle]

Probably best to just not use it and tolerate the basic discord UI.

[ashen spindle]

Either that or just not be surprised that false flags with 2 out of 69 vendors happen when looking at something that literally hooks itself into a 3rd party program

[wheat plume]

Fair point, the Centrifuge installer also got flagged for me and thats just a mod loader for Unity games

[ashen spindle]

wait you actually thought that thing is a virus?

[wheat plume]

my friends antivirus automatically quarantined it when he tried to open it..

[hollow carbon]

there is software tools that can be labeled as malicious like a os install kali linux few years ago that nuke my notification like crazy when trying to set up a external computer with it

(kali linux os) pretty much can be used for pen testing or other legit uses but also for hacking etc

so pretty much the antivirus not always the best when it comes to what is a threat or not
but if unsure best to leave it alone and google it / check the check sum to see if it matchs

[mossy plinth]

Some AVs will do that for exes not ran on a lot of machines as a precaultion

[wheat plume]

Id assume the checksums match, I got it from the github releases

Unless their github was overtaken by someone

[ashen spindle]

and what would the checksums do here

[pale sigil]

Everything is but better discord hasn't really had reports of bans unless if was malicious stuff afaik

Then again not everyone reports

[wheat plume]

Kali Purple 💜

https://youtu.be/ChtnZtTMUGU

he got fucking fast ass internet

download 3.5gb in like 8 seconds

[gusty kiln]

The Noctua 4080 costs as much as a reference 4090

[ashen spindle]

uhh doubt it

gigabit is not that fast

[astral haven]

thats 5 gig internet required

5 gig internet is available to me if i want

[ashen spindle]

the moment he clicked download it already was at 2.6gb

so uh, I think its editing not faster internet

[astral haven]

thats alooot more likely lol

[ashen spindle]

because then its lines up with a gigabit if its like 10 seconds for the rest of the download

[ashen spindle]

hmm tried after restarts today but I cant seem to get RTX video upscaling to work, anyone else tried that so far?

should work 30 series and up

tried incognito to see if adblock caused issues, couldn't see it working either

idk, we dont know which parts of the tensor cores are used and how heavily, maybe they can but nvidia locks it out

was hoping to see how well it works with the new trigun since that should smooth it out nicely when the stream is only 720p

[astral haven]

did you enable it and set it to 4?

[ashen spindle]

yes

[astral haven]

im also pretty sure for the moment its 3840x2160 only

[ashen spindle]

I mean I used some 360p videos to make sure I can see a difference

no higher power usage or usage in task manager either

and since this is what it says I doubt they only made it work if it sees a 4k screen and not just upscale it and then have it at 1440p for me

[astral haven]

strange

dunno

[ashen spindle]

hardware acceleration is on as well

??? wtf is this

[reef patrol]

Lets the OS select between iGPU and GPU for anything demanding I suppose.

[ashen spindle]

well yeah but I am confused why its a mandatory step if I am to believe this

going to try it but I dont even have an igpu so if that is the reason that would be dumb

ok wasnt the reason at least xd

time to try edge I guess

[astral haven]

yea it just worked for me

difference was quite minor tho...

[ashen spindle]

oh yeah I dont expect too much but might as well if I have the option

at least to see if I prefer it

[reef patrol]

Using Edge is never mandatory.

[ashen spindle]

guess I could try a clean install with DDU as well

[astral haven]

it is if you want to use bing chat on pc lel

[reef patrol]

Same answer 😄

[crimson wigeon]

Just fake yer useragent

[astral haven]

id love to see that working but I just dont think it will happen

[ashen spindle]

yeah edge did not make it work either

maybe once they update it so I can at least see if it thinks its running or not I can bother troubleshooting it

really dont understand how they could not add anything that would indicate it is running

[astral haven]

its an early feature

[ashen spindle]

launch day faq even mentions they are looking at adding it, just add some indicator anywhere

its not launched as beta feature or anything

[astral haven]

gsync took 3 years before it got an indicator afaik lol

[astral haven]

nvidia considers anything not enabled by default or available in geforce experience a beta feature

[ashen spindle]

maybe if they wouldn't advertise it in GFE I would buy that argument

[astral haven]

they advertised the minecraft rtx and quake 2 rtx betas in geforce experience 🤷

[ashen spindle]

yes but they called that a beta iirc

[astral haven]

neither of those were

[ashen spindle]

oh yeah also that seems to not be a thing anymore either lol

at least I dont have the setting anywhere in my control panel

[astral haven]

its in the top menu when you have gsync enabled

[ashen spindle]

ah

uh, now where is the indicator supposed to be though lol

[astral haven]

its pretty obvious

[ashen spindle]

then I guess its not actually on

bc I dont see anything that is an indicator

[astral haven]

its green text so if your screen is all green you wont see it ig

actually now its grey

afaik no, at least it didnt used to

[ashen spindle]

does steam overlay fuck with it?

[astral haven]

nope

[ashen spindle]

because neither restart nor changing it to fullscreen made it appear

[astral haven]

how do you know gsync is active?

again it doesnt show if gsync is enabled only when its active

[ashen spindle]

because my fps goes low enough and fluctuates in cities with players enough that I see when it tears or not lol

[astral haven]

🤷 and you know it isnt just regular vsync working how?

[ashen spindle]

because it would be weird if toggling g sync in the control panels toggels v sync in my game

[astral haven]

gsync requires vsync to be enabled in nvcp...

[ashen spindle]

what

[astral haven]

enabling gsync only allows the monitor to change hz
to actually get the gpu to sync with the monitor you need to enable vsync

[fickle ore]

u dont need vsync for gsync

[astral haven]

and its not at the game level

[ashen spindle]

ah looking at the blurbusters article I remember

[astral haven]

in game vsync doesnt work

only nvcp vsync does

[ashen spindle]

https://blurbusters.com/gsync/gsync101-input-lag-tests-and-settings/15/ stuff is easy to misremember when you dont go over it often in detail

anyway, vsync is on in 3d settings, g sync is on

[astral haven]

and the gsync indicator is missing?

[ashen spindle]

indicator is on, nothing to see

yup dont see any indicator anywhere

[astral haven]

its in tiny green text at the top right

[fickle ore]

YOU ARENT WORTHY OF VSYNCED GSYNC

[ashen spindle]

this is my top screen area

[astral haven]

strange

🤷 dunno
have you restarted the pc or just the game?

[ashen spindle]

just the game, can try that I guess

[astral haven]

p sure it needs the driver to reload

[ashen spindle]

Oh yeah could’ve tried reload driver shortcut

aha

restarting pc did also not fix it but not starting it via steam so it doesnt have the overlay did

[astral haven]

hmm

well ive seen pics with both the steam overlay and the gsync indicator...

[ashen spindle]

its not a steam game

[astral haven]

ah

hmm

[ashen spindle]

so maybe that was it

I guess it tried to display it on top of the steam overlay and that made it not appear

because I also had issues with overlay stuff when using reshade and steam overlay

idk xbox stuff is disabled

this comes with win x lol

VSR still nothing though heh

[cursive summit]

We are well into 2023 now

Where's FSR3 news

They helf that conference months ago saying we'll get news soon enough and it's been a wee bit

[ashen spindle]

they said its coming in 2023

that should make it obvious it was never a Q1 thing

[fair gull]

win +g

[ashen spindle]

for dual ccd v cache zen4 you want it unless you want to do that manually

for the rest it doesnt matter

[wheat plume]

Is this screen attention feature part of Android or the ROM I'm using?

Apparently it is part of Pixel Android
Neat

[empty wren]

Motorola and Asus both have it as well

[vagrant pagoda]

5 slot for 4080 Notuca lmao

[ashen spindle]

use rapid trigger and find your preferences

[weary mirage]

do you have any suggestions?

[ashen spindle]

yes use rapid trigger and then find your preferred actuation point

[weary mirage]

can you give screen for settings pls

[empty wren]

Utterly pointless because it differs per user preferences

[ashen spindle]

It is preference, try stock and then adjust there is no point to use someone elses actuation point because you press keys differently

[wheat plume]

Settings > Display > Screen Timeout

[crisp granite]

I don't think that's fitting in an ITX rig any time soon

[brazen tendon]

it does

https://youtu.be/9fXRJWMhZEs

[crisp granite]

the meshlicious is a cheat code
I meant as far as really premium ITX cases

also an L9i for anything with more than 6 cores is kinda sus

[crisp granite]

side panel bulge is totally acceptable

as is using a really low profile cooler that can't really handle anything other than mid range parts at best with decent temps, on a 5700X, paired with a 4080

trying to hide the cock and balls of the build
be ensmoothened

[astral haven]

Linus never said that end users should pay for 4k, only that providers should charge for it

[reef patrol]

Ah yes - The famous "company takes the loss instead of putting it on the customer".

As made iconic by.... literally no one ever.

[ashen spindle]

no thats not what that means

it means for 4k they should charge, but consumers should use vsr if they can

both can be true at the same time

[reef patrol]

Continue arguing all you want that Linus didn't massively backpedal in the title and thumbnail all you want. You're not selling what I'm buying.

[astral haven]

thats the whole point

companies shouldnt be giving it out for "free" and customers shouldnt pay for it

[tawdry ferry]

6950xt. see if its cheaper

[gaunt holly]

bet

[tawdry ferry]

if ur a comp fps player over triple a, these shouldnt even touch ur pc

i have a 6950xt and i play valorant, with a 270hz monitor. it's pretty overkill

i can get a 390hz monitor and it will still be overkill lmao

4070 ti is a terrible value, dont believe the bullshit. If the 4070 is anywhere near the pricepoint of the ti variant, dont even look at it. Quick youtube and google searches will tell you why so

if you want a good laugh, go compare the performances of the 3090ti and the 4070ti

[solemn patio]

🔭 I see my gpu on the chart… far far right/down…

[gusty kiln]

damn my 2080 really that close to an ARC 770 now

[empty wren]

Actually 449.99

You get a savings of one penny

[astral haven]

also whats wrong with the 3060?

[gusty kiln]

4070ti/7900XT will give me 2X perf

[astral haven]

those arent exactly the same tier of performance but both are still true?

[gusty kiln]

?

4070TI and 7900XT are pretty close

[astral haven]

oh xt not xtx

[gusty kiln]

yeah

[astral haven]

fkn amd with this nvidia bs

still sadens me that amd still cant hit the top end

near an extra quarter more perf from nvidia vs amds best isnt the worst place amd has been, but its not great either...

this was quite brutal

and when vega 64 came half a year later for a 1080 worth of performance in the best of case it was beyond sad

[tawdry ferry]

this is why i hate the gaming community sometimes. These mfs are so impulsive that a x60 series is now close to $500 dollars. what the actual fuck

[astral haven]

its actually the fault of buy now pay later

[wheat plume]

Ew...
No thanks

[empty wren]

Good until they start falling apart

[wheat plume]

I dont understand wireless headphones or keyboards
Cause when you need to charge them, they are suddenly wired again

And some wireless boards can't be used while charging... So you don't have a keyboard for an hour or so

Drunk from tiredness

No

I don't use audio books
Don't have the ability to focus on paying attention to the story while doing something else

It would end up as background noise

[astral haven]

Still good for 4k30 1080p60 native just not maxed
And it's good for 4k60 1080p60 maxed with dlss

[empty wren]

Have you heard about our sponsor Audible

[solemn remnant]

how much focusing does laying down require

[empty wren]

you must be enlightened

[wheat plume]

You think as soon as I'm laying in bed in silence that I'm not massively overthinking my life choices and future choices I have yet to make?

[solemn remnant]

that's where the audio book comes in

[gusty kiln]

still torn to get 4070TI or 7900XT

12 GB vram is a lil sus, but frame gen is nice for single player games

[gusty kiln]

oh ewww

even AMD knew to have the UI separate from the game with FSR 1.0

[astral haven]

nvidia knew it too, but its up to the game devs

[gusty kiln]

ah

[astral haven]

fsr looks great in theory lel

Discord
I dont believe you lol

[gusty kiln]

kek, but also the order of our messages

[misty saffron]

i mean it's not wrong

there definitely is a new message since then

[astral haven]

no it is very wrong

its saying 1

[misty saffron]

read "at least 1 new message"

[astral haven]

thats not what it says lel

[misty saffron]

localization issue

[gusty kiln]

what encoder does AMD have again? and how well does it do in Handbrake?

[misty saffron]

Video Code Engine

[astral haven]

amf i believe is what its called in handbrake?

[misty saffron]

VCE – Video Coding Engine – AMD’s early name for its built in encoding hardware
VCN – Video Core Next – AMD’s new name for GPU hardware encoders (VCE / VCN used interchangeably)
AMF – Advanced Media Framework – AMD’s code and tools for developers to work with VCE / VCN```

[astral haven]

yee

[misty saffron]

https://codecalamity.com/amd-re-introduces-the-b-frame/

[gusty kiln]

https://i.gyazo.com/e48797952361262f4101c1d4844b4450.png

seems like nvidia still have a slight edge

[misty saffron]

i'd assume due to those weird spikes

[gusty kiln]

it is

[astral haven]

this is not representative of handbrake tho

cause noone really measures those because you often want to just maximize quality regardless of how long it takes

[modern dragon]

Does anyone here have a GoXLR/GoXLR mini and can recommend it to me or give a fair warning about it?

[solar sluice]

its great, I have the Mini and its one of the best purchases I've ever made

[modern dragon]

What mic are you running @solar sluice

[solar sluice]

rode pocmic

[modern dragon]

Very nice

Streaming?

[solar sluice]

I got it for streaming, but don't do it much any more, I just like the separate audio channels

[modern dragon]

Makes sense

Thanks for your input!

[solar sluice]

sure thing

[cursive summit]

https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/security/google-finds-18-zero-day-vulnerabilities-in-samsung-exynos-chipsets/

Exynos was a good idea

[frozen ingot]

yet another reason to avoid assmung

[reef patrol]

The real question is - How many of these can be patched out 😄

[cursive summit]

Exynos is the reason I am completely against Samsung phones in Europe

They just shove that shite up our throat

Give us snapdragons ffs

[maiden ice]

whats the difference between them?

[cursive summit]

One is shit and the other is less shit

[maiden ice]

great everything is shit

[cursive summit]

Unless it's M1/M2

Those are actually pretty good

Wish snapdragon contested Apple in terms of performance and efficiency

[maiden ice]

aren't those apples chips?

tbf apple is really good at making decent hardware

problem is that they have to be super petty about almost everything

[cursive summit]

Well they prolly invest more into R&D than what Nvidia, AMD, Intel and all of those other tech companies are worth combined

But yeah Apple is a hard no on ethical grounds, screw them

[maiden ice]

yeah

there is a reason i avoid buying new phones from apple

i always get a second hand

i think my last phone that was brand new was the iphone 5

after that ive always just gotten refurbished second hands

[frozen ingot]

ethical

buying tech

[cursive summit]

I wouldn't say jack shit if those chinese workers didn't get paid 10 cents an hour

[frozen ingot]

and you don't think that's the case with just about any tech giant these days

[cursive summit]

Apple's the one that made headlines about it

Didn't see one about others

[frozen ingot]

because they are an easy target for journos

[cursive summit]

Good riddance

[frozen ingot]

since everyone knows about them even outside tech geek circles

[tawdry ferry]

Lack of evidence does not equate to no evidence. Go visit China or any other third world country. You won't praise any company 😆

Shit, u wanna see some wonderful nike factories? I know some in the Philippines and you won't like it 🤣. At this point, if you want to be completely ethical, gotta source ur own shit, and watch them make it

[frozen ingot]

yeah assuming apple are the only ones with these types of skeletons in their closet is

[astral haven]

I mean when you know it's made in Korea you do at least have an inkling that the situation is different...

[ashen spindle]

true, north korea uses different slaves

[cursive summit]

Nvidia's keynote is airing right now

@ashen spindle and some other peeps

[ashen spindle]

doubt think it has any info, gtc opening is just marketing these days

[gusty kiln]

I just wanna see if the 4070 is really going to be 750

[ashen spindle]

idk if they would even launch it there

[gusty kiln]

And they'll probably just talk about path tracing

And Jensen wanting to outlive all of us

[ashen spindle]

tbh I take jensen robot to rule over us over a musk robot

[gusty kiln]

Kekeke

At least he has a real degree

And makes real money from products sales

[ashen spindle]

mostly that but he also has actual skills to back up the big ego

[lunar crown]

Need help forgot whats the shortcut for DEL key for the wooting 60he

[ashen spindle]

https://twitter.com/SkyJuice60/status/1638207682468544514?s=20

SkyJuice (@SkyJuice60)

More details on Grace Superchip efficiency.

"NVIDIA Grace is sampling now with production in the second half of the year." - Mar 2023

"Grace CPU Superchip and Grace Hopper Superchip are expected to be available in the first half of 2023." - Aug 2022

https://t.co/Cnu36ujWrn

Twitter · Mar 21, 2023, 3:55 PM

peak comedy of nvidia to ignore amd in any gpu slides but on cpu slides they ignore intel

[gusty kiln]

Are those arm based?

[astral haven]

yep

[gusty kiln]

Who are biggest supplier of arm based servers?

[final flame]

Gboard?

Arm auto correct to atm

[gusty kiln]

Samsung keyboard

I think it behaves similarly

[ashen spindle]

hard to say, do we count in amazon because they make graviton, do we only count shipments for not personal use then probably some combination of nvidia and whoever distributes the AGX and other formats

[sharp badger]

https://www.igorslab.de/en/cooler-master-v1300-sfx-platinum-the-strongest-sfx-psu/ More powah! 👨‍💻

[reef patrol]

Hold fn then hit backspace. You'll really want to read that helpful quickstart that the box of your board gives you a link to

[gusty kiln]

Can't wait to see one day Jensen gives his usual presentation, then reveal he was competed generated the whole time at the end.

[ashen spindle]

could see that happen at next gpu release

[crisp granite]

O_o

Gotta get myself one

[ashen spindle]

https://twitter.com/SkyJuice60/status/1638210854780030976

SkyJuice (@SkyJuice60)

#GTC23 And here is Grace Hopper!
Doing a quick compare vs GH100's 814 mm², it looks like Grace on TSMC 4N is about 730 mm²!
Pretty large for a 72-core CPU.

Twitter · Mar 21, 2023, 4:07 PM

obviously not the same, but it is funny how well nvidia got into the cpu market vs intel going into gpus

[sharp badger]

What case have you got? 👀

[crisp granite]

Raw S1

If it won’t fit, I do recall the 1100 watt one being standard sfx

[sharp badger]

https://www.coolermaster.com/catalog/power-supplies/v-series/v-sfx-platinum-1300/#specifications It seems that it is SFX ''Size'' 100 x 125 x 63.5 mm , SFX-L is 125 x 125 x 63.5mm like the 1000W ROG Loki

[empty wren]

Yep also made by cooler master

[reef patrol]

1000W according to the latest Linus extreme upgrade

[astral haven]

btw there are two types of sfx

[cursive summit]

https://twitter.com/orexda/status/1638028930199465984?s=46

Connor / 코너 / コナー (@OreXda)

Another NVIDIA Tegra for Nintendo Switch will manufactured from 5LPP.

I will keep uploading this info in Twitter as soon as i can.

Twitter · Mar 21, 2023, 4:05 AM

[astral haven]

sfx and SFX-L

[reef patrol]

Indeed.

[astral haven]

previous max was 850 for sfx and 1kw for sfx-L

now we have 1300w SFX, tho the psu plugs are sticking out instead of being recessed like all the others

https://cdn.coolermaster.com/media/5232/v-sfx-platinum-1300-gallery-02-zoom.png

my corsair sfx is recessed?

[reef patrol]

Fair enough - Linus misspoke then 🙂

[sharp badger]

https://www.thermaltake.com/toughpower-sfx-1000w-gold-tt-premium-edition.html SFX-L

[reef patrol]

https://www.corsair.com/eu/en/Categories/Products/Power-Supply-Units/Power-Supply-Units-Advanced/SF-Series/p/CP-9020186-EU

The SF from Corsair is pretty much THE most popular for the form factor most SFX required cases use.

So 100mm deep.

[astral haven]

ayy thats what ive got

[ashen spindle]

ahahahaha

https://twitter.com/PGelsinger/status/1638234206613667842

Pat Gelsinger (@PGelsinger)

On a bittersweet note, saying farewell to @Randhir_Intel and @RajaXg, both leaving Intel at the end of March.

Twitter · Mar 21, 2023, 5:40 PM

raja going to nvidia to finally beat the 1080 ti?

yeah but seems like he is leaving to make his own software company

[sharp badger]

https://www.anandtech.com/show/18746/the-cooler-master-v-sfx-platinum-1100-psu-review The same dimensions on this as the 1300W one but is it with the "ports"? 🤔

[ashen spindle]

so thats his way to beat the 1080 ti, join it by getting bought up xD

[sharp badger]

Seems like they've put the Samsung G9 competitor up for pre-order https://www.lg.com/us/monitors/lg-49gr85dc-b

[sharp badger]

https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/design-visualization/rtx-4000-sff/ 🤔

https://www.google.com/amp/s/wccftech.com/nvidia-launches-rtx-4000-sff-ada-graphics-card-for-desktops-five-rtx-ada-laptop-gpus/amp/

"The new NVIDIA RTX 4000 SFF GPU will be available from global distribution partners such as Leadtek, PNY, and Ryoyo Electro starting in April at an estimated price of $1,250 and from global workstation manufacturers later this year."

[reef patrol]

The reflection makes it look like a hollow box.

[old marlin]

ah

[sharp badger]

Yeah it does 😅

[old marlin]

I was confused about price for what seemed to be a massive workstation gpu

SFF

[tawdry ferry]

ahh yes, when they were directly tampering with supply and demand. Price (msrp price, not the bullshit artificially inflated price they came out with) jump between the 3070ti vs the 4070ti should be an eye opener for everyone. Hell... just look at the prices of the entry level cards compared to where they were a generation ago or two or three. Kinda nuts honestly

It really doesnt help that everyone just defaults to nvidia either

it's a great clown fiesta to watch tho, thats for sure.

yeah.... i mean... i cant even blame them entirely due to this.... because people are impulsive enough to give in everytime

[crisp granite]

and this price bullshit really brings that into question

going AMD next gen, with no regrets

doesn't matter if it doesn't hold the performance crown
it will be reasonably priced

[tawdry ferry]

fuck, AMD, Intel, something different is always good. I applaud u tho dude ❤️

[crisp granite]

(not 1500 CAD for a fuckin 80Ti level)

[astral haven]

itll only be reasonably priced if it doesnt have the performance crown

[crisp granite]

actually, I remember when the 2080Ti was only 1600 CAD
should have got one then

[crisp granite]

7900XTX vs 4080 would like to have a word

[tawdry ferry]

i dont mind the cards with the poerformance crowns to be overpriced, thats fine

[astral haven]

which is how it is

[tawdry ferry]

but for the 60,70, 80 series to be this much is pretty funny

[crisp granite]

I don't care for the 90 or whatever models

I've always been around the 70-80 models

[tawdry ferry]

the sad thing is amd drivers arent even that bad lmao

[astral haven]

this is how it is

[tawdry ferry]

i havent had any issues with amd adrenaline with my 6950xt. wait, only one, i had to redownload teh driver since teh fps counter wasnt functioning but everything works now

[astral haven]

remember model numbers are marketing, the old 70-80 models are now 60 to 50 models

[tawdry ferry]

well they coincide with the chip that they use

remember the 4080 that they tried to release...

that wasnt really a 4080

that.... was some bullshit is what it was

[astral haven]

yea but people were like its actually a 4070
no
its actually a tier above a titan from previous gens

[tawdry ferry]

performance will always improve every gen

the problem is when they start using weaker chips

[astral haven]

thats very untrue

[tawdry ferry]

so every gen, performance enver improved?

[astral haven]

in the olden days, perf went down and graphical quality went up

[tawdry ferry]

olden days

[astral haven]

you were looking at dropping things to medium to hit 60 at 1920x1200 on flagships
then the next year the game would be significantly harder to run to the point that the previous gen wouldnt even hit 30 at medium

and the next gen would be in the high 50s

[tawdry ferry]

right... but every since early 200's?

or so?

performance has been skyrocketing.

[astral haven]

ever since 2015 maybe 2013 potentially

[tawdry ferry]

especially with the past 4 gens

[astral haven]

point is the model numbers are marketing bs

[tawdry ferry]

polaris for me was the best bang for the buck along with the rx 480 from amd

my 1080 is still being used, bought for 300 usd

[tawdry ferry]

but the chipset they use isnt 😄

[astral haven]

just to convince you to buy a much faster gpu than you would have bought previously
nvidia isnt lying down the stack, they are actually lying up to get people go buy bigger cards than they need

[tawdry ferry]

yeah, thats normal now with them. tbh, i dont even know why i upgraded to a 6950xt when a gtx 1080 is massively fine for valorant

[astral haven]

my point exactly

[sharp badger]

I paid less for my 3080 than my 980Ti

[tawdry ferry]

but i knew what i was getting into, i do play games like calliso protocol so it works out

for my other friends, they just buy nvidia just because its the best and upgrade every 2 generations

[astral haven]

now this isnt quite true if you need vr, where it literally causes physical illness if the performance is too low

[tawdry ferry]

with no solid reasoning

that, i dont understand

[astral haven]

thing is tho

[tawdry ferry]

wth lmao

im assuming u bought a water cooled 980ti brand new?

and a 3080 post bullshit prices, used?

[astral haven]

in terms of compute power you are gaining more even from a horrifically bad gen than even the best gens back in the day
a 10% improvement from one card to another is more performance than any card even had 10 years ago

[tawdry ferry]

yeah, i feel spoiled as these are standard nowadays hahaha

[astral haven]

anyways im gonna buy a 4090

but not any time soon

[tawdry ferry]

it's crazy how easily i forget it wasnt always this way

[astral haven]

theres no arguing its the fastest card of this gen, but im gonna wait to add it to my collection

[tawdry ferry]

id love to see what case youd use with it.

[astral haven]

shelf sitting ornament is the use case

[tawdry ferry]

yeah, no contest really

the thing is

is it wise to buy last gen nvidia cards right now? with the amount of ram they have?

[astral haven]

just dont max out settings

what part of my diatribe did you miss...

[tawdry ferry]

then why buy it at that point is wher eim getting at

it's like the 970 4gb (3.5gb) thing over again

[astral haven]

i collect video cards

lol

[tawdry ferry]

i meant for the general public

[astral haven]

it fast

[tawdry ferry]

for the average gamer who wants to keep a functional card, from 2023 and on.

are they gonna get the 970 3.5gb treatment later on? xD

[astral haven]

with buy now pay later its actually technically lower dollar number in 1 shot

vs previous 80s

[astral haven]

the 970 is what it was and didnt change on release

also the 970 is still a shockingly fast card

[ashen spindle]

I mean a 4090 will have enough ram for a while lel

[tawdry ferry]

last gen brother

[astral haven]

3060 has way more ram than it will ever need

[tawdry ferry]

12gb ram and below

right, until it doesnt. depending on the gaming industry i suppose

[astral haven]

gb of vram is another thing that nvidia has pushed expectations on

the r9 nano is fine

[tawdry ferry]

the storage requirement has skyrocketed. I just wonder if it catches up with the ram. Devs are fkin lazy to optimize and such nowadays. Every game is broken.

[astral haven]

gamers could do just fine with 4gb of vram if they would just turn down the settings

[tawdry ferry]

nobody buys a mid range- high end card to turn down settings

unless its comp

[astral haven]

which is the problem lmao

[tawdry ferry]

well mid range is reasonable but for 4080 and above

[ashen spindle]

consoles having limited ram is making sure AAA games wont try to make use of more vram lel

xbox is so starved on ram

[tawdry ferry]

cant blame them. they optimize well on that end

sucks for us though

[ashen spindle]

no the consoles dont optimize, they bottlebeck lol

[tawdry ferry]

?

they do well enough lmao

and then we eat the shit thats left

[ashen spindle]

series S has too little ram and is limiting devs

[tawdry ferry]

cuz we buy anything anyway

so then rinse and repeat, the cycle continues and we are sad LMAO

[sharp badger]

Bought the Asus 980Ti Strix for 859€ and the Asus 3080 TUF for 759€, both new

[tawdry ferry]

what a deal!

bought my 6950xt for 700 on new egg

great steal for me

[tawdry ferry]

im glad to see others who waited it out man. always great to hear

is the Americas still a console dominated market?

honestly tho

i went from a 360 to pc and pc was just superior

the problem really is the upfront cost for people

because let's be honest, as time goes on, youll spend more on subscriptions and such over a pc

hahaha. I do see that sometimes but i think the overall experience is still way better on the pc because there is so much crap ytou can do and customize

windows also suck dick

[crisp granite]

dear god

what game did that to you lately?

the only game I remember with that problem that I've touched lately was Spec Ops: The Line

if anything from 2015 on had that, there is a problem

[tawdry ferry]

i had frame skipping in league of legends on unlocked frames before LMAO

thats about it for me

[crisp granite]

yeah

that's totally unacceptable

especially in a game that was otherwise really solid

botched multiplayer aside

[tawdry ferry]

yikes

[crisp granite]

back then, you bought a game for the campaign

multiplayer was the fun extra

[tawdry ferry]

it wasnt botched tho most of the time

[crisp granite]

then again, BO4 exists

a game that just...didn't even ship with a campaign

[tawdry ferry]

bro

honestly

that franchise is impressive

the brainwashing theyve done to that community

A1

[crisp granite]

CoD really isn't
other than a masterclass in how to monetise everything short of a mother's breast milk

and I bet actishits is already working on just that

[tawdry ferry]

activision is never wrong for that community bro

they are loyal to the bones

ive had friends who bought the latest one and hailed it as the best release yet, only to forget about it a month later

i mean, it's impressive mind control you know lmfao

[crisp granite]

pretty much sums up my experience with any CoD game tbh

buy it, play the campaign, blitz through the multiplayer, forget it within a week

[thick elk]

Have not really payed much attention lately but how the mightly have fallen: https://www.anandtech.com/show/18778/sponsored-post-give-your-shoppers-the-smooth-experience-they-want-with-aruba-instant-on-networking

[tawdry ferry]

i know but its 70 bucks now. I dont understand how thats worth it

[ashen spindle]

no surprise there

since future bought them they had no chance

[crisp granite]

do people actually pay full price for a CoD game?

[tawdry ferry]

they strip the features, have more game breaking bugs and charge way mopre

[thick elk]

They held on for some time after

[tawdry ferry]

what the fuck

[crisp granite]

I only pay full price for real games

[tawdry ferry]

brother, thats the only way lmfaooo

they got games from 5 years ago still costing 40 bucks LMAO

[ashen spindle]

on the outside only, since future took over they had less budget and could not do things and had to run ads in certain ways

[tawdry ferry]

all hail

[crisp granite]

best and only CoD game worth playing is World at War

that tends to be discounted

and it's worth every penny of it's normal asking price

[tawdry ferry]

agreed, bo2 was great too

i think bo2 has a pretty large multiplayer community still.

but i heard about that years ago so

[crisp granite]

literally me when RE4R

[tawdry ferry]

please, sail the high seas

[crisp granite]

just over 31 hours till

[tawdry ferry]

ohn wow really

fudge it, someone will figure it out

im so bitter lmao

[ashen spindle]

wild idea, if you dont like the price for a game, play a different game

[thick elk]

oh yea they got taken over again in 2018, it does make sense, now. That being said a few sponsored posts is not the end of the world but it's really only down hill from here

[tawdry ferry]

🤣

[crisp granite]

hard agree

why spend 90 CAD on a CoD game when I can spend 90 CAD on RE4R

easy choice for me

[tawdry ferry]

thats literally what im doing?

xD

[crisp granite]

seriously I'm so fucking excited I can barely contain myself omg

[ashen spindle]

yeah Ian talked about it some times on his videos

how it just limited them and would not allow for things they wanted to do

[crisp granite]

especially because the demo was transporting me back to the first time I played RE4 well after launch with the rose coloured lenses, however the fuck you say it

I am ready for the nostalgia overdose

[tawdry ferry]

only one way to find out. sail the high seas test and then buy. or get a demo somewhere again if u can

[thick elk]

In general though written media is tough, especially with the level of depth anandtech went into in the past

[crisp granite]

then again, Leon asking where everyone was going was...pretty much all it took, and that was just in the demo

[tawdry ferry]

gotta do what u gotta do

i dont think one update will drastically change the way a game plays unless it's a massive update

just so you can test it out and see if you want it at least, you know what i mean

[crisp granite]

clearly you haven't played Postal 4 during early access

when they added down sight aim

that was huge

[thick elk]

I really don't pirate pc games anymore, ever since I have gotten comfortable with the idea that I have enough money to buy them.

I did remember pirating cod mw2 multiplayer and having a beter experience than the peer2peer multiplayer on the regular servers

[tawdry ferry]

u missed the part where i said unless it's a massive update

[crisp granite]

that was massive

[ashen spindle]

no need to pirate even without a demo, just use the 2 hour return window

basically a demo

[tawdry ferry]

and that falls under what i said

[tawdry ferry]

yeah ,i do that but my friend does it often enopugh that steam does soemthing to ya lmao

[crisp granite]

most of the cummunity just shrugged shoulders, my dude

[thick elk]

As a kid when I had € 20 a month in pocket money and was to lazy to get a job, pirating was definitely the way to go.

[tawdry ferry]

that the only reason i dont tell people about it

another reason i do pirate is due to anti piracy softwares such as denuvo

i buy the game, but play the pirated version

yes, i tested it and my fps are higher with less hiccups

[thick elk]

The act persisted for longer than that, and fuck playing for games on consoles. As they ban you for running modded systmes anyway

[ashen spindle]

you do know in many cases a pirated version nowadays is the same? xD like hogwarts cracked version still has drm running just faking to be legit

[tawdry ferry]

theres a reason i wait a long time before i play a game

[thick elk]

Seems obvious, stripping the drm is much more involved and something the old guard of crackers tended to do.

[tawdry ferry]

people will always find a way. I dont gotta play the latest shit.

[thick elk]

Especially if the drm gets more interwoven

[crisp granite]

me when RE8
that was so fucked

[sharp badger]

Had some small problems with Hogwarts Legacy but it wasn't that bad

[crisp granite]

and hopefully not with RE4R or I will cry

:\

[tawdry ferry]

xD yeah man

[sharp badger]

But there's a few upcoming games like Starfield, The Alters, Fort Solis & Anger Foot that will probably have some problems from the start as usual

[mild dome]

Irc the cracked version pushed the fps from 70 to 90

[ashen spindle]

version of what

mario party?

[sharp badger]

Yeah 😅

[ashen spindle]

if that was about the cracked version of hogwarts, false

[sharp badger]

But i sooo wish that they'd have some date on a PC release on GOW : Ragnarök 😤

[ashen spindle]

probably by the time the next release comes out or maybe when the next ps gets teased

[sharp badger]

Ah ok and yeah probably 😅

[ashen spindle]

so people always get a taste but delayed to have a reason to get the console

and hey it's working, I'm going to look for a ps5 to get ff16 this summer xd

[sharp badger]

Would be nice to have an updated PSP

[ashen spindle]

it's nice, I would just love to not get one when I have a much much better pc lol

but I am too big of a yoshi p fanboy now to not get 16 on release

[sharp badger]

https://www.eurogamer.net/yoshida-confirms-final-fantasy-16-wont-be-on-pc-six-months-after-ps5-release

[ashen spindle]

yeah they said they will make the pc port after launch but wont be in 2023

and they will not rush that to get some artifical date done

[sharp badger]

Yeah i read that 😀

[mild dome]

https://youtu.be/6MSWvm_WIkM

[ashen spindle]

yes thats bullshit as tested by hardware unboxed

https://twitter.com/HardwareUnboxed/status/1629098984567603201

Hardware Unboxed (@HardwareUnboxed)

Summary of Hogwarts Legacy Steam vs cracked testing so far

R9 7950X, RTX 4080, Ultra + RT: No difference

R5 5600X, RTX 2060, Medium: No difference

R5 5600X @ 1.5 GHz, RTX 2060, Medium: No difference

All Hogsmeade, all at 1080p. Fully CPU limited.

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Twitter · Feb 24, 2023, 12:40 PM

[thick elk]

I respect hardware unboxed quite a lot for their quantity of benchmarks

[sharp badger]

But just don't need a console to gather dust for 1-2 games feels like it's just a waste of money 😅 a portable console would be another story though

[mild dome]

I see

[sharp badger]

It's more something like the Steam Deck but for the PS, Remote play is one way I guess but would need two systems and a stable internet connection

[thick elk]

To me nintendo consoles have always been about nintendo games / indie games, the rest was bonus ever since the wii at least

[wheat plume]

yep, but even Nintendo games now lag on the Switch

cough cough Pokemon and Zelda BOTW

[thick elk]

BOTW was mostly fine for it's scope when it launched, Pokemon is sort of half first party and a different story

[wheat plume]

ok, fair

Pokemon though..

Yeh ...

[thick elk]

It's not a first party nintendo game, it's a gamefreak game.

[wheat plume]

pokemon company?? ooh wow

lol

[gusty kiln]

Woot, someone bought my 3700X

[dense escarp]

switched from 3060ti to 7900 xt today

and man this card is a beast

[gusty kiln]

ooo, I've been eyeing either a 4070TI or 7900XT

[dense escarp]

I was really split between those two too

but decided that 20gb vram is more future safe

[gusty kiln]

Yeah it's basically +10% raster/More Vram vs efficiency and better features

[wheat plume]

I like this feature

[dense escarp]

I'm definitely missing the features Nvidia has but oh well

[gusty kiln]

which version did you get?

[dense escarp]

Just the reference card

[gusty kiln]

Time to see how robust AMD drivers have gotten

[dense escarp]

Definitely worried about them, but we'll see 😂 no problems so far

[ashen spindle]

what are the features you are missing so far?

[solemn remnant]

the huttu juttu show

[ashen spindle]

hm I guess it did somehow just toggle vsync before when I thought it was enabling gsync because since I did the changes yesterday I do sometimes get framedrops as if it was trying to go to 1/2 vsync rate when I usually dont get frame drops in these areas

VRR tech is magic but also cursed sometimes

[gusty kiln]

vsync control panel side and not game side?

[ashen spindle]

yup

not even sure the game has v sync, it has some fps limits but idk if that is just a limit or vsync

[gusty kiln]

mine is set to "Use the 3D application setting"

[ashen spindle]

might just DDU tomorrow and see if that helped, maybe video upscaling is working then too

[gusty kiln]

I guess technically only frame gen is missing big feature. and the whole AI streaming stuff like voice and the background

[ashen spindle]

amd has a voice thing too

thats what I'm curious about what is missing maybe I'm not thinking of, since I went from amd to nvidia and there isn't really anything new for me aside from VSR

[gusty kiln]

at least for microsoft edge, you can also do the same with AMD gpu

[astral haven]

its awful

[astral haven]

and its not upscaling last i checked

[ashen spindle]

never used it so perhaps

[astral haven]

just standard scaling

[ashen spindle]

only ever used rtx voice on my 1080 to stop coworkers mic in big meetings to kill my hearing lel

[astral haven]

lel

[gusty kiln]

is RTX voice relevant for discord?

[astral haven]

if you have a loud anything near your mic yes

mech keebs go clacketty clack

[ashen spindle]

I think AI is ready to take over the world when it can properly set up audio for financial calls where they seem to use the most 1$ sounding mic to ask about billion dollar investments in tech

depends on your mic and how well discords own voice thing fixes stuff for you

works well enough for most

[gusty kiln]

anyone done a comparison?

[ashen spindle]

not that I know of

[astral haven]

it could, but the people talking about billion dollar investments dont want to spend money on basics and also probably dont have the time to learn to be av techs

[ashen spindle]

no but they could tell bank of america or wherever they work at to not buy the cheapest mic that exists in the country for their conferences

[astral haven]

i mean berkshire hathaway use ok mics

only bad quality ive seen has been on zoom calls and the like

[gusty kiln]

this is never not creepy
https://i.gyazo.com/b70c7b430b6df41557c20cbf35a46240.mp4

[astral haven]

and then its just whatever computer they have's built in mic

[ashen spindle]

I have no clue who but I can guarantee you that on ever investor meeting of intel/amd/nvidia that I listen to someone is asking a question with mic quality of 1973

and it is horrible

[astral haven]

yea but its not meeting hosts

[ashen spindle]

because the calls are dial in

oh yeah I know

[vagrant pagoda]

Dial in phones are setup for only human voice

So they should be fine

[astral haven]

anything that travels through the phone network gets completely destroyed quality wise

[fickle ore]

quality costs $$ and you dont become rich buying useless high quality mics!

[ashen spindle]

but if you are investor calling from bank of americ or similar a you should have the setup that others int he call have at least

[astral haven]

no, they are likely calling through a pbx system

[ashen spindle]

or have nvidia use their fucking idle super computer to make the voices not static

[astral haven]

i mean nvidia doesnt let their supercomputers idle?

[ashen spindle]

idk why I wrote idle I mean to write saturn or w/e the current one is they have in HQ lol

[astral haven]

🤷 it has better things to do?

microsoft is trying to convert the voip system to satin but for now the literal top quality dedicated voip protocol is silk and its both not great and often not used

[ashen spindle]

I bet if they can mention how good their AI can make it in the call the investors would actually like it and get a good impression, other than the waste that was DLSS1 upscaling that needed tons of training lel

[astral haven]

yes but if their voice sounds for example like someone else said it, the backlash would be aloooooot worse than just a few gamers complaining for a week

[fickle ore]

they're already calling AI 31 times in the call, 32th time wont increase the stock value 😄

[ashen spindle]

I have enough fait in nvidia that if they test it and then use it a few times later it will work fine

[astral haven]

yes but i dont think you realize how lossy phone audio is

[ashen spindle]

yes but if the 32st time makes it an actual better experience for the people listening at the time, it has a bigger impact

perhaps, idk how well reconstruction can deal with it

I do know how shit it can be lmfao

[astral haven]

the problem isnt how well the reconstruction works
the problem is if it makes the person sound like someone else

[fickle ore]

what does it even matter if u can understand waht they say

[astral haven]

that too

[ashen spindle]

because if I want to listen to the financial outlooks of a >half a trillion$ company in tech and it sounds like the first dial up phone it makes me sad

[fickle ore]

sry ive become annoying granpa

[fickle ore]

[astral haven]

thats just the questions tho not the responses?

[astral haven]

and its better than tesla where its a guy shouting across a factory into a mic

but theres still no problem hearing the responses

[ashen spindle]

there were some calls where the responses were like they talked in a conference room with the door open in a busy company

[astral haven]

well thats unfortunate

[ashen spindle]

and yes its picky, but if AI is supposed to make life better then use it to make it better lol

[astral haven]

speaking of
bard

less powerful, more timid than bing

[ashen spindle]

also potentially trained on gmail data, looking forward to that mess exploding

[astral haven]

if that were true it would be full of spam from twitter, linkedin, and ebay
ill have to wait and see

[ashen spindle]

allegedly just from the trained data that comes from what they have for auto suggestion to complete stuff and all, but that is a fine line of mixing data that you shouldn't mix

[astral haven]

ayy nvidia dun did it
6144b memory bus h100

[astral haven]

i also confirmed they arent using anything from business accounts and its probably covered by the gmail TOS

[ashen spindle]

Doesn’t change that if it can be tricked into replicating what it’s Training data was, that it could explode xD

Not worried if they are breaking tos or not

[astral haven]

🤷 unless 1 person was sending millions of emails with their passwords in plaintext i think itll be fine

tho the thing where one redditor's username from whatever counting subreddit it was breaking gpt is pretty funny