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astral haven
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So its even more software dependent than gen by a long shot

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Arc -_-

reef patrol
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😏

desert creek
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So you’re saying that all previous knowledge intel had with igpu doesn’t count?

ashen spindle
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intels ark website? 😛

astral haven
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Ffs Intel why did they give it the same phonetic name as their reference website

astral haven
cursive summit
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Intel also gave the same name to all of their products

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Like "Intel 13900K" or "Intel A770"

astral haven
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Uh

cursive summit
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Even their wireless stuff is Intel

desert creek
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Then, you got the typical management problem. To be this late to the game and the performance isn’t even matching products that 5 years old is kind of scary

cursive summit
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Idk man Intel needs to fix their naming

desert creek
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That’s just ignorant

cursive summit
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Just confusing the customer with everything being "Intel"

desert creek
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I am all for competition. We need Intel in this game🤣.

astral haven
desert creek
astral haven
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"Your first try is only barely sufficient so you should give up and never do anything"

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Fuck that

desert creek
astral haven
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"missed their chance"

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They have enough cash flow to try again...

desert creek
astral haven
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What?

desert creek
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Ofc

astral haven
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Did you really think their first shot would take a significant chunk of market share?

desert creek
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In consumer GPU market it’s only AMD and Nvidia

astral haven
lapis cypress
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Why you gotta paint it so black and white? Developing products like these takes time, they have a schedule to follow and they tried and they did it well enough for a first/second try... They got their name out there so now everyone is looking forward to their next Gen with an eye on improvements

astral haven
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The apple 1 only sold a few thousand units so apple should have given up and not made an apple 2?

lapis cypress
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They can't just hold on forever to get the "perfect product", you can't run a company like that

astral haven
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Yep

desert creek
astral haven
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That's of the total pc users tam
Not of the gamers tam

desert creek
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Still see it as management problem.

lapis cypress
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In an ideal world, sure you could port igpu driver code to a new architecture for dgpu, but everything in the real world is not as pretty

astral haven
lapis cypress
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They started developing on hardware from 3-4 years probably? They can't continue dedicating resources to this unfortunately

astral haven
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But this is still fixable and has a quite visible path to success

desert creek
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Well, you should know that you dgpu should work with counter strike up on launch 😉

lapis cypress
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It's a business dilemma if anything

desert creek
astral haven
lapis cypress
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Damn been that long?

astral haven
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They just needed a bit of driver dev

lapis cypress
astral haven
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But they basically restarted the project after xe failed

lapis cypress
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Ohhh right I recall now

desert creek
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Well let’s hope these cards stays at 300-500€ so normal people can afford them

astral haven
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Xe was trying to make do with gen drivers and it was awful for anything besides vdi

fickle ore
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Which cards?

desert creek
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A770 and A750

lapis cypress
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How much are cards these days?

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Arc*

fickle ore
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Since cs 2 goes dx12? You think they gonna be THE CS cards?

desert creek
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750 is at 350 something

fickle ore
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I've considered grabbing 770 mm

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Änd thank god, no more needing to bench csgo dx9

astral haven
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On the other hand arc uses dxvk now so it actually runs quite well...

desert creek
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770 is 390€ in France

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WTF..

astral haven
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Excluding vat?

desert creek
astral haven
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That's very sweet

fickle ore
desert creek
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Yeah

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In the Nordic A770 is still at 500€

astral haven
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In the us its still $350 for 770 but it's 250 for 750

ashen spindle
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I mean unless its vastly cheaper than other options I sitll woudnt get it

desert creek
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Should have 16

astral haven
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That 750 looks sweet tbh
But I just bought a card with 3 Intel GPUs on it
Not gonna go for another one any time soon
Many kudos to anyone who can guess the model

astral haven
fickle ore
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Ah yeah it has 2 options

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damnm

desert creek
astral haven
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I'll gladly save 40% by sacrificing vram that can't be used

astral haven
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Also
Used is not equal to needed

fickle ore
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I'd opt prob for 16gb tho I dont know how much games use these days, just to be sure and peace of mind

desert creek
astral haven
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Doubt

desert creek
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I am Running 24gb now

astral haven
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Tho the card I just bought supports 96gb so I can't say anything

desert creek
astral haven
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Yes

desert creek
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Then why do you ask me if it’s needed 😆

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The correct answer is - you can never have enough of memory

astral haven
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I'm saying you don't need it tho
Well if you are getting a GPU in that price bracket

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Better off getting an extra 32gb of system ram with the money you save on 8gb of vram

desert creek
astral haven
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Uh
That's verifiably untrue

fickle ore
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I have a game that takes like 4 min to load from char select

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its not ssd, it has to be the vram lol, or lack of thereof

astral haven
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You may have misconfigured your settings, but DaVinci will stuff as much as possible in system ram at least

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Maybe adobe doesn't?
But that's adobe

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Also again tho
Saving $100 is super worth for practically the same performance

astral haven
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Including video editing performance...

desert creek
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The more complex the project is the more memory it will eats away

astral haven
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Now if you are editing 8k raw or 12k raw you need more, but if you have that kind of budget, get an actually stable card

astral haven
desert creek
astral haven
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Get your work to pay for it

desert creek
astral haven
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My work paid for a Quadro for me and I literally sit on chrome all day

desert creek
astral haven
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Oh yeah well that sucks

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But at that point you are dealing with a niche in a niche in a niche

desert creek
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I sat on 2X Quadro a while back too 🤣

astral haven
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Yes but windows desktop is the most graphically intense thing this Quadro has ever done...

fickle ore
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Yo

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is AMD's SAM still better than nv's

astral haven
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Define better

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Gains you more performance? Yes
Makes the GPUs faster enough to change buying recommendations? No

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You can also think of it like Radeon cards lose 5% performance if you set your bios wrong where Nvidia only loses 1%

desert creek
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Nvidia is like a Mafia Boss atm

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Well if your workflow isn’t that complex you can always SIMP to apple 😆

astral haven
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That's only if apple allows your workflow

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Even if it's very simple, if apple doesn't like it, it's not gonna work

desert creek
astral haven
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Apple is a Mafia boss, Nvidia is just a bad normal boss

desert creek
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But the SIMPS gladly pay 100k usd for their mac pro then get flipped a year after with the M1 pro/max / ultra

astral haven
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Eh
Depends

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Many just keep using all of them

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Unfortunately the new Mac studio just doesn't have the expansion of the pro

desert creek
astral haven
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And thunderbolt on m# chips is very unpleasant with older devices

desert creek
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Migration to thunderbolts has been very slow even when they merged the usb4 and removed the license fee

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That’s strange

astral haven
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Nah
Anything pcie is thunderbolt with an adapter

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The problem is m# support for that is pain

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GPUs are outright banned

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But many other older devices don't work either

desert creek
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It’s because M# isn’t X86

astral haven
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Nope

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It's because apple made their own pcie bus and it doesn't work properly

desert creek
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Right

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Just like the rumoured apple USB c

astral haven
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Except apple doesn't need to do anything to make their phones USB c

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Only decide to and just do it

desert creek
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The rumours is saying apple will put a verification chip in the cable

astral haven
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USB c already requires that and allows for vendor customization of it

desert creek
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Let’s see what surprise we will get in October

astral haven
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Huawei has a custom implementation for their 6+ amp cables for example
Same for oppo ultrafast charging

final flame
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I'd say it's more likely for apple to just not use a wired cable

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They're probably just going to swap over to only magsafe

astral haven
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Gonna mess up my processes here significantly

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No idea how apple expects us to enroll devices for our company if there's no wire...

fickle ore
final flame
astral haven
desert creek
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Wires are good 👍

fickle ore
astral haven
fickle ore
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I was wondering if NV had improved theirs

astral haven
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It's just that amd enables it by default

fickle ore
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mmh

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oke

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and amd still has less overhead?

astral haven
# fickle ore I was wondering if NV had improved theirs

So imagine you have a car with a 10000 horsepower engine
And 1 with 900 horsepower
If both are the same size weight efficiency, and both are limited to 500 horsepower or else they explode in 2 seconds, it doesn't matter which one you get ...

astral haven
fickle ore
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Alright gonna check either AMD or intel

astral haven
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Like If you just don't want Nvidia, just say that instead of beating around the bush

fickle ore
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No, I just don't want NV's overhead. I lean on the CPU side more

astral haven
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🤷 a faster card will use the cpu more...

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But the 770 is cheaper and has more vram

fickle ore
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I'm usually capped anyway in games like OW/whatnot

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Any less CPU overhead is a win

astral haven
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That's not how that works

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Get the faster one
If it performs better, it performs better...

fickle ore
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I wish it were that simple but 8khz mice are needy

astral haven
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That's 1 thread

fickle ore
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24H will help tho

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may need to go insider 😄

astral haven
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🤷 6650 is more apt comparison

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Yup

fickle ore
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That includes csgo bench? INVALIDATED! 😛

astral haven
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770 is more for the insane random apps it performs well in
It's faster than a 3090 in topaz for example

fickle ore
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Ya for sure

astral haven
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750 is the one for gamers, and it really depends which games you play if the 6650 or 750 is faster, and

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You do not need 16gb of vram in that slow of a GPU...

fickle ore
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Hope 7700 xt/7800 will change the mid range price/perf

astral haven
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At least for gamerz

crimson wigeon
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But ultra is the only way to play!!!

astral haven
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Speak for yourself

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I've got a nice enough screen that it's rather easy to tell

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Also CPUs aren't keeping up with GPUs, if you lower settings even slightly in most games it becomes CPU bottlenecked

fickle ore
astral haven
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It's also useless for testing GPUs

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X3d is the least caring of memory speeds of the Ryzens lel

fickle ore
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god I wanna upgrade from 5800x to 5800x3d

astral haven
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Also if you are testing you want perfect stability, and amd doesn't validate 3600

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Dang no 32gb 6400 rdimms...

cursive summit
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Technically tech

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Tbf looks like just a waste of taxpayer's money

empty wren
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They have a museum of planes in OhIo toomm

cursive summit
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I don't really get the need for a "stealth" air vessel

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That ship has long sailed

astral haven
cursive summit
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Radars are more than enough capable to detect however tf you look

empty wren
cursive summit
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Tl;dw

astral haven
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Tldw the first thing attacked was radar and comms

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The very first ordinance to explode was on radar

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Oh my god, I didn't know that they had b52s launch from the us, do their mission and go straight back without landing
That's insane

cursive summit
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In desert storm

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Against a country that would be considered third world by most

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Russia's radars are far more capable than that and they are positioned far beyond the lines where an Apache would reach

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Stealth is still useless, active protection is how you achieve imperviousness

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For thousands of kilometers? dogekek

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Not gon happen, you have long and short range radars

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You can deal with short ones all you want, long ranges will still be in safe zones

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Maybe if they decommission Ariete's their equipment problems will fix themselves

astral haven
cursive summit
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If your army is incompetent, that's your personnel's fault, not the equipments

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Equipment is sophisticated enough to give you total coverage of half of earth with the radars that we have

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If you can't use it properly, not the equipment's fault

astral haven
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Yes but to these planes have the radar cross sections of small birds

cursive summit
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That was a thing back in the 70s and 80s, should not be a problem anymore

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Sometimes Pentagon genuinely does not know what they need

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So many billions wasted with all of their programmes

astral haven
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Define wasted tho

cursive summit
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I mean fair enough for doing R&D and seeing what works and doesn't, but man they are not being efficient

astral haven
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Research money is mostly salary

cursive summit
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Stop shittalking my Bradleys

astral haven
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Even if literally 100% of the money provides zero benefit technologically
A quite significant proportion of it is still given to people to spend on housing and food

cursive summit
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There is nothing wrong with the good old bradley

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Far better than the thing it was meant to counter

mild dome
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Irc the main issue US military spending faces is corrupt deals overspending for the simplest of things, e.g. medicine, spare parts, and basic household electronics

crisp granite
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oh my god

crisp granite
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stick a gun on it and now it is an infantry fighting vehicle

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with next to no protection for the passengers...

mild dome
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I mean the US is likely overspending on planes, but not because of their stealth capabilities but because the company gives kickbacks to the politicians who sign the deal

cursive summit
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And shit dogekek

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Bradley is amphibious anyways, with a fording kit

crisp granite
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rule of thumb
anything genuinely useful the US ever made never got past testing

crisp granite
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still want my jeep mounted tactical nuke tbh

mild dome
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I know the US once took the Australian Bushmaster and supersized it. How did that turn out?

cursive summit
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25mm and 30mm are cute

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Would rather just use the new 40mm with case telescoped rounds

crisp granite
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uh....tbh
the US and Russia have the resources to

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doesn't mean they use em

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or use them well

cursive summit
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U.S just don't have the need to field the shit that they research

crisp granite
cursive summit
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Like China is now touting the ramjet powered super mach5 or whatever missiles and how they are so ahead of U.S

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U.S has done research on that when, back in the 70s?

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Just cause they have it researched, they don't need to field them

crisp granite
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congrats

cursive summit
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Also AK-12 is a fine rifle

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The first model was a bit terrible

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But the second one is actually pretty nice

crisp granite
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doesn't do anything dramatically better than a 74

cursive summit
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That wouldn't make sense considering polymers are a lot cheaper than metal and wood typical russian gun construction

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AK-12 seems like an economical solution

crisp granite
cursive summit
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But you honestly are not wrong

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I don't see the need for a new rifle

crisp granite
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the whole optics mounting is cool...but they don't actually mount optics to the AK-12s....sooooooo

cursive summit
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U.S though is actually trying to accomplish something with the new rifles, introducing the 6.8mm cartridge

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That's a mad good cartridge

crisp granite
cursive summit
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Lol, not anytime soon

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Poor logistics man, adopting so many calibers

crisp granite
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...uh
Sig sells

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the rifles

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and cartridges

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to civilians

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in the USA

cursive summit
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Not the mil spec one

crisp granite
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of course not

cursive summit
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Civilian version is boring

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Full auto mil-spec is the shit

crisp granite
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...the only real difference from USA civie to military is the selector switch

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and I am one of those losers who hates full auto outside of a sub calibre anyway

cursive summit
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Anyways it's not a Sig mcx spear if not for that terminator optic sight

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Now that is half of the rifle

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If full auto was legal in this country, I would try my hardest to import a glock 18

crisp granite
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thank fuck for Lithuania being reasonable

cursive summit
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We have really good laws

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And virtually no gun incidents

crisp granite
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...jeez how do the yuropoors get more reasonable legislations than here

cursive summit
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At least no gun incidents with fatalities, typically

crisp granite
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only accidents?
weapon malfunctions

cursive summit
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I think according to recent stats, 1 in 100 have a firearm in our country

crisp granite
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that's a rather small number

cursive summit
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Which is actually a lot considering we have like maybe 2-3 headlines a year of gun accidents

crisp granite
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nah, it's litwa
people stab themselves

cursive summit
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Nah we just get drunk and cause traffic accidents

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Probably lead the worldwide stats in that category

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Can't stab or shoot someone if you die behind the wheel in your shitty ass BMW

crisp granite
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...

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have you seen the average american?

cursive summit
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Only eastern europe

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Ex-warsaw pact

crisp granite
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ugh

cursive summit
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Wey wey

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I do that

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So don't you shittalk americans like that

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They can do better, at least 4

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Just buy multiple bottles?

true quest
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rookie numbers compared to mexico

crisp granite
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tbh the tap water in the USA is really questionable in a lot of places

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so...yikes

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but not too surprising

true quest
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that is a joke right

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tell me you've never visited without saying it out loud

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the us falls behind soda consumption when compared to mexico

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it is the defacto drink of choice, even in large cities

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you think water is bad in the us

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mexico makes sure it stays bad to keep the population addicted to coke

crisp granite
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maybe not the latter, but yes

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clean water

true quest
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maybe some day

crisp granite
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don't plan on it tbh

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if I'm going any direction, it's north-east

true quest
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2L returnable bottle is the default

shadow minnow
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Does anyone here read books? I am just reading one that’s 3500 page long, the stm32h747 reference manual dogekek

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But hey the adc now works

true quest
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if you're talking small to midsize towns that may as well be fronts for the cartel

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sure you might not come across anything other than the iconic glass bottle

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be it beer or soda

final flame
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I mostly read fiction webnovels

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Fiction makes me forget reality at least temporarily

true quest
crisp granite
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hm
might do an all inclusive in mexico just so I can say I went

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but limiting my exposure

final flame
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Just don't get wanted by the cartel

true quest
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if youre a tourist in the tourist areas sure

crisp granite
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think I could make a quick buck with a truckload of illegals crossing the US-mexico?

final flame
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I have a couple Mexican friends, they're chill

crisp granite
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tbh...I wouldn't be too bothered

final flame
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Or Miku evidently

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From a sample size of 2

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🙃

true quest
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dragon ball z is all you need

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can't say i ever came across someone that liked evangelion down there, but naruto was close second to dbz

true quest
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true

rancid hollow
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how well does the analog feature work with macro programs?

gusty kiln
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Multi-monitor power usage fixed on AMD 7000 GPUs yet?

pale sigil
ashen spindle
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no 7000 series had an issue where its high power usage because it wouldnt clock down on multi monitor setupts

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not an issue on nvidia or other amd cards

gusty kiln
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Yeah something with the memory clocks

ashen spindle
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idk if its fixed, they had some patches that improved it

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idk if its fully fixed now

gusty kiln
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Cuz in tempted to grab a 7900xt for 800

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Reference model though

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And I only care about raster

tribal dirge
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*pixels

gusty kiln
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I mean there's not many options

ashen spindle
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nobody said its reasonable 😛

gusty kiln
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Unless I wait another gen

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So I can grab previous amd gen for cheaper

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Amd always goes cheaper than nvidia

tribal dirge
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Eh, I’ve spent 8k on a gpu

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Nvidia RTX 6000 ADA

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I also do real work

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ML data searching

ashen spindle
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I mena, if they can make it look good enough that it would justify it, sure

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or can show it reduces dev time by enough that they can add more stuff instead

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main reason I'm all for rtx is that it eventually should make light settings a lot easier to do so it takes 10x less time

gusty kiln
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if you had to pick, which?

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wait open box for 680?

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asrock is 50Mhz higher

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but I don't know much about them as an AIB

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but that open box deal is looking real nice

ashen spindle
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its neither a red devil nor a phantom oc so probably more or less the same card

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open box idk what that even is

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returned cards?

gusty kiln
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yeah

ashen spindle
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nah fuck that, cba trouble shooting more than necessary on new hardware

gusty kiln
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the 680 one says LED doesn't light up

ashen spindle
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I mean, then I would try it and see if that really is the only issue lol

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I cant even see my case so I gladly take a 120 voucher for broken rgb lol

gusty kiln
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kek yeah

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And only the XTX had the cooler issue IRC

wheat plume
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400 grand......

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Holy shit

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🤤

astral haven
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Nice and leisurely lel

ashen spindle
empty wren
empty wren
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😵‍💫, i at first thought the car was a prop, but seeing the parts for sale seems like now there will be broken cars and functioning ones will be rare

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true

pale sigil
empty wren
pale sigil
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cursed

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AI is great

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i used it to make me a script and a cronjob

empty wren
sharp badger
wheat plume
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I'm not surprised by that percentage!!!

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A lot of people prefer not to be at a desk for gaming

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Which is why console is so popular
You are on a comfy couch

frozen ingot
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controller is so much worse to play with though pepecry

reef patrol
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Ughh.... Chrome just pushed another, terrible design change.

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Forced hover cards with preview images.

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Worst thing is - I can't even escape it by changing browsers, because apparently no one else doing Chromium seems to care when Google forces stuff like this.

halcyon moss
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cough firefox

reef patrol
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Firefox isn't an option. Doesn't support WebUSB, doesn't have anywhere near the same support for addons and it doesn't integrate well with... anything Google 😛

halcyon moss
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/shrug google stuff works fine for me

reef patrol
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Oof... managed to get it back temporarily... but it's a time bomb that Google disables eventually. 💀

mossy plinth
reef patrol
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That's what I'm saying - they're removing the flags.

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Well HAVE. But there's a flag that brings back some flags on a per-build basis...but those are also temporary. So I'll be back to having this issue soon.

mossy plinth
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Wait, they are removing flags? pepesweat

reef patrol
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Yes?

mossy plinth
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then again its chrome. They'll say they'll do something but then keep delaying it.

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There will probably always be a way to disable it hopefully

reef patrol
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The issue is that Google controls the flags for all chromium browsers, unless THEY specifically disagree.

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I can't load up Brave and toggle things.

halcyon moss
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and this is the problem with blink everything

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Firefox!

reef patrol
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This used to have multiple flags - One to completely disable the tooltips (hover cards), but now only the image preview one remains, and only temporarily if I force it back through another flag.

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I'd kill for a version of Chrome that'd let me stay on an old version or just force old flags to come back in - But that's not happening. So just hoping Brave and other browsers eventually hack this toggle back in, because it's really instrusive.

pale sigil
fair gull
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easy fix dont use wootility web, dont use any extensions and google stuff works very well on firefox

wheat plume
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FINALLY, they are actually doing to do shit about Discord scams

tame hedge
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I don't think this is what proves it

ashen spindle
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that just makes rules clear that doesnt say anything about them doing shit about it

crimson wigeon
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Should just not allow any crypto nonsense

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Cryptobros gonna be in shambles

mossy plinth
pale sigil
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Anyone have any idea why WoL won't work

cedar vine
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Anyone got any idea which would kinda be the best wifi router for like a 400mt2 home? About 500mb- 1gb/s speeds

pale sigil
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I've wiped my bios, checked my Mac address, checked settings in Windows.

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Still won't work

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Used to work fine

reef patrol
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Check something like wireshark to see if the PC is actually receiving the magic packet?

pale sigil
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For a long time

shadow minnow
mossy plinth
pale sigil
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It's rather annoying

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I got so reliant on it when I'm downstairs or out.

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As I use Alexa with it

ashen spindle
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think the issue is you are using alexa

pale sigil
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Well no

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I tried other options too

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Haha

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Different ways of WoL

reef patrol
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They all do the same thing though.

pale sigil
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That too

reef patrol
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Starting with Windows Vista, the operating system logs all wake sources in the "System" event log. The Event Viewer and the powercfg.exe /lastwake command can retrieve them.[13]

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Start pinging my dude.

gusty kiln
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finally listed my 3700X for sale

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maybe my old GTX 970 next

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slowly building funds for a new GPU

true quest
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ddg getting in on it

crimson wigeon
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When chatbot

ashen spindle
#

Duckbot is already active, Codename mansen

true quest
empty wren
#

Guess pretty soon nobody will be able to have wifi

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How much are these

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😵‍💫

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Yeah GPUs still be would be better pick for mining

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Cept you cannot repurpose a router for much else besides being a router

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A gpu can be used for playing games, rendering, home entertainment decoding

vagrant pagoda
#

I mean it can

empty wren
#

Okay yes fair enough

old marlin
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TP-Link representatives responded to our queries, stating that this is not a TP-Link product. As such, it appears that the "TP-Link ASIC" router is a scam. We're investigating further.

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also 1200W of power

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over a tiny barrel jack

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suuuuuure

crimson wigeon
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What could possibly go wrong

empty wren
#

Is it also trying to be a space heater

astral haven
#

thats what mining is

old marlin
#

that entire product is a scam btw

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like 99% sure

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doesn't seem to be related to tp link though

wheat plume
#

Is there a way to stop the virtual desktop icon in the taskbar from showing that popup when you hover the cursor over it?
Windows 11

crimson wigeon
#

Don't hover over it

wheat plume
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I use that icon often

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Because they removed the fucking slide animation when swapping desktops with keyboard shortcuts

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And now I can't tell I've opened an app on the wrong desktop if they are all empty cause you can't see it switch desktop anymore cause of the lack of animation

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Windows literally has an animation for dropping a system tray icon into the overflow menu

Yet they removed the virtual desktop slide animation .-.

astral haven
#

they would have an excuse if this was a global postprocessing step but nooo you need specific game support

cursive summit
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So it's a PC that's also a router

astral haven
#

no its just a scam

cursive summit
#

Is it really though

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Looks like a real product with some interesting engineering behind it

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It's obviously not by TP-Link, but I don't see why it would not work

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The idea's.. alright?

gusty kiln
#

$8.99

astral haven
gusty kiln
astral haven
#

sanitize your link please

reef patrol
#

Why Sanitize when you can SATANIZE.

old marlin
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please make links extra long

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thanks ebay

cursive summit
#

This TP-Link ASIC is some funny ass shit

old marlin
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it is a scam

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like 99% sure

cursive summit
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Founded in 2020

old marlin
#

as in

gusty kiln
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P12 Max being cheaper than regular P12 lol

cursive summit
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With headquarters in... Crawford, TN

old marlin
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not actually tp link

cursive summit
wheat plume
old marlin
cursive summit
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I like this company

old marlin
gusty kiln
wheat plume
astral haven
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regular p12 are like 20 for a 5 pack or whatever

wheat plume
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I want to disable the hover preview

old marlin
astral haven
gusty kiln
#

at least from amazon it's 14.99 for whatever reason

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for a single PWM PST

astral haven
#

pst co maybe?

gusty kiln
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white version is 11.55

old marlin
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damn

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you are getting ripped off

gusty kiln
#

obviously 5 pack makes more sense

wheat plume
#

Microsoft admitting that some of their software is horribly insecure and out-dated?!!??

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what?! is this real??

cursive summit
#

If something is a security liability, you shut it down

wheat plume
#

I have never ONCE seen Microsoft say anything bad about their own software, no matter how old it was until now

cursive summit
#

Microsoft isn't that slacking on security front though

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For how complicated their OS'es are, they do a lot well

old marlin
#

don't try to tell that lana

wheat plume
cursive summit
#

Linux shits are pretty annoying with their borderline domb Windows hate

wheat plume
#

I was hating on Microsoft, not Windows

cursive summit
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Get a proper OS then shittalk windows

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Your shit don't work dogekek

wheat plume
#

it works

cursive summit
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Barely

wheat plume
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I mentioned how microsoft never talk bad about their software

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I never mentioned Windows bad

empty wren
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Windows good

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Take windows pill

wheat plume
#

it was Vex that brought up the whole windows bad thingy

cursive summit
#

Windows don't shy away from notifying people about security issues though..?

wheat plume
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I never said anythng about security either

empty wren
#

Vexx the politician

old marlin
cursive summit
#

So, in that case Linus Torvalds doesn't talk shit about Linux or the Linux Foundation either so

old marlin
#

While disabling or removing SMBv1 might cause some compatibility issues with old computers or software, SMBv1 has significant security vulnerabilities, and we strongly encourage you not to use it.

wheat plume
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I literally just said I was surprised that Microsoft said bad things about a piece of software they made

@cursive summit

cursive summit
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Why doesn't Linus hate his own programming brainchild

old marlin
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woweee

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so hard to find

empty wren
cursive summit
#

Still doesn't shittalk it

wheat plume
#

he shit-talked it even when he made it

empty wren
#

He does hate Nvidia thouvh

frozen ingot
cursive summit
frozen ingot
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"it all turned to shit once the kids started making their own changes"

wheat plume
empty wren
#

Like Android feels less fragmented

frozen ingot
#

nvidia is cancer but its working cancer

wheat plume
#

Yall like: USE WINDOWS
Me: Sends WIndows screenshot
Yall like: EW INSIDERS, GROSS

wheat plume
#

same here .-.

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I hate 11

cursive summit
#

I mean if you want to beta test features that are potentially unstable, sure

wheat plume
#

it looks way better, but thats about it

cursive summit
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Fair enough though

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Win11 looks absolute dogcrap

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I will not transition to Win11 unless it's superlight/debloated

wheat plume
#

this looks better and the tabs are really great compared to 10

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I dislike the lack of being able to drag and drop tabs to make new windows though

cursive summit
#

Why, just why, do you need tabs

astral haven
#

window management is massively improved

cursive summit
#

You do not need tabs

wheat plume
#

I often need many folders open at once

astral haven
#

some of us do work with files

cursive summit
#

I work with files and it's just fine the way it is??

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It's worse with tabs

wheat plume
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Id prefer to use split-pane instead of tabs but File Explorer doesnt have that

astral haven
#

if you dont like tabs, it literally makes no difference

wheat plume
#

^

cursive summit
#

Actually it does make a difference

wheat plume
#

?

cursive summit
#

Now I have more UI elements to ignore, that takes effort

wheat plume
#

?

cursive summit
#

Unless you can roll back to Win10 file explorer, I don't want to see the new one

wheat plume
#

ah yes, a + button....so un-usable

final flame
cursive summit
#

There are tabs on win10?

wheat plume
#

no

final flame
#

There is a way jank as it may be

cursive summit
#

Idk what this version is, but I am really not in the mood of ever upgrading the Windows versions anymore

wheat plume
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who gonna bet they remove the ability to change cursor icon eventually?

final flame
cursive summit
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Cool, but no thanks

final flame
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It also has quite a few other tweaks like changing explorer shortcuts making the window transparent and many other features

cursive summit
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I didn't particularly like that feature tbf

final flame
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I'd assume it's just changing a registry value

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Personally I prefer the default explorer with qttab bar

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The "Files" application that emulates the windows 11 explorer is just garbage and slow

wheat plume
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do sys-admins hate Windows?

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I see a lot of them hating it

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but also a lot that love it

marsh glade
#

Computers are like air conditioners

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... they stop working once you open windows

wheat plume
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:')

cursive summit
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Ha haa

astral haven
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intune hype

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fortunately microsoft lets you control precisely how you handle updates...

wheat plume
astral haven
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i very much appreciate how they added screenshots to the notifications so you can pick them back up

wheat plume
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huh?

astral haven
wheat plume
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ooh, that was in 10 also

astral haven
wheat plume
cursive summit
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I dunno if you lads forgot, or never knew but

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Screenshots were always saved up

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Win key + V

wheat plume
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Got to enable that manually the first time

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for clipboard to open

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and by default it tries to sync it to your MS account also 🤢

astral haven
cursive summit
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Ctrl V always works wonders

astral haven
#

paint is garbage

cursive summit
astral haven
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its objectively awful at editing images

cursive summit
#

Your opinion on why paint is awful is also awful

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Paint's a relic we need to preserve and cherish

astral haven
#

its great for drawing but its terrible for image editing

final flame
gusty kiln
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I thought GIMP was the go-to free image/drawing software

final flame
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Oh God no

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Gimp

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Gimp is just terrible ui, good luck learning it

astral haven
#

paint.net is fine but snip and sketch is far faster especially including the copy button

gusty kiln
#

I feel like I never hear about people using Sony Vegas anymore?

astral haven
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davinci resolve is just so powerful and so cheap

gusty kiln
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Like I bet sony studios prob use a version of Vegas

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but outside of them idk

final flame
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Affinity is good, only good alternative

gusty kiln
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Adobe, Final Cut, and Davinci all carved out a good chunk of the market share

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been like 3 weeks and Qobuz still haven't really created a good discovery mix for me

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still gunna rely on Youtube music for recs I guess

ashen spindle
#

so internet was gone for a while so I had to use my phone hotspot to have internet during the raid

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turns out I had to install itunes before I could use my phone via usb tether lol

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so had to download that form my laptop via wifi to install that so I could tether to my pc

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and either my phone was recording it wrongly or I used a whole 3mb for discord voice call+ raid for like 2 hours lol

final flame
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@gusty kiln ok talked to the headphone dealer, and he no longer sells headphones
apparently selling them was not profitable at all so he decided to stop carrying them

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I'm going to try bjorns audio but I don't think they'll have some of the nice nice stuff

gusty kiln
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headphone buyers are less willing to spend grands compared to speakers buyers

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and margins on most headphones under a grand is probably not that much

final flame
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well I also live in a city that's mostly old people and boomers

gusty kiln
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Taiwan/Singapore seems like the two best places for headphones/IEM auditions

final flame
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ummmm

gusty kiln
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RIP

final flame
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idk about that one chief

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everything I've heard about the 660s is bad lmao

gusty kiln
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guess the edition XS is probably the best blind buy

final flame
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yea

gusty kiln
astral haven
gusty kiln
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yeah, it's the same 6__ formula but not really better

astral haven
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if they have the 660s they should have the 560s tho

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and i really like the 560s

gusty kiln
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there's a new 560s that are slightly downgraded

astral haven
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-_-

final flame
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well I already have a 6xx so I don't really want to stay in midfi hell

gusty kiln
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but no one have done a deep dive on it yet though

gusty kiln
astral haven
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i also have 6xx

gusty kiln
#

there's also the 109 Pros

final flame
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I wanted to listen to some high end planars first to see really how much of a difference it'd make and whether that difference was worth it

astral haven
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i do really enjoy the debacked he400se

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and they are $100

final flame
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a video can tell you how good something sounds kinda, but you'll never be able to tell until you actually listen to it and have something to compare to

gusty kiln
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avoid audeze unless you like to EQ

final flame
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it it just their dark signature?

astral haven
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no they are extremely janky

gusty kiln
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Yeah

astral haven
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completely messed up to the point where their dacs come with built in eq

gusty kiln
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Even audeze have to create reveal+ to fix the tonal balance

final flame
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so in the end edition xs or the moondrop venus are both the most safe options

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edition xs being even more safe

gusty kiln
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yeah

astral haven
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I'm close to going xs myself but I just don't like headphones

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I want to get some high end iems next bc I can actually use them...

final flame
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I only really use iems when I'm at school and I don't really appreciate them enough for it to be worth a upgrade there imo

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rn I'm using a starfield and a fiio m6 as a bluetooth reciever

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with ldac

astral haven
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Ya and I use them nearly exclusively now bc I only have time to listen to music when falling asleep and wearing open backs in bed is dumb

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And when I'm taking phone calls it really doesn't matter lel

final flame
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I considered upgrading to a dusk but yea I thought over it, I'll probably buy them if I have some spare cash when I'm in college

astral haven
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Considering I value comfort over sound quality I'm having trouble considering the b2

gusty kiln
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I recently bought a Fiio K7 and their FF5 earbuds

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really liking them

astral haven
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I'm a utws3 kinda guy lel

final flame
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I rotate between my er2 and starfield

gusty kiln
#

I kinda wana try a nice bio-cellulose dynamic headphone

astral haven
#

It's just too uncomfortable for me to use the etys

final flame
#

the foam tips on the etys imo make it a lot easier

astral haven
#

Currently truthear zero wired at home, CCA cra+ az09 and utws3 salnotes zero on the go

astral haven
final flame
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how do you like the zero?

astral haven
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I like both, avoid the truthear tho bc its not compatible with tips, sounds great tho if one of the stock tips fits

final flame
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gotta love musicbee

gusty kiln
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yeah I use to use musicbee a lot

final flame
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spent a while customizing it and now it looks great

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also working on making a custom skin

gusty kiln
#

that's a lot of weeb music

final flame
#

yes

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and that's also all the same artist

gusty kiln
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I'm fully a music streamer now

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lol jeez

final flame
#

weeb music sadly has to be local

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due to the nature of sony

gusty kiln
#

Yeah other then YouTube and spotify, you can't get some music at cd quality

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From streaming

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What's your current desktop source?

final flame
#

wallpaper?

gusty kiln
#

Amp dac

final flame
#

oh schitt

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sorry I had to

gusty kiln
#

Kek

final flame
#

magni and modi 3 stack

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I don't use the heresy

gusty kiln
#

Ok so you have plenty of head room

final flame
gusty kiln
#

Yeah you definitely want planar or estat for that kind of music

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A lot going on in those tracks

final flame
#

Hatsuki yura's music is even more complex

final flame
gusty kiln
final flame
#

here's a example

gusty kiln
#

Hd6xx must be struggling with the decay

final flame
#

yup

gusty kiln
#

XS are a bit brighter, fatigue might be a worry coming from the 6xx

final flame
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I don't think it'll be too much of a issue

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if it is eq is always a option

gusty kiln
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Most of my music are simpler so 6xx are perfect, but I want a "super" version

final flame
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most of the stuff I listen to has actual instruments or virtual instruments

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or is live recorded

astral haven
#

this sounds pretty good
wish it wasnt japanese tho lel

final flame
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I mostly just don't listen to the vocals as vocals I listen to them as if they're a instrument

astral haven
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sure but its alot more distracting than english for me

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hmm the truthears feel like they are doing something wrong, the bass feels disconnected from the rest of the song

ashen spindle
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that means you need to listen to more so it feels less distracting mm

final flame
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that song also has a interesting tuning, it probably has a high pass filter

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the song name is exorcist afterall

astral haven
#

actually its probably my mixer eq
oops

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nah i found a compilation on youtube

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nvm my eq was off

charred lodge
#

Should I buy white keycaps?

#

I want white keycaps

shadow minnow
#

Then yes

frozen ingot
#

if you want white ones you should buy the black, otherwise you'll have the white and not want them anymore

gusty kiln
#

Seems like reddit is testing another new UI, and again it's worst than the previous

#

Comment threads take up way too much space and don't collapse all the way

crimson wigeon
#

old reddit forever

#

Love seeing all the people complain and me not knowing anything about what they're complaining about because oldleddit

hallow topaz
#

Guys with express interface 3.0 i can install an series 30 graphic cards?

crimson wigeon
#

Sure

hallow topaz
#

My motherboard is an asus rog strix z490 f gaming

#

Which is the best graphic cards for this motherboard?

ashen spindle
#

every modern card works

crimson wigeon
#

PCIE is pretty compatible, you just won't get optimum performance

hallow topaz
#

with a 3070 ti I wanted to change my 2060

ashen spindle
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that will work just fine

hallow topaz
#

Ok What graphic card you Tip for me?

ashen spindle
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idk how much money you want to spend

hallow topaz
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700€

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Or 600

crimson wigeon
#

4090

ashen spindle
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3070 ti or 6800xt depending on what you can find for cheaper then I guess

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well if you find a 4090 for that money sure take that xd

hallow topaz
#

I have an i7 10700k

gusty kiln
#

3070ti is a step down in terms of raster vs the 6800xt

#

But you get the creature comfort of nvidia features

hallow topaz
ashen spindle
#

depends on which game

gusty kiln
#

3080/6800xt are about equal in raster

hallow topaz
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Fortnite,valorant,gta ,r6,csgo,hogwarts legacy and other

gusty kiln
#

But 3080 are horribly priced for new

#

All above 700 usd from what I've seen

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Might as well get a 4070ti

hallow topaz
#

Is at 700€?

gusty kiln
#

Idk gotta check your retailer

hallow topaz
carmine forge
#

Well - to run it in 4k at max graphics

hallow topaz
#

Is good?

carmine forge
#

Imho a bit overpriced for a 3060 ti

hallow topaz
#

Ye

carmine forge
#

But yeah that’s a step or two down from the 3070ti

hallow topaz
#

One site sure for buy?

carmine forge
#

Idk too much about the lower end graphics range since I was looking at the 3080+ range when I built my pc so maybe @gusty kiln could help me out here

ashen spindle
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wtf is that price I can get a 3070ti for 600 lol

sharp badger
carmine forge
#

Yeah was saying

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Like I would expect that pricing for October/November 2022

hallow topaz
carmine forge
#

But even then it’s on the high range by about €50

hallow topaz
ashen spindle
sharp badger
#

Might be able to buy something from Proshop

hallow topaz
#

Please

ashen spindle
#

idk which shops send to italy but i imagine there are similar price comparison sites you can use

hallow topaz
#

I think buy this

fickle ore
#

7800 xt wen

fickle ore
gusty kiln
#

Are all amd gpu this gen using multi chip design?

#

Or only the 7900 series?

hallow topaz
cursive summit
#

... ocean man

reef patrol
#

TAKE ME BY THE HAND

#

LEAD ME TO THE LAND

cursive summit
#

Wey wey, don't stop there

fickle ore
#

FEED ME WITH THE JANK

gusty kiln
#

7800xt is doa if it is anything over 600 usd

cursive summit
#

I don't see why?

#

6800XT launched at 649 and it was insane at that price bracket

fickle ore
ashen spindle
#

his budget doesnt work for current gen so there is no other option

fickle ore
#

dont feed them inflation

#

hold diamond handsssss

cursive summit
#

There's nothing wrong with 3070(Ti)

#

I'd rather advice to get a used 6800-6900 for that price

#

Quite a bit of them on the emarkets

gusty kiln
ashen spindle
gusty kiln
cursive summit
#

n30 utilizes void technology

gusty kiln
#

Hopfully avoid the idle and multi monitor issue

#

Power draw

hallow topaz
gusty kiln
#

7800xt matching a 6950xt for 100 less is meh

cursive summit
gusty kiln
#

700 e-hoes

cursive summit
#

That's a new name for euro?

gusty kiln
#

Damn rite

cursive summit
#

Fair nuff

fickle ore
cursive summit
gusty kiln
#

Ew biostar

cursive summit
#

A card's a card

fickle ore
#

haha Nvidia lolololol

cursive summit
#

I hope Nvidia goes bankrupt as some point

#

Just some personal bias

fickle ore
#

Yeah, intel ftw we need intel gpus

gusty kiln
#

Where's intel market cap at?

#

Oh yikes, it's actually lower than AMD

ashen spindle
#

amd got big from pensando+xilinx mergers

cursive summit
#

Nvidia got big from talking big about AI and are still inflated

gusty kiln
#

Yeah and intel also sold a lot of their divisions

#

Makes sense now

cursive summit
#

I linked a 6900XT for 650 from the ebayz

gusty kiln
#

I mean nvidia makes mad profits

cursive summit
#

Customer returns, so borderline new

#

With shipping

#

6900XT is a mad good card though

cursive summit
#

Yet in stock price is double

#

It should crash by 50%

gusty kiln
#

Yeah but this is stocks

#

Is like 90% perception

cursive summit
#

GameStop ftw

gusty kiln
#

6800xt for 570 at microcenter

ashen spindle
#

doesnt make much sense to compare nvidia and amd as companies

#

one makes gpus and the other makes cpus with some gpu side hustle

cursive summit
#

They are very much still in the same sphere and competitors

gusty kiln
#

I'm torn between getting that or just jumping to the 800 7900xt/4070ti

cursive summit
#

In more ways than just GPUs too

ashen spindle
#

they overlap in some areas, amd has basically nothing in the area where >50% of nvidias income is ffrom

cursive summit
#

What's that, AI accelerated datacenters?

ashen spindle
#

nobody uses rocm or instinct cards outside supercomputers that are specific deals

gusty kiln
#

Big boy consoles

#

Sony can't make enough still

ashen spindle
#

without console money RTG would make so little lol

gusty kiln
#

I just want amd to snipe Nintendo from nvidia

#

Console monopoly

cursive summit
#

Sadly, won't happen

ashen spindle
#

would be nice but wont happen

cursive summit
#

Would be cool but won't

ashen spindle
#

not because nvidia would not let it happen but because nintendo wouldn't bother

cursive summit
#

Jensen was in Japan recently apparently, visiting Nintendo

#

Solidifying their friendships

ashen spindle
#

in 2020 data center was less than half of what nvidia made with gaming, gaming revenue doubled since then and data center is now higher than gaming, amd aint competing there lol

gusty kiln
#

Wonder what's the margin on those tegra chips for nvidia

#

Over 120 million switch sold

cursive summit
#

I don't imagine those are very expensive

#

Like 50$ or something dogekek

gusty kiln
#

Couple of dollars x 120 million is still a chunck of money

gusty kiln
#

Maybe biiiiiiiiggggg boy APU might shake things up

ashen spindle
#

well the isue is it doesnt run cuda

#

so until meta finish making pytorch and all run just as well on non cuda hardware too much needs to be rewritten

astral haven
#

and it doesnt run ai workloads nearly as well as tensor

astral haven
ashen spindle
#

they might get lucky if stuff like tenstorrent takes over ai hardware so people use those more than nvidia cards and they can compete on more traditional use cases heh

astral haven
#

yea as if nvidia will just sit still and let that happen

ashen spindle
#

you never know, maybe jensen will fall asleep for 2 years

astral haven
#

he would get voted off at the very next shareholder meeting lel

gusty kiln
sharp badger
gusty kiln
#

Shame companies are leaving out strobing for oled now

#

Strobing on the older lg oled tv where nice

astral haven
#

strobing is really really damaging to the oled tho unless you massively decrease the effective brightness

gusty kiln
#

Fine for me cuz I usually play at lower brightness

astral haven
#

no im serious

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like below bottom tier crt levels

gusty kiln
sharp badger
gusty kiln
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Of course it's asrock

astral haven
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the problem is still the ddr5...

ashen spindle
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im just waiting for oled to reach higher hz so black frame insertion can be used without dropping to 60hz

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that should be good

gusty kiln
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Decent 6000 kits are starting at 150

astral haven
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thats still $150 more than you need to pay for the ddr4 you already have (which you can use with raptor lake)

sharp badger
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Yeah and there's the new ram 24, 48 & 96GB kits out too

astral haven
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which arent fully functional in all boards yet

gusty kiln
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Waiting for viewsonic to make their next blurbuster approved monitor

sharp badger
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DDR4 builds are still the way to save money unless there's a great bundle

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But had some bad DDR4 in my old PC so went with DDR5 instead but should've went the A Hynix 64GB OC way to save cash but eh, whatever, should've done a bit more research

gusty kiln
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Or live near a microcenter

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Price seems good, but dunno about the quality of mobo and ram

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Could be filler junk

sharp badger
wheat plume
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I wish Microcenters existed in ireland ;-;

sharp badger
wheat plume
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yeah..

pale sigil
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Weird, I thought I fixed WoL

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But it seems to be not working again

reef patrol
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smh you don't believe enough in the heart of the cards.

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You're not praying hard enough to Hydaelyn

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Shouldn't have picked warrior of darkness.

ashen spindle
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he's just on his pseudo elidibus trip I think

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when I see stuff like that I always have to think about people who argue about dem vs rep votes based on how big the red states are and not where people live heh

reef patrol
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It's almost as if people live near water.

ashen spindle
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oh god youtube made their layout worse again