🔌│tech

[ashen spindle]

also there are tons of people who get paid to buy an item, review it, then keep it as marketing payment

[thick pine]

Creators and whatnot

[ashen spindle]

no regular people

random people

[thick pine]

Right

[ashen spindle]

to have real accounts making reviews that are bought basically

[thick pine]

That makes so much sense

Jesus fuck

The ignorance is astounding

[ashen spindle]

hey @pale sigil would you mind showing an example where some companies wanted you to buy stuff, review it and give you the money for it?

this aint some conspiracy that I make up because I'm bored lol

[pale sigil]

Can do

[astral haven]

statistica makes you pay for newer data, but heres 2018

[thick pine]

So 60% of their sales are taken at a loss?

[pale sigil]

Correct

[ashen spindle]

no because not every fake review is a human, there are also completely fake reviews

[thick pine]

Yeah that’s just not feasible

[astral haven]

youd be absolutely shocked how many types of products are marked up well over 300%

[ashen spindle]

^

[astral haven]

1 sale pays for 1 fake review and restocking twice

[pale sigil]

Highest profile companies I've seen were Anker, Syncwire, Meross, Urgreen and um

[thick pine]

You mean cost to price??

[pale sigil]

Gimmi a sec

[astral haven]

no i mean net profit

my last job gave that as a stat every time i scanned a barcode

[thick pine]

Are you forgetting about labor, r&d, marketing, etc?

[astral haven]

nope

[thick pine]

Clearly you are

[astral haven]

as a store employee, i can assure you that no i am not forgetting about that

thats just what we paid for the product vs customer price

[thick pine]

Yeah you would be shocked how FEW products make 300% profit

[astral haven]

and i often checked amazon (which we price matched) and they had the same price

[pale sigil]

Trying to remember the companies

But essentially

[ashen spindle]

I think you underestimate how many budget products exists where 5$ is 300% profit

[astral haven]

🤷 i worked for a looow tier retailer

[pale sigil]

If its Chinese it's very likely they pay for reviews

Or did

[thick pine]

Sorry I’m not into budget products

[pale sigil]

Even Anker which I can pretty much verify personally

Only difference being i return if its shitn

[ashen spindle]

there are cases of chinese companies trying to get paid reviews from independent reviewers in the west because they didn't understand that's not done here in that way

[pale sigil]

budget

I've done a product over £100

[ashen spindle]

this isn't something we make up that is something extremely common in other parts of the world and just not liked here lol

[pale sigil]

I have had American companies offer too.

Most of the time they use "agents"

[astral haven]

define american company lel

[thick pine]

I mean I understand that businesses pad their review stats, that’s common sense

[pale sigil]

Vs directly

[thick pine]

Just not to the extent that you probably assume

[pale sigil]

They don't just pad they pay for 5 star no less than x wordsn

[astral haven]

60+% are known fake

[pale sigil]

Some even pay just for rating

I get over 50 product offers a day lol

[thick pine]

Sounds awful

[pale sigil]

All from bras to high profile tech

I just don't bother

[thick pine]

A bunch of garbage filling up the garage

[pale sigil]

Also Anker is hardly budget since its quite a big tech company

Same with Urgreen

[thick pine]

Yeah I have never heard of those

[pale sigil]

Ha

[ashen spindle]

ok, have you heard of intel? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8guiJegE8PE

[astral haven]

anker makes some good shit
ugreen also makes some very high end chargers

[thick pine]

I’ve been in an intel fab

[ashen spindle]

ugreen makes the usb hubs I use and they are great

[astral haven]

pssh usb hubs
just buy more pcie usb adapters

[pale sigil]

Aye but they still buy review.

[thick pine]

So if great companies are paying for reviews to outshine the shit competition who are also paying for reviews, the more money; the better reviews

The more sales=more money

Better product = better reviews

[ashen spindle]

what

[pale sigil]

Either way I'm just doing as quin requested, provide proof xd

[ashen spindle]

you do realize the fact that if something is good you might not even pay for the good review, if you have more money to start you can buy reviews to look better than a better product that doesnt have more money yet etc.

[astral haven]

you can get a near zero interest loan for a business lel

[thick pine]

Yeah but I’ve bought a ton of high end shit and never bothered to right a review, I can only assume that most people aren’t big enough nerds to actually write reviews unless getting paid for it

[pale sigil]

Hence why so many reviews are fake

[astral haven]

thats the problem

[ashen spindle]

yeah you just agreed to my point lol

[thick pine]

So what else are they supposed to do in this “free market” illusion

[ashen spindle]

who is they

[thick pine]

Just ignore the review culture?

[ashen spindle]

are you talking about the consumer or the companies

[thick pine]

All these guys who are buying fake reviews

[astral haven]

find a professional reviewer

[pale sigil]

Also

[thick pine]

The marketing

[pale sigil]

My profile was top 5% review views

[ashen spindle]

I never said anything about marketing people should never do that or anything like that?

[pale sigil]

Till I got purged

Shit is insanely effective

[ashen spindle]

I just said they are useless reviews because most are fake

[thick pine]

Clearly not

[ashen spindle]

you literally just agreed????

[thick pine]

These companies invest more into fake reviews than commercials

If what you’re saying is true

[astral haven]

likelyhood is if the professional reviewers have another source of income that you can trace, they probably dont need paid advertising money
and if they make videos you can generally look at them and see what they test about a product

[pale sigil]

One time a company asked me to review a power bank that was half capacity, told em to fuck off, I reviewed the item as 1 star and returned.

They offered cash to remove it

And one time when my cable went on fire years ago and I left a review (Normal order years before I knew about review stuff) they bribed the fuck out of me to remove it.

Which was Syncwire

It's not just fake reviews really.

It's also paying to remove bad ones

[ashen spindle]

yeah, paying for having good reviews one way or the other

[thick pine]

Yeah but my point is that companies that ship DOGSHIT products like you mentioned above will die

Doesn’t matter if they try to pad reviews

[pale sigil]

They don't and have been one of the most popular brands since 2015

Anker also is a behemoth

[thick pine]

Never heard of em

Samsung is going strong

[pale sigil]

Even meta recommend them

[ashen spindle]

yes if the product will literally burn down the house they are getting removed fast, otherwise no, if the battery charger has half the capacity, most people would never know that because how would they test

[astral haven]

https://www.ioiusb.com/Host-Adapter/images/l_1060162_01.jpg

god it took me a while to find it again

get one of these instead of pesky hubs lel

[ashen spindle]

lmfao bit overkill for me to switch mouse/kb/mic between two pcs lol

[pale sigil]

Anker is worth over a $1b apparently

So ye it's not small lol

[vagrant pagoda]

imagine having front bays

[astral haven]

external 5.25 bays ofc

[ashen spindle]

I mean some would argue intel pays for reviews, ships that sometimes and isn't going under

[gusty kiln]

Kinda regret getting this specific asrock mobo, 1st pcie slot is at the very top instead of a 1 slot gap

Gpu backplate already touching my u14s cooler

Newer gpus seems to have beefed up the back plate a lot

Dunno if they'll fit if I do upgrade

[astral haven]

get rekt
but also double check
many just have muuuch deeper coolers below the pcie slot without invading the area above the slot

[gusty kiln]

I've been looking at pictures but it's really hard to judge the z-height above the pcb

[astral haven]

also worst case you can either suck in gpu backplate air or blow your hot cpu air on the gpu

[gusty kiln]

I could just get a new cpu cooler

[gusty kiln]

U14S is definitely getting some radiant heat from the back plate

[astral haven]

i mean turning it 90 degrees

[gusty kiln]

Ah

Should have gotten a U12A

Sadge

[vagrant pagoda]

yeah they should just skip that slot now adays and stick a m.2 ther

though my board isnt much better

the x1 is 4th slot, so its a no go with any gpus

not many boards have dual type c internal

[gusty kiln]

Time for watercooled gpus

[vagrant pagoda]

i went from watercooled to fanless

[gusty kiln]

How was the pump noise?

Never had aios or water cooled

[vagrant pagoda]

you linked a 3.2 then a 3.1 lol

[astral haven]

waterblock time

[vagrant pagoda]

nope

ive used all of mine lol

[astral haven]

same

[vagrant pagoda]

i evn have a internal 3.0 hub

[astral haven]

i have 2 of those lel

well we both have the exact same problem...
so not thaaaat special lel

good correction lel

[vagrant pagoda]

oh i have 2.0 portsd

but who wants those

[astral haven]

i ran out of both 2.0 and 3.0 ports 😦

and i only have 1 port open on my hub

[pale sigil]

I have a front USB port I can't even use

[frozen ingot]

I luv my hub

such handy

[pale sigil]

Having a CV1 was hell

[vagrant pagoda]

i real;ly really want a 20gb hub that is all c

i want it so bad]

[pale sigil]

Took up 3 USB 3 ports

And my mobo was micro atx

[vagrant pagoda]

i mean same issue with steamvr

if you dont want controllers bound to headsets

i have 6 steam resicers

lol

[pale sigil]

True

[pale sigil]

I guess I just don't miss sensors

Lol

[marsh glade]

I could use a powered hub

Someone send me a few links so I can impulse buy 😛

[pale sigil]

I had still have a powered hub

Just don't use it

[vagrant pagoda]

imagine using spdif with hdmi exists

[astral haven]

3.5 optical spdif >>>>> toslink

[astral haven]

lmao screw that

[gusty kiln]

Most people use usb dacs

[vagrant pagoda]

imagine using compressed audio instead of pcm

[frozen ingot]

https://www.proshop.dk/USB-hub/I-Tec-USB-30-Charging-HUB-7-port-Power-Adapter-36-W-USB-hub-7-ports-Graa/2851678

very happy with that one

[astral haven]

🪞
toslink is uncompressed lel

[vagrant pagoda]

only stereo

[frozen ingot]

same model can also be had in 10 and 16 ports

[vagrant pagoda]

and 48khz

[frozen ingot]

this one has been super stable

[vagrant pagoda]

get better cables and hubs

[astral haven]

negatory

[frozen ingot]

heck my G29 works even more reliably via the hub than directly into the mobo

[vagrant pagoda]

mine are all plugable brand, no issues

[astral haven]

toslink can carry uncompressed 8 channel 192khz

[vagrant pagoda]

out of spec

[pale sigil]

I have loads of ports nown

[vagrant pagoda]

iu can transmit it over a coat hanger if i wanted to

[astral haven]

nope its fully within spec

[pale sigil]

And also I only use

Keyboard, mic, mouse and apple dongle

[astral haven]

its a pro audio standard that many boards dont support called ADAT

[frozen ingot]

this one remains powered when you shut off your system

so can still power usb lamps or other gadgets, or charge devices (although not very quickly)

[pale sigil]

I mean I hope so if its plugged into the wall

[vagrant pagoda]

that isnt toslink hen

[astral haven]

but my computer supports pcm at 192khz 32b

[frozen ingot]

I've had wonky hubs before but those were passive ones

had this one for about a year now and not a single hiccup so far

[astral haven]

its literally an expansion of the toslink standard
like higher channel count audio over hdmi lmao

[marsh glade]

😦
That's not NL

[frozen ingot]

[marsh glade]

Maaaaansennnnnn halp

[pale sigil]

To be honest, Im probably going to need a decent hub when I move room.

I plan to have my pc far away from my desk

[vagrant pagoda]

actual toslink is only 3.1 mbit in spec

[gusty kiln]

Do a linus with thunderbolt

[astral haven]

yet literally everyone supports expansions on that standard

[vagrant pagoda]

still isnt in spec

lol

[astral haven]

every single realtek chip supports 192k

[frozen ingot]

you can find them elsewhere, iirc amazon has them too

[astral haven]

its in spec for optical spdif

toslink is a subset of that sure, but its still within a standard

[pale sigil]

XD

[frozen ingot]

digital out is the only acceptable use for the internal realtek

[vagrant pagoda]

hdmi can do 7.1 at 192khz 24bit

[astral haven]

besides
you dont really need more than supporting both 48 and 44.1

[astral haven]

compressed

[vagrant pagoda]

nope

pcm

[frozen ingot]

I run 48 on my system with an rme interface

is fine

[astral haven]

pcm is 2 channels 192 32b

besides

find a single even remotely decent dac that supports hdmi

[frozen ingot]

I thought the audio was carried over digitally in hdmi ports

[vagrant pagoda]

every high end reciver or dolby/dtx decoder

[astral haven]

gotta remember that the hdmi ports on decent dacs are for i2s not actual hdmi

[gusty kiln]

There is a 800 dac from smsl

[astral haven]

ah but those are processors
and surround processors exclusively have terrible dacs

[gusty kiln]

With hdmi

[frozen ingot]

am really not adept on that standard tho

[astral haven]

are you sure its for hdmi audio
or is it i2s

[gusty kiln]

Lemme check

[astral haven]

i2s allows for 1mhz+ audio with high bit depth but it is noooooot using the hdmi standard

[gusty kiln]

Oh yeah it's is2

[astral haven]

its actually using the video wires of the hdmi cables, not the side band data lines

[gusty kiln]

Nice to see newer dacs with usbc now

Though big boy dac still use usb ab

[vagrant pagoda]

most dont have dac, they use external dacs

[astral haven]

as far as I know, the only current method of staying within the digital realm for audio mixing using computer ports is by somehow converting to toslink, or by piping stuff into software (which adds latency)

[astral haven]

name 1

and by that i mean one that doesnt use an internal surround processor chip, then internally convert back to a digital standard

[vagrant pagoda]

mine is a arvus

[pale sigil]

Nothing should be using micro USB or other bs anymore

[vagrant pagoda]

it decocdes to pcm

[astral haven]

pic

ill bet that you are paying well over a grand and not getting a dac if you want new

[vagrant pagoda]

it isnt a dac

it just decodes

[astral haven]

so my point still stands

tho i am curious, i would like something that can convert hdmi to several stereo toslink

so pics pls

[vagrant pagoda]

aes3 is the same tech

just over xlr

[astral haven]

yes but its not a dac
still provide pic of what you are using bc i do want one

i use a motu lp32 and i would love to see if i can expand my system with more channels, and it would be sweet to be able to use native hdmi, since i use my chromecast alot

and my hdmi to toslink adapter is hot garbo

[vagrant pagoda]

i have a Mytek dac for my front 2 channels

and some china dacs for the rest

[astral haven]

what model arvus?

[vagrant pagoda]

7.1 one

so 8 channel

bought it from a theater

with my amps

[astral haven]

oh dear

[vagrant pagoda]

they actually threw it in not knowing what it was

[astral haven]

was about to ask if you know the original price

so lol no

[vagrant pagoda]

yeah

i know

they didnt know what it was

i paid less than the retail for the decoder for the amps

was a stack of old yamaha power amps

sadly none of the cool ones with vu meters

built like tanks though

[astral haven]

ye

[vagrant pagoda]

id kill for a like p2200

[astral haven]

im headphones and iems only

[vagrant pagoda]

to go with them

[astral haven]

speakers are kinda too big and variable for my liking/living situation

[vagrant pagoda]

look at that sexy beast

[astral haven]

sweet lel

[vagrant pagoda]

one day

[astral haven]

probably needs new vacuum tubes /s

[frozen ingot]

yamaha from that era look dope as heck

[gusty kiln]

https://www.pcworld.com/article/1470136/amds-screaming-new-ryzen-x3d-chips-get-february-launch-date.html

Rip all those thumbnail potential

[vagrant pagoda]

i almost bought a mx-2000 before i went surround

and i hate that i didnt still

prob the best looking transistor/mosfet power amp ever made

[gusty kiln]

What speakers are you running

It won't be on v day

Shame they didn't do radeon vii on 7/7

But it would have been even more DOA

At that point

[astral haven]

i know they mentioned it then

[vagrant pagoda]

ns 500s

they are bi-amped

[ashen spindle]

could still be before or after the 14th, all they really said is the launch date that was on the specs isn't them announcing it

[gusty kiln]

51 lb each

Chonk

[ashen spindle]

but I do think they probably planned to launch it on that day but maybe cant

[gusty kiln]

MS need more time

[astral haven]

also vii more stands for Vega II

[vagrant pagoda]

yeah 10 in woofer

[ashen spindle]

yeah thats why they did the radeon vii in february, matching the dates there too

[gusty kiln]

Ah

[vagrant pagoda]

ns 1000's for surrounds

not the monitor ones though

just the cheaper surround sound ones

and my center is a pair of ns-10s in one cabnit

[gusty kiln]

The CEO of EVGA probably has the most gigachad speaker set up

[astral haven]

lol no

[vagrant pagoda]

i plan on moving the 1000s to actual 1000s

[astral haven]

just one of the most expensive

[vagrant pagoda]

but they knock offs look the part

yeah its these

https://audio-database.com/YAMAHA/speaker/ns-1000mm.html

i have the stands in storage

[astral haven]

the most gigachad speaker setup is the guy who has an absolutely massive array that is mostly custom built

[gusty kiln]

Got a pic?

I remember someone making a speaker out of a shit ton of hd600 drivers

[astral haven]

https://www.youtube.com/@kenfritz3813/videos

[gusty kiln]

[vagrant pagoda]

https://audio-database.com/YAMAHA/speaker/ns-1000m.html

one day

they go for almost 1000 a speaker these days though

[gusty kiln]

Damn, literal towers

[vagrant pagoda]

yeah its nuts

[tropic nacelle]

A grand a speaker isn't that outrageous

[gusty kiln]

I remember a Japanese guy paying the electric company for a dedicated power line for his audio equipment

[gusty kiln]

I was talking about the video

[vagrant pagoda]

i paid less for all 8 of my speakers than a pair of those

lol

and prob get 90% of the sound q

[gusty kiln]

I wish i had the space and privacy for speakers

[tropic nacelle]

Depends what you quantify as 90% of it, need mass for bigger impact along with drivers.

I spent a fair bit on my arendal sound setup and can't fault it, it's not a grand a speaker but wasn't far off xD

[vagrant pagoda]

granted i have recabed all of them with actual wood

[gusty kiln]

Planar magnetic speakers look cool

[astral haven]

ah man im so hype, my car is on the way

getting an old leaf

[vagrant pagoda]

nice

[astral haven]

insurance is crazy expensive like dang

[vagrant pagoda]

first car?

[astral haven]

first that i own and pay for

[vagrant pagoda]

azh

it will go down in 6mo then

[astral haven]

?

you mean get cheaper?

yep

[vagrant pagoda]

yeah

[astral haven]

but i just happened to find a 2013 leaf with over 80% battery life remaining

[vagrant pagoda]

but yeah it sucks being young

just get old

then its like $20 a month for a 90s shit box with no safety features

[astral haven]

literally every single other one ive found is under 60% battery health

[astral haven]

well yes
safety features do decrease the price of insurance sometimes

regardless its a pain to keep borrowing cars

[gusty kiln]

Are you going to install a charger at home?

[astral haven]

nope

no need

[vagrant pagoda]

no i mean i have a 90s shit box with no safety features

and my insurance is 20 bucks

[astral haven]

there was a free dryer outlet which can provide alot more than the car can handle, but im not even gonna use it

[gusty kiln]

[vagrant pagoda]

because im old

[astral haven]

ah

well a 90s shitbox also probably doesnt cost much to total lel

[astral haven]

i bought a fancy pants 20 amp 50 foot extension cable lel

[gusty kiln]

Jeez

[vagrant pagoda]

insruacing is mostly for who you hit

not when you get hit

[astral haven]

yep but the cost of totalling the car is factored in

[vagrant pagoda]

adding coverage for my car was like $2

the rest is liability

[astral haven]

lel ye

well im under 100 a month total

and thats with comprehensive which im probably gonna remove soon

[vagrant pagoda]

yeah

if its your first solo insurace

it will drop a lot in 6mo withouth accidents

the best thing to do

is dashcam

[astral haven]

ive been on my parents insurance for over a year at the same company

[vagrant pagoda]

front and rear

[astral haven]

first thing i plan on installing lel

getting one of those digital rear view mirrors with dashcam functionality

[vagrant pagoda]

i love my rearview one

yeah

[astral haven]

what model do you have?

starvis is just a product line

its been around like 8 years+

[vagrant pagoda]

i habe this

https://amzn.com/dp/B0811Q28N6

[astral haven]

you know the res or the sensor on the rear camera?

and does it work with 256gb cards?

ah sad 1080p

[vagrant pagoda]

the rear is 1080

they are analog

i want to upgrade to this

https://amzn.com/dp/B08L9C1XC3

but the front cam is lower

but they are both usb

so i wonder if i can just get a better camera

[astral haven]

interesting

yea im not so interested in a me cam, but it looks pretty good, might get one of the lower models with just 2 cams

[vagrant pagoda]

also @prisma crag i think all the starvis 2 cams are 200+

and no one makes a rearview one

[ashen spindle]

https://twitter.com/IanCutress/status/1613609998386331673

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[crisp granite]

inb4 Detroit

[vagrant pagoda]

but yeah

[crisp granite]

Very exotic, you can really smell the rotting carcass of the American dream

[vagrant pagoda]

you can get 2k+2k dash cams

or 4k+1k

dont think any of the chipsets will do 4k+2k or 4k+4k

also all the 4k ones are 30fps

unless there is a brand new one

lol

all the duis

fam this is a keyboard server

[gusty kiln]

Lol what happened

[astral haven]

🔨 Banned

[gusty kiln]

Damn missed it

The whole 12pin thing was only for the 4090 right?

[astral haven]

the burning 12 pins yes

[gusty kiln]

Thanks

[crisp granite]

Oh what the fuck

[astral haven]

but the 3090 and ti had 12 pins that didnt burn

[crisp granite]

The logs are a MESS

[ashen spindle]

the 4080 likely also has it just nobody has a 4080

[gusty kiln]

[astral haven]

also remember they only burned if you didnt seat the connector properly

[gusty kiln]

Surely the 4070ti is safe

[ashen spindle]

ehh

maybe

[gusty kiln]

Cuz this will always be a small fear going forward with nvidia gpus

[crisp granite]

Safely overpriced and out of reach

[gusty kiln]

[astral haven]

the defect was that it is very very difficult to seat the cable properly
just make sure the latch is over the hook and you are good

[gusty kiln]

Might buy those 3d printed cable support too if i do get a 40 series

[ashen spindle]

future revisions hopefully have a revised connector

[gusty kiln]

Yeah

[tropic nacelle]

It's a poorly designed connector, human error that can happen easily is a bad design really.

Mine was fully seated but can be removed and didn't click, physically no gap in the two blocks so it's seated as far as possible.

Definitely a bad adapter spec either through manufacturing or the actual design doesn't allow for enough tolerance

[astral haven]

nah the housing bends
you need to press rather hard and put some upward force to get the latch to set

[tropic nacelle]

It physically cannot go in more, I have put significantly more force on the connector and it's impossible as there is no more give.

I can easily see how people have unseated it enough to be a problem through basic cable management after install

[astral haven]

its not downward pressure

[tropic nacelle]

The only give possible would be the connector popping off xD

[astral haven]

are your cables bending up away from the gpu or hanging down?

[astral haven]

the cable itself has some give

[tropic nacelle]

Bending up a bit, I put it in without the side panel on its own as I was aware of this issue

[astral haven]

its just like a 24 pin

[astral haven]

pic of the latch?

[tropic nacelle]

Not at pc at the moment and it's not much room on the FE

I did look all around and it's fully seated, it's plastic on plastic so cannot go further in

[astral haven]

so is my 24 pin yet you still need to push on the lever to get it to click

[tropic nacelle]

It can only click if there is room for it to go further in though

[astral haven]

plastic is not a perfect rigid body

at a minimum the lever itself will have some give

[tropic nacelle]

Sorry what do you mean by lever? It's pins and a hook no?

[astral haven]

hook is on gpu

[tropic nacelle]

Let's just say this, wasn't a problem on 8 pin cables, not a problem on the 3080 fe 12 pin cable but is a problem on this 4090

[astral haven]

theres a sort of straight plastic peice with a hook on the end on the cable that i call a lever

[tropic nacelle]

I will have another look when I'm at the pc thanks

I have it evened out and it can't come out unless I moved cables but if I didn't know to look I wouldn't have taken noticed

[astral haven]

yep

again the issue with the 40 series is the connector doesnt latch properly

it requires going out of your way to connect it properly

[tropic nacelle]

Yeah that's why I mean it's poorly designed or bad manufacturing tolerance.

It's not just a catch all for human error as it shouldn't require that much effort to secure

[wheat plume]

oh no...not again https://youtu.be/lLN-KzBJQig

[crisp granite]

mmm yeah
the best bass is the kind that makes the whole stadium shake

[wheat plume]

Apparently in the last video he made about the Crushers, some people's headphones broke during the sound demo.... from too much bass

he mentioned it again in this video

ahah

[gusty kiln]

https://www.reddit.com/r/headphones/comments/109vn1f/fiio_r7/

FiiO with this monstrosity

[misty saffron]

i have a great question

why doesn’t cash include any security features like nfc tags

with a read only message signed by the government

[ashen spindle]

you mean why dont they add that into paper money?

[misty saffron]

yes

[ashen spindle]

cost I imagine but idk

[astral haven]

because they cost moeney

[misty saffron]

but on the upside you’re basically ending counterfeiting

[reef patrol]

Because no one wants to deal with paper money.

[astral haven]

plastic and metal strips can basically do that too

nfc is literally data storage, metal and plastic strips can also do that

[misty saffron]

nfc tags chosen for the ease of verification in my case

also they’re piss cheap

[astral haven]

they are nowhere near as cheap as paper currency is supposed to be

[misty saffron]

honestly i’m very much unsure if the cost is the reason

given we still use coins

[astral haven]

coins are relatively cheap too

their security comes from the difficulty of replicating them cheaply

but a coin that costs $50 to create needs to be created out of eeeexpensive materials

btw paper money is easy to verify

you need 1 motor, some rollers, a uv line source and a line sensor

• controller chip

[reef patrol]

And a pen with certain ingredients to check in person in retail.

[astral haven]

more expensive than an nfc reader obviously

[astral haven]

nah my retail store had those readers

[reef patrol]

Most don't 😄

[astral haven]

they are very very cheap

[reef patrol]

Only supermarkets will have machines that slurp money here. Everything else is oldschool in Denmark.

[misty saffron]

i am very unsure how it works but in my mind there definitely should be a way to counterfeit it well enough when it starts offsetting the costs

[reef patrol]

The pens are generally only used in touristy areas when there's suspicion

[astral haven]

probably depends on the price level
our store would sell you > 1k items with cash

[misty saffron]

also the problem of corrupt governments printing other currencies yada yada

[astral haven]

for coins it requires a mint sized operation
for cash its actually hard to fake a strip
and the "paper" that they use for cash is tightly regulated and very costly to produce

and the metal and plastics have so many security features that its hard to wrap your mind around

[reef patrol]

Our secret is : We don't really use paper money

[astral haven]

thats the most effective way to do it

but here in soverign citizen land its not really an option

[misty saffron]

i hope that never happens in my lifetime worldwide at least

i do like my anonymity sometimes

[reef patrol]

Is your phone on while you go anywhere?

[astral haven]

this lel

[misty saffron]

i meant anonymity with receiving and spending money, obviously

[astral haven]

same story

[reef patrol]

I sure hope you turned off wifi completely, BT et cetera. Because modern routers can and will track your pings, and chains create shadow profiles just like Facebook and friends.

Yes- Apple's random key stuff helps. But for how long 😄

[astral haven]

a single cell tower using mmimo can track your exact location to a single building
two cell towers can pinpoint you within a building

[misty saffron]

still not sure how that relates to a person not knowing who i am when sending money to me

[reef patrol]

We were talking about shopping here - Using paper money. Which is not as anonymous of an experience as you'd like to think.

[astral haven]

^

and if you are receiving the money
checks

cashiers checks exist and are generally free at the bank

[misty saffron]

i’m talking about the fun feature of withdrawing money using qr codes at any atm

[astral haven]

🤷 i really think we should move to cashiers checks for big transactions
and theres nothing wrong with the current system for small transactions

[reef patrol]

So a thing that happens maybe once a decade is your reasoning to keep paper money? 🤔

[astral haven]

the phone doesnt need internet to handle the transaction
it just performs a challenge response

[reef patrol]

Then your country isn't ready to give up physical currency clearly

[astral haven]

*state

[frozen ingot]

that's pretty much extinct here

[astral haven]

thats also true here where literally everyone is less than a mile from a cell tower

its called tax evasion

[ashen spindle]

don't think something meant for something in the city or in high traffic moments is something that people want to push unto those cases where you have one sale a day either

[astral haven]

thats verifiably untrue lel

california

and debit not credit

still a card

was it specifically legalized within your state?

cali is recreational allowed

probably bc the tech companies that handle the transactions are across state lines?

lel nice

Ive never actually been to one myself but come to think of it it may have been an atm in the store

actually im pretty sure that was it

[gusty kiln]

https://i.gyazo.com/8b0c45991c8f84dede9f5aca43c64e03.jpg

[final flame]

interesting...

[tropic nacelle]

Listed as a known issue by AMD and the person even came back to say they improved by removing Nvidia, ALWAYS use DDU if changing GPU manufacturer (I'd say even new GPU. Really).

It's the same when you change platform from Intel to AMD or vice versa, windows is terrible at managing this change so a lot of problems tend to stem from refusing to reinstall on a platform change as something is left over and conflicting.

Still think AMD needs to focus more on VR performance in general. Oculus link not working is probably more on Oculus/Meta as they need to update it and it launched over the holidays.

[tropic nacelle]

Oo company of heroes 3 is now listed as a bundle for the west on some ryzen 5000 series like the x3d... Mighty tempting now £340 with a game I want.

Must hold for Zen 4 x3d reviews

[ashen spindle]

https://twitter.com/MSFT365Status/status/1613871552256155649

Microsoft 365 Status (@MSFT365Status)

We're investigating an issue where users are unable to access application shortcuts on the Start menu and Taskbar in Windows. For more details and updates, please follow the SI MO497128 in your admin center.

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Twitter · Jan 13, 2023, 12:12 PM

lololol

defender rule update deleted all shortcuts

[wheat plume]

pls update

[tropic nacelle]

@ashen spindle what a joke! This is why I genuinely hate the start menu these days, I don't want these silly integrations I want a basic app listing that doesn't need to be checked by things.

I miss windows 7 or even 10 for this simple 'just works" setup. Windows 11 feels like such a step back overall in terms of stability and just speed, at least for me.

[ashen spindle]

thats not a win11 thing, affected 10 too

that is just the result of not having QA anymore

[reef patrol]

"10 and 11 has shitty integrations"

Hold my beer said Windows 7 - WIDGETS

[tropic nacelle]

Nothing wrong with widgets that's a choice. The fact my start menu has ads by default and somehow search doesn't always go local it wastes time looking online before it gives me the SETTING I'm looking for !

Forgot windows 10 added it, bad memory. I miss windows 7 the most, as you say QA is just gone.

[vagrant pagoda]

Bring back widgets!

[pale sigil]

Third party ones were fun

But let's not remove credit from vista here

[vagrant pagoda]

I loved them when I still used my desktop

[tropic nacelle]

Vista was a diamond in the rough, I liked it and it was the foundation change needed for windows.

Shame it got all the hate because hardware manufacturers were not happy with providing drivers and system builders were skimping on system specs for so long the basic consumer was shocked stuff changed!

[vagrant pagoda]

Eh

Vista didn't add anything that was needed enough over XP

64bit in the early Vista days was rough

And I had xp64!

[pale sigil]

Disagree

Vista was a nice jump

But it got hated more than it deserved lol

[marsh glade]

A nice jump into a tar pit

The only good thing about Vista was say hasta la Vista baby

[tropic nacelle]

I mean compared to XP it was vastly better assuming you were on reasonable hardware.

The problem was the initial 6 months or so with printer manufacturers and everyone else kicking off and being very slow with drivers . They don't like change.

It was a necessary evil, it was a big transitional shift that led to windows 7 which is peak windows (imo).

[plush summit]

Does anyone know how to delete a corrupt leaf on a btrfs file system?

[crimson wigeon]

rm it, or btrfs check it, or btrfsck it

[marsh glade]

Gezondheid

[plush summit]

I can't mount it so I can't remove it

[crimson wigeon]

Then give it the check, or the fsck. I zink the check is what one should be using these-a-days

[plush summit]

I've checked it and there's 2 ref mismatches and 2 backpointerosmatches

[crimson wigeon]

Yeah, so if you're feeling lucky rerun the check with --repair and hope it doesn't blow up

[plush summit]

Is there a safe way to do this instead of using repair cuz I have read that's just going to kill it

Ideally I'd like to mount it and then delete those files

[crimson wigeon]

Try playing with the mount options like usebackuproot or others Iunno. For the record I've had to do the check repair a couple times and it has never ruined any filesystem for me

[plush summit]

What have I got to lose I guess

i know what caused the issues

if you use a USB cable to connect a point and shoot camera in linux mint 20.1 and then attempt to make an archive from the files on the camera to the desktop then a corrupt file gets created

[crimson wigeon]

Nice

[lean kestrel]

Anyone have a decent mod tap setting for a quick and easy ~

[plush summit]

amazing small bug

disasterous conciquences

[crimson wigeon]

Yeah, would hope it's already fixed though since that's an old version of a distro that uses ancient packages

[plush summit]

the problem is that newer versions of mint prevent me from using wifi

network manager doesnt work after every other reboot

so ive been using wicd

[crimson wigeon]

Interesting

[plush summit]

it did not work

the tool sigsegv while running making the fs worse

the good news is that with some trickery you can use readonly

the bad news is that the fs is mostlikely bricked

[crimson wigeon]

And that's why I hate LTS or even just regular release distros, stuck with ancient buggy versions of things

[plush summit]

I wasn't using LTS

I switched to modern versions of kernels

But I was still stuck with the backport packages

[crimson wigeon]

Also thought you were an Archie

[plush summit]

i am

but i also use mint

[crimson wigeon]

Oh

[plush summit]

i have 2 systems with arch and one with mint

[rich juniper]

quick question guys, i purchased the wooting 60he from a 3rd party, he said he had 3, although the box says "ARM version is there anyway to tell if it is and wasnt switched up? thanks in advance

[true quest]

genius

[reef patrol]

Plugging it in and seeing ARM in Wootility.

[rich juniper]

i see it great thanks!

[reef patrol]

If you open up Wootility and look in Settings, it shows you the SN and MCU type. 🙂

[crisp granite]

Still waiting for Corsair to make higher voltage versions of their SF line

The one Corsair product I actually would buy

[hardy pollen]

I just bought the new Seasonic Vertex PSU. It's on preorder right now

expensive af for a psu. But im gonna be running some mean hardware over the years

[reef patrol]

Only gold? Goddamn

That IS pricy

[tropic nacelle]

I was looking for a 1kw PSU and was hoping the vertext PX was out by now but it's been delayed and now the price is way higher than it should be so I've decided to wait and see what other new PSU comes out this year.

Ok I bought the 5800x3d, Amazon France has it for €350 which is only £315 for the UK imported. Good price with company of heroes .

Now incan put my head in the sand for the next few years on CPU releases haha

[hardy pollen]

i would probably see if corsair releases a similar ATX 3.0 PSU. I was wanting the PX version as well

[tropic nacelle]

Yeah I think that will be what I keep an eye out for, I would prefer to spend less than £200 but I'll pay a little more if it's very good.

Gotta wait for reviews so I avoid impulse buying and see what's best when it finally comes out as they all have a few atx3.0 designs to come.

Hope the seasonic is solid for you(as they usually are!)

[pale sigil]

I missed that sadly.

It dropped down to like £280 once

EU is still a lot cheaper for a 5800X3D

Oh btw @ashen spindle amd sent me a new CPU instantly

Forgot to mention that I've noticed a bunch of issues go away.... Even stuff like moonlight being a bit unstable, windows behind a bit struggle bus when playing games and some other stuff.

[wet gyro]

Anyone know about bias lighting? I work and game at my desk basically 12 hours a day maybe more. The room is dark to avoid glare. My monitors are stacked vertically. I recently upgrade my main display to an LG C2 OLED. I was thinking about adding bias lighting to the back. Guess my question is how I go about it. I throw bias lighting on both monitors so as to create bias lighting beyond all screens. The real question is if power both bias strips from the main display? That way if I use the display as a tv from bed (bedroom is also my office) so I get the most bias lighting?

[frozen ingot]

it'll be bulletproof though its seasonic

[wheat plume]

https://news.itsfoss.com/coolermaster-open-source-software/

oooo nice!!

wait, this is only for their coolers and not their keyboard and mice?? ;-;

damn it

[tropic nacelle]

how have ytou missed it? https://www.amazon.fr/AMD-Ryzen-5800X-Cache-Ventilateur/dp/B09VCJ2SHD/ref=sr_1_1?__mk_fr_FR=ÅMÅŽÕÑ&crid=2XKTL5B3RBFY2&keywords=5800x+3d&qid=1673637029&sprefix=5800x3d%2Caps%2C69&sr=8-1

its still there 🙂

cheapest ive seen was £310 before blackfriday last year from france so this is decent

[pale sigil]

prob getting mixed up

the time i meant i missed totalled like 290

@crisp granite @shadow minnow My sister, yanno the die hard IPhone fan? slags off androind left and right for years because of her one plus is now liking Android

[surreal shard]

copp

Seems like we all love the 5800x3d

[pale sigil]

Aint that 330 on ebuyer

oh out of stock

[still loom]

£340 and it's in stock

[pale sigil]

oooft

maybe it was a sale

@surreal shard https://www.ebuyer.com/1421650-amd-ryzen-7-5800x-3d-processor-100-100000651wof

i would suggest going this route

instead of buying off a third party seller

[surreal shard]

I trust them ig

I couldn’t trust technextday, they were 335 but i was discouraged by the reviews

[wheat plume]

Archcraft looks really pretty

OpenBox

[pale sigil]

Its dispatched by amazon tbf

[tropic nacelle]

I wouldn't get the one from Amazon UK as they aren't on the list of retailers so you don't get company of heroes 3.

If you get it from AWD-IT for £340 they are on the list but AMAZON FRANCE is also on the list so best to order from FR as it's all covered anyway

[tropic nacelle]

Yeah that one, I use my Monzo card so it was £316 delivered. Pretty solid deal!

[pale sigil]

Monzo? hmm

AWD-IT are so bad with rma

like really bad

[pale sigil]

Never heard of them tbh

[ashen spindle]

if its handled by amazon they cover it so wouldnt matter

[pale sigil]

You mean like Wooting

Until last year

[tropic nacelle]

Digital bank, MasterCard exchange rate or one of the best.

[pale sigil]

I just use revoult

[tropic nacelle]

Yeah I have both but revolut added fees in the end so stopped using it, it's been going downhill for awhile (in my opinion), the exchange rate seems better on Monzo for total.

Either way both are better than most mainstream banks or Amazon's own currency conversion

[still loom]

Revolut don't have fees for exchanges

Wise do

Or formerly TransferWise

[still loom]

Depending on how much you spend, apparently 😂

£1000 is free to exchange per month

[tropic nacelle]

0.5% on 1k apparently

[still loom]

Over 1k

I have a metal plan so I don't get fees, just the monthly charge 🙂

The monthly fee for Metal is worth it as all Irish banks charge for everything in your normal bank

[tropic nacelle]

Ah I don't pay, I couldn't find the benefit same as Monzo plus it doesn't seem worth it.

My NatWest one has some small fee but you get money back by just opening the app to check balance once a month and 1 payment so you end up with net gain and bonuses

[still loom]

i.e. my quarterly fees for my irish bank is around 50 euros

And I barely use it

So Revolut Metal >

[tropic nacelle]

That makes more sense then, I'm in England so a bit different!

[still loom]

Yeah UK banks are free for personal use

That is not normal worldwide though

[tropic nacelle]

Is it not? TIL then, I assumed base bank usage was free as they make money off of loans etc.

[still loom]

Nah, most countries charge for everything

Even withdrawing money from any ATMs

Yes, withdrawing your own money costs

[ashen spindle]

at least here they only charge for a withdraw is it from another banks atm

[still loom]

Countries like Japan you would go to your bank and they will charge you like $5 just to withdraw money

So some countries have really high fees, some low, very few have no fees like UK 😂

So count yourself lucky

[pale sigil]

@still loom@tropic nacellethere is a fee

I know this because i buy in a different currency every month, usually its 0.5%

but their exchange rate is good

https://www.revolut.com/currency-converter/

[still loom]

Up to 1000 euro is free, it's 0.5% thereafter

For normal and plus plans

Metal and Premium have no fee

[pale sigil]

yes, normal and plus

[still loom]

But do you really need to spend over 1000 euro of currency outside your country per month? 😅

If so then maybe look at another option

[pale sigil]

ohhh i see

weekends cost you

[tropic nacelle]

I spent 6k in a month in euros. Yes, sometimes xD

[pale sigil]

Ok so ye its free weekdays

1.5% weekends

[tropic nacelle]

Yeah they were pretty much the same and onpar usually and might be thinking of the weekend fee that you highlighted.

It's not bad I just ended up opening a few accounts and kept with Monzo while I have revolut open to compare sometimes.

[pale sigil]

": Revolut will now charge you a 1% fee on exchanges made over the weekend."

Lol

Now i know not to use it during the weekend

[still loom]

Well you get 1% cashback on every purchase with a Metal Plan so that would pay for the monthly fee

And you would have free money to spend

[pale sigil]

depends on if its worth it

the fee is quite large

[still loom]

The fee is 13.99 I believe

60 euros, you would still be up

Yeah 13.99 euro my metal fee is

And cashback pays for that

Mostly xD

Well it's 0.1% for everything in EU, 1% for everything out of EU xD

Depends where you are spending your money I guess

[pale sigil]

You need to spend a decent amount to profit from it

[still loom]

I think it's capped at the plan fee 😂 So at best you will just get 13.99 or whatever but free exchange rates

[pale sigil]

damn son

master card exchange rate is decent indeed

£1 = €1.1272 revoult
1.00 GBP = 1.13 EUR mastercard

So not that big but still

[pale sigil]

Thing is, you need to spend min 1.5k a month to pay for it.

on cash back

[still loom]

My exchange rate from £1 to euro on Revolut is 1.15

Sorry was looking at the wrong way around xD

It's 1.1318

[pale sigil]

on what

[still loom]

Revolut

[still loom]

Mine says 1.1318 up there xD

[pale sigil]

refresh maybe

[tropic nacelle]

What? Mine says what pleasant has

[pale sigil]

im on a paid plan

[tropic nacelle]

Probably was .13 earlier today or something

[still loom]

It's refreshed

[pale sigil]

are you from the UK

oh you are buying GB

it will be different buying vs selling based on your currency

[still loom]

If I switch it it says buy EUR

[still loom]

And it's £0.8872 per Euro

[pale sigil]

Ye i think its purely based on how or what currency being used

[still loom]

Ok xD

Weird

[pale sigil]

life is weird

Nothing is not normal

@ashen spindle know of a good way to clone OS without removing drive to another drive over usb?

I know you can but software is meh

[ashen spindle]

uhh

no clue

[pale sigil]

Last software i used required you to boot into OS, i haven't done cloning via usb in YEARS

[ashen spindle]

never cloned anything

[pale sigil]

freeware

@reef patrol babe?

[reef patrol]

I don't do freeware.

Acronis has definitely paid itself off though.

[pale sigil]

i wouldn't use it enough to justify

Actually

i have windows 2 go

so i could use that on the laptop

https://kb.macrium.com/knowledgebasearticle50210.aspx

nvm

nvm again

its saying what i just said

https://clonezilla.org/liveusb.php

such a shame this ssd died

i could rma but couldn't find the reciept lol

[pale sigil]

I hate HP laptops

And this is why you don't let family touch your laptop

I stopped using it years ago and pretty much everyone adopted it

Was a good buy though

£250 8GB ram/i5 6600u

1080p screen

Which at the time 720 was still very common

Had to put my own SSD tho

[reef patrol]

Looks like a pretty solid in the DVD era.

[crisp granite]

720p screens ain't bad

[pale sigil]

It was SanDisk but

[crisp granite]

my previous laptop had...768p?

[pale sigil]

I put in an 850 Evo

[crisp granite]

some weird ass res

[pale sigil]

It was bad my side

Dude

Very bad

[pale sigil]

It really was

I got it via uni so I saved on vat and they used a special vendor

But I used it for 3 months and replaced it with an iPad

It same with windows pro which was awesome

Tbh it's still a decent kit

https://support.hp.com/us-en/product/hp-250-g5-notebook-pc/10180321/document/c05078579

Intel Core i5-6200U

But CPU kinda held me back

It was so annoying though, they wouldn't give me the extra ram module, it came with 4gb.

They had to get an "engineer" out... When he arrived he just looked at me when he noticed I already replaced the SSD.

Like I was taking his job lol

[reef patrol]

https://tenor.com/view/am-ia-joke-to-you-laugh-stock-joker-i-kid-you-not-owl-gif-16641981

[pale sigil]

Yes

[crisp granite]

yes

without a doubt

mansen you are a joke

[reef patrol]

[crisp granite]

we still like ya

somewhat
don't test your luck

[reef patrol]

[tropic nacelle]

1080 was the bomb back in the day, I hated everything having 768 it was awful.

I got a dell Inspiron 7520 back when I started uni in 2012, it was the best laptop I owned and it was back when dell outlet was decent. "Scratch and dent" £325 delivered, I took a punt and there was no marks, 1080p screen with an i7-3612QM which at the time was pretty beefy.

That got me through my software dev degree with ease haha. Still find laptops at 768 and it pains me.

[empty wren]

Si señor

[wheat plume]

I wish discord gave an option to still open the app if there is an update available

cause now I have to add this to it so I can use the app for the few days the update takes to reach the repo

[crimson wigeon]

Isn't that something the packager should do anyway?

[wheat plume]

you would think so

but no

even Arch repos are sometimes a few days out of date to push the update

so without doing this, you cant use discord for a few days until the update gets pushed

[crimson wigeon]

Arch omegalul

[wheat plume]

Other than Fedora, I dont really use any other distro

Why does China Discord's app look way better than the real Discord app? :')

[reef patrol]

It does?

[wheat plume]

I tihnk so

[reef patrol]

I see... one difference? That obnoxious "slimey" connector between the server and the channel bar?

[wheat plume]

I hate this video ... they just invade some random server and troll them and be rude

and the talk indicator in voice calls is better

it highlights the name not just put a green thin circle around the pfp

[reef patrol]

I obviously don't use VC enough to even notice or care 😄

[wheat plume]

same but I like subtle highlights like this rather than barely visible circles around a tiny image

[crimson wigeon]

Still crappy, maybe if they'd invent popouts so you could pop that shit into a separate window it would be something nice

[wheat plume]

why? I only use seperate window if I wanna watvh my friend screen share while doing something else

not during a voice call

[crimson wigeon]

I switch channels, but I still want to see who's talking or who just joined without having to switch back to the disco window, switch channels, maybe scroll, etc

[wheat plume]

oh, enable the overlay

[crimson wigeon]

No the overlay is crappy broken piece of shit

[wheat plume]

I think it works on Linux...maybe

i dont use it

[crimson wigeon]

I have a whole other monitor I don't need stinking overlays

[wheat plume]

true

[pale sigil]

Exactly, truly awful Res.

[fair gull]

because its technically not discord

different servers

and lots of CCP involvement

[wheat plume]

"look" as is the visual style and UI

[fair gull]

yes

[wheat plume]

I know its not official '

[fair gull]

it is all seperate though

[wheat plume]

yeh I know

[fair gull]

its like asking why does guilded.gg look better

[wheat plume]

i say discord cause idk what its name is cause it was in Chinese

[fair gull]

kaiheila

[wheat plume]

o

[fair gull]

as it also should say in screenshots at the top

[reef patrol]

Ehh... it's obviously intended as a clone.

So I don't think the comparison is unfair.

[wheat plume]

it even functions the same

[fair gull]

so

[wheat plume]

well ..the same as an older version of discord anyway

[fair gull]

its guilded but in china

actually thats a lie

guilded is better than discord

[wheat plume]

idk what tjhat is

one sec

The UI for guilded looks like a mix of discord and reddit wtf

[crimson wigeon]

Robloxcord

[wheat plume]

Is this a discord fork?

[sudden coral]

ok guys

so bassicly right

im playing this roblox game

and stuff aint working for me

when i sue my kebyaord

i havve the 360 and all the controller movement stuff urned off

when i put in my actuall ontroller to play it works

[crimson wigeon]

Maybe you shouldn't sue your kebyaord then, unless they/it did something very bad

[sudden coral]

i reached out to the poeple who made the game

and they told me

[reef patrol]

This is exactly the kind of issue you should open a support thread about. (Also stop treating Discord like it's a telegraph station. You can use multiple sentences without hitting STOP 😄

[sudden coral]

the problem might be

a

controller drive

[sudden coral]

i created a thread jsut for you sir and i will do as you say my bad

[vagrant pagoda]

That's an irc habit that I can never get away from

[reef patrol]

You visited the wrong IRC servers, if that's how you wrote. 😄

[vagrant pagoda]

Nah back in the early dialup days if your message was more than a few packets it would get cutoff

Also packetloss was real

[reef patrol]

https://tenor.com/view/deep-magic-lion-witch-narnia-dont-recite-gif-14879671

Shitty internet is shitty more like 😄

[vagrant pagoda]

I remember when I used the my first irc client that had recall

So you could just resend messages

[sudden coral]

none is helping me in the thing

[reef patrol]

I guess that means one of two things.

1. No one around right now who knows how to help.
2. No one knows how to help.

looks at calendar
It's a Saturday afternoon

[pale sigil]

Such a damn good scene

[sudden coral]

ok lets see how long it will take for somone to help me

is the wooting controller movement working via a drive

[cursive summit]

https://www.notebookcheck.net/MINISFORUM-Neptune-HX99G-arrives-with-AMD-Ryzen-9-6900HX-APU-from-US-839.681671.0.html

Not half shit price for basically near top end mobile perf

Small boyos are cute

Cute, the built in iGPU should match the 1660Ti MQ

[fair gull]

#1019755933959733258

[sudden coral]

yes i seen i replied tag me when u reply again

[wheat plume]

Apple got an 8 million Euro fine for illegally collecting iPhone user personal data for targetted advertising

Privacy. That's iPhone.

BS LOL

[shadow minnow]

“It's an unusual sanction for the iPhone maker, which has faced fewer legal penalties over privacy than its Big Tech competitors.”

[thick pine]

How good are Pentium chips for gaming?

[crisp granite]

ABSOLUTE ASS

just buy an older i3 or i5

[wheat plume]

^

[thick pine]

My buddy has an older i7 and wants to upgrade but the only other thing he could use (with current mobo) is Pentium

[wheat plume]

growing body of evidence that Apple may not be the privacy guardian angels it makes itself out to be

[wheat plume]

what gen i7?

[thick pine]

7700K

[crisp granite]

just upgrade mobos at that point

[thick pine]

Yep that’s what I suggested

[crisp granite]

a used AM4 board and 3900X would serve well for not much

[thick pine]

He’s gonna have to go DDR5 tho

So new ram too

[ashen spindle]

no?

[shadow minnow]

Nice poetic verse but still as stated apple despite being the most valued company doesn’t have as many privacy fines, it’s not perfect but much better

[ashen spindle]

why not go ddr4 still

[crisp granite]

AM4 is DDR4 dawg

that and most CPUs that can run DDR5 also can fit in boards that use DDR4

just...save the scratch, use the old ram

[wheat plume]

thats a decent CPU still, upgrade his mobo lol

[crisp granite]

if you need more capacity, buy a used kit

[thick pine]

Homie hit like 95C playing GTA which is his preferred game

[ashen spindle]

that doesnt mean anything

[wheat plume]

Mine gets pretty close to that too

[thick pine]

It’s a little close to the edge

[wheat plume]

well, close to 90C

[ashen spindle]

what matters is does he get too little fps

[thick pine]

Of course lmfaoo

[crisp granite]

if he's just playing an old game from 2015, I wouldn't bother upgrading lol

[thick pine]

On a cpu intensive game

[still loom]

The new AMD CPUs always go to 90/95C

That's how they run

[ashen spindle]

yeah temperature can be high and fps can still be enough so that statement didnt say anything

[fleet sand]

95C in a game sounds kinda high xd

[thick pine]

It is really high

[crisp granite]

inb4 AIO is a decade old and failing

[thick pine]

Imo

[still loom]

It's not high at all on a 7700X

[crisp granite]

either that or a pretty shit tower cooler

[still loom]

It's the normal operating temperature

[crisp granite]

not what we're talking about

[fleet sand]

what if you try to run p95

does the 7700x just thermal throttle

[still loom]

It's always 95

It doesn't go over or under

[thick pine]

It’s liquid but I forgot the brand

[still loom]

Unless idle

[crisp granite]

by design they boost as high as possible

[crisp granite]

assuming it hasn't been replaced since the 7700K was originally installed, I could understand the temps xD

[still loom]

It's literally designed to shoot to 95C and stay there

[crisp granite]

replace the fuckin cooler

[still loom]

Whatever it's doing

The only way you get it under that temp is using liquid nitrogen

[ashen spindle]

or power limit it xD

[thick pine]

Bro I’m talking bout a i7 7700K

[still loom]

Oh I thought you meant AMD xD mb

Well tbf intel CPUs generally run quite hot, but yeah depends on coolers I guess

[crisp granite]

liquid cooler is probably in really rough shape assuming it's been serving since day one in the build...6 ish years ago
probably best to replace it

[ashen spindle]

yes and temperature is high but that still doesnt mean it is a reason to upgrade, the fps it gets is the reason xD

[thick pine]

Oh no it’s relatively new, he got it built last year

[crisp granite]

...

wtf