🔌│tech

[hexed gyro]

and you can leave the mechanical design to others otherwise - Electrical engineering is more valuable.

Then you'd also need to learn how to program low level code 😛

but a lot of this stuff can be hacked together with existing information out there, you just need some familiarity and a lot of motivation.

[shadow minnow]

Ngl I think that coding would be the harder part, compared to electrical engineering, keyboards don’t need many high speed lanes or such

Especially non analog keyboards, electrical engineering there can be kinda easy

[deft marlin]

Easy in theory, but assembly and the like are best learnt to mastery

so as not to trip over in the initial stage of making the keyboard

Coding would probably be simple to type out and execute, but understanding the logic behind it takes some grasping of basics and advanced reading

[wheat plume]

The world: Don't put all your eggs in the same basket!!
Also the world: produces 99% of it's electricity from fossil fuels that are running out really rapidly and is doing nothing at all to convert away from using them

🤦‍♀️

[reef patrol]

Fuck are you on about now, Lahnah.

[ashen spindle]

thats not even remotely accurate lana

[wheat plume]

Ok
I got the percentage wrong

It's still too large of a majority

[ashen spindle]

the "doing nothing at all" part is also completely false

[wheat plume]

How so?

No one is doing shit
People protest and get outraged if you try to build a nuclear power plant these days

And people are still buying petrol cars

[deft marlin]

Well I believe it’s the danish or Finnish using wind energy to power the entire nation now

[wheat plume]

And Norway is mostly renewable too iirc

[ashen spindle]

yea not shit its going too slow, that's still a massive difference to doing "nothing at all"

[reef patrol]

They're kind of essential to get anywhere in most of the world.
EV and Hydrogen cars aren't super easy to have.

[wheat plume]

Yeh :/ that's the issue

Not enough ev infrastructure and grants to buy them

[ashen spindle]

doesnt change that you cant just fix it by putting solar everywhere, that is still seasonal and storage for long time isnt far enough yet

[wheat plume]

Yeh ..

[ashen spindle]

EV also doesnt solve it since you then need to factor in the electricity they use, the energy used to make them and the cost of waste if you trash all old burner cars that still work

[reef patrol]

And the materials for current battery tech.

Hydrogen's gaining a lot of futureproofing popularity. But we still need a more efficient way to produce it.

[ashen spindle]

and if you want to build solar in most places you're on a wait list for like 6-12 months because it takes time to make them, chip shortage etc.

[reef patrol]

It's an electric car that uses insta swap power cells. No batteries.

[ashen spindle]

like sure we are to slow in the change but please dont post completely false takes like that

[deft marlin]

And not have cars end up like zeppelins

[ashen spindle]

thats already not the case because its stored completely different

[deft marlin]

Fire a couple rounds from a machine gun and the entire thing ignites

[ashen spindle]

nope

[deft marlin]

Yea well cars are metal, zeppelins only had a metal frame

[ashen spindle]

not relevant in this case but sure

[deft marlin]

Well could internal issues cause the same result?

In the case of hydrogen fuel cell cars

I don’t know what’s in them so educate me

[reef patrol]

I find it amusing that you're trying to make the argument that hydrogen is flammable... in a vehicle that normally has a tank full of GASOLINE.

In neither case will a hail of bullets alone make anything explode. This isn't hollywood.

[ashen spindle]

hydrogen fuel cell is also not saying you just straight up put H2 gas tanks in it

[deft marlin]

Not the case anymore

[reef patrol]

You also need a pretty strong igniter - The concentration is so high that you can't just put it on fire. If you throw a lighter or a matchstick into gasoline it'll just get doused and die.

[deft marlin]

well what are the odds of fuel cell cars exploding due to an internal problem

[reef patrol]

About as high as a gasoline car randomly exploding out of the blue?

Which is SUCH a common problem right now.

[deft marlin]

Imagine graphene battery cars

[tropic nacelle]

electric cars are just as bad surely, pierce the battery off goes a fire.

[ashen spindle]

also not universally true

also thats not the fault of EVs that would just be the fault of the used Li-ion battery

[reef patrol]

I mean if anything batteries are a lot more prone to "catastrophic failure" than fuel based cars.

[fickle ore]

Can't scale world to run on EV's. Not enough energy production. Hydrogen is the future, or bio-oils, bio-gas..

[reef patrol]

Or forcing people to use collective transportation xD

[fickle ore]

That would be sad 😦

[pale sigil]

Battery fires are fucking scary though

[tropic nacelle]

yeah thats what I mean, hydrogen powered cars are no worse than electric cars (that use batteries, now).

[ashen spindle]

no lithium fires are scary, not all batteries are based on that

[pale sigil]

Ever since I saw Lois's bike on fire

[tropic nacelle]

Also if there is not enough power for electric cars then there is DEFINITELY not enough power for hydrogren cars due to how much power is wasted producing hydrogen!

[pale sigil]

Oh boy

Lithium sorry

[ashen spindle]

and same thing for EV or H2 cars, either one can be fine if resource production gets better

and honestly could happen with either or both or neither

[reef patrol]

That's the key issue here - We need a better process for making hydrogen. Cause EV power clearly can't be the solution (better batteries could help a ton)

[fickle ore]

That's very short sighted. As if Hydrogen production can not improve. There are already several ways.

[pale sigil]

We need more bikes, just bike everywhere.

Ez

EV is the solution

[tropic nacelle]

yep hydrogen cars is definitely a viable long term thing as it has quick fill times and is a good equivilant to current petrol but it just needs efficiency improvement on generating it but I have no idea how long that will take or if its solvable as a "problem".

At the very least we should just aim to make more nuclear, renewables to cover it anyway haha

[pale sigil]

Till the final solution is found

[reef patrol]

Hey now, Adolf.

[fickle ore]

minifusionreactors behind my ass!

[tropic nacelle]

not short sighted just the facts right now, same as you said EV isnt the way because there is not enough power but really they both are viable if power production improves, EV will need less production overall but isnt ideal with current battery tech

[pale sigil]

Just make Americans power the world via exercise bikes.

Will be fine for years.

Till we find a better solution.

Healthier world and free electric

[tropic nacelle]

americans dont do exercise I hear so that would be difficult or you will only get 1 complete pedal cycle....

[reef patrol]

What we need are more icelandic volcanoes crippling air travel.

But in the middle of the US Midwest.

[fickle ore]

Facts? No.. What you mean to say is that EV (li-ion) is more efficient than current hydrogen fuel cells (loss of efficiency)

[pale sigil]

If I have to wait for my wooting a month longer I don't want to live in this world.

[tropic nacelle]

I said "Also if there is not enough power for electric cars then there is DEFINITELY not enough power for hydrogren cars due to how much power is wasted producing hydrogen!"

That is a fact in response to your "Can't scale world to run on EV's. Not enough energy production. Hydrogen is the future, or bio-oils, bio-gas."

[pale sigil]

Anyone watched thunderpants?

[tropic nacelle]

if everyone switches to an electric car today it would still be too much but it would less overall than hydrogen by a significant margin

[fickle ore]

Hydrogen cars ≠ hydrogen fuel cell cars. Please read.

[tropic nacelle]

no one mentioned fuel cell?

[fickle ore]

-...-'

[reef patrol]

That's 100% what I am talking about. What are YOU referring to? xD

[tropic nacelle]

I like to think I did read, I even read it again but I dont see what has been missed. It is less effcient to produce than using EV, its a fact.

Doesnt mean hydrogen isnt a perfectly viable goal that needs to be persued, EV is a good stop gap and energy production as a whole needs to vastly improve to cater for both technologies.

[reef patrol]

I'm curious as to how a hydrogen car isn't a hydrogen car though. Please elaborate, Dga.

[junior ore]

We'd all get five rotations in and die of a heart attack on a bike.

Id be curious too as to how a car running on something that uses hydrogen wouldn't be called a hydrogen car.

[ashen spindle]

would you call a car that is powered by electricity thats coming from h2 a ev or a h2 car?

just way too ambiguous if you dont specify it imo

[stark bobcat]

Lithium ion batteries have nasty fires too.

[empty wren]

You would be surprised how they do not really catch fire unless they somehow already inflated

[stark bobcat]

I think a car crash can make something catch fire aswell

[junior ore]

that's why specifying is good good. but if its running on electricity it's running on electricity still. Also I got no idea what a H2 or H2 A EV is >.>

[ashen spindle]

h2, hydrogen

ev electric vehicle

[junior ore]

ah

if it uses hydrogen = Hyrogen Car pretty straight forward.

[ashen spindle]

so hydrogen in the back, turns into electricity which drives the electric motor, not an EV?

[fickle ore]

I too wish world was that straight forward

[ashen spindle]

either way it's just way to vague to not be specific since there are so many variants and people easily think to talk about the same thing when there are differences

[junior ore]

it's using hydrogen as the fuel so yes I believe I would call it a hydrogen to classify it separately from cars that would run off a battery or such.

[fickle ore]

By that logic current "hydrogen cars" are EV cars

[junior ore]

even if it converts it into electricity for an electric motor.

I think it important to give them separate classifications

[fickle ore]

But this is so beside the point it's ridiculous and not worth 😄

[reef patrol]

Hydrogen doesn't have traditional emissions, only water and heat.

But it IS a combustion process.

[ashen spindle]

also thats excluding the supply chain for it

[junior ore]

I don't think we were talking about supply chains or if it combusts or not? Pretty sure it was about naming convention/classification.

[reef patrol]

Oh sure. Just the engine here. The process is a whole different beast.

[fickle ore]

Dont necessarily need supply chain if it's producable locally in your nearest "gas" station.

[junior ore]

pffft

[ashen spindle]

sure but then we still need to look at emissions from that relative to electricity and the factor at which the energy gets converted at etc.

[reef patrol]

Ultimately though a hydrogen car has an electric engine.

[junior ore]

aye

[fickle ore]

Not necessarily, it could be ICE

[junior ore]

but its using hydrogen and not a battery

or rather

SOMEWHERE : it's using hydrogen

as a primary fuel source*

[reef patrol]

Isn't ICE like super inefficient? 😄

[fickle ore]

Sure, and that's too deep for here =p

[ashen spindle]

so if I charge my tesla with power I made from hydrogen at home does that turn my tesla into a hydrogen car

[junior ore]

no cause its not part of the car

that is external of the car

by that logic : electric cars are atomic cars because of a local power plant

[fickle ore]

Does being inefficient matter if producing it could theoretically be relatively green, and the fumes are water like you put it

[reef patrol]

Yes.

[fickle ore]

Why?

[junior ore]

it doesn't matter for this conversation though because we aren't doing practicalities of corpo-consumer selling

[stark bobcat]

So a nuclear submarine shouldn't be called that either? But instead electronic submarine?

[fickle ore]

oof, European EV's being coal cars

[fickle ore]

If u tried Musk would ban u from owning said tesla

he doesnt believe in hydrogen 😄

[ashen spindle]

bruh all I wanted to get at was what about an EV using hydrogen not as combustion but as a battery

[fickle ore]

this is too deep I can't follow

[ashen spindle]

all I wanted was for people to be clear what they talk about basically

if theres multiple hydrogen car designs it doesnt make sense to argue if they are valid or not if its not specified what people mean exaclty

[fickle ore]

All cars that use electricity to drive the motor are basically EV's, be it BEV's or FCEV's

a hydrogen car would be hydrogen ICE

(IMO)

[ashen spindle]

and hydrogen could either mean a FCEV or a combustion engine

[fickle ore]

No

FCEV are EV's

[ashen spindle]

ok, definitions aside, if people just say hydrogen they might mean FCEV, which caused confusion in this already

[fickle ore]

just teleporting your local energy plant to your car basically.

[ashen spindle]

if its accurate or not doesnt matter, thats what it is referred to sometimes

[fickle ore]

Ya agree

[stark bobcat]

Thank god I do not need a car (nor would I be allowed to drive it) EVs just seem to kinda suck for now

[ashen spindle]

ya trains ftw

[fickle ore]

Ye I'm not touching no EV's until solid state batteries and even then will see about energy prices. Gf's daddy can fix all ICE's so relatively cheap costs vs. taking my electric car to repair & worrying about battery wear/replace.

[ashen spindle]

sadly yeah

idk by then hopefully enough incentives are out to get prices low enough

[fickle ore]

Idk, I would prob drive EV in some warm country with cheap electricity costs and near 0% car tax (looking at USA). But certainly not this north, energy crisis and 100000% car tax. Freaking tesla costs like 60k€ here and govt subsidizes 2k€ which is like fraction of the tax.

Plus I could charge it with PV

LOL (used) from tesla website

Ok, new 2022 teslas cost 143k€. I was wrong about 60k

[vagrant pagoda]

The irony is you could buy a brand new mirage, have to deal with a shitty car for 10 years, and it would be better for the environment than a Tesla.

Total cost would be less than half, and the environmental foot print would be lower.

[ashen spindle]

ya tesla is a lot of hot air sadly

[reef patrol]

It's largely a political thing. Companies like Tesla need to convince and lobby for more EV research and production to make their fever dream a reality. This is scary common in tech advancements.

Solar power wouldn't be anywhere near where it is today without MASSIVE political and "green energy" lobbying over decades. And it has cost a lot environmentally and in terms of hot air promises to get here (let alone to the real goal)

[ashen spindle]

yup

[reef patrol]

It's a bit like buying Apple - It's a status symbol and gives you ties to certain assumptions.

[ashen spindle]

just like last month the last german factory that makes wind turbines closed because its not profitable for them to exist anymore, can't make that shit up

[reef patrol]

I live in an area where a lot of CEOs who don't want to live in the fanciest parts of the country live (cause it's hella cheaper and they rarely travel anyway), so we have a hilarious amount of Teslas for what is considered tourist beach area among farmers.

If the CEOs want to go anywhere, there's a local airport that basically only caters to them anyway. Expensive air fare by prop plane, small 10-30 seater ones.

There's no proper public recharging last I checked (that actually handles Tesla level recharges, only old tech). So you charge at home xD

[astral haven]

Environmental footprint highly depends on where you get your electricity
Where I live tho, the amount of grid power generated by fossil fuels is nearly zero, and we are net negative thanks to our solar

If our current car dies and we have to buy a car, the car that would be the lowest total emissions would absolutely be electric
Tesla? Almost certainly not but electric yes
And Tesla is still gonna be far ahead of all but a few phevs

[vagrant pagoda]

Mirage is the cheapest lightest car you can get, and they regularly get 40-50 mpg

[ashen spindle]

price and (different) fuel consumption aren't the same thing as environmental footprint

[astral haven]

So it's only consuming 70% more energy than the Tesla nice

It's also heavier than the aptera by several hundred pounds

[ashen spindle]

I just wish we'd find a random lithium mine in idk the desert in nevada and can be sure the batteries are not made with slave labour from the congo or other places

[astral haven]

And shipping cars across oceans has huuuuge environmental impacts

[astral haven]

I mean
Australia produces the most lithium in the world...

[ashen spindle]

wait nvm that was cobalt, same train of thought for the other parts though

[astral haven]

Yea
But moving from cobalt to iron is working just fine

Basically the transition away from heavy metals is happening

[ashen spindle]

fair enough, I just dont trust musk to think the supply chain is mostly clean now lmao

world just needs to be lucky and find someone to solve all the graphene problems with tape again and we're set lmao

[vagrant pagoda]

Yeah a car that you can't buy, great comparison

[astral haven]

There are plenty of other small evs, the aptera is just the best

[vagrant pagoda]

Which ones actually are crash tested and I can buy today

The aptera js 3 wheeled so it needs no crash testing in the us

[ashen spindle]

speaking of hydrogen

https://arstechnica.com/science/2022/09/nasa-making-second-attempt-to-launch-the-sls-rocket/

[astral haven]

The bolt 2022 and 3 are certainly crash tested
And while they are heavier they are monumentally more efficient than anything overseas
Especially since they are produced in a country that produces steel and aluminum lel

[vivid vine]

Anybody watch Optimum's new vid? Now I want to switch back to a dam Viper

[vagrant pagoda]

Yeah the one that can randomly catch on fire

[astral haven]

That's why I specified 2022 and 3

[vagrant pagoda]

And a bolt is twice a mirage

Which is 140k miles of driving for that money.

[astral haven]

Ok so you want to save money for the long term environmental cost 🤷‍♂️ you do you

But also
That's why you wait
The ev incentives are coming soon ™️

[vagrant pagoda]

And I also compared it to a Tesla as they are terrible in their manufacturing for greennees

Though I didn't Chevy is better

[astral haven]

🤷‍♂️ we only know exactly how green a Tesla is
Show me the lifecycle analysis of the misubishi

[vagrant pagoda]

The Mitsubishi is almost 80% recyclable.

[astral haven]

Recyclable means nothing

Even recycled means nothing either

Post consumer recycled is the only phrase with any meaning for sustainability

The Tesla is 99.5% recyclable with the only exclusions being the fire retardant foams and paint

[vagrant pagoda]

Yeah and where do you think most of the aluminum and steel used in car manufacturig comes from.

Only high strength steel isn't recycled

[astral haven]

In the us? The us
Outside of the us? China

[vagrant pagoda]

Most cars are recycled steel.

[astral haven]

Except for any cars made by anyone lel

[vagrant pagoda]

Source?

[astral haven]

You made the claim lel

[vagrant pagoda]

My steel supplier supplies Toyotas plant and it's 50-90% recycled. All of their steel they make is at least half recycled.

Virgin iron is too expensive to use, so they use as much recycled as they can.

It's the only way for them to compete with China on steel prices

[astral haven]

Show me the stat sheet
Shoe me where it says post consumer recycled

[vagrant pagoda]

Nucor look them up

They dont operate iron foundries

Only steel furnaces

They supplement scrap steel with iron from other foundries for higher grades. But most of their products are all scrap

Us manufacturered Japanese cars all use Nucor steel, as well as some FCA cars

Toyota is their largest non structural customer

[astral haven]

https://d9-wret.s3.us-west-2.amazonaws.com/assets/palladium/production/s3fs-public/media/files/mis-202205-fescr.pdf
Here's the USGS saying that out of about 6m tons of steel produced in the us, the source material was 3m tons of scrap, which reduced to 19% of steel production

[vagrant pagoda]

They have 3 plants in Alabama to support Toyotas Huntsville plant.

[astral haven]

Good for them

[vagrant pagoda]

And the mirage is made ina Thailand, and their steel industry is almost all scrap based.

Only in the last few years has the COVID demand surge led them to import raw iron.

Cars very very rarely use virgin steel.

It's very expensive.

Virgin steel is mostly used for pipe lines and buildings.

[astral haven]

Be aware that producers definitions of recycled include
A) materials that failed QC at any point and went back into production
B) materials that were not used, and were converted to a different grade due to demand
And ofc C) scrap from production methods like stamping or any number of subtractive manufacturing

So again cite your sources

[vagrant pagoda]

Call your local foundry

They will be happy to talk to you about recycling

[astral haven]

I literally posted a PDF from the USGS

[vagrant pagoda]

And it showed where steel was used?

Also that's 50% scrap.

[astral haven]

You read the input lel

Scrap doesn't even make up 50% of the actual steel supply in the us
And it only comes out to 19% of the us steel production

Anyways the source you need to provide is the lifecycle analysis of the mirage

The only reason that Tesla is under fire is they actually produced the analysis, and folks like you who are unable to do a lifecycle analysis saw the numbers and went wow that looks big that's gotta be worse than this super cheap gas car I randomly chose

[vagrant pagoda]

Where are you getting 19% from

[astral haven]

https://www.eia.gov/opendata/v1/qb.php?category=1039999&sdid=STEO.RSPRPUS.M

[vagrant pagoda]

That's total.

[astral haven]

And where are you getting the mirage's total environmental footprint from

I'll wait to provide more evidence that you will ignore until you provide that

[vagrant pagoda]

I can't actually find Tesla's total yearly CO2 emmisons

They bury it in a bunch of useless shit

[astral haven]

Total doesn't matter companies can make that zero through minor effort
You want to look at the production of each vehicle

[vagrant pagoda]

Yeah telsa includes negative effects in their production

[astral haven]

Yea but because you can look at the entire situation, you can remove it and ignore it

[ashen spindle]

huh interresting, seems like one issue of the intel drivers is that the dev team for that was to big parts in russia

which would explain some additional delays for the last half year

[worthy garnet]

might be a very dumb question does wooting keyboards have the ability to remap keys? Like when gaming I have alt as a keybind as well as tab. As you can tell I sometimes accidentally switch tabs mid fight. Therefore I was wondering if I could remap the alt key to something like key 6, so that I don’t have that problem. If it’s not a feature that’s offered, do you guys recommend any external software that could help me?

[ashen spindle]

yes

[worthy garnet]

Wooting has the feature to remap?

[final flame]

yes

[worthy garnet]

Perfect! Thank you

[pale sigil]

Wtf

Was wondering why my game was lagging

[reef patrol]

[pale sigil]

85c

How

What

Jesus Christ

Has my cooler packed in

nothing open

has cooled down a little tho

i removed the front panel

bit paranoid now

lets hope its a matter of being dusty lol

ill give it a big clean tomoz

[reef patrol]

[pale sigil]

yup its deffo dust

[pulsar canopy]

What’s your cooler?

[pale sigil]

xD

im at 50c in game atm

[pale sigil]

Galahad AIO 240

Tell you what, im so glad i got this case, it looks so clean inside you would never think there was dust, the filters are top notch... i just forget to clean em.

[pulsar canopy]

Nice

[latent mural]

how do I make a 4 x 5 staggered column joystick keyboard

similar to these products

[wheat plume]

This is the channel for you
https://youtu.be/yNOGEtqn85o

He does videos on keyboards like this all the time

Huh?

[latent mural]

yea I am aware of him

[wheat plume]

You want the fastest browser?
But in what scenario?

[latent mural]

He was helpful for the keyboard part of this product I’m designing

I don’t know how to integrate a joystick tho

and where to a magnetic joystick

to fix drift

[wheat plume]

Oh
Hmmm
I'm not sure tbh
Probably Firefox maybe

Personally I find Chromium a nice compromise these days between website support and speed

But I also use Firefox a lot more than that

Chromium is backup

The browser Chrome is based on
It's open source too

And made by Google just like Chrome

[true quest]

goddamn three days and battery health is down 5% on the deck

[empty wren]

No duh

[deft marlin]

wHat

One year with my iPhone SE and battery health is…. 89% of max charge still attainable

[empty wren]

The steam deck heats up more

[frozen ingot]

my 11 is at 79% nearing 3 years of use

[deft marlin]

Is it just me or do i feel like apple's old tech was more efficient

or durable

because my mother's iPhone 6S is still holding up with 50% initial charge possible after 7 years of use

[frozen ingot]

iphone battery life always sucked to my experience

[empty wren]

My Pixel 3XL 3½-4 years has 85%

[deft marlin]

well not battery life

as in battery health

[deft marlin]

^^

and judging from your iPhone nightman, that figure's coming in another 2 years or so for you

interesting, 2 years short of my mother's

[frozen ingot]

maybe, I'll probably have it swapped out by that point

[empty wren]

Just plug it

And never use battery

No degradation

[frozen ingot]

I'm not very careful with my charging habits so I probably abuse the battery health a bit

[empty wren]

I charge all the way up

[frozen ingot]

yeah, sometimes I let it run rather hot too

which batteries tend to dislike

[empty wren]

Oh bad boy

Honestly

Charging is fone

Iphones typically charge slowly anyways

It is charging and using the phone that he rates a lot of heat

[frozen ingot]

you can charge it faster with a higher wattage charger than the usual tiny one apple used to bundle

[empty wren]

Ipad

Yesbut still slow

[frozen ingot]

but I mostly use that because I mostly charge overnight

[empty wren]

Xiaomi black shark

Charges 4500 or 4200

In 20 minutes

[frozen ingot]

or I use powerbank since it'll go flat halfway through a day quite often

[empty wren]

From 0-100%

[empty wren]

Iphones get an official battery case as eell

[frozen ingot]

idk I don't really need fast charging with a powerbank

[empty wren]

Oh okay

[frozen ingot]

since its still more or less portable when using that, if I had to charge it up fast at home before going out or something fastcharging would be handy

[empty wren]

Honestly stopped using my phone so much recently

Probably helps battery health

Also still got a charge even right noe

Power banks are okay

I stopped using my wireless one

[frozen ingot]

I might need to get a new one soon, it doesn't last nearly as long as it used to

[empty wren]

I mean if you use it makes sense

Though

[frozen ingot]

couple times a week at least

[empty wren]

They are pretty inexpensive

[frozen ingot]

yeah think I paid some $30 for this 20000mah one I've been using for the past 3-4 years or so

[empty wren]

Labour day sale soon

[frozen ingot]

it even supported fastcharging over usb-c which I used on my note 8 when I was still using that

[empty wren]

So uh hop on that

If you need a new powerbank

[frozen ingot]

don't think labour day is a thing in the EU

[empty wren]

Oh well

Maybe somethin will still be discounted for ya

[frozen ingot]

its still good for maybe a few full chargings of my phone so not quite in a rush yet, but I might have a lookout this upcoming black friday

[empty wren]

You get some batteries

And strap en together with loose wires

And a clock

Would make for a nice powrrbank

Could even attach to say a vest

[frozen ingot]

wouldn't be complete without some catchy phrase of religious nature too

[empty wren]

Oh you mean go All go to Bar

Or or

Valhalla here I come

I got another Odin is with us

[frozen ingot]

reminds me of a danish soccer coach that made a joke about bombing the airport while walking through an airport

[empty wren]

Yo wtf

When I was in high school

People casually talked about

Maybe was a joke

[frozen ingot]

yeah happened quite recently, he got detained

[empty wren]

But bruh wtf

[frozen ingot]

and got fired from his job as coach

[empty wren]

Should of done it in private or something

Not in a public airport

[frozen ingot]

yeah people tend to be a bit on edge about those types of jokes these days

[empty wren]

I mean honestly

It sounds like yelling fire

In a crowd of people

[frozen ingot]

I'm lowkey expecting the next tiktok trend to be yelling ITS A BOMB in a public space

[empty wren]

I swear if those people get sucker punched on camera

Not gonna be suprised

Like how low of a person must one be to literally do anything for fame

Inb4 after that

Someone does a TikTok to sending people to retirementhomes Forster home or some trafficking

I swear at this point I would not be surprised if they did

[frozen ingot]

am quite sure the dumbest tiktok trend have yet to surface

[empty wren]

Inb4 people start purging for tiktok

[frozen ingot]

[empty wren]

Next they do the whale challenge

[sour bear]

does anyone know the name of this cable connecting the keyboard?

[reef patrol]

Could be any coiled cable, custom or branded. And I would highly recommend not to try and replicate it. Cause the boards have a lot of potential issues with long cables (coils add a meter or so easily) and poorly shielded connectors.

[sour bear]

so I should just stick with the default cable that comes with the keyboard?

[reef patrol]

Ideally? Yes. Definitely keep it around in case you want to look into something more exotic.

[sour bear]

Ok thanks for your advice 🙂

[stark bobcat]

Strap is not on correctly

[sour bear]

not mine, it's from the Youtuber Optimum Tech

[stark bobcat]

Lmfao

Riiight I think I heard about this it's so funny

[cursive summit]

https://www.phoronix.com/news/AMD-GPUOpen-Orochi-1.0

https://www.sammobile.com/news/samsung-ultimate-990-pro-ssd-official-coming-this-october/

Expensive af

Would rather get a WD Black

[tropic nacelle]

I mean they aren't in the same league right?

At most you could say the SN850 is competing with the 980 pro which is very similar in price.

The 990 looks significantly faster than the 980pro so will be significantly faster than the WD black.

It's a shame it's not PCIE5.0, I wouldn't buy something like this unless you somehow needed that specific boost which most do not.

[cursive summit]

You don't really need all that speed to be frank

WDs are well priced for the speed and size of the drives

This thing (990) just seem to ignore price effectiveness

[tropic nacelle]

Most top end SSDs do though, you charge high at launch and price tumbles over the year.

Same as every SSD launch to be honest!

Also the RRP isn't that high? SN850 launched for $200 for 1TB whereas the 990 is $179 for 1tb.

Hardly expensive af just normal launch price for something better by a few quid!

[deft marlin]

Razer - I’m aboutta ruin the CEOs whole career

[deft marlin]

I thought it would be PCIe 5.0

[lethal wasp]

have you lot see those ceramic keycaps? cerakey or w/e they're called

[shadow minnow]

Well, back when pcie 4 SSDs were first out they were starting at 400$

Got one 2tb for not as much cheaper

[tropic nacelle]

Yeah it's surprising it's not pcie5.0.

Seems like a missed opportunity, I assumed everyone was doing pcie5 now as it will be the norm

[ashen spindle]

why would it be pcie5, it does like 95% of what pcie4 can do but not more, so that would just increase cost for nothing

[tropic nacelle]

I mean I would have expected it to be past pcie4 limit now.

Although history normally repeats, they move to 4 when it made no difference (at the time) so I guess surprised they didn't this time

[ashen spindle]

if it was post pcie4 they wouldnt make it pcie4 since then they are advertising false speeds or use memory that they could use for a gen5 drive that is coming later in the year

[thick elk]

It probably helps a bit, the cache on higher end SSDs could probably saturate pci-e 5 which helps in some workloads (that would probably be better off in memory). also going with x2 or x1 increasing the number of drives would be more attractive .

be it at a larger cost

[ashen spindle]

the connectors are not x2 or x1 and you're not going to find any consumer board willing to ad cost to make even more slots that way that others might not be able to use

[reef patrol]

Unless they can successfully market them as being worth it of course 😄

Not like that'd be the first time.

[ashen spindle]

costs to much to take that risk on high cost boards and also isnt as easy as just adding some more chips to the board, signalling gets harder to to especially with gen5 and such

[thick elk]

Still I do agree pci-e 5 right now offers fairly little.

for consumers

[ashen spindle]

was the same with pcie4, it needs to be out before products with it can exist

[vagrant pagoda]

I own two 950 pro 2tbs

They were $1900

2tb is like 300 now

[vagrant pagoda]

I think I paid almost $500 for my first ssd, which was 120gb lol

[wheat plume]

wtf

oh, you mean back when SSDs were "new" or whatever the word is?

[vagrant pagoda]

Yeah

This was pre Taiwan tsunami

I ordered 5 Samsung f1 1tb and 1 120gb ssd

That was my big storage upgrade for my server at the time

[wheat plume]

o wow!

[thick elk]

Yay, the mmb on the mouse I rma'd less than a year ago died, I guess I will have to rma it again.
Nor real surprises here.

I shall see if they ask me to cut the cord again / let me repair it, so I have 3 of them.

[vagrant pagoda]

I mean cord is an easy fix

Also can you not just replace the mmb?

Or is it some goofy switch

[astral haven]

Neat
The ltt screwdriver is pretty darn good in project farm's testing

Only being beat by a screwdriver double the price

[chrome estuary]

it better be for 70$

[junior ore]

How is it tested exactly?

[vagrant pagoda]

Lookup project farm on YouTube

[vagrant pagoda]

70 is mid to high end for screw drivers

[astral haven]

It's definetly on the higher end for mechanical only ones

[vagrant pagoda]

I've done all the buttons on mine, took 4+ hours, but I bet I have the worst mouse to work on.

[reef patrol]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t03rmc-prJo

How I would have done my case if...
... I had years of experience with miniature and model sculpting and painting.
... a complete and utter disregard for cooling and airflow xD

[ashen spindle]

thankfully watercooling makes airflow a lot less relevant

[reef patrol]

cries in triple 360mm rad

[shadow minnow]

Cries in double one being really thick one kinda thick

[thick elk]

The previous one I RMA'd I had to cut the usb cable to proof I made it inoperable, It's basically a design / switch flaw, having a relatively long stem and a generic push switch on the mmb.
I did fix the cable and replace the switch on the on the previous one I broke, but after getting a replacement I used the replacement instead.
So now the switch on that one died again and I'll probably do the same as last time.
In case anyone is wondering the mouse I use is a roccat burst pro.

[pale sigil]

I need a new DAC

I would use my apple dongle but i rely way to much on me physical volume lol

[final flame]

dacs don't give physical volume, amps do

[pale sigil]

Well ye, i meant an interface in general.

I use a scarlett

[reef patrol]

A lot of us use ampdac combos cause we're lazy and lazy

[pale sigil]

I use it because i got it dirt cheap xD

25 quid like 5 years ago

[final flame]

I use a magni 3 and modi 3 stack

[vagrant pagoda]

what os

[pale sigil]

i would but its like impossible in the EU

[vagrant pagoda]

i use deej

mounted to the side of my twohe

[pale sigil]

Windows

[final flame]

the os wont change anything

[vagrant pagoda]

have 5 knobs

[vagrant pagoda]

deej is a software option to get physcial volume controls

so it dose

[pale sigil]

OS still wont.

Its open source :p

[final flame]

you're mixing up the hardware volume on the dongle and software volume control

[pale sigil]

https://github.com/omriharel/deej/

Am i looking at this?

[final flame]

most os's control them at the same time

[vagrant pagoda]

yeah but you wouldnt be asking here for help if you could port to to macos lol

[vagrant pagoda]

yes

it supports windows and linux

i have 5 knobs

top is windows total

[pale sigil]

ite knob ed

[vagrant pagoda]

second is mic level

third is top level window

forth is mumble

last it music

i love it

[final flame]

all this is is just controlling software volume with a hardware switch

[pale sigil]

He aint saying it aint afaik

i think this convo went off track.

I think he wanted to offer a simple solution to me using apple dongle and having a physical volume.

Not a general dac/amp solution

[vagrant pagoda]

exactly

plus more functionality

[pale sigil]

why did erik have to pick centos

xD

im installing the panel via docker atm

[cursive summit]

Do it proper

RME ADI-2 FS

This boyo is legendary

It does EQ, all kinds of stuff

I think on-hand EQ is why people love this thing so much

Just a single interface, dunno if you even need an amp after this

[frozen ingot]

https://www.rme-audio.de/images/products/products_fireface_uc_1b.jpg

I got this interface

could probably survive a nuclear war

[amber marsh]

you guys think the springs are worth it?

[astral haven]

Apple dongle changes output voltage significantly between oses

[astral haven]

The dac shouldn't be what you use for volume control, that would be the amp

[pale sigil]

used it for 5 years just fine.

I dont go past a certain point

[astral haven]

Also cx31993 > apple dongle

[reef patrol]

Very subjective and personal preference. I am definitely doing it for the lulz, and because I'm used to quite soft and sensitive switches. The kind where just hovering my fingers on the keycap will often cause video players to skip ahead suddenly 😄

[pale sigil]

i cant be the only one right

[ashen spindle]

yes

[pale sigil]

ok

[amber marsh]

ye, im using 45g actuation force switches rn

[reef patrol]

Something ain't reich, but I can't quite put my fuhrer on it.

[amber marsh]

so i think the 50g ones might be better for me - compared to 60

[shadow minnow]

Oof I don’t think they noticed but well hopefully they didn’t do it on purpose

[astral haven]

Yea yikes

[pale sigil]

Im glad its Quin being special and not me for once.

[ashen spindle]

what I mean its obvious to see

that doesnt happen by accident

[shadow minnow]

https://www.reddit.com/r/headphones/comments/tkwgvz/comment/i1wbwwo/

Hmm interesting

[shadow minnow]

Well I didn’t realize what was wrong until thinking of it tbh

[amber marsh]

didn't realized it either lmao

[pale sigil]

can someone help me with vim

[final flame]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=845HUaWYSQA

project farm did a video

[empty wren]

You just have weak wings

[reef patrol]

[frozen ingot]

where's the 500g switches

waited so long

[cursive summit]

That was a solid vidya

So yeah he confirmed one thing

It's overpriced

Solid quality, but you don't get what you pay for

Which is really like merch in general to be fair, it's not meant to be fairly priced

[vagrant pagoda]

I mean things get exponentially more expensive the better they get

30-40 is the golden area for racheting screw drivers

[cursive summit]

Idk man for something that's basically a rebrand of a 36$ tool it didn't seem that much better

That pro one seemed solid

Someone in the comments mentioned that pro screwdriver also comes with an improved version featuring a magnet, stronger tips, etc

[vagrant pagoda]

I mean it did better in every test than the one it's based off

[cursive summit]

Then again I can't ever imagine buying a screwdriver that expensive

10$ one from a supermarket has already lasted me years

[cursive summit]

Not 2x the price better

[junior ore]

Honestly. I want a ratcheting screwdriver

But not if its without warranty. Whats up with that warranty shiz that I hear?

[cursive summit]

Is "ratcheting" the click click click part?

Cause then I actually have one, for 10$

[junior ore]

Yissssssssssss

[cursive summit]

Seems good enough, though it's given me blisters the fucker

Handle's a piece of shit when you really want to jam something in

But that's tool misuse so that's on me

[ashen spindle]

you can also take away for half the price of the winner you get almost the same so it's pretty good value

and as was said more stuff gets exponentially more expensive

obviously not the product if you just need it once in a blue moon

[neat oriole]

Value is subjective, but yeah it’s pretty expensive. Granted it’s better than both of my ratcheting screw drivers, but idk if 50% better in terms of price

[cursive summit]

Yeah in general unless you are procuring one for your profession or hobby duties, so daily or common use

[final flame]

the issue is LTT isn't a large tool brand so, ordering in large volumes will bring the price down quite a bit

[cursive summit]

I don't see the point of investing so much in a thing you'll use maybe once a week at best

[neat oriole]

My wera was like $50, but the handle isn’t as comfortable, put together like a wind chime, ratchet is a little less smooth, and doesn’t hold as many bits

But also since I have a unit from the first batch of LTT screw drivers, I am eligible to get a second free of charge

So $35 for the LTT screw driver is pretty epic

[cursive summit]

35$?

How

[ashen spindle]

.

[cursive summit]

Was the first batch like cheaper or something?

[ashen spindle]

bruh

[cursive summit]

Yeah idk what kind of deal this is, where you pay 70$ for a screwdriver and get one free

But if anything that costs you 0$ in the end if you sell the second for what you paid for the first one

[neat oriole]

So basically they found a manufacturing defect with the first batch and so anyone who has one from the first batch can get a replacement for free and doesn’t have to send the original one back

[cursive summit]

Sounds oddly wooting

[neat oriole]

Mind you the defect doesn’t affect anything other than the tail cap has a slightly bigger gap

[cursive summit]

That's a pretty negligible defect

Will you sell the second and get your money back?

[neat oriole]

Nah, it’s like in extreme cases the bit holder assembly can shift down a bit

[cursive summit]

It does seem like a solid value for 35$ a piece

A really good one, in fact

But not for 70$, that's just too much

[ashen spindle]

what is it missing for the price to be justified in your eyes

[cursive summit]

Uhh, the price

It's a screwdriver wth would I need a 70$ one for

[neat oriole]

I think the larger gap is actually an improvement because it allows you to get your fingers in the gap and open the bit holder easier

[cursive summit]

Go to a hardware store and get a decent one for like 20$, will last 10 years

[astral haven]

Yea but if it saves me 10 mins a day for 20 years, it's worth to me

[cursive summit]

But... it doesn't

[neat oriole]

Idk about that my $20 dewalt’s ratchet shit the bed after a couple years and now jams frequently

Which is why I bought a wera

[ashen spindle]

you not needing the features is has like convenient bit storage, magnetized bits etc., doesnt make it bad value

[neat oriole]

And now I have the LTT one

[ashen spindle]

just no the tool for you in that case

[cursive summit]

Weird, I have a 15$ screwdriver with magnetized bits and a solid storage

I still fail to see why 70$ is a justified asking price for a thing 99% of people will use once in a blue moon

[astral haven]

If I have to remove and reinsert 40 screws daily and I can remove them just a tiny bit faster by not dropping them or anything I'll count it worth

[cursive summit]

That's fair, you prolly work in the industry

I don't, so I make by with a cheap ass one and it's good enough

[ashen spindle]

then it means the tool is not the needed choice for your usecase, not that it becomes overpriced for what it has, no?

[astral haven]

There's 3 groups of people he is selling to
People who buy fancy products because they hate supporting the manufacture of cheap garbage
people who need it for their work
And people who want to give money to see a product

[neat oriole]

I mean, it’s not targeted at the general public

[cursive summit]

I mean, it's still literally overpriced

[astral haven]

In what way

[cursive summit]

Pricing way

[neat oriole]

That’s like saying the wooting is over priced because it has features 99% of keyboard users won’t use

[astral haven]

It's only like 2% behind a $150 product that is pretty generally well regarded

[cursive summit]

It's nearly identical to something that costs 30$

Get some magnetized bits that are sold separately for what, 5$?

[astral haven]

It's also nearly identical to something that costs 150

And it's closer to the 150 one

[cursive summit]

That doesn't make the 150$ one any less overpriced either

[neat oriole]

Just because you don’t use it doesn’t mean it’s overpriced

Like that’s kinda of a 3head take

[ashen spindle]

so is wooting also overpriced because I can use a 10$ membrane board to code on?

[junior ore]

whats going on?

[cursive summit]

I mean, it's literally overpriced

[ashen spindle]

the logic doesnt add up

[neat oriole]

Value is subjective

[cursive summit]

Not cause I don't see any use for it, just cause something good quality that is comparable is literally half the price

[junior ore]

"overprice" is a comparison. what is the X and Y value?

[cursive summit]

LTTScrewdriver vs Megapro

[junior ore]

whats megapro?

[cursive summit]

70$ vs 35$ or so

[cursive summit]

Screwdriver

[junior ore]

whats the difference in features?

whats the difference in quality?

those are objective

[ashen spindle]

watch the video, they get compared

[astral haven]

Megapro doesn't have a magnetic head, has more slop in the ratchet mechanism, and is physically larger

[astral haven]

Observe

[junior ore]

right then there is basis for price difference.

[neat oriole]

No but because he subjectively prefers his cheap driver it’s objectively overpriced

[junior ore]

nah. it's from subjectively devaluing the differences to nothing so the only difference left is the double price.

[cursive summit]

You people seem incredibly rich so, whatever

[junior ore]

oh fuck no i'm not rich

[cursive summit]

Yeah neither am I, I am not spending 70 let alone 30 bucks for a damn screwdriver

[junior ore]

I'll take the 10 dollar racthet screwdriver

[ashen spindle]

if its expensive to you that doesnt change if its overpriced or not

[junior ore]

aye

[astral haven]

Lol I own like 4 servers and each of them cost less than the screwdriver
It's about what saves me time

[cursive summit]

It doesn't seem to do anything more than my 10$ one, so it does seem hella overpriced my lad

Unless it automatically removes the screw for me, I sure am not paying 7x more

[neat oriole]

Yeah that’s subjective, not objective

[junior ore]

it's all a matter if you can find one that is very close to it for cheaper price : then you can say it's over priced.

[cursive summit]

Uhhh

MegaPro for 35$

And a market bit pack for like 5$

[junior ore]

it's lacking the other features that were mentioned

[astral haven]

Magnet

[cursive summit]

Bit pack

Those sure as hell aren't expensive

[junior ore]

and whats that?

wait

you mean those

no

those things are shit

just buy a decent non-bank breakign screw driver and yer golden.

[astral haven]

Bits can't be made of magnetic material and remotely strong

[junior ore]

^^^^

and THE SMELL

[astral haven]

What

Magnetized iron and neodymium are both odorless

[junior ore]

if you buy cheapo bits or who-knows-what brand you can get bits that just. have this fuckin odor like isn't liek rusted iron but it's some kind of strong metal smell.

I don't know what it is

but I never bought it again

[astral haven]

That's just a coating

[junior ore]

maybe

it was terrible

goes back to building bookshelf

[astral haven]

Anyways the point is the process to magnetize both iron and neodymium causes it to be more brittle and weaker
The stronger the magnetism the more brittle

[vagrant pagoda]

Use use steel tips

And buy a magnetizer

[astral haven]

The exact opposite is true for conductivity of magnetic fields
Generally more magnetically conductive metals are stronger

[astral haven]

Find a magnitizer that fits inside the megapro driver holster

Cause if you leave the bits off the magnitizer for more than an hour or two it's gonna basically be demagnitized

Also again the higher the grade of steel the les you are able to magnitize it

[ashen spindle]

basically a part of the prize is justified by the QoL/timesave it offers compared to doing that and saving some bucks

[vagrant pagoda]

Why would I want that crappy pocket

[astral haven]

And it's still a better product by every metric that project farm tested besides shaft wobble which is a 3 way tie and slop in the locked position which ltt sacrifices to get significantly better ratchet back drwg

[vagrant pagoda]

And if the handle fits in the magnitizer will

[astral haven]

?

I'm talking about one of these

[vagrant pagoda]

Yeah

They are narrower than the handle

[astral haven]

These don't fit inside of the bit holder inside the megapro

[vagrant pagoda]

Again

Just stick it in with the driver

I have the klein one

It's a keychaib

I built a little slip cover to keep metal shavings off it

It just hangs on my backpack

[astral haven]

So you want me to pull out my driver and every time I use it, sit for 5 minutes waiting for it to magnetize strong enough to pick up my screws?

[vagrant pagoda]

I use it for all kinds of shit

It dosent take 5 minutes

It literally takes 5-10 swipes of the tip

And they stay magnetized for hours

[astral haven]

To magnitize the bit to 1200 grams of pickup???

No chance

[vagrant pagoda]

?

[astral haven]

That's the strength of the ltt magnet

It can pick up a screw that weighs a kg

[vagrant pagoda]

Though the tip?

Doubt

I can stick a magnet tip in any driver

[astral haven]

Oh wait no it was 90g through the tip

1.2kg to remove the tip itself

[vagrant pagoda]

Yeah

[astral haven]

There's no chance you can magnetize tool steel to that

[vagrant pagoda]

I just put a sleeve on if I needed thst

[astral haven]

The tip would have to be super soft

[vagrant pagoda]

There are so many times I don't want it magnetized

So I don't have any with magnets inside

[astral haven]

The point is this is an all in one package for building computers and racks

[vagrant pagoda]

Naver had an issues with the sticks magnitized

It will pick up any computer screw and cage nut screws

Plus my rack is almost all rack studs

[astral haven]

This would be very useful for anyone in PC and audio
Outside of that it's just a super fancy driver that is made in Canada and supports lab 32

[vagrant pagoda]

Other than stuff with threaded ears I haven't drilled out

[astral haven]

If you have a tool that works, there's no point, but if you are building a PC, this is one of the better ones

[vagrant pagoda]

I had stubby tips anyway

All mine are full length

[astral haven]

You can use full length bits if you want 🤷

[vagrant pagoda]

As in no shaft on the handle

Only tip

I have an older snapon set

And it had full length replacement tips

It's great

[astral haven]

The real winning feature of the ltt driver tho is the very smooth ratchet

[neat oriole]

Yeah I noticed that on the demo floor

[ashen spindle]

well its good to see the quality is quite good so lab hopefully has some good funds secured for a while and the first data should come out soon

wonder if they have transient spikes and such ready for gpu release

[astral haven]

Seening the power draw of the GPUs while running is gonna be super nice

[fickle ore]

tf, someone has prob blocked me who asked whatever question xD

[ashen spindle]

huh?

if someone blocks you you can still see their messages

I just was in a dungeon so couldnt type out earlier what I wanted to say

[fickle ore]

https://tenor.com/view/my-dungeon-awaits-gif-22233428

Ahh, dungeon dweller

[mild dome]

Reliability I think will be the big one, so many times with these ratchet screwdrivers I find the mechanism breaks down in less then a year. And we only use em like twice a month

[fickle ore]

Do the new ATX3.0 PSU's work with current mobos?

[ashen spindle]

you mean the 12VO connectors?

[mild dome]

Irc they only changed the pcie power connector

[fickle ore]

nop

or idk

[ashen spindle]

the different connector to the motherboard or the bigger pcie5 connector to the gpu

[astral haven]

Atx 3.0 is new GPU connector

[fickle ore]

I mean the ATX3.0 spec not the new weird spec

[astral haven]

Atx 12vo is new motherboard connector

[ashen spindle]

ah right its coming back to me

yeah that works, most psu so far just simply have an extra slot for that connector

and its just for the gpu, so your board wont matter

[fickle ore]

Mh

Those can be had without new mobo?

[astral haven]

No
But the psu itself will still work

[fickle ore]

Ah :F

[astral haven]

If you have an amd CPU it won't work anyways lel

Agesa Borks most PSU power down modes

[fickle ore]

Most of those on list I assume will work without a new mobo tho. Like the efficiency & slew rates for transient loads, etc, etc.

[ashen spindle]

newer specs also doesnt necessarily mean current good psus dont have that

[astral haven]

^

[fickle ore]

Sure sure. Mine is really good. But it's 660W and around 8 years old now.

May need to get a new one might aswell grab ATX 3.0 one.

[ashen spindle]

meh, wouldn't look out for that specifically

some idk seasonic titanium option will likely be better than just looking for rando atx3.0 psu

I guess if you want a 4080 or similar might as well get it for an easier cable management

[fickle ore]

The announced ATX 3.0 ones seems to be all gold or platinum (seasonic). Only ASUS has a titanium. https://overclock3d.net/news/power_supply/rog_s_sfx-l_loki_power_supplies_are_now_available_-_up_to_1200w_of_power_for_mini_pcs/1

[astral haven]

The new specs only really help allow cheaper designs to do lower power idle
Really good psus like the good seasonics, rmx or axi will still basically match or be better than than rando 3.0s

[ashen spindle]

oh I meant current ones, idk what new ones are that companies announced so far

[fickle ore]

Ye I understood, just saying. Ye I'm looking at titanium ones atm.

[astral haven]

Also that's an sfx

Techpowerup and tomshardware already have really good psus testing that you can check

[fickle ore]

Ye I used to read jonnyguru back in the day

[ashen spindle]

we also likely get some more releases or at least announcements when we get the first gpus so wouldn't bother looking around before that

[astral haven]

Yep

[ashen spindle]

also if you want a new gpu gotta wait to know power draw anyway

[pale sigil]

RIP

looks like my 500gb SSD is fucked

cant mount it on anything and windows fresks out

10/10

[astral haven]

Testdisk time if you have anything on there of importance

[pale sigil]

only my steam deck windows instakk

install

Wow my ssd was one year out out warrnty

talk about shit timing

[mild dome]

You have found yourself on the wrong side of the bathtub of Reliability

[empty wren]

Snap back to reality, oop there goes gravity

[pale sigil]

It is annoying though.
Im glad i stopped using this SSD months ago...
I used it for all my user data....

[astral haven]

Backups backups baskups

[pale sigil]

i do

its all on my nas, but recovering would have been slow.

but i migrated everything to my NAS anyway, literally no user data is on my disks, not even nvidia replays.

[astral haven]

Make sure to back up your nas

[lost mauve]

o

[vagrant pagoda]

tape fo life!

[astral haven]

In 2022? Tape can get bent

[vagrant pagoda]

best density

[astral haven]

Nope

[vagrant pagoda]

well other than crazy money ssds

[astral haven]

Computational and temporal deduplication that you can do with hdds now makes them better

[vagrant pagoda]

my nas is 12 10TB drives, other than 12 more 10tb drives there isnt an easy way to backthat up

a broken lto libary that just needed a cleaning is cheap

and dose it in 2u

its like 200TB max if i filled it with tapes

but im using 7 tapes in an 8

with 8 tapes it would be more

[astral haven]

You can fit a petabyte of hdds in 5u

[vagrant pagoda]

yeah

and hdds cost a lot more than tape

[astral haven]

But you get a lot better compression ratio

[vagrant pagoda]

what compression

i just keep a single full backup

then incrementals

you arent compressing the data i have much more than it is

its all compressed video from cameras

[astral haven]

That's a super waste if you aren't using zfs for block level dedupe

I consider deduplication to be compression

[vagrant pagoda]

dedup on compressed video

sounds great lol

[astral haven]

You'd be surprised

There's only so many 4k blocks that exist

[vagrant pagoda]

or

for less money

i can put it on tape

[astral haven]

"less money"

How much less

[vagrant pagoda]

even if you could get 5 to 1 dedup with magic

tape is cheaper

[astral haven]

[citation needed]

Each tape is $50ish
The drive is like 2.5-4k

To fit 200tb in 8 drives you need lto9

Wait

No

Not even lto9 fits 200tb in 8 drives

The heck are you using

[vagrant pagoda]

https://www.ebay.com/itm/133001700750 + 10 tapes for 50 is ~1000 bucks for 120TB

granted that has 50 slots

so 3 grand for 600TB

[astral haven]

That's pretty good, but you can't do computational magic on that

[vagrant pagoda]

dont need it

[astral haven]

For 3 grand you can store several years of backups of 200tb on hdds

[vagrant pagoda]

doubt

you arent even going to get 2:1 on dedup

[astral haven]

Zfs does magic

[vagrant pagoda]

so me any source of getting close to 2:1 on compressed video

[astral haven]

It's not video, it's website data, but the internet archive went from about 1:2 to 10:1 moving to zfs

[vagrant pagoda]

yeah raw text

[astral haven]

By 1:2 meaning it took 2tb to store 1tb of data

[vagrant pagoda]

very close to compressed video

[astral haven]

Sure but when you are dealing with hundreds of tb, dedupe is a lifesaver

Ltt was storing something like 1.4pb of data on a server with 860tb of useable space

May have been 1.2pb

Don't remember numbers
But it was a crazy lot of data that they could have lost if the server had crashed any harder

[vagrant pagoda]

that would be raw video there

[astral haven]

Significantly more than the raw storage of the server, and they had a lot of parity and spare drives

Also regarding the tape library there
How tf do you fit 50 drives in there?

And how tf do you interface with it

[vagrant pagoda]

lol

that was just the first thing i saw

that wasnt a recommendation

i paid around the same for mine

and it just needed cleaning

[final flame]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NONM-xsKMSs

starlink livestream rn

[true quest]

i tune in three seconds before landing

[empty wren]

[vagrant pagoda]

it was pretty

[astral haven]

Ok but for that price you can go and find a few lots of gigantic capacity drives on eBay and a few disk shelves
I found 40 6tb drives on eBay for about 1400 and using disk shelves you can attach it directly
Or you can be like me and find a 45 drive server at auction for less than a hundo and bam 360tb for 1.5k

[fair gull]

u can actually buy tons of big disks in usb form aswell as many chia farms just sell their shit atm due to not worth

altho rn im looking for round 23 2.5inch hdd sata or better yet sas as high cap as possible

[cursive summit]

https://www.theverge.com/2022/9/3/23336007/google-pixel-7-pro-unboxing-video-launch-leak-rumors

Is it still shit, though

[empty wren]

Probably

Google needs to be serious about fixing bugs

[tropic nacelle]

No doubt it's bad.
Wait for everyone to ignore the poor radio performance until a week after launch and then Google promise it will fix in the next update that will be delayed and eventually roll out but not fix it.

It's solidified my normal thinking of buy what it is today not what is promised tomorrow.

[vagrant pagoda]

My chinese rugged phone has so much better antennas than any flagship its insane

i can be standing next to my buddy with his s22 ultra

he has 1 bar can barely load pages, i have 4/5 and get 50+mbit

[tropic nacelle]

Same network? And exynos or snapdragon Samsung?

[vagrant pagoda]

think us is only SD right?

both on tmobile

[halcyon moss]

maybe china phone lies :p

[vagrant pagoda]

lol

faking speed tests like a boss

i think its more like it 3 times a thicc

and 4 times as heavy

[tropic nacelle]

That probably helps a lot then as you have more area for antenna.

Yeah US are snapdragon, which would be surprisingly as Qualcomm radios are excellent really.

[junior ore]

right on 😄 last spider-man game I played was the 2000 N64/PS1/PC/MacOS/Dreamcast one. how's it fair in comparison?

[junior ore]

what platform you playing it on?

[ashen spindle]

its a next gen console title so just get a next gen gpu and it will be fine

[empty wren]

Security updates*

[frozen ingot]

well its only going to work on companies selling their stuff via EU vendors

good luck enforcing it on chinese imports and the likes

[empty wren]

I mean even still

Though I will be honest

Not that big of deal jow

Play updates come every month

Most of the baggage is in there now

[shadow minnow]

Why isn’t gain the main parameter instead of volume?

[final flame]

gain is the file, volume is the hardware

[shadow minnow]

But especially with audio devices, like when you go from microphone to speaker

If you go with volume bit too high or too low sound is bad and you always have to change gain nontheless when the person speaks bit more loud or less

[wheat plume]

https://www.androidauthority.com/eu-smartphone-updates-rules-3205112/

Hell yeh

[ashen spindle]

hasn't even been 20 minutes since that was talked about..

[cursive summit]

At least she linked an article

Not a screenshot of an image in an article and 5 words describing it

[wheat plume]

I assume if you import a phone from outside the EU it wont get these updates

But any brand that officially sells in the EU must do this

[frozen ingot]

yup buying phone from wish, aliexpress or something and you most likely won't see this

unless the companies selling there makes it a selling point on their phones to appeal to more EU buyers

[wheat plume]

but then its AlieExpress and they probably are lying about it

even if they say it

[frozen ingot]

kinda depends on the honesty of the individual seller you buy from, but yeah some sure like to "enhance" the truth about their products

[thick elk]

That EU legislation is still in the feedback phase and one thing to note is the 3-5 years is not from the moment the phone is released, but rather from the point it no longer gets sold.
So if I phone stays on the market for 2 years, that would be 5-7 in total.

[fair gull]

its lana what did u expect

[ashen spindle]

well the consistency is impressing so I gotta keep up with it

[glad scroll]

That's awesome! Although knowing it is the EU, it will probably take a decade before it is implemented :(

[frozen ingot]

they've been rather quick at implementing new restrictions in more recent years imo

like banning the additive they used in the cock brand sriracha

fuck you european parliament, it wasn't hurting nobody!

[glad scroll]

I'm not so sure, that type-c stuff has been going on for a long while

[astral haven]

It was referended for a while before they decided to actually go through with it

[pale sigil]

https://www.jsaux.com/products/m-2-docking-station-for-steam-deck-hb0604

https://tenor.com/view/this-is-getting-out-of-hand-star-wars-viceroy-jedi-sith-gif-11488732

[astral haven]

Inland premium m.2s are goated

[halcyon moss]

you only have certain games when you're docked 🤦

[halcyon moss]

ubuntu's snap update nagging is annoying

"Close the app so we can update!"
"ok, close, how do i update?"
app does not update

[wheat plume]

Fuck snaps .-.

I don't lie flatpak either
Mostly cause they cannot use the cursor and icon theme you apply system wide

But they are better than snap

[junior ore]

Whats the issue with flatpak?

[wheat plume]

I just don't like that they only use tie hideous default x cursor theme if you are not using one of the few supported cursor themes as your default

I use the Bibata cursor and flatpak doesn't have support for that

It also doesn't seem to support Papirus icons either
So the icons are Adwaita on flatpaks

[junior ore]

@wheat plume why are you tied to only using cursors from flatpak?

[wheat plume]

Cause if you don't, the flatpak apps use the really ugly X cursor theme

[junior ore]

this is confusing to me honestly. Why would it be flatpaks?

like.

what are you using?

whats your distro?

cause even on my steam deck I can just change the cursors to whatever I want if I felt like it.

and its KDE, not flatpak

[wheat plume]

....
You aren't getting it

You can change cursors on Linux in every desktop

But flatpak apps can only use a handful of cursor themes

So you are likely to select a cursor theme that flatpak doesn't have so any flatpak apps use the default X cursor

But native apps used the one you selected

So as soon as the cursor moves over a flatpak app window, it'll change to the X cursor instead and then back to the one you changed in kde once it's not on the window

[wheat plume]

🤔

hhhm

xd

[crimson wigeon]

Cursor stuff is such a mess and I wish it wasn't..

Wayland doesn't make it any better sadly

[wheat plume]

This happens on Wayland too ;-;

Bibata cursor VS Default cursor that shows on Flatpak apps

[junior ore]

@wheat plume oooooohh okay. So whenever you use an app installed from flatpak : vursor stuff changes?

[wheat plume]

ye

[thick elk]

I messed with flatpaks years ago, have not used them recently but their sandboxing was rather annoying back then.

GTK2 apps not using themes was one issue

[wheat plume]

https://youtu.be/a0zrnEnUiYo

it's a beauty <3

[wheat plume]

how do you make a search bar like this on win 11??

[reef patrol]

It's centered by default?

[wheat plume]

I literally said search bar

[reef patrol]

You right click the taskbar, search and then display search

Not sure why you'd want it though.

[wheat plume]

oh hmm

[reef patrol]

I just hit WIN and start typing. Instant search

[wheat plume]

same xd

well sometimes alt+space

xd

the downsides are mostly the OS not taking the most advantage of the form factor and the slightly more fragile hinge