If you are holding your phone and don't change your grip on it and stick your hand in your pocket, the bottom of the phone points out
#🔌│tech
astral haven
empty wren
I just slipped it out my hands into a pocket
astral haven
But you understand what I'm saying tho right?
empty wren
Yes
astral haven
Top jacks are shirt pocket optimized
Bottom jacks are better for sweaters, hoodies, pants
empty wren
Except I never was on the ideology my phone should have the bottom pointing out hence why I never saw this as a problem
I always put in my pocket with the top up
astral haven
It's not about what you have done
It's about what's most natural
empty wren
Alright if you say so
astral haven
You at least can feel it tho right?
empty wren
I know a lot of people do it as you say
astral haven
You at least can feel it tho right?
How you have to sorta do a rotary motion
empty wren
I mean get that your grip with the phone upside down would land where you want the first time
I just want to avoid that extra rotation motion is all
And it being upside down is not a quick glance if I slightly pull it out
But look I get your point
astral haven
And it being upside down is not a quick glance if I slightly pull it out
This I don't get
empty wren
I can slightly peek it out my pocket
It being upside means I need to pull it out fully
astral haven
Oh ic
But the time and everything is upside down..?
empty wren
Wait
Can you clarify
Just trying to imagine what you mean
Like a sleeve covering it or...
astral haven
I don't have any use for my phone when locked
empty wren
Fair enough alright
astral haven
My watch handles time, music, and notifications
empty wren
Android watch?
astral haven
Garmin
empty wren
Ah a good one
empty wren
That sounds really nice
empty wren
Right
astral haven
Still 8-20x brighter than a normal smartwatch
empty wren
What chip does it run I am curious
astral haven
A really weak microcontroller basically
empty wren
Okay well good then
No idea what the hell Qualcomm made but it is a hell that was never fixed
astral haven
A slightly lower model runs " Microchip ATSAMG51, ATSAMG53 and MAX32360"
astral haven
Steam deck bed setup with ar screen and charging
empty wren
That is a ton of cables
Here I thought people wanted a portable handheld steam gateway
astral haven
That is a ton of cables
It's actually relatively compact
And for on the go you connect the glasses directly to the deck
empty wren
Nreal?
astral haven
Yep
stark bobcat
Those glasses would actually make the deck absolutely perfect for any kind of travel
Goated
astral haven
Yap
astral haven
You know it
Yea for on the go use you just yeet it straight in
All the same magnetic USB c
So as little as possible wear on the ports themselves
ashen spindle
https://youtu.be/yAfwhR6Bfr4
meh, hoped he would have more info than just basically reading the angstronomics article lol
stark bobcat
what did u expect lol it s adored tv
ashen spindle
idk dont think I ever watched a video from him so expected something new
"nvidia just cant compete in future gens unless they had chiplet plans for years which there is no indication of"
uhhh pretty sure the first big mcm gpu patent came from nvidia some years ago before zen even lol
stark bobcat
I just find him soothing to listen to he was the og mlid with a little more competency
reef patrol
Yea for on the go use you just yeet it straight in
Ah yes - The rare gilded Deck.
ashen spindle
sounds accurate
checked out a mlid video to confirm something yesterday
turns out he did indeed say the 10 core is likely coming before it was found to be an easy fake lol
meanwhile techdeals on twitter is back to telling people they need more cores based on checks notes taskmanager utilization numbers on his laptop
idk why people think they are helping people when arguing against what literally any other person says
tropic nacelle
People just need to stop giving MLID air time, the guy just copies any Twitter rumour and makes up shit.
He's like a broken clock, right twice a day but mostly wrong all the time and just sometimes it happens to be correct.
His "content" is really crap I don't get the appeal, sometimes he does interviews but the rest of his stuff is just dire.
It's like me just coming out saying RDNA3 is 20x more performance than RDNA2. Source : trust me bro
crimson wigeon
Oh shit it is?! Time to make rip Nvidia vids!!
pale sigil
Yea for on the go use you just yeet it straight in
The hell is that
wheat plume
The hell is that
The nreal air AR glasses
They let you use them as an external display and see your game and everything thing else
pale sigil
They even any good
wheat plume
Apparently yes
The only issue is that you can't charge the deck while using them ;_; cause deck HAS ONLY ONE USB C PORT -.-
pale sigil
The only issue is that you can't charge the deck while using them ;_; cause deck...
Can't you use a splitter
wheat plume
I guess
Does the game know if it's being played using proton?
Or does it just detect the system as being Windows?
stark bobcat
Look up what a comparability layer is ig
ashen spindle
you mean compatibility probably
stark bobcat
Yeah auto correct+lack of sleep
ashen spindle
anyway, answer is depends how hard it's looking
wheat plume
In terms of Distance
That game has a custom music option on Windows to play your own music while in a level
And I have that option on Deck when playing through Proton
But it doesn't work ... So I guess it thinks it's on Windows but when it tries to use custom features it stops working?
ashen spindle
could be
wheat plume
Funny thing is....it automatically fills in the default Music folder path
/home/deck/Music
Maybe it doesn't have permission to play from there?
median bone
Is this 100% sure this will not change ? The shipping date
ashen spindle
nothing is 100% sure
but it is the current estimate, that's why it's called estimated delivery
reef patrol
Is this 100% sure this will not change ? The shipping date
We've added a small buffer to account for minor delays - But yes. The estimate can change if something happens we can't work around without spending time.
ashen spindle
Twitter
halcyon moss
12th gen and 13th gen do not have avx 512 right?
ashen spindle
physically they do, practically they dont
astral haven
Can't you use a splitter
Currently the only option is to use 2 adapters like I showed in the earlier message
One that gets video out of the deck and power into the deck then another to get power and video into the glasses
pale sigil
Any good?
ashen spindle
12th gen and 13th gen do not have avx 512 right?
I guess technically some older 12th gen parts and fitting bios can still use 512 if you disable e cores and dont update bios
halcyon moss
that doesnt seem worthwhile
ashen spindle
14th gen also likely will lack it
crimson wigeon
y tho
ashen spindle
bc e-waste cores are still on it
crimson wigeon
y tho, couldn't it just like automagically send all those fancy AVX512 instructions to the p cores
vagrant pagoda
Idk why Intel is so hard into ecores
People have been down clocking and under volting p cores and they do very well
vagrant pagoda
y tho, couldn't it just like automagically send all those fancy AVX512 instructi...
No os support for that
And the fact Intel disabled it kind of means MS told them to pound sand
crimson wigeon
Then encourage support for that
ashen spindle
my understanding is that if they move a thread to e cores and that thread executes an avx512 instructions that would break stuff since it cant move just the instruction to a p core
as for why ecores, laptop and cinebench scores lmfao
vagrant pagoda
my understanding is that if they move a thread to e cores and that thread execut...
In theory it could be scheduled to run only on P cores
Like they already do for numa stuff
But predicting what instructions it's going to run is complex
ashen spindle
yeah but then you need to know the code could call avx512 ahead of time and if you do that the e cores can never do what they should do
vagrant pagoda
yeah but then you need to know the code could call avx512 ahead of time and if y...
Exactly
vagrant pagoda
as for why ecores, laptop and cinebench scores lmfao
Ah yes all the things zen4 is better at
crimson wigeon
Or don't do magic and just have a special magic flag the compilers set when they emit those instructions so the system knows ahead of time
vagrant pagoda
You already do that
crimson wigeon
Or make those ecores support that shit
ashen spindle
still wouldnt make it work the way they want to, with background task moved to e cores, if a background render needs avx512 then it moves your primary task away and you lose all the benefit of having e cores doing background tasks
vagrant pagoda
But then that entire program would only run on p cores
crimson wigeon
Either way just disabling it seems like a real stupid thing to do
vagrant pagoda
still wouldnt make it work the way they want to, with background task moved to e...
If something could benefit from avx512, it's going to use less power on a p core with avx512 than on an e core without.
Axv512 uplift is real
ashen spindle
yeah but that still means if you have something run on p cores that might have to move to e cores while being the main thing you do, that wont be smooth
vagrant pagoda
Yeah
But you have to check for avx512 support before running it
So just add a tag to the thread
Then the scheduler will know ahead of time
ashen spindle
then there is the thing that mixed marketing was a thing, some slides said you can use it if you disable e cores, then it was removed in bios, then back again, then fused off in newer chips, so intel themselves cant agree on what to do with it
eyyy we made it, the 10ghz barrier is reached (not really) https://videocardz.com/press-release/g-skill-showcases-ddr5-10000-memory-on-asus-z790-rog-maximus-apex-with-core-i9-13900k-cpu
vagrant pagoda
eyyy we made it, the 10ghz barrier is reached (not really) https://videocardz.co...
5
ashen spindle
I know
vagrant pagoda
Also record is like 7.2
No it was already 10
Hicookie did 10022 MT/s
That was ln2
On air is crazy
astral haven
If something could benefit from avx512, it's going to use less power on a p core...
Energy not power
It will use more power but it will do it for a very short period of time
vagrant pagoda
Really
Define:power : the time-rate of doing work, measured in watts or less frequently horsepower.
Define: Energy: power derived from the utilization of physical or chemical resources, especially to provide light and heat or to work machines.
synonyms: power
They are the same thing lol
vagrant pagoda
based on the phoronix tests zen4 does not draw more power if you use avx512
I'm talking Intel p with 512 and e without doing the same math
ashen spindle
yeah same powerdraw but shorter time to complete means it's more efficent on it to use avx512, I agree
astral haven
They are the same thing lol
You obviously aren't very technically inclined
The si unit for power is watts which is calculated by joules/second
The si unit for energy is joules which is watts *seconds
vagrant pagoda
Yep wonder if the 8000 kit even dose linpack
ashen spindle
sounds like something usefull for really bad connection or if you have large collections
likely not for streaming or usualy music consumption but cool stuff anyway
empty wren
thick elk
Also comparing it to mp3 is kind of bad as mp3 is an ancient format that is not terribly efficient especially not for speech
vocal cipher
https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2022/11/metas-ai-powered-audio-co...
or recording audio all the time from all around the world and sending it to the cloud
ashen spindle
it's also compared to opus and such on their site
ashen spindle
ew
thick elk
got to love the storage specs
empty wren
It is fine could be a lot better though, my prebuilt was the same
thick elk
Also 7th gen intel quad core
empty wren
Yeah that is outdated by now
astral haven
https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2022/11/metas-ai-powered-audio-co...
Satin already exists and it's something like 20x-30x better than mp3
cursive summit
https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2022/11/metas-ai-powered-audio-co...
Why are we compressing stuff even more
The more you compress stuff, the worse it sounds
ashen spindle
thats not how it works
cursive summit
In some cases, it is
ashen spindle
yes but not by default
cursive summit
I really can't imagine force compressing files and it not affecting the quality of them
ashen spindle
lossy compression that needs less space can make it sound better over a bad connection that would drop more info otherwise
you can trade size for decoding speed so smaller files result in the same for using more power to decode it, there are tradeoffs
astral haven
I really can't imagine force compressing files and it not affecting the quality ...
nice sounding audio is alot better than just not having the audio
satin is capable of wideband audio at 12kbps with 50% redundancy over udp
over tcp youd only need 6kbps (but tcp overhead)
wheat plume
cursive summit
https://techcommunity.microsoft.com/t5/microsoft-teams-blog/satin-microsoft-s-la...
No clue what any of that means
astral haven
just listen to the demos
then realize that audio is running at 1/16 the data rate of a standard discord call
ashen spindle
they also compare it to more than mp3 here
https://arxiv.org/pdf/2210.13438.pdf if anyone cares for the details
fierce aspen
astral haven
the mem latency on 6900xt seems strange considering the oodles of cache
im really curious what amd is gonna bring tomorrow
cursive summit
Wtf is that design
This is... amazing?
Really unconventional
Is that a plastic case or a shroud
Where are the fans
thick elk
Maybe liquid devil aio
ashen spindle
please, just read the article that you post lol
This could be PowerColor’s first card cooled by an all-in-one solution with external radiator.
cursive summit
COULD BE
I kinda want that design to be with fans
Though it'd be bad for thermals
@thick elk You ain't wrong,
thick elk
yea retracted the comment as they have water cooled ones but not with an aio that I know about
ashen spindle
aio means all in one
cursive summit
Yes, so does that mean what I pictured
ashen spindle
yes
cursive summit
Cool, got it
astral haven
My favorite cooler design so far is still the ftw3 with shield
The bare ftw3 is uglyish but performant
2080ti ftw3
That or the r9 nano silver
cursive summit
I love the r9 nano
ashen spindle
I'm looking forward to how the sapphire cards will look like
cursive summit
I wish it had an RDNA2/RDNA3 resurrection though
RX RDNA3 Nano or something like that
Although I dunno how feasible it is nowadays to stuff all those components in a tiny package
ashen spindle
I'm placing big eyes on a nitro/toxic navi31 👀
gusty kiln
such a classy looking card
ashen spindle
https://pimax.com/ 4 hours till pimax event btw
frozen ingot
member when you could get a high-end gaming card in a single slot config
now its like 4 slots please and oh and your own coal power plant to run the goddamn thing
astral haven
member when you could get a high-end gaming card in a single slot config
define high end
gusty kiln
been debating going AIO WC for my next gpu upgrade
astral haven
if you want the same tier of experience you can basically get it with a low end card
you just cant get a 1080p monitor...
gusty kiln
too lazy
frozen ingot
7950gt and 8800gt were pretty high end in its day
astral haven
thats also not true
frozen ingot
both rocking single slot coolers
astral haven
but they were not quite capable of running games at 1080p60
frozen ingot
I mean this was 2006-2008
frozen ingot
1080p gaming was barely even a thing at the time
astral haven
if you move the target back to 720p60 or 1080p30 then youll do fine with a low end card
frozen ingot
which is why I said member when
astral haven
tho it wont be single slot bc single slot is dumb
frozen ingot
also I said high end, not highest end or top tier
astral haven
yep which is why i mentioned that the definition of high end matters
astral haven
1070 you mean lel
gusty kiln
yeah
frozen ingot
I member slapping one of these badbois on my 7900gt
that made it take up near 2 slots
empty wren
Battery nearly 0 on idle in 24s wtf
empty wren
why would that help
gusty kiln
idk seems to fix things for me sometimes
"Performing a wipe cache partition removes any temporary files that may be causing an issue with the device. All personal files and settings are not affected by this option."
empty wren
That reminds me still mad android 10 or 11 removed cache partition in settings storage subsection
final flame
https://www.techpowerup.com/review/fiio-q7-portable-desktop-class-dac-amplifier/
iirc all of of fiios dedicated dacs and amps aren't worth the money
gusty kiln
yeah, it's just that it is one of the few units out there with a dedicated switch for battery and DC power
so I can use it on the go as well as desktop use
think xduoo has something like that as well, but people have reported weird clicking issues
vagrant pagoda
quadro t1000 is a 1650 spec single slot low profile
i think inno3d even made an actual single slot 1650
yeah
1650 can do med settings at 1080p60
astral haven
and high 720p60 or 1080p30 easily
vagrant pagoda
the case is custom
gpu is buy
it has a thunder bolt m.2 adatper with a m.2 to x16 breakout
astral haven
was thinking about the enclosure yea :/
vagrant pagoda
which makes it a x16 slot
just like every motherboard
with x16 slots
that are only x4/x8 electrical
but
just for you
vagrant pagoda
it is x16 electrical so it can deliver 75w
which never made sense to me
but thats the standard
and a lot of slot powered gpus wont boot in x4/x8 slots without the sense pin
astral haven
yep its highly irritating
vagrant pagoda
which is why you need a powered x16 adopter
astral haven
be cooler if it was x16 electrical too
vagrant pagoda
my second gpu is a p600 and it wont run full power in x8
even though its only 40w max
it drops to 25w in x8
i had to get a x8 powered riser
then it runs 40w
pale sigil
TIL this was a thing https://satellitemap.space/?constellation=starlink
i think Elon is losing it
gusty kiln
dayum
pale sigil
wot
gusty kiln
over 3K 5800X3d have sold in germany
pale sigil
Because germany sold it for an insane price
ashen spindle
not it was at those sales before the price drop already
pale sigil
still meh price in other countries
gusty kiln
definitely feel like they are clearing AM4 stock
pale sigil
£ 359.99
cursive summit
Looks like the price drop is real
It was above 500 recently
Still a shit price though
pale sigil
it has been like 330 euros all week tho
astral haven
Still a shit price though
remove tax and then recalculate
If its a good price then its the fault of your country lel
cursive summit
remove tax and then recalculate
If its a good price then its the fault of your c...
That is true
astral haven
That is true
gotta remember that in the us the tax is not included in the list price
ashen spindle
you want a new cpu at the same time as wanting to save energy by making the gpu so slow its a gpu bottleneck
also it just got reduced so give it some time for retailers to move it down further
pale sigil
@ashen spindlewhats the store tho
the one you guys use thats not amazon or mindfactory
ashen spindle
what store
gusty kiln
you mean directly from AMD?
gusty kiln
adorama?
astral haven
alza?
pale sigil
its pissing me off now
shadow minnow
<@590931863951114260> can i sent a cpu to yours
I mean sure if it won’t be issue with customs bringing it to uk xD
Which I am not sure about
pale sigil
just dont keep the box
shadow minnow
But you won’t get it until early January
pale sigil
remove the cpu from the box and keep in the cpu plastic thing
shadow minnow
That should hopefully be alright
Well dm, shouldn’t be a problem at all.
Though I guess with Woot sources you may not need me to tell you my address 
ashen spindle
can you not just buy from https://www.amd.com/en/direct-buy
pale sigil
alternate
pale sigil
can you not just buy from https://www.amd.com/en/direct-buy
costs a fuck ton more
ans is out of stock
shadow minnow
Out of stock + 466£
pale sigil
literally costs nearly double
ashen spindle
so wait for it to be reduced there..
shadow minnow
Actually may be more than double
ashen spindle
they wont make it cheaper in the eu and NA but not uk...
shadow minnow
Well with how unstable UK economy is rn
pale sigil
cheapest i can find is 350 in the UK
shadow minnow
Well with how unstable UK economy is rn
Which is probably related to the stability of their government
pale sigil
shadow minnow
Or well our government for me too rn 
shadow minnow
370€? That’s not such a good price
cursive summit
https://www.alternate.de/
That shop must have been named after mindfactory became number 1 european retailer for PC parts
cursive summit
We are the ALTERNATE option to mindfactory
pale sigil
if we convert euros to pounds
cursive summit
So, buy from us, sometimes
shadow minnow
Well 370€ is also the price for a few slovak retailers
Which would probably be cheaper shipping
ashen spindle
how is it bad when its msrp
shadow minnow
365€ with free shipping
pale sigil
it was 330 the other day when you abandoned us
shadow minnow
Should have ordered it without asking xD
cursive summit
330?
shadow minnow
it was 330 the other day when you abandoned us <:pepecry:643973235188170753>
I do apologize for abandoning, but in case I am away and it’s a good price again just email me or write through messenger
shadow minnow
365 for me
ashen spindle
dont think that would've went through for that at the time anyway
and again, wait for CES when zen4 v cache comes and it gets even cheaper...
gusty kiln
pale sigil
and again, wait for CES when zen4 v cache comes and it gets even cheaper...
holding that on you
But selling my 5600x would prob be shit at that point
so i cant recoup much
ashen spindle
doubt the price will fall for second hadn much
shadow minnow
Well anyways I should be able to import it unless customs at airport aren’t happy
I mean keyboard in original box wasn’t an issue
pale sigil
just say its a bomb and has no value
shadow minnow
Sure that would work
pale sigil
as long as items are out of the box they wont usually ask
or show any indication you use it
they only seem to care for tech like laptops/cameras etc
shadow minnow
I mean they want you to take it out but they don’t actually care
I carry a laptop with me every time
Never was an issue
Or well once I forgot to take it out of my bag
Then it was an issue
Kinda
They just had to scan the entire bag
But never asked to open it or sth
pale sigil
i meant
they care for people who buy them and bring them back, a lot of people are stupid and keep them in boxes and they will think you are importing goods
wheat plume
wait a sec....the USB ports on the Deck Dock are 2.0???
They said they are 3.1 in the marketing
wheat plume
oh, it reports different depending on what the device plugged in uses??
astral haven
try it?
astral haven
phone?
wheat plume
oh
astral haven
i mean idk what phone you have
wheat plume
oh
im dumb
wait no...
the USB Switch I have also claims to be USB 3.1 or 3.X something
so the USB Switch is the bottom one
astral haven
SABRENT USB C Hub,9 in 1 to HDMI 2.0 https://a.co/j7COdj6
This is the deck dock I'm using
Detachable cable and $40
wheat plume
This looks neat for a laptop...but the offical Dock suits my needs really well, cause I want two display ports cause i have 2 screens :P
this would be handy for a laptop though perhaps idk or a laptop being used a server or whatever
astral haven
the deck dock does both screens simultaneously?
wheat plume
mst?
astral haven
you can only send 1 displayport signal over 1 usb c cable
wheat plume
its got HDMI and DisplayPort on it
astral haven
so you need an active converter chip to have multiple at the same time
wheat plume
its even handling 165Hz over HDMI currently
astral haven
its got HDMI and DisplayPort on it
the hdmi is using a displayport to hdmi adapter
wheat plume
and 75Hz over DP
wheat plume
the hdmi is using a displayport to hdmi adapter
well, whatever is going in, both of my screens work fine at once
wheat plume
vagrant pagoda
Lol
wheat plume
the hdmi is using a displayport to hdmi adapter
oh, this is why it says the Omen is connected with DP
astral haven
yep
wheat plume
cause its connected with HDMI
aha
its taken 40 minutes, the entire length of this video, to transfer God Of War from my HDD
wheat plume
replaced the SSD?
astral haven
yap
wheat plume
id do it, but i dont really have many games on it at once anyway
also, im scared to take things apart
Unplugging the battery looks really fragile and easy to break the cable
wheat plume
oh really?
astral haven
yap, you do just want to avoid touching anything while inside
pull the ssd by the shielding for example
the only thing that was annoying was the screws
alot of different types, and several tiny ones
wheat plume
TIL plasma desktop's volume popup appears on whatever screen the cursor is currently on :')
astral haven
think thats also default behaviour in every single other os...
astral haven
neither windows 10 or 11 do?
astral haven
strange
cursive summit
Weird, how come AMD's presentation didn't get leaked early
I guess we'll find out about what team red's cooking pretty soon
astral haven
early presentation leaks didnt used to happen every single time lel
cursive summit
I thought VR goggles cost more than that to make
How come most are pricing them around 400-500$
cursive summit
How deep a penetration?
empty wren
I thought VR goggles cost more than that to make
That seems like a lot compared to the ps5
vagrant pagoda
How deep a penetration?
as deep as $550 get can you 😉
cursive summit
That seems like a lot compared to the ps5
Which is priced like, 150$ higher?
cursive summit
as deep as $550 get can you 😉
empty wren
Which is priced like, 150$ higher?
So you are comparing it to scalped prices
cursive summit
Isn't that literally the new official prices
empty wren
Really
cursive summit
Okay it's not that bad
Europe
PS5 with Ultra HD Blu-ray disc drive – €549.99
PS5 Digital Edition – €449.99
Wow
empty wren
Ah
cursive summit
Oh.. they are not 549 euros from official retailers
Wow almost like Playstation is in the shit for not making enough of them
Secondhand market is fine though, I can still get a PS5 for like 550
empty wren
Which is retail new pricing
cursive summit
Such is the state of market
At least series X are market price
But fuck playstation anyways
cursive summit
The worse console has more demand
empty wren
cursive summit
Sony nailed the marketing
empty wren
How is it worse
cursive summit
It's literally worse
empty wren
If you mean cooling wise fine
cursive summit
All they have is exclusives going for them
Hardware wise, it's worse
SaaS wise, it's worse
empty wren
But the fact they let you use any nvme sad if it is supported is grear
Like I would love to see Microsoft do that
cursive summit
It's still the damn games that they are making exclusive that's selling them the consoles
Which is funny af
empty wren
1tb ain't enough
empty wren
Which is funny af
Their exclusives are not all that good
Last of us 2 feels like what walking dead game did
empty wren
Okay fair enough
cursive summit
Nearly all of their exclusives are major hits
cursive summit
Doesn't mean they are not major console sellers
empty wren
Right
vivid vine
If the exclusives is why they have market share then do exclusives not sell well?
empty wren
They do
vivid vine
People buy the console all there friends got, point blank period
cursive summit
They sell all too well
empty wren
Well some people buy pc
vivid vine
Exlusives don't sell consoles
cursive summit
But Sony's cracked the code at least
empty wren
And console from playstation
cursive summit
Instead of permanent exclusives at least they realized that PC market is profitable
astral haven
Exlusives don't sell consoles
people keep making that argument and its been wrong every time so far, whats changed...
cursive summit
So they'll do PC releases after a year or two
vivid vine
None of the PS exlusives in the past like 5 years have sold over 20 mill copies but they claim to have a 140 million player base on PS4
Numbers dont add up
cursive summit
But yeah if Sony had no exclusives, they wouldn't have that good of a market share
Xbox continues to develop the better software and hardware
empty wren
None of the PS exlusives in the past like 5 years have sold over 20 mill copies ...
People play other games
Lol
astral haven
None of the PS exlusives in the past like 5 years have sold over 20 mill copies ...
people dont buy every exclusive
they just buy the console that has their favorite exclusive
and that favorite exclusive
empty wren
Supposely dual sense is good and a game like call of duty supports it
empty wren
So some people would play station for that better controller
empty wren
They buy the console that has there favorites friends***
Typically yes
Because their friends like playstation too
astral haven
empty wren
I fucking hate that Bloodborne is stuck as an exclusive
Wait for emulator
I guess
¯_(ツ)_/¯
cursive summit
That'll happen soon to be fair
PS4 and PS5 are close to being cracked up
Can't wait for homebrew
astral haven
define close lel
empty wren
That is funny ps5 is quite new
astral haven
i dont know why you think that, but i suspect the post tpm consoles are gonna be aloooooooot harder to crack...
at least compared to the pre tpm ones
cursive summit
I mean that's funny, cause PS5 has that really weird crack already released
Which meant that people can already semi-pirate stuff
Not fully homebrew, but a step in the right direction
I forgot what the exploit's called
chrome estuary
well not really. You can't execute unsigned code yet but we can access debug settings and a few other basic features
cursive summit
And it made P.T playable again
astral haven
jailbreak isnt cracked
cursive summit
Praise the gods
astral haven
its 1 thing to run games on the ps5
its absolutely another thing to run ps5 games on another device
empty wren
well not really. You can't execute unsigned code yet but we can access debug set...
And Xbox has that available via developer account🤷♂️
chrome estuary
fair
i own a PS5 but it's staying unmodded since i plan to use it to play games online here and there
and it was super difficult to get
vivid vine
vagrant pagoda
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_WcegymCb7w
tec?
empty wren
its 1 thing to run games on the ps5
its absolutely another thing to run ps5 game...
Just build a ps5 into pc case and bam you got a ps5 PC lol
chrome estuary
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_WcegymCb7w
stable 6.2 or "Look guys! we hit 6.2 before it crashed!" ?
vivid vine
@vagrant pagoda yess, guess he never got around to testing it with 12th Gen when they sent it out
astral haven
stable 6.2 or "Look guys! we hit 6.2 before it crashed!" ?
stable 6.2
vivid vine
@chrome estuary seems to be, but $500 for a dam CPU Block is a little insane
astral haven
but its boost stable not steady state stable
chrome estuary
alright.
chrome estuary
btw @astral haven how's the nreal air? as I said, i really want a pair but keep procrastinating it.
astral haven
btw <@126850798666645504> how's the nreal air? as I said, i really want a pair b...
its insanely awesome
chrome estuary
do you need prescription lenses by chance?
astral haven
i do not
chrome estuary
damn
astral haven
near or far?
chrome estuary
nearsighted. like 20/100ish iirc?
moderately bad but using stuff like VR is pretty much a no-go without prescription lenses
chrome estuary
gah fuck. i wonder if i could get my insurance to cover it since we get one pair of glasses a year.
astral haven
100 for custom lenses, then 80 for a usb c combiner and a usb c dock for 40
astral haven
if you intend to ever use it while charging you need a box that inputs video, power, and usb and combines them into a type c port
chrome estuary
i have a USB-C hub that does that.
vagrant pagoda
i have a USB-C hub that does that.
udsb hub wont route video
chrome estuary
ah shit that's right
astral haven
only one i know of is the wacom link doodad
astral haven
only one i know of is the wacom link doodad
which while it takes 20 seconds to initialize, otherwise works great
astral haven
on deck?
at least 3 minutes kek
nah i used it for like half an hour and it seems to drain the same speed as with the internal display
wheat plume
can get 4:30 hours on Dishonored
chrome estuary
My issue is the only devices i have that output video over USB-C is probably my phone, m1 macbook, and maybe my laptop which has TB4
astral haven
yap
chrome estuary
70 dollerydoos before tax.
so it can't just be used directly over USB-C to a device besides a phone (i remember that from some videos i saw) without a doodad like that?
or is that to plug it into a GPU or some fanciness?
astral haven
any device that has 1 usb c port and has a battery wont be able to charge with the nreal attached
this allows you to charge and nreal at the same time
chrome estuary
oh my god for some reason i was asking about the battery life of the glasses
i just realized or maybe remembered they draw power from the device.
chrome estuary
okay so ignore my silliness from earlier.
have you only gamed on it or have you tried anything like a movie?
astral haven
mostly just watched movies
its awesome for movies
ive been using it with dex on my phone and its also super awesome for that
its just all around an excellent experience if you know what to expect
it is not vr
it is not ar
it is a $400 200 inch personal oled tv with a subpixel layout issue
chrome estuary
yeah i know that. Honestly something i'd like to see is like a HUD style app that displays something like the time and weather or something in the corner of the view
astral haven
its not reaaaally bright enough for daylight use
astral haven
it would work for a hud tho
you could probably set something up using dex, a black background, and widgets
be aware tho
it is oled
and its a very very small and particularly temperature destructive oled
as in if it hits 70c it is destroyed
chrome estuary
i'd really hope i never get near 70c but i get it, don't leave it in a car or something.
astral haven
well no
youd have to be actually using it for it to get that hot unless you put it in an oven or something
the point is tho its more sensitive than normal oleds
burnin is likely tho they havent been around long enough for that yet
chrome estuary
alright
astral haven
oh also the wacom box gets very very hot
astral haven
yea
what is that little adapter there??
astral haven
have they confirmed it works?
astral haven
including audio?
chrome estuary
They don't say it doesn't?
other people have tried it but i'm not seeing anyone not talk about audio not working
astral haven
siig says no touchscreen support which means no usb
and no usb means no audio
bc the audio on the linkreal is via usb not via the display connection
chrome estuary
i was gonna say i'd probably stil with the wacom for now anyway but that seals it too
astral haven
wish i had known about that adapter tho
would absolutely have considered it
chrome estuary
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ELXHwCpegbE I don't know much about this, it was just in the reddit thread
idle wigeon
astral haven
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ELXHwCpegbE I don't know much about this, it was...
interestinger
chrome estuary
109$ but if you can get it all in one dongle with just a power cable?
astral haven
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ELXHwCpegbE I don't know much about this, it was...
that doesnt have a very long cable tho
i wanted to use the deck in bed with the cable running off to the side to my adapters
chrome estuary
fair enough
i wonder if a USB-C to USB-C extension cable would work with it though
chrome estuary
yeah fair enough
astral haven
oh that means you missed the posts
chrome estuary
uh yeah probably
i saw your pictures i think but was at work or busy or something when you sent them
astral haven
Steam deck bed setup with ar screen and charging
havin fun on da deck
chrome estuary
so i'll probably get the nreal after my tax return. I'll probably go with the dock i showed since that'll be perfect for me
astral haven
ye and itll probably have all features
tho wont be able to use it with a desktop
chrome estuary
yeah that'd suck. I've got a few months to think about it and might say fuck it and get both unless a better solution comes up.
astral haven
oh also reminder: set the steam deck output to safe resolution mode, as many games are unhappy when launching with the nreal
chrome estuary
i don't exactly own a deck. and i really didn't like it
astral haven
it gets stuck in like a 340x200 res mode and nothing is useable
chrome estuary
ouch
astral haven
ya
also again its not 90hz
90hz is not possible
no way no how
i could get it running at 85hz with a manual oc, but it was getting uncomfortably hot very quickly
chrome estuary
oh just with the deck or the glasses in general?
astral haven
glasses in general
chrome estuary
ah alright
astral haven
tried using turing usb c port, laptop thunderbolt port, neither showed above 60 as an option
manual oc to 72hz (the ar mode refresh rate) worked flawlessly, but i didnt use 85 long enough to check for frame skipping as it got too hot
chrome estuary
"TL:DR Samsung Dex, no desktop icons, transparent wallpaper, any app on screen while main line of sight clear." That apparently allows some form of hud style thing.
chrome estuary
yeah the guy in the post mentions that too.
chrome estuary
i own a Z Fold 4
astral haven
well then there you go
chrome estuary
yup
chrome estuary
Nice
astral haven
on my ar glasses
astral haven
dex is like a desktop
astral haven
dex is software
empty wren
Just trying to understand the arrangement of discord and a movie
astral haven
glasses is hardware where dex appears
astral haven
think of it like dual screens
empty wren
Okay that makes more sense now
astral haven
ar glasses have video
empty wren
Right
astral haven
phone screen has discord
astral haven
you dont generally think about multimonitor setups on phone lmao
empty wren
I mean I wish it was more abundant
Dex is probably gonna be the best implementation of it
Then probably crossover
Then probably what Google introduced
As far as mobile goes
astral haven
Dex hs several features even macos is missing lmao
astral haven
You can turn off mouse accel
And you get window snapping
empty wren
Interesting
astral haven
These are extremely basic features lmao
empty wren
Yeah windows has those definitely do not really think about that
astral haven
Macos doesn't and it irritated me so much that I spent an hour researching how to get mouse accel off without installing 3rd party software
Managed to do it tho
Confident my boss wouldn't be happy about how I'm wasting my time but so be it
empty wren
I mean to be fair it probably impedes your work
astral haven
It doesn't, we spend a max of 2 minutes a month using the macs
We literally only use them to wipe phones
And that takes 10 seconds per phone
(of interacting with the Mac)
empty wren
Oh okay
astral haven
I've spent more time update wrangling them than actually using them
empty wren
I see
empty wren
What is dat
frozen ingot
audiophool snakeoil garbage
empty wren
Looks like it got ethernwt
frozen ingot
it literally is a d-link ethernet switch "modified to sound better"
empty wren
I see
frozen ingot
yes, a device dealing with exclusively digital signals is modified to make analog sound better
empty wren
👁️👄👁️
frozen ingot
I want to hyperventilate into a pillow over fraud shit like this
frozen ingot
sometimes I wish I didn't have a conscience so I also could make money of off gullible idiots like these jackasses are
empty wren
Oh that parts easy
Get so desperate that you care only for money
To get so desperate
Win the lottery onxe
frozen ingot
it would be so easy to make something like this
buy a d-link switch for like $30, take it apart and put some resin blobs here and there to cover your imaginary "trade secret modifications" which is actually doing nothing at all, write a description full of buzzwords and bogus claims
sell for $600
and there will always be a couple hundred suckers who buys it and tirelessly defends it claiming they "immediately heard a huge difference"
empty wren
Or you could just buy cheap gloves off AliExpress in bulk
And sell them for $50 with a good conscience
frozen ingot
special audiophile gloves, pressing play on your sound system wearing these will improve clarity by 68% proven in lab tests
empty wren
and there will always be a couple hundred suckers who buys it and tirelessly def...
Only issue is you might need to disappear
empty wren
special audiophile gloves, pressing play on your sound system wearing these will...
Maybe if you are in a sound controlled room
That would not sound like bull
frozen ingot
special sound dampened chamber i.e. a well furnished living room
frozen ingot
Or you could just buy cheap gloves off AliExpress in bulk
I've actually thought of doing a big bulk order of plastic drinking straws off aliexpress because they're "banned" here
maybe I could make a good profit reselling them, tbh I don't think its illegal to do unless you're a registered business
empty wren
Inv4 customs open it
You could just get a 3d printer
And make your own straws honestly
frozen ingot
am pretty sure there's some loophole like that that allows you to buy and use them for private purposes
but you can't sell them in quantities as a business owner anymore
like how you gonna ban plastic in itself
shaped in a particular way
is 3d printer plastics really food safe though
wheat plume
I hate trying to look up wireless headphones
AND ALL THE FUCKING RESULTS ARE EARBUDS
empty wren
is 3d printer plastics really food safe though
One print with stainless steel nozzles
Could use pet
Same plastic used for bottles
Or if you do not trust the spools
You could unwind bottles and make your own plastic filament
As far as plastics as a whole being good safe probably not, like we got a ton a ton of plastics in our bodies already
frozen ingot
I mean I guess, seems like a lot of effort buying and learning 3D printing though when you can get like 1000 straws off aliexpress for $2 a pack or something
empty wren
Fair enough
frozen ingot
that being said I would like to fuck around with a 3D printer sometime
empty wren
They are pretty cool
And very soon there will be a lot more low cost have high speed optiond
They are already getting to the point of low maintenance
frozen ingot
yup cost is the main thing that's kept me away, that and I'm not really that good with modeling/design softwares
anything can be learnt I suppose
empty wren
Right fair enough yeah modeling an important part
Some people literally just go on websites to print stuff they did not make which is fine as well
But someone can do a lot more if they can model
frozen ingot
yeah I'd probably go about downloading other peoples stuff and printing it, at least to use as references and learn how to make things by modifying those
empty wren
The good thing is if you ever want to learn about modeling
Tons of information
Especially on youtubr
wheat plume
Just found out my friend is using on ear headphones......
I feel so sorry for him ;_;
Over ears or nothing
astral haven
Over ears or nothing
There are a number that sound actually fantastic for cheaper than you can get anything ok overear
wheat plume
Yeh
But they are uncomfortable as all hell combined
astral haven
Depends
You need to get the really really light ones and do a bit of headband flexing, then it's gonna be great
wheat plume
Is there a command to change wallpaper on Windows?
Like how do apps such as wallpaper engine change your wallpaper?
But then how do desktop icons and right click still work?
astral haven
They probably set the background to something transparent, then run a compositing step after windows sends it to the GPU
wheat plume
Hmmm...
near rose
anyone else have trouble with setting up gamepad imput, been looking for a solution for 3 hours and yet to find one so anything helps (edited)
vagrant pagoda
They probably set the background to something transparent, then run a compositin...
misty saffron
so cisco thought it’d be a stellar idea to brick all meraki access points in russia
set all SSIDs to *****-Sanctions and make the networks require no password
thanks, i’ll try my best to avoid all cisco products in future
crisp granite
what
the
fuck
I get it, sanctions suck balls
but you don't need to BRICK EXISTING PRODUCTS
just...don't support them within the sanctioned territory
don't sell them in sanctioned territory
all this does is make your company look like shit for when sanctions eventually lift
you've killed the future market when Putin and the Duma get fucking eaten alive by the horde of people our age, an actual democracy is established and sanctions get slowly lifted
frozen ingot
I'd bet on unicorns coming into existence or deep sea creatures surfacing and taking over the world before russia gets actual democracy tbh
crisp granite
either that or humans evolving into crabs
frozen ingot
even then they'll have a crab dictatorship disguised as a sham democracy
misty saffron
oh it’s not just about russia
i doubt you’d want to buy a product where a deranged company can brick it at any time
frozen ingot
I don't like making e-waste more than the other guy but bricking network equipment within russian borders seems reasonable to cripple their infrastructure further
misty saffron
it is not reasonable
frozen ingot
sure that's a fair point, but its kind of the norm for a lot of tech these days to get either bricked or support discontinued and thereby end up bricked further down the line
misty saffron
it literally just destroys your reputation and not much more
frozen ingot
and it doesn't really do much other than making people mutter angrily then buy a new one
frozen ingot
it literally just destroys your reputation and not much more
I mean the west stopped giving a rats ass about their reputation in russia some time ago now
misty saffron
i doubt you’d want to buy a product where a deranged company can brick it at any...
read this again
frozen ingot
I did, but I still doubt the vast majority will care
nerds will
ordinary plebs, nah
misty saffron
also:
As the conflict has continued, we’ve seen a dramatic increase in requests from Russian networks to worldwide media, reflecting a desire by ordinary Russian citizens to see world news beyond that provided within Russia.```
this is how it should be done
not “let’s brick devices because that’s surely going to accomplish something”
frozen ingot
sure I agree the people should have better access to information elsewhere
misty saffron
I did, but I still doubt the vast majority will care
cisco products are also not for the average consumer
frozen ingot
am guessing their hope is shutting down russian services will cripple the russian government, but it also has less desirable effects like this
misty saffron
those devices also weren’t officially sold in russia even
literally only used by hobbyists
stark bobcat
It seems to me like Russian government is already crippled as is
frozen ingot
such a noble cause
well this has largely been the goal with every sanction and corporate pullout
to fuck over the people and make their lives as unbearable as possible
so they'll eventually get fed up or something
am not saying its a good plan, but its kind of the plan
misty saffron
uhm.. no?
stark bobcat
It's been a while since the last revolution in a major country
frozen ingot
they've actually been pretty vocal about it
misty saffron
define “they”
frozen ingot
they want to put pressure on the russian government but also on the population
stark bobcat
Idek if in todays day and age it can happen
frozen ingot
idk they've discussed this quite a bit in media here, claiming part of the goal of the sanctions and shutdowns are targeted towards the populations quality of life
as well as nuking the economy front and back
stark bobcat
I'm not opposed to sanctions but tbh they have done a number on europes economy aswell
frozen ingot
because its kind of obvious that if the everyday russians life doesn't get shit on, its extremely unlikely they'll ever bat an eye over this clusterfuck
misty saffron
impacting the quality of life is a byproduct of nuking the economy
the vandalism you’re talking about is just unethical
astral haven
all sanctions are there to cut economic ties
2 different types of sanctions
Nescessary goods are to lessen the ability to feed the military and make people unhappy
Luxury goods are to trash the economy and destroy quality of life
frozen ingot
that's just part of the reasoning, I didn't come up with it
but a lot of the sanctioning is very much intended to make russian peoples lives suck as much as possible
not just the government and oligarchs
astral haven
But also not in a way that will actually impact any of the basics on the heirarchy of needs
misty saffron
anyways, you’re still missing the point where a company decides to brick devices just because they feel like it is not okay
frozen ingot
yeah the intent is obviously not to make people starve etc but rather take away every luxury they've gotten used to
misty saffron
it they bricked them in russia, what stops them from bricking any other device?
frozen ingot
like social media platforms, western luxury products etc
I mean, you have a point but they don't really have much of an incentive to brick it elsewhere, yet
astral haven
it they bricked them in russia, what stops them from bricking any other device?
The law
There are plenty of devices that aren't legally operatable outside of the us
misty saffron
take away social media platforms? yep, fuck unrestricted access to information
pls
frozen ingot
again, I didn't come up with these measures
misty saffron
you seem to have
astral haven
take away social media platforms? yep, fuck unrestricted access to information
WeChat isn't unrestricted access to info and is absolutely social media
misty saffron
i’m not seeing any of this
frozen ingot
am explaining their arguing behind it
misty saffron
WeChat isn't unrestricted access to info and is absolutely social media
well we are talking about western social media i’d assume
where everyone is hard on freedom of speech
(meaning has a boner)
stark bobcat
Mostly the us tbh
misty saffron
again, refer to what cloudflare has stated
stark bobcat
Here in Germany there are plenty of restrictions on free speech which I am fine with
misty saffron
if anyone could actually destroy quality of life in russia, it would be cloudflare
except they actually understand it’s idiotic
astral haven
Look @misty saffron
It's machiavellian at best
And it's absolutely immoral to brick devices
But it's not unethical if the outcome is better lives of people
crisp granite
..that didn't really better lives
misty saffron
yeah i don’t entirely understand how bricking hobbyist devices benefits anyone
crisp granite
you know what would?
companies not being reactionary shitbags in overpaid suits
yeah, russophobia is cool and all
but...have you considered that the ruskies haven't consented to anything their "government" has done over the past...30? years?
astral haven
yeah i don’t entirely understand how bricking hobbyist devices benefits anyone
It harms little, and it drives change
crisp granite
wouldn't say it's meaningful