ipc gain is about the same as zen2 got and a bit less than zen3 got
#🔌│tech
astral haven
im still sad that noone did a 3.0x16 chipset slot on z690
ashen spindle
can you still use pincode login instead of faceID on newer iphones? cant find anyone talking about it
cursive summit
I asked bexin a little while ago and he said that you can
ashen spindle
ah, video shows other options too, so longer pins still work, thats what I was looking for
ty
cursive summit
What REALLY confuses me is the supposed lack of a fingerprint sensor
Like I can log into my banking app with the biometric login which just needs my fingerprint
I don't think that'd work with faceID
Why is apple resorting to not include a fingerprint scanner
ashen spindle
think it might have some sensor still but just not touch id
but also something I'd just wish phones would not use at all so I'm not really following it
frozen ingot
I don't really miss it
gusty kiln
My work phone forces actual password all the time, it's a pain
shadow minnow
I don't think that'd work with faceID
It does
frozen ingot
but I know a guy who refuses to upgrade from his 8 because it doesn't have a home button/touchID 
frozen ingot
yeah all my banking etc apps work with faceID
frozen ingot
My work phone forces actual password all the time, it's a pain
mine does it occasionally, but yeah its a little annoying
ashen spindle
if they ever do away with pin code login I'd never get one so hoping that will stay
shadow minnow
On the one hand it’s pretty hard to fool Face ID
And well you could technically kinda still go arround TouchID without chopping of someone’s finger as well 
gusty kiln
if they ever do away with pin code login I'd never get one so hoping that will s...
Are you apple only?
cursive summit
On the one hand it’s pretty hard to fool Face ID
And well you could technically ...
Or cut someone's head off and use that to fool faceid
Goes both ways
ashen spindle
I am lazy and on iphone 6 still so I just dont want to get used to android or do anything about that hehe
cursive summit
I just far prefer to never give my ugly ass face to Apple and just use touch auth
shadow minnow
I just far prefer to never give my ugly ass face to Apple and just use touch aut...
So you give them your fingerprint and take your face if you ever take a selfie?
cursive summit
I don't take selfies
frozen ingot
I just far prefer to never give my ugly ass face to Apple and just use touch aut...
I mean all phones have front facing cameras so google has your ugly mug too whether you know it or not 
cursive summit
In fact I don't use camera at all
ashen spindle
only reason I am keeping my eye on a new one is because the 16gb storage is almost full with just OS and cache files that I cant delete
cursive summit
Camera is literally a half useless feature to me
gusty kiln
Lol
ashen spindle
otherwise I'd still keep this going for another year or two
frozen ingot
unless you literally tape over that thing
shadow minnow
frozen ingot
camera is like the main reason why I even want to upgrade to a new phone
cursive summit
I just want a super beefed up SoC on a beautiful, big but pocketable display and super powerful speakers with headphone jack
shadow minnow
Have to move photos to backup storage every few months
shadow minnow
I just want a super beefed up SoC on a beautiful, big but pocketable display and...
Well if it wasn’t for the headphone jack I would have had a recommendation
ashen spindle
honestly biggest issue I have if I do need to upgrade this cycle already is that the 14 is still not using USB
frozen ingot
I don't have much use for more powerful cpu, and I don't want a huge bulky display either
cursive summit
I don't have much use for more powerful cpu, and I don't want a huge bulky displ...
Our use cases differ
shadow minnow
I wouldn’t mind switch to usb c anymore
gusty kiln
I'm just waiting for a manufacturer to finally crack and offer a folding tablet phone under 1k
cursive summit
I use a 14.9" tablet before going to bed
shadow minnow
Since I charge the new AirPods using Apple Watch charger
cursive summit
I like big
frozen ingot
and phone speakers, while not as terrible as a decade ago still suck ass for music imo
cursive summit
and phone speakers, while not as terrible as a decade ago still suck ass for mus...
That is actually, wrong
Speakers are pretty good now
shadow minnow
Pretty not bad
cursive summit
I still use headphones 90% still
frozen ingot
by miniature speaker standards yeah
cursive summit
Which is why BRING BACK HEADPHONE JACK
gusty kiln
honestly biggest issue I have if I do need to upgrade this cycle already is that...
Feels like they rather go portless than usb
frozen ingot
but still garbage compared to actual speakers
shadow minnow
Which is why BRING BACK HEADPHONE JACK
No
shadow minnow
Feels like they rather go portless than usb
Wouldn’t mind that either tbh
ashen spindle
Feels like they rather go portless than usb
no by law they need to use usb
wireless only does not fly
cursive summit
Seriously I wish there were companies other than Sony that include a hi-fi DAC in the phone for the peeps that listen with headphones
Sony's getting my attention for now
frozen ingot
my ipad has pretty much gotten confined to my bedside, am fine with like 6" most of the time if it means I can actually use it well with one hand
hi-fi DACs are a dime a dozen these days though
ashen spindle
the eu wording is basically "you need to have usb-c for charging", no that IF you have a port it has to be usbc
cursive summit
Last time I touched an Apple phone, which wasn't that long ago
Why are they all so damn tiny
gusty kiln
no by law they need to use usb
Like it has to be physically on the device? I can see them trying to loophole it by saying the magsafe charge uses usb
frozen ingot
small phone is good
cursive summit
It's like that thing is smaller than my palm
Lad I am over 2m tall, those phones are miniature
I can't use a mini phone
ashen spindle
apple wont risk a sales ban in the EU just to not use usbc lmfao
frozen ingot
am close to 2 meters too, and got big hands
cursive summit
What, how
Apple phones are borderline unusable for me
They are tiny, hard to navigate and use
frozen ingot
still hate these phablet size things
cursive summit
That's why I go with 7" phones and big tablets
Even the Apple's 10" tablet was just rather small
gusty kiln
Mang is a slendermen
cursive summit
Tab S8 Ultra I have rn is like, a bit on the too big side but I like the 14" screen size
frozen ingot
if I have to use both hands to comfortably access all features and soft buttons, the phone sucks imo
or constantly change grip
cursive summit
Well height doesn't indicate size of hands I suppose
Cause I can easily handle a "big" phone
Apples phones I find are just too small
cursive summit
I remember I once saw the mini series phone
What was it called, 12 mini
It was so damn small holy hell
frozen ingot
tbh I wanted the 5.8" pro more but was too pricy
cursive summit
My waifu liked it, she prefers small
But man I couldn't stand how finger sized it was
frozen ingot
6.3" is on the very limit of what's reasonably usable one-handed to me
gusty kiln
My s20fe with a case is just barely usable for me
cursive summit
Oh it seems the current 14 pro max is actually bigger than my current phone
6.7" to my Poco's 6.6"
frozen ingot
pro max are huge imo
gusty kiln
Without the case it's actually pretty nice to use
astral haven
work gives me an iphone se and its convenient how small and ignorable it is lel
cursive summit
work gives me an iphone se and its convenient how small and ignorable it is lel
I already lose my phone all the time at home
I don't want it to slip out of my pocket
frozen ingot
I lose mine because the fuckin thing blends into the environment so easily
cursive summit
I just kind of realized how I don't care about phones at all anymore
frozen ingot
last time I get a black phone
cursive summit
99% of my time is spent at the PC
I largely never touch my phone anymore
Most my phone ever gets used for is prolly music playback when I go out, and that happens seldom often anyways
Guess I am really not in the demographic that these sort of phones are aimed at
frozen ingot
well the kind of features I want in a phone has gotten increasingly priced out of my reach so guess am not upgrading anymore
fucking $1500 phones because one wants the latest and greatest camera tech
get bent fruit company
cursive summit
At that point why don't you just get a compact professional camera
Those aren't that expensive
astral haven
At that point why don't you just get a compact professional camera
they are not compact lel
cursive summit
Also the best "pro camera" phone which would be Sony Xperia Pro-I can be had rn for like 900$ on ebayz
frozen ingot
sure a good point and shoot camera is better than a phone, but not that much better than the best phone cameras imo
astral haven
Also the best "pro camera" phone which would be Sony Xperia Pro-I can be had rn ...
worse than a s21u in many situations
cursive summit
I heard good things from that thing in some reviews I watched
Friendly for photographers who want to edit the thing themselves
astral haven
its a good phone
but it has a smaller sensor than the s21u practically
less zoom
and worse macro
shadow minnow
And well 14 pro beats s21u
frozen ingot
if I want something that truly shits on a phone camera across the board its dslr territory
shadow minnow
Can’t compare phone to cannon EOS r5 for example
Though phones make it way easier to get higher dynamic range
cursive summit
DSLR cameras?
frozen ingot
not only do I have my phone everywhere I go, I can edit and upload the pics in a jiffy
cursive summit
I can get one for 390$ new rn
shadow minnow
Yes but different dslrs perform differently
frozen ingot
a point and shoot is another device and more work post-phototaking
cursive summit
It's a Canon EOS 4000D
shadow minnow
I can get one for 390$ new rn
Good luck getting cannon EOS r5 for that price
shadow minnow
Not all dslrs are better than phones though
That’s the thing
Like cannon m3 was on average probably worse than my phone
cursive summit
Meh not like I care for photography much
Maybe if I ever live in a picturesque place I might
New Zealand or Japan, one day
gusty kiln
How are the pixel cameras this gen?
fickle ore
I can't afford more than 200$ phones so I just buy 200$ phones. Smaller the better tbh
cursive summit
How are the pixel cameras this gen?
Pixel 7 hasn't launched yet so we'll see
shadow minnow
I tend to do quite a bit of photography with phone and ocasionally dlsrs myself
cursive summit
Or has it
Oh the Pixel 7 is launched already
Haven't heard much from it
JUST WORKS?
breaking news, XDA sued by Bethesda
For copyright infringement of trademarks
Fuckers, no headphone jack
gusty kiln
Pretty much a given at this point
astral haven
just buy a cx31993 and give up
cursive summit
I'll fight my headphone jack battle to the bitter end
astral haven
a cx31993 provides a better jack than any phone has had internally so far
cursive summit
And it's a dongle so kindly, fuck off
Why on earth is Pixel 7 Pro € 912.33 / $ 775.00
astral haven
And it's a dongle so kindly, fuck off
you already have a wire...
cursive summit
Has euro fallen off that badly
ashen spindle
eur usd is 1:1 basically yes
glacial snow
Taxes are never included in the US price
glacial snow
You get hit with those at the cash register
cursive summit
Taxes are never included in the US price
It's a buy it now price though from ebay
I don't think I remember ebay doing customs stuff
astral haven
they have to lmao
pale sigil
They do at checkout
glacial snow
Every state in the US has different taxes, so they can't just sell it under one price
pale sigil
Correcto
astral haven
and most cities also have different prices under that
vivid vine
An now states are realizing a ton of us buy stuff online, so they are including online sales tax which usually differs from the local sales tax if you went in person
shadow minnow
5800X3D is great ngl, just no OC 
shadow minnow
Yes but OC is fun
cursive summit
In tripping breakers and fucking PSUs
ashen spindle
yeah if you want to quickly kill it, there is a reason oc is disabled on it
shadow minnow
What I have done most of the time using my pc was OC
It’s pain but fun
cursive summit
I hope AMD showcases 7000X3D on Nov 3rd
shadow minnow
yeah if you want to quickly kill it, there is a reason oc is disabled on it
Yes but it’s sad OC would kill it.
With other CPUs as long as you OC reasonably you don’t tend to kill stuff
cursive summit
Not launches, just showcases as a teaser
shadow minnow
I hope AMD showcases 7000X3D on Nov 3rd
Ngl would be interesting
cursive summit
They started doing the weird teaser thingies lately
ashen spindle
because others are not 3dstacked and the reasons its dangrous is the thermal envelope of the thing
also I dont see them talk about the cpu nov3
cursive summit
When they released a supplement of 5000 series CPUs, they teased Zen 4
They keep teasing shit at least a year off
ashen spindle
I fully expect it to be a ces announcement
cursive summit
And X3D is not at all a thing a year off
A teaser would be fun, to see what they are cooking up
shadow minnow
500w 
cursive summit
Doesn't 5800X3D already suck less power than its non-stacked counterpart?
The whole stacked cache technology is amazing, I wonder what else can be done to buff CPUs
shadow minnow
Clearly Intel better
cursive summit
Ah fuck off with your yee yee ass haircut nigel
AMD remains superior to Intel for the time being
shadow minnow
Imagine if AMD CPUs had as good thermal transfer
The power they could have
shadow minnow
AMD remains superior to Intel for the time being <:dogekek:846285268289323069>
You can clearly see on both axis Intel cpu scales higher so it’s better
cursive summit
What's wrong with AMD's thermal transfer
cursive summit
They literally redesigned the CPU shroud this generation too
X3D is supposed to be incredibly efficient as well
Bexin, you and trolling
shadow minnow
Wdym efficient, can’t even reach 200w
shadow minnow
Intel CPUs way more efficient, can reach 185w at 10000 less score than amd
cursive summit
Alright can we stop with this
shadow minnow
Can't heat your room in winter
Here winter version
shadow minnow
Clearly you’ll die because of cold this winter
Because you have AMD
That’s why Putin hates Intel so much
shadow minnow
That’s because amd owned media censored it
ashen spindle
bruh how come since laps does the testing the LTT reviews just got worse
first the cyberpunk scaling thing
now they cant even do charts right anymore
shadow minnow
See it’s like thinking vaulttec wanted to protect humans
They aren’t making labs to test tech
astral haven
jesus christ thats bad
shadow minnow
They are making labs to test people
ashen spindle
like there are like a dozen mistakes in there
since when did they forget that the intel numbers are not actual consumer msrp prices but 1k unit prices
like I remember linus being the one that was adamant about that being misleading for consumers if thats the only price that gets known
gusty kiln
Lol they said 110 less than 7950x
ashen spindle
and now they compare msrp of amd to 1kunit pricing of intel???
like cmon I was hoping labs would make details better for content not worse
shadow minnow
Gotta get funding for the labs somehow
astral haven
like cmon I was hoping labs would make details better for content not worse
to be entirely fair regarding that, labs isnt set up yet
ashen spindle
or maybe labs does and someone else inbetween is not doing good checks
ashen spindle
look you dont need a running 20 man labs team to get a spec table correct
astral haven
labs is gonna be a database, and for now they are working on building that
ashen spindle
like especially after the recent 4090 issue how tf did they not think to double check the next big review
astral haven
who is responsible for this
shadow minnow
I mean to be fair the 1 unit price for Intel is usually not true.
Like rn you can get a 13900k closer to 1000 unit msrp than one unit price
But well they said they are working on some automated benchmarking system
astral haven
who is on the credits page
shadow minnow
But well they said they are working on some automated benchmarking system
So I think that may be where some mistakes come from
There was a whole video about it
astral haven
adam and edzel are responsible for this
gusty kiln
Rip edzel
ashen spindle
anyone who does anything with cpu stuff knows a 12900k is not an i5 lmfao
shadow minnow
Let’s fire Adam and edzel
shadow minnow
anyone who does anything with cpu stuff knows a 12900k is not an i5 lmfao
Well ltt has so many employees some don’t, so may have been made by them
pale sigil
Ltt fuck yo again?
shadow minnow
Yes
ashen spindle
the big point about 5800x3d is literally the big l3 cache, how do you get that number wrong
shadow minnow
The LTT way
gusty kiln
Quality of their reviews were never super strong, but it's a new low
shadow minnow
To be fair with cyberpunk it wasn’t entirely their fault
Though they should have retested
Was a game bug
ashen spindle
a known one
shadow minnow
Gamer nexus talked about them encountering the same thing
ashen spindle
and you know what youtubers can do? check with other reviews if some number seems really off and do a double check that way
shadow minnow
True
astral haven
and you know what youtubers can do? check with other reviews if some number seem...
well not at that point
ashen spindle
no they can talk to others if they confirm that both parties are under NDA for it
astral haven
ah mistype
you said review not reviewers
ashen spindle
ah yes
true
also no, that is not closer to the 1ku pricing than the 1 unit msrp (mostly because the 1unit msrp does not really exist)
gusty kiln
Oof
regal inlet
Key my D key isn’t working on my keyboard. Does anyone know how I can fix it? (PlayStation)
Hey*
ashen spindle
like its a big difference if you say intel is 110$ cheaper or 40$ cheaper lmfao
ashen spindle
Key my D key isn’t working on my keyboard. Does anyone know how I can fix it? (P...
#1019755933959733258 if its a wooting keyboard
oh thats the name
yeah maybe that fear was valid lmfao
like I still think LTT is a great channel to get less tech savy nerds interested in the topic, doesnt mean with their size they should just get lazy with details lmfao
astral haven
yea its frankly embarassing
ashen spindle
and like, how do you mention in passing it can draw 350w but still phrase it that amd "needed"" to increase the powerdraw as something really bad ??
ashen spindle
what
reef patrol
Well there was a comment I wasn't expecting on LTT's new Intel video.
ashen spindle
I somehow doubt the 5800x3d is best for compiling the game even if its the best cpu for the gameplay
astral haven
I somehow doubt the 5800x3d is best for compiling the game even if its the best ...
the game code itself may be small enough to fit in the cache lel
cursive summit
Couldn't that just be cause of AV1?
They are using AV1 and isn't Zen not good at all in that
astral haven
no
ashen spindle
?????
ashen spindle
ok well it uses it, but its not the same thing
one is a video codec the other is an x86 extension set
but regardless of that, even if it would not be the case that av1 loves cache, why would the 5600x be that much faster
like no matter how you spin it, that data just doesnt make sense
astral haven
Yap
cursive summit
but regardless of that, even if it would not be the case that av1 loves cache, w...
Throwing a random guess out there, clock speed?
astral haven
It's really atrocious to do this the video after your CEO apologies for a review data mistake
astral haven
Not that much
cursive summit
I searched for similar tests and the 5800X3D is really fast
Something is up with recent LTT methodology
ashen spindle
4 minutes slower on 2 more cores with higher tdp but 100mhz or so lower boost?
nah
like I still think labs is a really good idea and they have the resources to take the old anandtech bench and make a really big list to compare almost every cpu/gpu in different things, but man what a rocky road
ashen spindle
the mistakes they had in the 4090 video
astral haven
ok actually it was 3 videos ago in the keyboard testing video
ashen spindle
wait another thing? lmao
astral haven
no that was when he appologized
ashen spindle
ahhh
ashen spindle
and a lot worse at that lmao
astral haven
eh
wouldnt say that
the graph showing the 4090 being 4x or whatever everything else was worse imo
these are smaller mistakes, just alot more of them
ashen spindle
I mean one mistake they didnt notice vs multiple that more people could've found? like I think more people could've noticed anything about the multiple wrong data tables than people would know if the results are accurate
and then they have weird results again too
gusty kiln
Mark Bench needs a code review
ashen spindle
the software didnt make the info graphics
and what the handbrake result is, might be software caused, but still should've been human reviewed
also, bios issues! https://twitter.com/aschilling/status/1583164015013830656
gusty kiln
With the amount of projects they have, i can see them being stretch thin on actual reviews
ashen spindle
if you literally just had a review that cause the ceo having to apologize, you dont skimp on QC for the next one lmfao
astral haven
its also review month
ashen spindle
also newegg back at it again https://www.reddit.com/r/pcmasterrace/comments/y8y03x/hey_guys_check_out_my_new_4090_side_note_newegg/
gusty kiln
Saw that, yikes
ashen spindle
pretty sure steve must be thinking "could you please have waited till after the current hardware cycle to fuck something up again"
gusty kiln
This happens with Amazon too, but i think their policies are better
Never had a problem personally so never had to use it
crimson wigeon
But I thought only AMD had those kinds of issues!
astral haven
im not aware of amd shipping people metal blocks instead of products
crimson wigeon
This is re: BIOS
ashen spindle
well it seems to be an asus issue not an issue in the intel provided blob
astral haven
But I thought only AMD had those kinds of issues!
everyone always has week 1 issues
and it usually takes them a few weeks to fix the last gen boards
the difference is intel's few weeks means 2-5
and amds means 2-50
thick elk
As for reviewers having issue with it, the memory was stuck on 4000mt/s for Phoronix.
ashen spindle
asus boards too?
thick elk
Yup
ashen spindle
maybe all just the same issue then
thick elk
"ASUS ROG STRIX Z690-E GAMING WIFI" to be precise
and for him Alder Lake works just fine on the same mobo + ram
junior ore
they probably got it from the market place third/second party sellers. like how amazon has it.
newegg should hav never done made that.
cause now you can get in scammers as sellers ina legit market.
ashen spindle
4090 is out for like a week, idk if a scalper even had time to relist it
astral haven
they prelist sometimes
as in they list as if they have the product but they dont
then they order it
and "sell it"
ashen spindle
sure but in this case the guy got a legit box
astral haven
yea
thick elk
Buy it day 1 in store, take a photo day one, list it day one
astral haven
in this case the scammer bought the card, swapped it for some weights, then sent the user the box
ashen spindle
and got lucky that he got the box he put on the listing? I guess
astral haven
wdym?
ashen spindle
its a gigabyte box, so if he listed an image, he had to be lucky to get that gigabyte card to sell it empty then
astral haven
probably listed multiple and shipped them out as they arrived
gusty kiln
Lol
frozen ingot
newegg speedrunning their way into bankruptcy?
gusty kiln
That's why you always see a rosewill product in their weird bundles
reef patrol
That's why you always see a rosewill product in their weird bundles
Them and everyone else.
thick elk
Rosewill is just a rebrand of some white label chinese stuff as far as I know.
ashen spindle
meanwhile one mistake in the GN video and its a smaller difference that could've looked real since it wasnt outrageous is already adressed lel https://twitter.com/GamersNexus/status/1583187113201512448
Twitter
shadow minnow
Any word from ltt on their mistakes yet?
ashen spindle
heh I just realized I had a email scheduled from last year for november 5th with hardware predictions form last november
shadow minnow
heh I just realized I had a email scheduled from last year for november 5th with...
What were they?
ashen spindle
ashen spindle
based on the average from HUB yes
shadow minnow
True
ashen spindle
if the last part is true we weill see soon
obv some things changed but always interresting to see how accurate some predictions are so far out
junior ore
what mistake have they done this time?
ashen spindle
what
vagrant pagoda
i just watched that
vagrant pagoda
i dont think a human ever used them
empty wren
wheat plume
got to basically fucking fish them out and hope they dont drop
vagrant pagoda
Anybody know is it safe to touch the top caliper screws?
yes
its to hold a mesasurement
empty wren
Well I just want to make them a bit smoother
They feel like they have quite a bit of preload and then I feel grinding a bit in some places
wheat plume
the drivers had to downloaded from Google Drive and installed in 2 separate parts
sounds sketch
empty wren
it should be loose
I mean the top large screw is loose but like I have to apply a bit of pressure to move em
vagrant pagoda
could be new
empty wren
Oh wait so they grind out and smoothen then?
vagrant pagoda
good ones are always smooth
cheap ones arent
in the two small holes on top are two more screw
astral haven
my super cheap ones were extremely smooth lel
empty wren
Well I mean they are mostly smooth
astral haven
my super cheap ones were extremely smooth lel
they slide around on their own and dont have a screw
vagrant pagoda
all mine are mitutoyo
empty wren
Mine do not slide on their own
vagrant pagoda
dont ahve that ikssue lol
empty wren
I have to apply a bit of pressure
astral haven
does it feel like suction? grease? or metal on metal
astral haven
dont
vagrant pagoda
I did not put any grease in them
dont
astral haven
but there could be residue from machining?
vagrant pagoda
if its not a gritty grind
astral haven
if its not metal on metal feeling dont worry about it
vagrant pagoda
then nothing
astral haven
probably not
empty wren
Okay then
astral haven
if you just bought them, talk to support (since they seem expensive enough to warrant having support)
empty wren
Alright then
I tried mituyos from someone and they felt less smooth than these
Both of them seem to have some sticky spots in some places though
astral haven
Just ordered these
Steam deck gaming in bed here I come
wheat plume
I would love those but so much money ;-;
astral haven
i justified it by finding some more uses for it
gusty kiln
vagrant pagoda
i just hate that its wired
astral haven
i just hate that its wired
have fun making it wireless lmao
wheat plume
it kinda has to be wired
astral haven
thats not what this is
wheat plume
is the Light model the same but cut corners to bring the price down?
vagrant pagoda
older tech
astral haven
is the Light model the same but cut corners to bring the price down?
they also have 6dof which is better and a wider fov
the air is 90hz not 60 tho
The reason I ordered them tho is this
Wacom Link Plus https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1435348-REG/wacom_ack42819_link_plus_for_cintiq.html
vagrant pagoda
The reason I ordered them tho is this
Wacom Link Plus https://www.bhphotovideo.c...
?
astral haven
This would allow you to use them with a USB c to dp and charging hub with the steam deck
gusty kiln
otherwise you need a compatible phone
astral haven
The nreal hdmi adapter has a built in battery so you can't use it perpetually
astral haven
ofc
astral haven
thats what it is
vagrant pagoda
i forget the sd only has one port lol
vagrant pagoda
but still a 3.5mm lol
astral haven
its not a good 3.5
vagrant pagoda
it really should of have dual usb
astral haven
i use a usb c dongle with it
vagrant pagoda
even if the second was only usb 3 with pd in
vagrant pagoda
dont think you can do pd with 2
astral haven
you can do pd without any actual data link
you need usb 2 worth of pins tho
usb c ofc
the other thing i bought it for is flying my fpv drone
i can get an hdmi feed from my drone if i want, so with this i can legally fly it alone (laws here require line of sight to the drone always)
a spotter is allowed but i dont have any friends lel
gusty kiln
@vagrant pagoda what do you do to bypass 3.3v on shuck drives? Tape mod or Molex to Sata adapter?
vagrant pagoda
Cut the 3.3 line on the sata harness lol
gusty kiln
hmmm
vagrant pagoda
Even my sata ssds don't need 3.3
I have it connected on the nvme, but idk if they need it
gusty kiln
ahh, think ssd don't have the problem
valid sentinel
any ones order stuck on "mass production"?
astral haven
if you are talking about wooting, youll want to go to #1019755933959733258
gentle bramble
#tech my wooting one keyboard wont update to the new update does anyone know what i can do to get it out of yellow to green
astral haven
if you are talking about wooting, youll want to go to <#1019755933959733258>
again
gentle bramble
ok thanks
shadow minnow
https://youtu.be/todoXi1Y-PI
Well they kinda are
cursive summit
And Intel has the benefit of having a generation old motherboards on sale as well as supporting DDR4
ashen spindle
would call that midrange and not lower end for >300$ cpus
cursive summit
AMD will have a shit ton of competition this generation until X3D launches
Well I have 0 regrets just recently getting a 5600X after the 3600 died
shadow minnow
would call that midrange and not lower end for >300$ cpus
True
latent mural
i dont understand how people more than$2000 on a pc
stark bobcat
I have even less regrets about my 5600 😄
shadow minnow
i dont understand how people more than$2000 on a pc
I don’t think it’s just up to 2000
latent mural
i typed wrong
shadow minnow
Well it’s rather easy when 4090 itself is almost 2000$
stark bobcat
bruh
latent mural
wha
ashen spindle
also where are the ddr vs ddr5 charts
cant say just get ddr4 on rpl without saying how much performance that costs
shadow minnow
True
But well you still save money with getting a last gen mobo and ddr5
ashen spindle
sure but does it even beat zen3 then at the same price?
shadow minnow
With ddr4 may not
With ddr5 and last gen mobo probably
But well, not enough benchmarks out yet
ashen spindle
cheapest last gen board for rpl is like 110, zen 3 I can get b450 board for 65
ram price the same
and 13600k is almost same price as 5800x3d
wheat plume
🤔
vocal cipher
yep, that annoyed me when I first noticed too 🙂
wheat plume
BRUH HOW BAD WAS HIS CODE????
He wrote a python script to do shit with words
it took 32 DAYS to compute everything
then a few days later, members of the community rewrote it a lot and got it down to 0.006761 seconds in C++
HOW???
HOW WAS THE CODE THAT SHIT?
misty saffron
He wrote a python script to do shit with words
it took 32 DAYS to compute everyt...
whenever my code runs THAT slowly i instantly start thinking i’m doing something terribly wrong
need to watch the video first
wheat plume
32 days to under 10 milliseconds
halcyon moss
i dont know which is new
halcyon moss
looks fine to me
cursive summit
It always looked like that
Oh the text app
I was looking at the calls
Wtf is google text app
wheat plume
the default texting app on stock android
reef patrol
I assume their pendant to iMessage?
halcyon moss
sms app
cursive summit
the default texting app on stock android
Technically every android distro comes with its own
wheat plume
I assume their pendant to iMessage?
yes and no... it has RCS but I dont use it because if you text someone who has RCS enabled but not connected to wifi when you text them, the text doesnt get delivered to them 🤦♀️
wheat plume
Technically every android distro comes with its own
hence, stock + pixel + global Xiaomi phones
halcyon moss
its my 2fa bin :p
wheat plume
its my 2fa bin :p
same.. xd
halcyon moss
i never use normal texting.
2fa and delivery notifications are the only thing that ends up there
..yes
but a lot of things do not allow that
reef patrol
Topt?
wheat plume
Yeah, I was thinking, surely it costs a lot for websites to send texts almost constantly
halcyon moss
timed one time password
wheat plume
huh?
halcyon moss
google authenticator, authy that stuff
halcyon moss
andotp 😉
dont stuff your otp in your password manager, that kinda defeats its whole purpose
oooh new kernel update, maybe Bluetooth will work :p
and the fan will spin up again after a suspend
ahhh.. linux life
halcyon moss
yeah, but the kernel needs to support it
the "older" kernel in pop os didnt. new one should
wheat plume
especially pairing a damn XBOX controller... it always reconnects when powered back on everytime
I need to often remove and repair the controller on Windows 🤦♀️ how can Microsoft not get pairing a controller they make with the OS they make right??!?
halcyon moss
going from 5.19.0 to 5.19.16
wheat plume
support what?
halcyon moss
bluetooth
wheat plume
im so confused
is there a specific feature you want that is just added in that kernel or what?
wheat plume
o..
my adapter is part of the wifi card, which is intel so its usually working fine on Linux
halcyon moss
yaay its working
wheat plume
wwwwooooo
nice nice
What data about your Microsoft account can a third party Minecraft launcher get when you login to it?
I wanna know if its safe to use a microsoft account on them, I know it uses the official Xbox login for all of them, pops up a small window, the same as playing any official microsoft / xbox game like Forza
halcyon moss
ok, so
polymc used oauth (or something similar)
when you click login, you are directed to the ms login, enter a code polymc provided, and polymc is only authorized for minecraft
wheat plume
so they cant get anything other than what is on your minecraft accoutn such as skin file and UUID and username?
halcyon moss
polymc never got your password, only a authorization token to retrieve stuff they got access to
wheat plume
ok
good
so its safe to login to a third party launcher then? they just get very limited info?
halcyon moss
only minecraft data.
wheat plume
cool
ok
I wonder if Microsoft are preventing Mojang from fixing the bug on the official launcher
The one that prevents it from storing log credentials
so that people dont play their game on Linux and only on Windows instead (IF installed via Flatpak)
halcyon moss
doubt it
wheat plume
it only affects the Flatpak version , but thats still a lot of users due to the Steam Deck and its also the most common one to show up in a graphical app manager like discover and gnome software
halcyon moss
seems like a flatpack issue then
wheat plume
its not
The launcher needs gnome-keyring or the newest version of kwallet to store credentials
halcyon moss
yeah, flatpack issue
wheat plume
and that is not on Flatpak, so that must be installed via the distro package manager
halcyon moss
or the flatpack version of minecraft
halcyon moss
flatpack is nice for a lot of things... but keyring? that'd better be already installed as a normal package! 😮
also, is it just me or are flatpacks HUUUGE?
wheat plume
they are huge
they need all the dependencies required WITH them
so if two flatpaks need the same dependencies, they are installed twice, one version for each flatpak
junior ore
whats going on?
ashen spindle
while it looks massive on the image
wonder if its not the same as some of the AiB coolers we have now lmfao
44mm height + fan height surely is smaller than some of the 4 slot cards that are 2.5kg
vagrant pagoda
https://videocardz.com/newz/raijintek-morpheus-8069-vga-cooler-for-amd-rx-6000-n...
So want
I have the Morpheus 2
And it will cool a 1080ti Xtreme fanless in my torrent with just the front 180s
My issue with it is vram temps
Not a lot of room for vram sinks
More room off the PCB will fix that.
The odd think is, one image shows heatsinks on vram
Then another image shows the cold plate is big enough to over vram
ashen spindle
wonder if the result looks like 2x3 or 3x3 mcd layouts
astral haven
i hope thats wrong and the original leaks are correct
original leaks say 64b of infinity fabric on the mcd, with the imc being on the core
and 64mb of cache per mcd
tho i suppose 64mb of cache and a mem controller would also be fine
ashen spindle
it seems there could be two variants
each containing 16MB of Infinity Cache and the GDDR6 controllers with 64-bit wide PHYs. The organic fanout layer has a 35-micron bump pitch, the densest available in the industry. There is a 3D stacked MCD also being productized (1-hi) using TSMC’s SoIC. While this doubles the Infinity Cache available, the performance benefit is limited given the cost increase. Thus, the main Navi31 SKU will have 96MB of Infinity Cache (0-hi)
so perhaps a 7900xt Ti or so later heh
cursive summit
Interesting take on the situationhttps://twitter.com/_rogame/status/1583399279523401729
Twitter
R7 starting with 12 or 10 cores sounds.. possible
astral haven
you say that but 5 cores has...
ashen spindle
what model
astral haven
was a china model
cursive summit
10 cores happened fairly recently, 10900K
ashen spindle
ok but intel is not amd
astral haven
^
ashen spindle
intel does not make 8core CCDs
cursive summit
I remember hearing of 5, but can't recall where
astral haven
i also highly doubt they will sell it mainstream, but its possible
cursive summit
Ah I see where I heard this from https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pMGd5jK3xMQ
ashen spindle
yes 5 on amd side is more likely since it could fill some special niche, like arcades or something in china or some custom order and they just have some leftovers
but 10 wouldnt make sense from any point
ashen spindle
like the reason intel is looking good with 13th gen mid range parts is they are giving up on margins lmfao
amd isnt just giving away bad margin configurations
astral haven
yea and amd is making bankaroo here
cursive summit
cursive summit
At least it's not 6X
Makes it somewhat believable, there were some early leaks saying AMD will not use 6X memory
astral haven
🤷 yea amd is pretty incompetent at making imcs, and g6x is haaaaaaard
ashen spindle
no need to get a non jedec spec memory when infinity cache goes brr
astral haven
no need to get a non jedec spec memory when infinity cache goes brr
your rumor says less cache than last gen tho
ashen spindle
it just goes brrr faster with higher clocks
also I think g6x is only made by micron still so would likely increase cost for not really any benefit
and risk of another shortage of components again
crimson wigeon
It's time for HBM to make a comeback
astral haven
hbm l4 hype
cursive summit
Tf is muppet doing again
HBM been getting cheaper as well last I read
I think it was Samsung who have been investing into mass manufacturement costs
astral haven
HBM been getting cheaper as well last I read
the chips itself arent the problem
cursive summit
Like, on paper, isn't HBM outright superior memory tech than DDR?
astral haven
no
cursive summit
Isn't it faster, more scalable?
astral haven
its slower but higher bandwidth
it would make sense tho with huge caches
tho modern imcs are getting crazy close
astral haven
the chips itself arent the problem
nyways the expensive part of hbm is the whole needing a gigantic substrate
6 mcds with 64mb of l3 and a 1024b hbm controller each would be pog tho
id be happy to pay for a 7970xt at 2k with 48gb or even 24gb of hbm with 2.7TB/s of memory
its such a shame they arent going glue for consumers yet tho
id love a 7990 dual die
and if they go 7990xt and it has 1 compute die i will write many angry emails
ashen spindle
There were early plans for a version with 288MB of Infinity Cache (2-hi), but this was shelved as the cost-benefit was not worth it.
well they are looking into what works
astral haven
This is more hype
where its just cache and infinity fabric on the mcds so they can have a higher capacity of cache
ashen spindle
some people really want to comit arson smh
astral haven
nah
tbh these vrms are hella overkill
just disappointing for the obscene price
that specific board can handle spikes to 1360w
and its missing 8 stages and using the worst allowed stages
the strix (best so far) is 2040w spike max
either of those would probably cause the core to shatter
shadow minnow
tbh these vrms are hella overkill
Not all. Gamerock board is pretty bad, VRMs can get pretty hot.
Never look at max VRM amp rating too, they can’t really handle that, even their data sheets never show temps at that value.
At 600w of card power Gamerock Vrm May produce over 60w of heat
astral haven
Not all. Gamerock board is pretty bad, VRMs can get pretty hot.
Never look at ma...
spikes is not continuous power
shadow minnow
Yes but still
astral haven
spike rating is spike rating
the number that techpowerup found to be 680w and that video found to be about 660 may be as high as 1350 safely
shadow minnow
Even then, the VRMs are not really overkill, on 600w they actually produce solid ammount of heat
ashen spindle
Not all. Gamerock board is pretty bad, VRMs can get pretty hot.
Never look at ma...
ok you dont need to paraphrase an entire video from buildzoid when the same card is tangentially being spoken about
shadow minnow
But it was a good video
astral haven
Even then, the VRMs are not really overkill, on 600w they actually produce solid...
its not overkill for the custom 600w bios sure
its highly sufficient tho
and thanks to the voltage limit, its definetly quite safe
its only "horribly disappointing for 1600"
shadow minnow
its highly sufficient tho
True, just not for watercooled OC, if you don’t plan to OC at all don’t have to care tbf.
But like 600w isn’t impossible on these cards
shadow minnow
its only "horribly disappointing for 1600"
Well FE costs the same and Is better in basically every way
astral haven
True, just not for watercooled OC, if you don’t plan to OC at all don’t have to ...
thats incorrect
without volt mod and custom bios it doesnt draw that much for more than a few ms
shadow minnow
It could still get really hot without
astral haven
Well FE costs the same and Is better in basically every way
its also less available and smaller
astral haven
It could still get really hot without
it doesnt
The gamerock does have lower temps than fe noise normalized
astral haven
the vrm has direct contact with the main heatsink
It's overkill stock and it's just about fine with a custom bios
And it's the worst vrm available so far
astral haven
just wait a week
ashen spindle
that and its month old info anyway
astral haven
nowhere because the fe rattles hardcore at max fan
yea might have been gn's
gn has good testing for temps and power
and their testing is highly accurate and consistent
the problem is their testing isnt realistic, but that is how games be
tpu does
i dont think gn tests as many models as tpu
its very easy to predict...
ashen spindle
oh yeah there is
that's good, showing they do still manage to make whql drivers shortly before rdna3 lmfao
chrome estuary
i know y'all are talkin about a lot of modern tech.
ashen spindle
oh I'm still on the january drivers lmfao
chrome estuary
but i've been watching Fully Buffered and remembering some nostalgia
like seeing things on the first GTX Titan and dreaming of being able to have one.
ashen spindle
well I only really got into pc around the pascal launch so not much for me to be nostalgic about yet
chrome estuary
I really only got into real PC gaming around Kepler.
I had a GTX 745, then a 760, then bumped straight up to a 1080 when I got a job. Then now a 3070ti.
stark bobcat
I mean I started pc gaming in like 2007 but I only started caring about the tech at turing release
chrome estuary
I watched a lot of NerdCubed back then. That fucker got I think either a dual Titan Black PC or Titan Z PC.
I remember there was the give away during the GTA 5 release for a dual Titan PC so it could run GTA 5 at 4k, touted at the time to be the only way to do it.
i fucking prayed and dreamed to get that thing but of course didn't
stark bobcat
Idek what my first graphics card was but I do remember my first pc being a windows 98 machine
cursive summit
Hold on a minute
Oh ffs
Cause apparently scam url
"Vertical Refresh Sync set globally to Always Off may cause system stuttering or driver timeout during video playback using Radeon™ RX 6000 series GPUs."
I have literally all the time sometimes on the RX 5700
I also have this frankly annoying ass glitch that is when your displays go to sleep mode and you reactivate them by pressing some random key on the keeb, the GPU driver crashes and keeps permanently crashing every 30s and throwing error messages
The system is also unstable af after that so restart is mandatory
stark bobcat
should have switched 5700 for 6700 when miners wanted them
cursive summit
Someone here offered me an RTX 3070 to swap for my card
They were into mining
The timing couldn't be shittier as the Nvidia leaks made it so that a software exploit made it that the LHR unlock was found
stark bobcat
sounds like sweet deal
frozen ingot
eww huawei
wheat plume
Why do the cheaper watches look visually nicer than most of the expensive AF ones?
ashen spindle
preference
wheat plume
this looks much nicer than this for me
ashen spindle
different style, so its preference ¯_(ツ)_/¯
one looks like an ipad shrinked down the other like an older mechanical watch
wheat plume
pink
cursive summit
That is not pink
wheat plume
this is more like off white, light beige
stark bobcat
isnt that what ppl typically call rose gold or smth
cursive summit
That's not rose gold artorias
stark bobcat
this looks like ass and rose gold looks like ass no difference to me
cursive summit
I'd rather have white gold
stark bobcat
I'd rather just have regular stainless steel
cursive summit
But yeah that is one disgusting ass colour
Apple did make though a bloody good looking pink product before
stark bobcat
I bought plenty of my own wristwatches and that is the only jewellery I ever wear
cursive summit
As much as I hate hot pink, that ipod looks solid
frozen ingot
I had the rose gold iphone 6 because it was the only version in stock when I got it
old plume
you can always just buy a pink phone case 🙂
pale sigil
But yeah that is one disgusting ass colour
it looks a lot nicer in person
stray flicker
thick elk
I am all for mobo makers making stuff like this.
Even though I would not buy it
cursive summit
reef patrol
What the fuck is up with that massive border edge.
reef patrol
I swear - Microsoft are the reason why we waste so much paper with such wide paper borders...and the line shifts 😄
wheat plume
What the fuck is up with that massive border edge.
Maybe they are the contextual areas like what already happen
If you select an image it'll show you image controls
Or if you select a grid it'll let you edit the grid
Etc
fair gull
I swear - Microsoft are the reason why we waste so much paper with such wide pap...
no book binding is a real waster of paper
especially the cutting of laminated paper
wheat plume
wheat plume
Had to remove a screw from the mobo...?? Dafuq
vagrant pagoda
Had to remove a screw from the mobo...?? Dafuq
That was common on early CB
They are way over reacting
It was easy, took 10 minutes.
If you couldn't follow a guide long enough to open it up. Then you didn't need to flash the os lol
The screw powered the bios write protect line.
Removing screw kill the bios and thus the cryptokeys for the OS.
cursive summit
They used a screw to short two circuits together?
Damn almost as if buttons don't exist
wheat plume
TMW you take apart a device and have one screw left over
INTENTIONALLY
vagrant pagoda
TMW you take apart a device and have one screw left over
INTENTIONALLY
Not even
On the Samsung I had there was a spot for it
shadow minnow
Not too different to having to short pins imo
vagrant pagoda
I mean is it really that mad no adays
Unless you have unsecured software open to the net
wheat plume
His first point is like
"If you think a hacker can get into your device if they know your ip, you are already screwed, cause they can just scan for the IP regardless"
you thought it was bad? It was worse!!!
He set up a Minecraft server, didnt tell anyone the IP and challenged people to find the IP and join it
a LOT of people managed to join xd
old plume
anyone know what this is about for amd build without ftpm enabled?
empty wren
I thought there was a server finder tool for Minecraft though
old plume
last week my pc still did not meet requirements to update to windows 11
wheat plume
how did you install 11 without fTPM? did you do that console command trick?
old plume
how did you install 11 without fTPM? did you do that console command trick?
i didnt update to windows 11
old plume
windows update is telling me to upgrade to windows 11 today
but i dont even have ftpm enabled in bios
so im a bit confused
did microsoft remove tpm requirement?
wheat plume
It also told me my PC was not compatible
Until I went into the BIOS and enabled fTPM manually, then it was l ike "Yay, you can upgrade"
old plume
good idea to even update to windows 11 for ryzen builds right now?
wheat plume
I have a Ryzen and its fine xd
its the motherboard that either supports fTPM or nor
not the CPU
shadow minnow
how did you install 11 without fTPM? did you do that console command trick?
Pretty sure you can just overwrite two values to allow you to ignore that.
Or well worked for me running it in vm on my mac
wheat plume
yeah, there is a console command you can run before the installer appears
assuming you can open console and run it fast enough
shadow minnow
I just had to overwrite some value in some file
wheat plume
oh?
shadow minnow
But also I think it also depends on your cpu, some CPUs have virtual tpms inbuilt
wheat plume
Go outside, have some grass
LiveOverflow - 2022
shadow minnow
Yeah I think I have used this
wheat plume
I cant find info on DS-LITE cause anytime I search with that term it tells me about the nintendo console .-.
pale sigil
Pretty sure you can just overwrite two values to allow you to ignore that.
Or we...
Rufus does it
ashen spindle
I cant find info on DS-LITE cause anytime I search with that term it tells me ab...
you know you can tell google to just ignore a word so if you ignore nintendo you wont get anything unwanted for it
wheat plume
you cant tell it to ignore ds lite when the nintendo console has the same name
ashen spindle
ignore nintendo
wheat plume
ashen spindle
so add -nintendo at the end
wheat plume
yeah, for most of them it would filter them out
ashen spindle
or just dont use the abbreviation an search with the full name
ashen spindle
and if you want to know if you have dualstack you just use a site that tests it instead of looking what your isp might do
like my isp is supposed to use ds lite as basis unless you manually ask for more, but somehow I still have regular old ipv4
vagrant pagoda
ipv6 on consumer stuff is still iffy
i have pfsense and a native ipv6 isp
and sometimes it still bugs out
reef patrol
D... does it matter? It's docked. You're going to be using a TV.
ashen spindle
yes, lisa su has
cursive summit
1199$
That's my guess for it
That we have no way of knowing
AIBs price theirs however they want
AMD's pricing we can try to guess
old plume
turned on ftpm and proceeded to update to windows 11
cursive summit
6950xt also launched far later than the main series
This time it appears we might be getting 7950xt on launch day
I'm guessing 1399$ for top end model
ashen spindle
6950xt is a also just a 6900xt binned better so basically the same card still
if the top rdna is xx50 or xx00 makes no impact
ok but thats also just some naming they arbitrarily chose
ashen spindle
look at the picture again...
but also yes its easy to see as a human, how would amazon filter them all out
pay a thousand people to do nothing but find scams and remove them? no incentive really
wheat plume
How do I make a Linux bootable USB Drive show up in Windows, I want to write a new ISO to it?
idk why I am surprised Balena Etcher is on winget
ashen spindle
well, 200 less if better hardware could be a step at least, though I obviously would prefer much lower prices
vagrant pagoda
And price their shit at like $1400
I mean 6950xt is 1200-1300 msrp
I think the reference was 1100 at launch but I didn't see too many
pulsar canopy
Hopefully it’s cheap and close to 4090 performance
ashen spindle
it has a fair shot to be just as good or slightly better
pulsar canopy
I mean the 4090 is a powerhouse
ashen spindle
so?
pulsar canopy
Don’t really know if amd is going to be able to match the 50% uplift compared to 3090ti/6950xt