ustream is the actual largest streaming platform
#🔌│tech
astral haven
nvidia, intel, govs
vagrant pagoda
offer it to donators?
astral haven
🤷 why game only?
vagrant pagoda
why would you stream on twtich and ustream then
astral haven
cause its a big event?
vagrant pagoda
then they arent doing local reencoding lol
astral haven
also ustream has live content moderation which can sometimes break streams
astral haven
then they arent doing local reencoding lol
someone has to
vagrant pagoda
if youre doing that big you would you would rencode on clouds
and use your total bandwith to send the most consistant stream
vagrant pagoda
yeah
and youd sending best qauilty to the cloud
so cpu encode
lol
then from there who ever youre paying for a cdn sure isnt using consumer gpus
astral haven
🤷 if they could, they would
astral haven
restreams cheapest plan only supports 1:2
vagrant pagoda
you just gave nvidia intel and goverenments as a example for who would use it, then used the bottom dollar plan from some 2bit service lol
astral haven
🤷 because nvidia intel and governments cant use it thanks to the 2 stream limitation
reef patrol
vagrant pagoda
a single server in a datacenter with a single quadro gpu can rencode 10-20 1080p bit rates at once
lol
i have a p600 in my plex server and it will do at least 15
maybe more never tried
astral haven
yep
vagrant pagoda
but you only need one per bitrate/res
as you can cdn it without rencoding
the big cost isnt the hardare to rencode its bandwith
which again idk why you need more than 2 encoders
its cool tech
astral haven
if you are targeting 360p, 480p, 720p, 1080p, 1440p, and 4k its alot harder
astral haven
yep
vagrant pagoda
and they are $100
astral haven
not with a support contract
astral haven
yay efficiency
astral haven
they need to fix that power draw
fixed on rdna3+ and apus apparently
but n33 and n32 are apparently screwed
fickle ore
fixed on rdna3+ and apus apparently
but n33 and n32 are apparently screwed
Does that mean all the amd gpu releases soon to follow as well?
astral haven
if they are within the next 6 months, yes
fickle ore
-.-'
astral haven
same
ashen spindle
n32 should already be fixed
ashen spindle
because its also not coming out in the next 6 months lmfao
fickle ore
tf is n32? 7700/7800?
astral haven
also its not that terrible
But quinn is very sad
cause thats using identical monitors...
ashen spindle
nah thats already a known issue and they are working on a fix for it
astral haven
lucky me with my near free electricity
who doesnt even use his pc thanks to the deck +nreal
ashen spindle
haha
also dear god how many hours at max load is that guy playing daily for that to come close
fair gull
24/7
astral haven
time of use probably hurts alot
our expensive time of use rate is right when i like to game
ashen spindle
not really because almost no power company does energy cost based on time of day afaik
astral haven
in germany?
ashen spindle
could be wrong because I've always had a flatrate so mine doesnt change at all lol
fickle ore
not really because almost no power company does energy cost based on time of day...
What. Nearly all electricity is spot priced
vagrant pagoda
could be wrong because I've always had a flatrate so mine doesnt change at all l...
techically if you have solar
here they do hourly rate
even if you arent making solar
they do it to fuck solar users
astral haven
fickle ore
here they do hourly rate
hourly? look again, every 15 mins
vagrant pagoda
i said here
fickle ore
i said here
where is the here
vagrant pagoda
its different everywhere
ashen spindle
nah I have 21 cent/kWh for the next 2 years fixed lol
astral haven
we pay 21c per kwh and we get paid .06c for every kwh we put back
ashen spindle
solar is coming and that wont change anything, they cant change stuff here
marsh glade
not really because almost no power company does energy cost based on time of day...
Every single energy distributer does this without fail, you just don't get charged that way as a retail consumer
vagrant pagoda
the worst i see is 14c/kwh
astral haven
its still too cheap to matter
ye thats us
alot of places in the world are over 60c
ashen spindle
Every single energy distributer does this without fail, you just don't get charg...
yeah fair enough that was what I meant
fickle ore
Look here for EU spot prices
https://www.nordpoolgroup.com/en/Market-data1/Dayahead/Area-Prices/ALL1/Hourly/?view=table
vagrant pagoda
i mean thats wat 0.67 at the worst?
reef patrol
Hourly rates are so common in Denmark, that our biggest tabloid has literally had this widget on their website since the prices went up months ago. 😄
marsh glade
I do know that some energy companies will offer cheaper rates during off-peak hours, some even offer "free" electricity during night time hours (run your dryer overnight)
reef patrol
Yes - That is a flat 1€ per kWh right now.
ashen spindle
yes I know thats how it is elsewhere but since the reddit comment specifically talked about germany I was only referring to what I know about here
vagrant pagoda
Yes - That is a flat 1€ per kWh right now.
oof
astral haven
dont yall have a bazillion electric cars?
or is that norway
vagrant pagoda
yall need some nukes
reef patrol
dont yall have a bazillion electric cars?
or is that norway
We have some, Norway's the oil vikings.
fickle ore
@reef patrol next 2 days are fked man
reef patrol
Suffice to say mining was never super attractive here. 
astral haven
We have some, Norway's the oil vikings.
ye but ive been watching electric car reviews and people make trips to one of the Scandinavian countries to see all the electric cars
vagrant pagoda
how can it cost that much to make power lol
astral haven
its norway
marsh glade
Suffice to say mining was never super attractive here. <:hyper_wah:6436679148759...
Actually your power grid uses Bitcoin mining to absorb energy when your offshore wind turbines are at max
fickle ore
how can it cost that much to make power lol
it doesn't. It's the futures market (hedging really). Creating electricity costs 2 cents/kwh. They are making 20x the profit atm.
marsh glade
Preferable compared against shutting off turbines
vagrant pagoda
and you let them fuck you that hard?
astral haven
tropic nacelle
UK isn't even on the list haha
fickle ore
and you let them fuck you that hard?
Yeah Im totally gonna go knock on their door alone bruv
reef patrol
Actually your power grid uses Bitcoin mining to absorb energy when your offshore...
Our grid is just a legal minefield. You can't sell back the power you make from solar to the grid at anywhere near what you pay in the first place, and permits and redtape is just painful.
vagrant pagoda
Our grid is just a legal minefield. You can't sell back the power you make from ...
thats everywhere
reef patrol
Of course this all isn't helped by Sweden shutting off nuclear reactors for maintenance right when the wind is low. Price go up
astral haven
im so hype for v2g or v2h
vagrant pagoda
you cant get full price for solar back feed
reef patrol
you cant get full price for solar back feed
We can't get anything. It's like.... a single digit percentage or something.
You use it for heating, not power. Because the government claims green power with one hand, and lets corporations earn the money with the other from massive farms 😄
astral haven
you cant get full price for solar back feed
you can if you have a battery lel
vagrant pagoda
its because you cant make consistant power
fickle ore
im so hype for v2g or v2h
Im way more hype for the first successful fusion test, where less energy was spent than gained 🙂
vagrant pagoda
so its hard to plan for
so the grid has a hard time using it
grid is all about planning
astral haven
so the grid has a hard time using it
nah its actually pretty easy
vagrant pagoda
until we have more energy storage
astral haven
it just puts alot of load on peaker plants
vagrant pagoda
inorder to use customer feed solar, they have to decrease generation
which is great if you can plan for it
astral haven
you can plan just about as well
vagrant pagoda
even grid solar gets shit rates for payment
astral haven
dunno why you think that
vagrant pagoda
i looked in to it
and asked
i though about doing an acre or 2 of solar
but the roi is 20 years lol
astral haven
yea you arent ordering from the right folks
vagrant pagoda
all of the near by solar farms are real estate hedges no solar farms
tropic nacelle
Wow how much land mass do you own?? Just casually put down solar farms on an acre or two.
Haha
vagrant pagoda
cost is about 300-400k per acre after counting it all up
astral haven
cost is about 300-400k per acre after counting it all up
thats fkn stupid expensive land wtf
astral haven
uh
ashen spindle
ok so last I found was that 7% of the installed electricity counters are ones that use different electricity cost for throughout the day, with 22-6 being the cheaper period or so, otherwise basically nobody here seems to have electricity costs that are changing within the same day
vagrant pagoda
thats for only 2 acres
astral haven
are you using monocrystalline panels or something????
ashen spindle
so no, when you use your gpu doesnt really matter
vagrant pagoda
which here is litte more 1/4 mega watt
vagrant pagoda
are you using monocrystalline panels or something????
making the land flat, installing the poles, the wiring the control system
installing the sub station
plus transformers
astral haven
so no, when you use your gpu doesnt really matter
maybe you are near a hydro station, but there are places that have time of use in every country
ashen spindle
yes I just said that about 7% of households seem to have a counter that works with it lmfao
astral haven
in all of germany?
fickle ore
so no, when you use your gpu doesnt really matter
you becoming NA lol
tropic nacelle
ok so last I found was that 7% of the installed electricity counters are ones th...
For England we still have a few doing old times where there were two prices for off peak and on peak but that mostly got phased out over the last decade.
For a normal end user you tend to pay a normal rate not time based rate.
They were talking about actual energy market prices which have no bearing on that GPU usage tweet you are right
vagrant pagoda
are you using monocrystalline panels or something????
idk where you prices solar but it isnt cheap lol
astral haven
speaking of tho im gonna buy a car that charges (havent decided ev or phev)
ashen spindle
in all of germany?
given that I even needed to find info because nobody here ever used it in the house or really knew about it, yeah I believe so
ashen spindle
idk where you prices solar but it isnt cheap lol
how much does a panel cost for you
fickle ore
ok so last I found was that 7% of the installed electricity counters are ones th...
U don't need a counter, they can read it remotely how much you're pulling.
ashen spindle
I'm not sure if that would be legal if I cant check how much I'll have to pay lol
tropic nacelle
Sad, looked at the meter and spent £7 so far on gas heating today xD. These energy prices are fun
ashen spindle
either way it's just not a big thing here
fickle ore
I'm not sure if that would be legal if I cant check how much I'll have to pay lo...
My dude. I can check online how much I spend by the hour. That frequency is increasing to 15 minutes by next year.
They read all remotely here in Finland
ashen spindle
yes but are you in germany?
fickle ore
yes but are you in germany?
I guess we're advanced species
ashen spindle
you think too highly of our infrastructure if you think we can do most things remotely lmfao
tropic nacelle
Yes it generates a reading every 15 minutes but the rate you pay is generally fixed for a whole day at least
fickle ore
Yes it generates a reading every 15 minutes but the rate you pay is generally fi...
Well ultimately if it reads every 15 mins, you're paying it in the daily average
vagrant pagoda
if i could do it for half that i would
tropic nacelle
Well ultimately if it reads every 15 mins, you're paying it in the daily average
No no, the price per unit you have with your supplier doesn't specify X hours in a day is 5p Vs Y hours in a day at 20p does it?
fickle ore
wtf is p? Pence?
vagrant pagoda
id love for that and the same size of battery for under 500k
tropic nacelle
Or does no one work like the UK anymore? Like we agree a price from the supplier, they change it often but it's not changing every day.
tropic nacelle
wtf is p? Pence?
Yes haha
That was the point being made, using 500w at 10am isn't any different to 500w at 3pm for most people's bills
fickle ore
O_o that seems odd..
vagrant pagoda
but again
my peak rate is 14c a khw
night time is as low as 5
so id be better with battery than solar here lol
which is why i have both lol
fickle ore
I guess you're still on the fixed pay plans from 1-2 years back when there was no energy crises. I was too. I mean my last 2 year plan was 0.06€/kwh. But it ended, and they're not DOING those anymore. You only get SPOT plans now.
vagrant pagoda
only time i import is when i work on the panels/system
the other thing is if you have a large battery system
the power co has no program for demanding power
so you can only set it at fixed rate for them
they do give you like 4 times as much for it than solar
astral haven
so id be better with battery than solar here lol
thats basically true everywhere
tropic nacelle
so id be better with battery than solar here lol
Really?
You don't get sun at night and it's cheaper at night so actually just solar is better for you if it's a choice surely?
You get the sun power during the day when it's most expensive and top up during the night.
vagrant pagoda
Really?
You don't get sun at night and it's cheaper at night so actually just so...
yeah but 14 v 4c
id be hard to make enough to offset it
suck in the power at 5/4c
fickle ore
if u got a boiler, only heat it during night
tropic nacelle
if u got a boiler, only heat it during night
That's assuming you have a well insulated home hahaha
astral haven
if u got a boiler, only heat it during night
solar water heater
vagrant pagoda
but still paying 10c morning and night
ashen spindle
luckily soon I wont really need to care about spot pricing or anything that much anymore anyway
vagrant pagoda
solar water heater <:stevedab:576858791497433161>
pv+heatpump water heater
astral haven
luckily soon I wont really need to care about spot pricing or anything that much...
you getting microinverters?
fickle ore
solar water heater <:stevedab:576858791497433161>
My water is heated via heat exchanger and the hot water comes from district heating. Best imho. 😄
vagrant pagoda
i have a fancy one with high temp tank and mixing vavle
fickle ore
my hot water never ends
vagrant pagoda
well two of them
astral haven
pv+heatpump water heater
thats over a grand lel
you can make a solar heater for like $100 of parts, with about $100 of electronics to circulate it in the house
astral haven
but that uses electricity
fickle ore
Btw not to piss on your electoconvo, but hows this for a deal?
vagrant pagoda
the cool one is my hot tub is fancy enough to only heat dfuring the day
it links to solar
crimson wigeon
Not great but I did think about it for a hot second
ashen spindle
Btw not to piss on your electoconvo, but hows this for a deal?
shit deal lol normal price
fickle ore
fml
crimson wigeon
Nah you see right there normal price is 564!
astral haven
the cool one is my hot tub is fancy enough to only heat dfuring the day
our dumbass solar heater tho will blowoff its antifreeze if we leave it too long without circulating the water tho
vagrant pagoda
you can get 6900s for 700 usd lol
ashen spindle
you getting microinverters?
uhh would need to check but I think we're getting a string inverter instead
astral haven
1 or multiple?
astral haven
its true tho that there are some super smart single string units
crimson wigeon
Everything's just giga expensive here in Europa especially up north
ashen spindle
uhh yeah dont know where I wrote down the exact model but some 3 phase string inverter that can do up to 20kw
astral haven
naisu
is it microgrid capable?
fickle ore
Everything's just giga expensive here in Europa especially up north
idk how jimms can keep these prices, nobodys prob buying shit
tropic nacelle
I guess the argument is healthcare haha.
Don't most US states have sales tax anyway? They just don't show it as it would differ state to state which is confusing at best.
astral haven
I guess the argument is healthcare haha.
Don't most US states have sales tax an...
yep
its also relatively low
and many cities also add on their own sales tax
fickle ore
luckily soon I wont really need to care about spot pricing or anything that much...
where ya plugging those in a condo?
ashen spindle
condo? what
fickle ore
lol maybe it wasnt you
tropic nacelle
and many cities also add on their own sales tax
Even cities can be different? I just thought it was state differences, the more you know!
astral haven
at an online store?
vagrant pagoda
I guess the argument is healthcare haha.
Don't most US states have sales tax an...
7.5% in florida lol
astral haven
dont use doordash?
tropic nacelle
Makes it interesting for comparison, when people say it's expensive they can get it for 700$ in the US do they just tend to forget/ignore the tax added on?
Whereas the EUand UK markets force VAT to be shown at the point of sale or at least clear so we always include it
astral haven
Makes it interesting for comparison, when people say it's expensive they can get...
now you see why the us has a hundred billion bucks of credit card debt or whatever
tropic nacelle
My friend went to blizcon and he says he loved it but can't stand the shopping experience, contactless cards seems to not be a thing and the price on the sticker isn't what you pay so he was always confused by prices having to work it out haha
ashen spindle
naisu
is it microgrid capable?
cant find the model so cant check but since a battery system is planned for next year I would assume so lol
astral haven
awesome
fickle ore
Whats the efficiency on those pv's?
ashen spindle
My friend went to blizcon and he says he loved it but can't stand the shopping e...
I was so confused when I paid for breakfast the first time in america and they just left with my card, was about to run after them thinking they stole my card lmfao
astral haven
My friend went to blizcon and he says he loved it but can't stand the shopping e...
contactless is relatively common its just not advertised much
crisp granite
7.5% in florida lol
dude
that's nothing for sales tax
I hope that's the low end for the US
ashen spindle
Whats the efficiency on those pv's?
410W
astral haven
dude
that's nothing for sales tax
yes but its alot for something that isnt even on the sticker
astral haven
I hope that's the low end for the US
its not really tbh lel
crisp granite
yes but its alot for something that isnt even on the sticker
¯_(ツ)_/¯
vagrant pagoda
4 states have no sales tax lol
crisp granite
idk, would you rather a price that's 7.5% more than it actually is worth?
crisp granite
4 states have no sales tax lol
...ew
ashen spindle
naisu
is it microgrid capable?
ah found the model, yeah it can do all the things it should do
I know I looked over all things when we started this project but thats been months in the past already lmfao
which is a good thing, because now that we finish the installation in 2023 and not 2022 we gain the new tax advantage of 0% VAT on everything lol
astral haven
holy actual shit
thats just the us
1.1 trillion of debt
I wonder if that counts stuff that is paid off monthly tho
because literally everything ive paid for in the past 5+ years has been "debt" for 2 months...
vagrant pagoda
because literally everything ive paid for in the past 5+ years has been "debt" f...
did it do a credit check?
vagrant pagoda
than that counts
wheat plume
Anyone know a good font to use for my OS that has all the correct symbols and shit?
Like the music names and sometimes in Discord too, I just see empty rectangles instead
vagrant pagoda
i use consolas lol
astral haven
Anyone know a good font to use for my OS that has all the correct symbols and sh...
whats wrong with stock?
wheat plume
This is stock
wheat plume
i use consolas lol
for OS font??
astral haven
oh jeez
astral haven
for OS font??
personally I use 3 of 9 barcode
crimson wigeon
For the hacker vibes
crimson wigeon
Just install the full pack unless you already have
By default you might not get all the CJK stuff and such
wheat plume
there is a fuck ton of Noto fonts on the system
vagrant pagoda
not doing a good job, is it?
its in an other language
wheat plume
Exactly 221 of them
yeah, but if the font has the character, it typically uses it even if its a different language to the system, right?
ashen spindle
huh?
why would they not use the data for comparison?
ok then you get an empty graph with the new gpu and only links to old data
not really usefull
there is a thing called limited time
has there even been a WD:L driver that changed anything?
astral haven
you mean whql?
techpowerup just did a reset which is why their graphs are so empty
pretty sure techpowerup was the only one to run their full test suite comparing the two lel
god im so sad about rdna3
well i suppose its more cash i can put into getting a car lel
meh
get a good waterblock
ashen spindle
glue it down
astral haven
ye lel
whats the name of that channel that made the insane thermal adhesive?
techingredients?
ashen spindle
yea
crisp granite
if there was anything to scare me away from the 7900XTX
it would have been that
the GN clip of that
yikes lol
FC6 was one of the partner games for AMD's tech
makes sense it would perform better than NVidia's offerings in it
ashen spindle
does that mean der8auers clip of just as bad coil whine is scaring you away from a 4090?
ashen spindle
no its running into blocks of pure copium because it shows fixed N31 will totally beat 4090
wheat plume
I fixed the font issues...I need the noto-fonts-cjk family installed
got to remember that if it happens again
proud girder
astral haven
actually exodus rt is relatively good for amd
well no
it just doesnt use much rt
the more rays traced the further amd falls behind
eh
it is very effective
but it doesnt do much
what it does do is impactful tho
i am kinda surprised tho that amd managed to hit ampere rt perf
i suspect tho that it is getting hard carried by raster
havent finished yet
3090 just aint speedy enough for my liking
and now that ive upgraded my monitor im confident perf got worse...
yea im talking dlss on perf...
sharp badger
sharp badger
Yeah was thinking that EVE had some problems 😅
cursive summit
Lol what
That's a massive dealbreaker
I like my RX 5700 cause it consumes literally nothing in most scenarios when browsing is concerned
150W when doing nothing is ridiculous
ashen spindle
yes its a known bug they said they are working on it
cursive summit
I'd hope so
Otherwise I'll have to look into last gen card instead
Tbf now that I think about it, isn't 70W when doing absolutely nothing also kinda high?
Maybe I'm just a bit too used to how power efficient this thing is
But that's kinda high for idle
That's more like it
I guess the difference is whole setup vs only the GPU
ashen spindle
the entire thing is a brutal thing to ship out, but you cant really delay it till the silicon is fixed and have 6 months of no competition
+shareholders want stuff in the year it was announced for
pale sigil
Jesus that power consumption
vagrant pagoda
?
cursive summit
"Added ray traced global illumination and ambient occlusion.
Additionally, PC players with compatible hardware have an additional option to turn on ray traced reflections and shadows."
vagrant pagoda
you can
cursive summit
Hold on now, ray traced global illumination is now default on all hardware?
pale sigil
Gwent is poo anyway.
cursive summit
Why'd they exclude only shadows and reflections for "compatible hardware" and normal RT has no limitations according to their list?
astral haven
alot of people speak chinese outside of china
tropic nacelle
Gwent is poo anyway.
Heresy! It's an excellent game in a game!
astral haven
https://www.ebay.com/itm/254389708086
when w3 was released on switch, hong kong wasnt invaded by china yet lel
vagrant pagoda
lol
ashen spindle
Anyways what's the reformed orthodox rabbi Bill Clinton doing?
being an attention seeking 15 year old we should pay no attention to is what he's doing
cursive summit
It's funny af you know 
pale sigil
crisp granite
People forget Macau completely
🇵🇹 
pale sigil
Taiwan is nearly there.
cursive summit
Tibet's the saddest part honestly
reef patrol
If China invades Taiwan that's going to cause on hell of a lukewarm war.
pale sigil
Mhmm
cursive summit
China has 0 chance of invading Taiwan
reef patrol
Too many western interests, including Japan.
pale sigil
Would be a disaster
crisp granite
If China invades Taiwan that's going to cause on hell of a lukewarm war.
cold war put in the microwave for 15 seconds
astral haven
hope not
reef patrol
cold war put in the microwave for 15 seconds
DEFCON BAKED ALASKA
cursive summit
Taiwan is a naval invasion, against a country that is actually fairly technologically sophisticated and backed by the strongest military alliance in the world
Idc if you are Russia, China or whatever, Taiwan won't fall even if U.S doesn't help
astral haven
no its not backed by any alliance lel
crisp granite
no its not backed by any alliance lel
^^
it's backed by...
a prospect of the US protecting them purely for their economic and military interests
astral haven
duct tape and hope basically
cursive summit
If China goes into war with Taiwan I don't believe NATO will sit idly just cause of the devastating consequences that would happen if they do fall
They won't though, so chill out
pale sigil
China already started.
crisp granite
If China goes into war with Taiwan I don't believe NATO will sit idly just cause...
NATO is European-NA East
if anything they'll happily pour money into the US Military to fight their war for em
cursive summit
Meh
astral haven
taiwan as unlimted export from us for milatry and weapons
thats nooooot how that works lel
cursive summit
Idk how you people are underestimating Taiwanese military industries, those people are cracked
astral haven
Taiwan could happily defend itself honestly
taiwan is not israel
cursive summit
Taiwan has invested heavily into the correct industries, they might suck in ground forces, but fuck me are they ahead in missiles and air industry even in western standards
astral haven
tsmc is trying to evacuate
and theres not a whole ton more that we need from there...
cursive summit
You won't pull off a naval invasion successfully against Taiwan without taking major losses, they made sure of that
astral haven
You won't pull off a naval invasion successfully against Taiwan without taking m...
thats the power of having the most populous country on the planet
reef patrol
You won't pull off a naval invasion successfully against Taiwan without taking m...
If only you had a population of billions.
Oh.
cursive summit
How do you intend to ship the population of billions across a 140km strait without getting shot down
pale sigil
Irrc china do military exercises against Taiwan and have shown to be prepping.
astral haven
How do you intend to ship the population of billions across a 140km strait witho...
theres only so much ammo on the island...
pale sigil
Amongst other shit
cursive summit
they have m1 abrams
Not that many
Also tanks will be the last of Taiwan's backbone in case of war
reef patrol
How do you intend to ship the population of billions across a 140km strait witho...
You just keep on sending more than more. This is Russia/China's approach to war. Casualties don't really matter. Just throw more at the problem 😄
astral haven
thats not that many
cursive summit
There are people smarter than any of us here that have done calculations with military intelligence resources
I know one that has top secret clearance in the U.S
Taiwan will not fall, you can be assured of that
vagrant pagoda
selling taiwan tanks was one of the best things trump did
astral haven
Taiwan will not fall, you can be assured of that
taiwan will fall the second china actually needs it to...
reef patrol
Taiwan will not fall, you can be assured of that
I hope not - But I don't deal in hope 😄
cursive summit
It won't
China's our biggest potential enemy but even they can't do the impossible
You don't just invade an island without getting your navy blown out of the water
pale sigil
Didn't people say Putin wouldn't invade Ukraine, not that it's the same level but still.
astral haven
You don't just invade an island without getting your navy blown out of the water
well thats obviously not true lmao
china already invaded
they just didnt take over
cursive summit
The same exact reasons why China does not fully back, to our knowledge, Russia
China is far too reliant on exports
astral haven
yea they put so many military vehicles in taiwan several years ago
cursive summit
You peeps seriously underestimate Taiwanese local homegrown military industries
pale sigil
Don't they also fly over regularly
cursive summit
They are far from slouches
pale sigil
And ships
vagrant pagoda
its more like invading taiwan would put into question is PRC is the legit govenrment of china worldwide
astral haven
its more like invading taiwan would put into question is PRC is the legit govenr...
yap
they arent invading because they dont need to
vagrant pagoda
people forget they are techially still rebels
cursive summit
people forget they are techially still rebels
More like the actually legit government that got overthrown
How the turntables
vagrant pagoda
More like the actually legit government that got overthrown
im talking about prc
cursive summit
Ah
PRC has always been the asshole in world politics
Invade that, steal their shit from there
astral haven
people forget they are techially still rebels
same could be said for the us tho lmao
cursive summit
Meh, Taiwan won't fall in case of a war, that's all that matters
vagrant pagoda
ending the war
cursive summit
And the best case is that there will be no war cause there's literally no reason for there to be a war
vagrant pagoda
no such agreement exists for ROC and PRC
cursive summit
Honestly, we should probably thank the war in Ukraine for the fact that Taiwan will not see the war
China could have invaded if they felt cocky
But after Russian complete military collapse and how fucked they are, China will not attempt such themselves
astral haven
Meh, Taiwan won't fall in case of a war, that's all that matters
no
there wont be a war, however taiwan would fall if there was a war
cursive summit
Taiwan won't fall if there was a war
vagrant pagoda
Honestly, we should probably thank the war in Ukraine for the fact that Taiwan w...
no you can thank the seventh fleet and japan
astral haven
Taiwan won't fall if there was a war
i dont think you understand
cursive summit
I'm not sure what your sources are, but U.S military intelligence says otherwise
And I trust U.S milint
crisp granite
I'm not sure what your sources are, but U.S military intelligence says otherwise
care to post it >:)
astral haven
😛
us mil intelligence says that so that people wont panik
but its alot more complicated than that lel
ashen spindle
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BMKK6z__tXM have a look at some pcb and take your brains away from military coups
cursive summit
us mil intelligence says that so that people wont panik
That's not the case
astral haven
you can generally assume that any "publicly known milint" is counterinformation...
vagrant pagoda
its not that taiwan wont get leveled
its that china will not survive to take the island
cursive summit
If you have a friend high up in the milint ranks that actually is responsible for all the research, calculations and simulations of military wargames and they say, unintentially, that the won't be successful invasion, I trust what they say
astral haven
🤷 you shouldnt trust anything they say lel
cursive summit
I trust peeps with TS/SCI clearance
Especially when they leak their own docs
That's fun
astral haven
I trust peeps with TS/SCI clearance
the information they know and the information they say is very different lel
cursive summit
and you brag about it
I'm not under any security contract so, who cares
Not that I live in the U.S either
astral haven
🤨
cursive summit
Just saying, peeps with far more info, resources and capabilities have done the calculations and you can rest assured there won't be a successful Taiwanese invasion
astral haven
and you think that you can get any true info from anyone with any clearance????
ashen spindle
just because sometimes idiots leak secret plans to make world of warships simulations accurate doesnt mean that regular people with security clearance leak true info to randoes on the web
cursive summit
only if they are drunk a bit cough
astral haven
lel
marsh glade
Nice, I can cross off "discussions about top secret documents" on my Wooting discord BINGO card
vagrant pagoda
as someone who knows someone with actual clearance to the point i get inverviews every few years beacuse of it, they aint saying shit
if they even got close to telling you anything they would goto prison
all of thier personal devices are monitored
cursive summit
Nice, I can cross off "discussions about top secret documents" on my Wooting dis...
I can share some Chinese military documents if you want
marsh glade
Only in #🐸│memes
vagrant pagoda
techically discord is us based, and us dose not reconize china as an ally, so nothing of thiers is consided classified in discord lol
cursive summit
all of thier personal devices are monitored
That is actually not that true
vagrant pagoda
That is actually not that true
it is 100% lol
astral haven
That is actually not that true
snowden would like to have a word lel
vagrant pagoda
sci/sap is big deal
cursive summit
The thing is that, if you actually in theory, retire, your clearance doesn't get void
Weird thing in Americas
vagrant pagoda
The thing is that, if you actually in theory, retire, your clearance doesn't get...
it dose for any sci/sap
cursive summit
Not for TS/SCI
astral haven
The thing is that, if you actually in theory, retire, your clearance doesn't get...
not being allowed to say anything for fear of death is not the same thing as being privvy to the info lel
cursive summit
They are kinda trigger happy honestly
astral haven
you have to keep secret everything you were told
vagrant pagoda
not being allowed to say anything for fear of death is not the same thing as bei...
worst than death
astral haven
but you wont get any new info
cursive summit
One day we were discussing with a bunch of folks Ukraine before the war and how we thought Russia will never invade
vagrant pagoda
florence is definitly worst then death
cursive summit
The secret intelligence lad just comes in and "yeah they will invade in 2 days, we got the sat info on that"
Low and behold, literally invaded
astral haven
One day we were discussing with a bunch of folks Ukraine before the war and how ...
🤔 😛
cursive summit
We discuss the ukraine war stuff quite a bit
Kind of funny to knock on Russia for how shit they are, but the war is nowhere near over sadly
vagrant pagoda
i mean
pale sigil
I'd hope so
?
vagrant pagoda
you can keep thowing people
then it will last for ever
gotta run out of money or people
crisp granite
you can keep thowing people
but equipping them is expensive
vagrant pagoda
but equipping them is expensive
not for russia
astral haven
then it will last for ever
yep
but russia already has the food production...
vagrant pagoda
they get toys
crisp granite
they only have so much cold war surplus to restore to semi functional condition
cursive summit
but equipping them is expensive
Not if you give em shit from the great war
crisp granite
Not if you give em shit from the great war
"the war to end all wars"
astral haven
yep and the moment the us thinks they will lose, the fancy equipment will stop flowing in...
crisp granite
that gear dusted off and reissued over half a century after it was declared obsolete
cursive summit
It's a pity at how poorly armed those LPR DPR folks are
They just get given shit from 1890
Russia isn't any better either, they don't even have clothes
crisp granite
meanwhile Chechen fighters
cursive summit
meanwhile Chechen fighters
Or good old terrorist Wagner
crisp granite
They just get given shit from 1890
can't wait to see a Berdan II issued
the predecessor to the M1891
single shot, black powder
cursive summit
I wonder at which point do they go back to sticks and stones
Russian top secret javelin technology
crisp granite
I wonder at which point do they go back to sticks and stones
nah
cursive summit
Throw a spear at a BTR-3
crisp granite
making bent sheet metal SMGs will always be cheaper than that
cursive summit
making bent sheet metal SMGs will always be cheaper than that
Grease gun isn't that shit alright
crisp granite
I never said it was
that and...tbh
ruski kalashes are already almost entirely stamped
vagrant pagoda
sten is cheaper than m3
crisp granite
I could see simplifications, even replacing some milled parts with stampings folded many times to produce things like the hammer, trigger, etc
bent sheet metal handguards coated in a thin layer of rubber, etc
perhaps even taking a page from the east germans and making the shortened version nothing more than the standard with a barrel chopped right at the gas block and slapping a booster on that
crisp granite
I could see simplifications, even replacing some milled parts with stampings fol...
perhaps even ditching the bursts, just having semi and full
cursive summit
If your military is really that worse for wear, you can always just issue steel tubes and stuff them up with a bunch of explosive power, some kind of debris and use that as a gun. The toob
vagrant pagoda
back to topic
it looks like the amd ref cards would be easy to print a 120mm fan bracket
crisp granite
except the grease gun was somewhat refined
the sten was a shameless clone of an obsolete German design with as much stuff removed as possible
...duh
I mean relative to other SMGs of the time
stuff like the PPS-43
the infamous STEN
that was phased out in favour of the grease gun
vagrant pagoda
m3 is a cadilac compared to a sten though
sten is 69 parts too
the right number
sten cost about $15 to make
lol
m3 were right over 20
they took 5 total man hours
the mk3 made them cheaper, but reliability lacked
gusty kiln
hipoints are basically the modern version of those guns
vagrant pagoda
hipoint is way way more complex lol
crisp granite
^^
gusty kiln
at least they cheap
crisp granite
hipoints are more than welded tubes and springs
crisp granite
mhm
PPS pattern guns were even made mid-siege of Leningrad
disgustingly simple stamped gun
vagrant pagoda
hi points azre 150
crisp granite
spat bullets
reliable enough, very cheap
all you really needed and wanted out of an SMG back then
vagrant pagoda
pps-43 has fancy stuff
vagrant pagoda
folding stock
gusty kiln
Yeeetttt
vagrant pagoda
and pistol grip
crisp granite
folding stock
and yet it was quite the simplification of previous soviet designs
vagrant pagoda
sten was lock bolt to the rear
vagrant pagoda
on a open bolt machine gun
crisp granite
sten was lock bolt to the rear
which itself was based on an iteration of the MP18
vagrant pagoda
drop it and your dead lol
crisp granite
the sten was...poo
crisp granite
drop it and your dead lol
carry without a round chambered
wait...
fuck
open bolt will do the whole thing for ya
I guess...if you drop it
pray for a light strike?
crisp granite
mhm
vagrant pagoda
you should pull the mag back to the first catch
and rotate the magwell
and drop the bolt
to carry it
crisp granite
STEN meta had to be
kill german soldier
yoink his MP40
give the Sten to a squadmate for a little bit
vagrant pagoda
and there is no lock wiuth it down
so you can just roate it back to the lock and jam mag in
crisp granite
if I recall, there was a last ditch german design just like that
but actually fed in that orientation
vagrant pagoda
i mean the germans made stens
crisp granite
which would have been 100% a massive improvement to the STEN
just having something other than that stupid side mounted mag
even if it's the same pretty poo double stack, single feed shit
crisp granite
eh, really was the mag, no?
crisp granite
but...my ergonomics
completely ignoring you don't get nor deserve any using a pipe gun
vagrant pagoda
its 9mm
there isnt a lot of recoil
and it shoots lots of bullets
its ww2
that was enough
gusty kiln
9x18
crisp granite
9x17
wheat plume
so this is why DeepinOS requires at least 64GB of space on your drive to install it
very odd partitions
vagrant pagoda
not really
wheat plume
Cheap joints... the place that should not be cheaply made
;-;
My previous pair of headphones was 26 Ohm..... these are 44
ashen spindle
great, amd marketing is back to being "jebaited" levels of bad https://twitter.com/SasaMarinkovic/status/1602377558498082828
shadow minnow
Ah yes, show ray tracing per solar but not ray tracing performance because RT per dolar looks nicer
astral haven
except is rt/ dollar even true?
ashen spindle
probably yes if they compare it in games where the raster is strong so that carries it up to same
- the lower cost means they dont need to match it even then
honestly surprised they didn't have -50% 8 pin connectors on FE model as marketing point
this is just the bs pr crap they used to do before rdna2
astral haven
probably yes if they compare it in games where the raster is strong so that carr...
ye but then its raytraced games
not raytracing itself
astral haven
yay fine print
ashen spindle
the DP spec also isnt really accurate I think
astral haven
it will be true eventually
ashen spindle
becuase 65% should meant they compare base spec not dsc capable 1.4
ashen spindle
yeah but its just uhbr13.5 not the max 20
astral haven
and?
ashen spindle
oh wait that could come out to around 65% nvm
thought the difference would be lower but looked at wrong numbers
astral haven
difference between % better and % worse
ashen spindle
yeeee
astral haven
what
missing a zero?
oh
13.5gbps you mean?
out of 20gbps
i do hope that microdisplayport (DP over C) takes over as a video connector
ill save you the time, the answer to the title is no
hes not wrong but thats not what you say
🤷 thats total bandwidth across the connector
not the speed of displayport
each displayport carries 4 lanes of displayport
actually I just realized
dsc compresses 3:1
how can you do 2 dsc monitors on nvidia
what
you can do 2
you cant do 3 or 2 + normal monitor
ye
which doesnt make sense bc it has exactly 4 clockgens
not that far out of mine tbh
pale sigil
How much is the 7900 again?
astral haven
because its a grand for the perf of the 3090/3090ti
pale sigil
I meant if we are comparing the two models here
astral haven
not just a few lel
astral haven
I meant if we are comparing the two models here
if those are your only options somehow yes
but uhhhh
pale sigil
Ok thats what I was wondering
astral haven
the 2080ti was insane value if you ignored the 1080tis that were half its price for 90% the perf
astral haven
really nothing practical to upgrade to yet
unless youve got 2k burning a hole in your pocket
pale sigil
Oh I have no intention
ashen spindle
Well it basically got a 20% price increase here + power cost for most people
astral haven
understandeable
i suspect most of them sold in the us
130k is just crazy for a $1.6k+ gpu
pale sigil
Yes there's unscalped stock in pretty much most stores
ashen spindle
It still sells out after some days then is back in stock some days after
So there is demand still
I imagine after Christmas it will be almost always in stock
pale sigil
Idk who in their right mind spends £1.8k on a GPU
astral haven
I imagine after Christmas it will be almost always in stock
interesting
ashen spindle
Unless retailers also stock up less idk we’ll see I guess but that’s my expectation with how long it stays in stock already
astral haven
yea ive been watching cars and the wait times are alot longer than that lel
im very close to getting a used car
Ya
Ya don't go very many miles with a GPU...
astral haven
Well as my grandpa never once said in his entire life, digital miles make digital smiles
pale sigil
As my pa always said, the dial can be reversed and it's our little secret.
astral haven
Oh geez
ashen spindle
unscalped stock?
almost 30 different 90 skus in stock at more or less normal prices
astral haven
Nabbad
ashen spindle
the strix, the vulcan, the msi/gb aio models are not in stock and some are probably in stock for more than their msrp but thats about it
fair gull
well u sure can
shadow minnow
Hmm pre orders for an OLED 1440p 240hz monitor starting at 649 that doesn’t sound bad
Tbh considering the track record of the company idk if I would preorder without knowing people from inside tbf
But then some of their products are now on Amazon which should be more reliable
Here a shameless link
shadow minnow
Hmm aparently there is two year burn in warranty
ashen spindle
On top of the regular 2 year warranty for EU regions? lol
Or just normally so it’s nothing really
shadow minnow
Not sure if the normal 2 year eu warranty covers burn in, or does it?
But it’s nice for US people where customer protection laws suck
ashen spindle
I would call burn in the product breaking lol
reef patrol
Not sure if the normal 2 year eu warranty covers burn in, or does it?
I highly doubt it.
shadow minnow
Hmm aparently can’t be 4k due to pixel size, sad
Anyways sign up for the exclusive invitation
vagrant pagoda
I would call burn in the product breaking lol
Nope it's wear
Thats why LG added burning after they got the panels working well enough
They didn't cover burning for years when oled came out
ashen spindle
I know, I just disagree and would pester the store I got it from anyway lol
vagrant pagoda
Also is China even making oleds that big?
Sure that isn't the same JOLED panel that ViewSonic uses
shadow minnow
https://www.dough.tech/pages/spectrum-glossy-oled-qhd-240hz-monitor?referralCode...
The preorder price makes me tempted hmm
ashen spindle
why not get a gpu first
reef patrol
https://twitter.com/jbrowder1/status/1602353465753309195
ChatGPT strikes again. Soon customer support won't be able to use AI because of this 😄
fair gull
not even close to vsc
fair gull
also why would i keep an extra text editor if i got vscode already
wheat plume
Kate is preinstalled on Plasma desktop and is amazing for most usage
ooo Git Blame plugin
nice
Comment appears when you click a line of code and you can click that to see more info, very neat
ashen spindle
sooo.. it just shows the blame feature from git?
wheat plume
Yeah
fair gull
sooo.. it just shows the blame feature from git?
personally like the gitlense from gitkraken in vscode
ashen spindle
sorry I dont speak good tools, we still use SVN
ashen spindle
lol good one
reef patrol
It's a soundcard. So.. uh.. yeah?
fair gull
depends on the audio chip and amps
wheat plume
hmm
reef patrol
They can be utter shit, they can be decent.
wheat plume
I need to plug my headphones in via USB so I can use them on the switch I have
sooo... Yeah
reef patrol
I have this one from Soundblaster. Which is quite decent for what it is.
outer berry
Get the fiio k3 if you have the budget
outer berry
Yea it’s a bit expensive but worth it
fair gull
not a switch then
wheat plume
to swap my devices between the computer and Deck
fair gull
its a hub
wheat plume
they are called Switches
wheat plume
yeah xd
wheat plume
There are two Soundblaster USB soundcards here with 2 euro price difference, and idk what the actual difference is other than the price
frozen ingot
I just got usb headphones/headset for that 
wheat plume
Yeah, im tempted to just get another pair of the Cloud 2
pale sigil
@wheat plume just use 
ashen spindle
well stock exists at least
make sure to not buy the screw drivers by accident when you want a gpu though
wheat plume
<@361968952592826378> just use <:best_dac:791389940423327796>
this would only work on my phone and laptop...
I need headphones for my computer and deck
fair gull
get a usb to usb-c adapter
wheat plume
I need 3.5 to usb a
pale sigil
Wot
fair gull
I need 3.5 to usb a
the apple dongle is c to 3.5 iirc
and then u can just adapt that to usb
wheat plume
I dont want C
fair gull
bruh
pale sigil
Just use an adapter, anything else is pointless.
Don't waste money on a usb dac unless it's an apple dongle
fair gull
we already established that
pale sigil
Lana just get and wack it into a usb c to a
reef patrol
fair gull
no lana wants 3.5 to usb
wheat plume
I thought only the USA model of the Apple Dongle was good?
fair gull
for high ohm headphones iirc
wheat plume
you literally said before that only US model was good
frozen ingot
the apple dongle has a built in interface now? 
wheat plume
or someone here did
pale sigil
Just the US one is better.
wheat plume
oh
pale sigil
you literally said before that only US model was good
Pretty sure I've never ever said that.
wheat plume
you said the US was much better
pale sigil
EU one is genuinely good and I used one for ages.
But also you don't drive much so it doesn't matter.
outer berry
I can’t be bothered to get a new gpu. Have been using a 1660 for years now
Works fine for everything I need so I’ll just use it for as long as possible until it just dies
ashen spindle
bruh wtf is this store thinking, 3k and cant even write the € sign next to it lol
wheat plume
I can’t be bothered to get a new gpu. Have been using a 1660 for years now
Ayy, 1660 gang
latent mural
LOL I THOUGHT IT WAS A 3036
wheat plume
lol
latent mural
Special edition gpu
ashen spindle
no its a 3036,04 Ti
latent mural
Lmao
ashen spindle
also sold out now lmfao
latent mural
It's limited edition duh
ashen spindle
limited brain cell to pay that price edition
latent mural
Lmfaoo
silent delta
wheat plume
Those things are so cheap, they handed them out in magazines back when they first released
latent mural
Back in my days you could run Fortnite on a 5$ pc
wheat plume
lol
latent mural
Lmfao
wheat plume
Back in my days, you could run Minecraft on a 5$ PC
wheat plume
you in a parallel universe?
wheat plume
back in my day, we could run Windows without being spied on and shoved ads constantly
ashen spindle
bruh that scaling past 3ghz
why did you have to break it amd, you were the chosen one
this is actually impressive for cyberpunk
now imagine it would not be bugged silicon and we would actually have a 350w card beating the 4090 at 3.5 clocks
wheat plume
The Cloud 2 are 60 Ohm...
gosh damn xd
fair gull
thats nothing really
outer berry
Ayy, 1660 gang
Rise up 1660 gang
outer berry
back in my day, we could run Windows without being spied on and shoved ads const...
I just run a debloated windows
wheat plume
Those modified ISOs are dodgy
ashen spindle
and yet you run win11 voluntarily instead of 10 
fair gull
because bleeding edge
need that newest of the new
same with lana only wanting phones that run the latest android
fair gull
i dont
shadow minnow
Should uninstall the windows itself too if you ask me
outer berry
I can’t sadly I’m too accustomed to it to move to something like Linux
