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#🔌│tech
ashen spindle
misty saffron
that and “open world game” don’t really go together well
wheat plume
same here except the minimap staying glitched sometimes after the relic malfunctions
astral haven
🤷 eh
it wasnt a great game
just a good game lel
misty saffron
i recall on one mission i died like 5 times in 10 minutes because i stepped on some rock
stepped on a lego i guess
wheat plume
My favourite side story was River's, the missions to find the lost boy and rescue him
astral haven
stepped on a lego i guess
rip
realistic tho
wheat plume
Then Claire's is a close second
Second cause I hate how cars drive in that game
misty saffron
oh yeah car physics lmao
wheat plume
if I could do Claire's story missions on a motorbike, I would
but you have to use her gigantic pickup truck
misty saffron
almost forgor how all cars there have zero grip
wheat plume
YEP
misty saffron
and zero weight
wheat plume
and bikes have too much grip but get yeeted into the air at the slightest bump on the ground
misty saffron
oh nice they added modding support
wheat plume
yeh, its nice
if the mod needs an ingame settings page, they can add it to the mods option in the pause menu
misty saffron
have they fixed the minimap since?
wheat plume
no, still glitches a lot when the relic malfunctions for me
misty saffron
yes that's intended i guess
wheat plume
but it works fine other than that
misty saffron
i mean more of it being dick useless in vehicles
wheat plume
yes that's intended i guess
yes, but not AFTER that
it stays glitched well after the relic stops
got to reload the save to fix it
misty saffron
ah, fun
misty saffron
oh god it's 120 gigabytes...
misty saffron
yep
astral haven
download is smaller
misty saffron
gusty kiln
prob a miner
misty saffron
at least it was a shit estimate and not actually 1 hour
wheat plume
prob a miner
the entire size of the game itself is additional miners xd
astral haven
I am extremely confident its alot larger than 70gb
misty saffron
prob a miner
i'm not downloading the entire ethereum blockchain lol
wheat plume
then why is mine just 70? xd
gusty kiln
wheat plume
and the red launcher also says I have all the DLC installed too
misty saffron
the installation files are 108gb
wheat plume
gusty kiln
astral haven
maybe if you never deleted it and just kept updating it since launch its larger than if you just fresh install it
wheat plume
Yeah, Hollow is downloading some shady shit xd
wheat plume
idk, I installed it feb 16th
wheat plume
maybe if you never deleted it and just kept updating it since launch its larger ...
^
so I doubt that
cursive summit
Wasn't cyberpunk on a single CD disk as well
reef patrol
CD
cursive summit
And the cap for CDs is what, 60 or 70 gb?
reef patrol
compact disc
fair gull
And the cap for CDs is what, 60 or 70 gb?
700mb
reef patrol
You mean 6-700 MEGABYTES? 😄
cursive summit
Do they store games on Blu-Ray?
astral haven
yes
astral haven
and the biggest bluray is 150gb currently
fair gull
and both arent DVD
misty saffron
And the cap for CDs is what, 60 or 70 gb?
man the ps1 devs were missing out
cursive summit
I remember reading early Cyberpunk speculations a while ago
Something that the game will be 70gb max cause it's a single CD game
astral haven
lel
shadow minnow
“It will be the best game this century”
astral haven
single half density bluray
wheat plume
hhmm
misty saffron
a different question would be what the fuck are they doing if they have 30+ gb of audio
wheat plume
what was that one game that had to redownload the whole game again to change languages, so youd end up with the game installed twice in two languages
wheat plume
a different question would be what the fuck are they doing if they have 30+ gb o...
there is a FUCK TON of voice lines in the game
misty saffron
yes but not 30+ gb compressed
cursive summit
Does anyone remember Fallout 4 ultra HD pack?
That was a mess
Wasn't the recommended GPU on that shit like an RTX 2080ti?
misty saffron
vram issue
gusty kiln
well it is bethesda
ashen spindle
no its just big textures using lots of vram
misty saffron
and massively fucked up texture streaming code
misty saffron
why
cursive summit
And Fallout 5 will be made in Game Maker Studio
silk trout
fallout 5 made in the original doom engine
gusty kiln
only RPG I'm waiting for is Dragon Quest 12
ashen spindle
hey would at least mean people could fix it easier without having to decompile creation
misty saffron
i vividly remember adding code to my pubg cheat that fixed the game's performance
crisp granite
Does anyone remember Fallout 4 ultra HD pack?
yes
crisp granite
Wasn't the recommended GPU on that shit like an RTX 2080ti?
no lol
gusty kiln
https://www.audiosciencereview.com/forum/index.php?threads/dan-clark-expanse-headphone-review.37332/
wish I could find a place to try these
final flame
ah yes asr the best place to get audio info...
stark bobcat
Well not for headphone reviews anyway
ashen spindle
shadow minnow
The connector looks so small compared to the card
That card must be massive
No way that’s real scale
indigo delta
I'll skip 4000 series for 5000 series and jump to 4k 240hz from my current 1440p 240hz setup
ashen spindle
we have already pictures of the card so yes
indigo delta
No way that’s real scale
You should see der8auer's unboxing lmao people have been memeing a specific frame from that video
About how the April fool's joke became true
astral haven
The connector looks so small compared to the card
the 16 pin is the same width as 1 8 pin
its not a very large connector
and also its a full 3 slots
gusty kiln
ah yes asr the best place to get audio info...
I just use it for headphone measurement comparison
And asr is one of the few dan Clark actually sends headphones
For some reason
cursive summit
Oh crap got an email from valve
Steam Deck is now available for purchase without a reservation!
astral haven
yes we were talking about this yesterday
cursive summit
They stepped up the supply quite a bit
somber schooner
i need a 5090 for 1080p
astral haven
im really sad that amd skipped 6000 for cpu
i wanted to get a 6950x to go with my 6950x and my 6990 and 690
astral haven
not boxed cpus
stark bobcat
True
astral haven
i suppose ill have to go intel for my 6950x
stark bobcat
Maybe they'll do something janky with the apus again
stark bobcat
Well they have integrated graphics but I don't think amd calls them apu might be wrong
astral haven
idgaf the display outs work and they are faster than the a3 series lmao
stark bobcat
I'm just looking forward to the full fat apus they could make a lot of people very happy
astral haven
i really hope they go for chiplet apu not just laptop chips
ashen spindle
dont see that happen this gen
astral haven
i know its not gonna happen but im hoping stfu
ashen spindle
astral haven
i think tho my system technically has an igpu with my 5950x
ipmi apparently has video out without igpu?
ashen spindle
I mean you can run crysis on it with software rendering so sure
chrome estuary
i want a trashcan mac.
astral haven
i would but im allergic to radeon
apple avoiding mxm like the plague is rather annoying
chrome estuary
i like weird tech and i want it for what i'm going to call a "Collection"
astral haven
its not that weird tho...
chrome estuary
yeah i know but i'm gonna call it weird because it's just a dumb shape and is 'lovingly' known as the trashcan.
gusty kiln
astral haven
get a g4 cube mac
gusty kiln
Find one of these
chrome estuary
ngl i want a g4 cube
astral haven
Find one of these
was never produced
gusty kiln
I know, wonder who has the prototype
astral haven
this is the prototype that I would be interested in
gusty kiln
oh yeah the hotswap pc
chrome estuary
eugh
chrome estuary
i remember that vaguely
gusty kiln
modular smart phone
astral haven
I remember they hype for this
they realized it was a terrible idea
gusty kiln
yeah
astral haven
just give us a fkn removeable battery tho please
gusty kiln
imagine the amount of RMA because the contacts were dirty
astral haven
help i lost my cpu
gusty kiln
astral haven
samsung s5 battery was fine for me
the g5 wasnt waterproof and the chin fell off on my friend's
gusty kiln
ooof
astral haven
never got a chance to use it myself, but a friend of mine did and he really loved it
gusty kiln
the back attachments were cool, but think they were rather expensive at the time
astral haven
afaik they were comparable price to the accessories would be if they were just usb
motorola why
the edge 30 ultra has a 200mp main camera
and a 12 megapixel 2x optical zoom
2x crop on the main sensor is 50 megapixels
🤦
astral haven
I want someone to do dual 200 megapixel sensors
1 ultrawide that you crop in to like 100 megapixels for your main camera
and 1 telephoto that is 9x optical from the ultrawide
so like 5x optical
actually no make that 4x optical to make it 105mm equiv
wheat plume
The Intel GPUs are so tempting
But if you play games that don't use DirectX 12, you are fucked :/
vagrant pagoda
i will likely buy one once plex dose av1 hardware
wheat plume
Oh hmm
misty saffron
@astral haven well shit like this still happens i guess
jackie just decided to go on foot i guess
astral haven
Yea tbh I haven't played cyberpunk since patch 1.2
deft marlin
whats this?
astral haven
Really cool looking pc concept
deft marlin
(code)name?
astral haven
It was dual fury in crossfire tho so it probably wasn't ever gonna work
Literally look at the picture
Top left
misty saffron
codename funny box
true quest
wheat plume
Ikr
Got my reservation in
vagrant pagoda
So looking though x670es
MSI has zero m.2 pcie switching somehow
The pcie slots run 16-0-4 or 8-8-4, but the m.2 always run.
So I guess they only have a single off the cpu
astral haven
Well yes?
stark bobcat
getting some coil whine on my gpu time for new psu?
ashen spindle
find the part that makes it and put glue on it so it moves less lmfao
think asus did that on some cards a while ago lmfao
ah was powercolor
stark bobcat
so far I have only noticed it on 1 rocket league workshop map but not while playing the actual game very weird
stark bobcat
hmm maybe I should just cap fps to 240
shadow minnow
Looks like 4090s listed for in between 2000-2300€
Or well website I am looking at doesn’t say prices but if I filter by price ranges it works
ashen spindle
well yeah, we've known the price for like 2 weeks now
ashen spindle
well nothing was going to be below msrp
shadow minnow
True but question is how much above
Tbf the retailer I am checking usually is more expensive than most.
But looks like it won’t be too bad for launch. Considering current €$ exchange rates 
May actually go for a GPU with only one HDMI 2.1 😦
ashen spindle
https://twitter.com/david_schor/status/1578720427257438208 another timely topic why I call it wcctrash
Twitter
that 's the original article, some cool risc-v news from the intel event
cursive summit
Heyo @stark bobcat
I think I might have localized the problem after all with the PC
It was the Intel 660p after all
stark bobcat
lol
cursive summit
I removed it from PC completely like Carmonben said
And it booted into Tails live USB without much issue
I still fail to sometimes get it to show any video signal though, which is weird
But that's prolly due to it just now having anywhere to boot to begin with and shouldn't be a problem?
So I guess I'll be ordering a new SSD and a new motherboard cause this one causes me a lot of problems
Maybe the SSD was fine all along, and it was just the motherboard, who knows
I have weird issues with this TUF board from time to time, like enabling/disabling settings, saving them and the motherboard fails to save them and just undos all changes
tropic nacelle
I have weird issues with this TUF board from time to time, like enabling/disabli...
Have you tried latest bios for your motherboard?
Also have you checked the SMART output for the SSD? should normally report fundamental issues.
Worth checking Intel drivers as well for it.
cursive summit
Have you tried latest bios for your motherboard?
Also have you checked the SMAR...
Yes, I have the latest drivers to no avail
Intel drivers?
Tf do I need Intel drivers for
It's a B450
vagrant pagoda
find the part that makes it and put glue on it so it moves less lmfao
if you are doing this and want it to last
get a good alkoxy RTV
hotglue wont last on a gpu
most rtv silcones are acid releasing
if you get alkoxy silicone it releases alcohol on cure
my goto is ford's high temp RTV
TA-31
just about every US auto parts store will carry it
crisp granite
whats this GPU like compared to a nvidia GPU?
midrange mobile from last gen
wheat plume
2060 mobile?
wheat plume
eternal
crisp granite
both incredibly well optimised games that would run on anything modern
wheat plume
cyberpunk, medium, 1440p 60-90FPS
crisp granite
Eternal runs on a switch ffs
crisp granite
cyberpunk, medium, 1440p 60-90FPS
most likely with FSR
and medium settings is quite easy to hit in cyberpunk
it's just all the whackjobs that go "smh cyberpunk runs like shit on my 2060" at 4k high
wheat plume
CPU is more important for that game
crisp granite
my R5 3600XT keeps up wonderfully with my RTX 3070
I don't really think it's the CPU, Lana
the only game I've played where the CPU is what's holding me back is minecraft
wheat plume
minecraft 🤔
wheat plume
👀
crisp granite
@hardy idol 
crisp granite
you may not, but pepperidge farms Anders remembers
wheat plume
crisp granite
Duckberg had some really wonky market prices that day
ashen spindle
keep in mind mobile on nvidia is always a bit worse due to lower power than the desktop card with the same name
reef patrol
It never financially recovered from the roast chicken incident.
ashen spindle
so not a lot better than lanas pc, I'd say around 20% in gpu power
shadow minnow
o.o it shows the engraving
pale sigil
thats cool
cursive summit
whats this GPU like compared to a nvidia GPU?
Instead of listening to doge, https://www.notebookcheck.net/AMD-Radeon-RX-6600M-GPU-Benchmarks-and-Specs.515469.0.html
Per ntc, similar to laptop 3060
Which is very solid perf
ashen spindle
its literally what doge said
cursive summit
Better to check the benchmarks that are provided by notebookcheck
I always liked that website for some reason
ashen spindle
ok but when you say "instead of that look at this" and it's the same result..
cursive summit
Doge also said "2060 mobile" when per testing it's more similar to 3060
crisp granite
I get something right for once and Vexx can't accept it
which I totally understand
but still, the evidence is there
slow garnet
SteamCMD has issues with staying logged in for a long time it seems like. At least, for the downloads. Downloads which would take ~10s might take over 60s. Logging in and out/restarting every hour seems to resolve it.
Might also be related to the amount of downloads.
wheat plume
o.o it shows the engraving
How they make that happen??
crisp granite
How they make that happen??
considering engraving is a special thing done on a device by device basis you need to order online
it's likely included in the airpods' firmware or in the handshake with the other apple devices
ashen spindle
or since its something you select online they just take that and put an icon of the thing they engrave on the image
person orders with owl icon, order shows owl icon
pale sigil
SteamCMD has issues with staying logged in for a long time it seems like. At lea...
Weird
but are you using anon?
or user login
wheat plume
considering engraving is a special thing done on a device by device basis you ne...
That sounds like a really difficult thing to implement on production lines
Got to keep track of each engraved one and who's it being sent to and what's on it
ashen spindle
no it's fairly easy and automated
the item is in the system with an id and can be tracked at any point where its relevant
wheat plume
Oh
crisp granite
or since its something you select online they just take that and put an icon of ...
it would need to be more than that with the option for memojis
ashen spindle
I mean not really, you select what you put on there and that gets saved online so if you see your order it knows what it should show
convert every option into a hash and you got a number stored with your account that gets read when the website displays your order
vagrant pagoda
It's all robots
They keep lids+booklets off
The airpods in the lower box has the SN already
The SN of your order gets paired with your engraving
Runs though the engraving machine
Robot puts lid on
Then it goes to shipping like a normal set.
Apple already records SN of all orders in it's store.
They already do that for mail theft. Have for years
So they already had system in place to scan sn for shipment
The real question is why don't airpods have blacklists like phones.
astral haven
Because airpods work without activation
You could just set airplane mode on your 0hone before pairing it
slow garnet
Weird
user login. anon exhibits same issue AFAIR. can't use anon regardless for what I'm doing
the best way i can describe it is that nothing will occur internet wise, until after a while, where it does do internet activity (normal behaviour).
it's not rate limiting either, or, if it is, it's a really shitty one (since restarting/logging out seems to resolve it).
On that note, SteamCMD will sometimes just refuse to download an item, with absolutely no reason. Retrying ~15 seconds later works. Just SteamCMD things...
shadow minnow
I mean not really, you select what you put on there and that gets saved online s...
It shows when I open the AirPod case, so it has to be in the AirPods somewhere
hardy idol
@reef patrol chimkems
cursive summit
Today will be hopefully the last day of fixing this damn rig
Got a new motherboard and a new SSD
If it can't boot into Windows with a fresh brand new Samsung 970 and a higher end mobo
Then I need to buy even more shit
stark bobcat
Which mobo did u get?
cursive summit
At that point it's processor that kicked the bucket probably, which would be really sad
cursive summit
Which mobo did u get? <:thonk:568526682110296066>
The only one which had 1 day delivery
ROG Strix B550-A Gaming
cursive summit
Seems like a really good mobo that
It's still ASUS but the product line is different
I really want to avoid the TUF line
stark bobcat
Ye that is a good one as far as I remember even tho I still hate asus
Tuf used to be good x58 tuf was great
cursive summit
I would have went Gigabyte, but the ASUS had tomorrow delivery
I found a Gigabyte B550 Pro-P for 130€
Which was a phenomenal deal
But delivery was Oct 20th at earliest
And I have a shit ton of studies nowadays so, no bueno
stark bobcat
I just bought the motherboard that wasn't asus and had the features I wanted for a good price which only asrock had
cursive summit
I heard too many bad things about ASRock
stark bobcat
My 2nd asrock board and I can't say I ever had issues first one was with a 2500k
cursive summit
For motherboards I'd want to go only for 1) EVGA 2)NZXT 3) Gigabyte
reef patrol
My 2nd asrock board and I can't say I ever had issues first one was with a 2500k
Same.
stark bobcat
Nzxt?
reef patrol
Have had ASRock all of Ryzen with no issues
cursive summit
Nzxt?
They actually make boards
Weirdly
I thought they died
But seemingly they still make motherboards
stark bobcat
They actually make boards
No they don't asrock makes thosr nzxt rebrands them
reef patrol
No they don't asrock makes thosr nzxt rebrands them
Wasn't it a chinese oem?
cursive summit
Only board I had so far that had no issues is a Gigabyte
cursive summit
ASrock is on the news afaik with a lot of tech issues
So while I was thinking of getting the B550 Steel Legend
I'd so much rather get an Aorus Pro
stark bobcat
Wasn't it a chinese oem?
At least the am4 ones are by asrock
cursive summit
The Gigabyte B550 boards are top end
reef patrol
🤔
stark bobcat
Idk I use asrock, a friend who I selected the parts for does too and no issues the only thing I've heard recently is the sticker thing
ashen spindle
if you want usb ports and are fine with bios issues that require some troubleshoot then gigabyte boards are fine
but I wouldn't call something with tons of known issues top end
cursive summit
Spec wise, B550 Gigabyte boards are universally called the best by most
VRMs are better than anything else, even X570s on the Aorus line
stark bobcat
Vrms for a 3600?
cursive summit
I guess that doesn't matter much for most, not even me since I don't OC
ashen spindle
yeah if you do XOC you dont care about having to rest the bios more anyway
and vrms on almost all boards work so them being better saves you maybe 2$ on power cost a years
cursive summit
Oh yeah the new mobo I got has an Intel lan chip
The one that has issues, as well
So I can't wait to see if I have ethernet disconnecting or not
stark bobcat
Why would u do that to yourself
cursive summit
Hey I only got a board that is good and delivers in 1 day
stark bobcat
I always just check what specs I want from a motherboard and see who offers it at the cheapest price
And isn't called biostar or asus
cursive summit
I think I read that the Intel chip only has issues with 2.5gbps ethernet, though
Mine's 1gbps
ashen spindle
yup
ashen spindle
not the cpu
cursive summit
So uh lads
This new motherboard comes with cool ass status LEDs
And uh, I put the Intel SSD into it, and it still bootcycles
But as it starts to bootcycle, CPU LED starts shining red
Meaning, CPU is having a problem
My thing has 4 status LEDs, DRAM, CPU, VGA and BOOT
It shines bright red on CPU when it bootcycles
So, does that mean dead CPU?
ashen spindle
why would you put the intel ssd in if you think that caused the issues
cursive summit
To see if the motherboard is what caused it
Seemingly, not
Shit it's a dead CPU
ashen spindle
?????
cursive summit
I took out the Intel and put in my live USB
It still bootcycles
Each time CPU status header shines
ashen spindle
try live usb after you reset the cmos and dont put the ssd in
cursive summit
Roger
I have these reset CMOS pins
How do you use those?
In the manual it says to short them with a screwdriver or other metal object
So I don't have to take out the battery, just short the 2 pins?
shadow minnow
I have had a temp sensor connected to reset cmos pins for a few days
ashen spindle
just take the battery out
cursive summit
Yep it bootcycles
shadow minnow
I remember when my Intel cpu died day one
Nothing, it wouldn’t even try to boot
So I wasn’t sure if it was mobo or cpu
cursive summit
Even with a clear CMOS and no M.2 in, it's bootcycling
shadow minnow
I got so far to remove cooler and hold my finger on the cpu to see if it’s getting warm
shadow minnow
Even with a clear CMOS and no M.2 in, it's bootcycling
Does anything appear on the screen?
But sounds like a dead cpu
Also you shouldn’t keep the clear cmos pins connected when booting
cursive summit
Currently I turned on Tails in troubleshooting mode, it seems to be doing its thing fine
So no restart yet
ashen spindle
should've ordered a cheap am4 cpu as well if you suspected either board or cpu to be dead
cursive summit
But as soon as it tries to boot the OS, it dies
shadow minnow
But as soon as it tries to boot the OS, it dies
Any artifacts on the screen with that?
cursive summit
Not yet
shadow minnow
Could always be ram
cursive summit
It seems to be trying to boot into Tails again after doing troubleshooting, taking its dear time though
No restart, but stuck on a loading screen
cursive summit
I already did, bexin
ashen spindle
that's already been all done
stark bobcat
@cursive summit buy 5600 and be done with it
shadow minnow
Can you get into bios?
stark bobcat
Then buy that one
cursive summit
Can you get into bios?
With no problem
shadow minnow
Try undervolting and underclocking
chrome estuary
5600 is a nice processor ngl
stark bobcat
Ye that's why I chose the 5600 it's a beast at 150€
ashen spindle
for all we know it could be your cooler having bad pressure so some pins aren't connecting
cursive summit
Try undervolting and underclocking
Bexin you are an hour late and a dollar short
I did everything wrong single RAM dims, running with no SSD, booting Live OS, messing with CPU clocks
All bootcycle on OS boot
stark bobcat
@cursive summit check if cpu multiplier goes lower on this motherboard
cursive summit
28 still
cursive summit
I dunno if the 3600 even can go under 2.8GHz
stark bobcat
I'm pretty sure it could
cursive summit
Yeah it's still dying on 2.8GHz
Maybe RAM?
It's cheaper to buy RAM than a new CPU
stark bobcat
ashen spindle
see if you can get a 3100 or something for 50 and a single 8gb ram stick and gl
if it wont work just return it
stark bobcat
Maybe RAM?
I'd put my money on the cpu being zhe issue at this point but not sure
ashen spindle
heat cycles, electron migration, could be a pin issue where something isn't connecting correctly
stark bobcat
Could be a few reasons
stark bobcat
Things expand and contract with temperature
stark bobcat
On the off chance it's voltage
The only way voltage would change anything would be increasing it
ashen spindle
could be pin not connecting in the socket correctly from bad pressure, psu is possible but idk how likely it is since it goes through the VRM anyway so shouldn't affect only one step
cursive summit
I also went through 2 different motherboards
I inspected the CPU, the pins are clean and not bent
Topside doesn't show any damage
ashen spindle
not all damage is visible/lack of contact not at all unless you look below the cpu while its in the socket lmfao
cursive summit
I also bought a Samsung 970 just cause I thought it was the Intel SSD that died
Do I try installing windows on it or something?
Maybe that'd somehow work
stark bobcat
you can try it if u like but I doubt it ll do much
ashen spindle
try a linux boot usb instead of the thing you have
cursive summit
I did
cursive summit
try a linux boot usb instead of the thing you have
This
This whole time
It bootcycles after I press "Boot Tails"
Pretty much it's motherboard screen -> menu for methods of booting -> press enter -> 2 secs of actual booting -> system restart
Each time the CPU LED status header starts to shine
ashen spindle
yeah try different parts I guess
cursive summit
I wish I could use my FX-8350 with this board
Why do they have to always change the motherboards
shadow minnow
The only way voltage would change anything would be increasing it
Not necessarily
shadow minnow
Maybe I'll try undervolting
And you said I am hour late
shadow minnow
Bexin you are an hour late and a dollar short
cursive summit
The voltage goes down with underclocking
So if underclocking didn't help, undervolting won't either
shadow minnow
Still try
cursive summit
Well I guess I'm getting a new processor and RAM
Cause RAM might be borked as well
5600X it is
vagrant pagoda
I wish I could use my FX-8350 with this board
memory controller lol
stark bobcat
I wish I could use my FX-8350 with this board
ewwwww fx
vagrant pagoda
https://youtu.be/dU0--0gyxks
should of ran 1c:2t at 2ghz
lower power and things work
cursive summit
No I don't have a PSU replacement
ashen spindle
can very well be the psu
vagrant pagoda
you can 100% boot into bios with a bad psu
cursive summit
So, the CPU header is broken?
ashen spindle
bios doesnt need full power draw to work correctly
cursive summit
On the off chance it is the PSU that's broken
As it is the cheapest part of my system, technically
I'd honestly be glad
But good PSUs don't cost super cheap either
80+ platinum PSUs are like 110€
vagrant pagoda
Get a good brand
They last for decade+
I only have seasonic and Silverstone
And all of them work still
cursive summit
I want to get Fractal Ion+ platinum
ashen spindle
isnt fractal just rebranding seasonic and highwall
vagrant pagoda
In think I own every revision of Silverstone's strider 1000w
vagrant pagoda
isnt fractal just rebranding seasonic and highwall
High-power not highwall
Fractals gold psu are seasonic
vagrant pagoda
High power is good
I think high wall is a cut rate
Trying to get people to confuse high-power and greatwall
ashen spindle
ahhh
vagrant pagoda
Which are both A grade PSU oems
GreatWall is Corsair's CX and TX
They are the best budget you can get.
ashen spindle
still confused why psu rebrands are a thing
well, to use brand in a place you arent visible sure
but why get a seasonic rebrand over seasonic
vagrant pagoda
It's more like seasonic will make psus for themselves the best with no sacrifice to quailty
But will built something for some one else under a different name with lesser components/testing
Or like Delta where you don't sell to consumers at all
or Enhance where you dont even put your name of products
only rebrand
ashen spindle
sure from the business side, but as a consumer who knows about it I dont think I'd ever get a rebranded seasonic
vagrant pagoda
exactally lol
thats why i only one seasonic highend units
and silverstone striders
striders are enchance
and seasonics highend units are seasonic
seasonics low end units are oddly not seasonic
ive litterally ocp triped a silverstone psu 1000 times lol
had a 1000w
though it was gpu OC being to much for like months
bought a killawatt
unit was pulling 1400w from the wall lol
ashen spindle
lmao
ashen spindle
why make death cord, just move to a better country
vagrant pagoda
i didnt want to install a 220v outlet thats all
i did eventually
its what i use now
we have 220v outlets here
even 15a ones
i actually got a dual 6-20p outlet
which is super rare here lol
all my minisplits are 220v
even though they are 5a
cursive summit
Anyways the one I want is Fractal's Ion+ 2 line
Which hopefully aren't rebrands
80+ platinum efficiency
Is 80+ gold good enough?
cursive summit
Realistically
By investing into 80+ titanium or platinum
Do you ever get ROI on those by paying more?
vagrant pagoda
the biggest advantage to high efficacy is longer lasting
ashen spindle
depends
gusty kiln
Fsp, delta, seasonic, anyone else make psu?
reef patrol
Superflower
ashen spindle
how much you save on raw electricity cost simply depends on how much you use, your cost and at what range your psu is delivering power at
vagrant pagoda
i think superflower and seasonic are the only oems that have thier own branded titanium
ashen spindle
for consumers yup, servers might be others that have that too
vagrant pagoda
i think the tx 1300/1600 will be my next psu
gusty kiln
Damn dropping 500+ on a psu
vagrant pagoda
unless silverstone dose a release with 12pin
vagrant pagoda
Damn dropping 500+ on a psu
my current $500 psu is like 5 years old lol
i still dont know how enhance makes psus so small lol
iron coyote
Gold's already very high quality imo but depends on your budget
ashen spindle
well the 80+white he has is not quality 
iron coyote
Anything's a considerable upgrade from White in that case LOL
cursive summit
well the 80+white he has is not quality <:havo:975821613415157860>
That's what the prebuilt came with
iron coyote
If you get your issue sorted out would be good to do a PSU test
ashen spindle
that is very flawed
its a curve not one % across all loads
and god I wish costs were anywhere close to only 0.1/kwh lol
ashen spindle
looks like you either got a flatrate or lucky, seems like new customers are getting quoted up to 55ct currently
ukraine war?
crimson wigeon
Europoors feelsbadman
ashen spindle
also wtf kinda psu were you looking at that only lasts 5 years lmao
warranty alone for seasonic is 10 years
ashen spindle
and 150€ more? you can find 850w platinum for a total price of that lmfao
now if you can find a 750w gold psu for 25, definitely take that deal lmao
stark bobcat
I wouldn't even spend that much on a psu altho I'm pretty sure over the last 10 years my gold psu has saved me a bunch of money
pale sigil
I got lucky
My psu was bundled with my 107ti
Saved a crap ton
I had the intent to get a GPU but it came with a pretty decent EVGA PSU
iron coyote
Eh just an estimation, I reckon seeing some Gold at 90% as well iirc
reef patrol
I dread having to replace my 700W Titanium from Seasonic
iron coyote
But it's more or less a 2% difference between
stark bobcat
again there is an efficiency curve to these things
iron coyote
Yep though in most cases the gap may not be big enough to justify the price difference
ashen spindle
the 50% non-redundant load minimum for gold is 90% so yes, I imagine every single one you saw had that 😛
stark bobcat
Yep though in most cases the gap may not be big enough to justify the price diff...
I don't think you understand what I mean
ashen spindle
otherwise it wouldn't get gold
again, it's a curve
different values at different points
fair gull
the rating only says it CAN output X % of its stated power
ashen spindle
also difference of 115V vs 230V values
also they are required to have higher powerfactor correction values at higher tiers as well
iron coyote
I'm guessing the curve is dependent on wattage ?
iron coyote
Ah I see
So if I understood correctly it would be ideal to match the top curve with your expected power draw ?
In terms of efficiency
ashen spindle
no it would ideal to have a powerdraw of around 50% of what your psu can do since the efficency curves are the best around that value
the different 80+ ratings just make higher and higher curves that a psu needs to meet or exceed to get the rating
iron coyote
Aah
So a PSU that's twice what you'd usually draw
Considering the highest load possible you'd be able to do ?
Trying to understand because this all is pretty interesting 😄
ashen spindle
around what you usually draw yes, with enough headroom if you do draw more
so for a game you never will hit 100% load on cpu on gpu at the same time but you still want some headroom for spikes
hasty star
Hi
iron coyote
Sup
shadow minnow
It depends on specific PSUs too, most provide exact curves
Sometimes the efficiency is best at 60% though above 80% is usually when it really goes down
iron coyote
Yeah I think I even saw a curve that had better efficiency at 40% even ?
ashen spindle
when that happens it's usually a model that's rated a bit higher/lower than it probably should
fickle ore
It's usecase specific as well, if all you do is discord-fighting and utube, you'll never need 2x ur peak transient load, because your modal usage will be closer to 0-20% load than 50% load.
ashen spindle
yeah but you cant really underspec your psu for that
and while the efficency is worse relatively when in that load area, the total amount of the difference becomes less relevant
2% less efficent at 50w powerdraw matters less than at 700W
fickle ore
yeah but you cant really underspec your psu for that
E.g if your max load is 700w, 1000w would be ok, so you'll be at 70 % max, but 50% load of the psu is closer to ~30 % usage where you're the most frequently
iron coyote
If you want to optimize probably better to run tests with different loads and compare I'm guessing 😄
fickle ore
But yeah, you might start gaming in the future, so getting one that is 2x is prob good for future-proofing. But for servers I imagine the calc is a bit more complex
astral haven
Nah it's easier when everying is running full bore 24/7
ashen spindle
well it depends how you get to that total load, if you have a 600W gpu I would never put that onto just 1000w psu
fickle ore
well it depends how you get to that total load, if you have a 600W gpu I would n...
transients go brrrr within µs
astral haven
well it depends how you get to that total load, if you have a 600W gpu I would n...
It definetly depends on the characteristics of that 600w tho
For stuff like overclocked Maxwell where when it is 600w it's nearly smooth and transientless
fickle ore
God I actually need a new PSU. WTB titanium ATX 3.0 spec'd seasonic
iron coyote
I use a UPS so I had to make sure max load didn't go over its limits in case it needs the battery x.x
ashen spindle
It definetly depends on the characteristics of that 600w tho
4090ti stock 
astral haven
Meh my pau won't be beat for another few years
astral haven
4090ti stock <:mm:638142954841833512>
We shall see
I would highly suspect lower transients on that high a power gpu
gusty kiln
wonder if a 4090ti would even be a fully unlocked gpu
astral haven
No
astral haven
But the peak of the transients will be the same between the 4090 and it
The thing is the transients are just the device using as much power as it can before it gets limited for one reason or another
The 4090 TI may or may not use more average power than the 4090 but in terms of transients they will reach similar peaks
ashen spindle
the power daw will depend upon how strong navi31 is because if they need to make it 550w, if they can, to have the better numbers, they will
astral haven
I want a successor to the 295x2 and the 7990
Reminder that amd still holds the consumer GPU tdp crown
iron coyote
Alrighty the tests are done
Full GPU load gets very close to 50% PSU Load
Full load on both CPU & GPU gets me to ~59%
Idle gives me ~15%
Numbers look good.. what do you think ?
ashen spindle
yeah thats absolutely fine
vagrant pagoda
But the peak of the transients will be the same between the 4090 and it
Inrush as the mosfets open and dump into the secondary caps. It's really poor power delivery communication by the GPU.
Reactivate regulation
vagrant pagoda
The card should have enough primary/secondary caps to cover it
Or taper the power delivery to match the capacity they havem
astral haven
The transients come from the GPU actually using that amount of power...
astral haven
?
vagrant pagoda
Taper in the load in software.
vagrant pagoda
yeah and it should have enough capacidence to prevent the spikes
wheat plume
I can't find the answer online ..
Can a Google Nest automatically swap what network it's connected to?
Like when at home, it'll connect to mine
And if I take it to my aunts house, it'll automatically connect there
wheat plume
I love seeing two Apple employees bashing on Apple for not wanting to add lossless BT codes to iPhone cause Apple dont want to pay Sony or Qualcomm for licensing them
frozen ingot
am all for watching apple get shit on when they're being stubbornly prideful and greedy about their dumbass ways
gusty kiln
can't wait to see what's going to happen in the EU market for them
gusty kiln
yeah they have ALAC don't they
vagrant pagoda
its crazy they dont have it
pale sigil
@wheat plume forgot to say before
The pixel tablet stand is cool
Seems like something apple would do but they didn't
final flame
despite flac being a free codec, they felt the need to make alac
wheat plume
can't wait to see what's going to happen in the EU market for them
I'm betting they remove the charging port and go full Magsafe charging
Followed along by most Android phones within 2 years
gusty kiln
I'm betting they remove the charging port and go full Magsafe charging
Another step closer to a completely smooth phone
astral haven
I'm betting they remove the charging port and go full Magsafe charging
fortunately it looks like they arent allowed to
its not
charging connectors must be usb c
its
these specific devices must have usb c charging
Ok so I'm having a problem with my steam deck
I have an ancient game that requires a manual patch to fix some bugs, but swapping the files on my SD card it redownloads the old exe and runs that instead...
vagrant pagoda
Ok so I'm having a problem with my steam deck
I have an ancient game that requir...
launch in offline mode?
vagrant pagoda
Whymst the fuck is that allowed
linux
also
timeshift is old as fuck
and not great lol
astral haven
Haven't tried manual offline mode
astral haven
and not great lol
Name a 3d game with a better time control mechanic
vagrant pagoda
dosent make it a good game
astral haven
It's the best game with time control
shadow minnow
Name a 3d game with a better time control mechanic
Life is strange
shadow minnow
Well if you didn’t finish it you didn’t make it far enough
But yeah it’s not really a mechanic
astral haven
Yea exactly
shadow minnow
Or well
shadow minnow
There are a very few cases where it does become a mechanic
It’s just not focused around it being a mechanic
astral haven
prince of persia
That's true
The inspiration lek
Yea it won't launch at all in manual offline mode
vagrant pagoda
maybe patch is compatible with proton
astral haven
I suspect it's ignoring the existence of the file at all
vagrant pagoda
I suspect it's ignoring the existence of the file at all
Is it a permissions thing
astral haven
Right forgot about Linux permissions bs
God I hate Linux so much
Aaaaand it crashed when I tried to open a second properties window to compare and copy the permissions settings
frozen ingot
jUsT rTfM bRo LmAo - linuxbros
vagrant pagoda
i use linux for everything server wise]
well bsd and illumos too
but never for desktop
astral haven
It's the same...
vagrant pagoda
i even ran looking glass for a while, with linux as main desktop and windows for just games
and gave up on it
astral haven
God in what world is it ok for there to be two files of the same exact name in a folder
vagrant pagoda
you have exe and Exe
astral haven
Oh for Christ sakes
thank you
Sweet
Now why steam capitalizes the e in exe and then checks for that? I do not know
vagrant pagoda
who ever published it to steam did that
astral haven
Checks for capitalization on the file extension of a file on a steam deck?
vagrant pagoda
Checks for capitalization on the file extension of a file on a steam deck?
published the game to steam with the capitial
astral haven
Yea but why would steam be case sensitive for the file extension
vagrant pagoda
linux is all case sensitive
empty wren
Someone is smoking something to say, tool steel is amazing for heat up times and long-term abrasion
astral haven
I mean
They aren't wrong?
wheat plume
its not
charging connectors must be usb c
its
these specific devices must have u...
Yes
But what's preventing them going only wireless?
ashen spindle
you replied to the answer of that question
"these specific devices must have usb c charging"
wheat plume
So only USB c? No wireless?
ashen spindle
does that sentence say "only"?
wheat plume
Ok ok
So this both enforces they cannot remove the charging port but also it must be USB c?
ashen spindle
appears to be the case
wheat plume
Oh yeah they had to reupload the video xd
cursive summit
https://fxtwitter.com/ordinarygamers/status/1578464962821095425
Didn't he leave twitter
pale sigil
Forgot my charger :( using a peasant normal charger at my grandparents.
The struggle is real
cursive summit
And my not working PC adventures are done
The culprit was a seemingly dead CPU
Bought new RAM sticks, installed those after clearing CMOS, still bootcycled
Changed the 3600 into 5600X and now it works with no problem
Sad, I liked that 6 core
I wonder if I can somehow RMA it
I bought it 2.5 years ago from a local shop
shadow minnow
I suppose you can try to ask
magic crypt
cursive summit
A prebuilt?
I bought that PC at the very start of lockdown
When GPUs were expensive af
I got a pretty decent deal of a 3600, RX 5700, a B450, 16GB of RAM and a 512GB SSD for 930€
Back then that was a solid deal even by custom standards
cursive summit
Still <:dogekek:846285268289323069>
Stfu, not everyone is as privileged as you
latent mural
amd gpu user laff
wheat plume
The language bar is now showing up in the login screen .-.
cursive summit
Jesus this ROG software is full of useless shit
AIDA64 and CPU-Z is cool, I suppose
wheat plume
that is Armory Crate, right?
cursive summit
But why tf is Norton and Overwolf here
wheat plume
You can disable it in UEFI
cursive summit
But it's full of useless shit
wheat plume
no idea
cursive summit
That's the only piece of software apart of DAEMON, CPU-Z and AIDA that I see here that could be useful
reef patrol
What is this RAMCache thing though
It's basically ASUS way of taking over Windows' HDD caching.
You know - The pagefile.
cursive summit
How useful is it though
wheat plume
Yeah, probably best to let the OS itself handle the pagefile
wheat plume
Yeah...Like swap in Linux but on Windows
If you are using more ram than you have, it uses the storage as buffer
cursive summit
I mean I wouldn't mind allocating like 12 GB's
As long as it'd be stable and make a difference
wheat plume
Having swap can be handy if you suspend or hibernate and have not much ram
cursive summit
Eh I uninstalled the armoury crate spyware
No need
I just needed the chipset and audio drivers
Which ASUS are bastards about, since the motherboard comes with no LAN drivers
Meaning you can't use internet
Meaning you can't update or even download drivers
I had to load them into an USB and then manually install LAN drivers
reef patrol
I'm so glad that is such a rarity to encounter. I think I've had to use a 2nd PC to set up a customer's PC like ... 10 times over the course of two years.
cursive summit
And I now have another 1TB SSD in the shape of 970 Evo Plus
Which I have no clue what to do with
ashen spindle
It's basically ASUS way of taking over Windows' HDD caching.
Uhh no it’s doing the opposite of that
reef patrol
I just quoted the first article I could find on the topic tbf 😄
halcyon moss
i just got a asus laptop and it need the armoury crate for this lighting on the outside of the display casing
let me turn it off
ashen spindle
It’s allocating ram space to put stuff in there as if it were a super fast add instead of loading it there later on demand
halcyon moss
or.. something static and easy going instead of this seizure inducing stuff
yes, zephyrus g14
cursive summit
Idk why Asus tries to shove down RGB up my ass
"DO YOU WANT TO INSTALL AURA RGB MODULE WITH YOUR ARMOURED CRATE"
"No, install only the armoured crate with no RGB"
"OK, INSTALLING RGB AND ARMOURED CRATE"
Why tf did you even ask then
halcyon moss
yeah, thats why i installed linux on my g14 :p
wheat plume
It still happens
EVERY TIME I turn on my Razer speakers, it brings up the Synapse installer .-.
cursive summit
I also hate how they (possibly illegally) install extra software on top of the one you wanted to install
Without your consent
Did you install just the drivers and a weird bundleware app that you'll soon uninstall?
frozen ingot
stop resisting
crimson wigeon
What's an armoury crate
frozen ingot
accept the rgb into your heart
cursive summit
No, have this audio manager, then another PC manager, then realtek app
reef patrol
What's an armoury crate
It's ASUS lootcrates.
crimson wigeon
Don't even know what that does I just saw that in the UEFI setup and turned it off immediately
cursive summit
What's an armoury crate
ASUS's term for their app that controls driver installs amongst many other things
Like optional "tools", discounts for games and ads for Google Chrome
crimson wigeon
So just garbage bloat, good dodged a bullet there
wheat plume
Yeah, although if you have Asus Aura RGB devices, you need it
I had to use it to control the RGB Strip I put in the case
cursive summit
I don't want to have Aura RGB devices
wheat plume
it works with some other RGB things too like Corsairs shit
halcyon moss
to turn off the rgbs you first have to install that shitware
ashen spindle
skill issue
no need for rgb software if during building you dont connect the rgb headers
crimson wigeon
Nah, I turned it all off in UEFI setup, although I did make it so the reset button toggles it just in case I feel like making my computer be a bit more 🌈
halcyon moss
and the keyboard is fucking rainbowing when you turn it on
OFF OFF OFF
good thing i have a closed case and the light cannot escape
halcyon moss
amd wraith cooler
crimson wigeon
Only my RAM is all 🌈 right now.. turning it off requires softwares and of course it doesn't save.. but meh, my computer is located such that I don't even see it so whatever
ashen spindle
yeah just dont connect the cable that is used for rbg there , block the pin or something 😛
halcyon moss
1 extra watt though :p
ashen spindle
pretty sure the default for most is to not run anything if the power is not connected
halcyon moss
sorry, was responding to ngh
crimson wigeon
True.. them watts ain't cheap!
halcyon moss
and extra heat!
crimson wigeon
But I don't wanna freeze to death..
halcyon moss
ugh.. im an idiot.. i was testing if the loading spinner was showing up, but i didnt set the value yet -_-
that means it is time to stop working for today, brain is fried
vagrant pagoda
Only my RAM is all 🌈 right now.. turning it off requires softwares and of cours...
on my g.skill i just pulled the led diffuser, etaped the bottom of it, and reinstalled
now no rgb
crimson wigeon
Effort
reef patrol
on my g.skill i just pulled the led diffuser, etaped the bottom of it, and reins...
Could just disable it in settings you know 😏
vagrant pagoda
Could just disable it in settings you know 😏
Ram dosent save settings on device
So you have to run software every power cycle.
reef patrol
Mine do.
vagrant pagoda
Which ones?
reef patrol
My Royals have no issue keeping settings.
Nor did my other ones from the less blingy lines.
vagrant pagoda
You can uninstall the software and do an actual power cycle?
reef patrol
Yes?
reef patrol
I feel like we're moving goalposts now. No just the RAM.
I need iCue running to get my fans to show anything cause my controller from Corsair has no onboard memory.
If I don't want RGB on my fans I just don't plug it in (or spend a fortune on them)
I'm just saying tearing out the strips on Gskill is overkill 😁
vagrant pagoda
icue can control memory leds
vagrant pagoda
yeah asus has icue boards
reef patrol
I'm on ASROCK.
gusty kiln
i have the asrock razer so i have to use croma for ram lol
Is that basically a taichi?
cursive summit
Is that basically a taichi?
It is a taichi