🔌│tech

[sharp badger]

But headphones are kinda ''personal'' taste though

[stark bobcat]

audio always makes ppl become animals because people thing their own perception of reality reflects perfectly on others

[cursive summit]

6XX's?

[fluid cave]

aside from online banking i also want to watch movies on it - not used for gaming

[cursive summit]

There is nothing wrong with 6XXs

[latent mural]

Mmm

[final flame]

that's why you contact the brand of the device not the seller

[cursive summit]

How about you use your phone?

You don't need a laptop for those

Or get an iPad air

[astral haven]

Who will refuse to work with you because you bought it from drop lel

[stark bobcat]

in eu stuff like this is supposed to be handled by the seller

[latent mural]

Bigger screen for movies tho

[stark bobcat]

and is that way by law

[sharp badger]

Can usually connect the phone to a display

[crimson burrow]

why can't there just be a universally agreed headphone and mic?

[cursive summit]

Tastes

[astral haven]

Besides being worse than the 560s at lows and highs

[final flame]

I've replaced stuff from the brand itself before

[astral haven]

It can happen but this is Sennheiser and xduoo

[fluid cave]

i dislike the idea of doing online banking on a phone.. i guess im old fashioned

[cursive summit]

Except it's still considered better

[stark bobcat]

because people perceive reality slightly differently and it's hard to know how you will perceive it

all our ears are not the same

[latent mural]

@fluid cave you can look for something online and then send it to me and I can tell you if it's too overkill or if you may need something better

[cursive summit]

What's your budget?

And are you from U.S/EU or other regions?

[fluid cave]

HUAWEI Matebook D15 is what i have on my mind atm - its on sale for 559€

no clue if thats too much tho

i usually dislike underpaying for stuff.. guess thats why im also here while being a tech noob

a friend recommended this keyboard to me

[cursive summit]

Matebook looks terrible

[stark bobcat]

keyboard is the best in the buiz

laptops I couldn't help ya I just get shit that works for my budget

[final flame]

personally I'd look at some of the Asus budget laptops

[cursive summit]

Lenovo V15-ADA G2 is for me the entry level of usability

[latent mural]

I just looked at the specs

[cursive summit]

It's priced well and has great performance

[latent mural]

That is robbery wth

[fluid cave]

[crimson burrow]

yeeeaaah this is gonna be awhile

[stark bobcat]

honestly I was expecting something more expensive from vexx

[latent mural]

Actually it might not be I'm not sure if the cpu is good or not

[cursive summit]

@fluid cave my lad, what region are you from? What's your pricing

[stark bobcat]

I am suprised

[cursive summit]

I don't overspend

[fluid cave]

im from germany and i guess max i would pay is 700?

[cursive summit]

I worked in the industry and got a lot of knowledge on laptop specs

[stark bobcat]

sure

[fluid cave]

best is 600€

[latent mural]

Intels naming is great as usual

[cursive summit]

You can go below

Look into Lenovo V15-ADA G2

With 5500U

I got one myself for someone, and it works flawlessly

The only problem is the display I guess being TN, but I was surprised how good it looked for a TN

[final flame]

the Lenovo seems to be a good option, amds integrated is pretty good

[cursive summit]

Comparable to my shitty VA display

I guess the integrated camera was the shittiest factor, it's absolutely trash

But you need it for cheap and just for work purposes, there is no reason to overpay

[latent mural]

Yeah the Lenovo seems pretty decent but you might want more storage than 256gb

[stark bobcat]

he doesn't need that expensive of a laptop just something that is built well since it's for banking and video content

[final flame]

personally I wouldn't get a laptop if you're going to be doing stuff like movie watching, a tablet would be better, most laptop speakers in the budget range are garbage

[cursive summit]

I was thinking of recommending some iPad but those are expensive for the new stuff

Even the airs

You can't really go wrong with a laptop to be fair

[latent mural]

@fluid cave in banking, do you need high storage, or high "loading speeds" or what would be something you need if you know

[stark bobcat]

s6 lite has decent speakers

but it's a bit small

[marsh glade]

Laptop + headset

See another reason why headset > standalone mic

ignores the base stand my headset requires that isn't very portable

[stark bobcat]

I prefer standalone mic but to each their own

[latent mural]

Headsets are good, but for me my headset mic simply doesn't work lol

[crimson burrow]

well I just checked something out and it seems the beyerdynamic DT 990 PRO Over seems pretty nifty

[cursive summit]

Oh god no

[final flame]

I also prefer standalone, better than having a bad headphone and bad mic

[cursive summit]

Not beyers

[stark bobcat]

please don't

[final flame]

yea nope

[stark bobcat]

your ears will fall off

[sharp badger]

😆

[crimson burrow]

🤨

[cursive summit]

Please get a sennheiser at the very least

[fluid cave]

storage is only for pictures made by family.. so i dont think i need alot of space since i rarely make videos, i want good loading speed on websites to fluently browse the internet if that helps

[cursive summit]

If you want to experiment there are other brands but not beyers

[final flame]

hd560s can't go wrong with it

[stark bobcat]

I guess everyone is united in the beyer hate tho

[cursive summit]

HD6xx I say

[stark bobcat]

good to see

[latent mural]

Someone get this man a decent CPU and like 8gb ram

[cursive summit]

You can get literally everything you need on drop.com right now for cheap

Go with that

[final flame]

560s if you have a lower budget
6xx if you can afford to go higher

[crimson burrow]

so sennheiser is universally agreed upon?

[stark bobcat]

sennheiser is as inoffensive as it gets

[fluid cave]

@cursive summit i am btw looking into the Lenovo you suggested, with 5500U

ty

[cursive summit]

Nice

[latent mural]

audiophiles hyperx cloud 2s valid or nah

[cursive summit]

I had one in my hands

[crimson burrow]

aight I guess I'll look more into sennheiser

[cursive summit]

I was pleasantly surprised with its quality @fluid cave

[final flame]

cloud 2s are pretty desh

[latent mural]

Yeah that one is pretty good

[cursive summit]

The keyboard is nice, the screen is adequate and the performance is nimble

[sharp badger]

Sennheiser or AKG imo.

[cursive summit]

For the price, it's a very affordable and good laptop

[astral haven]

https://a.co/d/fVWflVk
This is a solid mic that is fantastic quality for the price and is very good at picking you up from far away

https://a.co/d/9nGGqWD
Better quality but much more space taken up

https://a.co/d/acIZhVl
Extremely good headphones that are relatively comfortable and don't need an amp to power

https://a.co/d/7M1FN3e
Slightly different comfort (some find more comfortable some less, but generally larger sounding sound with the disadvantage of requiring an amp to get loud

https://a.co/d/9r4drJN
Basic dac + amp that will work great but isn't gonna be loud on 400se (tho it's physically incapable of giving you hearing damage on it so that's a benefit and it runs well even at max volume
(Identical sound quality to the apple dongle but more compatible and more durable)

https://a.co/d/3Nxatfc
A full on amp with solid power that you can pair with the cx31993

Last option that imo world work great for you is https://a.co/d/hMdAuen
+
https://a.co/d/9o54TBr
Headset but with the sound quality of headphones
There are 6 options @crimson burrow

[crimson burrow]

AKG?

[cursive summit]

AKG is underrated but we have a bassier-head

[final flame]

depends, both sell good stuff

[cursive summit]

@astral havenfucking hell remove the previews

[crimson burrow]

oh yo thx

[cursive summit]

HE400SE?

Really?

[astral haven]

Only way to see the products without clicking the Amazon links

[stark bobcat]

I like most of these choices idk anything about mics tho

[cursive summit]

Hifiman has QC issues, don't go with hifiman

[fluid cave]

@cursive summit the price is 554,68€, is that fine? doesnt look to be on sale for me

[cursive summit]

I paid around that much

I see that they are cheaper in UK though, maybe that'd cost less with shipping

[stark bobcat]

uk to eu should now have import

[astral haven]

Amazon fam
And the 400se stealth magnet us very are generally out of box problems

[stark bobcat]

u can get fucked that way

[astral haven]

For $100 you get insane value

[cursive summit]

I paid this much

So you aren't getting a bad straw of the deal

[final flame]

probably shouldn't get a planar without a actual amp too, 91 sensitity is gonna be quite quiet

[cursive summit]

I still say that drop.com is the better option

[fluid cave]

what do i want to look into if it comes to a laptop for my purposes? CPU and type of screen panel?

or is there more

[astral haven]

It actually works quite well with the cx31993 tho it's quiet which is why I have the amp there

[stark bobcat]

basically cpu doesn't matter

the screen and build quality probably do to you

if it's only banking

[cursive summit]

Inb4 they get celeron

[stark bobcat]

and netflix

[stark bobcat]

ah cmon

[astral haven]

The artificial limit of 1v on the cx31993 pairs quite well to make max volume quite useable with them

[fluid cave]

its also fluently browsing between websites and sht so website build up time doesnt take long

but no clue what part helps wiith that

[cursive summit]

That's the one that I showed you

[stark bobcat]

the lenovo will be very fluent

[cursive summit]

I had no problems with browsing on that Lenovo

Actually it's really nimble

Probably even nimblier, somehow, than my PC

[crimson burrow]

yeah I'll check the stuff Carmon sent

[cursive summit]

Check the microphones, not the headphones

[stark bobcat]

for browsing ram matters but only if u use many tabs

but I assume a banking laptop u re not gonna have too many tabs

[cursive summit]

8GBs is fine for their usecase imo

[stark bobcat]

why not the 560s?

[latent mural]

Ram/cpu

[crimson burrow]

wait I thought you siad not to go with FIFANE though?

[stark bobcat]

he's a hater

[cursive summit]

I don't have any issues with the microphones

I only have issues with the headphones

[astral haven]

Personally recommend against 38x + hel, but it's solidly more convenient

[crimson burrow]

oh alright

[cursive summit]

How about we go the normal route and https://www.amazon.com/AKG-K702-Reference-Studio-Headphones/dp/B001RCD2DW/ref=sr_1_3?keywords=akg+k712&qid=1668803079&sr=8-3 or if you feeling expensive https://www.amazon.com/AKG-Pro-Audio-Reference-Headphones/dp/B00DCXWXEI/ref=sr_1_2?keywords=akg+k712&qid=1668803079&sr=8-2

Best headphones in the business

[stark bobcat]

the akg peddler has arrived

[cursive summit]

What do you think I wear 24/7?

Literally best headphones in the business

Cheap af and sounds better than 500$ headphones

My ears you twit

[stark bobcat]

I really gotta try the 702 just to say I have and then tell vexx they are carp

[sharp badger]

Using AKG K550 MKII atm. 👍

[astral haven]

Oh also the only things that I don't own that are on the list are the 38x (tho I own the old versions) the hel and the fifine
Everything else I own and have used

[final flame]

Here yknow what what are yalls opinions on dongle dacs, my old apple dongle started to break on me so I'm looking into a replacement here's my options

Apple dongle (heat shrink mod)
Moondrop Click
Cx31993

[cursive summit]

I vouch for the click

[fluid cave]

https://www.amazon.de/dp/B08WKTBSQ3/?smid=A3RXL4BF4ZZCRU&tag=idealode-mp-pk-21&linkCode=asn&creative=6742&camp=1638&creativeASIN=B08WKTBSQ3&ascsubtag=2022-11-18_2be21ee038b4f883c3206c7b2811f8740bc6927cdde15e26521bee81dd11a3f3&th=1&psc=1 @cursive summit @latent mural this one, is what we are talking about, true?

[cursive summit]

Yes

4GB though?

There should be another one with 8GB

[sharp badger]

It says 8?

[fluid cave]

it says 8 in description

[cursive summit]

I don't think it does mate

[latent mural]

Light mode user

[stark bobcat]

clearly says 4

[final flame]

it does indeed say 4gb

[stark bobcat]

and in the listing it says 8

[cursive summit]

Cause for me it says it's unavailable

[fluid cave]

[sharp badger]

Oops double post 😅

[cursive summit]

@sharp badgerare you german?

[final flame]

check the model number to see if those are the right specs

[sharp badger]

No

[cursive summit]

Huh

I don't see any in stock

And no description

I guess it's region based

[latent mural]

It says 8gb on the site

[sharp badger]

Yeah it's region based

I'm from Finland 👨‍💻

[stark bobcat]

The pictures show an ansi keyboard

ewwwwwwwwwwwwww

[cursive summit]

GO ANSI GO

[sharp badger]

ISO GANG!

[latent mural]

Ansi is fine they won't care lol

[final flame]

the great ansi iso war

[cursive summit]

@fluid caveis this available or you?https://www.amazon.de/-/en/Notebook-RyzenTM-DDR4-SDRAM-802-11ac-Windows/dp/B0B6GB8GX9

[stark bobcat]

yes it is

[cursive summit]

You can't go wrong with that

[fluid cave]

yes it is

[stark bobcat]

get this one

[cursive summit]

8GBs of RAM and 512GB SSD

[astral haven]

I've tried apple, cx31993 and cs43131 and they are all exactly 1v down to around 20 ohms give or take
Moondrop doesn't specify what they are rating there's for so it's very possible they have multiple chips in there which is super sus

[cursive summit]

Also comes with OS

That's the best option

[stark bobcat]

get that one it's much better

[latent mural]

finally acceptable storage lol

[fluid cave]

is the layout german layout with qwertz?

cant find that

[stark bobcat]

pictures show ansi

[cursive summit]

Lemme check in Lenovo's database

[latent mural]

That's os based

[cursive summit]

https://psref.lenovo.com/Detail/Lenovo/Lenovo_V15_G2_ALC?M=82KD00DRGE

[latent mural]

Do you want the buttons to have the correct layout?

[cursive summit]

Operating System
Windows 11 Home 64, German

Keyboard
Non-backlit, German

[latent mural]

Ooh anti glare

[cursive summit]

According to the listing on amazon it should be this one

[latent mural]

That's Good

[fluid cave]

so it has a german layout, gotchu

[cursive summit]

You should be good

I had one in my hands, it's amazing

Sometimes 500 euros can buy actually good stuff

[stark bobcat]

hopefully it's glorious iso

[cursive summit]

ANSI POWER

BIG ENTER

[stark bobcat]

iso enter > ansi enter

[cursive summit]

https://tenor.com/view/small-chicken-tough-talk-for-a-fella-with-a-small-cock-sonic-yellow-sonic-gif-15461553

[stark bobcat]

imagine backspace and enter being the same shape

[cursive summit]

Big cock energy with ANSI

[stark bobcat]

the truth hurts

[frozen ingot]

more like deep frier grease smothered american cock

[astral haven]

Numpad enter superior

[crimson burrow]

wait I do wanna know something

[cursive summit]

Wait ISO is the one with big enter?

[crimson burrow]

why do people dislike the DT990's?

[cursive summit]

ISO POWER!

[cursive summit]

Tough to listen to, very bright

[sharp badger]

ISO GANG! AS I TOLD U! 😆

[stark bobcat]

oh how the turntables

[stark bobcat]

it has a very large spike in the high frequencies

[fluid cave]

i like ISO if that helps for your discussion

[stark bobcat]

very fatiguing to listen to for many

[cursive summit]

I was using ISO this whole time and I was embezzled by the ANSI gang to shout out the wrong team

[crimson burrow]

hm odd

alright good to know

[cursive summit]

Go with Sennheisers or AKGs

For headphones

[stark bobcat]

that except the akg part

[cursive summit]

AKGs don't need dac/amp to run, easy af

[sharp badger]

Lol

[cursive summit]

And they sound siiick

[astral haven]

If you want beyer, the dt880 250 ohm exist and aren't sharp

[stark bobcat]

but need an amp

[crimson burrow]

wait brb

[stark bobcat]

they are semi open

[astral haven]

Cx31993 work great

[stark bobcat]

pretty nice

[cursive summit]

Or just use an AKG an you don't need a dongle

[astral haven]

Open enough

[stark bobcat]

didn't say it was a bad thing

[astral haven]

Dongle provides the same benefits to everyone

[stark bobcat]

I like my pair of semi open headphones

[cursive summit]

Small dick energy

[stark bobcat]

nice middle ground

[cursive summit]

Headphone jacks powered by superpowered capacitors is what we need

Dongle is just hiding your insecurities

[stark bobcat]

I assure u my amp has plenty of caps

[sharp badger]

It's so irritating

The dongle life

lol

[astral haven]

I like my driver's directly touchable

[cursive summit]

Yeah you are weird af

[stark bobcat]

not how god intended it

[astral haven]

Hifiman are no gods

[stark bobcat]

says you

[sharp badger]

Next headphones are going to be Hifiman!

[cursive summit]

I don't believe hifiman is god either

They are alright but not insane

[stark bobcat]

heresy

[astral haven]

Highly recommend them with the grilles removed

[cursive summit]

I do use Schiit Heresy, how did you know?

[sharp badger]

the Edition XS

[cursive summit]

That is great

I think

I'd still rather use AKG's but the Anandas and XS aren't bad

[astral haven]

Heard alot of good about them ye

[stark bobcat]

imagine enjoying audio in the way shiit didnt intend

[cursive summit]

what

[wheat plume]

wow, thats so shiit

[cursive summit]

I don't even want measurements @stark bobcat

I just wanted an amp that would not embellish the sound in any way

Magni 3+ colours the sound and I did not want that

[stark bobcat]

yes but schiit prefers to not do it that way

that is why it's called the heresy

[cursive summit]

And I hope you wake up with a 10" chode up your throat

[latent mural]

Guess who doesn't have to hear your game

[sharp badger]

IEMs are good but want to use over-ear headphones to balance everything out

[frozen ingot]

headphones can be excellent but I still see it as a product that's sort of born out of compromises

[sharp badger]

Usually want to use headphones @ the PC

[astral haven]

Iems are generally only better than closed backs
Open back in ears aren't really a thing yet

[latent mural]

Guess who doesn't echo 10x

[cursive summit]

Finally some truth

[frozen ingot]

I will always prefer listening to a pair of really good speakers over a pair of headphones

but a lot of the time you can't so

[latent mural]

Yes but I don't wanna be that friend who echos lol

[astral haven]

It really depends tho
Binaural recordings are always garbage on speakers

[stark bobcat]

mate 2 of us have your etymotics you aren't folling anyone

[crimson burrow]

so AKG's and Sennheisers right?

[sharp badger]

KZ ZS10 Pro are ok

[cursive summit]

Go with sennheisers

AKG's are niche and lack bass

[sharp badger]

But they're a bit heavy to stay in my ear

[astral haven]

Ignore the brands
All brands have garbage and great options

[cursive summit]

Look into HD 600/6XX

Either on drop.com or ebay

They are only 199$ rn on drop

[stark bobcat]

I'd second the 560s

560s are great

[frozen ingot]

I don't find it an issue with any music I listen to, would still prefer the vast amount of it on speakers

[cursive summit]

Not as great as hurr durr six hundrods

[stark bobcat]

also cheaper

[sharp badger]

Having great speakers is a must though

[latent mural]

I don't wanna share my music with my friends tho lol

[astral haven]

As an owner of the 6xx and 560s I second the 560s

[cursive summit]

Stick your etymotics up a dark place

[crimson burrow]

oh wow there's seems to be a lot of 600s...

[sharp badger]

Kinda feels like one miss a lot of details when listening to bad speakers compared to headphones

[frozen ingot]

well duh am talking listening to tunes here not sitting on voicechat

[cursive summit]

As an owner of NDH20 that YOU recommended, do not listen to carmonben and get the HD 600

[frozen ingot]

I don't like vc on speakers either

[latent mural]

I VC with friends though

[crimson burrow]

there's the 6XX, 650's, 660's

damn how many are there???

[frozen ingot]

I only do so while gaming

[cursive summit]

6XX/600 > 650 > 660S

[latent mural]

Yeah I respect that

[astral haven]

I never said you would like them
I just told you there were the most technically competent closed backs

[frozen ingot]

I don't want to be stuck with headphones on listening to their yapping all day

[crimson burrow]

less is better?

[cursive summit]

But that's all up to personal preference

[cursive summit]

Get the HD6XX from drop

It's cheapest there

And it ships for free I think

America store only

There are differences

[latent mural]

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B08J9MVB6W?ref_=cm_sw_r_apan_dp_XXD0CMGDGYTH376C6TP0 this vs hyperx cloud 2s

[stark bobcat]

Just get the 560s

[cursive summit]

Don't

[astral haven]

I would highly recommend against the entire 600 series unless you have very flat ears
They are quite uncomfortable

[frozen ingot]

for gaming I don't really care too much about having the best shit, I just get some gamer headset

[cursive summit]

The number

[frozen ingot]

I got better stuff for listening to musics or movies

[cursive summit]

Brought to you by the etymotic gang

[crimson burrow]

the Sennheiser 660's look interesting

[stark bobcat]

To be fair housing can change fr

[astral haven]

Wow its almost like there's more to headphones than sound

[cursive summit]

Most would say they are worse

And overpriced

[astral haven]

650 and 6xx are a paint job and a discount

[pale sigil]

ngl i want to get the hd6xx

[stark bobcat]

Oof

[astral haven]

They aren't worse they are different

[astral haven]

Don't unless you've tried them before

[cursive summit]

Afaik everyone that I have ever talked to said that 660S is not worth going for

[astral haven]

What they are tho is alot more expensive

[stark bobcat]

Don't buy from drop in Europe

[latent mural]

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B08J9MVB6W?ref_=cm_sw_r_apan_dp_XXD0CMGDGYTH376C6TP0 is this worth going for?

[stark bobcat]

Incredibly bad idea

[cursive summit]

They don't even have an EU store anymore

But it's not a bad idea

[stark bobcat]

Kiss warranty goodbye

[astral haven]

Zero friends who tried it got a good experience

[pale sigil]

Is there an estimated time

[astral haven]

Just get the 560s if you want Sennheiser
They are generally a better fit for most people
Unless you've tried 600 before, avoid them
They are no longer the best option

[cursive summit]

I also found the video I was looking for

[astral haven]

What they are tho is known good and a fantastic benchmark

[cursive summit]

https://youtu.be/8Ki2B_fGZqw

6XX is not the same as HD650

[fluid cave]

@cursive summit

[cursive summit]

There are FR differences

[pale sigil]

https://drop.com/talk/72539/rumours-has-it-that-neither-sennheiser-nor-drop-will-help-with-support-of-hd-6-xx-in-case-of-problem/2781317

[cursive summit]

Get.it

[latent mural]

YOOOOO

But make sure to delete Norton when you get the laptop

Norton bad

[cursive summit]

379 for that laptop I would get 2 of them

[fluid cave]

haha

[latent mural]

Lmao

[cursive summit]

That's an insane price

[astral haven]

The fr differences are due to model year

The 650 has changed over time, and the 6xx has changed along with it

The fr differences are model to model variance and manufacturing differences over time

[pale sigil]

Honestly I've wanted 6xx for so long that it's just impulsive

[latent mural]

@astral haven should I get these https://www.amazon.com/dp/B08J9MVB6W?ref_=cm_sw_r_apan_dp_XXD0CMGDGYTH376C6TP0 as a hyperx cloud 2 user

[astral haven]

What's wrong with the cloud 2s?

[latent mural]

I mean I wanna upgrade in the future

[astral haven]

Why?

[latent mural]

Why not

[astral haven]

Because it's a waste of money?

[latent mural]

Yeah

[crimson burrow]

so wait does Siennheiser need a dack to work? or can you just plug them in?

[astral haven]

Everything can just plug in

[latent mural]

Dopamine

[astral haven]

What you currently have to plug in to will determine if a dac will help

[stark bobcat]

as long as the port is a 3.5mm jack it'll work

[astral haven]

This

[stark bobcat]

outside dac's will just eliminate any electrical noise the trash dac is your motherboard may produce

audible at least

[astral haven]

And it also guarantees a specific amount of power and sound quality

[stark bobcat]

a lot of cheaper motherboards have that idk why since I am not an engineer

but it is known

[frozen ingot]

I never use internal soundcards/interfaces

[latent mural]

I think I used to have that

It was like squeaking noise

I can't hear it anymore

[astral haven]

Most motherboards have rather high impedance so they will sound bad with low impedance headphones
Which is why the Sennheiser and beyerdynamic headphones can sound fine to identical on a headphone jack where a hifiman would sound like complete garbage

That's also an entirely separate issue from interference

[latent mural]

That's interesting

[stark bobcat]

mate everyone has some degree of hearing loss

nothing special

that's just how the human body works

[astral haven]

high sensitivity headphones and especially iems can have noise floors higher than -50db on stuff

my motherboard picks up emi from my graphics card like an antenna even

run furmark at 1000 fps and you hear a very distinct 1khz tone

[stark bobcat]

my previous motherboard was also audible on most headphones

sad

wasn't even that cheap

just a bad product

[latent mural]

Seems like you know alot about isolating...

[astral haven]

etymotic cant do shit about emi

[pale sigil]

@shadow minnow you cant buy M1 IPad pro now? :p

[stark bobcat]

so u're saying I should live in here?

[true quest]

yes

[frozen ingot]

that's not a very nice listening environment

[stark bobcat]

honestly looks kinda comfy

[astral haven]

i would love to listen to some nice headphones in there

would be kinda pain for speakers but for headphones?

or vr?

music is mastered for diffuse field

anechoic chambers simulate free field

headphones also simulate diffuse field

and speakers need to be in a room to create the diffuse field

[pale sigil]

Can someone explain to me why i can get a 512gb M1 MacBook air for 999

but an IPad Pro costs 1249

[latent mural]

Skill issue

[stark bobcat]

wasn't that like msrp?

[astral haven]

only music mastered in an anechoic chamber would sound as intended in an anechoic chamber...

[crisp granite]

any deckard news?

[true quest]

none that i've seen

[astral haven]

nope

[crisp granite]

skip the iPad and get an M2 Air for better IO

[final flame]

the display is gonna be a lot better on the iPad I'll tell you that

[pale sigil]

Not as easy to be mobile

Also OSX

[stark bobcat]

I like ipad 😭

am I alone?

[crisp granite]

genuinely better than windows

[crisp granite]

nah, I like it too

[final flame]

nothing else has that mini led local dimming the iPad pro 12 inch has

[pale sigil]

Nope, i have a pro first gen

[crisp granite]

I just hate tablets in general

[pale sigil]

@crisp graniteAlso notch

[crisp granite]

the iPad line is without a doubt the best tablets I've used

still fuckin hate using them for more than media consumption

[frozen ingot]

some degree of acoustic treatment/dampening is typically a good thing for a hifi speaker setup but you wouldn't want a full on chamber like that for it

[crisp granite]

...

doesn't matter lol

[pale sigil]

A LAPTOP SHOULDN'T HAVE A NOTCH MOFO

[final flame]

what notch, does the MacBook have one now lol

[pale sigil]

ye

[stark bobcat]

I like not having any paper in my life and writing on tablets

paper 😡

[final flame]

that's a different technology entirely

[crisp granite]

well...I'd rather really thin bezels and a slight notch than...thicc bezel

and a laptop without a webcam is just...no

the webcam is also really high quality btw

[astral haven]

samsung doesnt sell them
only currently dell and lg sell per pixel monitors

[crisp granite]

it earns the notch imo

[pale sigil]

rarely use it

[crisp granite]

yep
but no laptop will ship without

so it's a necessary evil

I've used my MBP's webcam

[pale sigil]

shit

[crisp granite]

once

[pale sigil]

i can get apinkish macbook

[crisp granite]

rose gold

ye

I wanted to get one...but then I remembered grey existed

[pale sigil]

fucking beautiful

[crisp granite]

easy choice imo

that ain't pink

that's...a grey-ish yellow

[pale sigil]

starlight

colorblind remember

[stark bobcat]

that sure looks like a laptop

[latent mural]

That's beize

[crisp granite]

I thought you meant this

rose gold

[latent mural]

Beize is like pink brown

[crisp granite]

comes with the M1 MBAs

[final flame]

its closer to a light gold than rose gold

[crisp granite]

not the M2 MBAs

[pale sigil]

Kinda insane the ipad pro screen is almost the same size as a macbook

its just so hard to justify

8gb ram and 256gb....

[stark bobcat]

why the pro? what are the differences?

[astral haven]

2 usb c ports lel

[latent mural]

Bro that's such a scam LOL

[stark bobcat]

lmfao

[astral haven]

or is it 4

[final flame]

I wanna youre gonna get the same amount of storage for the same price with the iPad pro

[pale sigil]

MacBook Air is way more reasonable

[final flame]

then get it if you don't need the more performance

[pale sigil]

ye but then Doge moans at me

[final flame]

it still performs well for a laptop at that price range

[crisp granite]

get

the

14" mbp

ffs

the best Macbook atm
mainly because of the chassis, speakers, screen, and NO FUCKING TOUCH BAR ON THE PRO MODEL FUCK YEAH

[stark bobcat]

why touchbar bad=

dont own apple device

wish I had an ipad tho

[shadow minnow]

Mbp 14 is way better value than air

[crisp granite]

^^

[shadow minnow]

But touchbar was nice

[crisp granite]

...wtf

it was terrible

it was so clunky, and at least for me
it was so finicky, didn't always work

[shadow minnow]

It was great, being able to get exact screen brightness or music volume without exiting apps

Also scrolling through videos and more

[pale sigil]

its simply to much money

[stark bobcat]

I'd say fn buttons exist

[shadow minnow]

I don’t get why is air and pro price difference so small ngl

[stark bobcat]

even my puny windows latop has that

[shadow minnow]

And they do on touchbar as well

[crisp granite]

I just gave up using it for that, and just set it to be a permanent F row
I'd rather the fn and f row for functions like that

[pale sigil]

I dont have a good income :p my budget atm is 1200, 1300 pushing it

[shadow minnow]

Just press fn which you have to do anyways

[crisp granite]

how much is base model 14" pro?

[shadow minnow]

Wait a bit and get 14 pro, after m2 models get released so it gets cheaper

The mini led screen alone is worth it

[crisp granite]

^^

watching loli porn has never been more enjoyable

especially with the wonderful speakers

[stark bobcat]

loli porn on olded screen

[crisp granite]

I'd also mention that the 14" MBP is a shockingly competent gaming machine

[shadow minnow]

Indeed but m2 air won’t be much behind

[shadow minnow]

Used to think OLED is better than miniled but I was wrong

On laptop at least

The brightness is genuinely very useful

[crisp granite]

benchmarks show the M1 Pro having a much more sizable lead still

:P

[shadow minnow]

I can play warthunder on movie details 90fps on M1 Pro not even max

[stark bobcat]

I have never used oled or miniled

[crisp granite]

no longer double the performance though

[stark bobcat]

genuinely can't say waiting for high refresh oled

[astral haven]

yet it cant play timeshift at all which is a 10+ year old game with worse than hl2 level graphics

[shadow minnow]

Probably a compatibility issue then not performance

[astral haven]

the apple macs have the gpu horsepower for gaming but they dont have the compatibility of even the steam deck

[crisp granite]

^^

[astral haven]

out of the 12000+ games on steam, fewer than 10% of them run at all

[shadow minnow]

Well it’s not too easy to get compatibility on arm, still imo pretty impressive for a first gen product

[astral haven]

and theres alot of games that arent on steam

[shadow minnow]

And there are apps made to run windows apps and such even on m1 that work with many

[astral haven]

cpu is
the products made with said cpu arent imo

[crisp granite]

porting kit packaging games in wineskin

NV runs like a dream on M series

native port hopefully made by community at some point
but...yk
for now, decent solution

[astral haven]

probably runs as well as my steam deck

and my steam deck (before upgrades at least) was under half the price

[crisp granite]

I can't really bring a laptop and steam deck with me

[astral haven]

why both?

[crisp granite]

because I'd like both
work and game
but portability is a concern

:)

[astral haven]

🤷‍♂️ my work requires having a company device

cant game on it

[crisp granite]

nice

[shadow minnow]

Crossover aparently may even support some DX12 stuff

[shadow minnow]

M1 Pro is way more powerful

[astral haven]

yet it still performs worse sometimes

[shadow minnow]

Yes but crossover should solve that in most games and adds compatibility for example

[astral haven]

the m1 pro gets wrecked by the z16 on the compute power front but the compatibility is a problem

not a single thing the z16 is capable of the m series can beat it at

yet not a single person will ever have or even want a z16 at home

[crimson wigeon]

Why would I want a z16 when z80 is like 64 more

[shadow minnow]

How much does it cost?

[astral haven]

you cant buy it

[frozen ingot]

now why would you want to go out and buy something with an 8-bit cpu?

[astral haven]

even if you have a million dollars you cant get one

[shadow minnow]

Well if it’s really expensive to make then I would imagine it outperforming m1

It’s just that bigger die sizes tend to lead to more performance possibility

[astral haven]

no i mean like
1000x to 100k times faster

millions of atomic transactions per second

vs sub 100 that the macs are capable of

[shadow minnow]

How many are x86 CPUs capable of

[astral haven]

depends

[shadow minnow]

But also I don’t get the point of comparing them

[shadow minnow]

Something like 12900k let’s say

[astral haven]

few thousand

[shadow minnow]

So still get outperformed by a lot

[cursive summit]

Hmmm a new Yamaha headphone

[astral haven]

tho with pcie accelerators it can go up to a million

[shadow minnow]

I don’t see how can m1 be compared to z16

[cursive summit]

YAMAHA YH-5000SE Available in late December. Price: 495,000 Yen ($3,500)

[astral haven]

thats the point

[cursive summit]

They look so damn HD800

[astral haven]

you cant compare it because it cant even run the test to compare it

[cursive summit]

Anyone have a clue how Yamaha stuff sounds?

[shadow minnow]

Steam deck and m1 are kinda comparable

[astral haven]

@cursive summit their pianos and motorcycles sound great

[shadow minnow]

Both can run in very portable devices

[astral haven]

which is why thats what i compared

[shadow minnow]

And are consumer focused

[frozen ingot]

I've only had yamaha monitors

[cursive summit]

I can agree with that

[frozen ingot]

they sound good imo but can be a bit of an acquired taste

[astral haven]

but the steam deck is an order of magnitude cheaper and siiiiiiignficantly better at gaming standalone

[shadow minnow]

In games M1 Pro can’t run indeed

[crisp granite]

^^

[wheat plume]

imagine a teenage girl who's bloodstream is nothing but cocaine and benzos, armed with a single corporate credit card, which has an overdraft of 700 trillion
THIS is your competition
Sseth - Space Warlord Organ Trading Simulator

[shadow minnow]

But well both were kinda made to do something else tbf

[crisp granite]

the M1 Pro is wonderfully competent when it's supported

otherwise, it's not really a contest

[astral haven]

try gaming without a mouse on mac

[shadow minnow]

I am doing it rn lol

It’s great actually

[astral haven]

the trackpad is atrocious

[crisp granite]

tried it
kinda blows
I opt for an outboard mouse

[astral haven]

i have no idea how you can play anything fast paced

[shadow minnow]

lol what it’s literally the best laptop trackpad

And I am playing warthunder rn

[astral haven]

does warthunder require you to aim?

lel

[shadow minnow]

Even when I had connected mouse I used to switch to trackpad for accurate aiming

[shadow minnow]

Yes?

[astral haven]

wow

[shadow minnow]

Weakspots

[crisp granite]

...outboard mouse

[shadow minnow]

Need them with 50mm cannon

[astral haven]

ah but thats not standalone

[crisp granite]

and honestly the trackpad works in a pinch

[shadow minnow]

Trackpad I use for aiming while mouse for quickly rotating

For me trackpad is so accurate

Way more than a mouse

[crisp granite]

a mouse should be carried with a laptop lol
it only makes sense

[shadow minnow]

Partially due to my DPI

Still I haven’t used a mouse in a while

[crisp granite]

besides
I don't have the space for a chromebook and steam deck
so a macbook on it's own is perfect

[astral haven]

ah but its not needed on deck
and i can use the deck without a tray in the bus

[shadow minnow]

As long as the game doesn’t require right clicks

[shadow minnow]

And it’s not needed on macbooks either

And m1 is also in iPads

[astral haven]

ipads vs deck is an argument to be made bc of the app store

and the 120hz is a solid advantage

however

[shadow minnow]

The screen overall

Not just the refresh rate

[astral haven]

the $400 ipad vs the $400 steam deck is a landslide for the steam deck

[shadow minnow]

For gaming

Which iPad is not intended just for gaming

[astral haven]

yes for gaming the base ipad is atrocious

[shadow minnow]

I haven’t seen anyone in school writing notes on their steamdeck yet

[crisp granite]

^^

[astral haven]

sure

[shadow minnow]

Likes yes steamdeck is made for one purpose so it’s better at it

Just like Xbox series X and PS5 are a great value compared to PCs just for gaming

[astral haven]

but you also probably havent seen someone using one of the samsung stylus chromebooks

[crisp granite]

again
I need both
steam deck is dogshit for note-taking
and that's the primary reason I tote a macbook
for gaming, it works fine for the few games I have mac ports of and play every now and then

[crisp granite]

...I have

:\

yuck

[astral haven]

you have?

[crisp granite]

unfortunately so

[astral haven]

are you sure?

they are insanely rare

i got a chance to try one and it was awesome

[shadow minnow]

Anyways I’d argue unless a game requires right clicks it’s playable on MacBook trackpads as they are really good trackpads

But yes macbooks are worse for gaming in general

You shouldn’t get them for just gaming if that’s what you want

[crisp granite]

only one person I've seen use it

[astral haven]

ive never actually seen someone use it, i just got a chance to use one bc a customer needed a charger

[shadow minnow]

For me I use MacBook for a lot of stuff, though my phone for even more

[astral haven]

was a while ago tho

but it was insane

[shadow minnow]

And yes I wish I could play more games on it but well

Speakers and screen are great

[astral haven]

completely embarasses the ipad for about the price of the apple pencil on its own lel

and the stylus is included in the box

[crisp granite]

a stylus that'll last you a month if you're lucky

[astral haven]

what

[crisp granite]

[astral haven]

never heard of a broken samsung stylus unless you actually went out of your way to snap it in half

[crisp granite]

the one person who I've seen using the samsung chromebook tablet 2-in-1 scary thing

I've seen snap 3 different styluses mid-use

the tips wore out fast too, from what I've seen

[astral haven]

thats really strange

[crisp granite]

within a month

[astral haven]

when i was at my old job i would always nab the styluses from the ewasted samsung tablets and they were always in great condition

tho maybe the samsung chromebooks came with worse styluses

[shadow minnow]

How does it embarrass it?

[astral haven]

for the price i can absolutely see that

[shadow minnow]

But also ngl it’s hard to justify a GPU when I would only use my pc for gaming

[astral haven]

having a more capable and more accurate pen that is also passive in a device that costs very similarly to the apple pencil itself

the apple and surface pens needing to be active when wacom and samsung figured it out ages ago is a complete travesty

sure you can have rechargeable ble features like the samsung phones have, but the pen itself shouldnt need to be charged to be a pen

[shadow minnow]

Well anyways macbooks can play LiS and Minecraft so the two best games ever, rest doesn’t matter

And south of the circle

So they are great for gaming

Apple Pencil gen 1 charging was genius ngl

[crisp granite]

*metro exodus and minecraft

[astral haven]

genius relative to you maybe lel

[crisp granite]

*and resident evil 8

who the fuck plays south of the circle lmfao

(I did, it's actually alright)

[shadow minnow]

Now that’s objectively false

[astral haven]

20 iq points is alot...

and i suspect your iq is above 84

so the best idea out of 10 random people on the street would be genius level relative to that

[shadow minnow]

What if not though

[astral haven]

then you couldnt hold a job good enough to afford a macbook

[shadow minnow]

Uh I don’t own this MacBook nor did I buy it nor do I have a job

[astral haven]

hmm

[crisp granite]

bexin has these things called

"parents"

they keep him in apple arcade subscriptions and macbooks as needed

[astral haven]

well the chances are still relatively low that you could hold this conversation even with under 84 iq

[shadow minnow]

Eh I think at 83 it wouldn’t be much of an issue

[astral haven]

youd be surprised

im talking us standard iq test btw

[shadow minnow]

Though I guess that would lower my chances of getting an interview at Oxford which I should know if I got it within next two weeks

Actually can be any day now, even today which is kinda scary

[astral haven]

being admitted to oxford nearly guarantees over 100 iq

[shadow minnow]

Or Royal blood

[astral haven]

gotta remember 100 iq is by definition exactly average

[crisp granite]

being admitted to oxford guarantees ur a tryhard

[shadow minnow]

Then I won’t get in

[crisp granite]

or just...

actually smart

yk

[astral haven]

if you have under 80 iq no matter how hard you try you wont be able to accomplish anything

[shadow minnow]

Anyways for now I have an offer to university of Strathclyde at least which is my safe choice

[cursive summit]

Feelsbadman

[crisp granite]

safe choice, always good to have those
I had 3

got into one of em

well, actually 2

[shadow minnow]

I mean to be fair it’s minimum BBB so not entirely safe since I am taking further maths I suppose

[crisp granite]

but one of them was like the "extreme back up to do well for one year and transfer to another uni for rest of undergrad"

[stark bobcat]

how much they paying u?

[shadow minnow]

For what?

[crisp granite]

to attend

[shadow minnow]

• sth

But well Strathclyde would be my 5th choice out of 5 in the UK

[cursive summit]

The university in a place nobody has ever heard of

[shadow minnow]

Never heard of Glasgow?

[cursive summit]

That a kiss of sorts?

[pale sigil]

shut the fuck up

[cursive summit]

no you shut the fuck up

[stark bobcat]

No you hang up first

[reef patrol]

NO, THIS IS PATRICK

[empty pasture]

https://www.brinkbionics.com/home-vr-6

so I just came across this very interesting stuff

https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/impulse-neuro-controller-for-pc-gaming#/updates/all

[brittle echo]

My computer keeps restarting while trying to load up games. It did this before and I switched out my gpu psu and mb. Still does it. It shows Kernal power error. I have the latest nvidea Driver. Any suggestions?

[cursive summit]

That's a weird one

I mean the easiest solution is to google

https://www.drivereasy.com/knowledge/solved-kernel-power-41-critical-error-on-windows-10/

[pale sigil]

Anyone know why this happens

[wheat plume]

minimised apps

oh wait most of those are the same.. xd

is your wallpaper solid grey?

[cursive summit]

Task view I think it's called

Windows logo key + Tab shortcut

[crimson wigeon]

Buggy shit software

[wheat plume]

^

[crimson wigeon]

See if maybe turning off that nonsense that adds tabs to alt tab clears things (why would anyone want that)

[shadow minnow]

@pale sigil would this one be alright?

https://pc.bazos.sk/inzerat/144396678/apple-macbook-13-2009-256gb-ssd-4gb-ram.php

[final flame]

@cursive summit interesting new headphone
https://drop.com/buy/drop-ultrasone-signature-x?utm_source=Iterable&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=5549726&referer=LXSVYE&mode=guest_open&iterableCampaignId=5549726&iterableTemplateId=7499691

hope this is truly a good bass headphone

[cursive summit]

Bass sucks

And now I'm going back to sleep

[final flame]

yea, speakers, not everyone wants to use speakers for everything

[pale sigil]

Anyone know any software that can crop real quick? nothing seems to compare with the windows photos app

*video cropper

sorry

https://mrpl.me/wa6903b_rfK0.mp4

problem is with photos atm is it doesn't encode nice

i only use photos to crop

or add slowmo

very easy and quick

Oh

its working now

the fuck

for some reason lately when i saved it would just show the file name in discord only when i saved via that app

well ok then it works again

[waxen hatch]

[crisp granite]

Extreme situations call for extreme measures!
Guys, many branches of the economy are suffering hard now, fighting to navigate through this rough, unpredictable terrain. LOUQE is no exception. We weathered the pandemic and the component shortages that followed, the newfound positivism was quickly overshadowed by new developments that are currently causing global instability, financially, geopolitically, and environmentally.

Many of the players in our field,
who have been pushing the boundaries and driving the change in the industry have either closed shops or put their operations on hold, a few are still fighting, likely facing the same challenges everyone else does.

We have always tried our best to be transparent,
involving the community in the development and consider your suggestions. It is time to share again... LOUQE is suffering from liquidity issues, the summer months have been particularly difficult for us. This has led to a situation where we have significant inventory on our hands that needs to be pushed for us to stay afloat.

The plan is to sell off the inventory at a ridiculously low price point!
Hopefully this will open the floodgates and allow us to reach the needed cash flow. We’re running a FIRE SALE, on our webstore and via Amazon US, and we hope you can help us out by grabbing a unique award-winning premium SFF case and accessories for less than what it costs to produce.

Thank you all for your persistent support!

// Patrik and Team LOUQE

if you want Louqe stuff...it's all half price

scoop up a solid case for a dirt cheap price and hopefully they'll fight another day

the riser cables included in both the ghost and raw S1s are worth 100€ on their own iirc

[stark bobcat]

these do look nice sadly not something I need or want rn besides I have some liquidity issues of my own

[empty wren]

Bruh

[cursive summit]

Lightshot

Ah video cropper

[reef patrol]

No such thing - Has to be reencoded.

[cursive summit]

Poor scarlet

https://9to5mac.com/2022/11/17/tim-cook-apple-watch-fall-story/

Yeah I other than marketing I really don't see much interest in such posts

[reef patrol]

According to the report, he was actually the seventh accident on that same trail that day due to the rainy conditions.

Oh India.

[cursive summit]

I wonder how did the teen even afford an apple watch over there

[reef patrol]

India's gone hard on single child, which means much higher living standards. Clearly not a peasant family though.

[cursive summit]

Well actually it seems they are not that bad

Kind of like our minimum salary like 5years ago

[ashen spindle]

yeah but they also have an insane amount of people and big part of them are faily poor so that drags down the average a lot

[cursive summit]

https://www.phoronix.com/news/AMD-GPUOpen-RRA-Open-Source

Have we seen this in action yet

Also naming their file .RDF is a bad idea

I've had to work with .rdf files before, it's already existing

[fair gull]

highly doubt u mean rdf

maybe rtf

An RDF file is a document written in the Resource Description Framework (RDF) language, which is used to represent information about resources on the web. It contains information about a website in a structured format called metadata. RDF files may include a site map, an updates log, page descriptions, and keywords.

[cursive summit]

I've done both

[chrome estuary]

why can't any of these companies make a 120/144hz 1440p oled gaming monitor in 27"?

[cursive summit]

I doubt you'll see a 27" soon

[chrome estuary]

I do not need a 4k 48" monster on my desk.

[cursive summit]

But there are LG panels coming with like, ~30" sizes iirc

[chrome estuary]

i think i could handle 30" as it's not that much more than 27

[cursive summit]

Well, 32" I mean

[chrome estuary]

1440p at 27" is perfect imo

[cursive summit]

30" is not really a thing

That is actually is

I found 32" a bit big for 1440p

That's probably 4K territory

[chrome estuary]

27" 4k is a little small

[frozen ingot]

am using a 32" 1440p

its not the crispest in the world but its fine, I don't mind it

[cursive summit]

I had one, but found it too big

[junior jewel]

fr that would be so perfect

[chrome estuary]

I have the samsung G7 27"

[junior jewel]

i have some alienware 240hz 27”

got it awhile ago

really wanna get the 240hz 1440p 27”

[fickle ore]

@ashen spindle https://www.lg.com/us/monitors/lg-27gr95qe-b

[cursive summit]

I really don't like their ultragear brand

It's either absolute budget ass dog

Or higher end stuff

[fickle ore]

this offends me

[cursive summit]

What more do you want

Take it or leave it

[fickle ore]

It's probably 2.0 given how it's 240hz at 1440p at 10b

[frozen ingot]

I don't like new lg stuff period, their tvs die left and right after a couple years these days

just reeks of planned obsolescense

[cursive summit]

That's the sad reality of new devices

There's a saying over here in ex-bloc

"Soviet stuff made to last, capitalist stuff breaks fast"

Which honestly is not false at all, my grandma still owns stuff from the 80s and 90s whereas the newer stuff just breaks often

[fickle ore]

Actually it's prob just 1.4a DSC

[tropic nacelle]

Do they? Don't most people get 5 or 6 year warranty here at least (uk) and anecdotally I have known many with LG TVs and OLED TVs without failure. (TVs obviously can fail but I don't think they are anymore than normal percentages)

[frozen ingot]

I got an lg tv from 2008 that still works

my aunts tv from like 2015 broke recently and I did a bit of digging and apparently tons of those things fail after only a few years of use

I dunno seems kinda sus to me

[cursive summit]

My CX is still going strong, thank god

[wheat plume]

Im guessing wooting udev will be safe, cause there is already this file in the rules

[vagrant pagoda]

Low end big box models of TV's always don't last.

They cheap panels pushed really hard

[wheat plume]

how change media key volume step plasma desktop?

all the websites I see tyell you to change the steps in the volume panel icon settings

but that only changes it when you scroll the mouse over the volume icon, not when using the media keys on the keyboard

[cursive summit]

Lol

Literally got wrecked by Steve

When the official reason why it was burning was... poorly plugged in connector

Tom's Hardware is a shitshow

[reef patrol]

I wasn't super impressed by GN either. They seem to consider the issue solved with "just plug it in correctly", which is such an Apple take to have.

It should never become an issue where you should be able to plug in something like a GPU enough that it has connection, but not enough that it's safe.

[cursive summit]

The issue is solved with plug in correctly, though

[shadow minnow]

They also said possible solutions nvidia can make, what else is there to say?

[shadow minnow]

Yes that’s what they also said?

And suggested how it may be done

[cursive summit]

They literally said that you should not be concerned if you have made sure that the adaptor is fully plugged in

And where the issues are lying

None of the issues should cause any problems if the thing is properly inserted

It's still on Nvidia to fix the damn thing by overhauling the design and making sure the QC is better

On another news,https://einstein11.aei.uni-hannover.de/host/13022119 . Linking a wccftech article cause that's where I found this from https://wccftech.com/amd-ryzen-threadripper-7000-storm-peak-cpu-96-zen-4-cores-480-mb-cache-spotted/

A pretty damn OP Threadripper

192 threads notlikethis

[ashen spindle]

GN cant get nvidia or AIBs or pcie sig to change it, all they can do is what they did, find the issue, tell users how they can fix it and relay it to nvidia and tell them to make better shit

[cursive summit]

So lads

I remember that Linus did a 128 core Epyc test where he played games without a GPU

I think it was Crysis

[thick elk]

If I remember correctly they stated pretty clearly that it's too easy not to insert the connector correctly.

[cursive summit]

Logically speaking, if we get CPU cores into like, 1024 cores or so

Can we just.. not use a GPU?

[ashen spindle]

no it wont scale

[thick elk]

Was about to say that, if I remember correctly it doesn't even scale to 128

[frozen ingot]

cpu cores and gpu cores aren't really designed to do the same types of calculations either

[ashen spindle]

the 7700X is a better cpu than the 7900X because its just one CCD

enjoy the issues if you had to spread gaming out over 12 CCDs instead of 2

[frozen ingot]

so using a cpu for it will not be optimized anyways

[cursive summit]

Isn't that a software limitation?

Specifically the scheduler

[stark bobcat]

Yeah why would you ever want Specialized hardware when you can have slower general purpose hardware

[thick elk]

As for crysis, it's not that a game like crysis can't run on cpu rendering alone, it's just that the engine is not optimized to do so.

[ashen spindle]

no physical connection is by definition a physical limitation

software cant make electrons go faster

[thick elk]

Schedulers can assign threads of a game to one ccd though.

[frozen ingot]

you got specialized bits of hardware for certain tasks, you got processors specifically designed to process and generate digital audio in various ways too as an example

[ashen spindle]

yeah but you wont have 1024 cores in one ccd in maybe ever

[thick elk]

Fair enough, and for rendering consistent latency is rather important

Then again I am sure that if you dedicate time to optimize for this quite stupid scenario you could get decent performance.

[stark bobcat]

Just because you could doesn't mean you should

[ashen spindle]

well sure, if you optimize for the worse option so the better hardware deliberately wont perform better

[frozen ingot]

back in the day before gpus existed the cpu did have to render graphics, but had to do it with a layer of software to make the instructions understandable to the cpu

they called it software rendering and it wasn't great

[stark bobcat]

I can see a future with far more apus but pure cpu rendering is actually a joke

[thick elk]

It would obviously make 0 sense buty it could be done.

[ashen spindle]

apus will get to the point that for everyday stuff it will be enough but games get more and more demanding and gpus will have to catch up for quite some time

and cpus

[thick elk]

End of the day it all boils down to cost, you could build way faster APU's but in most cases a separate GPU is just cheaper.

[ashen spindle]

#1019755933959733258

[hasty geyser]

ye fixed sry

question is in support now

[ashen spindle]

You can make faster apus than we have but not apus that are faster than dedicated gpus until we really are at point where the latency is the limiting factor

[thick elk]

Not faster than the highest end ones sure, but the lower ranges, it's mostly costs.

[ashen spindle]

yea

[cursive summit]

We are at the stage though where an iGPU can contest an RTX 3060/3070 in performance though

It's just that no product of such caliber has been released just yet

Most players would not look further than a 3060 anyways

[ashen spindle]

because it would also cost more to have that in an igpu

[wheat plume]

https://youtu.be/JXJqxBEDxdM

hekin quick

[latent mural]

lol old news

[wheat plume]

that is such an oddly specific refresh rate

138Hz

[vagrant pagoda]

its the limit of a controller maybe

[astral haven]

It's an overclock

[wheat plume]

I wonder can it be locked to 120, cause most games have a vsync mode for that

[astral haven]

It defaults to 120

[wheat plume]

ah

thats better

[astral haven]

You have to dick around in the menus for 138

[wheat plume]

I see

[vagrant pagoda]

it dose adaptive sync so you can just use a 120 limiter

[wheat plume]

youtube can open videos inline now...

and its fucking strange

you stay on the home page, but the video plays and you can see the comments and description and shit like normal

[reef patrol]

Good news - Getting a new TV for black friday.
Bad news - It's because one of my cats toppled our current one, ded

[wheat plume]

o ;-;

bad cat

try vesa mounting it?

[vagrant pagoda]

should always have safety straps on tall stuff if you have animals!

[reef patrol]

We never got around to it because we're moving soon, and moved in back in feb.

[vagrant pagoda]

F

[reef patrol]

Guess it was time though. We had a 43" pre-smartTV Samsung, which is like a decade old.

Upgrading to a 50" with 120hz from LG

[ashen spindle]

I assume you mean wall mount it or so, VESA is just the standard, normal desk stand could also be a vesa mount and not offer much cat protection 😛

[misty saffron]

you’d be surprised but vsync can be forced for any refresh rate

regardless of the shit code game developers write

[thick elk]

the desk clamp I use however would be relatively cat proof. Also a larger tv with a heavier base would help here

without mounting

[misty saffron]

in the nvidia control panel at the very least

[ashen spindle]

yes vsync on in most cases just sets it to the refresh rate it detects on the monitor

[misty saffron]

vsync is properly done by the graphics api so it’s all handled in nvidia’s/amd’s implementation

[reef patrol]

https://www.lg.com/uk/tvs/lg-50qned816qa

Dis one. Man... took minutes to find out how to change display language. Nicely done LG.

[misty saffron]

“display language” in this context is very ambiguous mansen

[astral haven]

How?

[reef patrol]

wat