🔌│tech

[reef patrol]

Which doesn't work anyway

[empty wren]

Here is a solution

Make a YouTube with all the right features

And call it TubeYou

[vagrant pagoda]

Lol

You know only google can afford to make it free

That's the issue

[empty wren]

[vagrant pagoda]

They own all the fiber

[empty wren]

Time to turn Vimeo into new youtube

[vagrant pagoda]

That's why

[empty wren]

Most of it anyways

Though would be nice to have from them, pricing is not too bad and from what I heard they do not raise prices

Only downside is Google decides where Google fiber is

[pale sigil]

It does

Just isn't 100%

But it's enough

[empty wren]

Crowdsource

😏

[reef patrol]

It uses a separate database separate from YT only usable by its users. I don't call that working.

[pale sigil]

I know but it's still better than nothing and does it's job

[reef patrol]

Agree to disagree

[frozen ingot]

having the dislike bar back brings me inner peace

[vagrant pagoda]

This issue is the data is useless

Because everyone can access likes

But only the people who get the addon can dislike

[frozen ingot]

I can still access the dislike button on any device I haven't got the plugin on

only I can't see how many dislikes the video has without it

[pale sigil]

https://youtube.com/shorts/klmBTGQUkbM?feature=share

Lol to everything in this video

But this happens to me too which the boot on an Nvme

It's always annoyed me

[wheat plume]

LOL

[reef patrol]

[wheat plume]

making a fake Chrome warning screen

[marsh glade]

I mean they're ironically up front about their intentions

[wheat plume]

yeah xd

fake popover

[misty saffron]

what the fuck does the text mean

looks like a deranged man’s ramblings

[wheat plume]

its trying to get you to install a malicious Ad Blocker extension

[misty saffron]

ok but why would i need to notify google about that site to change google account password

[wheat plume]

cause they wanna make it sound official and from Google and think this was a good idea to add

idk

[empty wren]

More like ad causer

Ad avenger sounds like it spams you with more adda

If anything

[empty wren]

New cable

It used to be free with ada

Then it was paid

Sad times

[shadow minnow]

https://github.com/Bexin3/Speeduino/tree/0.0.6/examples/Osciloscope
Made a project that allows you to view the incoming wave on samd21 arduino at 350 ksps as well as to meassure frequency between 20hz - 100khz, and have settable gain.

[vagrant pagoda]

https://youtu.be/vCogLM-R8FU

[pale sigil]

Even brave is pissed at me

for not getting an ipad

I seem to have visit Apple uk more than Amazon lately

[shut ridge]

Hey Boss @modest adder. I need talk to you in DM, I have an offer. Please DM me or send me a friend request.

[reef patrol]

Please don't tag staff out of the blue. Send us an email at [e-mail] and we'll get back to you asap.

[crisp granite]

yeah
fuckin idiot

get a good tablet

otherwise known as an iPad

no such thing as a good android tablet

plenty of ok and decent ones though

just not GOOD ones

[empty wren]

Lol

Glorified chromebook

Running safari

I mean if you had pencil

Probably dine

Like think about this

Portable infinite paper

I see

Apolgies

Surface would be best

[empty wren]

@reef tundra microswiss made this two years ago

[empty wren]

Oh and I found this super tasty thing https://roymech.org/Useful_Tables/Drive/Gear_Efficiency.html

[cursive summit]

https://hothardware.com/news/amd-promises-rdna-4-near-future

[wheat plume]

Windows 11 Login Screen: **The power icon popover is themed as Windows 11, the network icon popover is themed after Windows 10 and the Accessibility icon popover is themed after Windows 8.1 **

3 UI designs used in icons that are next to each other ON THE LOGIN SCREEN

[fair gull]

accessibility is win11 design

but sure

this is what it looks like in win11

and on the logon screen its the same just without the back and more options option

[wheat plume]

oh, they fixed it

neat

on earlier versions of 11 it was still Windows 8 popover

[tribal dirge]

tbh, MacOS does accessibility much better than windows

its why they're good for the elderly/disabled people

[misty saffron]

interesting how xbox cares about accessibility but windows division doens't

[wheat plume]

Yeh..... It is strange

[ashen spindle]

two almost unrelated sub companies/divisons having different focus isn't a surprise

[latent mural]

Hey guys i have a question
Is it okay to lay a pc flat that has an aio without damaging it?

[hollow carbon]

Open loop or closed Loop ?
CLosed loop is like image witch would be fine

[latent mural]

Oh okay ty i have a closed loop
Thanks for the help

This is a closed loop right ?

[hollow carbon]

Yes that is closed loop it wont leak when turned on side

open loop tends to be user filled witch depending on design don't do well with being on side and could leak (image example)

[latent mural]

Oh okay i though i could mess up the loop when i turn it
Thank you

[wheat plume]

How long would a decent AIO last before it starts to leak?

[ashen spindle]

till you want to replace it anyway because new board doesnt fit anymore

[hollow carbon]

Closed loop from dependable manufacture it shouldn't unless you are bending tubes or putting undo stress on it or something sharp slices it they tend to be very reliable
the Pump inside it would normally burn out instead when they die

[wheat plume]

What if you don't upgrade your components for like 6 years?

[wheat plume]

Oo....
I see

[hollow carbon]

for long term use i would just make sure you look into thermals every so often to see if Pump is still working and not overheating

some of the newer ones have warning signs if it stops working

had a computer come in that was turning off (due to overheating)
said it was going like this for a two months
till no longer worked
turns out the Pump Died and the CPU was cooked had to chisel the Cpu Off the Block as cheap paste fused with it

[wheat plume]

O.o oh wtf

[hollow carbon]

cheap thermal paste that comes with it can be like Cement when it dries out like that
and not joking about the Hammer & chisel part

[wheat plume]

Damnnm

[tribal dirge]

Sure, just double check that no exhaust or intake parts of the pc are obstructed.

Also if you’re watercooling be sure that your pumps will still work when tipped on its side.

[tribal dirge]

I use a Liquid Metal alloy.

[hollow carbon]

yea i should of checked if they intend to use while tipped and not assumed it was for maintenance /cleaning

[tribal dirge]

I have a maingear pc that can still work tipped on it’s side.

[hollow carbon]

most closed loop system i have worked with doesn't really matter position of radiator / tipped
as long as air flow is not obstructed

[tribal dirge]

Ye

Although fluid dynamics might change

Which may cause the pumps to work harder/less.

But yeah the biggie is airflow

[hollow carbon]

ehhh kinda if it has a water reservoir or some where it can pool water

mostly the flow of a Closed loop pushes the water back up same with going down with suction force

keep in mind never had to work on Open Loop water cooling or custom pretty much the basic closed loop

[tribal dirge]

Doesn’t change the fact that it has to work against gravity.

[latent mural]

I have another question
What should i do when my pc is on a bootloop?

I think i broke something

[hollow carbon]

check the connection of ssd / hdd
may of come loose
if need a walk thru can call discord

[tribal dirge]

Force shutdown and start it again.

All I do is delid and Liquid Metal. Lol

Not die thinning and whatnot

[latent mural]

Oh i meant my pc isnt even rightfully starting it tries to but it keeps shutting down

[tribal dirge]

Check your connections

Or actually, try booting into the bios.

[hollow carbon]

yea double check connection
Ram- ssd / hdd

other would be to go into Bios by pressing Either
F2 or Del Keep over and over till bios shows up
on computer boot

then can check if there is somthing going on

[latent mural]

I would get into bios when my pc would even start
I get a quick light and then it shuts down and does the same

[hollow carbon]

just going to cover the basic just in case

1. But have you flipped the computer back up to default position as it was before

2. can i know why it was opened or flipped like cleaning or adding hdd etc ?

[latent mural]

I cleaned it yes

I tried another outlet still no response

[hollow carbon]

3. thing to check
   -can press the GPU back in slightly
   -Ram can be pushed slightly
   -connection on boot drive or ssd/hdd

others to check

-make sure power cable at the back is firmly in
-make sure the Monitor is plugged into the right socket as before

[latent mural]

Everything is firmly in
I checked everything
Imma send a video so you guys know what I mean

Hes trying to boot but goes down befor he does

[hollow carbon]

yea
for a second there watching the clip i thought that was a spark then re watched just the Problem LED

[latent mural]

Should i try resetting my bios via the battery? I dont know if this does anything

[tribal dirge]

Well not really, just the gaps in general from all the fittings and whatnot.

[hollow carbon]

one sec do you know the model or manufacture of the Motherboard
i noticed 2 leds flashing sometimes in manual that can be a code for why it is not Booting

[reef patrol]

No, the tubing as well.

[tribal dirge]

I flush and replace the coolant in my pc every 2 years

[latent mural]

Sadly not

[tribal dirge]

But it’s minuscule compared to what comes out of the fittings and connections.

[reef patrol]

It all adds up - And is something to always keep in mind with AIOs.

[tribal dirge]

Indeed

Also algae and bacterial growth

[reef patrol]

Not in AIOs typically. The glycol shit they use is nasty...and doesn't normally get any of that 😄

[tribal dirge]

Lol

[tribal dirge]

But it does happen.

[reef patrol]

Airplanes also crash to the ground. Doesn't happen very often though.

[tribal dirge]

Also, use deionized water. Distilled water isnt enough.

[marsh glade]

Airplanes also crash in the air

[reef patrol]

Other way around.

[marsh glade]

What are we talking about? 😂

[reef patrol]

Ducky seems to be focusing on custom water cooling loops, while the rest of us? are talking AIOS.

[marsh glade]

Oh AIOs for the win

[hollow carbon]

keep in mind that image is an example but can you use your phone to zoom in take a picture if having issue reading text
to see if there is somthing like that

[marsh glade]

Can't be fucked with leak risk

[latent mural]

I dont have text next to my LEDs but im trying to fix it via the cmos battery

[tribal dirge]

Ye, good idea

Could be a sticky fault.

[tribal dirge]

Not really, since there is no ions in the water, if it does leak you won’t short out anything.

[latent mural]

It works again

[tribal dirge]

Nice!

[latent mural]

But my aio made some weird water noises

[hollow carbon]

https://media.tenor.com/SuADVxKkQ-AAAAAM/frankenstein-its-alive.gif

[reef patrol]

I'm afraid that's a misconception.

1. Distilled water is evaporated water, meaning not only are there no minerals, but also no bacteria.
2. All water becomes ionised when you're literally running it through metal.

Mhmm.

[hollow carbon]

yes after long enough it will they tend to add a substance to the liquid that can offset that but it has it limits

[tribal dirge]

Hmm, maybe I’m being kinda paranoid for absolutely no reason, I put additives in it anyways.

[reef patrol]

Nothing wrong with that - And I wouldn't personally be worried about using either deion or distil in a custom loop.

You're going to want to have additives anyway, and metal's coming back either way.

Also the tubing will slowly break apart into the coolant over time (especially softtubing), making it slightly grainy and murky. Which is a big part of doing a cleanse every year or so.

[tribal dirge]

Resistance of the fluid is 1 megaohm anyways lol.

I think it’s fine

[hollow carbon]

next pc build i do i am going passive cooling route

[tribal dirge]

Those are some big fans

[tribal dirge]

I use hardline

Because it looks nicer

[reef patrol]

I use soft, because it's easier and safer 😄

[tribal dirge]

True, not everyone wants to mess with heat, a bandsaw, and the possibility of messing up a bend.

Though I also use a lathe to get the lengths super precise.

[reef patrol]

Two fittings, a length of softtube and a scissor. Done deal 😄

[pale sigil]

Very good and quiet though ß

[tribal dirge]

Your block has built in fittings?

[pale sigil]

I used them for a while

[reef patrol]

Hmm? Two fittings per run.

Just no need for angled adaptors or anything most of the time.

[tribal dirge]

Fittings are so expensive

[reef patrol]

They add up fast that's for sure.

[tribal dirge]

One fitting is like 8 usd lol

[hollow carbon]

but if you buy 1,000 you can get them for like 6-7$ each think of the savings

[tribal dirge]

True, but I don’t need that many fittings

I really only need like 10

[reef patrol]

Posted my rig in #1070668460905988106. Now to go shopping for groceries 😄

[tribal dirge]

Noice

[hollow carbon]

very nice the Duck really brings it together

[hollow carbon]

https://media.tenor.com/NCLe1krU9rYAAAAd/james-veitch-we-need-to-talk.gif

[tribal dirge]

Rubber duckies

[vagrant pagoda]

im all passive

i have the p1

and morhous on my gpu

[hollow carbon]

i was thinking more of CPU cooler with big enough heatsink that Fan could be off or low RPM
and gpu like current Spins fans off if low temp
and case fan low RPM just for a near silent build

[vagrant pagoda]

in the torrent

so i only i have the 180s running

they are doing 800 rpm

i could get away with less rpm

[tribal dirge]

I have 2 fan curve profiles, one for overclocking, and another for normal use.

[vagrant pagoda]

buit i can only hear them if i put my ear to the case lol

[latent mural]

Okay my pc works now but it doesn't post a picture
I resettet cmos 2 times now but i wont show anything

[hollow carbon]

i learned my lessen not to do that with my first pc build

first one i built heard coil wine thought lose connector so put my ear near parts to find out where
next few seconds my Power supply LOUD BANG and ringing in my ears for 1-2 hours

not the best experience for a first time and i was like 15 at the time so panic thinking i just blew it up from doing somthing wrong

[vagrant pagoda]

LMAO

[tribal dirge]

Wait, that just gave me an idea.

[hollow carbon]

so when it boots
anything on screen
image or is it like

Power on
(few seconds)
Power OFF

[vagrant pagoda]

https://hdplex.com/

i liked these better

[latent mural]

Its power on but no signal on my monitors

[hollow carbon]

when you cleaned it did you unplug your monitor from the back of the desktop

if so there is a display ports on the monitor and one for the GPU Make sure it is pluged into the GPU

(should be the connector near the bottom)

[latent mural]

It is 100% in the right ports
I even tried putting it in the motherboard but still no signal

[vagrant pagoda]

they can fit a full size gpu

[hollow carbon]

trying to think of issue not the best at trouble shooting Online

with limited info

[vagrant pagoda]

you arent going to passive a 4090 with anything that isnt man sized

[shadow minnow]

You also won’t cool your wallet if you get a 4090

[latent mural]

The only thing i can do is like swaping my ram but i would need to get out my aio because its in the way

[hollow carbon]

@latent mural only thing i can think of now is double checking all connectors like To motherboard
GPU power etc even power supply
as with some cleaning it is easy to unplug them slightly

[latent mural]

I checked every connection more than twice i cant think of anything else

[vagrant pagoda]

i would love to see proof of any 4090 running passive

[solemn remnant]

does your mobo have an integrated gpu? try that and check from BIOS which one it's primarily using, switch to the proper gpu if you can get there

[vagrant pagoda]

when i had my 290x under water

[shadow minnow]

Under volt and underclock

[vagrant pagoda]

i couldnt get 500w passive with a morad

yes no fans

it wouldnt run passive

even at 60C+ water temps

[solemn remnant]

oh wait you already tried that nvm

[hollow carbon]

would like to check but do you see the Leds flashing on the top left of the mother board still when you Boot your PC ?

[vagrant pagoda]

the CM case only had a 6800 though

and it still had like a dual 120 ran with fans

https://www.techpowerup.com/303532/cooler-master-shows-off-cooling-x-a-unique-prebuilt-with-whole-body-liquid-cooling

yeah

6800xt and a 240mm rad

so 300w gpu and a 140w cpu

withouth any oc

on a 240mm rad

isnt terrible lol

[latent mural]

Its okay now i swaped the ram sticks and now it post picture again

Tysm for the quick help

I did it

[hollow carbon]

No problem

[latent mural]

Thank you for being so kind

[frozen ingot]

greed, greed everywhere

[ashen spindle]

it's a bit of a stretch to think its price fixing when they literally just increase it because they saw people buy it regardless xD

the dram cartel fixing prices by stopping production and all to keep supply low is quite different, not the same just because its in the tech space

[frozen ingot]

people apparently aren't buying so much anymore

the big wallet whales did for a while

[ashen spindle]

aaand paul also looks at prices without factoring in FHF needs rdimms only

I mean for am4 it could also be them not making as much and trying to sell the boards for more while they can and shift production

[frozen ingot]

so.. greed?

[ashen spindle]

yeah, greed is fine, not illegal but annoying to deal with, but greed aint price fixing like paul implies xD

[frozen ingot]

which I guess is also why he's cautious to claim it but rather insists on just being an implication

[ashen spindle]

he directly says he implies it because he thinks all thats missing is concrete proof when I think hes being dumb about it xD

[frozen ingot]

https://tenor.com/view/alien-predator-fun-swing-gif-24426691

[wheat plume]

so many kernels wtf

[frozen ingot]

so user friendly

[wheat plume]

I mean
This is just an info screen

Windows autostarted every app I had disabled in Task Manager after this updates .-.

THEY WERE ALL ENABLED

[cursive summit]

https://9to5mac.com/2023/02/16/iphone-15-pro-usb-c-titanium/

It's finally time

[wheat plume]

I dont buy it...

Apple are never going to swap, Wireless charging only Id suspect

[cursive summit]

The image or that Apple is ditching lightning?

Apple are swapping

[wheat plume]

I doubt it

[cursive summit]

Apple literally has to swap

Didn't apple themselves confirm that

[wheat plume]

no, they just have to not use Lightning, so have no port and use wireless instead

[cursive summit]

I don't see them ditching wired

Peripherals sell

Thanks EU for giving them more profits too

[wheat plume]

Airpods sold

Magsafe needs more sales, so im sure theyll happily push magsafe

[cursive summit]

Too early

Wireless charging sucks ass

[chrome estuary]

plus apple already swapped to USB-C on their higher end iPads

[cursive summit]

Honestly if phones start ditching wired charging, at that point I'll just not own an "up to date" phone

There will always be companies that have headphone jacks and chargers

Well, until we completely overhaul the concept of smartphone, audio, etc

[frozen ingot]

wireless charging sucks ass

[wheat plume]

yes

[tribal dirge]

Literally everything else apple makes uses type c (except that one iPad and a few accessories)

[tribal dirge]

I use it every day

[wheat plume]

iPad uses USB C

[tribal dirge]

And it’s fine

[tribal dirge]

That one base ipad

[wheat plume]

oooh

[tribal dirge]

That apple still sells

[wheat plume]

WAIT WAIT

Only the Pro versions have USB C???

[tribal dirge]

Supposedly

And it’s Thunderbolt

[wheat plume]

🤦‍♀️

ffs

[tribal dirge]

I’m getting the pro anyways, because more storage.

And a screen that you can actually look at in the sun.

[wheat plume]

Is the Pro OLED or Mini LED?

[fair gull]

highly doubt it. not to mentiom we have no official word from big apple

[wheat plume]

new york :P

Is that why the main Apple store is in New York? cause its the BIG Apple store in the Big Apple city?

[tribal dirge]

Oled obviously

[tribal dirge]

This place? (Yes I’ve been there before)

[wheat plume]

Why it copying the entrance to the Lourve Museum ?

[reef patrol]

You answered your own damn question

[wheat plume]

The store holds the infamous Mona iPhone inside it

Stored in a safe place behind bullet proof glass for all to see

[frozen ingot]

they've had that glass cube since like 2004

and you only see it now?

[tribal dirge]

The one next to the WTC?

[barren folio]

Someone still gonna throw tomato sauce on it

[tribal dirge]

It’s actually really clean lol.

[wheat plume]

I forgot they did xd Ive onyl seen the store like one time when I was like 9 years old and never again

[tribal dirge]

Quek

[barren folio]

I meant the Mona Lisa painting

I recall some people putting tomato sauce on a Van Gogh piece in protest

[wheat plume]

yeh, multiple paintings in multiple museums .-.

They think that the oil used in oil paintings is the same fossil fuels that power cars

[ashen spindle]

no not really

its to protest them allowing fracking again, cost living going up and goverment not doing enough against it etc.

[reef patrol]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5WuPXDGxx3I

What I really want to know is why Corridor Digital of all people aren't doing this on local servers instead of relying on a Discord bot...

[hollow carbon]

i think they are using discord to send to computer While adding the prompts i assume only that pc has obs running or somthing ?

[reef patrol]

No they're using midjourney.

But they're also using Stable Diffusion. It is such a weird and mixed use.

My point is - why use third party hosting with obvious word filters for a "slightly offensive" contest. When they can literally just render it locally directly.

[pale sigil]

Wot

[wraith token]

Do you guys spread or just let the cpu block flattens it? Also is that too much?

[reef patrol]

Let it spread by pressure.

[fair gull]

pretty sure its been shown that theres almost no difference between spread or not and pattern doesnt matter much either

[ashen spindle]

just put on enough is all thats needed

[hollow carbon]

the pattern if anything can show a compassion of how much to add to avoid over amount
seen some one looked like they added a entire Tube worth

[ashen spindle]

avoiding over amount isnt really needed aside form saving it or not wanting to clean up later

[hollow carbon]

it was on the surrounding IC / caps and buulk was cleaned up before arriving but still alot left

example of distance

it has been awhile since i worked on other computers is liquid metal more common these days or more enthusiast?

[reef patrol]

Outside of the PS5 LM is still very niche and enthusiast only.

News to me.

All that movement. Would need some seriously well insulated cooling to avoid spillage.

Not for a few years at least, no 😄

[old marlin]

Usually is some foam material that sits around the ihs/silicon and is squished between substrate and cooler

Didn't help the ps5 necessarily

[drowsy isle]

is there any plans to make a TKL keyboard?

[ashen spindle]

not that we know of but probably at some point

[cursive grove]

I just spread it across 80% and then let the pressure do the rest

Not that it matters really

I usually use only a little paste so I can have some leftover to eat

[solemn remnant]

I thought you're supposed to brush and then spit it out

[vagrant pagoda]

The ai in atomic hearts sounds like CABAL from CNC

[wheat plume]

18 EURO TO RENT A MOVIE?????

WTF

[fair gull]

have you checked what rent means at the info icon?

[wheat plume]

you have 14 days to watch it, and once you play the movie that time reduces to 48 hours

so you can watch it as many times as you like within a 48 hour period?

[frozen ingot]

same price for standard and high def too

corporations really be taking the piss these days

[wheat plume]

yep

[fair gull]

nono 48hrs to finish

[wheat plume]

so only can watch one time?

THATS EVEN WORSE .-.
you could probably get a physical copy to keep for 18 euro

[fair gull]

at least thats how its written

[vagrant pagoda]

what movie is it

[fair gull]

well yes but then you need a dvd reader

[wheat plume]

M3gan

[fair gull]

never even heard of it

[wheat plume]

its that sort of horror movie

[gusty kiln]

how much on the play store?

[fair gull]

play store lol

at least say youtube

or amazon video

[vagrant pagoda]

its newish

thats why it cost so much

[gusty kiln]

there's always the "other method"

[wheat plume]

Play Store does movies??

[gusty kiln]

yeah, branches off from youtube

[ashen spindle]

18 bucks 4 months or so before the movie hits netflix seems like a normal deal

you pay extra for a movie a month after cinema release

[gusty kiln]

you can straight up buy it for 25 on the play store

[fair gull]

just rent it on certain websites for the labor of finding said websites

[wheat plume]

Yeah.... Xd that's a normal price to buy a copy

Wait
That's a digital copy also

[fair gull]

why buy it when u only watch it once anyway

[gusty kiln]

if you want "other methods" I gotcha

[chrome estuary]

I've rewatched movies before

[astral haven]

heck ye boiz internet ssh access that is (in theory) secured

[vagrant pagoda]

yeah i love the linode one

its dope

[astral haven]

this is the built in cloudflare one

[vagrant pagoda]

i just stick ssh on a random port lol

[astral haven]

ssh on port 80

[vagrant pagoda]

Xd

[fair gull]

doesnt really secure anything or make it harder

[still loom]

I think it's because it's basically a cinema release for home

Like how Mulan or whatever was released for $25 on Disney+ on release

Normally a movie to rent that's been out for a while is like $5 xD

[vagrant pagoda]

If it's on 22 it will get consently brute forced

[fair gull]

but findinding the new ssh port is also easy and can be automated as easily

not to mention password logon should be not a thing these days

rsa keys or bust

then just leave password logon available as a login method but disallow it for all users. easy honeytrap for f2b

thats how you actually start protecting your server

[wheat plume]

HAH

LOL

[empty wren]

Still bad but...

At least Zuckerberg would be using the money back towards virtual reality

[marsh glade]

"New product announcement: The same product but now we're going to charge you for it and provide you with no tangible benefits whatsoever. In fact, we're going to make your experience demonstrably worse. Also fuck Apple"

[reef tundra]

What is a good virtualisation tool

[wheat plume]

Taskbar icons are fucked up in the Windows 11 Insider builds..good to know

The icon for an app shows up on the wrong monitor and if you move it to the other monitor the icon moves to the other one

but sometimes the icons work right and only show on the taskbar that is on the correct monitor

really hit or miss

Steam and YT Music are NOT on this monitor!! but if I move them to this one, these icons go to the task bar on the other monitor instead... glorious xd

[empty wren]

Hypervisor

If you want Linux and do not mind using the terminal WSL

If you want a better configuration utility VMware or so

At least as far as windows goes

[fair gull]

you can run X powered gui with wsl

[empty wren]

Yeah but configuration is namely done through terminal though

[fair gull]

the only point being you need an x11 redirect to your windows machine

[fair gull]

depends on what you want to virtualize and in what sense

[empty wren]

Well VMware you got a ton to configure on a gui

Disk size

Ram size

How many cpu cores to share

Ect ect

Maybe possible on WSL

But just not as straightforward

[vagrant pagoda]

Isn't the new beta all GUI now?

[empty wren]

No idea

But cool if that is the case

[vagrant pagoda]

In think you just install it off window store and it works

But I've had it installed for so long idk anymore

Also WSL isn't a vm

It isn't virtualized

Its a kernel extension.

So it has no separation or security

[empty wren]

Oh alright then

[crimson wigeon]

Since when?

[fair gull]

was finally able to buy eqMac pro

music sounds tons better now with unlimited band EQ

[vagrant pagoda]

You talking about WSL?

It's always been native

That's what it's subsystem

[crimson wigeon]

WSL1 emulates syscall and is no VM, WSL2 is just a VM in disguise running in HyperV

[vagrant pagoda]

Yes

I haven't used 2

2 is all windows 11 isn't it?

[crimson wigeon]

Narf

[vagrant pagoda]

Oh?

I thought the whole Wayland/Weston vGPU over rdp thing was a 11 feature

Which is what made wsl2 wsl2

Idk I don't use it that often lol

[pale sigil]

Huh this Lenovo Tab does not feel 16:10

Maybe it's just me being used to the iPad

Screen is incredible tho

[cursive grove]

Looks like a tablet to me

[pale sigil]

No surprise but the speakers aren't remotely as good my pro

But eh

[pale sigil]

Soooooo

Return?

Mayne it's adjusting?

Just used a retention test....

Um ye

@reef patrol you're good at this shit I think.

@ashen spindle maybe you?

[ashen spindle]

I mean looks like retention but idk what to do about it

[ashen spindle]

https://twitter.com/IanCutress/status/1627720279450320898

𝐷𝑟. 𝐼𝑎𝑛 𝐶𝑢𝑡𝑟𝑒𝑠𝑠 (@IanCutress)

@AMD @LisaSu Cache and Fabric on the bottom
CPU and GPU execution units on top

!!!!

Twitter · Feb 20, 2023, 5:22 PM

future stuff is going to look wild

[ashen spindle]

dont see this having any relation to consumer for now

[pale sigil]

I'm legit already getting annoyed with android

Gestures are horrible holy shit

[wheat plume]

I need to block this channel from showing up

All his videos are 2 minutes of intro then like 7 minutes of explaining shit vaguely related to the video title then ad sponsor section then the actual topic of the title then the end

[crimson wigeon]

Hmmm....

[cursive summit]

Why tf are you using gestures

You alright?

[pure garnet]

Honestly I don't even know what those are and I use android

[cursive summit]

It's where instead of using the 3 buttons, you have to swipe to navigate the system

So no more back button, middle "return to home screen" button and the "windows" button

It's some of the most ***arded shit I have ever seen for people that want to create problems where there are none

[chrome estuary]

everyone likes to complain about software buttons when they see my screen, demanding that i use gestures for "more screen real estate."

[pale sigil]

Are you shitting me

Max faves I can have is 6

[frozen ingot]

wouldn't want to rely on gestures on a janky assmung touch panel

[wheat plume]

anyone here a car nerd?

2010 Seat Ibiza
Second hand

mom thinks it would break down pretty often if you drive it every day for over 2 hours .-.

my uncles car is older and its perfectly fine, shes just saying BS

vag?

yep

[pale sigil]

Ngl this is pissing me off too

[frozen ingot]

I would not a vw group car

as someone who's worked at a vw/audi dealership

yep

I worked as a mechanic there

horrible cars to work on

needlessly overengineered in so many places

I get triggered just watching vw/audi engine teardowns on youtube

[pale sigil]

Why isn't there basic shit like this?!?!??!

[frozen ingot]

the engineering bloat really took off in the 00s

[wheat plume]

So ... Maybe go with a different car if I can find one? :/

[frozen ingot]

I would

[pale sigil]

Like I just don't get it

[frozen ingot]

unless you got it leased with all service/repair included steer clear of vw stuff imo

[pale sigil]

So many basic tablet features just don't exist

How billion $ companies

[frozen ingot]

2010 vw/seat etc will likely have an early gen tsi engine too if its petrol

[wheat plume]

It's petrol yeah

What does that engine mean?

[frozen ingot]

the early tsi engines had a lot of issues

[wheat plume]

Oh

[pale sigil]

Fuck it

I think I'm gonna return this tab

[wheat plume]

How many years have you had issues with every piece of tech you've tried?

[pale sigil]

This tine the issue isn't a fault

It's just shit

The experience

[cursive summit]

Get the S8+ or Ultra

[wheat plume]

Aren't those like 800 euro?

[frozen ingot]

my parents has some android tab, its okay from what I can tell

[pale sigil]

Bro it's the same shit

[cursive summit]

Aren't yall like rich?

[wheat plume]

If I was rich I would have to get a cheap ass 2010 car

[pale sigil]

I just checked again Samsung and I tried it again the other day

[wheat plume]

I'd get something new

[pale sigil]

It's the same issue with Samsung

It's a bit better but still lacking basic shit

[cursive summit]

You are finding issues in perfectly functional hardware

How about.. it's just you that's the problem?

[wheat plume]

Hardware
Yes

[pale sigil]

The hardware is fine

[wheat plume]

Software
No

[frozen ingot]

I just avoid assmung

[pale sigil]

Software no

[cursive summit]

Software is fine

[pale sigil]

It's not though

[cursive summit]

You people have some bizarre expectations

Like what are you hoping for, a NASA rocket launch control station?

[pale sigil]

Bizarre????

Bitch if apple can do it for years why can't android tabs

[cursive summit]

Wtf do you need that these tablets don't do

Name even one reasonable thing

[pale sigil]

Tbis

[cursive summit]

So, picture in picture type of thing

[pale sigil]

Samsung I get 4 windows but I can't get a decent app drawer or preview windows or apps that are open on the right I can just guide in

[cursive summit]

That already exists

[frozen ingot]

android on pad is largely ignored by developers

[pale sigil]

It doesn't

[cursive summit]

Just display them side by side

[pale sigil]

Omg

[cursive summit]

What's the problem

[pale sigil]

No

I'm not on about split

I can't view all my app windows and drag then to the split screen, Samsung only allows a shitty app drawer

That doesn't even show apps real time

Samsung is definitely better than zui haha but every frustration I have is the same on both devices

[cursive summit]

I fail to comprehend why you would need such functionality ngl

[pale sigil]

Gestures are also shit

[cursive summit]

Gestures are shit in general

[pale sigil]

Mate it's basic functions and are what make the experience smooth

[cursive summit]

What basic functions

Who needs such functionality

It's all there to be a comfortable experience already

[pale sigil]

Also apps aren't forced to scale properly to tablets so split screen can be horrible

[cursive summit]

You are the problem, not the software or hardware

[pale sigil]

You might not need it but the point is it's missing loads

[cursive summit]

Stick with Shattple

[pale sigil]

Everything feels half assed

[frozen ingot]

because it is

[cursive summit]

This is far more than good enough and I'll never switch from Android

[frozen ingot]

they barely care about the tab versions of android

[pale sigil]

Good, you shouldn't switch to android

Kek

I guess tbf

Till you properly experience IPad OS

You are happy with less

[cursive summit]

More like I don't need more

[pale sigil]

Screen is incredible though

[cursive summit]

I can't even touch the damn iPads they are so uncomfortable

[frozen ingot]

I've only used a droid trab briefly but for browsing, netflix etc it did the job

[pale sigil]

It's not about having more

[cursive summit]

4:3 is an absolute atrocity

[pale sigil]

It's just better

[cursive summit]

It's worse?

[frozen ingot]

I wouldn't buy one myself though, doesn't have the app library I want

[pale sigil]

That's screen size not os

I'd agree with you on that

[cursive summit]

How am I even supposed to experience the features that you are so highly acclaiming that are running on shite hardware

Screw 4:3

16:9/:10 or screw off

[wheat plume]

Screw 4:3

16:10 for tablets is king

[pale sigil]

M2 is shite?!?!

Lmao

[cursive summit]

I only have a problem with the ergonomics of it

I never even got to experience the M1/M2 just cause the thing is so damn uncomfortable

[pale sigil]

Hahaha

[frozen ingot]

what do you do with it, stick it up ur butt?

[wheat plume]

They are sharp corners all around

[pale sigil]

At least I can say I actually commited to trying both

Funny thing is my pro is from 2015

Still does a lot nicer like in the video I sent

[cursive summit]

I hate apple anyways so even if I liked their hardware, I have more self respect to stick with what I believe with than buy their hardware

[pale sigil]

Even multitasking is more fluid and smooth

[frozen ingot]

I got a mini 2 from 2015, starting to feel its age but it still soldiers on

[pale sigil]

Ye it will do tbf

Pro was using very good hardware

I'm kinda surprised about the s8 plus speakers though

I took my IPad in to compare them and idk how apple do it

Sounds so good even from pro 2015

Theres things I like about anxroid I can't deny blow apple out of the water tablet wise

I'm loving stuff like Samsung dex

[frozen ingot]

ipad aspect ratio is great for a lot of apps but its kinda awkward for like watching netflix

[pale sigil]

Actually impresses me

[pale sigil]

Ye this was something that annoyed me with super wide content

[frozen ingot]

yeah not sitting well with people who likes to watch a lot of video on their tablets

I don't really buy a tablet for that though personally

the big selling point with ipad imo is the app library, there's so much powerful stuff for various professional niches

[cursive summit]

Might be why I have such a hate for Apple's devices

Not only the company polices but also the target demographic

But my consumption is 99% videos

And that horrendous form factor of 4:3 absolutely reeks

My samsung's 16:10 is glorious for vids

Kinda like portable hi end cinema

[halcyon moss]

4:3 is great for everything else.

[frozen ingot]

ipad is a super powerful platform for audio/video work

[halcyon moss]

16:9 is just plain stupid on a tablet. There is not enough height. My shield tablet was 16:10 and that was already not high enough

And these days everything is even wider than 16:9 anyway so your point is moot :p

[pale sigil]

Im
Uploading a personal video just for you baby

[cursive summit]

No U

[pale sigil]

4:3 is trippy and amazing sometimes lol

[cursive summit]

If a decent quality 16:10 display existed for my PC, I would never buy 16:9 ever again

[pale sigil]

16:10 is nice though and great fir content

Hahaha I use 16:10 on my laptop

It's nice

[halcyon moss]

It's so big

[cursive summit]

I genuinely don't get why 16:10 displays aren't made for gaming

[pale sigil]

https://youtu.be/6UtuXRXr94s

Bleh

[cursive summit]

Even for office work they are falling out

[pale sigil]

The video quality hasn't processed yet

But enjoy my snapping at you

[frozen ingot]

16:10 was pretty popular in the late 00s/early 2010s but for whatever reason it died off

[pale sigil]

[halcyon moss]

I still have a dell 1920x1200 screen. It's still fine

[frozen ingot]

much better for computing than 16:9

got a pair of older 1680x1050 and 1920x1200 screens too

[halcyon moss]

Current laptop has ah 16:10 as well with 25xx x ????

[frozen ingot]

the latter has pretty nice image quality for its age

only 60hz though

[halcyon moss]

The LG up piqued my interest as well

[cursive summit]

I think my waifu has a tiny 13" Dell

With a reso of 3840x2400

16:10 4K

It's... not good

Scaling is so bad for that 13" screen

[pale sigil]

@cursive summit

Video now

[cursive summit]

What do you want, honey

Why should I watch your noods

[halcyon moss]

Well that background is def teenage cringe :p

[cursive summit]

Fine I watched it

And I still don't get the issue

Just.. tab out?

[chrome estuary]

I have a 24" 1440p monitor and I love it

[cursive summit]

Youtube vanced for me has picture in picture mode, unlike normal youtube

If I tab out, the vid goes with me

[pale sigil]

YouTube has small window for me too

[cursive summit]

I don't need to do some fancy shenanigans to open more sidebars to do my shitz

[pale sigil]

But I don't wanna watch on a smaller window

[cursive summit]

Tab out, go to browser, check whatever you need

I don't understand your workflow bud

[pale sigil]

That's just a solution for an issue that shouldn't exist

[cursive summit]

Your workflow is the issue

[wheat plume]

Just got suggested to get a beetle car instead

Fuck no

I hate beetles

[pale sigil]

ITS CALLED MULTI TASKING

I don't wanna tab out!!!!!!!

[cursive summit]

THERE ARE NO PROBLEMS WITH MULTITASKING ON SAMSUNG

[wheat plume]

^

[pale sigil]

There are though

[frozen ingot]

lol suggested another vw moneypit

[cursive summit]

You are the problem bud

[pale sigil]

Nou

You don't know something is an issue till you realise there's better.

[cursive summit]

How's that better

I don't want your app drawer

Why is there a sidebar if you swipe left?

That's just bad design

No sidebars, nothing, just buttons is how it should be

16:10 might have a tiny resurgence

[frozen ingot]

yeah laptops still has it

[cursive summit]

At least in mobile world

[frozen ingot]

but desktop monitors kinda abandoned it sometime mid 2010s

[cursive summit]

Idk I just don't like 16:9 form factor that much, it's too wide

16:10 would be bigger but would make the width more bearable

More akin to cinema

It's just too wide and narrow

[wheat plume]

I like wide for games

but so far, the 16:10 on steam deck isnt that big a problem for me

though maybe in prey, FOV too low

[pale sigil]

Why would you want buttons

[cursive summit]

Cause that's how it should be?

[pale sigil]

You just swipe up for that not the side

[cursive summit]

That is just really bad design

[pale sigil]

The s8 literally has swipe up app draw lmao

[cursive summit]

Relatively sure I disabled that as soon as I got mine

Nowadays everything comes with gestures, first thing to do is disable that trash

[pale sigil]

Tbf I can't knock people not not liking gestures

[wheat plume]

headphones
showing IEMs in the thumbnail

🤦‍♀️

[cursive summit]

Technically headphones

Headphones,
a device with a part to cover each ear through which you can listen to music, radio broadcasts, etc. without other people hearing

It's not overears, but it's still technically a headphone

[wheat plume]

I see

[pale sigil]

Tell you what though

[cursive summit]

IEMs are still what most should call them tbf

[pale sigil]

Fucking love getting my split keyboard back

Fuck you apple for removing it

I ain't gonna buy a keyboard ya twats

[wheat plume]

Apple: Removing features, adding to the price

[pale sigil]

Another thing

I do love my back gestures so much

Apples back gestures is abysmal

Ayyup

[wheat plume]

Android 14 is making the back gesture even better

[pale sigil]

Nova launcher seems to support tablets

[wheat plume]

youll see where going back will take you before you commit to the entire gesture

[astral haven]

To be fair, all the features apple has had for 10 years are polished to a shine and every time they add a feature they mess it up hardcore

[pale sigil]

Nvm lol

Nova does not work on tabs

Wait it does but it seems it's being overwritten

Ngl the Microsoft launcher is alright

[final flame]

Can't wait to see how much of a shitshow it is, who is the host of the video

Linus probably know more about audio than the rest of his team but he still isn't the best

James is also okay

[pale sigil]

Now this is what I love about android

The launchers

Fixed some of my issues

[wheat plume]

xd

[thick elk]

Watched the video, besides the bad title it's not that great

[wheat plume]

LOL

The two things sticking out the front of this are connected to live and neutral

[astral haven]

Also the new meta is the truthear hexa

[old marlin]

wouldn't exactly call 7hz "unknown" in the IEM world

especially when talking about planars

[pale sigil]

Sweet Jesus I should not have streamed destiny to my tablet

@ashen spindle I need QDOLED in my life

Using AMOLED to play destiny 2 and it makes me drool

The blacks

Fuck it lol

This is my life now

Never using IPS again

[ashen spindle]

I mean you are comparing it against a weaknes of ips lel

VA might also do the trick for you

[pale sigil]

Not colour wise

The colours are beautiful

The gold looks good

Everything looks good

[ashen spindle]

ya I'm saying VA will also have better contrast than ips

[final flame]

Va also has smear

[ashen spindle]

not the good ones

[final flame]

You're still losing out on pixel response time even compared to ips

[ashen spindle]

yeah but for dark stuff like he pointed out you wont have ips glow or anything on va

and the good vas from samsung dont have the smear anymore

[final flame]

Personally I'd always just lose out on contrast for a better color monitor

[pale sigil]

I wish dell sold that monitor on Amazon

[ashen spindle]

I mean I have the qdoled alienware but considering the VA options can be a bit cheaper that is an important factor too

[final flame]

I also find oled panels have too good contrast to the point to where some dark images can lose detail in the darkness

Maybe that's just how my note 9 oled was but yea

[ashen spindle]

havent really used any other oled so cant compare

[final flame]

Take my profile banner on discord for example

The dark details in the BG you can't really see on oled without a higher level of brightness

Meanwhile on my ultragear at home I can see everything

[ashen spindle]

ah yeah brightness is still a limitation

[vagrant pagoda]

homes is in a dark room, nothing will look better than oled.

[ashen spindle]

well yea but I'm thinking about price too

[pale sigil]

@final flame post the pic?

[final flame]

My banner?

You can grab it with inspect element on discord quite easily

[vagrant pagoda]

the stars?

[final flame]

Not just the stars there's quite a bit of noise and also dust clouds

[vagrant pagoda]

yeah my cx has no issues

[final flame]

In general I need to start color correcting using my iPad that way I can get the contrast right easily

[vagrant pagoda]

now if the room is brighter than the details nothing will help

thats just how it should be

[pale sigil]

@final flame I'm on my tablet ATM

[final flame]

Know of any good screen mirroring software?

That way I can compare colors without having to send a screenshot to it

[pale sigil]

Moonlight

Vnc

[final flame]

Aight I'll check those out

I'll also need a stand

[sharp badger]

https://www.tomshardware.com/news/corsair-launches-96gb-ram

[halcyon moss]

i use rss in my feedly every day

[halcyon moss]

too far to scroll back, which tablet did you end up picking?

[reef patrol]

Eeeey. The Mansen Lenovo saga might finally be at at end. Lenovo won't replace the monitor under warranty, only "warranty", so I reached out to the seller who immediately allowed me to return and refund it. So I just bought a new monitor in the meantime, so I won't be panel-less.

Ended up buying a AOC CU34G2X/BK on a slight sale.

[ashen spindle]

lenovo? you mean AOC ? xD

[reef patrol]

Right! Sorry. Still recovering from being a bit sick. Was looking at the G30 variant of my existing monitor, which is where the brands got mixed up. It had 165hz but didn't bring anything else to the table and was more expensive to boot.

[frozen ingot]

I need to send my monitor in for repair/replacement before warranty runs out

when it hasn't been powered on/used for a while it'll do this

[reef patrol]

My old AOC had that on bootup. Vanished within 30seconds or so.

[frozen ingot]

yeah takes a few mins for it to disappear on mine

[reef patrol]

Managed to somehow sell it to someone at a very good price - To someone who had the issues as well and wanted an identical second monitor 😄

[frozen ingot]

this ones an assmung curved monitor

I've put off sending it in since it doesn't persist, but gotta get my moneys worth on that warranty

these fancy new gaming monitors doesn't seem to last very well, I have monitors from the early 2010s that's literally gotten kicked and spilled on and they still work like its nothing

[reef patrol]

The curvature definitely doesn't help with shipping.

[frozen ingot]

fortunately I still have the box and accessories

but yeah they're fragile bastards so still awkward to just handle without risking damaging that panel

[zealous lake]

My LG monitor from 2011 has been through like 5 rocky car rides just tucked away in the trunk and still works without issue so they do seem pretty durable

[reef patrol]

The hunt for ever thinner bezels and panels with more and more features like curvature or larger panels just makes for a less strong overall product.

It's like comparing an ancient Nokia to your run of the mill glass on both sides smartphone.

[frozen ingot]

newer LGs seems to be pretty trash tier

seen a lot of examples of lg tvs and monitors dying after a few years

[shadow minnow]

The pricing sounds fair

[halcyon moss]

it kinda does righT?

[ashen spindle]

given part of the reason is to bring prices down when you need to populate 8 channel boards and such, thats expected

16 sticks of 24gb to lower the cost compared to 16 sticks of 32gig

[vagrant pagoda]

No one running an 8 channel board cares about cost of the ram XD

The reason is that it's 24gbit dies

They can't get 32gbit dies with good yields

[ashen spindle]

if you need only a certain amount of ram and have that multiple times and not just on one board but multiple racks, that adds up to a lot to matter about

[vagrant pagoda]

Wait got it to low

They can't get 64gbit dies

So 48gbit is the next best thing

The 48gbit sticks are 16 module's, 64gb sticks are 32 module

[cursive summit]

https://twitter.com/9550pro/status/1627974532282875904

HXL (@9550pro)

ASUS X670 New Beta BIOS 0921 (AFESA 1005C)

Adds for x3d

dynamic ccd priority switch with core flex, os / driver agnostic so win10 win11 ok

https://t.co/H4btWNtlfD

Twitter · Feb 21, 2023, 10:12 AM

Wtf is AFESA

I thought it was called AGESA

[reef patrol]

Look at your keyboard, now back to me.

proceeds to quote entire old spice commercial

[ashen spindle]

he just discovered the first typo on the net

[cursive summit]

Look, I already considered the potential of a misspelling

[reef patrol]

[cursive summit]

But knowing how many borderline stupid acronyms there are, I have no clue whether an AFESA actually exists or not

[ashen spindle]

google helps with that quite easily

[final flame]

Ferb I know what we're going to do today

[marsh glade]

I'm a proud member of the AAAAA - American Association Against Acronym Abuse

[pale sigil]

Lenovo P12 Pro

[vagrant pagoda]

It's the new female gendered agesa

AMD Female Encapsulated Software Architecture

[dire bone]

This is exactly what I needed!

[ashen spindle]

I am a bit worried that the 24 version also doesn’t come in at least 6000MT

[cursive summit]

https://www.notebookcheck.net/Lousy-RTX-4080-sales-allegedly-prompting-Nvidia-to-constrict-RTX-4090-stock-to-push-people-towards-the-US-1-200-offering.696049.0.html

Stop producing 4090... to sell more 4080?

Why would you do that

[ashen spindle]

Yes that makes 0 sense

[cursive summit]

Wouldn't 4090 selling better than 4080 be an actually good thing for Nvidia

Unless the ROI on 4080 is higher than 4090, somehow

[ashen spindle]

If we could just not have to cover MLIDs hallucinations here that would be great

[hybrid compass]

Yeah mlid is a terrible souce

[wheat plume]

hows he got twitter notifications on the panel? xd

Unless hes just using the twitter icon for system notifications LOL

[gusty kiln]

Wonder how much stock of 4080 they have

[astral haven]

alot seeing how retail stores have big stocks

[gusty kiln]

A lot of money just sitting on shelves

Even if 4090s are selling great, lots of unrealized profits just sitting there in 4080s

4070tis are selling great though

I'm even tempted to get it

[fair gull]

i mean

thats up to nvidia in terms of pricing and their AiB partners

[crisp granite]

it ain't a bad price tbh

still, happy enough with my 3070
and a 4070Ti won't be providing enough performance uplift for about 50% more cost

[marsh glade]

This is where I'm at. My 3070 will last me at least another generation or two without breaking a sweat

I'll wait for an actually graphically intensive game that I want to play

And not "needs a monster rig because it's optimized like shit" that's not good enough

[astral haven]

theres a limit tho, tsmc is charging big buckaroos, dies this gen are well over double the price of last gen

[crisp granite]

my TSM stock go brrrr when earnings call then

[crisp granite]

probably going to jump to AMD when the time comes as well
I find I'm still not actually playing games with RT or DLSS all that often (much to NVidia's dismay)
would rather just have better rasterization and more VRAM

[ashen spindle]

no because apple cut wafer orders so probably going down in stock

and the cost for nvidia dies being so high is more from samsung being so cheap last gen rather than tsmc increasing it 2x from their own previous node

[sharp badger]

Same opinion here with my 3080 but it would be nice to buy a 4090 just for testing stuff and not being limited to anything related to graphics

Also really interested in these new AMD X3D processors but don't need it, would be interested to test them though

[marsh glade]

My next upgrade will also by CPU based and man do those X3Ds look nice

I have the 5600X right now, quite reasonable chip but that will be my limiting factor for the games I play

[reef patrol]

Same.

[half kite]

[pale sigil]

So I returned the tablet

And as much as I ranted I still came out quite impressed with how far android on tablets has come, especially Samsung and MIUI.

But there's still a lot to do and I can't fault it since apple have had a lot longer to refine the tablet ecosystem over android.

iPads used to be in a similar state to android tablets, just iOS ported to a tablet which wasn't that great but then they commited with IPad OS which just gets better and better over time, I feel like android is finally making that transition now with the likes of Android 12L.

[frozen ingot]

tbh samsung is one of the few larger brands that still even bothers with tabs

[pale sigil]

Which allows companies such as Samsung/Lenovos/MIUi to improve.

[pale sigil]

I think this is going to change soon.

[astral haven]

whats crazy is samsung dex is a full on useable desktop

[pale sigil]

Google have commited more to making android for tablets.

[frozen ingot]

I don't know, the android tablet market has kinda been in a coma for years

[pale sigil]

It is and I can't help but praise it

[crimson wigeon]

For now, watch them lose interest soon

[pale sigil]

Lenovo are similar

[frozen ingot]

barely registering life signs in comparison with apples market share

[astral haven]

theyve kept it up for a loooong time at this point

[frozen ingot]

gonna take a lot to up its market share

[crimson wigeon]

Maybe if they ever bring back tablet UI...

[pale sigil]

But as much as I like Dex etc I want a good tablet experience

[astral haven]

surface lel

[pale sigil]

Dex is more a consequence of mobile desktop

Than tablet

Surface isn't a tablet and idc what anyone says.

[astral haven]

uh

[pale sigil]

Windows is ass on tablet and I spoke to a bunch of people asking if they ever use it without a keyboard and every single one said they don't really use it as a tablet.

I don't want a desktop.

[astral haven]

🤷 find other people then

if it can be used standing up its a tablet imo

[pale sigil]

I use windows on my laptop touch screen

Just don't like it, I think windows 8 felt way better for that.

Ironically

[astral haven]

our company deploys 2 types of tablets, ipads and surfaces
both are required to come with keyboards, and the apple keyboards are atrocious

[pale sigil]

Haha ye apple keebs are so bad

[astral haven]

one problem with windows is surface is a different experience than everyone else

[astral haven]

at this point we have tried apple and logitech and we really dunno what to do now

[pale sigil]

Haha tbh I wouldn't wanna use a laptop for proper proper work, I'd rather just use a laptop.

I just take notes etc and that's about it, surface would probably be better for work I can't deny that.

[astral haven]

i do alot of work at remote sites and i have been assigned a surface and a thinkpad, and i always take the surface when I can...

[pale sigil]

Makes sense.

[cursive summit]

Fuck I hate these bars

How's the 2% like fifth the size of 52%

[pale sigil]

Surface isn't bad but it's just not a great tablet experience imo, I want to do as little as possible to get to where I want.

I also don't lime Windows window management etc

[ashen spindle]

speaking of laptop, guess its time to fix this thing or I have to look for a new one zzz

[pale sigil]

Even on desktop it drives me nuts

[astral haven]

again try 11

[pale sigil]

I have been using 11

Dau it came out

[cursive summit]

11 superlight?

[pale sigil]

Well on my laptop yes

You know this

The one with the touch screen

[cursive summit]

Mate I got no clue about your living arrangements

[astral haven]

look i have no idea what issues you could have with it?

[cursive summit]

And I ain't coming anywhere close

[astral haven]

theres not enough room for more than 4 windows on that size screen

[pale sigil]

@cursive summit bitch I came to you about the os install and shit

You're the one whoade me aware of it lol

[cursive summit]

You are talking about someone else

[pale sigil]

No?

[astral haven]

my only tablet experience on linux to be fair is the steam deck but it was so bad on the desktop i had to get a mouse

[pale sigil]

XD

Both mu deck and laptop

[astral haven]

then i found out my phone could be used as a trackpad and now i use that which is a real nice feature

[cursive summit]

What

What are you on about

[astral haven]

ah nice removing the evidence

[cursive summit]

It was never there to begin with

[astral haven]

it literally says original message was deleted lmao

[shadow minnow]

And we know the author deleted it

[pale sigil]

Sec

[cursive summit]

Nah just mods being naughty

[shadow minnow]

No I would be able to see that

Lies

[cursive summit]

Oppression against the minorities

[shadow minnow]

https://tenor.com/view/fleetwood-mac-little-lies-stevie-nicks-lindsey-buckingham-christine-mcvie-gif-16272416

[cursive summit]

Rally the masses! We rise up against the government!

[pale sigil]

Oi

Nob

[astral haven]

it would be good if liars were a minority but im not sure i believe that

[shadow minnow]

Since when do you speak about yourself as we

[pale sigil]

I'll delete your last messages in the last 14 days too if you want

[shadow minnow]

Smh vex

[pale sigil]

Twat

[shadow minnow]

Superiority complex

[cursive summit]

Jesus, talk about mod abuse

[shadow minnow]

You did that to me once

[shadow minnow]

He is no longer mod I’ll ban him

[cursive summit]

Go on

[pale sigil]

That was an accident

[cursive summit]

You'll be doing everyone a favour