It's just a better version
#πβtech
still loom
astral haven
thats why its got a new number lel
astral haven
its not a 5nm chip
still loom
It 100% is
astral haven
nope
ashen spindle
why do you think all the leaks had n31 so much higher in performance, because they also eventuall got that info and just didn't know that something was fucked up in the mass production
still loom
Do you research my friend
astral haven
its produced with a 5nm class node
still loom
A 4090 chip is 5nm
astral haven
it can be at best called 34nm generously
the process node that made it is based on 5nm
but that again is irrelevant
the nm numbers are a marketing excercise
a lower number means an improvement on a higher number and thats it
so its whatever tsmc says it is
ashen spindle
you two can argue that point, I cba xD
fact is the only way nvidia knew the real world performance of the 7900xtx in time to change the name for their cards and get it all sorted out, is if they have an inside mad literally giving them day1 info on it
which would explode into insane consequences if that ever came up and isn't even worth it lol
astral haven
except it wouldnt even be day 1 bc the 4080 timeline started along time earlier than 7000 series did
day like -100
ashen spindle
I'm being generous since I dont remember those dates just roughly when amd would've had the info and where that would place them
astral haven
point is it would have had to be insider info from real high up to be in time for nvidia
still loom
you two can argue that point, I cba xD
fact is the only way nvidia knew the real...
I didn't say they would know performance, things are leaked between the two companies through the development process
No one knows the actual performance of the card until close to the announcement
But specs are leaked
Between both companies
ashen spindle
ok, the issue is with the info you say they should know, they would expect the 7900xtx to be on par or beating the 4090
astral haven
^^^
still loom
No
still loom
They didn't even try
ashen spindle
???
still loom
The made a tiny card with low power consumption
astral haven
they literally tried extremely hard
still loom
They didn't, they have more coming
astral haven
what
ashen spindle
huh
ashen spindle
N32/33 are coming but those are lower tier cards lol
still loom
Yes but they are delivering price to performance, knowing they can't beat pure performance
astral haven
yes and they figured out that they had to do that literally within days of launch
marketing execs were told it would be alot better than it was
even amd doesnt make a mistake that bad unless it was only found out too late to correct...
still loom
I mean it's commendable that you think AMD think they can beat Nvidia on pure performance
They know they are behind
They aren't stupid
astral haven
you really havent followed tech for very long lmao
amd is very confidently wrong often
still loom
What's that got to do with them making the most powerful chips?
How many times has that happened?
It's their first chiplet design
And you think they thought it would be the most powerful?
ashen spindle
the cards can be clocked to above 3.5gz shader clocks on air cooler and it scales, the issue is you dont get those clocks in games but in blender or something, it was supposed to scale like that in games but something got fucked up
the chiplet part is not the reason why it failed
still loom
It's not, but it's also not the reason they would all of a sudden be the strongest
It takes time
astral haven
every single officially announced at an event gpu since polaris was thought to be faster than it ended up according to amd engineers
i mean consumer side
still loom
Idk why we are arguing about AMD anyway, they are useless π
ashen spindle
well there is a chance they can fix it with a respin and we get rdna3 beating 4090 this year
astral haven
because nvidia prices their cards what they think will be competitively...
still loom
Maybe one day their drivers will add 20-30% to the 7900s... in like 3 years π
astral haven
well there is a chance they can fix it with a respin and we get rdna3 beating 40...
yup
amd had the w only a few years back with 290x vs 780ti
still loom
because nvidia prices their cards what they think will be competitively...
Hardly, the 3090 was $1399 last time
400 more than AMDs
Then they decided to increase it
astral haven
yet it sold consistently over 2k for the entire cycle
astral haven
and at launch it was 1k more than amds closest competitor
still loom
They know what they're doing π
astral haven
you overestimate nvidias 5d chess
still loom
They own the majority market share and offer the overall better product so they know they can charge more
They basically own the entire laptop scene
When people think of AMD they think price to performance, and Nvidia knows that
Nvidia doesn't care about price to performance, they never did
astral haven
thats uh
verifiably untrue
still loom
They will put it just about close to a reasonable price
But always higher
To make more margin
ashen spindle
didn't you start out by saying nvidia based it on what they knew amd's performance will be?
astral haven
But always higher
thats also verifiably untrue
still loom
didn't you start out by saying nvidia based it on what they knew amd's performan...
No, Nvidia knows they could price the 4090 what they wanted because they knew the basic specs of both flagships
So they knew the could price the 4090 out of any competition
astral haven
No, Nvidia knows they could price the 4090 what they wanted because they knew th...
but the specs were wrong
still loom
Not to the moon, but in general comparable they are usually $100-200 higher
still loom
but the specs were ***wrong***
Specs and performance are different things
As you well know, watching an AMD launch
ashen spindle
the specs nvidia knew from leaks in whatever form were wrong since amd themselves "knew" of different specs
astral haven
Specs and performance are different things
the actual acheivable clock of the processor had a bug that caused it to be 1/6 lower than it could have been
and amd didnt discover that bug until way too late to do anything about it
still loom
Where are we going with this anyway? Are you saying Nvidia don't overprice their cards by at least 100-200$ every gen?
astral haven
overprice is an opinion
ashen spindle
we were saying that nvidia did not price it based on amds performance, because they did not know it based the pre release specs
astral haven
but i can assure you that the 1080ti and 3080 reference cards were not overpriced
reef patrol
ashen spindle
you said nvidia knew ahead of time what amds performance is and thus made the 4080/4090 different tiers then before, and they just didnt knew the actual specs in time for that
still loom
I said they knew about specs
They always do
Just like Intel and AMD do with eachother
Nvidia and AMD do aswell
Always
It will never not happen
astral haven
but the specs were wrong
still loom
So?
ashen spindle
they knew specs yes, but not the specs that the cards launched with at all
the specs they knew would make the cards like 20-40% better or so
still loom
You're telling me the specs were wrong until the launch date, even by all the engineers at AMD's labs
They had no idea what their own specs were through the entire development process
ashen spindle
not until launch date but very close to it yes
astral haven
You're telling me the specs were wrong until the launch date, even by all the en...
announcement not launch but yes
still loom
Ok we are done here, have a good night xD
ashen spindle
the issue they ran into is related to making the die, either on mask or etching label or something
astral haven
do you not remember the 3ghz snafoo?
ashen spindle
you cant find that in pre silicon validation
and a respin to fix an issue at that stage takes 6+ months
this isn't some amd fanboy coping because if they cant deliver it, it doesnt matter and I wont buy something because of the potential it had
but that's how it happened
astral haven
well I will lel
but only if it fails so hard it doesnt even leave the es stage lmao
ashen spindle
ok sure xD
astral haven
π
ashen spindle
but based on early specs this would've been the second run of uhh, what gen was it where radeon heavily beat nvidia till their refresh, was it the 5870?
with like half the die size so nvidia had to cut prices
dont remember which gen that was
astral haven
far as i remember, the only dx9 or later card where amd had an outright advantage was the 290x
but the 480 was a giigaaaantic die compared to the 5870 and used alot of power
ashen spindle
https://twitter.com/IanCutress/status/1616477220310224899 oof thats not good for pricing xD
vagrant pagoda
@astral haven it's true. That's why TR can OC and TR Pro can't.
astral haven
but tr pro can oc
its only multiplier locked
the 5990wx can use north of 600w easily, and it can clock higher than stock with a bit of bclk tweaking
vagrant pagoda
You can do that with epyc in some boards too
astral haven
yep
astral haven
You can do that with epyc in some boards too
it is quite difficult to make regular threadripper use that much power...
ashen spindle
well if you make a lot of stuff a lot of failures will naturally come out
astral haven
^
old marlin
well if you make a lot of stuff a lot of failures will naturally come out
yea but what of it stuck around
astral haven
intel is just one of the companies that is least secretive about their indev products
ashen spindle
well it kinda did stick around aside from itanium
astral haven
phi was x86
old marlin
itanium afaik still costs them money
astral haven
and phi went on to start atom
old marlin
iapx failed HARD
ashen spindle
and itanium and phi helped them lots to make arc from what raja said
old marlin
how did itanium help make arc
I doubt arc will ever make them back what they paid for itanium
astral haven
itanium was extremely fast
itanium was intels first risc design
and basically every new architecture since was risc
including arc
ashen spindle
idk whatever they learned making it was applicable, no clue if that means physically or logically fir their designs
vagrant pagoda
it is quite difficult to make regular threadripper use that much power...
5990x did more than that
Just never relased
astral haven
5990x == 5990wx
astral haven
ok it was their first high performance risc design
vagrant pagoda
Iodie is irrelevant it's how it's packaged. Tr has always had more power and ground pins
astral haven
[citation needed]
astral haven
larabee was cancelled before it could do anything
vagrant pagoda
It's literally why it has less memory and pice lanes
astral haven
optane was a complete success, however it wasnt intel's
old marlin
is optane still a thing?
astral haven
It's literally why it has less memory and pice lanes
it has fewer mem and pcie lanes bc it has more lanes reserved
astral haven
is optane still a thing?
theres 1 more gen that just released but its basically gone
vagrant pagoda
Wut
astral haven
the problem is that intel didnt own the factory
old marlin
so it also failed
astral haven
define failed
vagrant pagoda
Tr and TR Pro have the same number of lanes to the chipset
old marlin
it underperformed hard
profit wise
underperforming in a technical sense was prob only iAPX
astral haven
Tr and TR Pro have the same number of lanes to the chipset
reserved meaning unused pins
astral haven
profit wise
again
because they didnt own the factory
old marlin
again
because they didnt own the factory
should be calculated in
astral haven
the factory was sold off and repurposed before they could turn a profit
vagrant pagoda
If you stick a epyc in a tr board it kills it
astral haven
NC = no connection
old marlin
OHNONO
astral haven
If you stick a epyc in a tr board it kills it
yes because they moved around data pins between tr and epyc
some of those data pins ended up over old supply pins
astral haven
OHNONO
yea itanium was completely useless because of how terrible the risc compilers were
old marlin
yea itanium was completely useless because of how terrible the risc compilers we...
should have learned that lesson before
like twice
still not as bad as iAPX
but still bad
astral haven
itanium was their first risc processor
and the mistake was making the compiler do the heavy lifting of the parallelization while putting little to no effort into the compiler
vagrant pagoda
yes because they moved around data pins between tr and epyc
Not all of the pins are power but a buch are. I'd have to look it up but two memory channels are extra power
old marlin
itanium was their first risc processor
and the mistake was making the compiler d...
that was the same shit with iAPX
also
not their first risc processor
i960 predates it by like a decade
and was still in production when itanium came out
astral haven
iapx was not risc
astral haven
i960 however used a risc instruction set
itanium thought they could fix the risc issues by making a vliw instruction set on top of a risc processor
but it just made things worse
but again tho itanium was fast asf
if you had something that could use it it was the fastest cpu available and it wasnt even that close
but it was too much work to switch over
intel learned their lesson from that
thats why they spend so much on actually developing other peoples software these days
arc is vliw risc like all the other gpus afaik
like itanium was supposed to compete with power cpus
and ibm had a massive installbase and was not sitting still in the slightest
vagrant pagoda
like itanium was supposed to compete with power cpus
and ibm had a massive insta...
IBM is a software company first, hardware second.
astral haven
lmao what
they have a monopoly on mainframes and quantum computers
both require software, but the main part is the whole having a mainframe/quantum computer...
vagrant pagoda
IBM sells mainframes as packages with software solutions
astral haven
well no shit
but the whole key part is that they are the only company making the hardware too...
vagrant pagoda
Yeah but starting with the system/360 Ibm started pushing the complete stack as a sale
astral haven
π€·
vagrant pagoda
Which is why the 360 was the first computer with comparability between models
vagrant pagoda
You could start on a little baby 360 and then upgrade to one of the massive building size ones
gusty kiln
@ashen spindle https://videocardz.com/newz/radeon-gpu-cracking-not-caused-by-drivers-storing-conditions-and-cryptomining-to-blame
womp womp
gusty kiln
damn really, I even went back up to check
ashen spindle
not from VC directly but yea
gusty kiln
hope all the other shit-tubers parroting this make a follow-up
ashen spindle
was buried in other talks tbf
tropic nacelle
I like how they still try and blame mining for them failing.
It was the environmental conditions, if I drop my cards in water it doesn't matter if it was previously running simulations or games....modern "news" irks me too much these days
ashen spindle
well a normal person would not store >40 cards in unhealthy condition and then sell them
it wasnt mining directly but still only because they were used for mining
but also more on the fact that if you buy something within warranty to make sure to get the proof of purchase to have warranty lol
reef patrol
Consider how terrible the room moisture must be to outright damage GPU chips.
tropic nacelle
Most sensible people would store them properly yes, any idiot can attempt to store them though :).
Depends how long they were there I guess, plenty of people have issues by living next to a beach or something
Do they?
They normally are better than the normal 'i don't use dust filters and never vacuum ' GPU owners π
crisp granite
usually it's just open air rigs with massive amounts of PCI-e slot bifurcation no?
haughty latch
as expected, drivers dont just blow up gpus
In ultra rare cases from fuckin crazy bugs but that is legit like shit dating back to the gtx 480 iirc lol
but past that yea nah, gpus cannot JUST blow tf up like that lol
haughty latch
Consider how terrible the room moisture must be to outright damage GPU chips.
"mmm drinkable air"
LOL
crimson wigeon
Efficiency!
gusty kiln
frozen ingot
if its not powered on and allowed to dry properly its unlikely to break something
however oxidation is an issue if it dries too slowly
crisp granite
that sounds an awful lot like
"don't forget to put your GPU in the oven at a low temp after powerwashing it"
fair gull
warm room with good airflow is enough
pale sigil
I had a nightmare I bought a CPU and it wouldn't work.... I tried to see what was up and somehow I made it explode into pieces lol
ashen spindle
stop posting the same thing in multiple channels
reef patrol
If you do that one more time, I'm going to time you out, Sport π
Pick a lane and stay in it.
reef patrol
wheat plume
Is there that much demand for one??!!
astral haven
And?
Even 1% of 400m is alot of people
reef patrol
Very odd I agree. Must be enough rich people who want to feel good about it without touching the average man's music 
wheat plume
LOL
astral haven
Yep
wheat plume
All the people with the newest iphone model and Apple Care thinking theu above the average citizen
astral haven
Or my grandma with an iphone SE who just wants to listen to classical music
wheat plume
my uncle had an iPhone 5S until 2 years ago
the only reason he got a new phone was the battery only lasted 70 minutes
astral haven
The only reason my grandma got a new phone is that my aunt didn't know how to operate the zenphone 5
wheat plume
but can use iOS?
astral haven
Yep
Think she just wanted facetime
It was also more about remotely guiding my grandma to use the phone
Than actually using it herself
wheat plume
lol
barren field
guys is there a charge stand for the X pro superlight?
reef patrol
Seems superfluous for a wireless charging mouse?
fair gull
i love those things where people buy accessories for their wireless stuff which makes it basically wired again
misty saffron
empty wren
I mean to be fair they could do mini boards or stacking them but more expensive
reef patrol
Anyone wise in the ways of monitors? Looks like I'll finally get a refund from Lenovo for my buggy monitor. And I've been looking around for a replacement - But it feels like there's a big leap from the budget range I'm in to anything with more features.
https://eu.aoc.com/en/gaming/products/monitors/cu34g2x-bk
https://deals.dell.com/en-us/productdetail/fu8e
These are the two that are basically identical in both features and price (450β¬ ish), but if I want anything more like say... actual HDR or Gsync (whether official or "technically works but it's AMD) and we're right up in the expensive Alienware/Dell super monitors at almost twice the price immediately.
ashen spindle
HUB did a somewhat recent video about best choices with EU prices might want to take a look there https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SwX1DW5-EVc&t=302s
but yeah real hdr you wont find in that price range
reef patrol
Worth a look I suppose - HUB just often tends to focus on smaller monitors. I'm at 34" where they tend to do 27" max unless we're back into the expensive range.
vagrant pagoda
Hdr isn't really worth it unless you are talking 1k+ fald
reef patrol
Hdr isn't really worth it unless you are talking 1k+ fald
Yeah that's what I was hoping for. HDR400 is completely pointless, and that is what all the monitors I've been looking at have.
vagrant pagoda
Hdr400 isn't worth turning on lol
reef patrol
Of course my monitor choice is a bit eccentric to begin with, so it's hard to get all the checkmarks without going to the top end. 1440P, 34" Ultrawide with curve is already not cheap π
Hm... as suspected HUB reached the same conclusion.
My monitor with "actual HDR" doubles in price.
(Or triples)
Guess I'll grab a similar monitor to what I have now without spending more than I get refunded and wait another generation π
vagrant pagoda
I have innocb, where are rebadge Asus pro arts
Had to import them to us
I think you can get them in Amazon now
wheat plume
They fixed the system tray overflow popop from hiding when you right click an app icon
wheat plume
I use it cause I hate having a bunch of icons in my system tray
reef patrol
Yes - I was alluding to that being your issue. Having too many icons π
fair gull
why do you have 2 ahk scripts running
wheat plume
one to close windows with win+shift+q and the other to open Windows Terminal with Win+Enter
fair gull
make them 1 script
wheat plume
how
reef patrol
Just get notepad++`?
wheat plume
oo, it does work in one script, very neat
reef patrol
What the hell else would you use? A full on editor?
fair gull
yes
wheat plume
?
fair gull
3mb of portable ahk ide
with all the bells and whistles
syntax highlights and autocomplete
and debugging etc
reef patrol
You do you - If you're actively making scripts go right ahead. Otherwise I see it as an absolute waste of bandwidth and space to download it specifically for something notepad can do. Also less lazy π
wheat plume
this is all I use it for now xd
and if Windows had its own way to edit and add shortcuts like literally every other desktop OS out there... then this would not be needed
π€¦ββοΈ
tight forge
just use visual studio code, it's a fancy text editor :)
reef patrol
and if Windows had its own way to edit and add shortcuts like literally every ot...
You mean this?
wheat plume
not when its as short as the one I need
fair gull
and if your vscode takes longer than notepad to open you fucked smth up
tight forge
so true
wheat plume
notepad loads as fast as the window opening animation plays
wheat plume
i even use vscode as my picture viewer now
tight forge
also you can add tabs to notepad in win11 22h2
view instructions in comments
a little hacky
fair gull
An ahk script is code? LMAO
shhhh
wheat plume
https://www.reddit.com/r/Windows11/comments/10hi0ga/windows_11_notepad_with_tabs...
I dont have a lot of the features for some reason
I didnt get the seconds in the system tray clock, I didnt get the new options for the taskbar Search button either and IDK why not cause im on Insider build
fair gull
can you hack a game with ahk? yes.
does everyone need to know? no
fair gull
I dont have a lot of the features for some reason
I didnt get the seconds in the...
the taskbar search button is a win10 feature isnt it
reef patrol
Mhmm
wheat plume
yeah but in the Insider buolds of 11, you can choose if its a button, a larger button or a search text box instead
but im missing those options
reef patrol
You can also just open the start menu and start typing.
reef patrol
yeah but in the Insider buolds of 11, you can choose if its a button, a larger b...
That's a 10 feature
wheat plume
view instructions in comments
where?
fair gull
ngl i use the start menu since ever cause it just works
tight forge
i stopped using the start menu since they started actively developing powertoys
fair gull
same for macos... i use the spotlight feature a lot
tight forge
powertoys run is so nice
fair gull
for me the start menu is still nicer cause winkey -> v -> enter already starts vscode
fair gull
dont use win11 lol
tight forge
Huh really
The windows 10 start menu was really iffy for me
Which is why I started using powertoys in the first place
fair gull
im not against win11 but i really really dont like the design
and im no fan of stardock etc
reef patrol
Cause "#Β€# the 11 start menu taking up half the space for "recommendations"
fair gull
i thought you can disable that
reef patrol
Back in beta? Yeah.
fair gull
no like rn
reef patrol
They kept removing, changing and hiding this harder and harder. Now you have to use actual tools to hack it back in.
fair gull
i havent seen that in my parallels vm on mbp
wheat plume
also you can add tabs to notepad in win11 22h2
I dont trust this website
fair gull
ngl
wheat plume
the one it links to in the instructions
wheat plume
this one
reef patrol
I don't want it empty - I want to reclaim the half it takes up π
pale sigil
im sick of everything being uwp
reef patrol
pale sigil
task manager for example was just fine
reef patrol
Everything needs to be UWP as of years ago. Microsoft are still dragging their heels.
crimson wigeon
UWP is dead lol
tight forge
this one
if you check the link it gives you when you put in the product code, it's a microsoft mirror iirc, but if you don't trust it then no worries, just use a better text editor KEK
reef patrol
I am referring to the "new" control panel UI btw. Which is still not complete as of 11.
wheat plume
new control panel?
pale sigil
fair gull
so apparently it is removeable
wheat plume
fair gull
with grouppolocies
reef patrol
new control panel?
Yes.
pale sigil
just use winaero tweaker
also mansen means the new settings
control panel is slowly being replaced
reef patrol
Right - Settings is what they call it.
crimson wigeon
I hope not, the new settings is atrocious UI
reef patrol
I just want to reach a point where I don't have to guess if the thing I want to change is in the control panel or settings. Because there's so much inconsistency there.
tight forge
I like it personally. They could maybe add more actual stuff but it's pretty clean
pale sigil
its so satisfying using isopropyl on my mouse to remove skin grease or w.e its called
feels like new again
reef patrol
reef patrol
ASRock being ASRock
fair gull
ya no i mean the mainboard
old marlin
yea he mentions that it has to be a special edition mobo
so it has a j2 header for it
fair gull
ye
reef patrol
Motherboard DLC
vagrant pagoda
thing is
this could work on any 650/670 that had the right header
and you can run m,ore than one
tight forge
that's actually pretty cool, since onboard x670 branding is fairly useless for most use cases, but you could still expand connectivity if needed
proven ferry
wheat plume
fair gull
i see you havent watched the vid
ashen spindle
because its clickbait to get you to watch it
wheat plume
LTT Translator time....
fair gull
its about enabling group policy editor on home, winget, wsl stuff, shortcuts
i forgot the rest
wheat plume
Ooh
fair gull
oh also shutting it down if no screen is shown
and how to use the cmd to go to bios and recovery
in general more about stuff windows never tells you but could be useful to many
especially the group policy editor
latent mural
does anyone know what this is
it is showing in the corner of my games and it is using the facecam
ashen spindle
what exactly
latent mural
ashen spindle
the replay symbol?
latent mural
nevermind it is instant replay on nvidia i think
latent mural
it's not normally on but i turned on racing mode on wooting by accident and it started activating every key
but there's no delete option on it and it randomly swaps to that and causes this sometimes
ashen spindle
wtf is racing mode
crimson wigeon
A default profile
gusty kiln
Yeah one of the 4 on the wootility
wheat plume
Do flagship Samsing phones will come with ads in their apps and 3 app ecosystems ??
Samsung app suite
Micrsoft office and OneDrive and Photo Gallery
And Google app suite
empty wren
Microsoft office might be preinstalled
Though i would think google documents could be uninstalled
As far as ads they may have winded down
wheat plume
Windows 11 mostly works on Xiaomi Mi Mix 2S !
Camera don't work though
Snapdragon 845
latent mural
yo is there any way to like make my computer run faster so my download is faster
ashen spindle
Buy better internet connection
wheat plume
Download speed doesn't depend on how powerful your computer is xd
Unless it's a large download like a game or large video
Then the speed of your storage can limit how fast you can download it
latent mural
bruhhhh
im downloading like 100gb of a game and i wanna play it today
1.7mb a second dawg
nvm its 1.2
ashen spindle
Then you likely need a faster internet connection if you want it to be faster
latent mural
ok lemme just poof one into existence π
ashen spindle
whats your connection supposed to be that you have
latent mural
guess ill wait
latent mural
whats your connection supposed to be that you have
wdym
ashen spindle
go ask your parents then
wheat plume
My mobile hotspot manages around 8-23 download on Steam
latent mural
My mobile hotspot manages around 8-23 download on Steam
mega bites?
wheat plume
Whatever unit steam shows
fair gull
Whatever unit steam shows
megabytes/sec
wheat plume
Yeh.. Those
latent mural
im on wifi not the connectable one
wheat plume
Same
ashen spindle
go ask your parents what internet connection you have
fair gull
inb4 16000
latent mural
go ask your parents what internet connection you have
ok then what
fair gull
then you know if its supposed to be faster or not
ashen spindle
well if its about the same as you get then you can only get faster internet if they pay more
latent mural
understandable
yk what would be cool
if you could like download one part of the game load in and the rest of the game downloads while you play
like utopia universe
ashen spindle
you can do that for some but for most cases impossible or not really worth wile
crimson wigeon
One of Steam's big hyped up features back in the day was precisely that. You can tell how well that worked by how very few games do that
ashen spindle
mostly because steam couldnt really do it and would mean work for the devs
thats why idk anyone but blizzard who has done it
vagrant pagoda
yeah ive got 3+Gbps though steam
latent mural
oh shit how do i do that
ashen spindle
first go ask what your speed is supposed to be since all that will only work if you get slower internet speds than you are supposed to have
latent mural
woo im on 1.8
vagrant pagoda
latent mural
only 14 hours to go!!
vagrant pagoda
i borked my websever again
wheat plume
if you could like download one part of the game load in and the rest of the game...
Origin used to do that with battlefield
But they don't do it anymore
latent mural
honestly i might just go to sleep early and wake up at like 6 to play
two hours of solid gameplay πͺ
latent mural
Origin used to do that with battlefield
But they don't do it anymore
yeah it sounds like a good feature but now that you guys explained i realise its not that good
i just wanna play shadow of war rlol
yeah utopia universe has it
yeah lmao
its an old game that was hyped up by news titles
like some guy spent 500k to buy a planet
π
i put 10 hours into it because i read about a guy like putting a mortgage on his house to buy something
i watched a video on it and it got me hyped up π
but its just repetitive
Anarchy Online, the first Sci-Fi MMORPG, takes you on a voyage 30,000 years in the future to a vast alien world full of perpetual conflict and scientific marvel.
first scifi mmorpg?
did it just die out
theres this mmo on minecraft that i put like 500 hours into but i quit after realising that i wont get any money out of it
i mean except the people who film themselves playing it
crimson wigeon
Whaddya mean just look at all these play to earn crypto games that make you rich
latent mural
i dont think i recognized a single video game you mentioned lol
latent mural
Whaddya mean just look at all these play to earn crypto games that make you rich
its a really fun game that makes you money - logan paul
like league of legends π
oh
wait how old are you
yeah fr
thick radish
lul
latent mural
what type of games do you like tho
i feel like im speaking to like a wise and mystical tree
your like the guy from god of war
the cut off head guy
yeah
your like mimir π
p sure its like kratos going to the egyptian gods and the boy going to find the giants
or something to do w giants
misty saffron
letβs play a game: is this image retention or burn in?
it's retention
huh, this panel really is doing well
slate solar
Anyone have a suggestion for a 240Hz monitor what wonβt break my bank 
I was looking at the view sonic X2431 or whatever it was called
latent hatch
this is the one I have
I guessb the 27inch is cheaper
I mean like
it looks fine
unless youre like staring 1 inch away from your monitor
lmao
say that first then
ok
I like it
bro
I do not care
It works for me
vagrant pagoda
lmao
saw this on reddit
dual xeons, but they are running in single channel lol
tranquil idol
That's cool but what's the point if they can't feed the CPU cores anything?
fair gull
e-pener
wheat plume
that cooler looks like its from an office PC back in 1990
latent mural
no idea
Do I just stop each fan by hand and see which one is making the noise
How would I even stop one
mild dome
Adjust tha fan curves with a software tool.
I think msi afterburner can do it, also I think you can do it in bios.
latent mural
dawg my monitor just shut down but my pc is still running
nvm whole thing shut down
Bro
I feel so fucking stupid
It was my neighbours hose ππππ
reef patrol
ashen spindle
basically the same
old marlin
ironic
I feel like I am missing something
does it have more ram slots hidden on the back or something
nope
ashen spindle
? it has 2 and you can see 2
old marlin
I feel like I am missing something
that guy runs it with one
and it got bundled with 4 sticks
old marlin
you cant get that board anymore
You can
vagrant pagoda
where?
vagrant pagoda
ah
all the ebay are for the new one
like if you google the board in images
click on them
takes you to v2
old marlin
You mean 2011v2?
vagrant pagoda
they call it v2
goes to this listing
the one he has is def DTX not matx
why would you get this
you can get a b450 and a 3950x for less
vagrant pagoda
yeah
so
dual 15 core 2011s
is 39000 passmark. 3950x is 39000
260w vs 105
plus the cost of the second block lol
vagrant pagoda
way more money
vagrant pagoda
i do like the pro art
you can run the m.2 and x4 at x2 mode
most only like one or the other
shadow minnow
I suppose what it lacks is PCIE lanes
gusty kiln
Man looking back, I wonder why AMD bothered to put chipset coolers on the first run of X570 boards
vagrant pagoda
Man looking back, I wonder why AMD bothered to put chipset coolers on the first ...
they needed it
i had a first gen, then a second gen
gusty kiln
vagrant pagoda
both have fans, but the second gen never turns on
the first gen x570 chips sets got toasty!
vagrant pagoda
which board?
gusty kiln
which board?
X570 Steel Legend
vagrant pagoda
that has empty, x1 x1
that is great for slots
lol
at bes tthey could of moved an x1 to the bttom
only thing i dont like is the x16 being in slot 1
its best these days in slot 2
gusty kiln
case is cramp
gusty kiln
my nvme m.2 is right under the GPU as well so I've avoided using it
gusty kiln
think so
vagrant pagoda
will be fine
i am using 2 of my nvme
and my gpu is fanless
and cpu is
still stays cool
vagrant pagoda
yeah but mine has no air flow
gusty kiln
what mobo?
gusty kiln
like the m.2 is behind the gpu
vagrant pagoda
yep
gusty kiln
not adjacent on the board
gusty kiln
I meant for mine
gusty kiln
lol chipset fan placement is way better than mine
vagrant pagoda
what i dont get on mine
is the x1 is open ended
but the chipset has a heatsing right there
they black heatsink over the x16 is just for chipset
gusty kiln
hmmm
mild dome
Irc didn't these almost never need to spin up?
astral haven
except when you have a bunch of usb devices, drives, network activity, or the morons making the board used a 3 pin header
thanks to my usb device count, my x570 fan is constantly on and its really annoying
deft marlin
thanks to my usb device count, my x570 fan is constantly on and its really annoy...
lemme guess thunderbolt 4 enjoyer, TOTL peripherals, NAS and DAS, laptop dock, phone charging, wacom stylus display, no USB port hub
astral haven
No thunderbolt on my x570, what's totl peripherals, yea Nas, no laptop dock, No phone charging, no Wacom, and I do have a USB hub
So 1 maybe 2 / 7
mild dome
Wonder if you could mod it to have a passive cooler, just use the case fans to help keep it cool
old marlin
just in case somebody wants an open box C621 board
good deal though
new it is almost 400β¬ more
old marlin
it's in the schnΓ€ppshop
old marlin
surprisingly accurate
vagrant pagoda
surprisingly accurate
Missing the most important part, rgb
vagrant pagoda
except when you have a bunch of usb devices, drives, network activity, or the mo...
Only thing that ramps up the fan on mine is nvme. Never had it run from usb
ashen spindle
man, the current timeline where chatgpt is working but so confidently wrong is the best point in time
I just asked it what is being research for storing heat in housings, like from solar etc and it told me the heat generated by solar tubes can be store in electrical batteries lmfao
halcyon moss
you just need a steam generator!
wheat plume
ooooo Tiling Window Managers can have animations now!?!
thats so cool
OK THIS VIRTUAL MMACHINE SETUP IS FUCKING AMAZING
ashen spindle
damn linux finally catching up with windows huh? xD
wheat plume
Desktops have had animations for decades
but not dedicated Tiling Window managers like i3 and Awesome and Sway
I never mentioned desktop in the message you replied to
ashen spindle
pretty sure fancy zones for windows has had that but could be wrong
wasnt talking about the desktop either
old marlin
and win 11 got a version of that built in
old marlin
because?
wheat plume
TWM have been around for decades in Linux but never had animations for when you open and close and move windows around
but now they can!!
ashen spindle
and all I did was a joke because usually linux does more there but fancyzones on windows had that before linux xD
wheat plume
Had what? animations?
ashen spindle
pretty sure fancy zones for windows has had that but could be wrong
^
wheat plume
those were just inherited from the fact it was running a full desktop underneath it
TWM rely on compositors and those tend to not do animation
but Picom and Hyprland and Instant do!
right?!
do you still need more than one dGPU for VM Passthrough?
fair
I cant try Wayland
cause Nvidia gpu ;-;
I regret getting Nvidia
yeah...
when I wanna upgrade im getting AMD for sure
Or Intel Arc...if their drivers get better
ALL HAIL sddm-git
no longer need to wait 90 seconds for my laptop to shut down .-.
"A Stop Job is running for SDDM"
pale sigil
I think it's a Linux thing sometimes
ashen spindle
if a linux command can make it go faster, yea seems like it
pale sigil
As you shutdowns the gui then it does shit from terminal
I've always felt Linux could be slower
wheat plume
your laptop took over a minute to shut down?
Some issue with SDDM under Wayland
SDDM-Git fixed it, shuts down in like 2 seconds now <3
I could get around the issue by logging out before shutting down but that was annoying
halcyon moss
so they fixed a quite annoying bug
wheat plume
Yes...just havent pushed it to stable yet ;-;
wheat plume
hmm
wheat plume
yeah xd
halcyon moss
did you get the new laptop?
wheat plume
Arch is super fast to load on my laptop
Boots into login screen in like 4 seconds
but takes about 15 on desktop
the lack of dGPU is probably a big help in boot speed
well, AMD GPU drivers are built into the kernel, so that probably doesnt have much impact on boot speeds either for those dGPUs
astral haven
thats not how that works
wheat plume
Nvidia GPU drivers need to load kernel mods and shit
astral haven
it takes however long it takes to initialize the device
linux can take dozens of minutes to boot on crazy complex machines with thousands of devices
halcyon moss
i think on most modern kernels, most features are compiled in as modules
tranquil idol
halcyon moss
especially GPU drivers which are huge and not everyone has need of that driver
pale sigil
I don't understand what I'm doing wrong
WoL is just not working lately
I've been using it over a year up until I switched CPU
But I re enabled it
And it worked fine for a few days
reef patrol
Reset Bios and start over?
pale sigil
Probably the only solution at this point haha
But I wanna try something before
Am getting conflicting info though
People say windows settings matter and others saying it doesn't
But idk how it would matter
Since it just sends the turn on signal
vagrant pagoda
Longer than I'm used to
That's what she said
pale sigil
That would be nice
astral haven
But idk how it would matter
theres a setting in windows that sets the setting in the hardware
pale sigil
I did see the network adapter thing
I turned off power saving
Booo
Bios reset didn't work
wheat plume
Are those animation enabled by default?? Or do you have to code them in?
Oooo
What app launcher does it use?
I do love rofi
;_; cries in Nvidia
frozen ingot
why would you want heat and driver issues
wheat plume
I actually use Linux xd
frozen ingot
not true
wheat plume
I'm not people?
frozen ingot
linux uses you
wheat plume
Tech Chap: is glad that macbooks got their ports back
Tech Chap: Is complaining that they are heavier and chunkier now
ashen spindle
I uh, kinda doubt that some ports are the cause for extra weight
wheat plume
they contribute to the chonk though
ashen spindle
https://www.techpowerup.com/img/b6YSNVq8TAOFYpkp.jpg
yeah they did say you can OC them a bit, we just dont know if its fully unlocked or just parts
gusty kiln
I thought we wanted apple to go more chonk rather than slim-meme
ashen spindle
for the most part I also equally dont thinbk ports make it a lot chunkier unless they added like fullsize VGA ports
wheat plume
hdmi ports are pretty thick compared to the USB C and thunderbolt ports
but yeah, they arent that much thicker
Think the non wedge shape is making people think they are thicker than they used to be
gusty kiln
yeah they did say you can OC them a bit, we just dont know if its fully unlocked...
inb4 you can only OC one CCX
ashen spindle
was my thought but no, listed on the 7800x3d too
and they did specifically mention I think curve optimizer to use with 3d ccx
gusty kiln
ooo
ashen spindle
or maybe pbo, dont remember
marsh glade
The heck is a SDXC slot and why does it look like it was named by Elon Musk?
reef patrol
The heck is a SDXC slot and why does it look like it was named by Elon Musk?
Refers to the speed of more modern SD cards π
astral haven
capacity not speed
reef patrol
Oh is it only capacity?
reef patrol
Oh there you go. Easy overview
astral haven
ye
gusty kiln
did the person ever buy the laptop?
wheat plume
The joystick things on monitors to navigate the OSD menu
tight forge
inb4 you can only OC one CCX
This is somewhat correct
https://youtu.be/ZdO-5F86_xo
final flame
that ihs still is wack to me
tight forge
You can curve optimizer and PBO the x3d parts
but the design is asymmetrical - one ccd has the 3d cache while the other doesn't
misty saffron
that ihs still is wack to me
sure is unique
gusty kiln
final flame
I'ma just call it the
integrated
heat
squid
wheat plume
lol
reef patrol
It's a heat spreader, emphasis on the SPREAD
tight forge
while it's not the most efficient thing in the world
it does allow cooler compatibility
which i think is nice
the design is interesting though for sure
gusty kiln
kek people were memeing on the IHS thickness cuz the cpu would target 90C, but then the non-X parts came out and it's perfectly fine
mild dome
I recall Intel suffered a lot from the single lever design. A contact frame like that applied for the 13th gen desktop CPUs reduced temperatures by 7C. Considering how hot those AMD cpus run and the fact they foolishly adopted the same single lever design I imagine an AM5 contact frame likewise improves thermals?
ashen spindle
probably not since there wasnt any bending noticed on am5
direct die cooling on the other hand
empty wren
π
final flame
wheat plume
I still get like 5 emails a year asking me to donate to them ;_;
frozen ingot
does the same on all my browsers
ashen spindle
click that
frozen ingot
still normal on native site
frozen ingot
but english is new
pale sigil
why dont you have it >4k?
apparently it just outright doesn't support exfat now
vagrant pagoda
why are you trying to install to exfat
pale sigil
i was trying to download a game
frozen ingot
click that
well that's good at least, but it resets to middle column every time you change article 
pale sigil
i share a drive between Linux and Windows
vagrant pagoda
linux runs ntfs just as fast as exfat
pale sigil
yesnt
wheat plume
Not very reliably
wheat plume
Hmmm
wheat plume
Yeah
You need additional packages installed to use it
vagrant pagoda
you might need ntfs-3g
pale sigil
why
wheat plume
And that fuse package thing
pale sigil
when i can use exFat
vagrant pagoda
ex-fat isnt made for constant use, its for bulk access
vagrant pagoda
yeah you want a journaled file system
or
do the real gangsta shit
mount ext4 via wsl2
pale sigil
on WIndows xD
vagrant pagoda
yeah
pale sigil
i just made a 150gb partition for xbox game pass
vagrant pagoda
it dose you no good to use exfat only on linux
vagrant pagoda
lol
vagrant pagoda
but yeah
ive dual booted, then ran windows in a vm for like 20+ years
ive never had a paretition die that windows couldnt repair in minutes
vagrant pagoda
it dosent if you tell it not to
empty wren
Good coolant and quiet pump for water-cooling recommendations.