🔌│tech

[crisp granite]

that's already been proven lol

Chevy Bolt go ssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssss

[empty wren]

Nissian leaf?

[mild dome]

batteries are mostly made of cobalt, lithium, and graphite
People are trying to figure out how to remove primarily cobalt since that's the most expensive part. Sulphur would be ideal, but Lithium-Sulphur batteries tend to swell a lot.
though I have heard that using Sodium-Sulphur might be an option

[empty wren]

Maybe if resources got put more into granite batteries

Could get larger batteries then or less heavy ones for more range

[mild dome]

One of the more wacky ideas that might be super good is aluminium-air batteries. Don't even need to carry the oxidiser with you

I imagine trucks might rely on aluminium-air batteries simply because charging a semi would be a nightmare, and you can easily stow the batteries on the trailer.

[empty wren]

It would be even better

If batteries were removed from the equation for the most part

Just would need expensive road reconstruction

But say you go the campyard

Smaller battery engages

Then when you get back in the road it charges up again

And turns off

Anywho there was a video talking about how charging a Tesla semi truck would cuck the grid in California

Elon is gonna give Texas another set of blackouts

And sadly is gonna kill people in the process

[true quest]

just texas things

[empty wren]

Rip my little buddy

But speaking of

How were you doing when that happened

[true quest]

which one

[empty wren]

When it was winter

[true quest]

from what year

[empty wren]

Bro

You make it sound like it is normal

February 2021

[true quest]

ah yes

when the hell that is texas literally froze over

for an entire week

[empty wren]

We all know that

But how were you doing

[true quest]

freezing alive

[empty wren]

Well good thing you unfroze then

You know some fish hibernate

I am guessing you are one of those

[true quest]

https://tenor.com/view/joel-spinning-fish-joel-pride-emote-gif-26200960

[empty wren]

What is that

Sargo

Taimen

Walleye

Blueline

[empty wren]

Nazi tech

Good on them thinking what reality is

Honda did it long ago

😏

Wait sorry

I mean toyota

Not Honda

😵‍💫

Does it make any sense to even use that

Because what is the upside remind me please of the rotary engine

This sounds more to show off as I thought

Correct me if I am wrong

Like still cool

Well if they ever fix efficiency

Could be interesting

Well even one to me seems like a bad idea

Two is 😵‍💫

Maybe it is efficient for what they are doing I do not know, I am not a engine expert

oOoOO I see

Tiny generator

Nevermind

Sorry

It is 1

I mean 1am😅

[mild dome]

Mazda designed an amazing rotary engine it used in its sports cars
Problem was that as good as the engine was it still underperformed compared to a normal piston engine. Sounded cool when reving tho

[empty wren]

Silent getaway vehicle

They made a backup hopefully

Wait

They put into a car

[mild dome]

oof

[empty wren]

Mmm yes drive it harder

[true quest]

@empty wren don't think i didn't catch that

[empty wren]

Aye you came too late to use a dumb furry gif

[mild dome]

IRC The rotary engine had to be discontinued because it was impossible to meet emission standard with them, since by design they burn a crap tonne more oil then piston cars.

Here is a fantastic review of one of their older cars
https://youtu.be/xAkJYnxFYJQ

[empty wren]

When electric cars become the norm the rotary engine will be the norm combustion

[true quest]

16 times the emissions

[mild dome]

Also apparently Mazda used the Rotary engine's vague displacement to cheat in races. Because no one could agree on exactly how much displacement a rotary engine had Mazda could put a much larger engine their race cars then what would be allowed with a piston engine

[mild dome]

https://tenor.com/view/its-ok-everything-is-fine-dumpster-fire-garbage-gif-17061296

[empty wren]

Damn at least the car is useful for something I guess

Too bad it aint fall yet

Some neighbors burn leaves

Lol

[true quest]

we could be burning trash instead of oil for fuel smh my head

[mild dome]

Use the car to kill yourself in the garage faster

[empty wren]

They are idiots

They do it every year

Thankfully not on my coldsack

[mild dome]

Concept: ethanol powered carriages
Where the ethanol is used to power the horses pulling the carriage

[empty wren]

Yooo I got an idea

You know how people burn rubber in the garage

Some should stopwatch that with rotary engine

[empty wren]

Energize hear me out HYDROGEN FUEL CELL

[true quest]

submerge entire engine

ez

[empty wren]

Why not use a marker and do it by full revolution

Oh

Okay then

Hooligan?

So a motor hooligan

Okay then

Hmm kinda makes sense why kenblock had a brand named hoonigan or honigan

Excellent

Road paparazzi fandom

[true quest]

if you're not racing it down the volcano, are you even using it correctly

[empty wren]

Bro this aint a Simpsons episode

Also ten bucks that if locke starts he will not be to brake in time

[true quest]

https://youtu.be/XyuIIUrGGEY?t=187

here is your first contender

[empty wren]

Tf

[true quest]

just click play

[empty wren]

So you expect locke to anger a volcano

And do a Speedrun in the game called the floor is lava?

That sounds sick

How much obsidian did you gather?

[true quest]

ez prince rupert drop factory

[empty wren]

Obsidian

Gonna have to come there some time and build a sand frame

[true quest]

free activated charcoal

[empty wren]

And light it with the cheap Bic lighter I find in the street

You hear that energize

The hydron collider will never get us a portal to the hell dimension

But the black sand will

[true quest]

i only need the hadron collider to get me a portal out of this life

[empty wren]

[true quest]

can't wait to see more plans for the next one

[empty wren]

But why

They literally run it for a few moments before it stop working

Imagine building a bigger one

And it ends up not working at all for years at a time

[true quest]

spanning multiple countries

[empty wren]

Ah yes haha

Where they gonna put it

Cannot put it under ground

Will later shatter from earth tension

[true quest]

gonna offer them my backyard, hopefully it fits

[empty wren]

Bro

[true quest]

would be interesting if there was one built spanning the entire circumference of the earth

[empty wren]

They will probably have a hard time getting it work

[true quest]

just power it using earth's magnetic core

free energy

[empty wren]

Not the issue

I would think

From what I heard about it

They do not know what to really do with it

Maybe they do and I just do not know

[true quest]

smashing particles together seems like enough

there's plenty to discover at those subatomic levels

[empty wren]

Inb4 it creates an explosion spanning Earths diameter

Mm yes final moments will staring at glass tube

[old marlin]

Next lhc expansion will already

[true quest]

i know, im awaiting further details

[astral haven]

I actually wonder the cost of an equatorial collider

[true quest]

certainly it the quatrillions

[sharp badger]

https://www.asus.com/motherboards-components/motherboards/workstation/pro-ws-w790-ace/

2TB DDR5 🤑

[ashen spindle]

2TB RDIMM 💸

[wheat plume]

GOOD NEWS??
SUSAN LEFT YOUTUBE

[old marlin]

Bad news, new CEO apparently is web 3 bs supporter

[tribal dirge]

My server has 3.2tb of DDR5 ECC.

[reef patrol]

https://tenor.com/view/why-huh-but-why-gif-13199396

[tribal dirge]

Crunching Big Data.

[ashen spindle]

3.2tb of rdimms or unbuffered

[tribal dirge]

Unbuffered

[ashen spindle]

so a lot cheaper than the 2tb that board would need xD

[tribal dirge]

No, it’s 425 usd per stick

[ashen spindle]

and rdimms of the same size are cheaper for you?

[tribal dirge]

It’s what they had at the time, couldn’t find any rdimm variants at the time.

[ashen spindle]

pretty sure rdimms are still more expensive to get so the 2tb could still be more since you can only used buffered sticks on it

[tribal dirge]

True

[wheat plume]

Discover got SSSOOOOOO MUCH better looking in 5.27

its no longer a list of apps with missing icons all over the place

[misty saffron]

and was replaced with another person who’s been in management for years

do you really expect change?

for the better, that is

[old marlin]

seems horrible for your wrist

[wheat plume]

You know how Quantum Computing is the next generation of regular computing?

That implies than Non Binary is the next generation of humanity!!

cause Quantum Computing goes beyond binary!

#DailyLanaShitposting

[crisp granite]

Flawed logic

Humans aren’t getting the same “next generation” experience

Nothing is fundamentally changing other than people becoming stupid

[tribal dirge]

Speaking of quantum computing, I’ve Mande quantum functions before in Qskit.

Using IBM’s quantum composer.

[misty saffron]

i know you’re shitposting but quantum computing really isn’t the next generation

it’s a separate thing

[reef patrol]

Yeah aren't Quantum Computers all about doing one specific task really, really efficient and fast? Takes forever to change the operational task every time you want to make them do something else.

[reef patrol]

Ohno

[marsh glade]

Laaame I want fancy colors

[reef patrol]

Time to bug Eric about Nitro 😛

[marsh glade]

I have Nitro though

[reef patrol]

Guess it's a rolling release.

[marsh glade]

[pale sigil]

You only just got it?

[pale sigil]

I've been sub since day 1

Just wish it didn't lose the progress because of a two month gap

The nobs

[reef patrol]

I don't have it at all - Don't have nitro rn. Never knew this was a feature.

[wheat plume]

Doe Rhythmbox have a QT interface now?!

its following my Plasma Color scheme and Window Tint

[pale sigil]

Looks shit

Just use Spotify

[wheat plume]

Rhythmbox: Local Music player
Spotify: Streaming music player

See the problem here?

[ashen spindle]

you can use spotify to play local files

[pale sigil]

Yes, you store local files.

[wheat plume]

I know but it sucks

[final flame]

^

[crimson wigeon]

That's very much GTK design right there

[fossil orchid]

it does not worth it

[final flame]

Personally I use musicbee too bad there isn't a Linux version

[pale sigil]

I wanna invest in a super strong WiFi network so I can stream without 0 issues stuff like air link and moonlight

Moonlight seems fine at 150mb/s but it can be iffy at times

[reef patrol]

https://tenor.com/view/hainbach-test-equipment-cables-lab-testing-gif-22336423

[wheat plume]

it cant be.....Other GTK apps on my laptop do not follow the Plasma desktor accent color or window tint I have applied

but Rhythmbox is.

and idk why or how

[ashen spindle]

without 0 issues
hmmm

[wheat plume]

LOL

[ashen spindle]

anyway, unlikely since just some packet loss and be really bad and happen even on solid connections

[wheat plume]

thats why Game Cloud Streaming is bad on really good connections, cause as soon as a packet is lost, the streaming service is like "oh, time to drop the quality and increase compression"

[marsh glade]

Pleasant why wouldn't you just wire it? 😂

[ashen spindle]

maybe when wifi 7 with all optinal stuff is solid that could work

or maybe another wifi generation

[astral haven]

wifi 6e is already good enough on the 6ghz channels

[marsh glade]

Get some pet sharks with laser beams on their heads

[ashen spindle]

maybe, the walls I have just have too much steel for me to confident the signal is strong enough lol

not like I could really test it though, only thing I have is a quest 2 and the wiif is shit when using air link with it

[astral haven]

doesnt matter how strong the signal is as long as the noise level is low enough

lte receive power is fine down to the picowatts, wifi can survive with nanowatts

and the 6ghz spectrum isnt that noisy yet

[sharp marsh]

I wonder if wooting 60he will ever be forever in stock. If you get what i mean. No more pre orders.

Just out of stock and in stock

[ashen spindle]

yes that is the plan

[sharp marsh]

I assume the issues are that they need more factories or machines?

[ashen spindle]

they dont own either

they book manufacturing slots at companies in china

[sharp marsh]

They said something about it in a product update long ago or in a video

Ah they need more manufacturing slots then?

[ashen spindle]

its a mix, at one point the components were not in stock for them to make more, then they need to have the money to pre produce more stock than is ordered and keep up with demand

[sharp marsh]

Hmm…

Money to preproduce more stock.. to keep up with demand, but demand is always so you need money always. Wouldnt you be stuck in an endless loop cycle then?

[vapid swan]

honest question here if i have like a massive amount of desk space for my mouse and keyboard theres no point in getting a 60% right???

[sharp marsh]

There is.

[vapid swan]

whats the reason

[marsh glade]

Fullsize > 60%

[vapid swan]

THATS WHAT IM SAYING

i love numpad

[ashen spindle]

no because its not like they can't pre order anything, just if the demand spikes more than they anticipated they need to book more spots that arent open isntantly etc.

[sharp marsh]

Less space to bang your mouse on your left

[ashen spindle]

if you use a low DPI you slam your mouse into the numpad quite often and you can sit more ergonomic

[sharp marsh]

Also you can get those fancy extra key pds

[vapid swan]

i have like a meter of mouse space

[sharp marsh]

No i do too

But ergonomically you would be hitting your keypad

If you’re not then youre not using your body correctly

You’re essentially either really long armed or too high off the table or too low

[vapid swan]

hm

[sharp marsh]

It’s been a nice thing to have this wooting keyboard now that i dont hit my mousepad every damn time i flick to my left

[vapid swan]

ur sens too high i think cuz i never had the issue of hitting my keyboard

[sharp marsh]

My sense can’t be too high, this is just whats comfortable for me, but fundamentally yes my sense is high.

[ashen spindle]

lower sense is better for more accuracy and that means you need to move more

[sharp marsh]

I play valorant and apex so i like to have a good amount of low and high speed. A middle comfort

I dont like being slow

If you find comfort in low sense by all means this issue isnt present, thats normal.

Essentially, end of all answer. If your sense is high or normal amount like mine (or you just have to move your mouse a lot and you flick a lot) then a 60% keyboard is essentially the best thing to play in.

Theoretically it’d be nice that when i’m not playing videogames, i’ll swap to my regular custom 75% keyboard or whatever.

Since i dont have to worry about hitting my keyboard

[sharp marsh]

Yeah causing them to be in a cycle. You’re saying that at some point they’ll have enough spots bc of money?

[sharp marsh]

^

[vapid swan]

what if my keyboard crooked LMAO

[tribal dirge]

I only use it for work, lol. Even then I have an external numpad

[ashen spindle]

no its not a cycle, they plan to produce more than preordered, its onyl a cycle if the pre orders increase faster than they could anticipate

[astral haven]

my hand naturally rests to the left of my tkl keyboard when its centered on my seating position

[tribal dirge]

Because custom Numpads are cool!

[ashen spindle]

you just cant have 10x more than you think you need because that is a few millions you risk into production

[sharp marsh]

You dont have this problem most likely but you’ll risk your top left of the mouse hitting the keyboard. I tried it, wasnt comfortable. I even tried forcing my arm to move my keyboard more to my left and it still default to my muscle memory slowly pushing it back to the middle

[astral haven]

i really wish left side numpads were normalized

[sharp marsh]

Well lately that’s how its been no?

[tribal dirge]

I think keychron has a left Numpad kb.

[astral haven]

i know they exist i wish they were normalized

[ashen spindle]

I mean lately covid and component shortages also hit and made delays

so add that in and it delays stuff more

[tribal dirge]

Well, your only good option is keychron lmao.

[sharp marsh]

So we can estimate in the next few months they’ll have enough stock no? Or will this process continue for a long long time?

No delays, no crazy holidays

[ashen spindle]

depends on how many more people pre order than they expect xD

[sharp marsh]

Im telling you this is technically a cycle broo 😭

[astral haven]

thats how ordering works yes

[ashen spindle]

its only a cycle if suddenly another fornite boom or similar happens and makes orders explode far more than anticipated

if they have a lot of orders they can plan for making that much and spares

[sharp marsh]

I suppose. Alright i was just curious and pondering.

[sharp marsh]

They make left side macros but wont make left side keypads

It’d be scuffed at first but im sure i’ll be used to it

[astral haven]

i mean they make numpads and you can use them on the left lol i just wish they were built into the keyboards

[sharp marsh]

Start a petition

Jk they not gonna listen. Ppl like the idea of separate key pads for extra functions

[astral haven]

who would I petition?
its not the manufacturers since they dont make them because they arent popular

and regular people with keyboards dont care

[sharp marsh]

Thats why i’m gonna buy the Elgato stream deck +

[sharp marsh]

You’re right.

[tribal dirge]

I think the 60HE exploded because of osu

[ashen spindle]

no

[tribal dirge]

Also because rapid trigger is the first of its kind

[ashen spindle]

it was fortnite

[marsh glade]

Naahh

It was tech YouTubers

[tribal dirge]

That too. They definitely had an influence.

[ashen spindle]

but they came after fortniters first got it iirc?

[marsh glade]

BadSeedTech and OptimumTech giving people that final nudge of confidence and willingness to buy, and the audience reach to do it

[reef patrol]

Fortnite's Double Movement definitely didn't hurt for a long time.
osu! basically took over where Fortnite left, except now we were selling keyboards for real, not just providing a free tool for those without a board 😄

[ashen spindle]

yeah thats what I mean, the fortnite boom started it

[tribal dirge]

Rapid trigger is overpowered for osu.

[ashen spindle]

and caused the original delay due to stocks selling out

[reef patrol]

https://youtu.be/uUVfHaW6nWs?t=1034

[marsh glade]

That is very clearly a desktop

[astral haven]

its really not tbh
the skill ceiling doesnt go higher, it just makes it easier to achieve imo

[tribal dirge]

I could make a bigger one with my plasma cutter.

[marsh glade]

As evidenced by it topping a desk and not a lap

[tribal dirge]

85 inch TV as a screen

[marsh glade]

Or like, standalone furniture lol

[astral haven]

well the picture clearly shows it on a lap

[tribal dirge]

And an old computer to drive it.

I’ve made many crazy things with my machines

[reef patrol]

[wheat plume]

Ah yes, Linux from 2008 on the Wii https://youtu.be/mrdR43-sqKs

(With patches for WiFI from 2020)

[wheat plume]

Moebuntu is great xd

[astral haven]

what else are you gonna run lol

yea right

id bet theres a million risc machines running linux for every one running unix

[frozen ingot]

how the guy even find a gfx card with vga in 2023

[astral haven]

but there are a billion wiis around

oh god

imagine a supercluster of wiis

ps3 much?

kubernetes on wii

[radiant warren]

im building my first pc. is there anyone here whose a pc nerd who can tell me if my build is sht or not

[astral haven]

post the pcpartpicker and we will "help"

[wheat plume]

AKA: Get into a massive argument over what parts are better or not

[final flame]

Help by swapping out most of the parts we don't like aesthetically or don't like the brand of

Count me in

[astral haven]

That's why I say "help"
Not help

[final flame]

[crisp granite]

nothin but noctua

and of course, the cheapest, shittiest case
fire hazard PSU

[radiant warren]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/vyg6W4

[final flame]

Personally I'm into silverstone

[radiant warren]

the case is like 105

[nimble nymph]

rgb powersupply the way to go fr

[final flame]

You'll need to update the bios are you comfortable with that, you'd have to email amd to get a CPU to update it

[astral haven]

What parts do you already have?

[reef patrol]

Not much too it, since the Motherboard has USB flash without CPU.

[final flame]

Ah didn't see that

[reef patrol]

Besides if they're building a computer, NOT having that would make this an impossible build if the motherboard doesn't come preflashed 😄

[final flame]

The old method is contacting amd to send you a CPU just to update the bios

[astral haven]

Welcome to amd
It's pretty frequently a problem

[final flame]

Personally I wouldn't use Corsair memory but that's just me

[reef patrol]

That's uh... that's just a "new chipset, old mobo" thing, champ. Intel and AMD are equally affected.

[final flame]

Amd just has it more often because of the chipset cross compatibility

[reef patrol]

How DARE they be inclusive 😄

[astral haven]

At least in the ddr4 gen it was a big problem because several times amd released motherboards before their CPU launches without the new CPU support

[final flame]

Mfw z5690 comes out

[reef patrol]

See previous point.

[astral haven]

That statement was refuting your previous point...

[reef patrol]

• sigh *

[crisp granite]

your mother

[empty wren]

Is our lover

[final flame]

Undercover

[radiant warren]

non. i was gonna order it all today

[astral haven]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/zDnfTn
Can this fit the budget?
You can always buy more ram later and samsung overcharges for their ssds

[ashen spindle]

if the non X is cheaper could look at that too

[astral haven]

That too
Actually does the x come with a cooler?

[ashen spindle]

it should yea

[astral haven]

Ye so either way
The 3060 will get you more perf gain vs even dropping down to a 5600g

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/XTjzVw
ye also if you have an nvme ssd, getting big ram is less important

also dang besides the gpu and psu, prices have basically come back to normal

[radiant warren]

y does a nvme ssd affect the ram and wtf happened how did u fit a 3060 in there and keep it at 900

[astral haven]

less ram

and the faster your ssd, the less capacity of ram you need

[radiant warren]

did cutting the ram in half decrease it that much

[astral haven]

i changed the ssd too

[radiant warren]

ah

[astral haven]

and the cpu too in the second one

[radiant warren]

so 5600x isnt worth?

[astral haven]

5600x and 2060 gets wrecked by 5600 and 3060

[radiant warren]

i see

[astral haven]

if you can do 5600x and 3060 then thats good

[radiant warren]

is the price increase recognizable

in the perfomance

[astral haven]

the performance you wont notice, the price is different yes

[radiant warren]

thx ill get this instead

also do u know if its possible to duel pc setup with a laptop and desktop?

[astral haven]

ive done it before

[radiant warren]

my laptop has a i7 so i wanted to use it for the streaming half

[astral haven]

🤷 the 3060 will probably do a better job and you probably wouldnt notice the performance difference

[radiant warren]

so it perfomance diff wouldnt be noticable if i gamed and streamed from the pc im building rn?

vs doing the duel pc thing

[astral haven]

it depends on how many effects you have on the stream, but a normal stream it wont matter

[radiant warren]

does effects mean overlays/sources or do u mean like a streamdeck?

[astral haven]

i mean sources + overlays

and if you are doing any special effects like greenscreen

[radiant warren]

just ordered it thx for the help

[astral haven]

glhf!

[astral haven]

the wd is faster and has a better warranty

its more than an entire sata ssd faster lel

its also tlc not qlc

at least as far as i can tell the p41 plus is qlc

yea its en entire gig per second faster on both read and write lmao

and I dont want to perform tech support for them

what advantage is that to a normal person tho

when is bridging ever better than just spending the same amount on a switch lel

i dunno about you but i dont like my internet dropping when i reboot my pc

if its sufficiently unghetto enough to be buying a case, they can buy a switch

i only recommend buying dual nic boards to 1 friend because every single ethernet controller he uses breaks within 2 years

[wheat plume]

The Surface tablets are so nice looking <3

[astral haven]

agreed

[wheat plume]

but way too expensive ;-;

[astral haven]

just have your work pay for it lel

[wheat plume]

my work pays me under minimum wage

10 hours a week

.-.

[astral haven]

i mean thats specifically not legal

[wheat plume]

and he got me to add 2 ad services to the website because he cant figure out that you need to have visitors to the site to get ad revenue

im fine for now... living at home :/

the hunt for a better job isnt going well

got to pay it back later on

with interest

[astral haven]

uh
what country do you live in lmao

[wheat plume]

they just take it out as taxes from salary when you get a job

in addition to normal taxes

no idea

[astral haven]

seriously what country?

[wheat plume]

Ireland

[astral haven]

really?

[wheat plume]

yes?

[astral haven]

they always seemed progressive relative to the uk to me

[wheat plume]

in some ways yes

not food stamps

idek if we have those here

we have a thing called the dole... idk how its spelled but you get money each week

but you got to meet a lot of requirements yet some how my friend got it while in college

[radiant warren]

had to pay back food stamps when they gave me extra

sht was 600

[wheat plume]

BRUH WTF
US Site: Starts at $999

Irish site: Starts at 1,390 Euro

Why does wifi cost extra??? ITS A DAMN TABLET

[astral haven]

lte usually?

[reef patrol]

Usually the other way around - Simcard is pricier.

[astral haven]

^

[wheat plume]

What is Microsoft SQ3?

[astral haven]

garbage qualcomm arm chip

[astral haven]

battery life is insane tho

[wheat plume]

Oh...

there is no LTE version

oh wait, nvm there is

cant get the SQ3 version with wifi...LTE only

[astral haven]

yea

the lte is built in on it

[wheat plume]

1,390 Euro....

bruh

for USA its 1,000 dollars

[astral haven]

welcome to vat

its 1k pre tax in the us

[wheat plume]

how much would tax be?

roughly

[astral haven]

probably end up under 1.1k 😛

but thats import taxes for you

[wheat plume]

.-.

bruh

They are expensive AF in US but anywhere else they are even more expensive

[astral haven]

yea and for me my credit card is enough to cancel out the taxes lol

[empty wren]

This depends on item to item in cases vat in some cases could become shipping and raw good tax for US

[ashen spindle]

vat is usually lower in the states but that isnt really comparable since other taxes and stuff exist

[wheat plume]

300 for the Keyboard + Pen

[astral haven]

yea when we order a surface, it ends up being a 3500 combo

tho that includes monitor and docking station too

[empty wren]

Does that include surface mouse

[astral haven]

no

[wheat plume]

no

[astral haven]

they are actually microsoft mouse and keyboard bundles that we order but they are rather cheap

[wheat plume]

Surface Pro 9 + 12th Gen Core i7 + 16GB Ram + 512GB Storage + Signature Keyboard, Slim Pen 2 = 2,528

[astral haven]

fortunately tho you can just get as small storage as you can and upgrade it

[empty wren]

Also why a surfacd

Why not literally anything else

[wheat plume]

is that easy? these tablets dont seem easy to take apart

[astral haven]

best tablets made

[wheat plume]

^

best tablets

[astral haven]

its literally just a paperclip

[wheat plume]

Except the OS

The OS is manky

[empty wren]

They are but at the price could get a very nice laptop

[astral haven]

actually windows on surface is great

[wheat plume]

8.1 on Surface would be great

touchscreen on 11 is shit

[empty wren]

[astral haven]

excuse me what

[empty wren]

8.1 is good but it is outdated

[wheat plume]

I really liked 8.1 on a touchscreen , the multitasking gestures were so fluid

[empty wren]

8.1 was designed for tablets first

[wheat plume]

swiping from the left to switch app, or swipe from left and hold to see them all

[astral haven]

the gestures are still there on 10

[empty wren]

Hence why the start menu was tiles

[wheat plume]

yeah, with slow and janky animations that feel lightyears backwards from 8.1

[astral haven]

uh

disagree

[empty wren]

How about Linux for tablet?

[astral haven]

they feel fine on my surface pro 4 lmao

[astral haven]

yeowch

[wheat plume]

Id run Linux on the Surface for sure

[astral haven]

definetly dont buy a surface then lel

[wheat plume]

Gnome desktop on touchscreen is amazing

[astral haven]

literally the only reason to go surface is if you want the best windows experience

[empty wren]

If only it had thunderbolt

[astral haven]

you are better off going dell hp or lenovo if you just want a tablet

[empty wren]

Which they continue to refuse

[astral haven]

current and last gen of surface has it

[empty wren]

Oh nice

They added it finally

[astral haven]

yes

[wheat plume]

no touchscreen

[astral haven]

and they still support the great magnetic charging

[empty wren]

Get air screen device

[wheat plume]

get what?

[empty wren]

Then any laptop is touch

[wheat plume]

OOOOOO THERE IS A SAPPHIRE COLOR FOR THE SURFACE

[astral haven]

also the apple silicon devices dont have upgradeable storage

[wheat plume]

ITS SO PRETTY

[empty wren]

That

[astral haven]

lol yes?

[empty wren]

On the surface pretty sure it is soldered

So yes

[astral haven]

no

[empty wren]

100%

[wheat plume]

this laptop was great value....
16GB ram
1TB SSD

it was 630 euro :D

[astral haven]

its m.2

[empty wren]

Oh

Okay then

[wheat plume]

and yes, I made my Neofetch mega cursed

[astral haven]

also the old surfaces had microsd card slots but the new ones i dont think they do any more

[empty wren]

But the new ones have m.2?

[astral haven]

yes

[empty wren]

Alright not a bad tradeoff

[astral haven]

but imagine if it also had msd

[empty wren]

Just annoying to swap

[astral haven]

actually lemme see if ive got a sp9 in the office somewhere

[wheat plume]

The Bezels are very not matched

[empty wren]

Okay and

It is tablet

[wheat plume]

DISCORD FUCK YOU

THATS NOT EXPLICIT

[empty wren]

[wheat plume]

ITS TWO HANDS

[empty wren]

And I here I did send stuff that was before and went through no problem

[wheat plume]

here

finally

the top and bottom are bigger than the side bezels, very strange

[astral haven]

yea i really dont get the whole tablets without the ability to hold them trend

[empty wren]

Camera and magnets rhen

[astral haven]

nah

[empty wren]

Sorry for the ping

[astral haven]

its just for being able to hold it

[empty wren]

Is it

[wheat plume]

magnets?

[empty wren]

Because the bottom is bigger

[astral haven]

the keyboard attaches with magnets

[empty wren]

And the keyboard usually need some area

[wheat plume]

you hold it by the thinner sides though

[astral haven]

no you dont

[astral haven]

you hold it by the stand when its horizontal

[wheat plume]

he holding it wrong?

[empty wren]

Well whatever let us say it has two purposes then

[wheat plume]

wait is this OLED?

[empty wren]

🤷‍♂️

[astral haven]

no hes gripping it by holding onto the kickstand

and no its not oled

120hz ltpo lcd

[empty wren]

Surface screens are nice anyways

Even without that

Wacom driver

[wheat plume]

ooo its 120Hz though

[astral haven]

yep

defaults to 60 to save battery

[wheat plume]

they dont mention if its OLED or LCD so I assume its LCD

[astral haven]

...

[wheat plume]

if they dont say, then assume the worst LOL

[empty wren]

Lcd aint the worst

[wheat plume]

LTPO?

[astral haven]

low power

[empty wren]

Adaptive refresh rate

[astral haven]

no

[empty wren]

Usually very low

[wheat plume]

ooohhhh

[astral haven]

panel self refresh doesnt mean adaptive refresh rate

[empty wren]

Okay....

[wheat plume]

I wonder what happened to the JingPad

the Linux powered tablet from last year

that had really nice hardware too

the other Linux tablets have really shit hardware ;-; this was the only decent one

[empty wren]

Just get framework

It good

No more bad hardware

Upgrade

When you want

[wheat plume]

https://youtu.be/q7JmN8_URGY

11 Windows certificates and he stills really hates this OS

LOL

[empty wren]

Apple sheep or Linux nerd?

[wheat plume]

Not Apple sheep

[empty wren]

I see

[wheat plume]

he hates Apple slightly more

[empty wren]

Lol slightly

[wheat plume]

barely slightly more

but hed still rather use macOS than Windows

[empty wren]

Lol

Macos feels so backwards

Have to learn everything

[wheat plume]

its window management is really shit

worse than Windows...

and Windows should be the best at it... ITS LITERALLY THE OS NAME

but its not

[astral haven]

i disagree but ok

[wheat plume]

Linux can do far FAR better window management

[astral haven]

can

[wheat plume]

yeah

[astral haven]

with extra software

[wheat plume]

literally no

[astral haven]

but windows has better extra software

[wheat plume]

you can make rules for all windows, specific windows, specific apps that control anything you want about how the window is presented

[astral haven]

wat

[wheat plume]

I have one for Discord to always make it the same size and location on the screen when it opens and it also forces the dark titlebar color scheme even if im in light theme on every other app

I can make the titlebar go away if I want to, and move the window controls to the panel like the old Unity desktop used to do when an app is maximised

I can add effects to open and close animations like them burning when you close them or whatever

easy

Linux is unmatched with what you can do with application windows

[ashen spindle]

ngl I would call that bloatware if windows has that

[astral haven]

at work all my applications open to where i need them to be

[wheat plume]

yeah, can do that here too built in

[astral haven]

yes

i mean technically its stock here but its an nvidia driver feature not made by microsoft

[wheat plume]

You can make it a microsoft feature with PowerToys

but thats extra software

[astral haven]

this is using the nvidia rtx desktop manager which is part of the "quadro" drivers

besides you wouldnt need that if it was easier to snap windows around lol

microsofts new win 11 snapping of windows is fantastic

[wheat plume]

oh, that bar that appears at the top of the screen whenever you move shit around?

[astral haven]

yee

dang our company branding is now everywhere on these new computers to the point that i cant even send pics any more without doxing myself

[wheat plume]

Youtube need to fix their website on smaller window sizes

cant see the channel name anymore

not even that small of a window

ofc yyou see the entire name here, wtf

oh, cause I was subbed to the other channel so there is more on that line LOL

[ashen spindle]

so on a channel you are subbed to it shows less, seems fine with me?

[wheat plume]

more

[ashen spindle]

eh yea, meant it hides the name

which I think is no big deal since you should know the channel if you are subbed to it

[wheat plume]

I hate that the Save option is now in a drop down menu

Yeah....

[crimson wigeon]

And when they have something insane that makes people want to use Bing, they take it away..

[wheat plume]

oh. this is useful....I dont use Flatpak though if I can just install a package nativly
but on Steam Deck this would be great

Too bad we have no clue when Plasma 5.27 will come to Deck

Hmmmm.... wtf this mean?

[crimson wigeon]

Exactly what it says

Only relevant if a Wayland enjoyer

[wheat plume]

Global shortcuts for x11 apps?

[crimson wigeon]

Yes

[wheat plume]

Aha

Im on Wayland on my laptop but idk if YouTube is using x11 or not
But only the pause toggle shortcut works on it

The skip and previous shortcuts don't

They could have easily added media keys to this keyboard .-.

[astral haven]

i think this is old news but this isnt the same as the thing ian leaked!
i wonder what that cpu ian leaked will be productized as?

(this is spr xeon w)

[ashen spindle]

you mean the one thing he tweeted specs about a while ago?

[astral haven]

no the one he took a picture of the die

[ashen spindle]

the rpl xcc thing that was mislabled?

[astral haven]

https://www.tomshardware.com/news/intels-unannounced-34-core-raptor-lake-cpus-displayed-on-wafer

[ashen spindle]

yea

[astral haven]

it wasnt mislabeled

[ashen spindle]

well that depends on who at intel you ask xD

[astral haven]

no, someone just accidentally picked up rpls-34c when they meant to pick up rpl-24c or whatever

[ashen spindle]

could be I just remember it was on the exhibition and the label didnt match or was weird and thats how it got noticed

[astral haven]

the label matches the die
the person thought it was a client cpu and rpl is a client name

the only thing is there is no 34 core raptor lake cpu announced or released

yup

[astral haven]

and these spr xeon ws have the exact same looking cores, but the largest die is pictured here and isnt as big as the rpl die

[ashen spindle]

it could be some pipecleaner die that is not exactly like a product they are making in the end

[frozen ingot]

microsoft can somehow piss and shit on windows however they want and still end up with a better OS for the mainstream than linux

[wheat plume]

better

Nah

[astral haven]

yes

[frozen ingot]

the proof is in the pudding

[wheat plume]

I find windows maddening to use :/
Can't do shit to customize it without dodgy third party software

[frozen ingot]

linux can't even convince the vast majority to switch even though its free

[wheat plume]

Cause the big software doesn't work on it because the devs don't wanna support it

[ashen spindle]

most people use windows to use other software not to tinker with the os itself and customize it

[frozen ingot]

yeah

[astral haven]

literally everything linux is dodgy third party software lmao

[wheat plume]

It's a loop

Users won't switch without the software
Software won't switch without the users
.-.

[frozen ingot]

I'd happily switch if I could keep using my existing software and hardware without major readjustment headaches

[wheat plume]

open source
Dodgy

??
If you paranoid
Check the code

Or see if others have checked the code

[ashen spindle]

because every person can read code and knows if its malicous

[frozen ingot]

tell that to your grandma who just wants to find recipes online

[astral haven]

this

[wheat plume]

online
That's dodgy on any OS

[astral haven]

its equally dodgy

[wheat plume]

Moreso on windows cause viruses can auto download and run on windows

[astral haven]

the difference is that for linux, literally core components of your os are built that way

[wheat plume]

What?

[astral haven]

you say that as if it isnt possible for linux

[wheat plume]

It is possible...but they won't be able to automatically get admin perms

[astral haven]

same story on windows

[frozen ingot]

your windows installation won't go and download and run viruses on its own

clumsy user input is always the first step

[astral haven]

and windows has blocks in place to prevent it from doing damage

[wheat plume]

I've seen a windows virus get downloaded and triggered just by visiting a website

No input needed

[frozen ingot]

what, like windows 98?

[astral haven]

^

[wheat plume]

10

[frozen ingot]

yeah no

[wheat plume]

Yeah yes

[astral haven]

in what iexplore.exe?

[wheat plume]

Chrome I think

[astral haven]

both edge and chrome have measures to prevent it

and edge's measures are significantly more effective

[wheat plume]

Maybe they do now
But not back when I saw this demo

[astral haven]

firefox is about 93% at blocking malware, chrome is 95% and edge is 100%

[wheat plume]

Ubuntu ....
Amazing font rendering

[wheat plume]

.....
I refuse to believe Firefox is less secure than Chrome

Wtf

[astral haven]

unless you have a 1080p or 1440p screen lel

[frozen ingot]

what was it

linus tech tips that did the "linux challenge" and ended up mistakenly uninstalling his graphical user interface

new user friendly

[astral haven]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MAu2KYrNgY0

edge was the only browser to block all of the links

[wheat plume]

That was a legit popOS problem :/
They had the graphical server marked as a hard dependency for steam

[frozen ingot]

gj edge

[astral haven]

chrome and firefox allowed the same amount through, however chrome would prompt as suspicious for some that firefox just let through

[frozen ingot]

which leads us back to linux not being a good user experience for most novice to intermediate users

[astral haven]

thats what they tested

[frozen ingot]

"oh you picked the wrong distro out of the hundreds available barely documented ones on the internet? tough shit I suppose"

[wheat plume]

I still think that installing software is easier on Linux
You just open the app center and hit install and give it your password

[astral haven]

does operagx use a non google adblocking database

[astral haven]

same on windows lel

[wheat plume]

No...unless you somehow manage to only use store apps

[astral haven]

except on windows there are 10 times as many apps

[astral haven]

windows has 10 store apps for every linux app in a linux store

[frozen ingot]

I've used the windows store a total number of one time

and I've used windows since 3.11 was mainstream

[wheat plume]

Firefox isn't on the store

Chrome isn't on the store
Nor steam

[frozen ingot]

a fucking horrible OS for the record

[wheat plume]

Just because there are a lot of apps doesn't mean the ones people want are there

[astral haven]

steam chrome and firefox are 1 click installs from their websites

[wheat plume]

They aren't....

[frozen ingot]

also most modern linux distros borrows a fuckton of their GUI from win95 and its deratives

[astral haven]

and firefox is on the store

[wheat plume]

You download an installed
Navigate to the downloads folder
Double click the installer
It makes a new windows
You got to click next
Make sure to untick any boxes that may try to install other software too
Click next a few times
Then done

Not one click from website

[astral haven]

thats wrong
in edge it is 1 click to download chrome

[frozen ingot]

macOS is so simplistic it becomes complicated and confusing coming from any other platform

"what do you mean just drag and drop the icon to install"

where's the files

[astral haven]

now setting it as default?
different story, but most linux distros also have that problem

[frozen ingot]

that wasn't a thing when I used it

[astral haven]

and then it prompts you 10 times for different accessibility settings that are nescessary for it to run

[frozen ingot]

but then again I pretty much stopped using a mac on the daily since 2015

[astral haven]

i have to use mac at work

[wheat plume]

Linux:

1. Open Chrome
2. popup appears "Want to set Chrome as default browser?
3. click ok

Easy

[astral haven]

no

[frozen ingot]

only apple product I still really use are my iphone

and an aging ipad

[wheat plume]

Literally yes

[astral haven]

on whatever distro you are currently using maybe

[wheat plume]

I use chrome on Linux a lot

And Firefox

[astral haven]

not on linux in general

[wheat plume]

Yes

Yes it does

Browsers always ask to be default if they detect that they aren't

It's normal for any OS for them to do that

[astral haven]

well firefox on windows also does that

as does chrome

[wheat plume]

Every browser on every OS does that

Yes

What's your point?

[astral haven]

but that wasnt true on my steam deck

and it wasnt true last time i used ubuntu (tho tbf its been a while)

[wheat plume]

Firefox isn't installed by default on deck
Just a shortcut to install it via discover placed on the taskbar

[astral haven]

anyways thats not actually that big a problem, people can figure that out

i feel bad for you

we had to go and buy an intel silicon mac to replace our apple silicon one because an apple provided program wouldnt work

[wheat plume]

I've never not had a browser ask to set it to default if it wasn't the default browser when I launched it on Windows or Linux
It's ALWAYS happened

[ashen spindle]

navigate to download what? just single click on the file it shows in your download bar

[wheat plume]

And I've used many Linux distros

[wheat plume]

Then proceed with all the following steps

[astral haven]

which are just wait for chrome

[wheat plume]

Steam requires more user input than Chrome

Or Firefox

[astral haven]

steam does

[wheat plume]

Most apps do

[ashen spindle]

either you click and select the install settings or you do it as arguments in console line on linux, really a wash and basically the same

[astral haven]

oh yea thats another linux problem

[wheat plume]

They ask if you wanna make shortcuts
And install other software

[astral haven]

installing apps on specific drives

[wheat plume]

?

What

Oh
The issue that Linux doesn't automatically mount additional drives?
Yes
That's a problem ;_;

[crimson wigeon]

No the fact that package managers don't make it easy to install to other drives

[frozen ingot]

got a macbook pro in 2010 which I used a lot for audio work, also had a bunch of iphones and a few ipads but that about covers all my apple ownership and usage

used windows for most of my life

[wheat plume]

What kind of situation would you need to install an app to another drive?

[frozen ingot]

and a little bit of linux but was long ago now

[crimson wigeon]

Big chonk of an app won't fit on your slim /, what now

[ashen spindle]

are you installing everything on your main drive?

[wheat plume]

Yes....
Except games

Steam just loads games from my other drive

[ashen spindle]

oh god

[wheat plume]

Cause I made a folder on that drive a steam library

Same for every other launcher

[astral haven]

ew

[frozen ingot]

I'd rather install desktop applications on a different drive than games

[astral haven]

so imagine you have idk a gigantic software suite that you dont use often that also happens to work just fine on a hard drive

[wheat plume]

I legit have a drive just for games
No apps installed on it

[astral haven]

i have 5 lel

[wheat plume]

Ooff

I have 4 drives in total
But one is just for games

[astral haven]

there are some software suites that are 200+GB, and dont need that fast storage

[ashen spindle]

everything on C drive just means I cant just replace that or wipe OS without having to set up everything again

[wheat plume]

Adobe?

[astral haven]

adobe is like 500gb or something crazy at this point

[wheat plume]

... Bruh

[astral haven]

tho i was more thinking eda software

[wheat plume]

I have just 256gb for the drive windows is installed on
But just slightly less than half of that is still empty

Meanwhile on my laptop
I have a 1tb SSD and Linux clean install takes just 5gb ....

[astral haven]

CC suite is huge

[astral haven]

linux on my raspberry pi alone is more than 5gb lel

[frozen ingot]

and most of the icons look almost the same

great job there coming from a company specializing in software for graphical design and editing

[wheat plume]

I'm sure there is no use case who would need all that installed at once though???

[wheat plume]

Strange
Fedora uses roughly 5-6gb

[final flame]

these are the only ones I use

[astral haven]

sure which is why i was not actually thinking of adobe as an example, i was more thinking of eda software

[wheat plume]

Oh

[astral haven]

another big one is coding suites

[wheat plume]

Visual Studio can get pretty damn massive lol

And Unity

[astral haven]

and unreal

[wheat plume]

But Unity let's you install projects to other drives if you wanna ....so that's not much of an issue

[astral haven]

and imagine if you have to have multiple versions of unity and unreal for different builds lel

[wheat plume]

I had only the Unity Hub installed on C: and the Engine and Projects folders are on another drive

Cause that drive was a portable HDD so I could have my projects to swap between my computer and college computers during classes

[ashen spindle]

so why not put the hub on the HDD as well then

[astral haven]

still have the problem of having to reinstall all your programs when your ssd dies or whatever

[wheat plume]

Cause the college already had the Hub installed on the computers

[astral haven]

again not a problem for gamerz but for end users?

business users?

[ashen spindle]

but then you still had to manually add the projects to the hub there, so why not keep it on the hdd so it has the path to the projects when you open the hub

either works but just seems easier to me

[astral haven]

really the problem is office pcs
the only linux distro ready for IT managed pcs is chromeos

[wheat plume]

Does winget support adding multiple packages on the same command? Or must it be one package at a time?

[astral haven]

can always pipe lel

afaik tho 1 winget = 1 install

[wheat plume]

Rip

I still hope winget gets better over time

It's really awesome to have a centralized package manager on windows

[astral haven]

its also really cool that it can install store apps

we use that feature for our automation of installing new computers

[wheat plume]

O.o
I could use it to install Minecraft Bedrock?

[astral haven]

dont see why not

[wheat plume]

O...

[ashen spindle]

is there a way to see at ram bandwidth utilization or something to try and discern if a game would benefit more from tighter ram timings or only faster cores?

trying to be lazy and not manually try both lol

[astral haven]

amd reports bandwidth usage in hwinfo, and intel has a tool as part of their debugging suite that i forget the name of

[ashen spindle]

I dont think I see it in hwinfo

maybe I had it hidden I'll see again

oh I just overlooked it

[astral haven]

[ashen spindle]

I doubt it is the ram since I just want to increase the drops when many players are around and that's probably just pure cpu limitation but doesnt hurt to check

[vagrant pagoda]

you just change settings and bench

thats the only wayn to know

[ashen spindle]

well, can't really bench online setting

could increase the bench result but not be relevant when online

[frozen ingot]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EGIwcPA1_34

oh I member this

[sharp badger]

https://www.asrock.com/mb/Intel/W790 WS/index.asp Those 3 fans at the top will probably be annoying

[vagrant pagoda]

what fans?

oh they where hiding

i looked in the gallery

no idea why you would get that over the saGE

the sage is def the best layed out board

all the power in one spot

[sharp badger]

Yeah

[vagrant pagoda]

no skiiped first pcie slot

triple m.2 + wifi spot

plus you know dual psu support

[sharp badger]

Yeah, loads of features on that Sage

[wheat plume]

New virus trick going around
Adding a fake icon and hiding .exe files using the rtlo character in the file name

[ashen spindle]

new?

that is very old lol

[wheat plume]

Is it???

Oh boi

[reef patrol]

Are we back in the 90s?

[wheat plume]

Oof

[ashen spindle]

yes that is as old as its possible, just most scams are not smart enough to do more than change the image or so

[fair gull]

new exploit going around abusing word and excel macros

[tribal dirge]

I have a boring server motherboard that’s double the size of that

The wankle engine?

Right

They have really crap efficiency though.

When compared to a typical cylinder engine.

This is with my experiences with Wankel engines

Also the sealing gaskets wear out very quickly.

And everything has to be machined super precisely, or else it wouldn’t make a good deal.

Layman’s terms lol.

Also the way it’s designed to burn the fuel causes extreme temperature differences between the intake half and exhaust half of the engine, which can cause internal stress within the metal crystalline structure.

And eventually given enough time, will cause it to fail.

Lol true

My muscle memory is getting the best of me

[pale sigil]

I'm here

Keep hitting reply

[tribal dirge]

Every metal can experience stress when hit with a major thermal difference throughout its structure.

And that includes aluminum.

I’ve had aluminum bend and deform on me when I try to weld sheets together.

[pale sigil]

The hell

The iPad air doesn't have face Id?

Nor 120hz?

[tribal dirge]

Touch ID lol

[tribal dirge]

It’s the air, what do you expect

[pale sigil]

Considering it doesn't cost much less than the pro at 256gb idk

Why bother with an M1 then

Idk why but I always assumed it was way better than it was

[tribal dirge]

One less chip to manufacture.

Saves on cost

Make more of what you have than make a new thing

[pale sigil]

Huh tbf though it's still a powerful mofo

I'm to bias towards iPads

[tribal dirge]

No, it’s not you, iPads are just better.

[pale sigil]

It's making it difficult to move away from them because I can't justify £1200 😭

[pale sigil]

Ye I know

I use a pro first gen atm

Only reason I'm replacing it is because input ghosting

[tribal dirge]

Ah.

[pale sigil]

But I can't justify the pro 12.9"

And I can't justify the pro 11 because I'm so used to a bigger size screen and also differences is night and day

I've always hated android tablets and still kinda do but the Lenovo Tab 12 Pro is very appealing as it checks all boxes

• Decently priced
• 12.6" (Number 1 criteria)
• Snapdragon 860
• Desktop mode similar but not as good as stage view
• 2K AMOLED HDR10 doby vision 120hz
• Android 13
• Comes with the pencil which is kinda cool but not remotely as good as the apple pencil

And tbh

Other than the M1 chip it's a pretty damn good competitor to the air

Now I could go second hand but I'm kinda wanting to use my £450 voucher for Amazon 😅

Tbh idk why I just don't get it and try Vs overthink it but here I am

[vagrant pagoda]

Yo update your Ryzen master.

https://www.tomshardware.com/news/amds-ryzen-master-has-a-high-severity-vulnerability-patch-available

[pale sigil]

Never used it in the first place

[wheat plume]

A featured Extensions on the GOOGLE Web Store is to add back a feature that GOOGLE removed

Ironic AF