🔌│tech

[astral haven]

im talking about just the methane used
does the carbon capture itself actually net carbon negative?
because most cc processes are actually net positive since they require that more of the original fossil fuels get used

[fickle ore]

Geotherm is pog

[astral haven]

most of the time you are better off just saving the money and investing in solar heating

[fickle ore]

I'm not sure. They either get the energy from burning said waste, or they get it from hydro/wind or fission, because in Finland we don't burn much fossils.

[astral haven]

either through liquid cooled pv or just direct solar wate heating

[fickle ore]

https://www.fingrid.fi/en/electricity-market/power-system/

you can see % grouypedd by energy style

[astral haven]

i really dont know the math on burning actual waste
and i also cant speak finnish
so that may make sense
but thats also not what is generally meant by carbon capture
its generally referring to fossil fuel reclamation or whatever

[fickle ore]

Put it on english check now 😄 scroll down for sector

[astral haven]

power reserve 0
is that gridscale storage?

or is it just not being used right now

and what the heck is coproduction

[fickle ore]

Power reserve is our reserve power, we only use it when the consumption exceeds usage greatly and usually when it's winter and -30 c etc

then they use whatever they can, reserve plants got fossil fuels

[astral haven]

https://www.caiso.com/TodaysOutlook/Pages/default.aspx

oh peaker plants

currently our batteries are charging at 300megawatts

[fickle ore]

Hmm wish I could see grouped by type

[astral haven]

https://www.caiso.com/TodaysOutlook/Pages/supply.html
tab 2

tab 3 is emissions

[fickle ore]

Renewables is what mostly?

oh it says

nvm

[astral haven]

80% solar

ye

[fickle ore]

Yea nice, u guys got the boon of having sun

[astral haven]

https://www.caiso.com/TodaysOutlook/Pages/supply.html#section-batteries-trend
you can even see the battery usage

[fickle ore]

Looking good

[astral haven]

yall have just about as much sun as cali, its just alooot harder to use lel

would be gainful employment for millions to brush snow off of solar panels lel

[fickle ore]

Hehe, if only..!

[astral haven]

oh wait finland is smaller than california???

[fickle ore]

Prob lol

[reef patrol]

About that

[astral haven]

wrong coast but same idea

[fickle ore]

Stupid solar panels need sweepers tbh

[reef patrol]

I was pointing out that they're roughly the same size...

[astral haven]

338k km2 vs 423k km2

[fickle ore]

Ha, show us your denmark. That's like 10 km^2

[astral haven]

finland vs california

40k km2

[reef patrol]

Pancake nation. It's 90% beach and 10% flat farmland 😄

[fickle ore]

I'm surprised cali is so little nuclear and so much solar

I guess everyone got their roofs installed with solars

that's cool ngl

[astral haven]

cali has a gigantic faultline running straight through the center of it

[fickle ore]

Oh yeah sinkijng into the seas

[astral haven]

Im pretty sure that 100% of our nuclear plants are within 70km of a fault line

the second to last one we shut down, but the last one is i think within a mile of a minor fault line off of the pacific rim

[fickle ore]

damn

[astral haven]

by this i meant former plants but point stands

[fickle ore]

Also why is solar in renewables smh

[astral haven]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diablo_Canyon_earthquake_vulnerability

[fickle ore]

NOT RENEWABLE

[astral haven]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shoreline_Fault

yaay

[astral haven]

in terms of the earth moon system it is renewable

[fickle ore]

I guess 😄

[astral haven]

in terms of the solar system, literally energy movement is not renewable

support cosmic microwave background radiation power generation

the whole point of everything is we need to invest in energy that will work for long enough for us to tech up to the interstellar energy generation

we have so far to go on the tech tree its not funny

but solar + storage is enough to carry us to that tier if we wanted

[fickle ore]

We have a long ways yeah. But that fusion news a while ago was good news. I'm kinda worried for oxygen supply before we even get there... Phytoplankton migrating to north and scientist estimate 90% have died. Afaik trees & plants aren't enough to produce the oxygen we need.

[astral haven]

just stop burning things

[fickle ore]

• with burning fossils we're losing oxygen slowly

[fickle ore]

Yeah, freaking germany went to coal

[astral haven]

guh

[fickle ore]

random google snip

[ashen spindle]

yes we had the last factory that made wind turbines shut down last summer...

[fickle ore]

What the hell are they doing? What about, was 'Dark' netflix show the end of your last nuclear plant?

[ashen spindle]

we had like 16 years of the same conservative part fucking everything up in tech

be it internet or energy

[astral haven]

yay

[fickle ore]

is scholz any better?

[astral haven]

well good news is lg electronics is shipping some nice whole home batteries

[fickle ore]

Im completely oblivious to germany politics 😄

[ashen spindle]

ehhh the current 3 party set up is in a weird position that is kinda stalemate

[fickle ore]

Ugh, idk. You havent got much hydro or solar ig. Also not much sea for turbines.

[ashen spindle]

well we could have a lot more wind and solar

but we have so much bureaucracy that we have places with tons of solar panels installed for 2 years or longer and they cant put them into the grid

its just a mess

[fickle ore]

Rip. PV I don't get but wind turbines can be bad

[ashen spindle]

then there is the one state that had the most brain dead rules for wind turbines so they had to be so far away you basically couldn't put up any

[fickle ore]

The noise, god I don't know how they were able to get them installed in the sea in droves here.

Plus, the amount of insects each turbine kills is a lot 😄

[ashen spindle]

until like last year the rules in bavarai were so bad that they could fall over 10 times and not be next a house

there is no sound that far away lmfao

[fickle ore]

Yeah maybe, but lots of studies of low frequency noise coming from them, being bad not only to humans but especially in seas to the fish, etc. where sound carries much further.

I'm not sure of the consensus

[ashen spindle]

look I'm not talking about reasonable regulations

it was basically so much you couldn't make it if it was in view of a house

[fickle ore]

Lmao 😄

[ashen spindle]

meanwhile they gladly removed yet another forest and city to dig for more coal

[fickle ore]

;__;

[ashen spindle]

also we lack storage

[old marlin]

could still be worse

could be france

[ashen spindle]

in the south most production excess gets sold to storage in the swiss/austria because they literally make money from storing it and selling it back to us

[fickle ore]

Could always go hydrogen for the storage eh

[fickle ore]

Lmao we do that

[old marlin]

will take a while

like 10 years prob

[ashen spindle]

oh you misunderstand

its not that we dont have the possibility for storage

its that its too expensive and too muhc paperwork

[fickle ore]

We drive all our excess energy during the summer to the biggest steel producer in EU and PAY them to take it LOL

[ashen spindle]

then there is another massive issue of powerlines

there are so many megawatts we literally waste because there are solar farms that need to be shut of when its sunny

[fickle ore]

Finland 10 year in the future O_o

[ashen spindle]

because the power lines that were supposed to be done 10 years ago havent even started building yet

so they cant even sell it to another place in excess

literally have to turn it off

[fickle ore]

Lolol

that IS sad

[old marlin]

avg germany moment

[ashen spindle]

that one example got turned off 170 times last year

[fickle ore]

that said our country is putting up new lines all the time and stealing lots of ppl's land

that kinda sucks too but idk I guess its good

[ashen spindle]

5 hectar of solar panels in this case

idk how much megawatts it is total

[fickle ore]

What a waste

[ashen spindle]

yup

that is the solar farm in the example

[fickle ore]

Should call our govt. grid company to do it for them. It took them only a year to do it on our land.

Pricks.

[ashen spindle]

would probably double the amount of paper work needed to be done then and your guys would have no clue how to fill them out correctly

[old marlin]

nah, leave it to germany to find the most expensive and longest possible solution

[fickle ore]

Time to do it yourselves 😄

[mild dome]

Man I know some renewables aren't 100% clean, but when people reject them for things like "Infrasonic maybe maybe might make hurt wildlife" I wonder if they think coal exhaust is perfume? Like Brrrroooooooo

We don't need a SUPER PERFECT alternative. We need an alternative to prevent further destruction being caused by coal and whatnot.
It's like we are being asked if I would rather have my pinkie or my whole arm amputated. Yeah I would prefer neither, but sometime you don't get a choice. But some people are insist on a perfect solution or nothing.

[old marlin]

hey, the company I work at is atm developing stuff for hydrogen storage

[ashen spindle]

hps?

[old marlin]

nope

is about coating hydrogen tanks

making them a lot cheaper

[ashen spindle]

ah

my biggest issue with it is still efficency

that needs to go a lot higher

[mild dome]

Really I just think these guys are in Coal's payroll. "No sorry folks, the Fossil Fu- I mean the safety commission said the new wind farm solution kills too many skydivers. So we'll stick with the coal power plant that throws so much ash into the air that all life in 50km radius is dead ::)"

[old marlin]

yep, same

• price the fuel cell

[mild dome]

What about other storage solutions like a big fukin wheel that spins

[fickle ore]

that is cool

[ashen spindle]

price is easier to get down by laws and regulations though lol

[fickle ore]

anything hydro is pog

[ashen spindle]

cant just make a law that makes it more efficent

[old marlin]

not scalable enough

[mild dome]

I wonder if Vanadium batteries will be thing. I recall there was some research into those because you could scale them up a lot

[astral haven]

the best storage solution is pumped hydro

it requires a decent bit of land, but it can scale quite significantly anywhere that there are any hills

[old marlin]

also can't be done anywhere

[ashen spindle]

well different needs, pumped hydro is great for large savings, hyrdogen is much better for local storage in a house

[astral haven]

hydrogen is awful for storage

hydrogen is for moving energy mostly

[old marlin]

by now they at least got rid of parasitic loss for hydrogen

so it is mostly just inefficiency

[ashen spindle]

what else is there, cant really use lithium batteries if you want to save enough generated power from the summer to last the winter

[astral haven]

you cant hold enough hydrogen either

you would need to bring the hydrogen in somehow

[ashen spindle]

for storing it for the night, sure battery is enough

I mean there are systems that do it already

[astral haven]

house scale 6 month hydrogen storage?

[fickle ore]

Actually it's turbine -> hydro -> synthetic fuel

that's how they're doing it rn

for storage

[astral haven]

thats not house scale

[fickle ore]

ye sure

[astral haven]

maybe district scale but most likely metro scale

[ashen spindle]

not cheap and not efficent but those storage system do get used in some places already

[astral haven]

yes but what sort of energy are we looking at there in kwh

and how long before that energy self discharges like hydrogen always does

[fickle ore]

Anyway the point is, even if hydrogen is very inefficient to make, if it can be made 'free' with the help of economics of scale (i.e 1000x+ turbines) and they can alternate between producing or storaging on VERY windy days when the Grid couldn't take more.. It's very good idea to convert it to hydrogen (or synthetics) on those days and, perhaps figure out a way to pass it on to consumers.

[ashen spindle]

uhh 1500kwh for one box I think

[astral haven]

that sounds wrong

[fickle ore]

I'll bet there will be district pipes for hydro in the future. That seems kinda complicated for energy in that pic

[ashen spindle]

https://www.homepowersolutions.de/en/product/

[astral haven]

im talking energy output not storage

because those are very different numbers for hydrogen

[old marlin]

if we can get fuel cell prices down then it will 100% be cheaper than buying energy that you sold before

[ashen spindle]

there was some numbers about it but I dont remember it

[old marlin]

with a lack of scalable alternatives it is one of the better options

[ashen spindle]

For 300 kWh (= 1 storage bundle) you need an area of 1.75 m x 1.0 m. In total, up to 5 such storage bundles can be installed on one picea. Thus, for 1,500 kWh you need an area of 5.75 m x 1.0 m. The hydrogen storage unit has a 2.0-metre height and can be placed up to 50 metres away from the house.

he electrolyser has a 70% efficiency. When energy from the storage tank is needed, the fuel cell comes into play and converts the hydrogen into electricity and heat. The fuel cell has a 50-60% efficiency.

[old marlin]

Just have a water pump tower in your garden

[astral haven]

so you need 5x1x2 meters for 700kwh of electricity

and that electricity you are using has an efficiency of 35% approximately

[fickle ore]

Not too bad. Beats solar on efficiency 😄 but I guess you'd want both.

[astral haven]

no it doesnt beat solar

[ashen spindle]

how does it beat solar huh

you use solar and store excess there

[astral haven]

solar is infinity efficient by this process

[fickle ore]

Talking PV efficiency, I guess solar is free if we forget initial costs. I do assume the hydrogen system would cost less, but no idea.

[ashen spindle]

looool

what

[old marlin]

What

[astral haven]

the hydrogen system is something that you install on your home with solar

[ashen spindle]

this is a storage system only

[old marlin]

Two separate things

[ashen spindle]

you dont generate energy out of nothing here

[astral haven]

^

[fickle ore]

Wot

[astral haven]

grid to hydrogen is beyond braindead

[ashen spindle]

you take electricity, make hydrogen with 70% efficency, store it, then use that when you need it

[astral haven]

and using the hydrogen to make electricity is 50% efficient on top of that 70%

[ashen spindle]

yup

[astral haven]

but it should be 100% if used as heating

?

i assume they do that

[ashen spindle]

well you would want a heat pump for that so you still convert it into electricity because you gain >2x via that

[astral haven]

i mean it does depend tho doesnt it?

[old marlin]

Heat pump will be more efficient

[astral haven]

esp when you are cold enough to be snowing

[ashen spindle]

I dont think even worst case air heat pump would go below 2x

[old marlin]

Yea

[ashen spindle]

and if you have some earth/water system it can be >3x

[fickle ore]

I think modern heat pumps are close to 2.7x

[astral haven]

you would need something like that
ours hits 100% efficient at -20f

[ashen spindle]

well, we also dont reach -20f more than maybe once 10 years lol

[astral haven]

i imagine -30c is relatively common in places that the solar gets snowed over

really?

and is hydrogen actually worth in your area?

[ashen spindle]

I mean the idea for this is self sustained off grid or so

[astral haven]

fair enough

[ashen spindle]

the cost for a home system storage is like 60k or so last I checked

[astral haven]

thats not that bad at all

[fickle ore]

Oh lmao, I thought u brought water and made hydrogen out of it it for storage and then spent it via fuel cell Xd. If it's used with solar that makes more sense

[ashen spindle]

yeah this is for local storage

[astral haven]

you cant just use water to make hydrogen
you also need power

[fickle ore]

Yes I know

But Idk, maybe they just wanted to store it, remote place and frequent grid power downs, idk what I was thinking

xd

[fickle ore]

Anyway cool idea, but the cost is wayy to much

[ashen spindle]

well yeah

efficency needs to go up and cost go down

but at least it works already and has the potential to scale where it makes sense

[astral haven]

tbh it would pay for itself in 50ish years here I think if you already had paid off solar panels

[ashen spindle]

the 60k is without anything solar lol

[astral haven]

*that produce enough annual power for your uses year round

yea

[fickle ore]

but 70k in total you could pay a life time of fossil fuel electricity, so back to zero

[astral haven]

assuming you already had the solar you need

[astral haven]

are you sure about that?

[fickle ore]

Nah not sure, but probs

[astral haven]

if you had a large generator and only needed to run it for a year or two it would be fine

[ashen spindle]

I mean, my prices are going from 2x cent to 52cent per kewh this year so uh, it certainly looks more attractive now lmfao

[fickle ore]

100x12x50 (minusing the years I spent living with my family)

[astral haven]

but the maintanance on a 20 year old gas generator would be awful

[fickle ore]

wowow wtf we are back to 3-10 cents range

[astral haven]

esp if you were running it 6 months every year

[ashen spindle]

and also this version isnt supposed to be for everyone quite yet

this is for if you are off grid or want self sustainability year around

[astral haven]

ye

but if you get any solar during winter you can just overbuild your system to the point where it generates enough year round

[ashen spindle]

but those people can pay more and it has few downsides so now they can work on scaling it for more usecases

[fickle ore]

I wonder how much good FC's cost

like 5-10k?

[ashen spindle]

fc?

[fickle ore]

fuel cells

[astral haven]

free with purchase of a mirai

[fickle ore]

Buy a Hyzon truck instead

[astral haven]

uh

im quite confident thats more expensive

i wonder if anyone has battery converted a mirai

would be one of the cheapest luxury electric cars

[crisp granite]

a sprinkle of fc

[misty saffron]

all these websites needing consent for cookies is great and all but is SO fucking annoying

i can’t imagine how you european people deal with it

a popup each time i visit a website is so fun!

[misty saffron]

hi pc building people

does this look like reset is plugged right below power?

actually no it doesn’t

[shadow minnow]

It indeed doesn’t

[misty saffron]

seems to align right below those rightmost pins on the pic

[shadow minnow]

I managed to plug my temperature sensor into cmos reset pins

[shadow minnow]

Yes, so typical placement

And bellow a fan header

[misty saffron]

oh yeah chassis fans thanks for reminding

[shadow minnow]

No problem

[fair gull]

it does

it looks like + is in the middle so both the left and right of it are gnd

[misty saffron]

so it doesn’t matter

whatever then

[fair gull]

shouldnt matter

just try it

power it on

immediately press reset when you see the logo

this wouldnt cause damage to any software and you can see it reset

or go to bios to test it

[misty saffron]

i wonder if i can do any damage by plugging a sata drive into a sata drive

these cables are a mess

[reef patrol]

What the fuck is that abomination.

Look for the missing pin and read the silk screened instructions, man 😄

[misty saffron]

oh so it does matter

[reef patrol]

Polarity matters on... some of them.

[old marlin]

Only for leds

Not for switches

[misty saffron]

yes i meant the position for the reset switch

one of the dp outputs doesn’t work on gpu… that’s weird

[reef patrol]

Looks like that motherboard skipped pin 5 for reset? and moved it to be 7/9. Hard to tell from the silk screening. Manual always best.

[reef patrol]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1IOL4q5tDDQ

[shadow minnow]

Infineon traveo t2g CYT4DN where?

Mentions in product selection guides and short articles but no datasheets or product sites to be found

[old marlin]

I'd guess the same, given that it is offset from the power labelling

[wheat plume]

https://youtube.com/shorts/JJZovKcJgn8

Intel Unison !

Using Bluetooth though ....
Hhmmmmm

LOL YEAH

[formal crown]

Could anyone suggest me a set of keycaps for ISO Italian language that have see-through letters for the lighting?

[fair gull]

ive never seen 5v on a pin

[reef patrol]

Ooooold standard.

[formal crown]

it seems italian keycaps are already rare but I really need them to light up because I'm usually in a dark room and can't see the letters

[shadow minnow]

Nice clickbait title

[reef patrol]

That pin hasn't been used for as long as I've built PCs personally.

There also used to be a different header layout which is why some cheap boards have an additional adaptor, for early 2000s cases for ....the two people who own these I guess.

[fair gull]

almost all modern motherboards have it as gnd

at worst NC

https://external-preview.redd.it/sa0Bb7YFAsYn_QBk49tKipoQJ1mH28QZ6hOb_aE8Yx0.jpg?auto=webp&s=052e939e4d583c74b32febaea4fd404c5ede92de

[wheat plume]

It's not though

The app does the same thing that apple products do together

[shadow minnow]

It is

It doesn’t crush the apple ecosystem

[reef patrol]

Corsair or Razer? Probably your best bet

https://www.corsair.com/ww/it/pbt-double-shot-keycaps

[shadow minnow]

It does have some nice features but it’s not the end of apple ecosystem by far

[formal crown]

Thank you, the Razer ones look perfect. Do you happen to know which profile the keys are (OEM, Cherry, DSA...)? the website doesn't tell

[fair gull]

cherry i believe

[formal crown]

dammit

[fair gull]

no

OEM

not cherry

my mistake

[formal crown]

even worse 😄

there's a listed R4 key that I'm supposed to place on R1

[fair gull]

well if you want smth thats not cherry or oem you will probably be hardpressed

[fair gull]

that doesnt sound right

link?

[formal crown]

https://www.razer.com/gaming/keyboards/accessories/razer-phantom-keycap-upgrade-set

[fair gull]

and which one is the r4 cap to be put on r1?

[formal crown]

the \ | key in Italian keyboards is placed where the ~ is located

above the TAB

so with a OEM profile it would feel funky

[fair gull]

thats probably cause its not italian then?

[formal crown]

well yes I guess, for other languages the same key is probably located in R4 as listed

[fair gull]

its US layout

or ISO International or whatever its called

[formal crown]

US uses ANSI (small ENTER key)

[fair gull]

Layout(s) Supported: Standard bottom row US and UK layout

no US works on iso aswell

(the computer layout)

[formal crown]

oh ok

[fair gull]

theres ANSI-IT aswell

but

its missing stuff due to the 1 key missing

so keycaps for ansi are almost all US

unless complete custom sets people make themselves

anyway ISO IT will have that key but you need to find one in ISO IT first

[formal crown]

oh no no, ISO is what I'm looking for

I didn't even know ANSI-ITA existed

[fair gull]

as i said only custom sets

if any

anyway this is besides the topic. ISO IT caps are probably few and far between

https://candykeys.com/category:keycaps/layout:iso-it

@formal crown

maybe one there

[formal crown]

I see there is one available but I think it's not made for rgb

[reef patrol]

If you want "RGB" you're basically stuck with gaming brands and OEM in 99% of cases.

[formal crown]

sad

[fair gull]

i dont think oem is a problem is the keys are made for ISO IT

the main issue probably was that it wouldnt fit using a US layout print

the whole R4 cap on R1 key

[reef patrol]

Problem? No I was just referring to the fact that Cherry and anything else are VERY unlikely for anything gaming - which in turn is what you need to look for if you want shinethrough legends. 🙂

[fair gull]

oh ya

[formal crown]

out of curiosity I checked my current Razer Cynosa and they look like staircase profile

[fair gull]

what profile

https://www.dwarf-factory.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/07/3-Profile-list.jpg

[formal crown]

honestly it seems like a hybrid: they look like OEM but all the same as R3 only

G20 then I guess

[wheat plume]

Discord really dislikes loading channels for me when my phone is on battery saver mode
.-. wtf

[old marlin]

the cynosa is membrane

[formal crown]

right, I forgot about that

it is, is that a big difference?

[old marlin]

cherry will feel similar

[formal crown]

Cherry or OEM wouldn't be a problem if I didn't need to place an R4 key in R1 😄

[old marlin]

well

gl finding any italian keycap sets

[fair gull]

ya

[reef patrol]

Have you considered... not doing that? 😄

[fair gull]

i mean you could just use the US layout

[formal crown]

at this point, I am right now

[reef patrol]

You're asking the impossible here. Less common profile AND RGB. In Italian no less. That is a big ask.
Best I can imagine there is looking for a service that does custom laser ABS keycaps based on your legend design in a rarer profile (if that is even a thing), but lasered keycaps wear fast.

[fair gull]

id personally not thing that the OEM profile would be a super huge issue

but finding ISO IT is

as in getting use to the profile

[reef patrol]

OEM won't work though if they want R4 on R1? They would need a profile with no R row difference.

[fair gull]

nono as in find OEM in ISO IT

[formal crown]

I don't think the profile would matter as long as the keys are in the correct rows

[fair gull]

then theres only the height difference

which is just some getting used to

but the issue is finding ISO IT Shinethrough

[fair gull]

id personally agree but some people are hell bent on lowprofile for example

and getting used to heigher keys is impossible for them

[old marlin]

eh

[formal crown]

unless an ISO-IT OEM exists

[old marlin]

the bigger problem is stepping between keys

cherry is fairly flat in that regard

while something like OEM is less flat

[formal crown]

I'm on my work mac right now and the keyboard is flat, but my personal pc has the Cynosa so I switch daily and have no issue

[old marlin]

not to mention MT3 or SA

[tribal dirge]

I’ve always used OEM profile, I can never get used to lower profile keys and switches.

[old marlin]

atm I am using OEM at work

and swap to either cherry or DCS, which is rather similar to cherry at home

without problems

though if I could I would swap the caps on the board at work

[fair gull]

well flat to a good 2 cm is a difference imo

i cant use apple magic keyboards

[old marlin]

eh

I can

[fair gull]

the keyresponse is finger tips hurting and its so flat

[old marlin]

but not exactly a good experience imo

[tribal dirge]

Bruh, Mac keyboards are just their laptop keyboards lmao.

[fair gull]

i mean they are ergonomic af

[old marlin]

there are people that prefer that though

[fair gull]

the fact they are so flat and have almost no angle makes them perfect for ergonomic typing. now they only need an ergo layout

[old marlin]

meanwhile I prefer my weird mishmash of things at work

[tribal dirge]

Then there’s the Magic Mouse which is an ergonomic nightmare.

[fair gull]

the magic mouse is... something.

its a touchpad on a mouse body

[old marlin]

can't see the problem

[reef patrol]

[fair gull]

ah for when you use the drawing tablet

[old marlin]

not like bad mice are a new thing for apple

[fair gull]

mansen would know all about that

[reef patrol]

I wouldn't really. All of my Mac stuff predates that design 😄

[tribal dirge]

I mean, if you’re thinking about a Magic Mouse, just get the MX master 3

[old marlin]

the original ADB mouse is prob their best one

[tribal dirge]

Most of my apple products are all Tim Cook made

[old marlin]

if you want a mouse for on the go to throw in a slim bag the magic mouse is a better option

[fair gull]

oh he works in the factories now?

good to know

[old marlin]

yep

[tribal dirge]

Just get the Magic Trackpad

[old marlin]

he also hand engraves the m2 chips

[old marlin]

much bulkier

[reef patrol]

Not an amazing design but it was certainly iconic for the time.

[old marlin]

most laptop bags have a small mouse compartment

[fair gull]

thats certainly one way to design a mouse

[tribal dirge]

When you’re talking about packing, it’s all about the slimness, not the overall volume.

It’s why big phones can fit in pockets

[reef patrol]

This is my era of Apple mice (not my pic)

Going from "we invented the mouse" to "soft edges" going all the way to quirky and "so we also invented the egg vibrator by accident probably"

[tribal dirge]

iMac G3

[nimble nymph]

what is that thign

[tribal dirge]

The puck mouse

[nimble nymph]

that looks horrible to use

[tribal dirge]

Kinda is, (I used to use one, it’s not that great)

[old marlin]

like I said

most laptop bags have storage space for a mouse

but the trackpad would not fit in that

[reef patrol]

To be fair this is what Macs looked like at the time.

[tribal dirge]

Mine doesn’t, lmao.

[old marlin]

same CPU as a wii

[tribal dirge]

Steve Jobs was really big on color at the time, to make it less intimidating and less industrial to appeal to the masses.

[old marlin]

mostly to differentiate themselves

[tribal dirge]

Mhm, most desktops at the time were all beige boxes

[nimble nymph]

i mean atleast it worked as a mouse ig?

[tribal dirge]

And all in one computers weren’t even a thing

[reef patrol]

I still think the G5 (which I have) is where Apple really hit home.

LCDs instead of CRTs, it's an all in one with FULL access to the ENTIRE interior with THREE screws (imagine that, seriously) and the keyboard and mouse were very sensible.

[old marlin]

certainly is peak contemporary design for them

not as wonky as the g4

[reef patrol]

Proper shielded compartments, nothing soldered. Everything could be replaced with other parts save for the obvious PSU and motherboard itself.

[old marlin]

and no exposed psu

[reef patrol]

Still praying someone makes a proper PowerPC Apple experience emulator. The ones we have don't handle early 3D well (and is very crash prone), and these Macs don't live forever.

In the meantime I hope mine keeps going, so I can play the games that didn't get ported to other platforms (properly), and as a "this was my childhood" artifact to pull out for fun.

Gave mine an SSD and 2GB DDR...1? DDR2? RAM.

Yeah DDR1*

[tribal dirge]

Peak apple design in my opinion was with the Apple 2 or the OG MacBook Air.

[reef patrol]

My only real regret is trading my G3 for it. I can no longer boot directly into OS9, only boot it up as an emulation of sorts.

[nimble nymph]

do you own a lot of old apple things?

[tribal dirge]

I remember when the iPod was a thing

[reef patrol]

Uncle was a lead engineer at Apple back in the 90s. I practically grew up on Apple 😄

I have his old Macintosh Plus that Apple used to translate all of their software to Danish on, as well as binders of said software. Very cool tech.

[nimble nymph]

ngl i still have my ipod its dead and will probalby never turn on again but i have it

[reef patrol]

I have the tiny one without a screen. Used to use that all the time before smartphones and Spotify took over.

[tribal dirge]

I have a 2nd and 1st Gen. iPod that my dad used to own and they still work.

[nimble nymph]

the ipod nano?

[tribal dirge]

The batteries aren’t great though lol

[nimble nymph]

maybe ill try to find a charger for it and just see if it works then

[tribal dirge]

FireWire charger always helps

[reef patrol]

Shuffle. Nano had a screen.

[tribal dirge]

Oooo

[nimble nymph]

i was gonna say either shuffle or nano couldnt remember which one

[tribal dirge]

I remembered when Steve Jobs pulled that nano out of that tiny watch pocket in his jeans, it was insane.

[reef patrol]

Good old diskettes 😄

[tribal dirge]

Noice!

I have a bunch of floppies from college.

[nimble nymph]

the only thing i have that is kinda old is a gameboy color

[tribal dirge]

I see

[reef patrol]

My G5 fits perfectly in my IKEA shelf unit. Just haven't gotten around to using it much lately.

[tribal dirge]

I don’t really use vintage macs lol, mostly because I just have no use for them.

[nimble nymph]

im trying to get most of the pokemon games for it but they are expensive rn

[reef patrol]

I only have them to play the games I had as a kid.

[tribal dirge]

I wonder what games were on the Mac at the time.

[reef patrol]

Most popular games you'd find on PC.

Games like Civ, Simcity 2000, Warcraft, Diablo 1/2 even early WoW.

I played vanilla WoW on my 15" Titanium macbook.

[tribal dirge]

True, because apple still had Intel silicon.

[reef patrol]

No no this predates Intel.

[tribal dirge]

Oh wait, PowerPC

[reef patrol]

Back in the day Blizzard actually gave a shit and had PowerPC specific versions of all of their games. And then released Intel patches for each game as Mac owners moved over.

[tribal dirge]

I see

I remembered playing Half-Life when it first came out.

And Unreal

Unreal was my first taste of FPS

[reef patrol]

Bonus pics of an ongoing project I still haven't finished due to moving and not owning a 3D printer required for the final touches. Reviving a dead Macintosh Classic using modern hardware (Either ITX or a high powered Raspberry Pi esque solution)

Works as a concept - I just need to 3D print proper brackets to mount the iPad LCD to the inside as well as the control board for it. And re-buy something to run it all inside. Sold that ITX board ages ago.

[tribal dirge]

3D printer you say?

[mossy plinth]

Should be able to pick up 3d printers for a decent price nowadays

[nimble nymph]

some of them

[reef patrol]

Mhmm. Can't screw the LCD into the case - nothing lines up. So I'll need an adaptor bracket and then a frame to mount the control board on the back of the LCD itself.

Just haven't gotten around to finishing it.

[tribal dirge]

You could probably pick up a Creality Ender 3 for about 100 bucks nowadays.

[nimble nymph]

i got a ender 3 v2 for about 80? on sale

[tribal dirge]

The older model, not the newer ones

[mossy plinth]

Yeah Crealitys printers are great

[reef patrol]

Moving again soon so project's on Ice till I get settled again 😄

[mossy plinth]

I have one at home and work and they are solid reliable printers

[tribal dirge]

I have an untimaker, the “apple” of FDM printers.

[nimble nymph]

i gotta mess with my settings a bit my prints are a bit messy

[tribal dirge]

What’s up with the prints?

[nimble nymph]

i dont really know how to explain it so ill figure out how to fix it myself

[mossy plinth]

I tried for ages to figure out why my prints weren't doing too well and it turned out to be my Octopi/Raspberry pi was undervoltage all along lmao

[tribal dirge]

Well what do the parts look like?

[nimble nymph]

lemme see if i can find one of my prints somewhere after my val game

[mossy plinth]

so I upgraded the mainboard, got stepper smoothers and even rubber mounts for the stepper motors and in reality it was underpowered raspberry pi

[tribal dirge]

Yeah, running G-code is more cpu intensive than you think.

[nimble nymph]

ive seen that and the bambu lab x1

[tribal dirge]

Generating G-code is even more demanding.

[mossy plinth]

Luckily with all these upgrades I can get insane speeds with only minor ringing

[tribal dirge]

I also have a formlabs 3L for resin

[nimble nymph]

i really want a resin printer i just dont have space for everything else you kinda need to get with it

[tribal dirge]

The UV curing station, the fixers, buckets, it’s an involved process.

[tribal dirge]

Even the printing resin itself it’s pretty expensive.

[mossy plinth]

Don't forget the fumes

I was tempted to rent out a garage just to do resin 3d printing because I don't want the fumes in my house

[tribal dirge]

Oh yeah, there’s a reason why I have a fume hood lol.

Oh and a dehumidifier.

Also printing with ABS is scary

If you overheat it it produces a gaseous neurotoxin.

And it’s odorless.

[nimble nymph]

good to know

[tribal dirge]

Just don’t overheat plastics in general. Lol.

[nimble nymph]

yeah true but still

[mossy plinth]

I thought ABS mades an odor and it's not good but not awful

None of the components present in this material are listed as a carcinogen. Under normal processing conditions, this product contains no toxic chemicals.” However it also states that, “Fumes produced during the melting processing, may cause eye, skin, and respiratory tract irritation, and if overexposed, could cause nausea and headache.”

if you're worried then an enclosure with an activated carbon filter is your best bet iirc

[tribal dirge]

No, it makes a neurotoxin

[mossy plinth]

Interesting. Do you have a source?

The heating of ABS does release Styrene but that itself isn't a neurotoxin https://www.cdc.gov/biomonitoring/Styrene_FactSheet.html

[tribal dirge]

When you overheat ABS it can decompose into its constituents: butadiene (carcinogenic to humans), acrylonitrile (possibly carcinogenic to humans), and styrene (reasonably anticipated to be a human carcinogen).

[tribal dirge]

Styrene can cause issues with the nervous system if it enters the bloodstream.

[mossy plinth]

the first two would be as a liquid rather than a gas with styrene being released as a gas wouldn't it?

[tribal dirge]

Liquid or gas, it can still enter the bloodstream.

[mossy plinth]

Just checked and it's required to be 400C to break down that far.

[tribal dirge]

You’d be surprised how common thermal runaway on printers is.

When the thermoster fails on the print head.

[old marlin]

used to be

it's not anymore

also you got bigger problems than the plastic turning into a neurotoxin

since it will set your house on fire

[tribal dirge]

True lmao

[mossy plinth]

Even then to hit 400C isn't easy even with an upgraded heater cartridge

[old marlin]

with a thermal runaway scenario you easily hit over 700C

it melts the alu block the hotend is made of and all

[mossy plinth]

Must be pushing more wattage than what the heater cartridges take at that point

[old marlin]

no

it just never shuts off

[mossy plinth]

because even 50/65W are supposed to max out at 550C

[old marlin]

but thermal runaway problems are a thing of the past basically

[tribal dirge]

I’ve had only one printer to have thermal runaway in my life.

[old marlin]

anet a8?

[tribal dirge]

No actually

[mossy plinth]

That's the famouse fire hazard one

I was trying to remember it's name lmao

[tribal dirge]

It was a LULZBOT

[old marlin]

rip

[tribal dirge]

It’s like the last printer that I would think to have thermal runaway.

[mossy plinth]

The talk about toxins has got me tempted to finally buy an Aranet 4

seems like amazon finally have them in the UK but they are still £200

[zealous vale]

Anyone know where I can pick up a tofu60?

I know there’s a waitlist but I’m trying to find if somewhere else might have like a second hand one or a raised price

[reef patrol]

Waitlist?

No it's out of production. What's left is what's left.

[zealous vale]

Yikes

They still let you join a waitlist

[reef patrol]

Who does?

[zealous vale]

Kbdfans

[reef patrol]

Oh their own site - Yeah that's not great. Maybe if there's enough demand they'll do a final production. Their new V2 is a completely different design that won't match.

[mossy plinth]

Mechmarket subreddit will be your best bet

[zealous vale]

Yeah I wish the 2.0 had the usb on the left rather than the center

Are there similar alternatives I could find?

[mossy plinth]

I wonder if any cad examples exist and if it'd be possible to get a CNC firm to make one

Never mind, can get 60% cases for cheap from https://mechboards.co.uk/

[vagrant pagoda]

Wooting has all of their design files on github

[mossy plinth]

Yeah, in theory you could send the cad file off to a firm and get them to make a metal version of the case. Not sure of the cost but I bet it wouldn't be cheap

[zealous vale]

I’ll look into that

Thanks

[old marlin]

Not sure if the V2 will actually replace the original

[shadow minnow]

Answer is yes they went too far without watching the video

[pale sigil]

All they did was add an extra 0

Harmless

[shadow minnow]

Ikr they basically added nothing

Since 0 is nothing

So I don’t see why are people unhappy

I bought 10 of these

Best mouse I ever had

Unlike the last one that came with the bubonic plague

Never buying from that brand again

Was something like Kaffa industries

[pale sigil]

Still better than kofola

[shadow minnow]

Which is crazy

Does it have like a custom asic or an fpga?

Only way to justify

Even then would be useless

No because everything is made in China

[reef patrol]

They're... Filipino?

Oh Singapore. My bad. 😄

[old marlin]

I mean

that is the pricing you get on products that don't have a cap on price

from all I heard that is unlikely to happen again i nthe near future

also there are more viper minis coming

as in

different versions

a more regular wireless version was already confirmed

or well

strongly hinted at

and a third one that nothing is known of yet exists as well

[latent mural]

@reef patrol Just to let you know my keyboard arrived after the DPD issues. Should I send an email or is this fine?

[old marlin]

might be a wired version of that second wireless

[latent mural]

It seems DPD just aren’t updating their tracking system.

[reef patrol]

Feel free to send a quick followup email with "Got it - Thanks for help" so I don't reply back on monday asking if you received it 😄

[latent mural]

The UK DPD strikes probably just delayed the delivery. Still not helpful that they don’t update their tracking system.

Will do, appreciate the helpfulness.

[mossy plinth]

UK DPD Strikes? When did that happen? 🤔

[reef patrol]

The UK is going through a series of strikes right now. Teachers, Nurses, Traindrivers? and a ton of other folk.

Germany has DHL strikes, which affects their entire network since everything passes through their center there.

[mossy plinth]

afaik no couriers are striking atm in the UK

[latent mural]

Literally everyone is on strike, wouldn’t be surprised.

[mossy plinth]

Trainstrikes are happening atm but couriers use road here for parcels. Royal Mail did have problems a while ago if that's what they meant

The Royal Mail strikes caused a bunch of backlogs and they got hacked which cause issues for export related parcels. But DPD, DHL, TNT/Fedex are running fine atm

[old marlin]

it's hit and miss atm

had most stuff come through with a day delay at max

and one of the things I ordered recently is just stuck

[latent mural]

They didn’t contact me to pay import fees…

[mossy plinth]

If it's UK and the order value is under £135 before delivery and stuff you may not be asked for fees

[reef patrol]

You won't* be asked for fees. You do however pay VAT on checkout with us.

[old marlin]

https://videocardz.com/newz/windows-11-may-soon-allow-users-to-control-rgb-lighting-without-third-party-software

would be cool if that becomes a reality

[reef patrol]

The only problem is... you still need all of those apps anyway.

Fan control, macros, hardware settings etc...

[astral haven]

be cool if they made an extension system for the settings app so you can add categories and tabs

[old marlin]

sounds like a prime source for headaches

but yea would be cool if you had some menu where manufacturers could add stuff like that

no more dogshit software

[mossy plinth]

However we all know how couriers can be

[reef patrol]

Not...really?

[mossy plinth]

You never had problems with couriers and customs fees/duties?

That's mostly what I've had to deal with for the past two days at work

[reef patrol]

Depends on what you mean.

Couriers asking for fees they can't legally? no, never.
Couriers forgetting to charge fees in my favour? Absolutely.
Couriers delaying things because of issues with fees? Sure.

[old marlin]

only with fedex

[mossy plinth]

Yesterday a courier was telling us how we owed fees for a customers parcel and then they backtracked and realized they made a mistake and meant to take the money from the customer but never did. So they've chased us instead of the customer. Absolute nightmare.

[reef patrol]

Never had that issue - As a consumer or seller 😄

[mossy plinth]

Today I've been chasing up fedex because they are changing their rules soon. But they are unclear in what they've wrote. e.g they said we should apply a Recipient Tax ID if it's available.

[old marlin]

avg fedex moment

[marsh glade]

Was it delivered? Tell 'em to get fucked 😛 Operator error in customer's favor, collect two hundred cannucks

[mossy plinth]

However you click their link and it states that it's actually a requirement

[marsh glade]

Oh I assumed this was a Canada thing

[mossy plinth]

Yeah, it was delivered over 10 months ago. They've massively cocked up and are chasing us for payment for their mistake.

That teaches us for trying a new company.

[pale sigil]

Hue

[reef patrol]

[ashen spindle]

man that sounds cringe

[misty oasis]

Anyone know if you can delete profiles off the keyboard? Like if I just want two profiles to toggle between instead of 4?

[reef patrol]

Mnope. But you can stop using the other two and unbind the Shortcuts to them.

[ashen spindle]

mode key can be used to toggle between digital and last used analog profile back and forth

[vagrant pagoda]

Just set the same two profiles twice

[empty pasture]

<@&375234916776017933> waht type of type-c port is in the wooting 2 he 60 ?

I was wondering

[reef patrol]

The uh... C port kind of type?

(Also please don't tag staff out of the blue)

[empty pasture]

@reef patrol then how will I propose questions ? lol

[reef patrol]

You ask - And we answer?

What a novel concept.

[empty pasture]

yes so i pinged the staff 😛

[reef patrol]

Without - pinging anyone.

[empty pasture]

yes but what type is it a basic type c theres ones that can do 40gbp speed

[reef patrol]

It's a keyboard. It runs USB 2.0

[empty pasture]

yes I do know thast

[reef patrol]

So by that logic...

[empty pasture]

but im talking about the one on the board

[reef patrol]

yes

[empty pasture]

hmmmmm

[final flame]

a kb has no reason to be transmitting any more data than USB 2.0

[pale sigil]

only thing important really is power transfer

[chrome estuary]

1440x2560 is weird especially on a 24" monitor.

[astral haven]

Unfortunately I am displeased by the lack of x16 +x8 support

Oh God
I could go 144gb in 3 sticks to avoid having less capacity in an upgrade

[crisp granite]

damn
that card is unbearably huge

[sharp badger]

It's priced at 1073,90€ here 🤑

[tropic nacelle]

you dont need to play at 120+fps and ultra quality.
You can play on medium and still hit reasonable frames with low/mid tier gpus

the point is now you have the "choice" to get more, its optional although it would be nicer if the lower end cards dropped a bit.

Its not really comparable to the 90s though

not really, 3000 series and 6000 series from nvidia/amd are all across the budgets

[tropic nacelle]

its not the same, both are very valid options.

PC has lots more games that arent on consoles and have superior input options available to them

[vagrant pagoda]

i might be too much of a nerd, im installing XP from a microdrive

[tropic nacelle]

never even seen one of those! 1998 wow

[vagrant pagoda]

i have a bunch still from early 200s

up to 8gb

i think i had a 12gb once

[shadow minnow]

I can’t be bothered with trying to ram OC this anymore idk if it’s my ram or cpu that sucks or mobo

[pale sigil]

Asking about iPad repair....

Dude is saying screen replacement but it's the touch glass that needs to be replaced -_-

[reef patrol]

Yeah we had a big argument about how touch layers are glued to the LCD these days the other day- with differing opinions on why. So no more replacing just the touch.

[pale sigil]

Hmm a repair guy quoted £270 for genuine apple and a bit less for none genuine

Doesn't really feel worth it

For an iPad first gen

[reef patrol]

If it's an LCD swap definitely not worth.

[pale sigil]

It's clear he just doesn't want to replace the screen glass

[reef patrol]

First...gen... like... first first? Or 2019 new line first gen?

[pale sigil]

Which I know is possible but also hard

2015 first gen iPad :p

[reef patrol]

So... not first gen. Got it. Still not worth it.

[pale sigil]

First gen iPad pro

My bad

[reef patrol]

Let me put it this way - I can buy a refurbished iPad Pro 2016 for 230£.

2017 for a few pounds more.

[pale sigil]

Ye haha

If they would replace the glass it would be significantly cheaper but I know not many places would do that.

As it's quite annoying

[reef patrol]

We used to do it all the time. No more work than doing anything else.

Still had to heat up the iPad, suction it off and pray it didn't shatter - which is why we always asked for a deposit on this as a risk of repair.

[pale sigil]

YouTube pretty much shows you need a heating tray

For the pro 12.9

Most stores won't have that and using a heat gun looks horrendous

*heat gun

[reef patrol]

We used both. A pad and a heat gun for when the pad wouldn't quite get there.

[pale sigil]

https://youtu.be/fheATNvp0zA

Looks awful

I can really respect labour costs when I see this shit

Looks like a right pita

[reef patrol]

It is - But you learn how to be efficient.

[pale sigil]

I'd imagine and that's thats what you pay for I guess.

[reef patrol]

Like we used to use packing tape across the entire glass if we needed to replace the glass or open an ipad when the glass had any kind of fracture. Because 99% change it shatters into tiny fucking pieces later.

I literally had a shard of glass embedded in my thumb for 4 weeks, and didn't realize like an idiot.

[pale sigil]

God damn it why can't louis have a shop in the UK

[reef patrol]

Constant dull pain, it finally popped out after a month of complaining.

[pale sigil]

Should have chopped it off

Instant fix

[reef patrol]

[pale sigil]

He could be right idk

The screen itself is fine visually but irrc the touch is via glass.

[shadow minnow]

Does ram suck or cpu

[reef patrol]

game show music

[pale sigil]

Both

[shadow minnow]

Why it OC so bad

[pale sigil]

Why do you even wanna oc an i9

[reef patrol]

To see how quickly I can boil an egg on a 9900K

[shadow minnow]

Fun

[reef patrol]

[shadow minnow]

11900k

[shadow minnow]

Literally

[reef patrol]

In retrospect I am so glad I got rid of my 9900K Engineering Sample. It was so hilariously hot and didn't OC well at all. Even got someone to pay extra for it.

[pale sigil]

My 7700k ran at 95c

At one point

Intel said it was fine

[reef patrol]

Yeah that's been their corporate line with the current gen as well.

[shadow minnow]

While hogwarts legacy my cpu is running at 35c

[reef patrol]

So glad I have absolutely zero investment into that universe 😄

[shadow minnow]

Because cyberpunk was a great investment

[reef patrol]

It was!

[shadow minnow]

And cyberpunk case

What a great game

Certainly has all advertised features

No bugs

Very finished

Tbf the case was really cool but still

[reef patrol]

Definitely lacked the promised content - And was 5 years late. But I still managed to complete it - on launch with maybe 5 emergency savegame loads due to a bug that broke something.

[pale sigil]

Man fuck cyberpunk

[shadow minnow]

You mean duck not man

[pale sigil]

Story was such a letdown too

Honestly made me sad

[reef patrol]

That IS literally Cyberpunk as a genre, Pleasant 😄

[pale sigil]

Oh you meant the genre

[reef patrol]

No.

The game plot is classic cyberpunk.
No happy endings. You either die a slow and unremarkful death or go out in a blaze of glory.

[shadow minnow]

Steampunk > cyberpunk

[pale sigil]

Mate cyberpunk edgerunners had an amazing story

Loved every second of it

2077 not so much

[shadow minnow]

I am sure 2078 will be better

Happy new year

[pale sigil]

It was generic, cliche and mind boggling boring after the first act.

Whole pacing was a shitshow too.

Not really 😅

[shadow minnow]

I don’t remember it too well but I think there were a few broken promises

[pale sigil]

The game was horrendous at launch and took a long time to get alright.

Just stick with Witcher 3 and watch Edgerunners.

[reef patrol]

The only things that truly bug me about 2077.

• Empty world, especially areas that had a ton of initial world building. Pacifica needed its own chapter due to the amazing themes there.

• They made Judy gay, leaving me with ... one romantic option with one specific ending

• Terrible class and skill balancing (a skill for diving in a game where you don't use it in a single mission)

• Delayed by 5 years after an amazing teaser trailer (Just proves further why I feel like I do about anything teaser in nature 😛 )

[pale sigil]

I have absolute hate for 2077

[shadow minnow]

Will tes6 be worse?

Possibly

[pale sigil]

I was gifted it and I still felt robbed.

[shadow minnow]

Robbed of time

And disk space

[reef patrol]

I built an entire custom water cooled pc around it, twice. And I didn't feel robbed.

https://tenor.com/view/shrug-gif-25269231

[pale sigil]

I forced myself though it out of feeling bad

I just couldn't stand the story and characters.

[shadow minnow]

I mean the pc looked much cooler than the game

[pale sigil]

Judy was best bae though

[nimble nymph]

twice??

[shadow minnow]

[reef patrol]

So I built the PC in preparation for the 2000 series from nVidia. Then 3000 series released and my regular sized Dynamic O11 case couldn't fit it. So I had to buy the XL edition and get that re-graphic'ed.

[nimble nymph]

ahh makes sense

[pale sigil]

https://tenor.com/view/cyberpunk-glitch-gif-19752257

[nimble nymph]

i prob need to upgrade my graphics card but i cant be bothered to

[reef patrol]

https://imgur.com/gallery/F4tXzvp

Scroll down and you'll see what I mean. Had an artist design the art and had a printer do this to the case. Twice.

[shadow minnow]

Cyber quack

[pale sigil]

It was unoptimised trash anyway

Took a while to get there

[nimble nymph]

oh that actually looks really nice

[reef patrol]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P-NsT1WUW4o

[shadow minnow]

My pc is pretending it doesn’t have Bluetooth again

Smh

I hate this os

[fair gull]

hate shitty drivers

[shadow minnow]

Well it’s Intel wifi so would expect it to not be that bad but me wrong

[fair gull]

@ashen spindle someome apparently found the cure for hogwarts legacy https://steamcommunity.com/app/990080/discussions/0/3761104682801781631/

[ashen spindle]

huh yeah sounds about right lol

[pale sigil]

I saw that

Gonna try later

Unreal Dev friend said he called it but this can cause some textures to be blury

[shadow minnow]

This ram sucks

Idk I am not really getting stuttering

[ashen spindle]

because you have enough vram

[shadow minnow]

Oh makes sense

[fair gull]

the script is falwed, it uses Win32_VideoController which limits it to 4GB max vram in the object.

[ashen spindle]

tbf for most cases its enough since if you have more than 8gb most cases its fine

and it halves it from what I read so that helps in most cases

but still should be 64bit to work for all cases

[fair gull]

ya so the max the script will ever do is 2GB

in the settings

[ashen spindle]

oh

I thought it would set it 4gb max still then

[fair gull]

no it reads 4gb max

[ashen spindle]

didnt fully read it and just flew over it

[fair gull]

and then calcs with that

[ashen spindle]

ahhhhh

[fair gull]

https://github.com/theyetty/update-hogwarts-legacy-engine.ini/pull/1

ya boi got you covered though

[chrome estuary]

i'm glad i didn't buy this to play it. it's such a mess.

after the latest update, my friend says it works perfectly for her

[ashen spindle]

is it a mess though? this is just vram limitations mostly for higher settings or resolutions

[chrome estuary]

this is just now. she was unable to play it for the three days of the "early release" for deluxe editions.

[ashen spindle]

first I heard of any issue that big but at least it works now

[chrome estuary]

it crashed for many many people at the seizure warning

[ashen spindle]

ahh that part

[chrome estuary]

hers crashed right after

updated drivers, updated windows, reset shit, redownloaded the entire game once.

but yeah it works now but i'm pissed i spent the extra money so she could play it a few days early as a birthday present

[pale sigil]

It kept crashing on my laptop

Had to change page file size which I’ve never had to do before

[misty saffron]

is there an easy way to move data from old 500gb ssd to new one that’s bigger?

i’m guessing one’s able to copy data completely and expand the partition

[pale sigil]

Clone it or just manually copy the data

And yes you can expand the partition

After you cloned it

[misty saffron]

manually copying isn’t an option, it’s an os drive

[pale sigil]

So if you want to keep the OS then yes, clone it.

After cloning you can expand the partition.

[reef patrol]

Using a decent cloning tool that allows for extending partitions after the fact. I use Acronis.

[misty saffron]

can you launch that off a usb stick?

[reef patrol]

Yep.

[pale sigil]

You can use tools to do that yes.

[tribal dirge]

Mhm

[misty saffron]

excellent, thanks

[pale sigil]

Both via USB booting or running on OS

[tribal dirge]

Linux could work and it’s free

[misty saffron]

all software is free for me now

considering i can’t buy it

[tribal dirge]

Lol

[misty saffron]

unless it’s russian

[pale sigil]

I mean yes but it's easier to just run clonezilla

Which In itself uses Linux irrc

Clonezilla is a little bit more tricky though

[tribal dirge]

Quick install of Debian, boot into the drive, clone, resize in the partition map, and you’re done.

[pale sigil]

Hmm

[tribal dirge]

Usually the full Debian install has the terminal tools that you need for disk management.

[pale sigil]

Ye so

You still need software

Via the terminal

Otherwise partitions will just be borked upon cloning

[tribal dirge]

Lol yeah

[pale sigil]

So.... Basically

Still just the same amount of effort

[tribal dirge]

True.

Though, I fondly remember cloning a RAID array, that was a pain lmao.

[vagrant pagoda]

gparted is amazingf for that

[wheat plume]

Gparted is amazing

[shadow minnow]

Day another of giving up trying to get stable OC

It’s fast enough basically

[shadow minnow]

Hmm how are new Samsung phones taking up so much for system data

[astral haven]

Developing story with no good answer yet

It's also suspiciously proportional to the capacity
The 512gbs have about 50gb lost
And the 256s have about 30gb lost

[crimson wigeon]

Isn't it just a case of counting GiB versus GB (1024 or 1000, etc)

[reef patrol]

You don't "just" lose 10% of your capacity.

[ashen spindle]

would be around 30 difference not 50 for the 512 if its just GB vs GiB

[crimson wigeon]

And then you snack off some additional bytes for "integrity" or other such nonsense

[tribal dirge]

and a little more for those cases where your system swaps memory.

[astral haven]

No they specify the lost capacity

[shadow minnow]

Well it’s still a bit too much

Compared to any other phone really

Or even windows

[vagrant pagoda]

Wonder if it's swap? Dont higher flash phones have more ram

[astral haven]

That's also shown as a separate line item from system tho

[true quest]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xh9gWCv2sXU

[vagrant pagoda]

it was pretty

[cursive summit]

DLSS 3.1.1 is out https://www.techpowerup.com/download/nvidia-dlss-dll/

As far as I found the short summary of improvements are "improvement on quality presets, reduced ghosting effects and artifacts, more consistent low latency and improvement to low % FPS with Reflex On, more balanced mid average fps and high FPS improved by about 2%"

[ashen spindle]

its just the sdk for public use, not really anything new for most

[shadow minnow]

But that much swap allocated by default?

Swap should be allocated based on availability anyways

[ashen spindle]

is using two discords instances still the way or are the BD options to have tabs, or rather two chats open at once?

[empty wren]

See what you do is open multiple browsers

[ashen spindle]

I'm not going to open discord in my browser

[halcyon moss]

i do

tab containers is an other option 😉

[empty wren]

Try this then

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[halcyon moss]

the power of google

[empty wren]

From 7 years ago as well lol

[ashen spindle]

yes and I asked if thats still the way to go or if better discord has options that make it easier to use

[halcyon moss]

why would they?

[empty wren]

Would a neat feature anyways, not even on discord

[ashen spindle]

because it sounds like something possible to do when you mod discord and people want it so maybe someone did it and I just didnt see it

[empty wren]

Oh

Like dis?

[halcyon moss]

usually platforms like these discourage alt accounts

[ashen spindle]

oh its for the same account

I want to have two channels open at the same time so I can see both at once without having to switch

[halcyon moss]

oooh, tabs :p

[empty wren]

Yes a revolutionary feature

[halcyon moss]

why would i run 3 browsers instead of 1? 🧌

[crimson wigeon]

See I'm not insane for wanting such a feature! There are dozens of us! Or at least two..

[empty wren]

Exactly run 7

Who needs ram

[crimson wigeon]

Yeah just run moar browsers, if your computor can't handle it then it's time to get better hardware

[empty wren]

[halcyon moss]

7!?

[empty wren]

But yeah discord is slow to add stuff

Even if it is very simple

[crimson wigeon]

Yeah I member seeing some demand for multiwindows way back in 2015 on the featuresuggestions thingamajig, and still nothing

[ashen spindle]

so I take it nobody knows if better discord has a working tab thing

[empty wren]

Try and see I guess https://betterdiscord.app/plugin/ChannelTabs

[ashen spindle]

not too fond of running code that doesnt even show me what it would do

[empty wren]

Fair enough

[ashen spindle]

I mena inside of a browser I dont need it, might as well just use a second chrome tab then

or is that the betterdiscord thing just within your browser?

ah

channel tabs also is just for tabs like in a browser you cant view both at once I found someone using it and got a screenshot

[empty wren]

Unfortunate

[ashen spindle]

ah fuck multi instance means I get two ping sounds, now I remember why I hated that solution

[halcyon moss]

heh

[ashen spindle]

well time to hope guilded or teamspeak5 do something so discord have to add features for once

and not spend months fucking up font and doing nothing else

[crimson wigeon]

But that's what the users want!!

[shadow minnow]

Why is duplicating files in windows so slow

Also making and unpacking zips

Like it was literally faster to move the file over from an external drive than duplicate it using a 7gbs drive

[reef patrol]

Writing to the same drive will do that.

[ashen spindle]

duplicating and moving a file work differently

[reef patrol]

Moving is duplicating with extra steps, but usually from different drives so faster than C to C.

[delicate jewel]

whats the best free youtube editing app for PC

[shadow minnow]

Well somehow it’s much faster on macOS, many many many times faster

It was literally 2mbps duplicating on windows a thing that was done on mac instantly