if difficult involves paying some scalping jerk fivefold.. yeah i’ll pass
#🔌│tech
reef patrol
Yep. You basically solder the PCB and the Pi together and program it with a simple script that converts signals and then have a USB cable go out from that out of the board.
junior ore
nice nice
Though I think there's already methods where you don't need a whole pi. I believe you can just find simple small boards.
reef patrol
Yeah there are tiny arduino boards.
junior ore
like one of these. converts XT/AT/PS2/Terminal to USB
reef patrol
Yep. Those 😄
misty saffron
arduino boards usually aren’t fast enough
reef patrol
I just like the idea of being able to run a Mac from INSIDE of the keyboard.
misty saffron
oh yeah, ps/2 doesn’t really require speed
reef patrol
The Macintosh Plus I have has a blisteringly fast 8Mhz Motorolla 68000 CPU. Very easy to fully emulate on any pi 😄
misty saffron
i tried making an xbox to ps1 controller conversion thing with an arduino board, thing was too slow
junior ore
I just like the idea of being able to run a Mac from INSIDE of the keyboard.
thats an idea I can get behind myself too. and it reminds me of when in older MAC days you could legit buy PCI expansion modules for Macintoshes that were complete single-board-computers specifically to have Windows/DOS on it.
misty saffron
too slow FOR THE PS1 PART
junior ore
wait like. connecting an xbox to ps1 or vice versa?
misty saffron
an xbox controller to ps1
it quickly fell apart when i wasn’t able to communicate with the ps1
reef patrol
But before I get that far I gotta finish off my Faux Macintosh Plus project. Basically gutted one completely and replaced the old CRT monitor with an iPad LCD and a potential Raspberry Pi inside (It can fit a compact mITX PC if I wanted to)
misty saffron
still need to get a crt tv at my new place… have a psio-modded ps1 yet i literally don’t have a tv
junior ore
which macintosh? the original all in one rectangle?
reef patrol
This boye
misty saffron
please stop baiting me into collecting ancient shit again
junior ore
one of which was filled with vintage old as dirt porn which showed instantly as soon as i repaired and booted it.
final flame
I have a Nvidia TNT 2 on my shelf
junior ore
nice!
reef patrol
I still need to buy a 3D Printer, so I can mount everything internally. But it's all working (I need to get a better driver to shrink the LCD output to fit the bezels)
junior ore
I have a bunch of old hardware but I recently moved so I'd have to find them again .
misty saffron
thanks for reminding me to take the slim ps2 from parents’ house though
junior ore
very nice mansen
misty saffron
at least that has cheap hdmi converters
junior ore
thanks for reminding me to take the slim ps2 from parents’ house though
If you are near the north side of Florida I got a spare CRT that has to go
reef patrol
I love reusing old tech. Literally grabbed this LCD from a dead iPad for free at work and bought a 15$ conversion board on Aliexpress that turns it into HDMI 😄
misty saffron
If you are near the north side of Florida I got a spare CRT that has to go
i am near the north side of moscow
junior ore
oof
tepid violet
not too far
final flame
I am on the south side of Texas
junior ore
sounds difficult to get a good CRT there
misty saffron
not really, just the hassle of getting it back home
i don’t have or plan on buying a car
misty saffron
so far i’ve been surprised by the fact you can get seemingly anything in moscow
also sell anything locally in a day
junior ore
i don’t have or plan on buying a car
same here \o/
but yeah I plan to eventually get my retro PC up and running again
and get it to dual-boot DOS and 98se
but it had too much issues with DOS
and I gotta beef up and get up and running the PowerPC macintosh that i have
misty saffron
I love reusing old tech. Literally grabbed this LCD from a dead iPad for free at...
do you have a link, by the way?
also have a useless ipad mini
reef patrol
For the LCD converter? They are specific to each iPad revision.
misty saffron
ah
reef patrol
You'd be best off searching based on the Axxx model number of the iPad.
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/32710145997.html
This was the one I got I think. I have like 10 URLs bookmarked and most are dead.
reef patrol
Yup. Literally plug and play with the ribbon cable that goes from the LCD.
My challenge is making a mount for everything. The LCD to the case, the two controller boards to the back of the LCD and so on.
Gotta get a 3D printer next time there's a big sale and work on some brackets.
junior ore
I gotta retrofit an old ipod I got. bad disk drive.
misty saffron
i’m sure you can get somebody to design you the mounting brackets
surely there are cad files for the macintosh cases
misty saffron
I gotta retrofit an old ipod I got. bad disk drive.
which of the two? 
reef patrol
I'm sure I can find something - But there's just so much waiting and reprinting and shipping involved. I'd rather just be able to do prints at home and then ask for help with adjusting the file slightly based on a visual comparison 😄
junior ore
lol probably the smaller one. It's not an original IPOD. I believe it's an IPOD "Classic" , bulky throwback to original but at-time modernized.
misty saffron
nah, the bigger one
misty saffron
yes
junior ore
i hadn't opened it up yet.
junior ore
case is in good condition so it's fine. though if I did, I'd find some.. idunno, fancy metal based one.
like the gameboy metal ones
misty saffron
i can recommend getting an ipod mini instead if you’re modding it just for the sake of modding it
misty saffron
which of the two? <:dogekek:846285268289323069>
they have the smaller drive
junior ore
I've looked this up before but have forgotten for a year >.>
but compact flash drives : been meaning to look into that for my DOS project before.
junior ore
I think there is some pins differences? i'd have to check
valid light
hi
junior ore
trying to get the exact specs
@misty saffron IDE for normal 3.5 inch drives are at 40 pins but laptop IDEs are at 44 pins. which I assume the extras are power based ones.
misty saffron
likely just a molex+ide child
junior ore
I assume higher data throughput
cursive summit
prisma blade
Can I change A1, A2 and A3 buttons to Open Browser/Calculator or is it just for the three analog profiles?
I have a Wooting Two HE
crimson wigeon
Yes
junior ore
and by 'humble' does it mean he doesn't write his own 7 figure checks while firing employees citing lack of funding?
wheat plume
^?
mild dome
Don't worry guys, he's gonna look so down to earth while selling advertisement space to hostile nations intending to further manipulate and divide America
deft marlin
Don't worry guys, he's gonna look so down to earth while selling advertisement s...
He’d make a great profit off of aliens should he encounter some
That is, those that came to the Milky Way, or the solar system or earth for a school trip
if they know what’s rigged and what’s not he’d probably be shot
slow garnet
Does anyone know how to manually generate a protobuf message (as in, no programs, only a text editor) for use in a URL? I'm trying to generate one, but I'm having no luck as of right now, even when following the documentation.
mossy prawn
Hey guys, would you use watercooling for a 2,5k€ gaming pc?
deft marlin
Hey guys, would you use watercooling for a 2,5k€ gaming pc?
what specs are in it
mossy prawn
what specs are in it
i7-12700kf, rx6900 xt (16gb), 32gb ddr4 (3600Mhz), msi pro z690-p ddr4
deft marlin
i7-12700kf, rx6900 xt (16gb), 32gb ddr4 (3600Mhz), msi pro z690-p ddr4
what do you plan to do with it?
Video editing, photo editing, music production, rendering, developing, machine learning and the like would fare well with an AIO
tbf you did mention a 6900XT in the back so yes you'd watercool that
buuuut if you barely use the dGPU its better off thats sold and a cheaper one bought'
fair gull
Does anyone know how to manually generate a protobuf message (as in, no programs...
arent protobufs send via the body field of a post request?
i misremembered they are raw byte streams
ya i dont think those work in urls
astral haven
You missed the meme...
reef patrol
The meme?
astral haven
It keeps getting repeated and still hasn't come true
reef patrol
It keeps getting repeated and still hasn't come true
Except the article clearly states why it IS happening 😛
astral haven
And the articles 6 years ago did too
reef patrol
Good for you? This time there's an actual deadline.
astral haven
There was a deadline in 2016 too
reef patrol
👌
astral haven
I believe there was another scare last year too
And also in 2019
reef patrol
halcyon moss
not enough webdevs know about example.com
The domain names example.com, example.net, example.org, and example.edu are second-level domain names in the Domain Name System of the Internet. They are reserved by the Internet Assigned Numbers Authority at the direction of the Internet Engineering Task Force as special-use domain names for documentation purposes
halcyon moss
I believe there was another scare last year too
And also in 2019
the more ppl switch to firefox, the less chance this has to actually happen
astral haven
Yes but the more people switch to Firefox the more issues I have to fix...
astral haven
Firefox has been relegated to iexplore.exe replacement for me
Using a really old version that still supports tls 1.0
Mostly crashing
But there are quite a few broken webpages, either from switching tabs then coming back hours later or just plain laggy
There are also issues with SSO for logging in for all sorts of sites
I've 9nly had the whole browser lock up twice
But ive frequently had individual webpages lock up
Our helpdesk is a website that is highly nested and extremely bloated and Firefox just gives up on it too frequently
Opening up 30 tickets for mass updating causes my computer to whine hard
Firefox just doesn't load the pages
mild dome
I would've switched, but I have 100 tabs open I don't want to close yet
Help me :c
astral haven
Ikr
I try to force myself to close all my open windows, but I still generally end up with 3 different windows each with 12 tabs in the morning :/
mild dome
But I'll ready that tab later
I tell myself
For 2 years
I am a digital hoarder
solar hinge
does anyone here know how to turn on call recording on samsung s22 ?
solar hinge
Is... is that not just a button to press during a call on the screen?
nah man, most phone companies block this
solar hinge
or do you have it available on your phone? for my OP7pro i had to activate it with a tool
reef patrol
It's just always been there alongside mute and speaker mode.
solar hinge
and every bigger update i had to do it again
solar hinge
do you always set it to denmark when you set up the phone?
solar hinge
dunno of course, plenty of people don't 😛
i set mine to th enetherlands
and it's legal in the netherlands to record phone calls so
this would probably say it doesn't natively work for EU ? (well eux, don't know if that includes denmark) https://www.artushfoto.eu/Blog/Enable-native-call-recording-SAMSUNG-Galaxy-S22
fair gull
glad i dont know shit about it
reef patrol
Just used to using OU tbh 😄
wheat plume
its a month later and reviewers are still bashing the 60Hz on the Pixel 6A
🤦♀️
How about bashing Apple for selling a phone that costs $1000 with a 60Hz screen instead?
6A is $450
cursive summit
How about we bash both for shit phones, Lana
frozen ingot
why do you even need high refresh rate on a phone
cursive summit
Also who cares about a 60Hz screen, my tablet costs 1000$ and I have disabled 120Hz for battery
crimson wigeon
Silky smooth touch screen action
frozen ingot
like I'd want even worse battery life than I already have
wheat plume
Silky smooth touch screen action
you realise that touch sample rate can be different to screen refresh rate?
A lot of new phones sample the touchscreen at 120Hz
to be more responsive to touches
usually its set to double the refresh rate
cursive summit
I thought phones reach 360Hz sample rate nowadays
wheat plume
Yeh, if the refresh rate is 120
crimson wigeon
I like my 90hz phoon display, finger scrolling is nice and smooth
wheat plume
its usually double
reef patrol
Meanwhile OnePlus be like - variable FPS? Sure we can!
cursive summit
I like my 90hz phoon display, finger scrolling is nice and smooth
Is that a speed demon reference?
reef patrol
It drops to nothing when you're not scrolling or watching something that can't handle it.
I can literally see my phone flicker in "at a glance" mode 😄
wheat plume
yeh, I like variable
frozen ingot
I haven't noticed my 60hz display being choppy or not smooth tbh
wheat plume
^
crimson wigeon
That I wonder how much VRR displays help with battery life
wheat plume
except when MIUI stutters .-.
cursive summit
He runs mid, through the connector!
cursive summit
Like a speed demon
reef patrol
I honestly wish I could crap on OP for making such a gimmick sounding feature. But aside from the flicker when looking at night at the time? I genuinely can't feel or see any issues.
wheat plume
I do like variable refresh , especially when the phone has a display that can handle it like LTPO or whatever it's called
reef patrol
Same if the FPS is static. But with variable you could fool me into saying anything is 90hz
Clearly it's managing to get ahead of my finger and slow movements 😄
frozen ingot
right, its "nicer" but ultimately kind of pointless for using a phone
I'd rather pay less and have better battery life kthx
reef patrol
Nice can be a feature.-
I can use a button push phone and still get calls and text. But I don't WANT to 😛
frozen ingot
its not that I don't appreciate higher refresh rate, using 60hz on a computer is painful particularly for gaming
wheat plume
Yeah....I love my 165Hz xd
frozen ingot
but probably 95% of my time on phone is spent looking at static images or video with framerates far below 60fps anyways
wheat plume
^
Oppo doing hole punch notches very incorrectly
there is 0 padding under the notch
It will wither away faster than my erection whenever James Corbin pops into my brain
Tech Spurt - 2022
cursive summit
Apple's already forced to adopt USB-C
And they are going to
Idk why would the headline be "could force", if the regulation already sparked change
junior ore
bad journalism*
ashen spindle
because EU rules dont really apply in india
cursive summit
I doubt that Apple will design phones differently between regions
ashen spindle
also the eu legislation still needs to be approved
junior ore
Dr.Quinn speaks the truth on this me thinks. it is possible and within Apple's power to make regional phone differences.
But, logistically, it would be a bad move. but within possibility.
ashen spindle
I dont think they would but theres just nothing wrong with the headline
junior ore
this is true too. and it's a consideration. which I believe should be pushed and followed too.
E-waste is such an issue and apple far from helps solve its and has made it worse despite their claims of not doing so.
they've been constantly fighting against the reduction of it from the start ever since everyone's finally moved off from proprietary phone chargers way back when USB mini came out.
cursive summit
https://www.notebookcheck.net/Apple-iPad-10-specs-leak-reveals-USB-C-port-presence-A14-Bionic-chip-and-M2-iPad-Pro-announcement-date.640822.0.html, https://www.zdnet.com/article/apple-looks-to-make-money-from-the-switch-to-usb-c/, https://weraveyou.com/tech/apple-phasing-out-lightning-usb-c/
There were tons of articles weeks back about how Apple is making the switch
India won't change the fact that they already are going to do so anyways
ashen spindle
and?
cursive summit
It's funny cause
The same website posted about it 3 weeks ago
That they are already switching
So, "Will force them to switch"
I dislike stupid journalism so just ranting a bit
ashen spindle
so what if the switch only comes because they are forced to and if it wouldn't be discussed they wouldnt make the change
this isn't contradicting each other
sure maybe throw in a slightly different description to show indias regulation is not the first that could force it or something so its a better title
but its not bad journalism
junior ore
Sounds like a mix or perhaps two different people, I didn't go so far as to see who wrote it and all that.
usually these things would have multiple different people writing these things.
cursive summit
Imagine Intel sells x86 license to Nvidia for like 100B
Not quite x86_64 which I think AMD owns the license for
But even then, dunno what Nvidia would do with that license
ashen spindle
what are you smoking
cursive summit
They'd prolly invest into arm instead
stark bobcat
what are you smoking
☝️
shadow minnow
They'd prolly invest into arm instead
Yeah I don’t think nvidia would want that for that money
cursive summit
Eh yeah ARM can already run Windows
shadow minnow
Well
cursive summit
So Nvidia would just rather improve upon that and manufacture Arm CPUs, if they ever wanted to
Doesn't appear they really want to
astral haven
X86 doesn't matter at all
shadow minnow
Arm can run windows on arm
And it’s like macOS with compatibility but more random
Like it can run more things
crimson wigeon
RISC-V pepelaugh
astral haven
The problem is that Intel and amd have a 40 year lead on making scalar processors
shadow minnow
But you have no idea if most will run
Because most apps for normal windows have like 50% chance of running from my experience
astral haven
Because noone cares to build for it because arm is sloooow
shadow minnow
RISC-V pepelaugh
Well it’s not as different. Already many companies I think including nvidia invested in it too.
shadow minnow
Because noone cares to build for it because arm is sloooow
Well that’s not true, arm can get pretty fast
astral haven
Nope
shadow minnow
Server CPUs, apple silicone and more
astral haven
Arm can get high bandwidth
junior ore
which server CPUs?
astral haven
There's a huuuge difference between fast and high bandwidth
astral haven
which server CPUs?
Graviton, ampere
Servers don't care about fast outside of mainframes
Servers need bandwidth
shadow minnow
Multi core in benchmarks m1 pro beasts 11900k
Which at the time was the newest Intel flagship.
Sure it’s not anymore still that’s quite good for a laptop chip imo
astral haven
There's a ***huuuge difference*** between fast and high bandwidth
You entirely missed what I said
junior ore
I'm hearing two conversations then. One on commercial grade stuff and the other on consumer. Someone needs to pick one.
shadow minnow
You entirely missed what I said
Well what do you mean by fast then if not stuff like benchmarks?
astral haven
Yes but the important part is the type of benchmark
shadow minnow
Well I tested it in geekbench since runs on both OS, but can test on anything else too if there are suggestions
ashen spindle
youre also talking about cpus on very different nodes
astral haven
Well I tested it in geekbench since runs on both OS, but can test on anything el...
Bandwidth benchmarks are fine which is what Geekbench is
Throughput is useful
shadow minnow
Blame Intel
ashen spindle
thats not good conditions to comp[are uarchs
shadow minnow
Blame Intel <:dogekek:846285268289323069>
For the node I mean
astral haven
87,885,887
This is the number of iterations of a prime seive a 5950s can run on 1 core in 1 second
shadow minnow
youre also talking about cpus on very different nodes
It’s well effectively 10nm against 5nm which isn’t so fair tbf
shadow minnow
87,885,887
This is the number of iterations of a prime seive a 5950s can run on ...
How much is it on m1? Or any benchmark that can test it?
astral haven
4 million primes takes 3 seconds...
junior ore
Are we really comparing the M1 to server chips?
astral haven
What
ashen spindle
what
astral haven
The 5950x is a consumer chip
shadow minnow
Send link to benchmark
shadow minnow
Send link to benchmark
Wanna try
astral haven
/ SZ = 1000 -> 3713160 primes, all primes up to 7919^2 = 62710561
// 2.735 sec i7 8650U @ 4.2 GHz 242 bytes 11.5 billion clocks
// 2.795 sec Mac Mini M1 @ 3.2 GHz 212 bytes 8.9 billion clocks
// 2.810 sec Mac Mini M1 arm64 Ubuntu in VM 280 bytes 9.0 billion clocks
https://github.com/luizsol/PrimesResult
Here's the code
junior ore
And what exactly is "primes"?
junior ore
Oh wait this rings a bell
Yeah yeah.
I think i ran it once before to stress test the 1600x way back, when i was troubleshooting
junior ore
Ah that was it! Prime95
astral haven
Prime95 is a slower algorithm that is better for bigger primes
astral haven
For the first benchmark with the m1 and Skylake mobile CPU lower is better
For Dave plumbers version, higher is better
The fastest arm seive I can find is 20m/second
For the davepl seive
ashen spindle
and just as a reminder amd and intel are also very well capable of making arm chips, they say like every year when they get asked if they would consider it
ashen spindle
if the licensing wasnt a thing I'm willing to bet m1 might've been x86 depending on what workers they could have gotten
not saying it would've definitely been, but theres a good chance
astral haven
They (amd and Intel) could probably make an arm CPU in about a year that performs identically to their x86 cpus but it would likely use more power
It's really just a question of microcode
The CPUs are interpreted and ooe either way
junior ore
Is ARM worth it if it causes extra power consumption?
astral haven
If they were to design the CPUs from scratch it would be the same power for the same performance
If they reused an x86 design for arm it would be less efficient
ashen spindle
instruction set basically does not matter for general purpose cpus, experience, node etc. matters way more
junior ore
Would be some need or future proofing to go with ARM over x86, or potential big development with the architecture?
astral haven
Either way the speedups in modern processors is accelerators not general compute
junior ore
Trying to think why they would need to go with ARM besides I guess slice fo the mobile market.
astral haven
Would be some need or future proofing to go with ARM over x86, or potential big ...
Holy shit read what we are typing
It
Doesn't
Matter
ashen spindle
arm exists because x86 is licensed
junior ore
oooohhh, now that is a big difference.
ashen spindle
are you intel or amd? no? then you cant use x86
junior ore
I didn't know x86 was a license thing.
astral haven
Trying to think why they would need to go with ARM besides I guess slice fo the ...
If you need fast, use an accelerator
That's how phones work
cursive summit
are you intel or amd? no? then you cant use x86
Technically
astral haven
I didn't know x86 was a license thing.
Arm is licensed too
cursive summit
Some chinese companies have x64 licenses
cursive summit
Idk how AMD went about to give them that license
astral haven
No
ashen spindle
if you want to get technically get your technicalities correct 😛
junior ore
hold on i'mma just look it up. I'm just trying to get various inputs and info.
astral haven
But via was just outright worse back then and faded into being just a chipset maker, then a patent troll
junior ore
wait, Via as in Via Com?
astral haven
No
astral haven
Patent troll and make USB controllers
fair gull
how far theyve fallen
astral haven
🤷 better making new stuff then literally just cloning Intel chips
fair gull
nowadays they are borderline known tho
junior ore
ooooooohhh yeah now I recognize that logo. Seen it bunch on chips. makes sense.
cursive summit
Looks like Via is still doing microprocessor business stuff
astral haven
Wellll
astral haven
ooooooohhh yeah now I recognize that logo. Seen it bunch on chips. makes sens...
It's also very similar to the micron logo
And micron is a muuuuuuuch larger company
astral haven
junior ore
yeee
cursive summit
Hold on a second
VIA makes their own microprocessors
And they are releasing a product that uses a.. MediaTek processor
astral haven
Yep
junior ore
never underestimate the companies behind chips. especially old ones.
astral haven
They make the chipset
Think USB and ethernet
astral haven
never underestimate the companies behind chips. especially old ones.
It's beyond easy to overestimate via
fair gull
via is more like a fairytale
junior ore
also I checked : x86 has a better mroe flexible license that is even partly open source. Some aspects* but not all as some would require INtel or AMD licensing yeah
astral haven
It's a legal minefield
astral haven
And that's just base x86
The most important parts of modern x86 are x64, avx, and sse
Without those you can't run anything
cursive summit
x64 is also something that only AMD can issue afaik
astral haven
i also feel like arm is a better future
Still missing the point
It doesn't matter what you use
Use what you can
cursive summit
Their creation
astral haven
It's a legal minefield
...
junior ore
Must be a bigger legal minefield than FASA/WizKids/Topss/Catalyst Game Labs.
shadow minnow
Still missing the point
It doesn't matter what you use
Use what you can
And since most companies can’t use x86 arm may be the future imo
astral haven
And since most companies can’t use x86 arm may be the future imo
Arm is also a problem
But again since it doesn't matter, people will switch if nescessary
cursive summit
Wasn't the story that Intel gave the x86 license to AMD, AMD made x64 and Intel bought x64 access from them?
junior ore
ARM si proprietary.
shadow minnow
Arm is also a problem
Well it’s way less of a problem in terms of licensing
astral haven
Wasn't the story that Intel gave the x86 license to AMD, AMD made x64 and Intel ...
It's alot more complicated than that
fair gull
Wasn't the story that Intel gave the x86 license to AMD, AMD made x64 and Intel ...
they cross license
ashen spindle
nono you guys are overlooking the easy fix
fair gull
and they also fight over it soemtimes
shadow minnow
nono you guys are overlooking the easy fix
RISC V
fair gull
its called x86_64 for a reason
shadow minnow
Usb C is the only standard that’s kinda an exception, partially well thunderbolt
Except it’s kinda a mess too at least a same connector
astral haven
🤨 lmao
fair gull
theres only 1 universal connector
shadow minnow
But yeah apart from the connector being the same it’s not much better
fair gull
its called a wire
astral haven
That's Intel's sole property
That's complicated
shadow minnow
Not compatible
fair gull
needs wires to work
shadow minnow
That's Intel's sole property
Not entirely
astral haven
The name belongs to intel
The tech is open
shadow minnow
And well thunderbolt is kinda group of functionalities USB 4 can also use
shadow minnow
The name belongs to intel
The tech is open
^
cursive summit
Thunderbolt is literally Intels, they monetize the fuck out of it so you can't even use one without an Intel controller
fair gull
its apple/intel
astral haven
Thunderbolt is literally Intels, they monetize the fuck out of it so you can't e...
That's not correct
shadow minnow
Yeah
junior ore
what tech is open?
shadow minnow
its apple/intel
Also some other company I think, not sure if not IBM
astral haven
Intel doesn't even make most of the controllers, that's TI
astral haven
what tech is open?
USB 4
Aka the same spec as thunderbolt 3 but with no certification process
ashen spindle
well, technically you are wrong because the name is USB4 without a space 😛
astral haven
Thunderbolt 4 is also identical but with a different certification process
shadow minnow
USB naming lol
shadow minnow
lol
shadow minnow
Well metal rod isn’t free
It’s kinda P2W
Paid items increase your chance of getting it
fair gull
the thunderbolt is free ¯_(ツ)_/¯
junior ore
nah. them city poles and buildings steal all the thunderbolts
shadow minnow
the thunderbolt is free ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Well yes but pay to win
fair gull
nah. them city poles and buildings steal all the thunderbolts
so thats why king kong climbed up the empire state
junior ore
yes and the plane would have made a sorta-half decent semi-conductor idea but those planes weren't made out fo much metal and I don't think lead was very conductive.
astral haven
What
junior ore
( crappy bi-plane and being shot down)
astral haven
All planes are made of highly conductive materials
junior ore
not really.
astral haven
Old ones are metal tubes
junior ore
even in WW2 there was a couple wooden ones.
astral haven
With metal frames
astral haven
"some"
astral haven
By that definition my house is made of plaster because there's plaster on top of all the structural elements... 
shadow minnow
With metal frames
Not sure all had them earlier on. But ww2 probably yes
astral haven
By that definition my house is made of plaster because there's plaster on top of...
No, my house is wood
junior ore
okay I checked. it was very common for bi-planes to be made out of fabric-like materials.
astral haven
By that definition my house is made of plaster because there's plaster on top of...
Again
junior ore
like some kind of cotton+ cellulose nitrate dope or such
astral haven
The biplanes have fabric covering metal
junior ore
not metal plates or bodies. it'd be thin frames. The majority would sitll be the fabric.
junior ore
look I get what youa re saying.
there's metal in it.
it's the skeleton and structure tht keeps it together.
astral haven
it's the skeleton and structure tht keeps it together.
If that didn't define what the thing is made of, modern planes would be made of paint
shadow minnow
Most of some earlier planes was made from wood
astral haven
Holy shit
shadow minnow
You don’t say houses are made from Steel rods
junior ore
except a paint has in no part what so ever in its functionality. Unless it was conditioning/thermal based stuff. Both the fabric and the frame are required for the plane functionality.
shadow minnow
You say they are made from bricks
astral haven
You say they are made from bricks
No, they are made of wood lel
shadow minnow
Just because part of fuselage has metal doesn’t make the entire plane metal
junior ore
if the house was made fo bricks yes. In this analog :
The Support structure walls on the inside are the metal frames and the outside bricks is the fabric.
astral haven
except a paint has in no part what so ever in its functionality. Unless it was ...
The paint is used for improving drag, and preventing the metal or composites from being damaged by external factors
junior ore
and thats why i left in a conditional for types of paint that did serve a purpose as oppose to the decorative types.
astral haven
if the house was made fo bricks yes. In this analog :
The Support structure wa...
Bricks aren't allowed to be used for structural elements in modern buildings...
astral haven
and thats why i left in a conditional for types of paint that did serve a purpos...
All airplanes these days require paint
junior ore
I didn't say bricked structural walls.
astral haven
You can use cinder block but not true bricks
shadow minnow
What was even the original point of discussion? I recall it was like sth with thunder?
junior ore
it turned into whether a bi-plane could be conductive enough for a lightning bolt to kill king kong lol
shadow minnow
Anyways most sources say that ww1 planes were “made from” wood.
Even if engine and some other parts had some metal
junior ore
it depends on the era of the plane and time frame.
King Kong was.... 1912 I think... or 1920... let me check.
shadow minnow
So wooden fuselage most likely, would call that plane made from wood for sure
junior ore
1933
astral haven
These are not military planes
junior ore
but coolio pictures of bi-plane in construction :D
dude it was WW1. literally any plane was basically a "war plane"
astral haven
Sure
astral haven
But they were mostly metal after the war
They ran out of beer kegs to convert into planes...
junior ore
during and after WW2 yes but we're talking King Kong era, 1933.
junior ore
yes
shadow minnow
After ww1 there still were well ww1 style planes for a while
junior ore
gottem
astral haven
"Metal began to be used in aircraft as engineers sought to overcome challenges in strength and wind resistance, which only increased as speeds improved. The best-known early use of metal aircraft was in WWI, with Fokkers (as flown by the Red Baron) employing welded steel tube fuselages. Aluminum-covered Junkers are known as the world’s first all-metal fighter planes. All-metal aircraft construction became increasingly popular from 1919 to 1934, with the most common constructions being:
Aluminum or aluminum alloy with fabric-covered surfaces
All-metal monocoque structures"
junior ore
became increasingly popular is not "all planes" or fully. nor every nation.
nor every availability.
shadow minnow
So some military planes were still wooden some not
astral haven
became increasingly popular is not "all planes" or fully. nor every nation.
After this things switched to alloys
junior ore
yes
shadow minnow
Well yeah but 1933 is in between
junior ore
but you sitll had wooden planes even in early WW2
and yeah 1933 is an inbetween date unless you're japan-china
astral haven
There are wooden planes in WWI like there are brick houses in california
shadow minnow
Could the plane carry the creature anyways?
shadow minnow
There are wooden planes in WWI like there are brick houses in california
ww1 had lot of wooden planes, ww2 not so many
junior ore
you just proving our point
fair gull
or how typewriters remove letters
astral haven
There are wooden planes in WWI like there are brick houses in california
Sure they exist
But they were mostly passion projects and requisitions
shadow minnow
In ww1 lot of planes were wooden
junior ore
no it was a majority in WW1
shadow minnow
It’s after ww1 things started to slowly change
astral haven
By the end of WW1 they were destroyed
shadow minnow
It says from 1919
junior ore
destroyed, says who?
shadow minnow
They called ww1 early use
So it’s clear wooden planes were still used for some period of time after
astral haven
destroyed, says who?
Says all these people rebuilding the planes from scratch
astral haven
The few remaining historical "wooden" planes are units that were damaged in the war and never got repaired back then, and modern replicas
astral haven
you ahve 3 people here disagreeing with you on this dude.
Nice appeal to the mob
junior ore
so? that doesn't changed anything
no tthe mob thing
wood doesn't last very long in terrible war conditions
nor during a time when preservation fo wr material wasn't great
astral haven
Yes
Which is why they ran out of wood and started using metal...
junior ore
it's more like its easier and better to use metal than wood. cheaper.
astral haven
Yes the first planes were in fact wood or metal with fabric like this
astral haven
But in the middle of wwi they decided wow we are running out of beer crates to turn into planes, and our seamstresses are getting tired
So they moved on to metal
junior ore
not all countries did, and I don't think it's a matter of running out of wood. More like it was better logistically to use a light alloy. And that doesn't change plenty still were made out of wood and plenty still remained wood. And they kept doing that even up to WW2.
you can find WW2 wooden fighter planes.
astral haven
you can find WW2 wooden fighter planes.
Not that fought in the war on the winning side lel
junior ore
The british won
astral haven
That's
Technically correct
junior ore
Soviets Won
astral haven
The soviets lost aloooooot in the war
astral haven
The United States only came out financially crippled
astral haven
If you want to be pedantic, noone won the war
junior ore
it's not about being pedantic
astral haven
The us says they won
junior ore
Carmonben — Today at 1:13 PM
Not that fought in the war on the winning side lel
your words.
astral haven
More accurate would be they lost the least
junior ore
again : stop moving the goal post.
astral haven
Anyways point is more that the wooden planes didn't win fights
The surviving wooden planes were the ones that didn't fight
junior ore
absolute farce of a statement.
you can look at plenty of War records of plane fights that disagree with you.
astral haven
What is the kill count of wooden planes in ww2
junior ore
oh so now you specify just WW2? thats not what you said earlier.
cursive summit
You peeps still raving about WWT
junior ore
You said wooden planes didn't win fights. you didn't say which war.
look up the IS plane series
astral haven
WW1 had wooden planes
But they ran out
astral haven
🤷 speak for yourself
junior ore
🤷 speak for yourself
I literally called you out on your bullshit and dishonesty man. you can't deflect it back to me and everyone else can see it and you didn't even correct yourself when it was pointed out. So, yeah. Enough said.
cursive summit
Looking into it, some soviet design with 2 units built
astral haven
look up the IS plane series
"The fuselage forward of the cockpit, wing spar booms and the combined lower inner wing and undercarriage assemblies were built up from welded 30KhGSA steel tubing, whilst the rest of the airframe was constructed from D16 duralumin throughout except for fabric covering on the control surfaces."
Duralumin is early aluminum alloy
astral haven
They are trying to get away tho to be fair
astral haven
And steel tube is very much gonezo
cursive summit
So what was the point of this conversation?
Whether wooden planes were relevant or not?
astral haven
Whether WWI planes would survive lightning strikes
cursive summit
No not really
astral haven
And tbh that doesn't really depend on if the plane was made of wood
If it was made of metal they still would have a bad time
cursive summit
No grounding, thing would just combust
Same shit with any plane really
Even modern ones don't take lightning well
You want some sort of grounding
astral haven
Well that's not exactly an option for planes lel
They just make themselves as conductive as possible on the outside so they act as a faraday cage
Modern composites aren't conductive enough so they use specially conductive coatings apparently?
cursive summit
787 is "50% composite, 20% aluminum, 15% titanium, 10% steel, and 5% other"
Aluminum would be the one for conductivity, I assume
Composite being "carbon fiber reinforced plastic and other composites"
astral haven
787 is "50% composite, 20% aluminum, 15% titanium, 10% steel, and 5% other"
I think they also have metal wings?
Oh no
Apparently not
cursive summit
You'd want that thing to be as light as possible
So they minimize the metals
Plastics are durable, but also lightweight
I assume metals are for the supportive beams to hold the structural integrity together
shadow minnow
Wood is well lighter weight too
cursive summit
Expensive, not durable, flammable
shadow minnow
I assume metals are for the supportive beams to hold the structural integrity to...
Yeah
shadow minnow
Anyways Boeing cares too much about profit now
astral haven
3d printed compressor blades are sweet tho
shadow minnow
Not instantly revealing issues they found because it would cost them money…
cursive summit
You wouldn't really want to reveal an issue so you can address it, no?
Or so that a potentially malicious group could use it to compromise the security of the vehicle
shadow minnow
Well they didn’t address it and many people died
cursive summit
I dunno, you don't want to cheap out on planes just cause of the human transport factor
astral haven
This isn't software issues like on a website
cursive summit
If that thing fails, you will get sued to death
astral haven
This was a failure that happened a few times...
true quest
If that thing fails, you will get sued to death
unless you're the military
astral haven
They found an issue
And while investigating, they drew out the investigation, then only started taking action after people died...
shrewd thicket
How tf do u read this
astral haven
How tf do u read this
Go to the site I linked
shrewd thicket
Cba
reef patrol
How tf do u read this
By looking at the original image.
reef patrol
It is.
You just need to look at it with a brighter background. You know... like Discord has if you click the image.
shadow minnow
If that thing fails, you will get sued to death
Well considering what happened with 737 maxes
astral haven
Button at the top right of the image on mobile
reef patrol
I showed u both
And I literally showed you the image. As rendered by discord when clicked on.
shadow minnow
The image uh doesn’t open so correctly
Color isn’t the issue
For me at least it opens like this even when I click
astral haven
And I literally showed you the image. As rendered by discord when clicked on.
Mobile messes it up
You need to hit the view original button
reef patrol
Color isn’t the issue
It is - It relies on a bright background to look "right".
reef patrol
Mobile messes it up
You need to hit the view original button
Well so did I - obviously.
astral haven
shadow minnow
I would have to save it to my phone
astral haven
Ew iphone
shadow minnow
This only shows me I can share it and the image in a very small preview
astral haven
Thanks iphone
astral haven
You don't have this button
"View original"?
astral haven
Ew
shadow minnow
Nvm I am dumb that’s another button lol
astral haven
Android has separate view original and share buttons...
shadow minnow
It shows me link to the original
astral haven
Nvm I am dumb that’s another button lol
...
Biggest issue with different oses tbh
shadow minnow
Kinda funny too
cursive summit
These are the peeps that claim iOS is superior btw
shadow minnow
Discord could trust it’s own links
shadow minnow
These are the peeps that claim iOS is superior btw
Both Oses have advantages it’s personal preference
cursive summit
Honestly, not anymore
shadow minnow
Yes
cursive summit
Android is prolly ahead now
shadow minnow
In some areas, not in battery efficiency for example
Both still have some advantages the others don’t
cursive summit
We are talking strictly OS
shadow minnow
Well this is OS or well optimization
cursive summit
I want to know what iOS has nowadays that Android doesn't
astral haven
In some areas, not in battery efficiency for example
That's also not true
The most battery efficient phones are android
astral haven
The question is how aggressive is the background task killer
astral haven
At least looking at flagships
It is
It's just most android phones let you keep stuff in the background open
shadow minnow
IPhones do too
astral haven
Apple is aggressive at killing apps
cursive summit
Wait on iOS they just instant kill shit?
astral haven
No
shadow minnow
Apple is aggressive at killing apps
Eh only if you are low on memory
astral haven
Just quicker
astral haven
Eh only if you are low on memory
Incorrect
shadow minnow
App I used two days ago last time is still opened
astral haven
But was it still processing that time?
shadow minnow
Well idk that’s hard to compare. But most normal battery tests show 13 pro max lasting more than most android flagship despite having smaller battery
astral haven
On android you can switch away and back from a website and it'll stay loaded
shadow minnow
Well same
astral haven
Well idk that’s hard to compare. But most normal battery tests show 13 pro max l...
... still not listening
shadow minnow
That’s weird
shadow minnow
Unless I fully close safari the website doesn’t close
cursive summit
They'll give you extra processing power then, maybe
shadow minnow
Funny thing is even the cheapest new iPhone has the best soc
At the time it came out
astral haven
Funny thing is even the cheapest new iPhone has the best soc
Debatable
It has apples best soc
shadow minnow
Which is arguably best phone soc, but still it’s well amongst the best
astral haven
Yes
Arguably isn't is
The fastest processor is inarguably the z16
For phone socs it's alot more nuanced
shadow minnow
Anyways it’s very close to the best so doesn’t matter too much
Sure if you cool an soc way more you can get better performance too
astral haven
The problem is it's held back by ios
shadow minnow
I mean, even without active cooling, when I ran benchmarks outside in winter I got way higher scores lol
astral haven
You can't use a custom web browser
shadow minnow
Just because ambient temperature was so much lower
astral haven
You can't use a custom web browser
Anything on the app store is safari reskins
shadow minnow
You can't use a custom web browser
Well only thing I don’t use safari for is sketchup and that’s on desktop so doesn’t matter for me too much
astral haven
You can't lock apps in memory perpetually
shadow minnow
Especially now that you get free private relay if you have any iCloud plan which I do
astral haven
Multitasking is highly unpleasant
shadow minnow
Well I use my phone for most things I do and usually I don’t have issues with it
astral haven
The cameras are very samey
There's no good zoom or macro option
shadow minnow
But there are exceptions
shadow minnow
The cameras are very samey
There's no good zoom or macro option
Eh macro on new pros is pretty good
astral haven
I use my phone as a tool
astral haven
I need the front camera to be macro capable
I use my phone to see behind things
Doesn't work with rear cameras
shadow minnow
Yeah won’t get that
astral haven
All the barcode pictures I take with my iPhone are blurry asf
shadow minnow
But you can get the thing behind height mapped with 0.5mm accuracy
Using front camera
And the faceid sensors
astral haven
No I can't, the camera doesn't fit back there
And the depth sensor needs more than 2 inches to work iirc
Not that I have a depth camera on the iPhone work got me
You can't get a fingerprint and depth sensor 🤦
shadow minnow
True
Since depth sensor comes either with rear LiDar or faceid sensors or well both
The front one is more accurate for smaller distances
shadow minnow
Yeah SE phones don’t get that
They just get good Socs
It’s a kinda weird product but I suppose makes sense considering some people buy iPhones just for it being an apple phone with front camera working lol
Wish I was joking
astral haven
But the SE is the fastest for my use
shadow minnow
Tbf I have also met people who didn’t want iPhone just because of the brand
astral haven
No other iPhone can be in app before it's up to my line of sight...
shadow minnow
Ngl I really liked how you could just press the TouchID button and it would instantly open
Missed it for a long time when I switched away from old good 6s plus
Or well
astral haven
No other iPhone can be in app before it's up to my line of sight...
Not without an apple watch which is banned from our company for security reasons
astral haven
Ngl I really liked how you could just press the TouchID button and it would inst...
😐
shadow minnow
What?
astral haven
Yes
astral haven
It's not hard apple
Just add sideloading, locking apps, and windows on iOS and I'll switch
Oh also get better zoom cameras and keep the fingerprint sensor
junior ore
I'l get a modern mac when it's............... uuuuuuhhh 🤔 affordable and not hardware proprietary
astral haven
Put the fingerprint sensor under the apple logo for chrissakes
shadow minnow
Actually a cool idea
Though it’s not so easy to reach normally holding the phone people would get used to it
shadow minnow
I'l get a modern mac when it's............... uuuuuuhhh 🤔 affordable and no...
Well they are not as overpriced as they used to be anymore…
…Unless you want to upgrade memory or storage
But well at least iphone price for the same storage went down a bit
astral haven
Though it’s not so easy to reach normally holding the phone people would get use...
It's actually right under one of your fingers almost guaranteed
shadow minnow
My fingers are too long lol
junior ore
nah nah i'm not getting any iphone or such
shadow minnow
I usually am closer to the cameras
junior ore
i'm talking computer
shadow minnow
Just did
My fingers usually stop right under cameras
It’s a bit better when I use my phone with two hands but I often don’t
astral haven
Your fingers end up right over the logo when you grab it, then it shifts up while you pull it up to your face
At least mine do
shadow minnow
Can’t relate. But like, I have quite long fingers
Also newer iPhones have a bit different logo position I think
astral haven
Hmm
shadow minnow
It’s fully in middle, I think it used to be down or up
astral haven
I've got an se and an xr to check against
shadow minnow
It’s in the total middle now
Yeah it used to be higher
On xr
Makes sense you would reach it with your fingers in that position
But that changed
astral haven
Well they can change it back for the one with the fingerprint sensor
astral haven
It would look the same...
shadow minnow
Well no because now the camera reaches the logo position
With XR you only had one small lens
astral haven
Heck
They could make the entire back a fingerprint sensor
shadow minnow
Also reminds me, apple logo on MacBooks I am pretty sure has some sensor in it
astral haven
It's already expensive lmao
astral haven
Also reminds me, apple logo on MacBooks I am pretty sure has some sensor in it
The one on the back of the lid???
shadow minnow
Yes
astral haven
Why
shadow minnow
There is one spot with different color
It’s hard to see
I am not sure what is it for or if it’s actually a sensor
astral haven
It's probably not a sensor
shadow minnow
Well it’s on every MacBook or well the newer ones
And can only be seen from certain angles
What else could it be
Can’t find it rn for example with current lighting I have
astral haven
Machining artifact
shadow minnow
Got it
shadow minnow
Machining artifact
May be but it’s the same perfect circle
astral haven
You mean the shape of a mill head?
shadow minnow
It’s bigger
If mill head was that big it wouldn’t have that much detail
I would take a photo if I could see it without phone flashlight lol
astral haven
Roughing vs finishing mill
Idk
Our M1 mini here doesn't have anything janky in the logo
shadow minnow
It’s very hard to see
astral haven
And the only MacBooks I own have white logos that are lit
shadow minnow
Under most lighting conditions impossible
shadow minnow
Idk
Our M1 mini here doesn't have anything janky in the logo
Try to shine a bright centered light on it
Like phone flashlight
If you move a bit it’s gonna appear
astral haven
Negatory
It's a solid bit of glass with black material under it
It's not the metal logo the new things have
shadow minnow
Bad photo but
astral haven
Bad photo is correct lol
shadow minnow
Kinda looks like when you have underscreen camera just probably sth else
Kinda got tempted to ask apple support what would they say, apple probably knows
Oh nvm I already tried
They suggested me to bring it to apple store to get it checked out lol
So that customer support person definitely didn’t know
But I am pretty sure I saw it on other MacBooks too
astral haven
Don't see anyone else mentioning that
shadow minnow
It’s very very hard to see so it makes sense
ashen spindle
can't believe you Karen'd the underpaid apple staff 
shadow minnow
I was just curious if they know lol
I don’t mi d it or didn’t want to return it
Was just curiosity what purpose does it serve really
astral haven
Being curious about a strange thing isn't karening
ashen spindle
I know im just poking fun
fair gull
Put the fingerprint sensor under the apple logo for chrissakes
na side reader like sony does
way more natural
astral haven
Meh
I had back fingerprint reader for a while and it was great
Side sensors aren't as fast or secure
cursive summit
What's the phonie?
fair gull
wha
true quest
xz
cursive summit
2017?
fair gull
yes
slow garnet
arent protobufs send via the body field of a post request?
That's what I thought and saw too, but apparently, it's possible to send it via a GET request. Otherwise, why would steam even state it in their API documentation?
https://partner.steamgames.com/doc/webapi/IPublishedFileService in QueryFiles, required_kv_tags is one of them.
The format for it is available at this github page
https://github.com/DoctorMcKay/node-steam-user/blob/master/protobufs/steammessages_publishedfile.steamclient.proto#L249
slow garnet
Ye np, reason why I'm assuming it's protobuf is because everything else so far I've tried has resulted in fuck all.
Also because steam uses protobufs.
Alternatively I say fuck it, and resort to scraping via the web parameters, but I would rather avoid that since it's likely more taxing, and I'll have to do an additional (approximated) 7,500,000 requests.
Where just using the API I would only need to do 250,000 requests.
Probably even less, if I use some other special parameters, done correctly, I would only need to do 25,000 requests.
fair gull
have you tried &required_kv_tags[0]=whatever
slow garnet
I'll try it right now.
Don't have the history of what I've tried, was tired as fuck yesterday.
crimson wigeon
I would imagine it's just ye old JSON dictionary, but you probably already tried that. Poor documentation ahoy!
slow garnet
Aye, poor documentation is fun...
fair gull
i have a feeling not all those required tags are required
slow garnet
You're absolutely correct.
I've been testing each, and so far, the only real thing that is required as far as I can tell is the appid.
Additionally, steam's API page is out of date 
The most up to date source that I know of is https://steamapi.xpaw.me/#IPublishedFileService/QueryFiles
crimson wigeon
Or presumably you have also set return_kv_tags to true and then just copy pastad what that returns into your request
slow garnet
Also &required_kv_tags[0]=Gamemode does nothing unfortunately.
Or well, whatever I had put in there did fucking nothing.
Even doing it with [] does nothing as well (Search via URL does not have a 0)
Gonna try something else, just found some message documentation on another page on Steam's official API.
slow garnet
Even trying to use the following format provided at GetSessionDetailsForApp doesn't work (https://partner.steamgames.com/doc/webapi/IGameNotificationsService). And this is for something simple too (date_range_created, still QueryFile). Gotta love poor fucking non-existing documentation.
plush summit
slow garnet
Mhm. "It turns out that the song contained one of the natural resonant frequencies for the model of 5400 RPM laptop hard drives that they and other manufacturers used."
wheat plume
.... the fact Beethoven was deaf by the time he reached 45 years old makes this a lot more cursed
shadow minnow
I had 0 ideas macOS devices have this built in
wheat plume
Wait, so you need a headphone amp to use 80 Ohm headphones??
shadow minnow
Depends
wheat plume
depends on what?
shadow minnow
On how good the 3.5mm is on your device whatever that is
Or well how good the built in amp is
wheat plume
oh hmm
shadow minnow
New MacBooks for example how high impedance amp that would be able to run that
shadow minnow
Well it’s hard to tell without testing or googling for each device
shadow minnow
Question is if the same can be says about the computer and laptop
My computer has pretty bad audio
It’s funny how they advertise high quality audio
Each 3.5mm output sounds totally different
All of them suck
wheat plume
my motherboard brags about having incredible high quality and crystal clear Japanese audio capacitors or whatever they are
tbf, it can make really good sound output
and there is no hissing or interference
shadow minnow
my motherboard brags about having incredible high quality and crystal clear Japa...
Well same
wheat plume
asus?
shadow minnow
Nope gigabyte
wheat plume
oh
shadow minnow
It even has gold plated 3.5mm jacks to show how “good” they are
frozen ingot
they all use those crappy realtek chips anyways
shadow minnow
I had 0 ideas macOS devices have this built in
But this really surprised me when connecting a controller
stark bobcat
it doesn't just depend on the impedance of the headphones the sensitivity also matters
frozen ingot
motherboard integrated audio has pretty much been stagnant since the late 2000s from what I can tell
stark bobcat
not really true pcb layer counts as far as I can tell are increasing
so isolation is better
highly depends on the motherboards you are comparing
frozen ingot
that might improve noise floor or interference leaking into the audio path but the actual audio circuitry looks virtually unchanged since those days
and its not very good
stark bobcat
I mean you don't need super sophisticated circuitry for a DAC
apple dongle is all you need
amps are a bit more involved
frozen ingot
not too important tho I suppose since you'll get a separate audio interface if you care the least bit about audio fidelity
wheat plume
Saw a review from BadSeed Tech for the DT 770 Pro 80 Ohm version
and he says you need an amp for them....dafuq
so idk, thats why im confused AF
frozen ingot
might not need but preferable to get the most out of them
frozen ingot
38 ohms on mine so most headphone outs will run them just fine
deft marlin
I mean the new MacBook 14” and 16” have “high impedance” audio jacks
Haven’t seen what they’re rated for though
stark bobcat
steamdeck speakers are pretty nice for how small they are
I wish I could just annoy everyone on the plane by playing games without headphones
deft marlin
I wish I could just annoy everyone on the plane by playing games without headpho...
You could annoy sleeping kids more by blasting megalovania