🔌│tech

[astral haven]

Yea top laptop chip available

Oh my b

Yea I'm bad with apples bs

10 core arm vs 8 core amd

And 12 core intel

[gusty kiln]

which one is the dual silicon?

[astral haven]

Or was that 10

[gusty kiln]

max or ultra?

[astral haven]

Both

[gusty kiln]

ahh ok

[astral haven]

The pro is single silicon

[gusty kiln]

so AMD beats all the single silicone mobile chip atm

[astral haven]

Ah yes all of the goo chips

No e

[gusty kiln]

oh wait techpowerup has all the slides

[astral haven]

Missing the blender slide 😦

I don't know much about how to make teleconferencing better
But what I do know is that HP is not the solution

[gusty kiln]

[astral haven]

"magic"

Ah great

That explains why HP can't figure out anything about how to make stable computers

[gusty kiln]

wait where in the stream are you at? talking about the dragonfly laptop atm

[astral haven]

Yea just before that he said that the computers are magic

[gusty kiln]

ah

GAYMEN

[astral haven]

i want more details about the 16 core laptop chip pls

5% faster is not "far beyond what we thought possible"

[gusty kiln]

damn both amd and intel with a 32T mobile chip

[astral haven]

hyp

desktawp

3dvcache yee

[gusty kiln]

120tdp

[astral haven]

104?

what

oh right l2 as well

96mb l3

[gusty kiln]

aww shit

7950X3D

[astral haven]

yeeee

[gusty kiln]

guess those slides were real

[astral haven]

disgusting

ew

[gusty kiln]

time for those AM5 mobo to actually sell

[astral haven]

eh

nah

this is gonna be a disaster

only half of the cores will have vcache

[gusty kiln]

thatsss going to be interesting

MS was on stage so hmmmmm

[astral haven]

what amd calls interesting i call a bug

that could be very very painful

[gusty kiln]

entry level AM5

[astral haven]

as if they ever will release ddr4 boards

[gusty kiln]

gunna be the most naked mobo you'll ever see

[astral haven]

highly disappointing that they arent even going full bore on the cache

[gusty kiln]

maybe for end user pricing?

[astral haven]

thanks discord for not sending anything

oh that went through

-_-

[vagrant pagoda]

How so

[astral haven]

1ccd = 96mb l3

2ccd = 128mb

see something wrong with the math here?

[vagrant pagoda]

Is it single ccd though

[astral haven]

7800x3d is single ccd 96l3

7950x3d is dual ccd 128l3

[vagrant pagoda]

So it's only getting a single v stack yeah

[astral haven]

im actually not sure about that

[vagrant pagoda]

Probably to fix the voltage issues

For boost clocks

[astral haven]

the sample pic shows 2 identical dies

[vagrant pagoda]

Yeah but 96+32 is 128

Zen4 is 32+64 vcache

[gusty kiln]

hmm

[astral haven]

really no idea if they did 32+32 vcache or if they have dummy disabled vcache

[vagrant pagoda]

They are flipped

So wouldn't the stacked be on the bottom

[astral haven]

the vcache is added after the flip

iirc

could be wrong

if its 32mb cache per ccd then its disappointing bc they didnt go all the way

if its 1 ccd having vcache its gonna be janky probably

either way not fun

"first steps on the moon"

uuuuuh

no its not

it literally isnt

in fact the biggest pain point in epyc has been that you outright are unable to directly access cache on different ccxes

well yes

their server cpus are relatively alot better positioned than their client cpus

rats the press release doesnt list if its 32+32 x2 or 32+64 /32+0

im also really confused as to why the 7900x3d has 4mb less cache than the 50x3d

oh right its l2

fkn amd combining l3 and l2

utter bs

[gusty kiln]

was there a launch date?

[crisp granite]

February

iirc

no exact date

but it's a four week window

[astral haven]

well i just made a big tech purchase lmao

itll definetly consume the most power in my house kek

[mild dome]

Gaming in 40C+ weather has never been worse
On the flip side you don't even need a heater in your room to keep things toasty when it's cold

[carmine fiber]

I wish we had good weather man

temperature is fluctuating between 3C and -15C so every day the ice melts and then freezes back into black ice, its horrible and super slippery everywhere

[carmine fiber]

I don't care about cold unless it's like -25C lol

Just hate ice so much

[sharp badger]

It'll probably be a price premium on the 7000 Series X3D as the 5800X3D?

Kinda interested in buying one though

The 7950X3D TDP at 120W is nice too

[vagrant pagoda]

I really doubt they would make a separate 3d stack for desktop

Eypc only comes in 32+64

Why would they make 32+32 for desktop only

The stacked cache is checked before stacking so the likely hood of half being bad after stacking is low

[ashen spindle]

https://twitter.com/aschilling/status/1610848210758647808

Andreas Schilling 🇺🇦 (@aschilling)

A monster of a chip/package: @AMDInstinct MI300

• CDNA 3 compute architecture
• 24 Zen 4 cores
• 128 GB HBM3
• 146 Billion transistors
• nine 5nm chiplets on top of four 6nm chiplets (3D stacking)
• currently in the labs

Likes

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Twitter · Jan 5, 2023, 3:58 AM

you can run that APU without memory lol

@crisp granite here is your low dimm solution, get an apu that runs without DDR sticks entirely

[ashen spindle]

you can see from the dies they have at ces that its just on one CCD

https://twitter.com/aschilling/status/1610839146611744768

Andreas Schilling 🇺🇦 (@aschilling)

Some chip glory I’ve borrowed from @tomshardware. Thats all the new chips by @AMDNews today.

Top row: Ryzen 7045HX and 7040 series
Middle row: Ryzen 7045HX (again) and Ryzen 9 7950X3D
Bottom row: Navi 33 (Radeon RX 7600M XT)

Twitter · Jan 5, 2023, 3:22 AM

[sharp badger]

Interesting 🤓

[cursive summit]

7600M XT?

That looks fun

120W?

That's weirdly smol

[misty saffron]

have they revealed the msrp for 7950x3d?

probably an arm and a leg

[cursive summit]

No pricing

They held a press event after the public one and there was no msrp on any of the X3D's either

[misty saffron]

that’s unfortunate, the cpu looks insane

[cursive summit]

The parts seem a bit unfinished

[ashen spindle]

its a february release, how are they unfinished lol

[cursive summit]

I think the 7800X3D has like, undetermined boost clocks

They specified like 4.X GHz or something like that

Seems that they are still working out some details

[tropic nacelle]

No they said 5ghz?

[ashen spindle]

in your own slide that you posted it has boost clcoks??

[cursive summit]

Ah must have been base clocks

[ashen spindle]

are we back to you posting stuff you dont actually look at

[tropic nacelle]

They probably holding back on pricing to decide on profit margins over the month.

They don't want to undercut themselves so it won't be cheap but then they do want to sell them xD

[ashen spindle]

or if intel shows the 13900Ks prices they can adjust it then

[tropic nacelle]

Good point, they are due shortly aren't they.

I am a little disappointed that the boost is only up to 5ghz compared to the 5.4ghz on 7700x, I expected similar peaks but guess not

[misty saffron]

holy shit the burn-in is so bad on my mom’s galaxy s10+

how is it nowhere as terrible on my 11 pro max that’s only half a year older??

there’s also a ghost keyboard i can see

[wheat plume]

My uncle's phone has the ENTIRE HOMESCREEN burned in, cause HE DOESNT LOCK HIS PHONE, he just flips the cover over it

https://youtu.be/OcmaB-b8q7c

ok this is neat

[shadow minnow]

Well that wouldn’t be an issue if ambient light sensor detected it

[wheat plume]

That still wouldnt lock the phone

https://youtu.be/Uk9QI6LjGQs

hmmm

Sunbird app

you link an Apple ID to your Sunbird account so they can route the messages through their servers instead of you needing an Apple device to route them yourself

[reef patrol]

What even is privacy

[wheat plume]

:')

OFC they are making the standard
"We care about user privacy and safety and never log anything other than the Sunbird Email account address"

[tropic nacelle]

Depends how long it's on for?
If you have a higher brightness then the pixels will degrade faster which can result in faster burn in.

Anecdotally but on the few cases I've seen with real burn in the person has the brightness almost max ALL THE TIME!

[wheat plume]

Like my uncle does .-.

this is his first Android phone, so also his first OLED screen LOL

and now hes complaining about how Android phones suck because he has burn in on his screen that is ENTIRELY his fault

[shadow minnow]

Well that’s a phone issue then. My phone has eye tracking, so when someone is not looking for a bit it first dimms then shuts down the screen

[shadow minnow]

I disagree with it being entirely his fault

There are smart covers he may have expected this one to be

[wheat plume]

well, its the case's fault, yeh

He also did this with his iphone though, but that wasnt OLED so no burn in

that case on his iPhone wasnt a smart case either

[shadow minnow]

Still iPhones auto shut down after some time without eye contact

[wheat plume]

All phones do that but its just a timer

You can make it do it with eye contact via Smart Lock though

[shadow minnow]

I have left an app update overnight it being on screen whole time multiple times without getting burn in so weird

[wheat plume]

wtf app takes overnight to update?

[ashen spindle]

@astral haven "AMD is working with Microsoft on Windows optimizations that will work in tandem with a new AMD chipset driver to identify games that prefer the increased L3 cache capacity and pin them into the CCD with the stacked cache. Other games that prefer higher frequencies more than increased L3 cache will be pinned into the bare CCD. AMD says that the bare chiplet can access the stacked L3 cache in the adjacent chiplet, but this isn’t optimal and will be rare. Yes, the chip with the extra L3 cache will run games at a slower speed, but most games don’t operate at peak clock rates, so you should still get a huge performance benefit."

[wheat plume]

https://youtu.be/jXrSSq1D0e8

Id love to see a John Hammond and Mutahar collab!!

Muta to setup the VMs and John to explain the code xd

this website seems really awesome

[vagrant pagoda]

3d vcache still limits voltage

So that's why tdp is down.

[ashen spindle]

It limits but still is higher than what regular zen 4 gets lol

[gusty kiln]

Game by game basis? Sounds like a bad time tbh

[ashen spindle]

I mean for gaming just get the 8 core anyway

I would assume in reality it puts it all on VC first and they just keep a list of something gets 0 benefit then it gets moved to slightly higher clocks

Could be fine, could be hyper cursed

[gusty kiln]

Hope they've been working with MS on this for some time now.

[crimson wigeon]

Can't wait for it to be a repeat of the e core p core nonsense

[ashen spindle]

Luckily even if that would be the case it would only be a tiny difference here

Since it’s not a much older mini core and just less L3

[gusty kiln]

Yeah, worst case you just get slightly worst 7959x performance

[vagrant pagoda]

Zen4 is 170w

Only good bined chips get stacked.

Which is why 5800x3ds like under volt

[ashen spindle]

higher voltage I mean

[misty saffron]

huh, only one chiplet has stacked cache?

[ashen spindle]

yes

[misty saffron]

interesting

[ashen spindle]

https://twitter.com/IanCutress/status/1611000585032974337

𝐷𝑟. 𝐼𝑎𝑛 𝐶𝑢𝑡𝑟𝑒𝑠𝑠 (@IanCutress)

Yes, this does set AMD up to support hybrid architectures in the future. Given that VC-enabled and non-VC are going to be similar in perf in most scenarios (except outliers) it allows AMD to test with almost like-with-like before going full bore, like a Zen5+VC + Zen5c next gen

Twitter · Jan 5, 2023, 2:04 PM

[misty saffron]

tbf you rarely get 100% utilization

especially on a 16 core

so i suppose it doesn’t matter much?

as long as the os can move tasks that want cache onto the correct cores

[ashen spindle]

yea

[misty saffron]

hopefully addressed in next gen anyways

[ashen spindle]

next gen hopefully has V$ on release

then again zen5 supposedly is a bigger uplift than zen4 was and if its just a few months later then it's also nice

will be interresting to see if we get something like V$ on Zen4c

since the smaller cores come with less cache to fit more cores into the same ccd and some other changes

to basically offset some penalties to just cram in more core, for server and HEDT mostly

[wheat plume]

https://youtu.be/TdUxWEyafUg

OwO

[reef patrol]

[misty saffron]

can somebody explain how this happened

[crisp granite]

as long as the AMD Instinct MI300 can run windows, game well and has mini ITX solutions

[ashen spindle]

welll

it has no graphics output

and is 800W

[ashen spindle]

LM spill on a laptop?

sounds like classic asus

[astral haven]

Did they confirm that?

All of the other instincts generally have minidp just behind the grille, I suspect they will have some display out capability

[ashen spindle]

a variant of it maybe, but the full version is not going to have a pcie card version

and only OAM

[cursive summit]

2013 not-smartphone probably has a faster network chip than LG TVs

The little shit is still 10/100

Sometimes it just makes no sense why some things have less networking than others

[ashen spindle]

oh hm based on the code for cdna being GX940 maybe it still has some form of video output

since its basically vega on super steroids

but also wouldn't surprise me if el capitain and whatever the other big supercomputer was we wont see it used anywhere else lol

[crisp granite]

challenge accepted

[ashen spindle]

that means you gotta put this thing in

[gusty kiln]

Chonk

[crisp granite]

...I don't think that'll fit in my system

[ashen spindle]

wow this is from 2021, this means el capitain would not be delayed, while aurora is delayed beyond this date already

[cursive summit]

Leaked new Intel 14900K bundled cooler / radiator for warming up your house?

[gusty kiln]

Man a 16" ultrabook-type laptop with 99 whr and the new amd U-chip would be amazing

[ashen spindle]

if laptop makers dont shit the bed we could have windows laptops that outperform macbooks this year

[gusty kiln]

Pretty crazy they were able to jump to 4nm

[ashen spindle]

?

[cursive summit]

Isn't Apple jumping on 3nm soon

Or are they already there

[ashen spindle]

zen4 is on 5nm and 4nm is basically the same

[gusty kiln]

Probably 3nm this year for Apple

M3 probably will be a decent bump over m2

[ashen spindle]

ehhh hard maybe

[gusty kiln]

I think Apple will retake the crown

[ashen spindle]

they are just starting N3 production, that node isn't ramped yet

apple is one of the first no doubt

[gusty kiln]

Oh shit

Zowie finally announce their wireless mouse

[ashen spindle]

normal N3 is... not amazing

so if there is an M3 on N3 this year, dont expect big changes

node doesnt give much more and the core design team left apple hence the m2 not being a real jump either

[gusty kiln]

@vivid vine zowie wireless seems a bit underwhelming

[gusty kiln]

Ah

[vivid vine]

I literally just watched the video they put out on YT

[gusty kiln]

Pulsar was way more interesting

3370 for 150+

💸

[vivid vine]

They are just hoping the name carries them

[gusty kiln]

Zowie out here thinking they are apple

The Dav3 is better in almost all aspect

Only need size options

Holy shit

That dongle is massive

And badic bitch mouse skate

[vivid vine]

2006 is calling Zowie, they want there tech back

[tropic nacelle]

But the death adder is made by razer :).

I much prefer my lamzu Atlantis personally

[vivid vine]

I have had zero problems with Razer customer service, never understood all the hate

[gusty kiln]

Same

No problem even with synapses

[reef patrol]

Products that break, forced, invasive software, drivers that literally act like malware screwing up other brands (whether intentionally or not), poor CS and RMA

[gusty kiln]

It never bothers me surprisingly

[vivid vine]

Yea I hate the software, but that can be said with just about any big maker, RMA and CS has never been an issue, and everytime I see a rant on Reddit about it, a Razer Rep comes and post the other side of the story, usually the consumer is in the wrong

[reef patrol]

Only Razer requires me to create an account and log in, ONLINE to be able to adjust my OFFLINE hardware last I checked.

[tropic nacelle]

Rubber on my razer viper ultimate fell apart within 6 months and they said it was wear and tear.... Like yeah but it's poor quality...

The pogo pins on the charging plate sometimes stick and they said that's not a problem xD.

It tries to install it's synapse shit everytime it's plugged in, it auto loads of a popup.

Poor quality, high price.

Personal experience for years though.

[gusty kiln]

I've had my rvu for 2 years and it's only now starting to show wear

Pogo pin do suck, but I just wiggle it a little and then it charges

[tropic nacelle]

And that was my lesson to stop buying outside of Amazon where possible xD

[vivid vine]

6 Months and the rubber wore off, do you secrete acid ?

I see pic's about this, but never understood how people wear rubber out so quick

[tropic nacelle]

Nope, all my previous mice with rubber grips were fine

It's more the design of the mouse as my pinky sits on it and I guess rubs it overtime, moreso than other mice.

Or it was just bad batch of rubber? Who knows, they wouldn't fix it eitherway. If I bought from Amazon it would have gone back regardless

[gusty kiln]

There have been silent revisions of the rvu

Updates switches and such

I hope logitech updates the shape of the g703 whenever they make a superlight version

[tropic nacelle]

Working on work Chromebook and home pc was a real pain and just was the final straw for me. It might be small but pretty much every day it would popup saying install synapse even after declining every time.

Popups get very annoying, felt like having a virus back in XP days xD

[gusty kiln]

Feels easy too bulky

@vivid vine did you see that new asus mouse?

[tropic nacelle]

I wonder why the zowei dock is so big, I like pogo pins just my razer ones got actually stuck. It isn't a problem on my old Microsoft mouse and hasn't on other devices.

So I like that part of their dock just don't get why it's so big for the front of the mouse to sit on it

[vivid vine]

The Harpe...kinda looked like a Viper shape so I dipped the minute I saw it

But it may be more along the lines of Superlight/X2

[gusty kiln]

Claiming better wireless

[gusty kiln]

Ah

There is a little red window on the zowie mouse for the signal

[vivid vine]

Yea seems to be more along the lines of a Superlight now I am looking more

[gusty kiln]

Weird how no other company needs that

[tropic nacelle]

Wonder if the Zen 4 x3d prices will be released before the February launch date.

Will decide between getting the Zen 3x3d and waiting for Zen 5 or going straight in now. Shame they didn't announce price now

[gusty kiln]

Zen 4 pricing have dropped a bit

Wonder maybe 50 over old msrp?

Or 100

I'm glad to be sitting on a 5800x3d

[vivid vine]

Badseed seems to think its more like a SS Sensei

[ashen spindle]

Non x parts are out so imagine regular zen 4 goes back to msrp prices slowly

[vivid vine]

https://youtu.be/HfWaE40x_Bk?t=155

[ashen spindle]

Price definitely going to depend on 13900ks pricing I bet

[gusty kiln]

Interesting, that was a popular shape back in the day

[gusty kiln]

Wonder of 6ghz will be enough to compete, at least in those cherry picked games

[vivid vine]

54G's with no holes, bluetooth and rgb in the scroll wheel

Kinda crazy

[gusty kiln]

Yeah

Asus finally shook off that gaymer mentality

[astral haven]

meh someone will make a motherboard for it
i highly suspect there are enough pins on oam to get a video output

[ashen spindle]

idk if anyone outside el capitan and such is going to buy it lol

[astral haven]

i want a steam deck pro lel

even downclocked it should still be pretty performant

[ashen spindle]

remember this joke of a slide? now move the bar higher due to zen4 cores and we know the answer lol

[astral haven]

thats not 6ghz tho

13900ks is 6g

[ashen spindle]

ik

[reef patrol]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PuNgf29Gn8o

[ashen spindle]

but if we say move the slide on both somewhat equally you get similar results, some they might win some they have no chance

[reef patrol]

I love when John makes these really simple videos.

[gusty kiln]

200mhz over the stock max boost of the 13900k

Hmmmm

[tropic nacelle]

That's very little difference, rounding error in game FPS output no doubt.

It will certainly be interesting to see how they compete, I read the KS is out next week so not long till reviews I guess.

[astral haven]

gotta remember tho
5800x3d has a few extreme wins, alot of similar performance titles, and many minor losses

[ashen spindle]

yes so it will be similar to that slide, move the blue one up a bit, move the red line up a bit

[astral haven]

those few wins massively skew the averages

[ashen spindle]

didnt mean to imply I think its above in everything

[astral haven]

sure

but its good to be aware that its not frequent that it wins

[ashen spindle]

also while that is true for fps average, 1% lows and such are likely seeing a much bigger improvement and that is better imo

[astral haven]

also not true btw

1% lows have very similar overall relative changes

where sometimes it actually regresses

[misty saffron]

ps5

[ashen spindle]

oh lol

[crisp granite]

do they ship with LM?

or just regular thermal compound?
I need to know if this is a hollow fucked up or a warranty claiming issue

[reef patrol]

PS5 uses LM

[crisp granite]

huh
cool

[gusty kiln]

Which games have caused the 5800x3d to go to memory?

[astral haven]

all

[gusty kiln]

AAA games?

Oh

[astral haven]

its chances

[cursive summit]

Not that many games even use cache though

At least benefit from more of it

[ashen spindle]

???

[cursive summit]

Some games like I think Total War just don't have extra benefit from more cache

[gusty kiln]

All games use the cache

[ashen spindle]

total war btw

[cursive summit]

Why I added the extra sentence to clarify, all software use cache just not all software needs a lot of it

[cursive summit]

I think it was GN's Three Kingdoms bench that showed like 1% benefit

[ashen spindle]

it's just like any other bottleneck, if you are stopped elsewhere then it wont make a change

most cases can benefit from it though

[astral haven]

yep^

this time it may be more painful than last tho bc its at the same time dropping 50 watts

[gusty kiln]

1+ month until reviews

[astral haven]

yep

[gusty kiln]

😴

[astral haven]

no motherboards that have the capabilities i want tho

[gusty kiln]

Even the kilobucks?

[astral haven]

so this is a dead gen for me unless someone releases a gen 5 x16 to dual gen 4 x16 adapter

[astral haven]

yep
the closest is actually one of the less expensive boards lel

[gusty kiln]

What are you trying to do with 2 full 16x slots?

[astral haven]

gpu
100g nic

[gusty kiln]

Jeez

How much is a 100g nic?

[astral haven]

i paid 200 for two

dual port pcie 4.0x16

[gusty kiln]

That's a lot of data to transfer

[astral haven]

normally they cost about 300 each

[gusty kiln]

👀

[astral haven]

its basically 1 gen 4 nvme per port

worth of practical data movement

[hardy sun]

aim assist is not following the enemies

[ashen spindle]

What

[crisp granite]

wonderful
#1019722836778164244

[gusty kiln]

[crisp granite]

and full disclosure
the apes at epic ensured mixed input won't do aim assist

any mouse movement disables it for a couple seconds iirc

[gusty kiln]

Yeah I've noticed that in apex

[crisp granite]

I personally don't touch either game, but I do find it really interesting how no one in those communities really care about a given peripheral unless it fits their collective "this is good"

or someone fucks up badly enough to completely change the "meta setup"

[gusty kiln]

How bad would a w10 vm using 2 haswell core be?

No ht

[crisp granite]

win10 on a dual core is already pretty painful
like sticking your dick in an m&m tube levels

adding the overhead of a vm would only make that worse

[gusty kiln]

Rip

Cuz I got an old pc with a 4460, tempted to use it as an unraid server

[crisp granite]

tbh
it'll run windows 10 without issue
it just won't be pretty when you need to actually do more than run the desktop

minimum requirement is a dual core

[misty saffron]

i sent 3 different cases

of people having the ps5 stand vertically

[wheat plume]

https://youtu.be/Ep6HhI1mpko

o.o

this is wack

[sharp badger]

https://cte.thermaltake.com/ Kinda interesting cases when you can rotate the mobo, kinda like the CTE T500 Air

[wheat plume]

Intel 13th gen CPU

o.o

[ashen spindle]

Those are a thing for months

[wheat plume]

This is some CPU thats not released yet in this thing

cause this is a prototype model of the laptop

[sharp badger]

Kinda interesting with the dual display but don't think that it would be nice to type on

[ashen spindle]

Still more or less the same thing just different sku for that power budget

[wheat plume]

thats why it comes with a really slim BT keyboard you can rest on the bottom screen if you want a real board to type with

[sharp badger]

Yeah arrived at that part now

lol

[wheat plume]

there was another laptop that has a similar setup but I forgot what it is

[sharp badger]

Asus Zenbook Pro Duo?

[wheat plume]

does that keyboard come off?

[sharp badger]

No

[wheat plume]

this other laptop also had a keyboard that you rest on the screen and it connects

[sharp badger]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=szyg7MQrS3I

Ok 🤔

https://www.cnet.com/tech/computing/intels-beautiful-dual-screen-concepts-show-what-laptops-could-be-in-2-years-computex/

[wheat plume]

oooh, yeh that

[gusty kiln]

That was my assumption

Imagine 7950x3d at a grand

[wheat plume]

This guy is great
https://youtu.be/-Vw-ONPfaFk

[sharp badger]

Yeah

[gusty kiln]

Gunna be a long month wait

[latent mural]

Linux moment

[sharp badger]

Would like to have the Asus ROG CROSSHAIR X670E GENE if i'd go AM5(I'd probably then sell my Z690 & 12700K to go X3D) but 699,90€ for the Mobo is quite expensive and if the X3D Cpus are coming at a ''Premium'' it's even harder to justify if there's not a good deal 🙄

[latent mural]

699 for a motherboard

pc building out of hand

2k for gpu if u want 4090 700 for mobo

crazy ass

[sharp badger]

Bought my Z690 mobo for 319,90€ & the CPU at around 420€~

[latent mural]

that's still very ridiculous tho isn't it

320 for a mobo

I mean maybe my x570 isn't anywhere near as nice

[sharp badger]

Yeah could've gone cheaper too but wanted the Aorus pro DDR5 at the time and bought some 16GB, CL40, DDR5 sticks priced at 120€~

[latent mural]

isn't ddr5 also not worth the upgrade unless you get like the ridiculous 8000mhz kits

[sharp badger]

Probably got 32GB, CL30, 6000MHz now

[latent mural]

cl42🤣

I stil think ddr4 has a long lifespan

[sharp badger]

Yeah but i upgraded from an i7 5820K , X99 with DDR4 , didn't think the AM4 platform was worth it so decided to upgrade to Z690 which was available at that time

[sharp badger]

Would be nice , yeah

[tropic nacelle]

It will be similar to how they have their star setup for the better cores right now in terms of 1t workloads on windows.

It's a little misleading but I'd say it's on the limit of "ok" as technically the up to boost is for 1t workloads and it will do that on the ccd, all core workload the boost is less.

[astral haven]

the problem is that the allcore boost is also less too

especially compared to the higher power non 3d version

[vagrant pagoda]

Yeah because voltage is per CPU not die

[ashen spindle]

well pbo and curve optimizer will be available

so if you go for direct die you might be able to get some more out of it

[tropic nacelle]

yeah the 7950x is 4.5ghz base vs 4.3ghz on the x3d version.
Same peak 1t boost though.
Lower TDP overall

Makes sense when you see the tjmax is 95C on normal and 89C on x3d, the limitation of the stacked cache for heat I guess.
Not a huge reduction though, be nice to see the third party benchmarks next month

[ashen spindle]

Oh it’s same Peak because the non VC CCD can clock like normal

[tropic nacelle]

yeah exactly, just very much using that "up to" logic

[ashen spindle]

The VC CCD will be Limited on all 3

[tropic nacelle]

just that if you had a 1t game and it benefits from the cache so is put onto the stacked ccd then it wont get near that max boost which is a little misleading

I know AMD have said this but it feels like they almost need a "game clock" equivlent if this is the norm

[ashen spindle]

yes but also radeon at this point is more like a side project of amd lol

[vagrant pagoda]

Yeah 8k minesweeper

8k solitaire with fsr

[ashen spindle]

nono, 8k but it's all integer upscaling from 1080p

[vagrant pagoda]

Lol

[vagrant pagoda]

Chonkers pixels

Thiccxels

[astral haven]

That is tho better than native 1080p thanks to subpixels...

[pale sigil]

Speaking of res

It's kinda mad how 1080p has basically become 720p

When I was searching for a laptop during uni I was searching for 1080p because that would make me very happy.... Now 1080p on a laptop feels like olde 720p ones.

Still reliable though

[latent mural]

I've used a 1440 laptop for a while and now my 1080p monitor looks so dog

my laptop is for school but it has 3070ti 😂

[ashen spindle]

https://blurbusters.com/happy-new-year-2023-blur-busters-is-back/

hdr testufo is something I'll be looking forwards too

[pale sigil]

Lol 4070ti stock is plentiful

[ashen spindle]

no surprise if cheapest options is 940€ lmfao

[sharp badger]

4.3-Slot Noctua 4080 😅

https://videocardz.com/newz/asus-announces-geforce-rtx-4080-noctua-graphics-card

[ashen spindle]

tbh the bigest reason I like the noctua models is that its so much easier to replace fans or do cleaning that with other bolted down fan stuff aside from sapphire

[tropic nacelle]

Wonder which OLED manufacturer they have been working with.

You see LGs latest panels? Big brightness improvements.

Monitor and TV space for OLED Vs QD-OLED is looking good

[ashen spindle]

more should do that

[pale sigil]

Cheapest here is £920

Ooft

[sharp badger]

So there's Dell, Samsung & MSI that have QD-OLED offerings?

Or is there any i've missed?

[ashen spindle]

think samsung and msi are still not out yet just announced

[sharp badger]

Yeah AW34 is the only one that's available for now

Ah the Philips Evnia is QD-OLED too

https://www.displayspecifications.com/en/news/a88a88d

1849€ 👀

[ashen spindle]

yeah saw that price and laughed

[sharp badger]

https://twitter.com/momomo_us/status/1610976936830062592?t=x4y1WAc6bmETXTljsNvdWg&s=19 DeepCool with a new thick Air-cooler 😅

188号 (@momomo_us)

DeepCool ASSASSIN IV

Likes

379

Twitter · Jan 5, 2023, 12:30 PM

[vagrant pagoda]

Rip to Sim Woo

Revolutionized PC sound

Brought PCM sound to the masses and cemented PC as the multimedia powerhouse

[gusty kiln]

looks like something nzxt would make

https://drop.com/buy/drop-bmr1-nearfield-monitors

interesting looking computer speakers

[astral haven]

These are quite a bit larger tho

[glossy eagle]

still waiting on my wooting KB to arrive - and im wondering if this keyboard have dual bindings similar to the steel series apex pro? (1 button 2 keys based on actuation)

[gusty kiln]

Yes it has DKS

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1M6sovkYlRY

[glossy eagle]

oh sweet so its called DKS

[true quest]

all i remember is using their headsets, which were great with the elastic band across the head

but the integrated microphone makes the sm7b look good

[fair gull]

since steelseries stole the feature idea from us. yes we have that

[reef patrol]

[sharp badger]

https://www.google.com/amp/s/wccftech.com/deepcool-unveils-the-might-assassin-iv-cpu-cooler-new-digital-aios-fans-ch560-case/amp/ DeepCool will apparently have displays for Air-coolers too

[haughty obsidian]

Is Wooting really worth it for FPS shooters?

[reef patrol]

[haughty obsidian]

When the "Take Control keycaps" comes out will it be included for all countries in the Wooting 60HE configurator thingy?

[reef patrol]

US ANSI layout only

[haughty obsidian]

Awwww 😦

[sharp badger]

The one thing i was hoping to see at CES was Phanteks 140mm T30 fans. But seems like it's like Noctuas ''next gen'' 140mm fans that they've delayed to be perfected 😀

[tropic nacelle]

Is that true mansen?? Only US layout? I guess I'll stop keeping an eye out for those cap haha.

[frozen ingot]

boo

[fair gull]

so der8auer was right

not enough water in it

[frozen ingot]

but 110c totally normal and reasonable operating temperature they said

[fair gull]

nono they sprung into action right away as you heard

[tropic nacelle]

One support staff chat over the holidays.

They are technically correct it is within operating temperature but they ignored the throttling aspect.

You can't recall until you understand what the issue is and it was over the holidays.

Tolerance in manufacturing was wrong or just a pure incorrect batch from facility. Do a QA run and it's fine which explains why plenty are fine, then randomly a batch made wrong but you wouldn't catch that on QA easily (at least to me that seems difficult to ascertain)

Good that they are sorting it out but just another reason why you shouldn't rush a Christmas launch as things can and will happen... The holidays delay actions.

[pale sigil]

😍

[tropic nacelle]

How long before it goes yellow though?

[sharp badger]

Limited to 200 units 😬

https://videocardz.com/newz/colorful-to-launch-geforce-rtx-4090-igame-lab-limited-edition ''According to our information, this is a special edition that will only be available in 200 units. This graphics card will not be sold oversees, and it should become exclusive to Asian markets.''

[pale sigil]

When my GPU is out of warranty I'd love to spray paint it but I don't trust myself lol

They are always exclusive to Asian markets sadly

[ashen spindle]

most interresting part is him saying the will listen to what people said about rdna3 marketing

[crimson wigeon]

So RDNA4 will be "8K GAMING! For real this time!"

[ashen spindle]

if they do not make a nebulous misleading luanch again then good, that's a relatively fast admission of fault since it's not been that long

[tropic nacelle]

I'll believe it when I see it, usually they are ok on marketing, obviously cherry picked but it is reproducible results.

This time they were way off their own values and made poor comparisons.

It's been worse since Robert left although I don't know if that's just pure coincidence, if the product was good it would be easy to market so it could be that fact rdna3 really was expected to be that good and failed.

(Still a relatively good product)

[ashen spindle]

oh yeah rdna3 failing targets definitely made it harder for them to be as direct, still good to see them admitting to part of it at least

[tropic nacelle]

Yep better than head in sand!
Guess we will see with their next launch

[shadow minnow]

That’s kinda racist

[pale sigil]

What's this bullshit

[ashen spindle]

idk what is it

[pale sigil]

It's a free fucking app

Yet I can't install it?

Because of a limit

Wtf ms

[ashen spindle]

yes I can see that part

what app is it

[pale sigil]

Ear trumpet

[reef patrol]

How do you own ten devices to put it on to begin with?

[ashen spindle]

https://account.microsoft.com/devices/content

looks like you can have 10 linked to your account so just see if some old machine is listed and remove that

[vagrant pagoda]

It's to stop people from using a normal Ms account for business uses

It's dumb

[pale sigil]

4 technically at once

But usually it's when I've re installed windows

Eg deck 3 times this year alone

Also

https://tenor.com/view/linus-torvalds-linus-nvidia-fuck-you-gif-19475186

Hate having to login

[vagrant pagoda]

Then don't?

[final flame]

GeForce experience forces ypu to log in every once in a while

sure you can just not use it but it is convenient for installing drivers

[vagrant pagoda]

Gfe dosent do anything though

[reef patrol]

Oh no. Having to click a download button on their website every few months. Instead of having software and an account.

[vagrant pagoda]

Remember when steam would do that for you?

[reef patrol]

I actually don't.,

[pale sigil]

Shadowplay

[vagrant pagoda]

Shadowplay isn't anything fancy

Obs and windows game capture can do the same thing

[pale sigil]

Windows game capture takes up resources and is pretty shit

OBS Is great but no replay function.

[ashen spindle]

what do you mean with no replay function

[frozen ingot]

https://videocardz.com/newz/amd-confirms-a-small-batch-of-radeon-rx-7900-xtx-has-vapor-chamber-issues-company-offers-replacements

[ashen spindle]

obs has replay buffer to safe stuff like shadowplay for years

[frozen ingot]

amd gone done did the apple excuse

[ashen spindle]

how is saying they had a batch of bad vapor chambers the apple excuse?

how is that blaming the user

[frozen ingot]

its a classic apple statement when tons of people complain online about some design aspect in their products that malfunctions/fails

"its come to our attention that a small number of users have x issue"

[vagrant pagoda]

Windows game capture supports hardware encode and capture

It's the same resources as shadowplay or ons

Obs

[ashen spindle]

they had some MBA batches that have not gotten enough water in the chamber, what else do you expect them to say?

its not a general design issue nor is every batch affected

[frozen ingot]

their first reaction was also to trivialize and downplay the customers reports

[vagrant pagoda]

No

It effected a small number of users

It isn't downplaying

[frozen ingot]

I mean they didn't even want to accept returns until it garnered some media attention

[ashen spindle]

that is also false

in the reply where they said 110c is withing the limit they said if you still wish to RMA you can do so just it could take a bit longer to get a replacement

[frozen ingot]

they argued 110c is within reasonable boundaries for normal use when it clearly wasn't for the circumstances it occured in

[vagrant pagoda]

No

110c is under the limit for hotspot

[ashen spindle]

they said 110c is fine and that it could lead to reduced performance but that the card will otherwise works fine, so that is a default response because who knows if the first rma about it is a defect cooler or some idiot who runs it ina close with no airflow

all it was is a statement about whats going on if it hits 100c, that rma could take a while, and that they will rma if they customer confirms they want it

idk where this is an apple excuse or downplaying it

[vagrant pagoda]

Also offering refund

[tropic nacelle]

"tons"? How many is that defined as?

Some poll had a high percentage but it was 200 cards... That's a TINY number.

You can't believe Igor wild speculation of thousands, he doesn't know and is speculating for no reason.

It's fine to call out companies but let's not be hyperbolic with these complaints.

[frozen ingot]

I never said amd had tons of issues though, I said apple did

[tropic nacelle]

Tons of people complain? You are saying they are like apple, it reads like you meant that comparison

[frozen ingot]

and yeah just thought the way they phrased that was amusing in its similarity

[tropic nacelle]

It's not really, no business will say all are impacted unless it's a major recall and it is very likely to be a small percentage.

It's not a design fault it's a manufacturing batch problem, someone put less liquid in or wrong pressure when making the batch.

As people have working cards and some don't it's not a design problem, if it was a design problem then yeah it's bad. Now it's just an inconvenience

The apple way would be to say you are using it wrong, turn your GPU orientation to get good results.

And telling you to thank them for their genius

[frozen ingot]

maybe in amds case their claim on amount of users affected are a bit closer to real life than in the case of those fruit keyboards

[pale sigil]

It support Nvidias tech?

[ashen spindle]

what do you need from shadowplay

if it the instant replay feature that saves the last x minutes if you hit a hotkey, obs has had that for years

[pale sigil]

Yes but I have to manually open OBS

[ashen spindle]

you manually have to open GFE

[frozen ingot]

nah it was such a shitshow they couldn't even blame it on user error this time

[pale sigil]

Nope

[ashen spindle]

if it runs from startup just put obs into the startup apps

[pale sigil]

I just don't wanna use OBS for everything lol, it also doesn't automatically sort by game irrc

And also doesn't have highlights

[tropic nacelle]

Is GFE required for shadowplay? It's been years, I used to use AMD relive or whatever for some small game caps but haven't for ages.

[pale sigil]

It is now sadly yes

[tropic nacelle]

I've avoided it all this time as it had a bad rep but its been so long I don't actually know if it's a valid reason xD.

[frozen ingot]

been tied to geforce experience for the last few years at least

[vagrant pagoda]

You can have it save clips to folders based on game

[pale sigil]

Interesting

I'll have to look into that

[vagrant pagoda]

Also didn't know anyone used highlights

Lol

[reef patrol]

A720

Two RAM slots, shitty cheap military grade components, mATX.

One fan header.

[carmine fiber]

I mean 2 dimm slots is a selling point for some $1000 motherboards

like EVGA's dark and ASUS's apex

lol

[tropic nacelle]

Where? It is technically normal limits, as they said you can RMA it just isn't damaging right now.

Yeah did you miss the whole part of contact support for replacement?

Sorry I may have missed the sarcasm 😂

[ashen spindle]

the issue is simply support has certain numbers, 110 is withing the operating temperature and the reply got taked as if amd said the cards are supposed to run at 110c in normal airflow cases

[vivid vine]

Only posted it for the mouse, that Harpe might have to get snatched up

Glad I have waited to try another mouse and buy a new monitor, things from CES are looking sick

[unique void]

these r soo good

[gusty kiln]

heh I'm ok with all the new monitor releases cuz they are out of my reasonable spending budget anyway

oled and 500+ hz are all prob near or above a grando

[vivid vine]

I just want that 27" OLED from LG

1k is alot, but hey its the price we must pay for new tech

[gusty kiln]

already paid 500 for my 1440p 240hz

[vivid vine]

Yea if I recently dropped that type of money I would not be looking

I am still on a older 24" 1080p 144hz monitor

[pale sigil]

QDOLED is the only next upgrade path for me

[vivid vine]

Was already window shopping, glad I waited

[gusty kiln]

by the time I would upgrade, hopefully a new tech comes along

all qd-oled performance with even less burn-in risk

[unique void]

i will sell my soul for an oled 1080p monitor

[chrome estuary]

27" 1440p144 oled. That's what i want.

[vagrant moss]

not worth it for the price tbh

atleast atm

[sharp badger]

Samsung is producing panels to both of these AW3423DW(F) & G8 S32AG85, right? is there any difference in the panels?

[tropic nacelle]

They are definitely not the same, the g8 is a VA panel (backlit display) and the aw34 is a Samsung QD-OLED panel.

Massive difference in technology and one is 4k Vs 1440p ultrawide.

[sharp badger]

Isn't there a new 34'' QD-Oled from Samsung too?

1 of the 2 they revealed at CES?

https://www.theverge.com/2023/1/2/23529275/samsung-qd-oled-odyssey-g8-g95sc-curved-gaming-monitor-specs-price

Ah i see the the site i looked at has the wrong number on the display

It's this : LS34BG850SUXEN instead of S32AG85 the latter leads to a 4K monitor

[cursive summit]

https://www.pcmag.com/news/using-your-ps5-vertically-may-result-in-hardware-failure

Aren't these kinda meant to be used vertically?

[reef patrol]

Yes.

[cursive summit]

So using it by design will result in your device potentially malfunctioning and breaking

Sony

[reef patrol]

yes

This is a repair man warning people about the potential issue, and telling people to lay it down for now, until Sony gets ahead

[wheat plume]

What great design you got there, Sony

/S

[cursive summit]

I mean, liquid metal is already not that much used in cooling afaik

The dangers of LM are well known, so the fact that a spillage still happens is kinda on Sony for bad design

[reef patrol]

Oh this is 100% a seal issue. It'd be like Apple using poor water sealant and getting called out for doing so after reviews and customers show it didn't seal as promised.

[tropic nacelle]

Yep that's the one, that is the same panel as the aw34d as you said.

I don't think I've seen reviews for the g8 yet but it's the same panel so it should be similar in picture quality but different feature sets and significantly more expensive.

If you are looking now I would wait for the updated panels this year (obviously up to you, waiting can be a pain!) As improvements across the board will be seen and more options will be available both in OLED and QD-OLED.

[sharp badger]

Ok and yeah i'll wait, was just wondering if they had the same panel 👍

Next display will probably be a QD-OLED or OLED

[thick elk]

Also the issue so far seems to be blown a bit out of proportion.
Yes a bad seal results in broken consoles, yes it's one of the most common issues that hit repair shops, but that does not mean it's universally bad / something that affects a large portion of the vertical PS5's.

Still there are good reasons why liquid metal is not commonly used despite its obvious termal benefit.

[pale sigil]

"Flagship killer"

https://www.gsmarena.com/oneplus_11-11893.php

At the same time uses USB Type-C 2.0, OTG

gg

[reef patrol]

Hmm?

[cursive summit]

It's starting to get clear that the only reason Cal gave up his admin role is so he could become more like his lover and start lanaposting

To be fair though, that OnePlus has bluetooth 5.3

Must be a new thing for Snapdragons with 8 gen 2

[pale sigil]

wdym the context is there

i give a link to the new phone....

[cursive summit]

And I really see no point of USB 2.0 vs 3.1 or 3.2

About 550 EUR???

[pale sigil]

Its slower than my grandma and cant deliver decent power.

[cursive summit]

That's not bad at all

[pale sigil]

where did you get 550 euro

[cursive summit]

The fuckin link you sent

[cursive summit]

Also, what are you smoking nowadays

100W is "not decent power"?

[pale sigil]

As in output

tit

Again i dont see euros anywhere

[cursive summit]

And where'd that be useful

[pale sigil]

Handing anything other than very bare bones dongles.

[cursive summit]

You already love your barebones dongle, apple dong

[pale sigil]

Ye so thats india price, it wont be that much over here.

EG they cant use

They will drive cheap normal shit tho

But.... anything half decent simply wont be usable on USB 2.0

It simply cant push it... even my K612 Pros cant be used over USB C 2.0

it also stops you from using HDMI etc irrc

Spending so much money and losing a decent amount of features etc to save a few cents

[cursive summit]

What the fuck are you on

"USB 2.0 provides power up to 500 mA whereas USB 3.0 caters up to 900 mA, resulting in an increase in total power delivery from 2.5 W to 4.5 W "

[pale sigil]

afaik 2.0 maxes out at 100w

[cursive summit]

Your shitty floppy dongle won't top few watts to begin with

[pale sigil]

I have both EU and NA version.

Look online, USB C 2.0 cannot handle it.

Also the dongle uses 3.6w on normal headphones.

[cursive summit]

Well they evidently do cause I have no issue powering my dongle and run K712/NDH20s with USB-C 2.0

[pale sigil]

At a low noise level

[pale sigil]

Yes but your dongle is shit

[cursive summit]

You ever looked at your floppy chinese trash?

[pale sigil]

What are you actually using?

[cursive summit]

Whatever tf the samsung 3.5mm to usb-c is

24bit / 192kHz 100dB SNR somehow

Which is fuckin not bad

[pale sigil]

Interesting i will say.

What phone are you using

[cursive summit]

Poco x3 nfc

[pale sigil]

seems almost on par but it does seem like the Apple dongle uses a bit more power and its independent volume which is why it can be quiter over USB 2

However audio quality itself is still lower but damn

[cursive summit]

btw

You peeps have no clue what you are on I swear

[pale sigil]

its $9

[cursive summit]

Tbf it looks exactly like the samsung one

[pale sigil]

and is insanely good

and still bettert 😉

and was around a lot longer tbf

[cursive summit]

M11 is like, a grand

Who genuinely buys that

[pale sigil]

it seems good but it still doesn't compare

im actually surprised i didn't know this lol

[cursive summit]

Funny thing about the samsung dongles

There is at least 3 different versions

So I have no clue which one they are reviewing

Samsung after acquiring AKG just went into an audio spree of just perfecting audio

[pale sigil]

costs quite a bit more than an Apple Dongle here at least which sucks.

[cursive summit]

Hmm

Looks fun but useless since I can just 3.5mm jack on my x3 anyways

[pale sigil]

The one you can buy direclty off Samsung for $15

pain

Im happy with Spotify and i cba dealing with an independent device for it tbh

[cursive summit]

I bet the new moondrop dongle just obliterates everything below 50$

Obv no, there's Toppings and other stuff in there

Just useless audiophile stuff

[pale sigil]

No

The whole point of the post is dont waste money on anything under $100

[cursive summit]

I'm defo buying this little thing once this samsung flopper gives out

https://moondroplab.com/en/products/click-3-5

Embrace the weeb

[pale sigil]

Apparently its the same if not more on par with the samsung

[cursive summit]

Nowhere near

SINAD is 113

That tops your apple one by a country mile

[pale sigil]

basically dont waste your money on moondrop click it seems

[cursive summit]

??

yeah I would love to see your source

[pale sigil]

as i said, it seems.

I dont have any fancy data but people on reddit did small reviews on it

it just came out

id be very curious

so ill wait

the thing i hate with the apple dongle is the differences between eu and na

Stupid EU laws

[cursive summit]

Since when are you in EU?

Blame UK laws, brexitman

EU laws will save us from corporates

[pale sigil]

We still follow EU laws ya nob ed.

[cursive summit]

Then stop brexiting you nut

[pale sigil]

Don't blame me, blame the boomers.

[cursive summit]

I blame the damn british Trump man

[pale sigil]

Who

[cursive summit]

What's lil Boris been doing since he left office anyways

[pale sigil]

Boris didn't do much Brexit wise though.

Or do you mean um

I forgot his name lol

[cursive summit]

Is Boris still in the house of commons?

[pale sigil]

the dick head who sounds like a right tit and shat himself when people asked him the next day.

[cursive summit]

Or is he completely out of politics

[pale sigil]

You on about this nob ed?

[cursive summit]

Who tf is that

[pale sigil]

He was the person who lead the Brexit campaign.

[cursive summit]

Everyone talks about Boris when it comes to brexit

[pale sigil]

Because he took over Brexit negotiations and did a shit job.

He wasn't really anyone during the original campaign to leave

I mean he had a voice but he certainly wasn't the main person i guess.

Ok well i should be more clear.

[final flame]

uhh Sinad really isn't a good way to measure dacs in a significant quantifiable way
this is known

[pale sigil]

Boris defiantly did a lot, however he didn't push Brexit as much as nigel farage who was the most aggressive person/bullshitter

[final flame]

Sinad is literally a joke in audio communities

[tropic nacelle]

He was heavily on the leave campaign! Don't you remember his brexit bus 350m to the NHS a week bollocks xD.

Boris was on holiday for 3 months and no one cared that he was avoiding his employment. He was being paid for being on holiday that they don't have.

But yeah that's politics not technical haha.

[final flame]

https://headphones.com/blogs/features/evaluating-sinad-why-its-not-important

[cursive summit]

Measurements in general seem half useless

I don't see a point in comparing everything to anything

[pale sigil]

I know but lets be real, nigel farage was doing the most damage.

Especially with his whole kick people out of the country push and immigration

[cursive summit]

I just know that Moondrop makes fairly good stuff and the Click is pretty not bad, mostly the build looks really good

[pale sigil]

Because that was attractive to most boomers

[final flame]

I'd say when looking for a dongle, you should concentrate more on durability

[cursive summit]

Actually Moondrop seems to be preparing a heavy audio expansion

Blessing 3's might be coming out soon

Which is fun

And apparently Moondrop is going to make speakers

[final flame]

that's cool

[cursive summit]

Which is funny

Cause you can't have audio without boomboxes

[tropic nacelle]

Garage did damage but Boris did more really, he lied about his "deal" and before all this when he was a "journalist" he was writing fake articles blaming the EU for things like bendy bananas, he was sowing the seeds of doubt for decades hating on the EU and got sacked for lying as a journalist.

People reading papers are easily mislead and it becomes subconscious in the end.

I blame Cameron the most though, he only pulled the referendum out to try and keep power within his party and fucked off, it should never have been called in the first place.

[pale sigil]

Meanwhile i use logitech z533s xD

[pale sigil]

bbbbbut what about our voting freedoms and our voice bla bla

Stupid boomers

[final flame]

oh yea vexx I'll be getting the click soon it's currently in shipping

[cursive summit]

Click seems like a solid investment

Solid build and good audio quality

I'm sick of this shitty gummy dongle

Proper quality would be nice

[sharp badger]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qKh0yxYVZWE will be interesting to see how these CTE cases will perform

[vagrant pagoda]

That isn't a raven.

[crisp granite]

goddamn

I didn't realise how absurd NVidia's lineup this gen was

just...how?

[ashen spindle]

greed?

[crisp granite]

this is beyond that

greed would be squeezing an extra 50 or 100 at every level
raising the price to unaffordable levels across the stack is...stupid

[pale sigil]

piss off steam

[fair gull]

easy fix dont use steam

[crisp granite]

r/AyyyyyyMD

[pale sigil]

SD card speeds

https://tenor.com/view/monsters-university-snail-going-on-my-way-omw-gif-5461800

[fair gull]

thats some slow ass sd card

[fair gull]

ya but generalizing it is wrong

[thick elk]

There is some middle ground here. I have a 512gb Samsung pro plus in my deck and its performance is reasonable.

It's definitely more expensive than the cheapest micro sd's but € 70 for 500gb is still quite reasonable.

https://steamuserimages-a.akamaihd.net/ugc/1999068338947958338/F8AF2320C230C3654454B4910EF72895706FE8A6/

mostly bottlenecked by wireless but still.

disk usage just jumped to roughly 83MB/s

[sharp badger]

https://steamcommunity.com/app/1675200/discussions/0/3269061071528807540/?ctp=5 Can apparently ''Trim'' them

But yeah seems like Valve would need to change from UHS-I to UHS-II for better speeds

[pale sigil]

It's mostly because I wanted 1tb

And SanDisk ultra was on offer

I don't regret it nor would I change my mind to get more speed really

Was a genuine good deal for 1tb and I only use 200gb left specs wise so I'm using it well

[pale sigil]

Tbh I thought about that but as said above I just chose more space over speed.

I have a faster SD card just for windows though

[violet breach]

Guys I have a wooting 60he and it types by itself sometimes does anyone know how to fix this?

[ashen spindle]

replug it

[violet breach]

I try it

[ashen spindle]

#1019755933959733258 for more if that doesnt fix it

[violet breach]

Doesn’t change anything

Ok ty

[pale sigil]

If you're using a third party usb cable then there's a good chance this is the issue

Or a USB dock/switcher that's cheap

[thick elk]

Fair enough, I really have little use for that much space. My internet is fast enough and it's not like I play 10+ games at the same time.

[pale sigil]

I mean tbf I'm the same in regards to fast internet, I just don't wanna have to worry about it on the go.

[thick elk]

Fair enough, still I can preload enough for a longer vacation even with 256+512

[pale sigil]

Also a lot of my games are 100gb+

Lol

[thick elk]

Even then, I really only need 3 max installed at a time. But yea my backlog is a bit further back so I don't have a lot of those

[pale sigil]

Hue

It's much more but I don't really track everything lol

I think I'm just a days whore at heart.

[thick elk]

My backlog is vague and poorly defined. Still, most of the time I end up playing games from the mid to late 2010s.

[pale sigil]

I still wanna finish assassin's creed once and for all

[thick elk]

I dropped the series after trying both 1 and 2 then deciding I didn't like it. The later entries did not seem too compelling either, so that was basically the end.

[pale sigil]

I loved black flag

So so so so so much

I've tried so so so much to get into ones after and I just couldn't

[vagrant moss]

anyone here a audio peripheral nerd like me?

Was wondering if the IEM 300 from sennheiser pairs well with the Audient EVO 8?

[vagrant pagoda]

i am, but i do speakers

[final flame]

I wouldn't recommend any of Sennheiser's iem audio line except the ie600

[vagrant moss]

whys that?

[final flame]

ie600 is the only iem that is tuned well
all their other iems have tuning quirks that aren't very good

I have no idea how well their recievers work

[vagrant moss]

hmm

okay

Is the Audient EVO 8 good to pair with then?

[final flame]

what are you planning to do?

[vagrant moss]

streaming and some comp gaming

[final flame]

and why were you asking about a sennheiser reciever?

[vagrant moss]

wdym

[final flame]

this is the iem 300

[vagrant moss]

i meant the IE300 lol

thats my fault

[final flame]

what's your budget?

for the iem

[vagrant moss]

atmost 300

[final flame]

it comes with a reciever but the box is a transmitter my bad

[final flame]

I'd say the moondrop kato is your best bet or if you're willing to get something a little more expensive blessing 2

the 7hz timeless is also a good option

[vagrant moss]

ohh okay

tysm

[final flame]

np

[final flame]

and also for the interface I'd reccomend using a motu m2 instead

[fair gull]

so according to the thread the deck formatter is fucked

[vagrant moss]

alrighty ill take a look

[final flame]

topping sells interfaces?

[sharp badger]

Yeah https://www.reddit.com/r/SteamDeck/comments/wk48bh/slow_micro_sd_download_speeds_fix_for_some/ ''The TLDR; use another format utility to erase the partitions and reformat to ext4 instead of the built in Steam formatter.''

[gusty kiln]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F1rLnICOzDU

seems decent

though I'm not in a market for headphones over 300 grams

[sharp badger]

Looks clean

[ashen spindle]

hm looks like MSI afterburner wil not be getting any further developement

russian dev apparently so cant really get funding and all

and basically didnt get anything new for almost a year now

well here its more like the last straw since it was already being dropped before the war started

[pale sigil]

Does evgas shit work on all GPUs?

[ashen spindle]

idk never used it

[pale sigil]

It's basically a copy

[ashen spindle]

not really

[pale sigil]

But I always thought msi afterburner was made via MSI

Like in house Vs just a russian Dev

[ashen spindle]

its from the RTSS dev

[pale sigil]

I see

[ashen spindle]

thats why it has RTSS stuff in it and why its used a lot more than evgas for one part

rtss is not affected by it, just afterburner

[pale sigil]

So wait, MSI literally just added the company name?

Or well paid for that.

[ashen spindle]

evga only has nvidia support I think

[pale sigil]

Ye

[ashen spindle]

idk what the deal is, I assume they help out with hardware stuff that nvidia wouldnt give to random devs

[pale sigil]

Tis a shame regardless

Maybe MSI can fully buy and continue development but I doubt it

[ashen spindle]

dont think they can

since yknow would mean paying the russian dev

[pale sigil]

Oh right ye

Damn Russians

[gusty kiln]

AMD have adrenaline at least

[ashen spindle]

yeah but that is limited, still more than nvidia has though lol

imagine needing to log in to oc/uv your card lol

[gusty kiln]

[pale sigil]

Wait what

[ashen spindle]

?

[pale sigil]

Oh right yes I remember.

Via geforce experience

I forgot you can of and shit on it

It is bs though having to log in.

£1300 isn't enough, they want that sweet sweet data too

[pale sigil]

Played with that the other day, I was pleasantly surprised.

[pale sigil]

Can't say I've had that issue thankfully

Unless I ddu wipe my driver's

[ashen spindle]

same, because I have not had GFE installed since I used it to redeem a code 4+ years ago

[pale sigil]

I let people redeem their codes for a fee with my GPU

Ever since they required GFE and a GPU I made a few quid via Reddit

[fair gull]

i mean it did have gamestream before that got killed off

moonlight doesnt stream

moonlight needs sunshine or GFE GS

and GFE GS is currently still better than sunshine in terms of stability and features

GFE GS has an encode time of 1ms and supports HDR

sunshine takes around 8ms encode and does not do HDR. it also has micro stutters and only GPU encode so if youre GPU is in high use due to a game itll fall off FPS

i used both

and i still prefer GFE GS over sunshine

and moonlight does indeed not stream anything its only a client replacement for GFE GS

idk how i would be a meme for telling you whats up with moonlight and the 2 streaming servers there are at the time of writing this

[little raptor]

Do we know the price for founders?

[pale sigil]

Oh right ye that's another reason I use gfe

Moonlight

I use it a lot

[ashen spindle]

that sounds like a pr person trying to say something they thought they understood but didn't xD

[solemn elbow]

can anyone help me wit my adio mixer i have 2 pcs for streaming i can pay$

[pale sigil]

What do you mean?

Your message is a bit confusing.

[vocal cipher]

if you could pay for my flight and accommodation as well, why not

[pale sigil]

Lmao

[gusty kiln]

are those controllers only or also a tablet?

[pale sigil]

Tablet

Just streams basically and plays android games

It's Snapdragon

[gusty kiln]

ew

bet they are pivoting heavily into game streaming

[pale sigil]

It's the cheapest way to grab the portable gaming hype