u just need to know if u like that shape
#🔌│tech
stark bobcat
charred lodge
v2 doesnt look good
charred lodge
good idea ill go to a hardware store and test out what i want - oh wait i cant
charred lodge
that too the bigger problem is that im kinda grounded rn
stark bobcat
lol
stark bobcat
well if you are not an adult yet I think it's quite possible u might switch your grip type
charred lodge
also im dying for the wooting half my keys feel scratchy and my spacebar rattles more than a skeletons bones
stark bobcat
I switched from palm to 1 3 1 for some reason
charred lodge
well if you are not an adult yet I think it's quite possible u might switch your...
i think 18 is when you turn into an adult
i cant leave my home rn tho
steelseries shouldnt be too bad
stark bobcat
steelseries make ok mice
I don't remeber what it was but something about them sucks
charred lodge
do you want any mouse with that keyboard
stark bobcat
what an abomination of a mouse lol
charred lodge
ikr
stark bobcat
holes + a million buttons
charred lodge
thats more reasonable in buttons
but the holes make me feel uncomfortable for some reason
theyre diamonds
stark bobcat
even tho I am using a mouse with holes rn
I fucking hate that shit
I wish that trend would die
charred lodge
im using model o it has holes
stark bobcat
and thankfully razer and logitech don't do that
charred lodge
i dont mind it too much its comfortable
charred lodge
lets not talk about how difficult it is to get rid of the dust yeah
stark bobcat
I use this abomination btw
charred lodge
wtf
stark bobcat
works ok with my mouse grip tho
charred lodge
it looks like a squished cat
stark bobcat
one of the things I don't like about it is that it has 0 software so I only get rought dpi steps
no 1000
charred lodge
fk it im going for the deathadder v2
stark bobcat
which would be my preffered
stark bobcat
fk it im going for the deathadder v2
just look for a cheap one since it's an older one should not be that expensive anymore
charred lodge
more buttons + docking station compability
v3 doesnt even have a dpi button
how am i supposed to use that for other stuff than dpi
f5
f5 on the dpi button
not for long
stark bobcat
for extra mouse buttons I think logitech makes the most comfortable to reach ones from what I know
charred lodge
for extra mouse buttons I think logitech makes the most comfortable to reach one...
logitech ergonomic pile of shit
stark bobcat
idk how you'd use these comfortably outside of 1 3 1 grip tbh
charred lodge
i use this on my model o too
astral haven
logitech ergonomic pile of shit
Again look at the non superlight
4 useable extra buttons
stark bobcat
i use this on my model o too
I guess there is no problem then
I personally don't use any extra mouse buttons
scroll wheel down for jumping only
charred lodge
looking at the superlight rn
stark bobcat
if that even counts
charred lodge
where buttons
astral haven
looking at the superlight rn
Non superlight
astral haven
But the superlight can bind extra actions to key + other key
astral haven
I have back + right click set to close tab
Back + Left click opens a tab
Back + Middle click pauses music
astral haven
You set it how you need it
stark bobcat
i think 18 is when you turn into an adult
I think it is when your parents can't ground you anymore
💀
stark bobcat
I don't get it
astral haven
That's not grounded lel
stark bobcat
🤷♂️
idk I might have the rona 2
who cares
it's been a minute since it released 😄
stark bobcat
whichever u like best
charred lodge
logitech or razer now
stark bobcat
always best to test them out first buy from a store with a decent return policy
astral haven
logitech or razer now
Seems strange to intentionally buy a mouse with a virus when you already have one lel
charred lodge
since when did red switches feel that scratchy
astral haven
since when did red switches feel that scratchy
Since they used contacts?
Aka forever?
charred lodge
Seems strange to intentionally buy a mouse with a virus when you already have on...
cant get any worse now can it
stark bobcat
red switch != other red switch
charred lodge
ah yes
stark bobcat
cherry red != other manufacturer linear switch
charred lodge
ok so now i either take the deathadder v2 or the g pro or wait for a different mouse to release
charred lodge
its 3:27 am i think im gonna leave soon
no wait
ok deathadder v2 it is
welp now i know what i want for christmas :)()()(
stark bobcat
I really recommend testing the shape first logitech shapes are very safe
deathadder shape is very divisive
charred lodge
ill do it when i can go outside again
charred lodge
deathadder shape is very divisive
i see that
astral haven
Ye
The gpro feels like a fatter o imo
charred lodge
im out now its 3:30am
astral haven
The deathadder is very different
pale sigil
latent mural
ok so now i either take the deathadder v2 or the g pro or wait for a different m...
Gpro
Every mouse that has been released in the last few months are all gpro copies trying to be lighter n stuff
pale sigil
Twitter
reef patrol
reef patrol
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bZFQDeBpHmg
I... I need this.
indigo delta
I switched to windows after Catalina. Never updated my Macs to Catalina lmao
misty bronze
i haven’t used mac since like 2015
fair gull
i just use whatever newest macos
indigo delta
Funny because I switched to Mac OS X Leopard after Vista because I hated Vista
And now I switched to Windows 10 because I didn't like Catalina 😂
misty bronze
plan to get a macbook pro 14 once m2 pro chips comes on them
indigo delta
I haven't used Mac since 2020
misty bronze
i dislike win10
indigo delta
I've only been back on windows for 2 years
misty bronze
i’m tempted to switch to linux on my desktop as well
misty bronze
thankfully a lot of games support linux now
indigo delta
I contemplated getting the upcoming Mac mini for music production but I might just switch fully from Logic to Ableton
misty bronze
i’ll just not play valorant
misty bronze
play apex instead
indigo delta
Didn't know apex was available on Linux
misty bronze
yeah some major anti cheats are now supported
but it’s up to the individual game devs to enable it for linux or not
indigo delta
Ahhh
fair gull
I contemplated getting the upcoming Mac mini for music production but I might ju...
ngl id still use macs for anything work/production
misty bronze
kernal level anti cheat has very little hope though
so no pubg
pubg is dead anyway though
indigo delta
I just miss Spaces and Expose on Mac 
I miss my Mac workflow
But having 2 monitors for PC helps me cope
misty bronze
you can have multiple monitors on mac though
indigo delta
I probably won't be switching back to Mac since I also moved from iPhone to S9+ in 2018
misty bronze
so idk how that helps
indigo delta
I was referring to how Spaces and Expose helps emulate the convenience of multiple monitors
But on windows you really do need multiple monitors
misty bronze
oh right
indigo delta
If I continued using iPhones, I probably would still use a Mac
misty bronze
i use iphones and don’t have much reason to switch off rn
indigo delta
Because having an iPhone but Windows PC or Android but Mac is just awkward
misty bronze
especially now that they should be moving to usb c
indigo delta
So much hassle
crimson wigeon
What does spaces and expose do differently compared to say, winkey+tab?
indigo delta
Android improved so much after 2016 that it's actually usable lol
God i remember android in 2012
Pain
@crimson wigeon it's not something i can explain concisely. The work flow is just nice 👌
plain axle
wheat plume
thankfully a lot of games support linux now
support Proton more like it ;-; but still, im glad so many work these days :D All thanks to valve <3
misty bronze
support Proton more like it ;-; but still, im glad so many work these days :D Al...
yeah i didn’t specify proton because then i’d have to explain what proton is
wheat plume
true xd
But yeah
Apex adding EAC support <3 fuk ye
Epic wont add EAC support for Fortnite because "its so easy to change kernel on Linux"
but..you can also do that on Android, its easy if you have custom recovery installed
twice the bass? Two times 0 is still nothing!
Yeh....Dot sounds horrible even compared to the Google Nest Mini
ikr
youve just been master baited
ok, this guy is funny
halcyon moss
watch the next amd gen actually use the new power connector
frozen ingot
is amd pulling a samsung?
mocking their rival only to do the same thing next generation?
halcyon moss
mocking their rival only to do the same thing next generation?
tbh it is a logical move forward
wheat plume
Why is it legal for streaming services to just remove a show / series you bought from them without warning or refund
yet if you try to make a digital backup of a DVD that you OWN, its illegal and you could go to jail?
final flame
because screw you the consumer
gusty kiln
Think backups are fine, just don't sell it
final flame
^
ashen spindle
private copies are legal, you can't redistribute it
final flame
ripping your own stuff has been fine as long as you don't distribute it, they realistically have no way to know if you're ripping something.
reef patrol
Why is it legal for streaming services to just remove a show / series you bought...
Depending on where you live it isn't.
frozen ingot
japanese tech companies selling their souls left and right
cursive summit
What's security
ashen spindle
you cant turn ime off and microcode could also be some hotfix or something more than just specter patches
so decide for yourself if thats worth it for you
frozen ingot
nvidia lost it some time ago
stark bobcat
That is true
I mean there is a reason I bought an AMD card despite thinking NVIDIA cards are better products overall
gusty kiln
How much slower is it to the 4090?
ashen spindle
Yes
gusty kiln
At work can't watch
ashen spindle
reaches around 70% of the 90
gusty kiln
Yikes
frozen ingot
I'll stick to nvidia because I don't like to take chances
gusty kiln
I'm willing to give amd a shot next upgrade, but people will want several generations of stable drivers
frozen ingot
the chance of poopy drivers/stability
I never buy top of the line cards anyways, which seems to be the only ones affected by this issue
halcyon moss
/shrug amd has been mostly fine for me
ashen spindle
rdna1 has been mostly stable, rdna2 has been just as stable as nvidia and they even went back to fix old stuff like minecraft performance etc,
halcyon moss
not less than with nvidia at least
stark bobcat
Stability is absolutely fine unless your ram is unstable which would be on you
ashen spindle
if there is nothing on launch for amd that is an immediate issue you are as likely to have anything as with nvidia
frozen ingot
they've been wonky for so long I have severe trust issues with amd when it comes to drivers
ashen spindle
they have been not wonky for also very long
halcyon moss
stop spreading FUD
ashen spindle
it's valid to see a trend and expect that to continue, but it's been not the trend for quite some time
stark bobcat
AMD actually seems to have somewhat started to care about drivers last 2 have been whql
halcyon moss
wat
halcyon moss
drivers without whql? what are you on
ashen spindle
lots of amd gpu drivers are not whql... or have been for a long time
frozen ingot
seen a fair share of issues with 6900xt among others, including amds own forums
ashen spindle
be more specific
frozen ingot
not gonna tell other people what they should buy or not, if it works for them cool
ashen spindle
what sort of issues
stark bobcat
I mean NVIDIA while less frequent also has driver issues on occasion
frozen ingot
performance issues, crashes, stuttering etc
stark bobcat
And my guess is the most recent issues were due to a rewrite to improve opengl performance
ashen spindle
ok so self reporting that could also happen on nvidia?
stark bobcat
Which I welcome
frozen ingot
yes, I just see a lot less of it with nvidyuh
ashen spindle
keep in mind one "issue" that become obvious at one point were people having crashes going from nvidia to amd, becuase the lower driver overhead meant they had more fps in the dx11 title so their ram/cpu OC was not stable anymore
like that sort of issue doesnt mean the drivers are bad
stark bobcat
Also keep in mind Nvidia users will have less issues if their ram is unstable and they just don't know
And I wouldn't say that is AMDs fault
ashen spindle
not saying all those issues are not related, just that we really dont have anything to indicated that for this/next gen the drivers are much worse than nvidia
yes, I know nvidia takes better care for older cards, but that is hardly relevant for deciding on a new gen gpu
frozen ingot
well regardless the end result is more headaches for the user overall
stark bobcat
The only headache I had was with the amd replay shit
Their drivers work but the extra features need work
I have 0 doubt Shadowplay would be better
frozen ingot
I just don't have the patience for potentially more problems or the budget to keep throwing money at it so I just find nvidyuh to be the safest option for my needs
ashen spindle
ok but the point is there is nothing that supports your theory that for this/next gen you have a higher chance of having more issues with AMD
frozen ingot
that doesn't mean I like nvidia
well also like you said, nvidia takes care of older gpus better
and I typically hold on to it for years
ashen spindle
no I meant that in the sense amd dont care for pre RDNA stuff atm because they are still catching up on features and all
I dont mean they drop support after a new gen comes
crimson wigeon
Yes Nvidia sure takes care of older hardware better. My GTX 770 is such a giant fucking pain on Linux! The integrated graphics in my i7 2600K worked so much better it's not even funny
ashen spindle
stark bobcat
Linux + NVIDIA
ashen spindle
alright linux argument heard, judged not relevant
stark bobcat
Oof
crimson wigeon
🙂
frozen ingot
Yes Nvidia sure takes care of older hardware better. My GTX 770 is such a giant ...
the solution is stop using linux 
ashen spindle
anything my point was not that if you hold it long you get worse support, quite the opposite with "fine wine"
frozen ingot
but yeah am aware nvidia are assholes with price gouging and being proprietary everything
crimson wigeon
Even on Windows it's a pain when some stubborn games choose to use it instead of my main AMD GPU for... reasons..
frozen ingot
I think they're a shit company in every regard ethically
halcyon moss
frozen ingot
but I don't want to put down a lot of money on this stuff and I just want the highest possible chance of shit working without a hitch, so nvidia it is
am glad others give amd a chance because competition is nescessary
stark bobcat
I think they're a shit company in every regard ethically
I agree that's why I chose AMD even tho I much prefer NVIDIA features
ashen spindle
my main point with that was that on a 580 or something you will find more people having issues on a new gen
frozen ingot
am also hoping intel will catch up because even more competition is needed
ashen spindle
hence while its valid to see if that trend continues, the current trend does not have any sign of you having less issues on nvidia
frozen ingot
like don't get me wrong I've had issues with nvidia too, my old gtx780 started freezing/crashing on me, some hardware issue
but was also a really old card when it started fucking up
ashen spindle
what you get in the end I really dont care about, just want to make clear that unless we find some big issues on launch week, drivers will be pretty much the same between the two
stark bobcat
700 series is def an L
ashen spindle
fuck sometimes I hate being on ultrawide, I literally have no clue if I would still be CPU bottlenecked or if the 4080 level would be as far apart as on 4k lol
ashen spindle
well the issue is this is the benchmark so idk how much more the cpu bound matters in the actual game lmfao
gusty kiln
Just have the best cpu and not worry about it
halcyon moss
define best :p
frozen ingot
1440p most based resolution
ashen spindle
define best :p
zen4 vcache coming to you at CES 😛
gusty kiln
Yeet
stark bobcat
240p most based resolution
gusty kiln
1080i best resolution
halcyon moss
x3d cpu best for factorio, but a 7950 better for other games /shrug
stark bobcat
Inb4 zen4 v cache maxes out at 8 cores again
gusty kiln
Probably
halcyon moss
which is really fine
ashen spindle
and if they have better cooling it will also not boost lower this time so it literally never loses to any other zen4 cpu
gusty kiln
What cpu are you on now Q?
stark bobcat
It is but some ppl are going to be mad
ashen spindle
5600x, wont upgrade unless I get one from work lel
stark bobcat
Based 5600
halcyon moss
AMD Ryzen 9 6900HS
ashen spindle
oh you finally got one?
halcyon moss
ah, yes i did! Zephyrus g14 2022 version
stark bobcat
Asus 🤮
ashen spindle
working as expected?
gusty kiln
Other than isomer I don't know anyone else with a 5800x3d
frozen ingot
I've been thinking of upgrading my computer for some time but am having second thoughts because I'm kinda bored as shit with videogames
halcyon moss
try rimworld again 😉
stark bobcat
As long as my doesn't break I don't see a reason to upgrade in the next 5 years
ashen spindle
no?
halcyon moss
genoa? is that the obscure name for the new amd cpu gen?
fickle ore
16900k will win
tbh zen 4 3d cache is quite interesting
wonder how much cache can they stack on a smaller node
reef patrol
Heh... I see that LTT and GN are polar opposites as usual.
fair gull
genoa? is that the obscure name for the new amd cpu gen?
smth smth country https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Republic_of_Genoa
stark bobcat
Ltt = nvidia shill
Gn reviews seem to be the most unbiased
They shit on both amd and Nvidia not equally but proportionally to how much dumb shit they did
Or rather not dumb
ashen spindle
HUB also mostly dislike the price for it just like GN
stark bobcat
But greedy
gusty kiln
Does ltt use a different writer for every gpu review?
frozen ingot
LTT shills for nvidia one episode then disses them the next one
ashen spindle
anthony wrote this one, idk who wrote other gpus reviews
ashen spindle
I think its funny because the LTT 40 series reviews have tried to be more about the tech less about the deal, whereas usually that would be the oppsite with GN and co going more into the tech
and price aside it is good shit
stark bobcat
During the mining boom comparing prices was rather pointless
ashen spindle
well also before that
fair gull
i personally didnt mind the ltt reviews of 40series and they didnt seem too biased
ashen spindle
I dont have an issue with it, I just find it odd LTT is basically ignoring this part https://twitter.com/VideoCardz/status/1592456057120763904/photo/1
fickle ore
HUB seems pog if you're after esports fps benches
stark bobcat
Tbh didn't watch them - this was only my observation from the 30series high end reviews
fickle ore
They updated the method afaik for esports benches - they're done on low setting now
stark bobcat
Yeah idk prices are insane. I get that the product not taking into account the price is good but I don't have infinite money and I suspect few do
ashen spindle
also I think techpowerup might've done an oopsie because all the AiB cards are also tested already lol
stark bobcat
So price is always a factor at least for me
ashen spindle
usueally nvidia only allows reviews of the FE for launch
stark bobcat
Hmm I don't think that was the case for lower end models
gusty kiln
They're still using a 5800x, making 1080p results a little weird again
gusty kiln
Tpu
ashen spindle
ah yeah
gusty kiln
I mentioned the same during the 4090 review
ashen spindle
yeye
it is a bit odd
using a evga x570 dark and then just a stock 5800x with pbo
stark bobcat
Even shill foundry put "poor pricing" in their title
gusty kiln
Dunno their workload but retest with newer hardware shouldn't take too long in between reviews
reef patrol
They would need to use old CPUs to do an apples to apples fps test though
ashen spindle
they test A LOT of aib cards so retesting would take a while
stark bobcat
Nah just rerun all the other GPUs
ashen spindle
so I think its fair to keep it same and just keep it in mind when using tpu for gpu results at 180p or so
fair gull
id go for 14TB but sure they are good
ashen spindle
would not get below 7200rpm unless you use it for a NAS
latent mural
i just wanna download games on it
gusty kiln
Still debating to go unraid or be a basic bitch and get a off the shelf NAS
final flame
for games ig it's fine, although seagates are known to fail more often
latent mural
for games ig it's fine, although seagates are known to fail more often
fail?
wdym fail?
ashen spindle
any storage device can/will fail after long enough time
stark bobcat
Oh boy
gusty kiln
Just remember that is server application
stark bobcat
Consumer drives probably would fail faster under these conditions
latent mural
final flame
wd drives are generally more reliable
latent mural
are they good?
final flame
I'd say so
latent mural
would you know anything better or..
fair gull
i mean my seagates havent failed on me but i also didnt run them for 30million hours like backblaze
final flame
just make sure it's a cmr drive
fair gull
that list is completely useless for private uses in gaming pcs
latent mural
just make sure it's a cmr drive
cmr?
final flame
i mean my seagates havent failed on me but i also didnt run them for 30million h...
I have had a Seagate drive fail me before
fair gull
ive had wd fail on me before
halcyon moss
are 5.400rpm drives a thing again?
stark bobcat
Never left
gusty kiln
Just remember to kept them cool
gusty kiln
Drives can die if they are too hot
ashen spindle
are 5.400rpm drives a thing again?
for a NAS you dont really need super high speed
final flame
normal airflow should be good enough to keep it cool no?
halcyon moss
for a NAS you dont really need super high speed
true
gusty kiln
Some hdd mounting place are an afterthought
But yeah at least some air flow is enough
latent mural
what happens if it gets hot
stark bobcat
Under normal use they probably won't get that hot
Unless you live in the sahara or run an fx cpu and 4090
final flame
higher chance of failure if you run it at hotter temps than normal for long periods
latent mural
lol
gusty kiln
for a NAS you dont really need super high speed
Just get 10gbe
Some people edit videos off a nas
latent mural
are they loud?
halcyon moss
150MB/s i see on a 5.900rpm disk
latent mural
like can you actually hear them
final flame
drives can be loudish but that's why you keep the nas in a different room
stark bobcat
New drive will probably not be loud and become louder as it ages. Or at least that's what mine did I only use 1 mind you
Slowly replacing all the spinning rust
latent mural
hmmm
gusty kiln
Can't wait for the day where i can get a 4tb ssd for 200
halcyon moss
i want to upgrade my aging nas.. perhaps next year
gusty kiln
Prebuilt or homemade?
halcyon moss
synology, i have run my own linux nas, too much work
gusty kiln
Synology are about to release some new models
But people are mad because it uses embedded amd
halcyon moss
and power consumption is also a big factor
fair gull
im mad that synology and many others that offer JBOD expansions for their own nas systems just swap pins on connectors so they arent compatible with anything but their own stuff
gusty kiln
Oooff
fair gull
literally had a call once with a synology rep cause we as a partner wanted to use a jbod of theirs for a normal win server... he said the pins are swapped and wed need to build a custom adapter
gusty kiln
Synology also starting to hardware lock some of their platforms
gusty kiln
Is that the one that performs on par with sata ssd?
vagrant pagoda
So many platters
same platters
gusty kiln
New?
vagrant pagoda
i remember when drives hit 99 for 1tb pre tiawain tusnami
gusty kiln
Goddamn
vagrant pagoda
ashen spindle
man this relative difference really makes it apparent there will be at least one 4080 ti and the 4080 really should be more like 800USD
vagrant pagoda
the price is because ship from china
gusty kiln
Oh nice
vagrant pagoda
my current bulk drives are 10tb easy stores lol
i got these to replace most of them
gusty kiln
Relegated to backups?
vagrant pagoda
i ahve tape backup!
gusty kiln
You got those tape machine that are 3 grand?
vagrant pagoda
i have 15 tapes, 12Tb each
gusty kiln
gusty kiln
Those HP tape drives look hella sus
gusty kiln
which is 600TB
What interface does it use for transfer?
vagrant pagoda
What interface does it use for transfer?
SAS
vagrant pagoda
the crazy thing is
the libary dosent talk to the drives at all
you tell it to load a tape and it dose
and then the drive just takes in the tapoe
when you unload a drive, the machine legit hits the eject button
gusty kiln
Does it rewrite data or just write what is different when you do periodic backups?
Or whatever
Idk how tape works
Other than gigachad storage size
vagrant pagoda
tape shows up like any removable drive
vagrant pagoda
i have a backup folder that is kept on my unraid
it dose daily incremental and weekly full
via duplicati
and at the end of backup each day it moves the backups to a second folder instead of deleteing
and that goes to tape
then at the end of the week, to goes to next tape
that is set for 10 weeks
after that is writen, it takes a full backup and writes to a seperate tape
which i keep for ever
and just add more tapes
Duplicati dose the actual backups from windows
i really need a second lto drive
incase this ever dies
gusty kiln
You got an offsite backup?
wheat plume
Fedora is always trying to jump on the latest hype train
things like Wayland and Pipewire are just fads that will die out soon
🤦♀️
bruh
ashen spindle
mhm yes I agree or disagree with that human who said something
crimson wigeon
Yes it's a very good take indeed definitely they're right
cursive summit
mhm yes I agree or disagree with that human who said something
You are assuming its human
Maybe AI written essay or something
AI has feelings too
crimson wigeon
AI lives matter
stark bobcat
this but unironically
vagrant pagoda
AI lives matter
ai lives only matter when they power hot android girls
wheat plume
how does game streaming work?
in terms of hardware?
does one GPU have to run a bunch of games at the same time or somehow split up?
gusty kiln
Don't they use xbox series x as the hardware?
wheat plume
so, they need like a few thousand xboxs??
lethal sparrow
It 4 in the morning
gusty kiln
Maybe you're basically renting 1 at a time
lethal sparrow
🤣
wheat plume
its 5:30pm
lethal sparrow
I’m in australia😂
wheat plume
xd
gusty kiln
12:30 pm here
lethal sparrow
Im so sick I can’t feel my throat I know it random
But I’m in bed everyone sleeping I’m bored
gusty kiln
so, they need like a few thousand xboxs??
Nvidia prices their service based gpu tier
wheat plume
so there is a limit to how many people can stream at once?
cause they dont have enough Xboxs?
vagrant pagoda
they have blade version of xboxs
gusty kiln
That's 0.5 u right?
vagrant pagoda
no
gusty kiln
Oh wait
vagrant pagoda
blades can be anysize
ashen spindle
it's probably just giving you an instance and the instance is containerized and just dynamically gets the resources it can have at max
ashen spindle
yeah its either that or something like https://www.liqid.com/ where you just allocated the resources to where its needed
I imagine nvidia has some in house solution to manage theirs
vagrant pagoda
yeah its either that or something like https://www.liqid.com/ where you just all...
liquid is just bs speak for cloud
ashen spindle
yea sorta
vagrant pagoda
no completley
ashen spindle
well you still need software to have a cloud, you cant just have 10 servers and call the operating username "cloud" and suddenly it acts as a cloud service
ashen spindle
why cant you just directly link it from the source
based on those images I bet its phoronix
cursive summit
I was about to
But anyways https://www.phoronix.com/review/amd-aocc-4
It's not a bad article at all
Some really decent gains here
gusty kiln
Same
wheat plume
he didnt even show them on the Deck that much
gusty kiln
Lenovo is making a competitor
wheat plume
hmm
vagrant pagoda
dosent @astral haven have those?
ashen spindle
yup
wheat plume
what res they use on Deck?
vagrant pagoda
i think i might get them for my desktop
for liotreally watching shows and playing games like civ/rimworld/factoio
lol
wheat plume
But some games launch at 320x180
thats the default if the resolution changes between launches
astral haven
I just enabled the resolution compatibility mode or whatever and It works great
wheat plume
oo
astral haven
Runs at deck native res
wheat plume
they are so much money but im so tempted :'(
astral haven
So the one thing to be aware of is if you are using them where you can't see your surroundings for an extended period of time it does eventually make me nauseous
ashen spindle
Finally got a deluxe strap for the quest 2, dear god anyone who uses the quest 2 with the default head band must want to break their neck
gusty kiln
Lol Wendell finally got his 4090 while everyone else is reviewing the 4080
astral haven
is a usb 3.2 data to usb c video out
The Wacom link takes 2 USB + 1 HDMI/dp and connects to the USB c
vagrant pagoda
The Wacom link takes 2 USB + 1 HDMI/dp and connects to the USB c
no
i wans a usb DATA to type c video
not hdmi/dp
astral haven
adapter stacking time
vagrant pagoda
ill just wait unit i get a x670e
either someone makes a usb 4 one
or i just get the ACE
astral haven
or go rdna3 which has native usb c
vagrant pagoda
or go rdna3 which has native usb c
im not going to game on it
and i use triple screen as my main monitor
with a 4k as a 4th
so id need a dedicated gpu for just the glasses that dont game
x670 i can use igpu
astral haven
maybe
vagrant pagoda
or even usb 3.2 with dp alt
astral haven
i would be surprised if an enthusiast board had usb 4 with video to the igpu
astral haven
unteresting
astral haven
well then there you go
vagrant pagoda
the ace has a type-c 10g with dp alt mode
astral haven
the advantage of the adapter tho is you can unplug the usb and not get the audio to come out of the rather bad built in speakers
astral haven
not really a problem on windows tho i suppose ye
i only use it on android and steam deck both of which are rather poor for audio handling
vagrant pagoda
the x670e hero is the same
2 usb 4 ports
igpu
hdmi igpu
no one is using a tb display on desktop lol
you arent docking with it
its more for expasion
so no need for dgpu over it
ashen spindle
that part is not the problem
latent mural
Then what is lol
ashen spindle
have you watched the video?
latent mural
Nah
wheat plume
Pantone are making it so you need to pay a 90 dollar monthly fee for using their colors
along with buying their physical books and shit
latent mural
WHAT
wheat plume
and you cant use them in adobe anymore
latent mural
HOW DOES THAT MAKE SENSEEE
ashen spindle
yes but its not 90, where did you get 90 a month from
latent mural
Bro ain't no way that's legal
astral haven
watch the video
wheat plume
15 a month
ashen spindle
becuase they dont charge you to use colors in adobe just to use their specific once that are calibrated and standardized and all
astral haven
watch the video jesus christ
ashen spindle
and that
latent mural
But still
ashen spindle
just watch the video
sharp badger
Yeah looks nice
vivid vine
I will wait to see a more in depth review by some, want to see what the advantage would be in pairing it with a GoXLR
But it does look sick compared to my standard StreamDeck
frozen ingot
I love knobby interfaces, almost surprised they didn't think of that sooner
umbral knot
I love knobs 😩
frozen ingot
fair gull
I will wait to see a more in depth review by some, want to see what the advantag...
not gonna lie... i wish all these things like goxlr would be better support on anything thats not windows
fair gull
I love knobs 😩
i uh
Knob
(vulgar, slang, chiefly UK) The penis; dick.
The head of the penis; the glans.
(by extension, derogatory) A contemptible person; dick. quotations ▼
I hope you go suck a johnson
vivid vine
not gonna lie... i wish all these things like goxlr would be better support on a...
Yea, seems like Mac and Linux are just left out the party everytime these big companies come out with something
frozen ingot
knob is knob is knob
fair gull
Yea, seems like Mac and Linux are just left out the party everytime these big co...
ngl surprises me somewhat for mac cause they have a solid api like windows does that doesnt really change between releases
vivid vine
Guess they figure its mainly geared for the Gamer/Streamer type and most of those types are on a Window based system
🤷♂️
frozen ingot
mac users will have to settle for midi controller surfaces
fair gull
i mean goxlr would be also nice for music production which is mainly mac
latent mural
is this bad for a vt scan?
i dont do computer stuff
or virus stuff but i think a trojan is bad
ashen spindle
idk what is the file
crimson wigeon
looks sus
latent mural
its a .rar that was free for 10 min
ashen spindle
what
crimson wigeon
For some reason rars always seem more sus to me
latent mural
.rar file
ashen spindle
I mean that sounds like a virus yes but wtf do you mean "was free for 10min"
latent mural
I don't think you can do rar files
but that definetly is a virus lol
like its a tool to do smth that idek but they released it for free for 10 min
ashen spindle
I don't think you can do rar files
what does that sentence even mean
ashen spindle
yes sounds like a massive scam
latent mural
havent ran it yet
ashen spindle
do not do what he says
latent mural
But that's most likely a virus
LMAO apparently its a tiktok remove invis body feature 💀
too lazy to read what it was
a rare file wouldn't have any detections if it didn't work
just found out 😭
latent mural
LMAO apparently its a tiktok remove invis body feature 💀
wtf is wrong with you
ashen spindle
a rare file wouldn't have any detections if it didn't work
what are you even talking about
ashen spindle
yeah randomly downloading stuff you dont know definitely will get you a virus
latent mural
k
like I was talking about if you can get accurate virus detections if it's a zip or a rar
ashen spindle
yes you can
ashen spindle
idk what you tried
wheat plume
cursive summit
Yeah I'm losing faith in humanity the more I read this thread
ashen spindle
cursive summit
Why does wifi7 exist even
We just started getting into wifi6 support
Barely into wifi6e
Why wifi7
frozen ingot
because shit apparently has to progress and modernize even though noone really asked for it
because that's technology
wheat plume
^
latent mural
What's wifi7
wheat plume
probably just wifi 6 but renamed
ashen spindle
because shit apparently has to progress and modernize even though noone really a...
why do you hate stuff getting better
cursive summit
Like are there even substantial improvements over 6e?
cursive summit
Cause wifi6 releasing first was a "scam" cause all the good stuff was supposedly in 6e and 6 was just a marketing codename
frozen ingot
I bet there will be a replacement for usb-c announced as soon as the first usb-c iphones launch
cursive summit
So how's this any better over 6e which is just starting to get adopted
wheat plume
I bet Wifi 7 will be the same situation that carriers did when they told the phone to display 5G but the actual connection was still 4G
ashen spindle
????
astral haven
So how's this any better over 6e which is just starting to get adopted
More features, higher bndwidth
latent mural
I bet Wifi 7 will be the same situation that carriers did when they told the pho...
my 4G goes further tho..
astral haven
I bet Wifi 7 will be the same situation that carriers did when they told the pho...
That's not how that works
wheat plume
thats what happened for a while
latent mural
Oh
cursive summit
Like I understand the reason for 5G to exist, 4G is painfully slow and the bands are incredibly populated leading to slowdowns
wheat plume
the phones said they were connected to 5G but the connection was still 4g
cursive summit
I don't understand why Wifi7 needs to exist just yet
astral haven
thats what happened for a while
Yes but wifi connections don't show a generation...
latent mural
the phones said they were connected to 5G but the connection was still 4g
Scaam
wheat plume
true
ashen spindle
yes wifi is not mobile network connection, wifi 6 is not 6g...
astral haven
I don't understand why Wifi7 needs to exist just yet
They will be needed soon
VR already needs it
wheat plume
i know
cursive summit
They will be needed soon
VR already needs it
So an incredibly niche and borderline stagnant technology needs it
Anything else?
More... important one?
ashen spindle
should we also not increase pcie generations because right now we dont need pcie6?
latent mural
More... important one? <:dogekek:846285268289323069>
astral haven
Longer range, higher bandwidth for everyone else
ashen spindle
you do realize stuff needs to be out first before you can fully use it and not have it be 100% utilized on launch
cursive summit
should we also not increase pcie generations because right now we dont need pcie...
Honestly, yes
Invent SATA4 first
frozen ingot
tbh if there's anything I'd be half interested in upgrading my rig for it would be VR
astral haven
Invent SATA4 first
It's called nvme
ashen spindle
like do you just want to continue paying for stuff that does not get better ever
astral haven
Where's SATA4
NVME
cursive summit
Quadruple the SATA speeds at least please
astral haven
Quadruple the SATA speeds at least please
NVME is 16x faster?
cursive summit
How does NVMe replace SATA
Last I checked my mobo has barely any nvme connectors and a shit load of SATA
frozen ingot
modern mobos usually has like 3-4 nowadays
astral haven
Last I checked my mobo has barely any nvme connectors and a shit load of SATA
Wow its almost like nvme ports are alot higher bandwidth so you don't need many?
ashen spindle
any that still have 6 sata ports are usually set up that if you use more nvme slots 2 or 3 sata ports get disabled because they share lanes
so it literally replaces it
frozen ingot
getting less common for people to slap half a dozen drives in their main rig these days too
people with lots of storage needs tend to go for external/nas now
astral haven
Also intentionally buying a board with the old tech will get you the old tech
Consumer options generally keep the old ports around untill they are no longer needed
The only reason sata is around is for hdds which have gotten slower not faster over time
latent mural
Yo guys
I'm messing with my wifi settings
Is 40mhz wifi bandwith for 2.4ghz good?
empty wren
No it is very very bad
latent mural
should I set it to 20?
latent mural
no but I can set it to 20 or 40mhz
empty wren
should I set it to 20?
Well play a game
See if you notice
Or try the aim trainer thing on steam
latent mural
lmfao what
latent mural
Yeah
ashen spindle
if you are on 2.4 ghz the best bandwith is 20 mhz
latent mural
Ok but what about 5ghz
astral haven
if you are on 2.4 ghz the best bandwith is 20 mhz
Well it depends
empty wren
Yes but for all I know you could have 40 wireless devices
latent mural
20-80mhz
ashen spindle
in general terms, nothing is always the best because wifi is convoluted yes
empty wren
Wifi better than bluetooth
latent mural
Yes but for all I know you could have 40 wireless devices
I don't lol
empty wren
Okay then
fair gull
id personally go ht20 for 2.4 and ht40 for 5ghz
latent mural
Ty
astral haven
Generally the better your signal is, the better higher numbers are
The more interference the lower numbers better
empty wren
Also the closer you are the better the signal
opal hollow
Just live next to your router
latent mural
Ethernet on pc
latent mural
Also the closer you are the better the signal
It's in my room
My room isn't too big
I got 2 routers in my house lol
astral haven
Then set as high as you can
80 or 160 for 5ghz
astral haven
Yup
empty wren
Just live next to your router
Nah even better solutions exist, router palm surgery
latent mural
the only things that are connected to my wifi is my PC and my phone
ashen spindle
does your router have an auto setting? many just detect it can can switch themselves now
ashen spindle
because I personally wouldnt want to go back to change it if it does become an issue after a while lol
latent mural
because I personally wouldnt want to go back to change it if it does become an i...
lol
Not having issues so far
astral haven
Faster connection but shorter range
latent mural
lol W
empty wren
Just do 5ghz with 80
latent mural
Faster connection but shorter range
Thanks dude, this is literally what I wanted, love you
If I'm far away I can just connect to the other one that my family members use
astral haven
Also you have it in bridge or ap mode right?
astral haven
So routers do multiple things
gusty kiln
Wouldn't a media bridge disable wifi?
astral haven
Wouldn't a media bridge disable wifi?
Quite the opposite
latent mural
Like connect the other router to my router or something like that?
astral haven
Are they a mesh?
latent mural
Mesh?
astral haven
How does internet get from one box to the other
latent mural
umm it doesnt
my mom's boyfriend pays for the other wifi router
We haven't connected them in any way
astral haven
Ah
latent mural
2 different packages
astral haven
Seems a bit of a waste but alrighty then
latent mural
lol
crimson wigeon
2 connections for double the speed!
latent mural
Naw the other one is for the family
astral haven
If they aren't bridged it's halving the speed basically...
ashen spindle
is it a second router from the same connection or do you have 2 internet connections that you pay for
latent mural
is it a second router from the same connection or do you have 2 internet connect...
2 internet connections
ashen spindle
??? why
reef patrol
astral haven
So you pay 2x the money and get 1x the speed twice
latent mural
idk how to connect the routers lol
astral haven
I'm well aware lel
latent mural
Minecraft
astral haven
Repeater the easiest way
Wouldn't work
latent mural
So you pay 2x the money and get 1x the speed twice
I didn't see a difference in speed when I moved here
astral haven
You need a serious router to do the load balancing
latent mural
I have no clue what any of that means lol
ashen spindle
the point is you could just pay for only 1 connection and have it cover everything
latent mural
Yeah I guess I could
astral haven
What you call a router is actually a router + ap + switch + firewall +DHCP/dns server
latent mural
Yeah that sounds about right
astral haven
To use 2 connections and get double the speed you need a fancy router
And the all in ones don't support that
latent mural
Ok
astral haven
If everyone is happy now, then it's all good
latent mural
Yeah everyone is happy
fair gull
And the all in ones don't support that
well
actually
unsure if it was zyxel or tplink
one made a dual wan router
(the consumer router not enterprise)
astral haven
one made a dual wan router
Dual wan with built-in Wi-Fi?
fair gull
ye i saw like 2 or 3
astral haven
Interesting
I wonder how well it works considering you need a relatively powerful system to actually use that properly
Also now that my phone has gotten the new offline text to speech recognition it's gotten a heck of a lot better
fair gull
/shrug that i cant say
astral haven
My company spends a heck of a lot of money on a hybrid cloud solution and it does not work very well...
pale sigil
My company spends a heck of a lot of money on a hybrid cloud solution and it doe...
One of my last jobs clients were the same, hated it so much....
astral haven
Our problem is that we just have too many sites to manage to use a more bespoke solution
vagrant pagoda
I mean a $20 machine with a $10 nic can do dual wan with pfsense
astral haven
Yes but how long does it take to configure
vagrant pagoda
about 5 minutes
do the stock setup
set two wans
after its done
goto gateways, group both gateways
astral haven
No no I mean including getting a full sdwan setup
Our system requires zero technician time
vagrant pagoda
you said you needed a fancy router for multiwan, or powerful
astral haven
We send the request to purchasing, we send an email to our rep and then the boxes appear at the site pre-configured
vagrant pagoda
thats all my anwser is for
but you can easily do premade vpn and routing with pfsense and deplot on site instanly
astral haven
Well pfsense is fancy
And x86 is powerful
vagrant pagoda
Well pfsense is fancy
And x86 is powerful
pfsense is not fancy
not even close
enterpise routers are way fancier
and to way more trick hardware acceration
astral haven
That is generally untrue
Most enterprise routers that are in a similar size bracket are generally significantly less fancy
Some of them don't even have web interfaces for the majority of their configuration
Very few support network storage
astral haven
they do everything in hardware
Define in hardware
vagrant pagoda
Define in hardware
not running in software code
high end 100G+ routers literaly burn routes into fpgas
astral haven
By that definition literally zero routers run in hardware
astral haven
high end 100G+ routers literaly burn routes into fpgas
Nope
FPGAs are too slow for that
They use special purpose risc cores
vagrant pagoda
Nope
FPGAs are too slow for that
yeah xilinx totally lied about netowrking being over half of thier total sales
astral haven
Often with single digit instructions
vagrant pagoda
just a fabrication
astral haven
yeah xilinx totally lied about netowrking being over half of thier total sales
Xilinx is majority special purpose accelerators not FPGAs
vagrant pagoda
Xilinx is majority special purpose accelerators not FPGAs
no they are literally fpga based networking
astral haven
They were the biggest in FPGAs and they have fpga'd everything
But they have pivoted away from that into special purpose
astral haven
no they are literally fpga based networking
They do have FPGAs as part of their systems yes