🔌│tech

[astral haven]

The vram itself is under a watt

[pale sigil]

There's no fair or equal rate system here

Ever have any bad credit you're punished for it, we can't even pay monthly if we wanted to.

We have to manually add to the meter like topping up a phone

[astral haven]

Why not desktop steam deck?

[pale sigil]

I've thought about it for a long time.

I just need to buy a new dock.

[vagrant pagoda]

https://youtu.be/HqbYW188UrE

[ashen spindle]

no option to go fixed price for electricity?

[pale sigil]

Not for my mum no.

[astral haven]

In aware
He's talking about p0 power

[pale sigil]

Bad credit past = shafted even when you fix it

[ashen spindle]

wait your electricity company looks at your credit rating????

[pale sigil]

Yes

Most places do

[ashen spindle]

bruh what is going on over there on the island

[pale sigil]

Any monthly services uses credit rating

Or well most

[crisp granite]

wow the UK is just cursed

[pale sigil]

Phone, TV, internet, Gas, electric, finance etc

Utilities

[sharp badger]

wow 😅

[ashen spindle]

wtf

[pale sigil]

You won't get told no but your rates will be poo for utilities

[ashen spindle]

financing sure makes sense, the rest? wtf

[crisp granite]

financing makes perfect sense
you're a higher risk investment to any bank

[vagrant pagoda]

That's illegal in my state in us

[crisp granite]

HOW THE FUCK DOES CREDIT IMPACT YOUR GAS BILL?

[vagrant pagoda]

Amazing it's legal in UK

I guess here they just make you give a deposit if you have bad/no credit

[crisp granite]

here it's deposit/down being higher for poor credit, as well as rates

if it's really bad and there's just no conceivable way you could repay, they say no

[vagrant pagoda]

How is it costing more for bad credit even legal

[crisp granite]

the banks giving out loans need more money for it to be worthwhile to take on the risk

[vagrant pagoda]

You're every customer pays the same scale

[crisp granite]

the alternative is just repossessing ANYTHING that the defaulting creditor has

[vagrant pagoda]

So for residential the only thing that can affect your bill is how much power do you use because of the more you use the more it costs

[crisp granite]

same with water, and heating

[vagrant pagoda]

What bank and what loan

[crisp granite]

because fuck HOAs

[vagrant pagoda]

It's just debt not a loan

[crisp granite]

uh huh
and they look at your history of taking on debt to determine how much they want to charge for the risk

[pale sigil]

That's a mix of credit rating and that

[vagrant pagoda]

you dont even have to give your credit

you can be a cash customer and give a deposit

[pale sigil]

My sister almost lost her mortgage because it showed on her record she requested a previous credit dip be removed because it was wrong and paid for, but the request itself shows on her record.

So the bank asked why there was a request.

[vagrant pagoda]

thats normal loan shit

[pale sigil]

Almost lost the whole mortgage, she had to explain a dentist double charged her £34 that put her into overdraft lol

[pale sigil]

Yes but I'm saying our credit rating system even banks use.

[vagrant pagoda]

that is fine

how dose it make your power cost more is the odd thing

[ashen spindle]

credit scores suck and all but those things are normal, I just am still flabbergasted that they can legally make you pay more for basic need utilities based on that

[pale sigil]

Simple, like how hou pay for texts per text and minutes Vs just being on a contract.

[chrome estuary]

What

no

[pale sigil]

We get the shit rates, people who have fixed contracts get good rates.

[chrome estuary]

what the fuck uk

[ashen spindle]

ok but that again is normal and not related to credit scores

[pale sigil]

There's multiple rates even for higher rating

[ashen spindle]

fixed contracts and rates should be the same for literally everyone

[pale sigil]

Well they aren't

[ashen spindle]

but I did ask another British person I know and it appears to be accurate

did not believe it because that does just not sound believable

[pale sigil]

https://www.britishgas.co.uk/energy/gas-and-electricity.html

[chrome estuary]

my electric bill is high because the electric company i use is a bunch of assholes, and they're the one that serves my area and i live in the middle of fuckin nowhere.

not because my credit score.

[pale sigil]

Results for my post code

[chrome estuary]

okay what's your average bill per month?

[ashen spindle]

so bad credit scores means you could not get the best option there? or would the prices be higher then just in general?

[pale sigil]

Basically can't get the best options here, we are forced onto none fixed rate

[pale sigil]

Give me a min

[ashen spindle]

so you could not select those at 33.48 per kWh? or would it offer a better one if you had better credit rating?

[pale sigil]

Essentially this is just an estimate, you have to ring up and they'll look at your credit history irrc

[ashen spindle]

yeah that just sounds illegal here tf

[chrome estuary]

yea

[pale sigil]

Let's just say we went from 300+ down to 200+

Last month's bill was 205 and previous 220

£

[chrome estuary]

mine on average is about 200-300$/m depending on the time of year and amount of electricity. Winter and Summer are more expensive because y'know... AC and Heating.

[pale sigil]

Tis clear my pc uses to much since we dropped a lot, peak was 370 I'm reading but that's probably when we started worrying

Imagine having ac

[chrome estuary]

it gets up to like 33C with a humidity of ridiculous during the summer where i live on average

not to mention the near 40 with a 90% humidity

[pale sigil]

But ye ever since I stopped using my computer all the time our bills dropped a lot

[chrome estuary]

tbh it's only like 20ish right now outside and i've got the AC on cause i'm fat and i like to be cool

i'd open a window but the fucking thing doesn't open

[pale sigil]

It's a nice 5c here while pissing it down

Perfect weather to snuggle in bed.

[chrome estuary]

ngl, i'd love that weather

I'm sure if i turned my PC off when i went to work it'd help a lot.

but dad also stays at home 24/7 and we have two deep freezers.

one we could really stop using if we'd bother to empty it

[pale sigil]

I used to run my pc and not care, never ever used the sleep function either.

Because of this electric shite I have it sleep after 15 min x.x

But in general I use it maybe once a week

I live on my iPad now

[chrome estuary]

i use mine every day after work. I prefer my multi monitor

honestly i could easily swap to my laptop but it'd be a bitch without something like a KVM switch

[pale sigil]

I don't do enough at home anymore to care about multiple monitor

[astral haven]

i use a chromecast to watch vids on my computer's monitor while I chat on discord on my phone

[pale sigil]

Hard to be motivated when I ain't got nothing going on lol

[chrome estuary]

my ipad is what i use in bed and it's pretty awesome. I've got a vesa arm bolted into the wall and it's magnetically connected to it. The arm swings out over the bed and it makes a perfect little youtube tv thing.

then i use my phone for discord and shit on that.

[hollow minnow]

no 240hz tho

[astral haven]

mine is

[chrome estuary]

god damn.

that's like 1300$

[astral haven]

1350 ye

[chrome estuary]

the Neo G8?

[astral haven]

ye

[chrome estuary]

neo is the miniled right?

[astral haven]

yep

[chrome estuary]

how's miniled?

[astral haven]

awesome and terrible

[cursive summit]

The duality of carmonben

[astral haven]

its terrible for text

its awesome for basically everything else

[gusty kiln]

How many zones?

[astral haven]

over 1k

its also va with native 3.5k:1 which helps alot

[chrome estuary]

why is it bad for text? too much color shift in a tiny area?

[gusty kiln]

I can see white text on black be horrible

[astral haven]

the text and background averages to too high, and it causes haloing around text

or too low and it causes the text to be super dim

but the g8 itself is awesome because it works just fine with dimming off

in auto mode it is basically perfect since it only switches on dimming in hdr mode

[hollow minnow]

Still too big.

[astral haven]

agan just move it further away

[hollow minnow]

Isn’t the same. My monitor is so close to my face that it’s basically part of my body. I don’t like playing with big monitors

But thanks for the suggestion :)

[vagrant pagoda]

yep

why my second screen is a pro art lol

somethings the fabl sucks at

stick it over there

[chrome estuary]

27" is perfect for me

[vagrant pagoda]

i just want 5 display gpus again

i loved 5x1

now ijust have 1+3+1

[astral haven]

my second screen is a cheapo chinese that is 99% p3 and de 2 oob

[vagrant pagoda]

IDK i love giant spanned displays though

but i even went to a 4ktv when i first went nvidia becasue i couldnt run 5

and size wise it was close

but idk just didnt like it as much

[ashen spindle]

intel last week vs amd this week lolololol

q/q vs y/y but still funny relatively

[crimson wigeon]

Oh

[cursive summit]

Pensando?

[astral haven]

dpus

[cursive summit]

dpus?

[astral haven]

extremely smart network cards

[cursive summit]

Never heard of such witchery

[astral haven]

now you have

[vagrant pagoda]

dpu is data processing unit

but yeah

think network card but way smarter

[astral haven]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S92rdAwIuNk

[vagrant pagoda]

amd bought them this year

[astral haven]

ya, theres a STH video on that too

but yea currently the most advanced ones are nvidia's

basically one of the first melanox projects after aquisition

[ashen spindle]

just makes vertical integration of AMD a bigger thing for data center mainly

[astral haven]

yap

thats always been amds weakness

intel literally will sell you everything but the rack itself if you want

[vagrant pagoda]

i mean the cheap bastards wouldnt throw one in lol

[astral haven]

idk maybe if you place big enough orders with them they would

[fair gull]

so thought about dt 770pro as travel headphones

[astral haven]

dont

[fair gull]

reasons?

[astral haven]

k371 exists

[chrome estuary]

because

[cursive summit]

DT770s are fine

[astral haven]

fine

[cursive summit]

I'd avoid K371s for travel

[astral haven]

but worse than both k361 and k371

[cursive summit]

Too much plastic and build is shabby

[fair gull]

i wont spend 140eur on headphones

[cursive summit]

K371s have amazing audio quality going for them

Not much else

[astral haven]

then k361

[fair gull]

100eur for the dt 770pro is already the limit

[cursive summit]

What about IEMs or TWS buds

[astral haven]

the build isnt perfect, but its very durable
i havent seen anyone actually break them

[fair gull]

fuck buds

[cursive summit]

🙋‍♂️

I broke mine

[astral haven]

well dang

[cursive summit]

Which is why I got the NDH-20s

And they are.. fine

[astral haven]

bit out of budget lel

[cursive summit]

I got mine for 200$ so

[chrome estuary]

eh buds can be useful depending on the situation and a few other things. they never work with my ears and i need true wireless audio devices due to work so i need a decent battery life too

[cursive summit]

Whatever

[cursive summit]

Okay but what about IEMs

Something like a Chu

[fair gull]

no

[astral haven]

no chu pls

[fair gull]

i will stick nothing into my ears

[cursive summit]

There really isn't much below 100 euros

[astral haven]

but something like the cra+ are awesome

[fair gull]

i was already happy with razer krakens

[astral haven]

how much are the n700nc mk2

[fair gull]

just cant stand them being onear

[cursive summit]

What the fuck

Krakens are so bad

[chrome estuary]

220?

[fair gull]

no wireless

[astral haven]

im asking tony cause its different everywhere basically

[chrome estuary]

ah

[cursive summit]

Those N700s look weird af

[astral haven]

ok how about coolermaster mh752 (or 1)

[cursive summit]

What about Shure SRH440

That's pretty solid

[wheat plume]

It would be great if Android could get dark mode on Snapchat

iPhone had it for almost 4 years now

-.-
But I doubt it will happen
Snapchat was designed to be iPhone exclusive when it was first created

[fair gull]

is the mic detachable?

[wheat plume]

Yes

[astral haven]

yep

[vagrant pagoda]

thatrs all on snap though

[fair gull]

looks wireless

so no

[cursive summit]

Gaming headsets..

[wheat plume]

My mic stopped working on my mh752 ;_;

[vagrant pagoda]

just like camera sucks dick on android

[cursive summit]

It's not??

[wheat plume]

Not anymore

It can actually access the camera directly now

[cursive summit]

SRH440 is really damn good

[fair gull]

https://discordjs.moe/sim6sl0myaxl.png

[vagrant pagoda]

its still not great

[fair gull]

looks wireless to me

in all the product pics

[astral haven]

detachable cable

[fair gull]

ah

[wheat plume]

Ah
So false marketing

[chrome estuary]

https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/81xV4fDF9HL._AC_SL1500_.jpg

[wheat plume]

Nice nice

[fair gull]

that already makes it better than specified

detachable cable is always a plus

[cursive summit]

They are pretty fine for 99$

[fair gull]

51eur

[cursive summit]

Lol what

[fair gull]

https://discordjs.moe/ok7suk11m0bg.png

[stark bobcat]

Noice

[fair gull]

wait

[wheat plume]

Any idea how to fix the mic not working?

[fair gull]

thats pounds

[cursive summit]

Thomann?

[fair gull]

why the fuck did thomann send me to gb

[astral haven]

mh752 is detacheable and locking

[fair gull]

ye

59eur

[stark bobcat]

Haven't tried those but sounds good for that price

[astral haven]

double check all plugs

or press the mic mute button

[wheat plume]

Mic mute button??

[cursive summit]

59 for SRH is a damn good deal

[stark bobcat]

Could be the mic just died that happens sometimes

[cursive summit]

Wait how much are the bigger and better brothers of the 440s

[fair gull]

why does the mh752 need inline controls

[wheat plume]

Oh...the one on the cable...

[wheat plume]

You don't need to use them

[cursive summit]

https://www.thomann.de/intl/shure_srh_840.htm

[astral haven]

the mh752 has a usb adapter built in

[cursive summit]

If you don't mind spending a bit more, SRH840s are just better SRH440s

[astral haven]

you can unplug it and its just straight 3.5mm with no inline controls

[fair gull]

so its 58eur for the coolermaster mh752 vs 59 for the shure srh440

[cursive summit]

I'd go with shure any day of the week

[astral haven]

i would go with the cm lel

[stark bobcat]

Coolermaster shudder

[fair gull]

thats my issue

[astral haven]

its takstar oem

[wheat plume]

I got a really great eq preset for my mh752
Sounds amazing

[astral haven]

its also relatively neutral stock
but most importantly its super comfortable

[fair gull]

the 840s would be a tiny stretch over budget

[cursive summit]

srh840s are one hell of cans

[fair gull]

but id still be willing to go there if the improvement is there

[cursive summit]

Prolly some of the best stuff you can get sub-200$

[astral haven]

the shure are good, but you probably will be better off with the cm

[stark bobcat]

U tried them?

[cursive summit]

Yes actually

[astral haven]

the takstar pro 82 are awesome

[fair gull]

how so

[cursive summit]

I found them literally randomly in a hardware shop

I liked them

[fair gull]

also is there velour pads for any of these

[cursive summit]

Typically it's all leather unless you get an AKG K602

Those are open though so don't get them

[astral haven]

more generally comfortable, less warm feeling.

[chrome estuary]

I mean you can get third party pads

[astral haven]

and audibly similar tho that will depend on genre which you will prefer

[cursive summit]

I dunno if Tony wants to spend the same amount he's about to spend on a headphone on pads

[stark bobcat]

Beyer makes velour pads for their lower end thing like the 770s

[astral haven]

the cm are less harsh but also less detailed

[stark bobcat]

I think

[fair gull]

if we talk general comfortable id say the astro a50 i have fits the best of any headset i ever wore

[astral haven]

why not use it?

[fair gull]

wireless and mic non detachable

[wheat plume]

All the headphones I've used
The hyperX Clouds 2 were by far the most comfy

[chrome estuary]

Are you insane? He's looking to spend 100 eur on headphones.

The cloud 2 feel cheap and light like they're made of nothing

[cursive summit]

We are literally talking about 50 euro cans rn

[fair gull]

and imma prob throw em away one i get some proper headphones for home

[cursive summit]

Proper headphones for home = K702

No discussion there

[chrome estuary]

Yeah but most pads are only like 20-30$

[astral haven]

that makes them rather comfortable lmao

[stark bobcat]

For me the bose qc25 were the most comfortable the hifiman sundara close second

[wheat plume]

They still intact for me since 2017

[cursive summit]

Clouds aren't that comfortable though

[wheat plume]

I need to replace the pads though

[cursive summit]

The clamping strength is really high on those

For bigger heads they clamp really damn harsh

[astral haven]

clamp strength is a problem that is solvable

[cursive summit]

bend the headphones

I did that, actually

[astral haven]

and the cloud 2 are strong enough that you can bend them backwards lel

[cursive summit]

I sat on my alphas one day, permanently bent sideways

[chrome estuary]

I own a pair of SR60X grados and the Velum 1

And I love my Velums.

[wheat plume]

Mine fell down the stairs :/
Still not a scratch

[astral haven]

just need to bend them back the other way

[cursive summit]

I tried

Even sitting back on them the other way

They refused to bend back

So I got the K371s instead

[stark bobcat]

Ever since I got my hifiman sundaras I had 0000000000 urge to upgrade

[cursive summit]

Good decision too, those are amazing

[gusty kiln]

ksc75+parts express headband+yaxi pads and call it a day

[astral haven]

how about just getting the kph30i...

[gusty kiln]

I like the ksc75 better

[stark bobcat]

Only other audio thing I'd buy would be staxx

[astral haven]

placebo

[gusty kiln]

wat

[astral haven]

they are identical hardware

[gusty kiln]

housing is different

[astral haven]

only difference between them is unit to unit variance

[gusty kiln]

different sound

[stark bobcat]

One thing I can say with confidence is that the porta pros are kinda cheeks

Because I actually have those

[cursive summit]

In reality where something as different pads make stuff sound different, I don't at all doubt housing also makes stuff sound different

[astral haven]

only difference is the material
the area directly in front of the driver and behind are identical

[astral haven]

yes but different housing color wont

[cursive summit]

Say whatever you want, I heard ||black runs better||

[gusty kiln]

https://gyazo.com/272c12684318abbe08576e80f96e3439

[cursive summit]

Oldest joke in the book

[astral haven]

thats rig jank

[gusty kiln]

do you have any proof?

[astral haven]

koss are impossible to accurately measure

[cursive summit]

This looks hella wrong

[astral haven]

yep but nothing can measure the koss

[chrome estuary]

Ngl I expected to get shit for mentioning the Velum 1.

[cursive summit]

Anyways, @fair gull , what are you getting

[gusty kiln]

kph30i are definitely darker than ksc75

[chrome estuary]

Pff forgot this was all about Tony

[cursive summit]

neumann

[astral haven]

thats a nah dawg

[gusty kiln]

he wants headphones

closed back

and like under 100

[fair gull]

https://discordjs.moe/v55hsvbp4izf.png

secret

[chrome estuary]

Ive got a pair of Samsung towers and they're fine. They're also self powered and nice. I know they're not the best or even best priced but they're perfect for me.

[astral haven]

i have the only good products from both of those companies
and they are solidly the least offensive products over 100

[stark bobcat]

Etymotic and giving me an ear infection name a more iconic duo

[cursive summit]

That's thomann, so I'm guessing some sort of Shures

Prolly 440s, Shures are good af

[wheat plume]

yeah, CMMH752 aint on Thomann

[gusty kiln]

imagine having different shaped ears

[stark bobcat]

Sure but some people's ear canals are just not made for them

[astral haven]

nah the etys will be high pressure regardless of your ear shape

that is highly untrue

[stark bobcat]

Says you

[gusty kiln]

made up numbers

[fair gull]

the srh840 shure ye

109eur

[cursive summit]

840s??

I hope you like them

[fair gull]

im ok with that

i wore on ears for 6 years daily they werent comfortable ever

[fair gull]

if not they go back tohomann

[astral haven]

the etys are like wearing those professional earplugs, but to get the sound right you need to put them deeper than they are designed to go

[fair gull]

easy as that

[cursive summit]

I really want to splurge on more headphones but common sense tells me NDH20s and K702s are enough

[gusty kiln]

are you getting 1540 pads?

[stark bobcat]

I wore them for weeks and they were never comfortable then I listened to some audio retard who said to "insert deeper" and got an infection I needed antibiotics for. not using them again

I've got better gear to use anyway

[fair gull]

the what

[astral haven]

and i mean like construction professional not audio professional

[gusty kiln]

https://www.amazon.com/Shure-HPAEC1540-Replacement-Alcantara-Headphones/dp/B00HXAV0UY/ref=sr_1_2?crid=C8MMOLT6ZTX&keywords=shure+1540+pads&qid=1667338997&qu=eyJxc2MiOiIxLjI0IiwicXNhIjoiMC43OSIsInFzcCI6IjAuMzcifQ%3D%3D&sprefix=shure+1540+pad%2Caps%2C76&sr=8-2

think they fit all shure headphones

obviously changes the sound

[cursive summit]

Lol fuck off

[astral haven]

i dailied mine for several months while spending the whole time trying different tips
didnt find anything that i could bear for over 2 hours

[cursive summit]

Imagine spending half of a headphone on pads

[gusty kiln]

[stark bobcat]

Also after trying I'd say staxx>anything that isn't speakers

[gusty kiln]

[cursive summit]

This is the same shit as keyboards, spend 200$ on a keyboard with no keycaps and then another 100$ for a full set of keycaps

Tf is this

[stark bobcat]

Enlightened me

[fair gull]

glad ill try the faux leather

[gusty kiln]

it is alcantara though

[cursive summit]

It's fine

There isn't anything wrong with leather

The only thing that will happen over time is they'll chip

But I guess at that point you can replace them

[stark bobcat]

My dude I cleaned them almost every day the things just bruised the inside of my ear canal

As simple as that

[cursive summit]

Typically for me leather starts to chip, at least for me, in 12 months time

[fair gull]

same

but thats 1 year of not spending 50bucks

[cursive summit]

Fair

[fair gull]

so /shrug

[cursive summit]

I don't think you'll mind the SRH840s

Just the fact is you're hopping from "gamer" headphones to professional audio

They will sound very different

Give em a few weeks and they'll grow on ye

[fair gull]

im using some eq presets from some sound engineer cause i lost my hd600 somehow

[cursive summit]

Ew, eq

[fair gull]

ikr

[stark bobcat]

Also how are you trolling your audio experience by not buying etymotic you do know many people have many different preferences when it comes to audio. Everyone experiences reality slightly differently

Like I really don't understand etymotic fanatics

[cursive summit]

I tried EQing once, followed a guide by the 1990 guy on reddit that's like notorious for EQing, made the sound worse, quit

[astral haven]

wtf you trolling
the only good thing about the etys is their stock curve

[gusty kiln]

not every headphone should be harmon target

[fair gull]

na the eq preset for the a50 i found made em sound ok

not hd600 levels of ok

most sad that i got 0 idea where those are

[cursive summit]

Tbf I tried eqing the NDH20s to make them not sound like shit

So if anything the EQing might have worked

[gusty kiln]

wasn't talking to you

[astral haven]

they do btw

[stark bobcat]

Interesting opinion to say the least can't say I agree

[cursive summit]

Just that NDH20s are so shit that even little improvements still make them sound shit

400$ headphones btw

[astral haven]

thats a very strange take

they are absolutely fantastic to eq

but you need to put on a corrective eq first

[cursive summit]

Absolutely terrific

Well whatever, me and fleimi listened to them, and came up to the same conclusion

They sound ass

I am so glad if you starve them out of power they sound good

[stark bobcat]

So can you actually explain why u believe that?

[wheat plume]

IM A FUCKING RETARD .-.

THAT WAS THE ISSUE THE WHOLE TIME

[fair gull]

no

[wheat plume]

🤦‍♀️

HOLY FUCKING SHIT IM DUMB

[fair gull]

yes

holy fucking

[astral haven]

no, harman is a target
it isnt v or any other shape, its a target

[cursive summit]

I remember the retarded "why does this work the way it does" IEMs where they play on half sound unless you permanently press down the button on the cable

Inline controls are just stupid

[wheat plume]

huh??

[stark bobcat]

I don't need the sound isolation so what else is there?

[fair gull]

germany has almost no ac

[ashen spindle]

most of europe*

[fair gull]

ya we do ac by using ventilators or fans

almost 0

idk what fans u use m8

[stark bobcat]

Imagine not being a noctua enjoyer

[fair gull]

ngl my gpu makes more noise than my desk fan

[cursive summit]

On more interesting news https://liliputing.com/minisforum-um690-mini-pc-features-amd-ryzen-9-6900hx-processor-ddr5-ram-and-40-gbps-usb4/

$599 for a mini PC is not a bad thing

[gusty kiln]

@ashen spindle interesting after hour activities

[fair gull]

wot?

[stark bobcat]

My pc is very quiet aside from when I have to access the spinning rust

[astral haven]

wow its almost like its *** a target***

[stark bobcat]

Idk how so many people believe etymotic to be the be all end all of headphone audio

[cursive summit]

Harman is pretty boring

[ashen spindle]

yea outlook is good and flat guideline on desktop vs down on intel side

[fair gull]

wot

[astral haven]

its not "shaped"
its a target that you modify with a shape of your choosing

[cursive summit]

I have no clue what's going on between these 2 either

They coworkers or what

[fair gull]

idk

[stark bobcat]

"no your headphones have to be neutral otherwise I decree that you are not allowed to enjoy audio"

[fair gull]

smthsmth lovers

[cursive summit]

your headphones have to be neutral otherwise I decree that you are not allowed to enjoy audio

[gusty kiln]

really interested to see q4 after RDNA3 and emptying AM4 stock

[cursive summit]

Neutral or fuck off

Brought to you by the K702 gang

[astral haven]

literally the most expensive audio equipment I own is literally just a dsp module

rofl

[stark bobcat]

It's funny because my main headphones are neutral but I don't mind other signatures too

Particularly bass boosted ones

[ashen spindle]

amd investors call and investor Q&A

[cursive summit]

Ahhh

[gusty kiln]

[fair gull]

weird couple roleplay but i wont judge

[cursive summit]

I wish I invested 2k back in 2016 when AMD's stock price was like 10$

[gusty kiln]

nothing weird about money

[cursive summit]

Could have made a 15x in 4 years

[ashen spindle]

yeah you could have but no sane person holds stock that long and doesnt sell earlier

same with people who say they wished they had kept bitcoin at 1$ price

[stark bobcat]

Don't tell me u wouldn't have sold at like 60

[gusty kiln]

kek that's my sister, but has has since added more and her average went up

[cursive summit]

Idk man I hold well

So well that I still hold those crypto coins that are down like 90%

Should have known they were a mistake

But hey in theory if you never sell you don't lose any money

[stark bobcat]

Dis u?

[cursive summit]

I don't do shitcoins

[crimson wigeon]

Don't worry they'll all moon eventually

[chrome estuary]

He looks like he's gonna explode

Like poke him with a needle and he'd pop like a balloon

[gusty kiln]

if he's on synthol

[cursive summit]

Yayy

Crunch crunch crunch

[gusty kiln]

he wants them to quit so he doesn't have to pay unemployment

[stark bobcat]

What are they crunching for?

[reef patrol]

Enter unions.

[stark bobcat]

Elon truly the bag holder rn

[fair gull]

id assume neuroprocessing and neuroproblemsolving in a deep trance state counts towards worktime

aka sleeping

[gusty kiln]

[ashen spindle]

lmfao meanwhile the last headline about the stock was "today looms the next disappointment" yeah idk man, stock going up really makes people sad

[gusty kiln]

[stark bobcat]

The people shorting surely will be sad

Idk why you'd short amd tho

[gusty kiln]

semis are down as a whole though

[stark bobcat]

But idk jack shit about stocks

I mean I'd imagine in a recession things would be going down in general

[ashen spindle]

which means you can make money buy saying it will go down

bit fucked up but thats how the system works

[stark bobcat]

Rich get richer

🤡

[cursive summit]

Stocks make no sense to me

[gusty kiln]

recessions are the best time for people with money to make more money

[cursive summit]

Last time I heard that people made money by Meta stock nosediving

How tf do you make money in stocks by a stock crashing

[final flame]

you buy at it's absolute lowest

[stark bobcat]

Shorting

[ashen spindle]

shorting is basically betting that the price goes down

[cursive summit]

I think they did something else, not shorting

[stark bobcat]

A thing that is generally is supposed to be risky

But hedge funds don't face much risk doing it

[ashen spindle]

well there are also option calls and things that also work if you call it correctly but shorting is the most commen and most drastic thing

[cursive summit]

That's the thing

Options and calls

I didn't take a look into what they are, but those were frequently mentioned

Crypto is simple, stocks are... too economical

[stark bobcat]

Crypto is simple because shit makes even less sense

Pump and dump is indeed very simple

[ashen spindle]

crypto has all the same, you can just gamble more and get richer faster if you are lucky because the volatility is higher

but you bet that shorting, margin calls and all is a thing for coins too

[stark bobcat]

Idek what crypto is based off I know stocks are supposed to reflect the fundamentals and future potential of a company

But coins like

Just entirely seems like gambling to me

[gusty kiln]

mostly fomo atm

[frozen ingot]

imposing that great chinese worker morale he praised the chinese tesla factory for

"why can't americans work as well as this?"

[ashen spindle]

"the people in the mines that made my parents rich didnt want to unionize, why do americans want that?"

[gusty kiln]

fucking labor laws, preventing me and my profits

[frozen ingot]

"being chained at your post isn't as bad as it sounds, these labor unions have given our worker conditions a bad rep"

[stark bobcat]

Imagine not being born with the bag

[pale sigil]

This makes me happy https://youtu.be/m8lsUvil_S8

[stark bobcat]

yeah my hp laptop was very easy to open and work with

one of the good things they do

[gusty kiln]

are HP laptop more flexible with PD chargers?

my dell seems to be really picky

[reef patrol]

Wake me up when they offer it as a broader thing instead of a single line.

[stark bobcat]

eh mine asks me to buy a hp one but I haven't really tried any other ones and just use the barrel plug also mine is ryzen 4000 so already a bit older

[stark bobcat]

well it s at least 2 lines idk how many in total

but both probooks and elitebooks have this

[gusty kiln]

my next laptop will prob be a USBC PD charging only

would love a 16" ultrabook with a 99 Whr battery

[stark bobcat]

okay I have to revise my statement I just tried my steamdeck charger and it's working just fine with the hp

[gusty kiln]

hmmm

[vagrant pagoda]

the hp chargers are multivoltage out

i know that

5/9/12/15/20v\

[astral haven]

define picky
there are dells that need a 130w charger to not discharge and those are ofc picky
but afaik everything else just gives you a popup window saying to buy an official charger

im perfectly fine with a popup for unofficial chargers (as long as you can get rid of it)

but yea my hp will charge from 5v (non pd) when shut down and its awesome

[gusty kiln]

my dell needs 90W

I tried a 90W usbc charger, but no dice

even a dell branded one

[astral haven]

theres no 90w pd spec

[gusty kiln]

rip

[astral haven]

3a or 5a at 5/9/12/15/20v

so you need a 100w generic pd charger

[gusty kiln]

I'll try that

[astral haven]

a 90w charger is probably 65w + 25

[gusty kiln]

cuz I really want to just bring 1 charger for both my phone and laptop

[astral haven]

you need a rather expensive one for that

[gusty kiln]

I know a lot of those GaN tend to overheat and reduce the wattage

[astral haven]

what

no

[gusty kiln]

well the cheaper ones I've seen reviews on

[astral haven]

yea no

the chips dont really support that

[gusty kiln]

https://www.amazon.com/Nekteck-Charger-Certified-Foldable-Compatible/dp/B09MD9HJG6/ref=sr_1_3?crid=1K1OD17H3OWDE&keywords=100w+pd+charger&qid=1667345301&qu=eyJxc2MiOiI1LjgwIiwicXNhIjoiNS41MSIsInFzcCI6IjQuODMifQ%3D%3D&sprefix=100w+pd+charger%2Caps%2C57&sr=8-3

yay or nay

[astral haven]

that can only charge your laptop alone

100w doesnt mean 100w per port

its 100w total

[gusty kiln]

it's only 1 port on the one I linked

[astral haven]

oh then yea thatll work

thats huuuuge for 1 port tho

[gusty kiln]

add it to my next amazon batch order

[astral haven]

you should look at the 150w 4 port chargers

the 150w dual usb c dual usb a can run 1 usb c and both usb a at full power at the same time

as long as you only use 1 usb c

personally have the 200w ugreen just so everything i own is on one

[gusty kiln]

200??? jeeeezz

and it cost 200 as well

1w/$1

[astral haven]

65w laptop and steam deck, 25w phone

[gusty kiln]

how hot does it get?

[astral haven]

not

i never use all at the same time tho

i also use it as my benchtop psu

[gusty kiln]

oh

[astral haven]

pps is awesome

5 amp 3.3 to 20v in steps of 1mv

I do also have several more usb chargers, i have the 100w 2c2a anker for my audio gear that works great
and the 65w generic 2c1a

the generic 65w 2c1a has alot of vdroop on pps so my phone doesnt like it very much
but its also under $20 and works fantastically for pd

[vagrant pagoda]

your phone dosent correct for vdroop?

it should raise the pps

mine dose

[astral haven]

it has too much

[vagrant pagoda]

ah

[astral haven]

and it also doesnt happen on really short cables

its very borderline working

but with my magnetic adapters and long cables its just drooping too much

[vagrant pagoda]

my phone is 33w 11v/3a

it will pps up to a little over 12

[astral haven]

mine will pd 12v
but it pps's at up to 9

[vagrant pagoda]

ah

thats odd

[astral haven]

nah

its 2 s

it just does conversion for 12vpd

[vagrant pagoda]

why not pps up to 12 if it can take it?

[astral haven]

single conversion

it would be doubleconverting if it took 12v

[vagrant pagoda]

why would they not use a wide inpuit buck?

thats what mine has

single buck from 5v to 12

[pale sigil]

Anyone have any decent ideas on how to access a Samsung A42 with a none working screen lol

[astral haven]

thats ruining the point of pps lmao

[astral haven]

pps directly feeds into the battery

[vagrant pagoda]

what battery takes 9v?

[pale sigil]

Sisters friend lost all access to Google, she hasn't updated her phone number so we can't use that to recover it, only 2fa on the old device.

[astral haven]

a 2s lipo

[vagrant pagoda]

4.5v a cell?

thats fire zone

[astral haven]

charging voltage not cell voltage

[vagrant pagoda]

yeah

and the max charge voltage of normal lipo is 4.4v

i wouldnt even charge my whoop gum sticks at 4.5

[astral haven]

8.8v is about 9v 🤷

[vagrant pagoda]

0.1 v over is a lot for lithium

[gusty kiln]

https://www.youtube.com/c/AllThingsOnePlace/videos

[astral haven]

its different chemistry

[vagrant pagoda]

yeah

and lihv is still 4.4

[gusty kiln]

this guy reviews a bunch of chargers

[vagrant pagoda]

4.45 is considered the max safe

[astral haven]

depends on the chemistry

[vagrant pagoda]

and they would never last in a phone

[astral haven]

lifepo4 would instantly explode at that

well

no instantly break

[vagrant pagoda]

yes

[astral haven]

but phone chemistries are optimized

[vagrant pagoda]

show me a lithium that is recommened at 4.5v a cell

i have a ton of high performance lithium, and 4.5 would scare me on any of them

letalone 4.5 in my pocket

[astral haven]

you dont charge the cell to that

your supply provides that and the cell charges up

[vagrant pagoda]

you do CC then CV

it would never get to over 4.5v in CC mode

[astral haven]

again depends on the chemistry

[vagrant pagoda]

I have 80c+ cells

and they barely get to 4.4 under CC

[astral haven]

phones do some really fancy magic

youd be shocked

[vagrant pagoda]

again

show me a battery rated for a CV of 4.5

[astral haven]

thats not what it is tho

[vagrant pagoda]

you cant because at 4.5v input they would over charge

[astral haven]

you arent understanding

[vagrant pagoda]

the IR isnt high enough

you arent

you said the phone isnt doing converting

so you can either have CC at 5A

or CV at 9V

[astral haven]

and pps doesnt do either

[vagrant pagoda]

exactally

there isnt a way to charage with pps withouth something in the phone

which is why what you said isnt true

[astral haven]

the phone doesnt do any conversion

[vagrant pagoda]

then

youre dumb, or un informed

as you cant do that lol

[astral haven]

thats the whole point of pps...

[vagrant pagoda]

if you give a lithium 2s pack 9v it will draw more than 5a

and trip the limit on pps

you have to have something do CC inbetween that 9v and the 2s pack

[astral haven]

a wire

[vagrant pagoda]

ah yes

a phone totally would use a wire as a serise reisistor to protect its self from a lithium fire

there is 100% a charge controller in the phone doing CC

what phone

[astral haven]

fam its pps

https://www.infineon.com/dgdl/Infineon-Universal_USB-C_Charger_Designs_Enabled_by_Programmable_Power_Supply-Whitepaper-v01_00-EN.pdf?fileId=5546d4627aa5d4f5017af5d1d5131db9&da=t

[vagrant pagoda]

those arent phones

what phone

[astral haven]

idfk infineon censored it

but thats very very likely my phone

[vagrant pagoda]

you phone is censored?

[astral haven]

i have an s21u

[wheat plume]

👀

uh

oh

[vagrant pagoda]

also you said PD dosent do cv or cc

[astral haven]

well ofc it supports that

but the implementation on phones is more complicated than that

[wheat plume]

EVIL LAUGHS

[vagrant pagoda]

also

your phone is 1s

https://www.ifixit.com/Guide/Samsung+Galaxy+S21+Ultra+Battery+Replacement/148256

so its both, youre dumb and uninformed.

[astral haven]

?

it charges at 2s

[vagrant pagoda]

no

it charges the single lithium cell at 1s

[astral haven]

🤷 the phone charges at 2s

[vagrant pagoda]

2s would be two cells

[astral haven]

🤷

[astral haven]

look fam
it requests pps voltages of up to 9v

[vagrant pagoda]

yes

and there is a controller on the phone

[astral haven]

its a 4.45v battery which means its charging at 2s

[vagrant pagoda]

doing buck down to 4.xV to charge the cell

no

2s would be a 8v battery

[astral haven]

no

[vagrant pagoda]

yes

that is literally what 2s means

[astral haven]

well a 2s battery would be 8v

[vagrant pagoda]

2 series

the battery gets CC then CV at 4.45v

it NEVER gets more than that

[astral haven]

at the battery terminals

but the psu needs to output more than that

[vagrant pagoda]

nope

[astral haven]

how much you wanna bet

[vagrant pagoda]

you dont know how to charge lithium do you?

you literally run CC, then CV at rated charge voltage

[astral haven]

at the cell

[vagrant pagoda]

no at the chrager

i chrage my drone batteries with a bench supply

[astral haven]

Okay so you're not charging them as fast as they could be charged

[vagrant pagoda]

yes i am

[astral haven]

There's a lot more complicated stuff going on in phones

[astral haven]

Are you compensating for the resistance of the connections between your cell and your power supply?

[vagrant pagoda]

i will pay you $100 to video you puting 9v to the input of a 1s cell lol

[astral haven]

And how much are you willing to pay me for charging my phone using PPS at 9 volts

[vagrant pagoda]

what goes into the phone

has zero to do with the voltage the phone charges the battery at

the phone charges the battery to 4.45

end of story

[astral haven]

Good for you

[vagrant pagoda]

not 9v

not 5v

only 4.45

5v at the cell would degrade it rapidly

[astral haven]

But
My phone PPS charges at well over 8v

[vagrant pagoda]

yes

and your phone has a buck converter

[astral haven]

And PPS charging bypasses the built in buck

Look you need to read the paper that I provided you on how PPS works

What I suspect Samsung is doing is they are directly charging the battery using a voltage divider

There are multiple cells inside of my phone

[vagrant pagoda]

no it dosent

[astral haven]

The phone discharges them however they do
But they get charged at 2s

[vagrant pagoda]

yeah

[astral haven]

https://youtu.be/1nx_n-wEtII?t=976

[vagrant pagoda]

it has a max777o5c

[astral haven]

Watch from timestamp

[vagrant pagoda]

yes

what dose it say on the left

pointing to the battery

[astral haven]

2x vbattery

[vagrant pagoda]

and on the right

where it showes the battery

[astral haven]

That's irrelevant

[vagrant pagoda]

no

that is the battery voltage

AFTER THE REGULATOR

RT9759 is a ACTIVE REGULATOR

[astral haven]

You didn't watch the video

[vagrant pagoda]

i am

tell me where at any point

there is power bypassing both regutators

[astral haven]

Ok you also need to listen to what he says

[vagrant pagoda]

again

where

[astral haven]

I timestamped it

[vagrant pagoda]

dose the power bypass the regulators

no there the power is going though an active regulator

[astral haven]

It "passes straight through" the regulators

[vagrant pagoda]

no

it is regulatated by the regulators

[astral haven]

You didn't listen

[vagrant pagoda]

the battery voltage in the video is different then input

that mean

[astral haven]

That is what a divider does yes?

[vagrant pagoda]

its being regulatated

yes

[astral haven]

No

[vagrant pagoda]

yes

[astral haven]

Division isn't regulation

Which you would know if you listened to what he said

[vagrant pagoda]

lol

the RT9759 in the video

is literally an active regulator

[astral haven]

It's many things

[vagrant pagoda]

it will never let you stuff 9v into a battery

its impossible with that chip

[astral haven]

And?

Fam you worded it wrong, it's fine

[vagrant pagoda]

because its a regulator

[astral haven]

Is 2 resistors a regulator?

[vagrant pagoda]

it is converting the voltage down

[astral haven]

Yes but it's not regulating the voltage

The voltage into the circuit is double the voltage that exits the circuit

It's performing a 2s to 1s conversion

Or in the case of some crazy phones a 4S to 2s conversion

Or in the case of some absolutely insane phones a 6S to 3s conversion

[vagrant pagoda]

yes but its being converted in the phone

[astral haven]

Yes but it's passive

So there's nothing buck and there's nothing regulator

[vagrant pagoda]

its still converted

and

[astral haven]

Whatever

[vagrant pagoda]

its regulated

[astral haven]

No it's not

[vagrant pagoda]

yes it is

[astral haven]

The whole point of the PPS standard is that all of the regulation gets off-boarded

[vagrant pagoda]

thats what keeps changing the pps

and it will 100% stop the charge internally if the charger gives to high of voltage/current

[astral haven]

You've heard it here first folks rocket lake has fully integrated voltage regulation because the processor requests the voltage be regulated

[vagrant pagoda]

thats what you call regulaion

[vagrant pagoda]

i never said it was all internal

it still regulated

[astral haven]

Okay that is my mistake I thought that you implied that the phone was doing voltage regulation

I didn't realize that you were talking about the charger too

[vagrant pagoda]

they both are

just like fully integrated power stages on motherboards, they have internal and external regulation

[astral haven]

No the whole point is that the phone requests a specific voltage or specific current and the PPS charger provides that

[astral haven]

Except instead of the CPU being 2 inches away it's 3 m away and with a very unknown Cable in between

[vagrant pagoda]

which is EXTACTLY why it has internal regulation to go with the external from the chrager

[astral haven]

No

The only thing that happens inside of the phone is the voltage gets divided

[vagrant pagoda]

so

if you cut open the cable

and supply it with 15v in the middle of the charge cycle

the phone will explode?

[astral haven]

🤷 it'll probably do the same thing as when it gets hit by a badusb
That is turn off instantly because the battery disconnected

[vagrant pagoda]

ah and what do you call that?

[astral haven]

Protections?

And I'm very confident that that would happen regardless of whether PPS was engaged or not

Voltage regulation is where you change a voltage to be a specific voltage

A protection circuit that disconnects from a dangerous source is not regulation that's protection

I understand that my phone does contain Buck regulation
But it doesn't use that for PPS

That's the whole point of PPS

All of the really inefficient Buck nonsense is done outside

[empty wren]

Great screen on time(ignore YouTube something got busted)

[wheat plume]

How's he got the redesign on the phone app???

Is it Pixel 7 exclusive?

Mines just the same dull grey

[gusty kiln]

probably android version exclusive

what android version are you on?

[wheat plume]

13

[gusty kiln]

[wheat plume]

Oh hmm

[empty wren]

That is nothing too special

But go ahead and install it

It is a large base of android code

So what llay update are you on

Just curious

And what security patch

[wheat plume]

Oh this is a large one

[empty wren]

Yep usually that big

[wheat plume]

O.o
You got a pixel 7??!!

[empty wren]

No

Rog Phone 6

[wheat plume]

Oo...

[empty wren]

But I do got a beta for Android 13

[empty wren]

I know someone at my dad's workplace who already has one for like 2-3 weeks though

Camera is still as nice if not better as I remember

[empty wren]

Damn it

[wheat plume]

Ah now my play system update is October

[empty wren]

Where is my November play update

And oof Asus is behind on security patches

Not by much but still

They are not that heavy

I am impressed you got android 13

Which only recently came out

I thought it was in beta on pixel 7

Oh wait nevermind that is quarterly release for pixels that is in beta

[wheat plume]

My play store looks different now

I got this popup on YouTube but still the Old style

[empty wren]

Oh

Man that pixel 7/pro is so wide

[astral haven]

Just get a custom version of the YouTube app

[empty wren]

Or get a theme

[astral haven]

Does YouTube itself support custom themes?

[empty wren]

No

But android supports themes

To theme youtube you need root

Unless you got android 9

[astral haven]

I don't have root

And I have a custom themed YouTube app

[empty wren]

Ah unfortunate well vanced or whatever one should work just as well if not better

I hear they got extra features

[wheat plume]

I think the YouTube redesign is exclusive to p7/pro

[empty wren]

Doubt

It being permanent

[astral haven]

I'm confident someone will port it to revanced in a matter of very short time

[wheat plume]

Yeh xd

[empty wren]

Hmm what is special about revanced

[astral haven]

It's updated

[empty wren]

Does it have the ad skip thing?

[astral haven]

Yep

[empty wren]

Okay I gotta try it

[astral haven]

Currently broken:
Forcing specific speed globally
Cast (ofc)

[empty wren]

My Chromecast is broke or something anyways

¯_(ツ)_/¯

Refuses to connect to T-Mobile 5G

[stark bobcat]

I hope google makes another good pixel a

[empty wren]

They probably will

But I would not expect headphone jack

Which is a big loss

[stark bobcat]

🤷‍♂️

[empty wren]

I know a lot of people liked it for that reason

[stark bobcat]

most use galaxy buds pro with my phone anyway

I'm over it

[wheat plume]

Yeah....I doubt the jack is coming back to the A series ;_;

[empty wren]

Fair enough, I just use speakers even in public(sorry for the ping)

[wheat plume]

Especially now they have an A series for their pixel buds

[stark bobcat]

but I do have a 4a rn with a jack

sometimes I use it

[empty wren]

I mean headphone is a nice to have

If we are being honest

[empty wren]

Pixel buds are probably fine

Just to bad all these solutions are like $100+

When people could with a headphone jack

But some cheap skull candy earbuds

[stark bobcat]

well I got my buds pro for around 80€ I always buy this shit when the new one comes out so I get it for cheaper probably could get them even cheaper now

[wheat plume]

My 28 euro IEMs sound amazing

[empty wren]

Yeah I think sometimes they might come free on preorder as well

[empty wren]

Are those wireless or what are those

[wheat plume]

Wired

[empty wren]

Oh okay

[stark bobcat]

honestly having a wire flapping about in public really is a bit annoying even tho I like to have most of my stuff wired

[empty wren]

Okay fair point

[stark bobcat]

for when I'm not at home wireless is pretty convenient

[empty wren]

And this why I liked top headphone jacks

[stark bobcat]

mine is on top

[empty wren]

The best place

Unless someone uses their phone upside down

[astral haven]

But then I need to flip my phone upside down to shove it in my pocket...

[wheat plume]

I love when the jack is on the bottom and the headphone cable has a right angled plug

So it doesn't stick out of the bottom of the phone

[astral haven]

45 degree plugs are the best

[wheat plume]

Wat

... Those exist?!

[stark bobcat]

I usually prefer it on top but I had both and honestly it doesn't make that much of a difference both are okay

[gusty kiln]

gib 1/4" headphone jack on phone

[wheat plume]

O.o

[stark bobcat]

hmm my old vmoda headphones had that

[astral haven]

Ye vmoda is where I first saw it

[gusty kiln]

i remember when mr speakers planar came with v moda cable

https://www.dagogo.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/Regular.jpg

[empty wren]

Must be your force of habit

[astral haven]

My s5 and previous lg phones had top jacks
And my first smartphone was an LG with a top jack

And i broke many earbuds

[empty wren]

I never did but alright