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vagrant pagoda
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to setup commands

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you can see how hard youre pushing withouth trail and error

empty wren
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Yeah

vagrant pagoda
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i found it!

empty wren
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That was nice for recalibrating

vagrant pagoda
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i knew i had seen a picture of the linear motor

empty wren
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Yeah it tiny

vagrant pagoda
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i mean

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yopu could maybe dfouble its size

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but there is a limit

empty wren
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Fair enough

vagrant pagoda
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hd rumber motors are giant compared to that

empty wren
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Technically I guess for it to work better they probably would have to design to top around it in mind

empty wren
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I do not think we need that per day like sure it would be nice to have haptic motors under each deep click button

empty wren
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Cuz that way even if the button gives out someday you can disable surface level actions and replace it with solidstate behavior based on pressure

vagrant pagoda
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the deepclick goes from bottom to top

empty wren
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Right

vagrant pagoda
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on a seperate pcb from the force

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easy to replace

empty wren
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Yeah the PCB floats

vagrant pagoda
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i swapped mine for clickier ones

empty wren
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Same

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Swapping the encoder was pain though

vagrant pagoda
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nah the mouse button is the pain

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wheel*

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they dont last

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and suck

empty wren
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thonk mouse wheel?

vagrant pagoda
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yeah

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the mouse wheel button

empty wren
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Oh button

vagrant pagoda
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is a damn smd dome

empty wren
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Yeah they messed that one up

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Could have used another mini micro switch for that

vagrant pagoda
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yeah looked it up

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8mm x 3mm for the z

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and swtich joycon are 10x10x22mm

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lol

empty wren
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Hmm

tropic nacelle
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Loved my swift point z, only stopped using it as the scroll wheel became inconsistent, moved to light mice and don't think I can go back to something so heavy now though.

vagrant pagoda
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the alps encoder was like $4?

empty wren
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Yep I think I got 2 for that price

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It does feel much more nice

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Though I still wish there was a heavier mechanical encoder but that seems almost impossible with how jagged the teeth are

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Hell to replace it though and alps encoder need a trim

vagrant pagoda
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i have caded a thin pcb to mound a microswtich under the wheel

empty wren
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Nice

vagrant pagoda
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you need a resin printer to make a part to go over the wheel shaft and hit the button though

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to get the force right

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it makes a lever

empty wren
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That makes sense tolerances are better on it

vagrant pagoda
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if you just on of the lowpro micros under it, its why to light

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the smaller swtichs are only like .2nm

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alps has a 6x3x4 mm swtich

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that is 1nm

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but i havent gotten any

empty wren
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That definitely looks like a better solution

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50,000 cycles though mage

vagrant pagoda
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yeah

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but

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they are like 200v rated

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so that maybe why

empty wren
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Oh these are for cars

vagrant pagoda
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but back to it

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the stock ones are 6mm high

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so with a 0.6mm pcb

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sitting on the screw

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you loose almost a mm

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if you get a longer replacement screw it would only be the pcb

empty wren
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Hmm

vagrant pagoda
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so you need sub 5mm

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which is skinny

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also found out most places size the switch by the body

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which made it hard

empty wren
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Would it maybe be a little easier to reuse part of the original switch+ 3d printed part to secure the new switch and + new switch?

vagrant pagoda
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its a dome tac swtich

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so there isnt anything to use

empty wren
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I thought I saw contacts nvermind

vagrant pagoda
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there are contacts

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but you need to fit a large swtich it has to go over a screw

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so it wont sit flat

empty wren
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Hmm

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I probably just will not mess with that switch, I barely use it anyways

vagrant pagoda
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mine goes bad once a year almost lol

empty wren
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Oof

vagrant pagoda
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mind the dirty grip its been a while sense ive cleaned it lol

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also pulled my mouse pad up so it wasnt black on black

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Other side is more grimy lol

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i never installed the rear grip becuase my hand dosnet hit it

empty wren
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Whatcha cut this from?

vagrant pagoda
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scroll up

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its 3m grip tape for spas/pools/showers

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from hd

crisp granite
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huh

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I usually use skateboard grip tape on my mice

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as cursed as that sounds

vagrant pagoda
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cant clean that very well

empty wren
vagrant pagoda
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this you can soap and water

crisp granite
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enough so to justify reapplying when my mouse needs a clean

vagrant pagoda
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this is too

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its firm enough to hold the grip shap

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but soft enough it dosent take skin off

crisp granite
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eh fair point

empty wren
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Inb4 doge has no fingerprints

vagrant pagoda
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i can run my mouse with just 2 fingers on the buttonsx

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and its heavy

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it has that much grip

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without clicking

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i did get too spicy and tlited my hand and clicked

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but it makes sense

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its easier with mouse pad

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with the grip on the ring finger

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i just need that and finger tips to run it

empty wren
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Bruh your hands are humongous

vagrant pagoda
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and I can BARELY use the ring finger rest

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thats how far its up there

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almost all the way over the mains

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but the ring finger is on 1/4 of that grip

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and my pinky always drags if i do that

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so i end up with ring griping the side

empty wren
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Interesting

vagrant pagoda
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idk who the modled it after

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no one has ring fingers that long

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lol

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i WISH it had a triple button setup though

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i miss that from my g600

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im though about running the two buttons left of the index finger

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to the ring side

empty wren
vagrant pagoda
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you can get on the pad?

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i could if claw griped i guess

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but i tip grip

empty wren
vagrant pagoda
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your pinky just floating?

empty wren
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Yeah cuz I would prefer not to grip the side

vagrant pagoda
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ah

empty wren
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If anything that rest should be wider

vagrant pagoda
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but the mouse has side grips

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for both fingers

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im talking about trying to use them all at once

empty wren
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Maybe I will try it later

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Ah okay

vagrant pagoda
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with my pinkey on the pinkey grip there is no way lol

empty wren
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Cool carbon fiber bent box

vagrant pagoda
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mouse for someone who dosent work

empty wren
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I would honestly be concerned how dirty the bottom is

vagrant pagoda
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i have a 3d mouse too

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and one of the swiftpoint ergos

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but buttons

empty wren
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Yeah pengrip ones I am guessing

vagrant pagoda
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the sideways one

empty wren
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😵‍💫

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Not sure what that is

vagrant pagoda
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its like a ergo kb

empty wren
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Oh the new one

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Have you tried a joystickmm

vagrant pagoda
empty wren
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I wanted to get one after learning the z does not support cad as well as I could

vagrant pagoda
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the z is fine in cad?

empty wren
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No I mean for manipulation

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Of the object as if I was holding it

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😵‍💫

empty wren
crisp granite
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yep, they're a thing

empty wren
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That seems nice if you live in Death Valley

crisp granite
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I've been meaning to try them but a distinct lack of ISO support...

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nope

wheat plume
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How much of an impact do Ohms have on audio quality?

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cause I saw a few reviews mention that the DT 770s have a different sound depending on what Ohm model you get

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like the 200 Ohm model sounds different to the 80 Ohm model etc

gusty kiln
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only impedance damping matters

wheat plume
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huh?

gusty kiln
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well for the first part of your question

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the DT770 ohm versions are pretty much different headphones each

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slight differences

wheat plume
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Everyone said the 200 Ohm model has much better sound over the 80 Ohm :/

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I fail to see how they can have a huge impact

gusty kiln
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the 80 ohm is the least bright

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honestly I'd pick the 80 ohm version

final flame
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32 ohm pepeLaugh

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10db midbass shelf

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also insane treble peak at about 14k

latent mural
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YouTube shorts user, laugh at them

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watching short form content, laugh at this user

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so is your attention span

reef patrol
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Yet shortform is literally something a lot don't want - at all.

latent mural
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because every 12 yo and their mom is on TikTok getting brain damage

chrome estuary
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i like both. I like short form content for somedays when my attention span simply doesn't exist. long term for everything else.

latent mural
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Nah it's because TikTok is a harmful app, it has a very smart algorithm

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Yeah YouTube is probably getting less money, so worse processing or servers, idk how it works exactly but something like that

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Ever seen hamza?

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Most are 15-30mins long

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I'd say the most common is like 10-15 mins

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it's 100x longer than tiktok

chrome estuary
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i have trouble watching 10-15min.

latent mural
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In tv terms 30mins is like avg idk wym

chrome estuary
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either it's gotta be in the under 5 minutes or 20-30+

latent mural
chrome estuary
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i watched a 7 1/2 hour speedrun over the weekend in one sitting.

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that's a bit rare for me but i do it every once in a while

latent mural
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That's not good either lol

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your spine/ass is crying

chrome estuary
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many cartoons did

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and very good ones too like Courage

latent mural
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30mins-1 hour is like the most common for tv

chrome estuary
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most shows are 30-45min

latent mural
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You shouldn't be sitting for more than 1 hour lol

chrome estuary
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do not sit there and tell me you get up every hour on the hour to do your stretches and being the healthiest person on the internet

latent mural
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I don't do that, I get up because I get bored of playing lol

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I literally split a 2hour movie into 3 sessions lol

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i watch like 45 mins a day

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I see

chrome estuary
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i want to watch Bullet Train and i'm sure there's a few others

latent mural
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What's bullet train about, no spoilerz plzzz

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Lmfaoo

chrome estuary
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that reminds me of speed

latent mural
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I mean the one with that one guy with a jawline

chrome estuary
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i'm not surprised

wheat plume
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Oooo
That's neat

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Sadly just pixel 7 ;_;

latent mural
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Am I seeing lanaposting??

ashen spindle
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no? the image literally says what its about

wheat plume
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the december Pixel updates

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but yeah, the image has all the context

latent mural
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Lana went to rehab

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I'm very proud 🙂

wheat plume
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lol

latent mural
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lol

wheat plume
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the update is 600mb for December, gosh damn

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also, this maintainer is fucking fast

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I dont have a Pixel!

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I got a custom ROM that is a port of Pixel 6 rom

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6A got the same CPU, y u nu spatial audio?

latent mural
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what is cough n snore detection

cursive summit
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Why'd you need something useless

wheat plume
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I think its for people who are partially deaf

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Like how iPhone can tell you if it hears a particular sound

latent mural
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i see

wheat plume
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or maybe its for the pixel watch

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to track sleep quality?

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o

latent mural
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did you know snoring, or even breathing thru your mouth can change your facial structure

wheat plume
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in what way?

latent mural
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lemme show you a pic

wheat plume
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I have tired eyes and crooked nose...

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but nothing else

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forward head posture too

latent mural
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and that also goes for if you have good tongue posture too

wheat plume
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?

latent mural
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basically just have good tongue posture, if you have good tongue posture you cant breathe thru your mouth in the first place

wheat plume
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uh hu..

cursive summit
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AMD RX 7900 XTX in first synthetic tests AMD Radeon RX 7900 XTX is now being tested by reviewers.  Someone has been testing AMD’s first Radeon 7000 GPU with Geekbench software. The card tested is the RX 7900 XTX, the flagship RDNA3 card featuring full Navi 31 GPU. AMD RX 7900 XTX was paired with […]

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Only?

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18% behind 4090

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Doesn't even beat 3090Ti in OpenCL but I guess that's always been AMD's weakness

shadow minnow
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Didn’t know this existed tbh

ashen spindle
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well it doesnt exist for long anymore

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optane dead

cursive summit
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Why did Optane die really

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It wasn't really bad

ashen spindle
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other stuff wasnt ready and now CXL can do most of it

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and wasnt making money

cursive summit
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So, CXL was initially developed by Intel... to kill their own Optane?

ashen spindle
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it did

pale sigil
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hmmmmm

ashen spindle
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will also use more power btw

pale sigil
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ik

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I just want my pc to not feel shit again

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im convinced something is wrong with it

ashen spindle
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your hardware most likely isnt at fault

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als idk would have to check but there are intel optane laptops

pale sigil
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its never been good as it used to be during the first few months aPES_Tears

ashen spindle
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yeah that sounds like either ssd or some cable or your electricity being fucked

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still think its your power

latent mural
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why don't you just reset it?

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Like completely

pale sigil
latent mural
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Oh...

pale sigil
latent mural
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Lanaposting

ashen spindle
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Accurate this time

pale sigil
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i mean

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its clear im finding the lack of storage painful

ashen spindle
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Idk I was guessing it’s mobile data

latent mural
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what kinda storage is named "G"

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It's just giga

pale sigil
pale sigil
latent mural
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Nah

ashen spindle
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I never saw G on Linux either

pale sigil
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really? lol

ashen spindle
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Ya that had kB or so for me

latent mural
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Is G just gigabyte?

pale sigil
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ever used java args? :p

pale sigil
latent mural
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why not just put gb lol

pale sigil
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idk moan at kernal makers

ashen spindle
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Oh wait one of the work servers had that listed without a b, so at one point I did see it

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But yeah never on a GUI

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Especially there I feel like it would be wanted to be sure if it’s gigabyte or gibibyte

wheat plume
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Hey Google...
Why do you change the media player EVERY UPDATE????

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It used to be a circular end
Now it's a straight line

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Unless the ROM maintainer changed it for some reason? Idk

wheat plume
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Oh... New Search

shadow minnow
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That looks absolutely horrible (with a Scottish accent)

halcyon moss
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the colors? i guess thats the material you in action

shadow minnow
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Looks more like bronze

cursive summit
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Holy ghosting

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DLSS just ghosts like hella bad

crimson wigeon
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Looks like the game might not be doing correct motion vectors or something

shadow minnow
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Yeah, in most games I remember DLSS not having much ghosting

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And usually Intel thing being better than fsr

wheat plume
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yt-dlp allows you to download audio in .flac format if you want to, but does the audio quality from youtube even get close to flac quality anyway?

crimson wigeon
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Not worth it, just use bestaudio

wheat plume
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im just wondering xd

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cause I copied these aliases from ArcoLinux

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and noticed they have one for flac

crimson wigeon
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Just bestaudio and extract it to be convenient, only re-encode if absolutely necessary (e.g. whatever you want to play it on is crappy and doesn't support modern formats)

wheat plume
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mpv is best

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<3

halcyon moss
cursive summit
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Although I really wish FSR smacked it right out of the water eventually

ashen spindle
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dlss more ghosting amd more things missing, at 4k mostly a wash

vagrant pagoda
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I still have all my OG D14 L handle screw drivers

ashen spindle
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1440p dlss better bc lower resolution start is harder for fsr

vagrant pagoda
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What ever grind they put on the Philips is the best I've ever used

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And I own a lot of high end screw drivers

vagrant pagoda
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The only one that is close are Wera and GN

vagrant pagoda
fair gull
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yesnt

vagrant pagoda
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And I own a bunch of JIS, and it isn't JIS

ashen spindle
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it's also not supposed to be

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its supposed to get close to native to give better fps

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no that is nvidia making stuff up

fair gull
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or whatever they are spelled

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frearson thats it

vagrant pagoda
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It literally has the long shaft just like the L handles

ashen spindle
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the only better than native is if you can afford to turn on RT effects due to upscaling and then have better looks and more fps than native

reef patrol
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It's 2022. Who has bit-less screwdrivers.

ashen spindle
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main deal isn't to make it look better than native

vagrant pagoda
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I actually have 5 inch bit set because of that

reef patrol
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A bit holder adds a mm to the width.

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(or less)

vagrant pagoda
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To use powered drivers

vagrant pagoda
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Or 1/8

fair gull
vagrant pagoda
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If the bit is smaller the holder adds a ton

vagrant pagoda
reef patrol
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Then maybe release a small driver and a big driver. Instead of two, super specific bitless screwdrivers that can only be used for very specific things and leaves you needing another 4-6 screwdrivers unless you're a Noctua technician at their factory

vagrant pagoda
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I mean

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80% of things are Philips 2 in us

vagrant pagoda
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Behold

reef patrol
vagrant pagoda
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Sounds like a personal problem

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I have a torrent, and the only thing I needed was p2 and p0

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And p0 was just to remove my gpu heaksink

reef patrol
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I already have a bit kit. With a much small screwdriver. Noctua can get bent as far as I'm concerned 😛

fair gull
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never seen one personally

vagrant pagoda
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hence why they "invented" pozi then acr

fair gull
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i mean im no ph#any fan anyway

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either JIS or Torx

fair gull
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murica

vagrant pagoda
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no

fair gull
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drywall everything

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i imagine

vagrant pagoda
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murica uses nails for strutural

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because they flex, not snap

fair gull
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well "structural"

vagrant pagoda
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and drywall is phillips

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never seen torx drywall screws

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tip would never last

fair gull
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i only have seen torx for drywall in germany

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and doors

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and windows

vagrant pagoda
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dont let water in lol

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i live on the ocean and everything is dryall and concreat

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yeah same

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lol

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80-90% humidity on average

fair gull
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brick and mortar is what everything should be

vagrant pagoda
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only time you get mold here is floods

fair gull
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i mean cant be too weak if my hometown alone has houses made from the same bricks and mortar that they were made of 600yrs ago.. cause they still stand

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same for the 2 churches

vagrant pagoda
fair gull
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we dont get those

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also cant imagine american style houses holding up

vagrant pagoda
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renfoced concreate

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sitting on driven renforced contrate pilings

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40+ of them

crisp granite
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houses in Texas...yeah

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but go to Alaska, or some of the other northern states, and houses will be built to last more than a year

vagrant pagoda
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everything in the last 30+ years is that

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well

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some are block thats filled

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nothing else meets codes

cursive summit
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I highly doubt that

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Source is a rando twitter user

crisp granite
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no one would be buying regular 7000 series

cursive summit
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I mean

crisp granite
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they're going to price them at a level that makes sense, so every CPU can be justified

cursive summit
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Who buys the 5800X after 5800X3D released dogekek

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5700X completely nailed it firmly into its coffin

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If the six core stays a 250$, it's a good price for it to be

ashen spindle
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aka nobody because that product doesnt exist

cursive summit
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7700X is a hard sell for me if that's the pricing that 7800X3 will do

cursive summit
ashen spindle
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well given that a 5800x is currently still selling for 100€ less than the x3d

ashen spindle
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dont think so

vagrant pagoda
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clocks are unlocked

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voltage isnt

ashen spindle
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well my guess is they maybe do it like rdna3

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and have untied it to some degree so it might have not extra locks

vagrant pagoda
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word is the SVI can now hard limit voltage

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so x3d on am5 will support oc just have a hard votlage cap

ashen spindle
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I mean they might just do the usual and have it locked but an LN2 mode can remove it or so

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not like its something you should touch on anything but that anyway

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at least if its a cap, lowering might make sense, not increasing

vagrant pagoda
ashen spindle
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ya ik

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I just meant having it locked so people dont kill it but have it up for ln2 people

vagrant pagoda
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curernt x3d isnt a ln2 type part

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its a hard limit

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the connection between the stacks fails

ashen spindle
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yes but on gpus or such that is often done

vagrant pagoda
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it isnt heat, its dielertic breakdown

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so cold wont help

ashen spindle
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more curious how the heat transfer is working on air anyway

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if making the IHS thinner is enough or if that will cause issues

vagrant pagoda
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wont be differenat than am5

crisp granite
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top fan mount 100

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gee
thanks Louqe

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they do a lot of good...but that's kinda stupid lol

raw zephyr
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looking for new open back over ear headphones, budget 500€, mostly media consumption and some gaming

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any recommendations?

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i was thinking about senn hd600, senn hd560s or hifiman edition xs

crisp granite
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hm

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speaking of

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any really good 120mm AIOs?

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something that could handle a modern mid-high end CPU?

indigo delta
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.

reef patrol
crisp granite
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Mansen...

cursive summit
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NZXT Kraken is good

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What's that Arctic called

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DeepFreeze Arctis? dogekek

crisp granite
chrome estuary
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360mm or bust

cursive summit
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That

crisp granite
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that's the main AIO I was looking at

cursive summit
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You can't go wrong

crisp granite
cursive summit
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But Kraken x73 or such are also really good

crisp granite
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ON THE TOP OF THE FUCKING CASE

cursive summit
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When you say 120mm, you mean the radiator or the fans?

crisp granite
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rad

cursive summit
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Kraken 120?

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Those are cute, programmable

crisp granite
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anyway
mansen
you actually used to review hardware
read some of your old articles on Tweak
at least some 120mm AIO has to stand above the rest

reef patrol
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Isn't that the one where most of the rad is terrible? Or is this different? The M22 or something

cursive summit
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Ricardooo

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Typically when it comes to AIOs it's Arctic Freezer nowadays

crisp granite
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...mansen

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c'mon

cursive summit
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Why go AIO anyways, there's good air units

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What are you overclocking

crisp granite
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I'm going to do something stupid but for that, I need your guidance

crisp granite
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by mounting an AIO to the top mount

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there is enough space to run tubes up

cursive summit
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Typically speaking, 120mm radiator AIO is literally useless

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You'd want it to be 360 at least

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Air can cool better than a 120mm aio

crisp granite
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again

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not with 75mm of cooler height

cursive summit
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So you literally have just 7.5cm's for a cooler?

crisp granite
cursive summit
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What kind of tiny case are you stuffing it into

crisp granite
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Raw S1

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besides
you know, and have experience with
my ability to stuff big things in small spaces 😉

cursive summit
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crisp granite
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yes, I know about that one

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I want something better than that

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which is why I'm looking at AIO and top mount

cursive summit
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I wouldn't go with AIO cause they are literally not good dogekek

reef patrol
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In all seriousness I never looked into 120mm AIOs in retail - Because I had a colleague who works at Asetek. He'd just throw me their raw, unbranded models at me as needed.

crisp granite
#

again
I want something better than those

cursive summit
#

Doesn't exist

#

Come back when quantum coolers exist

lofty copper
#

Hello

#

Where can I see when the expected arrival is of my wootinga

#

I forgor where it was

cursive summit
#

Also wrong channel

pale sigil
#

was great

cursive summit
#

Yeah I kinda want one just for putting silly stuff on it

vagrant pagoda
#

if you want it really fancy

#

barrow makes a block with a 3 inch 1440p hdmi screen lol

crisp granite
#

huh

#

benchmarks show the EK 120mm AIO holding up to the D15

#

:)

#

perhaps two really high static pressure fans, and we're off to the races

vagrant pagoda
#

is that noise normalized?

crisp granite
#

mhm

#

considering I don't care too much about noise, being able to get that kind of performance does excite me

vagrant pagoda
#

how did they get 45db out of a d15?

#

they dont get that loud

crisp granite
#

¯_(ツ)_/¯

vagrant pagoda
#

no for real

crisp granite
#

I'm curious too

vagrant pagoda
#

they are only 1500rpm fans

#

i would expect low 40s max

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45 is up there

#

also

#

why start at 36

crisp granite
#

idk

#

but liquid freezer plus better fan test proves my idea could work

vagrant pagoda
#

yeah

#

but also just case layout

crisp granite
#

I plan on kicking it up a notch with two noctua f12 industrialPPC 3000 PWM fans mounted

#

as...exhaust, I guess

#

sucking all the warm gpu air out and just blasting it through the AIO

vagrant pagoda
#

was then on a bench or in a case too

crisp granite
#

doesn't state

#

they aren't GN when it comes to the testing, unfortunately

crisp granite
#

assuming Louqe survives and gets around to Raw tophats...which frankly, they should

#

this would be a monster

#

either that or I'll just leave it exposed

#

two noctuas and a thicc rad in between

#

tubes running down

sharp badger
#

Would soo want to build a SFF pc

#

Buut would like to see what the performance of Intel&AMD's upcoming iGPUs are (Would like a Skyreach or something)

vagrant pagoda
#

36 is a crap noise floor lol

vagrant pagoda
#

but i doubt it will be console level

#

consoles are like 200+w chips

#

even going to zen4+rdna3+N5

#

you arent getting that same level to 125w

sharp badger
#

Ok 🤔

#

Would be interesting if they could start competing though

cursive summit
#

Can @pale sigil perhaps remove these?

pale sigil
#

why

cursive summit
#

One is ancient and really not relevant anymore

#

The other is for expired deals

ashen spindle
#

just let them run out, cant you just hide them or so

cursive summit
#

Wdym run out?

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One is from May

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And no I can't really hide threads

#

Muting them will still list them as active

ashen spindle
#

huh thought disdcord had a 7 day auto closing thing for threads

ashen spindle
#

I just dont understand humans

cursive summit
#

Those seem in stock?

ashen spindle
#

take a guess which model sold out first and wasn't in stock before

cursive summit
#

Must be the liquid cooled one

#

The one just out of frame for MSRP

ashen spindle
#

huh, which one of those is liquid cooled?

#

the GB model has been in stock since yesterday

#

the inno card came into stock today and is gone now lmfao

fickle ore
#

Credit card debt be thanking :3

cursive summit
#

Technically if you pay with your CC and just throw it away, it makes it no longer your problem

#

It actually works

#

I totally didn't spend like 5 mins cause it would keep crashing the bot cause he found the queries so nonsensical it had no clue what to do with them

ashen spindle
#

I think (hope) he's joking

#

but I'm not 100%

cursive summit
#

Technically also if you get your bills for the month and drop them into the neighbours' mailboxes, they ain't your problem anymore either

vagrant pagoda
#

Windoforce is 3.5

crimson wigeon
#

Now if only it learnt from others instead of only what you tell it in that session...

cursive summit
ashen spindle
fickle ore
#

Those prices.. Still.. WTF

#

Can't wait for spring

cursive summit
#

What are you, poor?

#

This is what quality costs

cursive summit
#

Mansen

#

N word dogekek

ashen spindle
#

I mean, 19xx is msrp, 300 for aib cooler+ retial margin, so relatively tame compared to shortages

chrome estuary
#

It's Dave Chappelle

ashen spindle
#

but msrp is insane already

chrome estuary
#

Not mansen silly

ashen spindle
#

Maybe that is mansen

reef patrol
cursive summit
#

You made him say the bad word! Naughty

#

Even AI calls Mansen a naughty sussy baka

fickle ore
#

Nvidia and amd are making money so..

#

Just odd

cursive summit
#

What you don't have the pennies that Nvidia are asking from you for their cards?

#

You don't sound like a gamer, I don't think I like your attitude

ashen spindle
#

well if they sold 200k units or so of it since launch, that is still relative low compare to the amount of people who are millionaires in the world

#

and I would say you dont even need to be a millionaire to afford one so even more people could get one without having to ignore food

cursive summit
#

I wonder how many people can write the cards off as business expenses

astral haven
#

writing the card off doesnt mean you dont pay for it lel

ashen spindle
#

that's another part, business use it, ai training etc.

cursive summit
ashen spindle
#

and yea, writing off is nice but it's not like it means you pay that amount less in taxes

#

what you probably mean how many people avoid VAT by buying it for buisness or from their work

cursive summit
#

Yeah I worked in b2b before, a lot of people wrote off the VAT by claiming it as business expenses

#

Not really sure how that actually works later as taxes, assuming you avoid paying right now and pay later?

fickle ore
#

Writing off can also be done for remote work if your job justifies the product. Atleast in here. Doesn't need to be business.

ashen spindle
#

so in some places in america that is basically nothing, not every place has 20ish% vat like europe

reef patrol
fickle ore
#

I get to write off monitor stand, electric desk, and some other crap this year 😄

cursive summit
astral haven
#

i cant write anything off bc my work will buy anything i can justify

#

lel

reef patrol
#

Mhmm. I could write off most stuff I bought that revolves around my PC, since I am a freelancer with my own company. My PC and desk area is my "workplace"

As long as I don't include "GAMING" in any receipts they won't even bother looking at them.

cursive summit
#

Some guy wanted to buy like productivity rigs for his studio with like A series cards

#

And asked if he can "pay with EU's funds"

#

Some kind of EU fund bank exists for business support and they like, cover your expenses?

#

Lad got like 4k covered by EU

astral haven
#

dont think thats how that works lel

reef patrol
#

Never heard of that.

cursive summit
#

That is actually literally how that works

ashen spindle
#

if you are part of a reasearch project or other EU project you have funds for things that you can use for salaries, flights etc.

cursive summit
#

You have to submit an application to a commission, they consider and if approved, they cover the expenses

reef patrol
#

I'd love to see some actual source on this - Because I'm going to bet it is VERY specific and with a ton of caveats 😄

astral haven
#

thats called a grant

ashen spindle
#

yes

fickle ore
#

Yo gimme EU funds Lol

#

freaking welfare

ashen spindle
#

it's not a very profitable thing for the most part

vagrant pagoda
#

so im dumb

#

i just relized

vagrant pagoda
#

i already own the noctua screw driver

#

i just never unboxed it

astral haven
#

lel

vagrant pagoda
#

came with the p1

#

i never looked lol

astral haven
#

yep thats where i got mine

#

it was perfect for installing it

vagrant pagoda
#

i already had screw driver that worked

#

love my p1 though

#

i need to make a duct though

#

gonna wait till i go am5 as cooler could move

astral haven
#

oh my god
ive been working here for a year and i didnt know we had an epyc server lel

#

oh

#

its not ours

cursive summit
#

Pretty good

crimson wigeon
#

So what'd they do, switch to DXVK pepelaugh?

reef patrol
#

Have they caught up? Are they behind? And if so by how large of a margin?

ashen spindle
#

its just dx 9 fixes so its only catching up and fixing issues

#

we know that they arent ahead in dx12 games so they can't really be ahead in games where they dont have direct hardware for

#

I mean not for the price point

#

obviously compared to a 4090

#

6700xt is not same price though?

#

also depends on the game

crimson wigeon
#

Yeah I'll just keep waiting for BATTLEMAGE

reef patrol
#

Shame... no Intel GPU for old games yet 😄

ashen spindle
#

? if this fixes most dx9 issues why not

crimson wigeon
#

But whattabout DX8 and 7 and stuff

fair gull
#

those run on modern windows?

#

i thought dx8 died with xp

reef patrol
ashen spindle
#

how is it terrible still?

reef patrol
#

I literally asked further up if Intel were still behind on DX9 performance compared to similar cards from competition.

vagrant pagoda
ashen spindle
#

yes and I said its fixes and they can't really be ahead if they do extra work to make it run, doesn't mean they are miles behind still

vagrant pagoda
#

It's just really behind then in dx9

ashen spindle
#

and instead of 200fps behind a 660xt its now just more like 30fps in CSGO and thats also different benchmarks so close enough to call it fixed

#

so now they for the most part are a option that you can consider if you dont mind the control center being a mess as well as more unknown factors

#

but raw performance for price is alright now

vagrant pagoda
#

Did they fix h264?

ashen spindle
#

idk mostly meant for gaming

vagrant pagoda
#

Yeah and you can stream games lol

#

And that's broken on arc

ashen spindle
#

you can get it for prices of like a 6600xt now and games perform around that level, sometimes higher, sometimes lower some rare cases like this

ashen spindle
#

unless you actually meant dx7 era games from like before 2000 then idk

reef patrol
# vagrant pagoda It's behind in dx12/Vulckan

Now we're confusing and mixing things up. DX9 was specifically an issue for the ARC cards, because their DX9 implementation sucked. Modern APIs be damned - Those are what they are based on price comparisons 😄

ashen spindle
# fair gull i thought dx8 died with xp

I think they added some stuff back but probably just combability of dx9 with it and for some things you still ne combability mode or some translation layer

vagrant pagoda
#

Arc is behind overall

#

For the money

#

It was just really behind in dx9

reef patrol
vagrant pagoda
#

Yes it's all drivers

reef patrol
#

Sigh...

vagrant pagoda
#

Lol

#

It's still not a "good" product all the same

#

Novelty at best

ashen spindle
#

anyway, it works, not better, but its not like you only get 50% performance of something else at same price either

reef patrol
#

They are not the same fucking thing at all. One is a bad implementation of DX9, the other is literally just not having enough raw horsepower compared to competiting products 😛

#

Dx9 is a software issue, sucking at DX11/12/Vulcan is because it is poorly priced compared to the raw performance.

vagrant pagoda
#

The 750 beats 3060 in every test that actually supports arc for $100 less

reef patrol
#

And now we're in the "for the price" territory again.

vagrant pagoda
#

What other metric matters?

#

They aren't power efficient or small formfactor

#

And they aren't halo products

#

So what other reason would you have to use one?

#

The only way to compare products from different vendors is at the same price point lol

#

My point still stands though, Arcs game performance isn't a horsepower issue, it's drivers

#

Because it has all the horsepower it needs in compute

reef patrol
#

"It has the power of a 1060, except in DX9 titles where it runs like a 760"

ashen spindle
#

uhh no? more like a 6600/3060 aside from dx9 but now that should be about the same

#

assuming we are talking about the 750/770 yea?

#

in HUBs testing its about the same so its not just TPU having weird test cases

#

also wouldn't work since Rajas contract with the devil he made makes sure he always competes with a 1080 dogekek

reef patrol
ashen spindle
#

well it looked like a quote from somewhere

vagrant pagoda
ashen spindle
#

thats why raja will next jump to nvidia and make a 1080 competitor there

vagrant pagoda
wheat plume
#

Invisible challenge... oh gosh no

vagrant pagoda
#

They had tamper proof screws on the coldplate, but not the actual pump lol

ashen spindle
#

ofc it would be gigabyte

latent mural
wheat plume
#

This filter basically proves that Tiktok has CP on it
cause there is a lot of underage kids doing this challenge too :/

#

it makes bare skin into basically a green screen you can put anything onto

latent mural
#

ik a solution, dont use a app that can literally give you permanent brain damage

wheat plume
#

^

#

You are killing two stones with one bird that way! not using tiktok and not getting brain damage

latent mural
#

YEP

wheat plume
#

(Yes, I swapped that intentionally)

ashen spindle
#

well at least the issue seems to have happened inside the 4 year warranty you get so he would've been fine at least

latent mural
#

ngl tiktok should be illegal everywhere

wheat plume
#

^

#

yep

ashen spindle
crimson wigeon
#

On Linux D3D9 can be used "natively", a not very well known trick.. Wonder how well those things perform with that thonk

crimson wigeon
#

Gallium Nine

vagrant pagoda
#

Does that support anything new?

crimson wigeon
#

Yes, all modern Intel and AMD graphics have Gallium drivers

#

Nvidia users are out of luck obviously

#

At least when it was last compared to DXVK it had significantly less CPU and memory overhead

ashen spindle
#

while its nice it works now, if they did fix it by just using DXVK that doesn't bode well for their future driver issues though lol

cursive summit
#

I have a feeling that chatGPT has like account-specific quota cause I had it work flawlessly before, but now he fails the queries 50% of the time and subsequent queries like 80% of the time

#

Either that or there's a lot of load on the server

gusty kiln
#

Mesh side panel from fractal

#

hawt

pale sigil
#

Finally lol

#

Customs price was rough though

wheat plume
#

and I had a few options to choo choo choose from
Half Asleep Chris

#

idk why, this guy reminds me of Grian but irl

reef patrol
sharp badger
wheat plume
#

his damn house / garden railway was soooo damn good

ashen spindle
#

mesh side panel is probably not great because it will break the airflow since it just goes in all directions now

#

but maybe fans overcome that and it's a net benefit, curious to see some review

sharp badger
#

Yeah well they stated it in the review

#

''Vented side diminishes cooling from front intake fans''

''The Fractal Design North's unique side panel is also a bit of an achilles heel, as it diminishes the tunnel effect of the two front fans. As such you should really make the most of it by installing additional fans in the side bracket to really make good use of this feature. ''

#

But would like to see some more testing with it though

#

Any with a Vertical GPU?

ashen spindle
#

I mean wendell didnt do any tests

#

kitguru showed like no comparison and just one graph of it so that was pointless

sharp badger
#

Would like to see an Aircooler on the CPU with a vertical GPU & Side intake fans

frozen ingot
#

yes please

#

screw liquid cooling

wheat plume
#

Going to give Fleet a try

#

Jetbrain's new IDE

#

very clean by default

#

the font size and highlighting is pretty nice too

crisp granite
#

welp...I've started my cursed Raw S1 build

#

printing a 140mm to 120mm fan mount, and getting a disgustingly thicc 120mm AIO

#

question
AM5 uses the same mounting hardware as AM4, ye?

#

...no, very new AIO

#

but

#

thanks for answering

#

so it should include separate brackets for both

thick elk
#

Still the fractal design north seems like an interesting case at least for me.

sharp badger
#

Fractal has been releasing quite a lot of cases recently too!

#

Loads of interesting options and yeah a few of them are old but updates on them

#

The ridge is kinda nice too but is there any low-profile cooler for an 12700K that works? 😅

#

O11 Evo is a very good case was thinking of buying it but went with a 4000D instead because i got such a good deal on it

wheat plume
#

... why are the comments in a different font

#

How do you even do that in VS Code?

reef patrol
wheat plume
#

what?

crisp granite
thick elk
#

This not really that special a feature, even kate supports it be it in a slightly different form

wheat plume
#

hmm

crimson wigeon
#

Y tho, that font doesn't look pleasant in my opinion

wheat plume
#

Im sure you could change it

#

ive never seen VS Code do this, Im guessing its an extension

reef patrol
wheat plume
#

Yeah, i dont like that

wheat plume
reef patrol
#

You tell me. You seemed surprised 😛

wheat plume
#

I was surprised this was a feature in VS Code cause I hadnt seen it before

#

And then I remembered extensions exists in VS Code

thick elk
#

Extensions IE the only reason people use it in the first place

wheat plume
#

Yeah, I can see why

#

does kate have extensions?

#

Other than builtin ones

#

o.o

crimson wigeon
#

Just going by the title can't wait for the fire speedruns

crisp granite
#

huh

#

good to know

#

some SFX PSUs really are fire hazards

#

which is so...not cool

pale sigil
#

I either need a better router or better wifi around the house.

#

For some reason lately moonlight has been OK for me, not the best...

#

Used to be buttery smooth.

thick elk
gusty kiln
#

really liking my new chair, seat comfort definitely way better

ashen spindle
latent mural
#

Nvm thx

sharp badger
gusty kiln
sharp badger
#

Looking at new chairs too atm. so 😅

#

That and a lot of other stuff lol

gusty kiln
#

whats your budget?

sharp badger
#

Was thinking of the Steelcase Gesture

#

But then Leap V2 sounded more interesting

gusty kiln
#

nice big bucks chairs

sharp badger
#

Lil bro bought an Embody so i can try that

gusty kiln
#

I needed at least a mesh back so those were not an option

#

foam gets too hot in the summer

sharp badger
#

Ah ok! 👍

gusty kiln
#

good option if you're willing for a 2nd hand leap

#

they replace the foam and fabric though

sharp badger
#

Currently using a DX Racer King series chair, It's ok but i want something better

gusty kiln
#

so you won't be using someone else's farts

sharp badger
#

It's just that i really like adjustable armrests and the Gesture got the best

gusty kiln
#

racing chairs are ok until you sit in them after hours and you realize how hard they are

sharp badger
#

Yeah it's ok, could be better

gusty kiln
#

the chair I got

#

arms are decent adjustable

sharp badger
#

But there's a lot of chair options and it's soo personal

gusty kiln
#

I almost got a refurbished aeron, but it doesn't look comfortable for lazing around

sharp badger
#

It's a chair where you're kinda ''forced'' to sit as intended lol

gusty kiln
#

yeah

#

so when you gunna drop a killobuck on the chair?

#

💸 mm

sharp badger
#

When i can make my mind up, lol

gusty kiln
#

is it just the leap vs gesture?

sharp badger
#

Well was thinking of the Embody or Aeron too but don't like the Embody armrests , Aeron is kinda ok but the armrests again

#

Haven't tried any Steelcase chair yet

gusty kiln
#

aeron armrest are super cushy

#

maybe that can compensate

sharp badger
#

But Gesture seem nice also the Leap V2

gusty kiln
#

leap is the better chair I think, but nothing beats the gesture's arms

sharp badger
#

Also open for other options of good office chairs

gusty kiln
#

have you looked at any of the Haworth chairs?

sharp badger
#

Yeah heard of the name but haven't looked into any options 🤔

gusty kiln
#

people consider them on par with HM and Steelcase

sharp badger
#

But want Good Backrest & Armrests

#

Have also looked at a few ''Håg'' chairs

gusty kiln
#

I've seen those

#

definitely a work chair

sharp badger
#

They've got some ''3D'' armrests

#

And also have a very good foot base

fair gull
#

have to say ikea also has 1 chair thats really good for the price

sharp badger
#

Markus?

#

Ah that one

fair gull
#

i expected the default cheap stuff like plastic foot cross

#

very cheap adjustment mechanics

#

but no

#

is decent

sharp badger
#

The leather during summers though

gusty kiln
#

yeah

sharp badger
#

I've got it on my DX Racer chair

#

It's a bit sweaty lol

gusty kiln
#

yeah, bare minimum fabric, and mesh is the best

fair gull
#

this leg angle

#

makes me cry

sharp badger
#

Yeah 😆

vagrant pagoda
gusty kiln
#

the seat depth is too short for him

fair gull
#

legs should be right angle

sharp badger
#

Yeah

fair gull
#

and seat depth needs to be a nice 2 finger wide from edge to leg

gusty kiln
#

and only a small gap between the bend of your knee and the seat

sharp badger
#

Is the seat adjustable?

fair gull
#

yes

sharp badger
#

Lol

gusty kiln
#

so glad the chair I got has seat depth adjustment

fair gull
#

well if a chair doesnt it shouldnt be called office chair

#

glad we have ISO norms for this stuff

gusty kiln
#

n't

fair gull
#

yes nt

gusty kiln
#

yeah the bulk stuff that large companies get are trash

fair gull
#

depends

sharp badger
#

Watching all these videos comparing chairs is just confusing lol

fair gull
#

in germany many comapnies get stuff from klöber

#

which is hm of germany

#

and they spend a good 600eur or more per chair

sharp badger
#

''Don't buy a Steelcase chair until you watch this'' clickbait stuff

gusty kiln
sharp badger
#

Looks decent

fair gull
#

they are

#

have sat in a predecessor for years

gusty kiln
#

knoll have good chairs too

fair gull
#

have also sold way too many

#

not just the mera

#

they have automatic adjustment chairs aswell

#

those are the bomb

sharp badger
#

Ah nice

#

Need to do even more research now lol

fair gull
#

for my private office id always aim for a klöber or HM personally

gusty kiln
#

what does the wooting office use?

fair gull
#

digital chairs only

#

same for desks

marsh glade
#

I sit in a canoe

fair gull
#

we have to stand all day

#

in our homes

gusty kiln
reef patrol
fair gull
#

i only sit in the mentioned ikea chair from now on

#

its comfy

#

although unused to it not rolling away when standing up

#

sus feature

gusty kiln
sharp badger
#

It's also good to switch it up, between standing & sitting

vagrant pagoda
#

600euro is crazy for a chair lol

reef patrol
#

Maybe next year if HR will let me dogekek

frozen ingot
#

€600 ain't that much for a chair

fair gull
#

ya