🔌│tech

[shrewd thicket]

Not everyone needs to route each cable neatly but having a bulge of cables sticking out the side of ur pc that's so big ur side panel doesn't even fit back on.. that's sum else xD

[ashen spindle]

some people cant focus some dont even notice something is on their desk when they search it

[vocal cipher]

some people need everything in sight to function properly

[shrewd thicket]

U can put effort in it and hide each cable as best as possible and yes that's maybe not for everyone but keeping everything decent should be a given

[vocal cipher]

which you might call messy, but they might be much more productive than you

[junior ore]

it's to the individual.

if you can't work in a messy enviornment, that is you.

[vocal cipher]

why are we discussing sth when there is nothing to discuss

[junior ore]

but it is certainly better to work non-messy.

but some people just... work better with going with a 'muscle-memory' approach rather than a orderly approach

[vocal cipher]

it's the same as telling everyone should buy black keyboard as it fits even if they change the color of their room

[ashen spindle]

if the cables function and its not in the way it's not going to change how I work because visual stuff doesnt bother me at all

so could be messy as hell or clean and I would not notice a difference

[junior ore]

cable management outside the computer is simply aesthetics. unless its on the floor or in the way then its a tripping hazard.

[ashen spindle]

even inside to a degree

[junior ore]

nah.

You don't want cables to disrupt your air flow or get caught in any fans or such

[ashen spindle]

hence to a degree, if it looks shit but doesnt impact anything its no matter

[shrewd thicket]

Cables in fans sound amazing

Bruh my autocorrect really tripping

[junior ore]

cards in a bike spoke lol

[shrewd thicket]

Lmao imagine they put that on a PC

"Lamborghini engine sound mod for rtx 3080 ti"

Intel Bugatti W16 cooler

[junior ore]

Dude if someone could perfectly emulate a 90s hard drive CPU and Hard Drive crunch sound I would install that in my modern computer

[shrewd thicket]

That would be fun for 5 minutes until it becomes annoying

[junior ore]

actually its funny you say that. IN the early 2000s Porsche made a deal with a pc manufactuerer to make a gaming computer so everytime you boot it it made an engine roar.

I think it was them, or ferrari

no wait it was Ferrari

made by Acer*

[shrewd thicket]

Ferrari has laptops

Yes

[final flame]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n9dlwebb04Y

[shrewd thicket]

I bet they're still using this for the race simulations

Mf be calculating a move to the hard tire on this

Even funnier because it's an Acer making it even more awful

[cursive summit]

https://nvidianews.nvidia.com/news/nvidia-announces-preliminary-financial-resultsfor-second-quarter-fiscal-2023

Nvidia badly missed Q2 earnings

[shrewd thicket]

Guess my RTX 4080 is gonna be twice as expensive

[ashen spindle]

nah it means they need to really get rid of 30 series cards before the launch so either that is delayed or they have to put out some big rebates

[fluid gazelle]

i'll happily trade in my 3060 for a free 3080/3090 if they have to get rid of it, remember that pls

[cursive summit]

That won't happen

They'd rather dump their stock at -70% MSRP than trade in

[mild dome]

Likely because of that crypto crash right? They were probably banking on the gravy train continuing to ride into the sunset
Wonder if their investors will hit them with another lawsuit

[ashen spindle]

some part but mostly its just supply catching up into slowdown on demand

[fluid gazelle]

i'll offer them the 3060, $50 and three gumballs.

[cursive summit]

Even I would take that deal

[fluid gazelle]

with two rubber bands if they wrap it nicely

[cursive summit]

Assuming the gumballs are half chewed

Are they?

If not then no deal

[fluid gazelle]

i can make them, sure

[cursive summit]

We need your dental data to then sell it to odontologists so you get daily mail about new teeth implants

[fluid gazelle]

that's ok i have multiple e-mail accoutns

[cursive summit]

Hey we don't care what happens to your email, as long as we get the profits of selling your data

Capitalism 101

[fluid gazelle]

i'll sell you the rest of the e-mail adresses

how many do you want?

[shadow minnow]

Lol 3090s going for 1250€

[fluid gazelle]

here they still go for €1500+ unless you buy second hand

[shrewd thicket]

Overpriced

[fluid gazelle]

my 3060 was ~700, and it has 30% less performance, i can live with that

[shadow minnow]

Well yeah 1250 is still overpriced unless you really need the memory

[fluid gazelle]

at the time the price was 1500-2250

[shadow minnow]

now 3080s go for 800 here

[fluid gazelle]

it's funny how most of the market leaves mid-level components in the middle, cheap out if you are poor, go full hard when you have money and need a beast pc

low demand equals good prices

even a 1080 TI was like 500+ secondhand

turns out my shitty old radeon rx 580 from an old pc is still worth 300-400, mad stuff

[cursive summit]

Ngl I really underestimated my RX 5700 until a few days ago

[tepid violet]

wasn't there something about evga selling its 3090tis for 1k usd?

[cursive summit]

Hardware Unboxed compared the RX 5700 to 2060S and 3060

5700 smashed those out of the park

So to even consider a new card an upgrade I kinda have to get a 3070 or better

[junior ore]

Aye, I do wanna replace my 5700 as well.

[cursive summit]

I wonder how are the local prices anyways

[shrewd thicket]

I would never get a AMD card anyways

nvidia's software has way more value to me

[junior ore]

though I would go with whats coming out new, not a 6000 series or 3000 series

[cursive summit]

As expected from a retard special needs person

[junior ore]

no need to be hostile from the get go

[shrewd thicket]

@mods omg he called me slur

[junior ore]

on that note : nvidia drivers will be useless to me on my end.

[cursive summit]

I did not

[shrewd thicket]

xD

[cursive summit]

What would you need Nvidia drivers for?

If you don't say CUDA I won't take you seriously

[shrewd thicket]

game compatibility and performance patches

[junior ore]

What game is incompatible with AMD?

[cursive summit]

Idk

Games are more compatible with AMD rn

[junior ore]

yeah

[cursive summit]

Performance patches are also on AMDs side

[shrewd thicket]

I'm responding to what u need Nvidia drivers for

[junior ore]

yeah

then its bad wording?

[shrewd thicket]

without drivers its useless

[junior ore]

like. its confusing when you say compatibility

well yeah but surely we're also talking the cards too

[ashen spindle]

either you dont mean drivers or its a joke about not needing nvidia drivers on an amd card

[fluid gazelle]

please can someone do this and turn it into a meme?

[cursive summit]

What

[fluid gazelle]

running nvidia drivers on an amd card or vice versa

[cursive summit]

Wouldn't work, obviously

Or, maybe

I mean AMD does have some kind of compatibility patches to emulate CUDA

[junior ore]

More to do with Nvidia being poo heads when its comes to closed environment software being unfriendly outside of specifically made ones.

[cursive summit]

They can't just not run CUDA based software

So maybe somehow it would work?

[fluid gazelle]

when i was a noob a few years ago, i got a 3d screen with nvidia 3d tech, and using an amd card - it ran

[ashen spindle]

yeah but without any driver your nvidia card wont work so it still makes no sense

[fluid gazelle]

but it was suboptimal to say the least

[junior ore]

Wouldn't be using said drivers if I had an AMD card either.

[ashen spindle]

so the sentence was just a joke about not needing it on amd cards or what

[junior ore]

sorta. I'm hoping I wont need to use nvidia's proprietary drivers. I can use alternatives.

I don't know what the next line of cards exactly have to offer so I wouldn't know which ones I'd get.

So I could go for an AMD card or Nvidia

but if I go for an nvidia card and the official drivers don't work for me, I'll have to use different ones.

[fluid gazelle]

yeah personally i will just run the 3060 for a year or two just to see how the market goes

[cursive summit]

I would just expect +50% perf per generation

And cool features

[fluid gazelle]

i dont run any extremely heavy games on ultra quality anyway, i just go for graphics to win 😅

[junior ore]

People that bought the 2070 super still have frownie faces

[cursive summit]

How so

I can't imagine buying a 3090Ti

Or a 6950XT

Redundant cards

[shrewd thicket]

I'm responding to what u need Nvidia drivers for

Okh

[junior ore]

I wouldn't say they are redundant cards

[shrewd thicket]

ok discoprd on my phone is bugging i cant type and its sending random messages

[junior ore]

they are for enthusiasts

[shrewd thicket]

buying xx90 cards is stupid cuz you're better off saving money and getting next gen's 80 card each time

instead of 3090 then having to skip a generation cuz u broke

[cursive summit]

That's not how it has been

1060 was godly, 1070 was insane

[junior ore]

Some people just want best of the best regardless of the cost. that or showing off. one fo the two.

[shrewd thicket]

1060 was shit

[cursive summit]

GTX 1080 I would say was redundant compared to 1080Ti

[junior ore]

1060 - godly. yeah idunno about that

[cursive summit]

1060 is the most popular card for a reason

[shrewd thicket]

1080 ti was insane

[vocal cipher]

Sushy is like a rating oriented talk show host

[junior ore]

1060 was suitable and works well.

[cursive summit]

Debating Ben Shapiro?

[shrewd thicket]

yeah cuz good value for money but it really wasn't good

imo 2060 is a even better value for money

[vocal cipher]

always keeps the conversation hot, even if there is no reason for a debate

[tepid violet]

but the whole next gen was better value for money is dumb, some people can't afford to wait around for years to get a gpu lmao

[fluid gazelle]

TBF if you want the best of the best, 3090's are still funny if you look at the 5-10k videocard range

[junior ore]

aye

[shrewd thicket]

those aren't for gaming tho

[fluid gazelle]

i'm not sure how that went, but i know about the Nvidia Quadro RTX 8000

you can play games on that, NP

[junior ore]

what do you mean "arent for gaming"?

[cursive summit]

This shit is still overpriced?

[fluid gazelle]

they are made for heavy designing purposes

[junior ore]

oh you mena quadro cards and firepros

[fluid gazelle]

like 3d rendering for high end architects

[shrewd thicket]

just cuz u can doesn't mean its made for it

[junior ore]

eh, that enters would could shoulds

[fluid gazelle]

playing games is basically using this card on a low power usage, but you'll never have an issue with gpu not keeping up lmao

[cursive summit]

OOOOOO

https://youtu.be/yQ-c6SmVuDY

[junior ore]

Yeah its not made with the intent to heavily play games but neither is the rock that was simply just laying there used as a hammer. WHat matters is the intent and usage of it that we put on it.

also those are the cards that literally used in the production of said games typically*

[shrewd thicket]

wtf who's this guy

did hardware unboxed guy change?

[cursive summit]

Are you okay?

HU was always 2 people

[shrewd thicket]

bruh idk i dont watch thewm too often but i've never seen this guy

i usually watch monitor reviews tho

[cursive summit]

Explains why you have only seen Tim

I think his name's Tim

[shrewd thicket]

2k for a cpu?

bruh

[junior ore]

companies spend lot more for that

especially hospitals

[fluid gazelle]

yeah but nowadays in a hospital even a simple bandage is €20

[cursive summit]

Very good price

[fluid gazelle]

and i'd consider that cheap

[shrewd thicket]

hmm yes ill take 4

[shrewd thicket]

excuse me what?

i've never bought a bandage in my life but i'd expect them to be like 1$ for 10 or sum

[fluid gazelle]

everything is very expensive in medicine

[junior ore]

depends on the location and the buisiness

[cursive summit]

Threadripper Pro 5995WX is 6.500$? That's actually really good pricing

Compared to what Intel offers

64 core goodness 😛

[shrewd thicket]

amd only focusing on cores

[cursive summit]

And Intel focuses on... losing in perf

Very good tech

[tepid violet]

hey you can't win all the time 😦

[cursive summit]

Not only they lose in perf

Their shit costs more

[fluid gazelle]

when i hit my thumb and had to go to hospital, it cost me €324 to sit in the ER for 2h, wait to have a doctor play with my thumb to consider it not broken, wrapped it in a tight flex bandage and left

[shrewd thicket]

i have never even thought about using anything other than intel+nvidia in my personal pc tbh

[cursive summit]

That just speaks about how worthy you are to even have a conversation with

[shrewd thicket]

bruh

[fluid gazelle]

but that is in NL, alot is insured but ER generally not, unless you want to wait for the weekend when the physician opens so they can send you to the hospital

[cursive summit]

Like no kidding, talking to you is like trying to prove to an Apple fanboy that Apple is a bad company

[shrewd thicket]

I have a macbook and i'll probably get an iphone cuz all androids suck atm but i still don't like apple

i like the products tho, especially the hardware. software can use a bit of fixing up

[junior ore]

why do all androids suck?

[fluid gazelle]

i have an iphone because i don't like google, i don't like microsoft os, so i just took apple because the os is decent, none of the companies are saints anyway

[cursive summit]

all android suck

[shrewd thicket]

main thing from keeping me buying an iphone is the software

[cursive summit]

By saying that you are just proving that you have no clue what you are talking about

[shrewd thicket]

because?

[fluid gazelle]

and the best phone is a nokia 3310

[junior ore]

like, are you tlaking the hardware phones or software?

[shrewd thicket]

okay let me rephrase

[cursive summit]

Android is equal or even exceeds iOS in features

[shrewd thicket]

there is no good 2022 high end android phones

[shrewd thicket]

both

[junior ore]

high end defined as what?

[cursive summit]

... there are good high end phones this year..

[shrewd thicket]

some have good software but bad hardware

others have good hardware but bad software

its really annoying

[junior ore]

what counts as "good hardware" cause that sounds bullshit to say there aren't any with good hardware

[shrewd thicket]

there's not no perfect middle ground like there used to be with oneplus for example

[cursive summit]

There is a perfect middle ground?

[junior ore]

again whats the specifics?

you're being vague

[shrewd thicket]

latest chip, sleek design and preferably nothing in the screen but i guess im asking too much and will always be a downgrade from my 7t pro

[cursive summit]

You can get a 400$ phone with a high end SoC and good software

Do you even keep up with android news?

[shrewd thicket]

If the nothing phone had a sd8gen1 it would be very close to what im looking for

just need a phone with high end specs and close to stock android

[cursive summit]

sd8gen1 is outdated

[shrewd thicket]

that new asus phone is also close but yet its lacking things like LTPO and shit

[cursive summit]

sd8+gen1 is far superior

[shrewd thicket]

ok well + it is then

xD

[junior ore]

@shrewd thicket latest chip as in... ? again what type of specs? what speeds how many cores how much RAM?

just syaing "latest" means nothing

there is always a "latest" every other day

[shrewd thicket]

8gigs ram+ (easy), sd8+gen1 apparently, must have A/B partition layout and good rom support

[cursive summit]

"A/B partition layout"

Tf is that

[shrewd thicket]

samsung phones would be good if they didnht have their odin shit and A only, no roms. completely ruins any samsung

[empty wren]

Good way to update an os

[junior ore]

partitioning is ssoftware

keep it hardware

[shrewd thicket]

ever since android 10 phones have a A/B partition layout for seemless updates

[junior ore]

most phones have 8 GB of RAM, especially android flagships

so your claim about android phones is already bunk

[empty wren]

To expand though basically double partitions

[shrewd thicket]

it also allows things like rooting without having to boot to your recovery instead each time

like normal

[junior ore]

and you still didn't outline cpu specs

[shrewd thicket]

i literally said 8gigs is easy

[junior ore]

since you refuse to do it, I'll go and do it for you hold on

[shrewd thicket]

thats not the hard part,,,

[junior ore]

8 gigs is not cpu specs

[shrewd thicket]

i said SOC

sd8+gen1

[cursive summit]

Lol what

https://www.gsmarena.com/xiaomi_12s-11645.php

12S comes with 8+ gen 1 for 600$

That's decent as fuck

[shrewd thicket]

no cuz i aint want miui

[junior ore]

"SOC" doesn't tell me a frequency in gigahertz

or how many cores

[empty wren]

Would that matter if it has rom support?

[shrewd thicket]

SNAPDRAGON 8+ GEN 1

[cursive summit]

MiUI does have rom support, quite a bit afaik

[shrewd thicket]

cuz i want a good stock rom too

oxygenOS was perfect lol

[cursive summit]

Huawei?

[shrewd thicket]

LOL

[cursive summit]

Why would you go Huawei

[shrewd thicket]

u cant even unlock those

[empty wren]

Pretty sure you can buy a code

[shrewd thicket]

nope

[cursive summit]

Ah Oxygen is OnePlus

Thought it was huawei

[shrewd thicket]

huawei stopped supporting unlock like couple years ago

[cursive summit]

Tf is that thing huawei runs

[shrewd thicket]

harmonyOS these days

[junior ore]

Dude I don't see where the issue is Sushy. I'm seeing android phones with 8 t 12 GB of RAM and as for CPU I don't see what the issue is for them. What makes them bad in specs?

[shrewd thicket]

thats what im saying

[cursive summit]

Apple fever

[shrewd thicket]

there's no good phone for me rn

[junior ore]

you said they were shit

[shrewd thicket]

i want something exactly like oneplus

[junior ore]

where is the shit?

[cursive summit]

You didn't answer his question

[junior ore]

then get a oneplus

[shrewd thicket]

but oneplus isn't oneplus anymore

so there is no oneplus

[junior ore]

you aren't answering the question

[shrewd thicket]

they literally even dropped the alert slider

[cursive summit]

@junior oreDo everyone a service and stop talking tbf

If you see a convo is leading nowhere, it pays to stop

[shrewd thicket]

if the choice was that easy "oh just get xiaomi xyz" i would've bought one cuz i literally get like 3hr SOT on my current phone

[junior ore]

This is truth.

Just making ti easier to point out to everyone else though on the craziness going on.

[tepid violet]

https://tenor.com/view/ifyouignoreititllgoaway-prettylittleliars-pll-sashapieterse-gif-4548526

wise words from Mansen

[cursive summit]

It's Apple syndrome

Android lacks features, android bad that, android bad another

[shrewd thicket]

1440p display LTPO, preferably ultrasonic fingerprint sensor, at least 90hz+

[shrewd thicket]

bro i've been on android for years, still am what are u even saying

ur just hating to hate rn..

[junior ore]

My phone runs higher than that bud

[empty wren]

Yeah ultrasonic fingerprint scanner is only Samsung

[shrewd thicket]

yep

[junior ore]

so whats your point in bringing it up?

[shrewd thicket]

i said preferably

cuz thats a spec id like in my phone

[cursive summit]

Under display finger readers are not exclusive to Samsung

[junior ore]

Android has that

[shrewd thicket]

ULTRASONIC

read

[junior ore]

so stop acting like Adnroid doesn't

[empty wren]

Ultrasonic Qualcomm is

[cursive summit]

Tf would you want ultrasonic for

Just get an under display

[shrewd thicket]

because its way more accurate?

mate

stop hating to hate

[junior ore]

you are literally the one hating for the sake of hating

[cursive summit]

You really like that saying when it carries no weight

[shrewd thicket]

ultrasonic fingerprint sensors are way more accurate and reliable

thats what i would want a ultrasonic for

[cursive summit]

Side mounted fingerprint readers are also accurate and reliable

[shrewd thicket]

yes but i find under the screen more comfortable????

[junior ore]

ok?

thats your preference.

[shrewd thicket]

yes exactky'

[cursive summit]

Then get one with under the screen, literally nearly every high end phone has one

[junior ore]

it has nothign to do with your previous claim

[shrewd thicket]

and im buying a phone that fits my preference

lol

[fluid gazelle]

i guess he likes the phone screen clean design, full glass plate

[junior ore]

which you said android was just utter shit and didn't have good hardware

[shrewd thicket]

LOL

show me where

show me

LMAO

[junior ore]

and now you wanna go with "muh finger sensor"

[shrewd thicket]

right...

i never said android was 'utter' shit

i never even said android was shit

[junior ore]

dude scroll up

i didn't mean literally

I was hyperboling

[shrewd thicket]

android is literally the best mobile operating system rn but its ruined by companies like samsung who make a A-only phone, require odin and download mode and bloat their shit for example

a google pixel 6 has a amazing android experience

asus phones too

[empty wren]

Lol pixel 6

[cursive summit]

If the hardware didn't suck

[shrewd thicket]

pixel 6 isnt good hardware

but thats what im saying

in the market rn

its either

one

or the other

[junior ore]

uh, no.

[cursive summit]

It's not

[junior ore]

there's shitloads of different phones

[umbral knot]

meh my pixel 6 pro does the job so I like having the good android experience

[junior ore]

there is no "one or the other"

[cursive summit]

You can get hardware and software in the same package

[shrewd thicket]

its a fine phone

[shrewd thicket]

except not a package that suits me

[tepid violet]

lucky, mine is fairly buggy 😭 😭

[shrewd thicket]

samsung has good hardware but it has exynos chip in eu and terrible software

[cursive summit]

Even thought that "Maybe my needs are unrealistic"?

[shrewd thicket]

xiaomi is a lot better in the software department but still doesn't appeal to me

[empty wren]

Import snapdragon then

[shrewd thicket]

I never had to think twice about my phone, just the next oneplus. until oneplus 8 released and it has all these issues and it's just been getting worse from there

[cursive summit]

Zenfone 9 is supposed to launch this month, that seems like a nice phone

[shrewd thicket]

and there's really nothing else

im open to a asus

[fluid gazelle]

what do you guys think of the brand Oppo? i hear it more recently

[shrewd thicket]

oh zenfone 9 thats the small one

[cursive summit]

Solid chinesium

Actually, innovative chinesium

[shrewd thicket]

yeah design looks dated and doesn't have a highend display

dont mind the sidemounted fps

but its enouugh for me not to want it

[cursive summit]

Oppo was supposed to have foldables and rollables first, before most companies

[empty wren]

Eh...

[cursive summit]

They just have problems with either income or R&D

Their projects, however cool, just get cancelled

[fluid gazelle]

i've thought about buying a CAT phone just for the meme

[cursive summit]

Oppo 2021 was a fucking amazing project

[shrewd thicket]

oppo design is way too flashy and imo too targeted towards asian market

[fluid gazelle]

FLIR camera because i can

[cursive summit]

Ngl I was going to too

[fluid gazelle]

also, nearly indestructible

[cursive summit]

Thermal camera for the memes

[empty wren]

Why not Energizer?

Battery for days

[shrewd thicket]

the design looks cool but the colors are awful

i like the boxy design

[fluid gazelle]

can you fit that in any pants pocket other than sweatpants/jogging pants?

[empty wren]

I got some big pocket pants but it will pull my pants down

[fluid gazelle]

if you start running with that brick in your pocket you're gonna hit yourself in the crown jewels

and it ain't gonna be nice

[empty wren]

[shrewd thicket]

there's rumors there will be a oneplus 10 ultra

gonna get my hopes up LOL

[fluid gazelle]

i signed up for oneplus years ago, didn't get picked.. got picked a few years ago but i lost the interest for android

[shrewd thicket]

wdym didnt get picked

[fluid gazelle]

you had to be selected to buy the oneplus

[shrewd thicket]

never had that

[fluid gazelle]

you had to sign up, get an e-mail to confirm you win out of the lottery, then you can purchase one with a direct link

[empty wren]

It was when one plus was fairly new they did that

[shrewd thicket]

back on oneplus 1 / x??

[fluid gazelle]

yeah it was really new at the time

[empty wren]

Where did the idea of rollables go and why are stuck with the problem causing foldables. It was way too shortlived

[cursive summit]

Samsung I heard is working on a rollable

Due to be announced in 23

Oppo's one looked amazing but I guess they failed on the manufacturing side

[empty wren]

Fook

[reef patrol]

yu

https://tenor.com/view/twins-austin-power-gif-11397829

[empty wren]

Oh no you did not

[reef patrol]

[empty wren]

https://c.tenor.com/q4JtK5zE67UAAAAM/power-legendary-reverse-card-econowise-reverse-card.gif

[reef patrol]

[empty wren]

Or was it towards Vexxy?

[reef patrol]

I am so confused. And so is Austin Powers.

[shrewd thicket]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ztHZj6QNlkM

fuck cars

[cursive summit]

Fook me or Cruella

[reef patrol]

[cursive summit]

That was his question

Mansen

[reef patrol]

My brain

Cruella said Fook and I did an Austin Powers reference.

[empty wren]

Hmm I do not remember it

[reef patrol]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VhQhZyNKqhM

[cursive summit]

It's alright, let's just get groovy baby

[empty wren]

Ah

Ah the twins

That is what you meant

[reef patrol]

[empty wren]

Ah the good times I remember watching all these as a kid

Such good movies

[shrewd thicket]

Mfs selling second hand 3080 for 750-800 eur here

[formal vortex]

https://nvidianews.nvidia.com/news/nvidia-announces-preliminary-financial-resultsfor-second-quarter-fiscal-2023

"Shortfall versus outlook primarily driven by weaker Gaming revenue" Just sell all your stock to miners, like you did last 2 years 🥳

[cursive summit]

Rotunde, again

You are slow

[formal vortex]

[arctic mantle]

@cursive summitany good mic cable suggestion?

or any is fine

mine rn is kinda fucked

[cursive summit]

Mic cable?

Just get any

Don't buy into the silver/gold plating bs

[arctic mantle]

why are 6 feet ones more expensive than the 25

[cursive summit]

Smaller is better

Embrace the GIRTH

[true quest]

something something scales of manufacturing

[arctic mantle]

wait a minute

if the scarlett is usb, cant i just keep the speaker in the rear io 3.5mm

@cursive summit i m looking at reviews and most ppl say that for hd600 you still want an amp to go with the scarlett

[cursive summit]

It has an amp

You don't want to chain amps

[arctic mantle]

btw do you know the btr5

[cursive summit]

Obviously

[arctic mantle]

whats the highest impedance headphone they can handle

[cursive summit]

Impedance?

Heh

Not really how it works but

HD600s easily

[arctic mantle]

is the btr5 weaker or stronger than the scarlett

[cursive summit]

They are made for different things

[arctic mantle]

ik, but like

[cursive summit]

I'd guess BTR5 is probably better for headphone audio

But as you can guess, it doesn't have 3 connectors for a mic, speaker and headphones

[arctic mantle]

like rn with my btr5 at half volume and my ear is about to die, scarlett should be a cake walk right

[cursive summit]

6xx's are 6 hundros

Not the six fiddies

[arctic mantle]

its 650

i guess ill get the scarlett, anyway if i find it not enough i can just ooga booga and return it

amazon moment

imma go grab food, thanks for the help

ill be back probably for more questions later lmao

they convenient tho

man the btr5's nfc connect is so nice

[thick elk]

I have always wondered what the appeal of the btr5 is?
It's too large to comfortably use as a Bluetooth adapter, and Bluetooth is kind of a waste if you don't use it portable.
(this is coming from someone owning a btr1k and btr3, where clearly prefer the 1k)

Feels like some awkward compromise when using way too hard to drive portable stuff.

I just have small ears so went for one of the smallest in ears and a Bluetooth adapter clipping to my shirt with a cable seems fine, though I may look some tws adapter at some point

I know anything bigger than a moondrop ssp could be problematic, in fact even that is on the edge

maybe, I already had the adapter though and at the time I also used them on my switch which did not have bluetooth support at the time.

I also find it kind of a risk to try something else knowing my ears are problematic in terms of fit.

so price was also a big factor

Oh yea, pretty much all bluetooth adapters do support those but somehow tws often do not.

Flacs make even more sense in that case as otherwise you would be doing a lossy transcode of a lossy format. Still in the grand scheme of things this all does not matter much.

On my previous microsd I encoded it to 160 opus

I have a script set up to convert it all so it's no big deal, I am also to lazy to filter out music I don't listen to, much more work than just blindly running some compression script.

There are probably gui's that do the same

Fair enough, anyway basically the script I used

it has a few edge cases on malformed flacs but other than that it worked great last I used it.

though I should still clean it up some day and upload this kind of stuff to a github

[latent mural]

Hey guys, i have a problem. When my Wooting 60 HE is too close to my Mic i get a beep sound. Im using a Shure MV7X with a go XLR mini. Anyone has similar experiences and knows a fix?

[cursive summit]

#archived_questions_answers

A bit too specialized to be asked here

[latent mural]

ok ty

[pale sigil]

https://www.reddit.com/r/oculus/comments/wjae13/meme_oc_people_without_facebook_accounts_right_now/

[pale sigil]

https://twitter.com/Aria_Technology/status/1556732506262609924

Aria PC (@Aria_Technology)

We regret to inform you that https://t.co/p142vD5X1A has decided to close down our online retail store and will instead transition exclusively to serving business clients only.

Twitter · Aug 8, 2022, 8:02 PM

RIP

cant say im surprised

[reef patrol]

Whomst?

[cursive summit]

Who

Prolly some UK store

[pale sigil]

One of very few main PC retailers in the UK

Scan, Overclockers, Aria, CCL and Ebuyer.

We don't have big retailers here, just these companies with one place.

[reef patrol]

Overclockers are huge though?

[shadow minnow]

Imagine not having alza

[cursive summit]

Scan is pretty big

Overclockers is massive

[pale sigil]

Well yes, im just sayign this was one of them in the UK.

[cursive summit]

Overclockers is prolly comparable to Mindfactory

[reef patrol]

Hell I used Overclockers half the time I shopped for shit pre-brexit

[pale sigil]

my last order with Aria

[cursive summit]

4 cores

[reef patrol]

7th gen. Fun times.

[pale sigil]

Overscammers is poo.

[shadow minnow]

They even used to have their overclocking team trying to fest highest ocs and such but that’s no longer the case, also pc assembly price from custom components went way too up, used to be 17€

[pale sigil]

At least these days

Though having lifetime free delivery is fun

[ashen spindle]

7th gen, the biggest rip off in the last decade

[pale sigil]

pretty much

[shadow minnow]

What about 11th?

[reef patrol]

But Quin. They put them on an even BIGGER socket.

[ashen spindle]

like half a year before 8th gen and no real change from 6th

[ashen spindle]

even rocket lake at least hat new pcie gen and different memory controller and stuff

but yes very similar in how little it added

[shadow minnow]

Hmm true

[rigid fox]

Just got a Artisan Zero to go with my 60HE 🥳

[cursive summit]

A what?

[cursive summit]

I always thought that kaby lake lasted far longer than how much it actually did

i7-980 released in 2010

2022 we are about to reach generation 13

Just about a new generation every year

These things feel like they are much older than how much they actually are

[empty wren]

Ah yes somehow Sonos patented that

[arctic mantle]

@digital cliff@cursive summit ive decided to get a shit stack

and maybe a seperate audio interface for the mic

[slow garnet]

Gotta love it when cryptsetup causes OOM events on a low RAM device

[arctic mantle]

we are gaming boiz

[arctic mantle]

Also, holy fuck man the btr5 is so good

They make every random dogshit headphones sound better

Can even drive hd6xx perfectly

And the connectivity, instant bt connection to my phone the second I unplug it from my pc and vis versa

I honestly think it’s one of the best consumer audio product ever made

Small and light, 10h battery unplugged, 2 dac, balanced out

Like it almost look fake

It’s so small, compact, and light, yet it has all these features

[astral haven]

It's not actually that small lol

It's one of the larger pocketable Bluetooth adapters

[arctic mantle]

For a amp that can drive 300ohm headphones, it’s small bruh

[astral haven]

And driving 6xx is easy
The btr3 can drive 6xx from the unbalanced out

[arctic mantle]

It’s almost like all the other features take space as well

[astral haven]

What's impressive is the btr5 can drive the er2xr

[astral haven]

Name a feature the btr3k doesn't have

[arctic mantle]

NFC

[astral haven]

And that's out of single ended
It gets painful from the balanced out which is real sweet

[arctic mantle]

[astral haven]

The btr5 nfc doesn't work
And the 3 had nfc I'm pretty sure
I thought the 3k kept that too?

[arctic mantle]

Btr5 nfc literally works tho, I use it all the time to pair whiles switching between phones

All android tho, no idea if it works on iPhone

[astral haven]

Hmm
Doesn't work with Samsung phones?

Didn't work on my s8 or my s21

[arctic mantle]

Idk man, sounds like a skill issue

[final flame]

I have never once used nfc for pairing devices

once it's paired you shouldn't have to pair it again

[arctic mantle]

It’s only useful when you wanna swap between multiple device frequently

Aka basically useless

It just makes you go “oh that cool” on the first time

[final flame]

a feature that probably costs like a extra 10$ to implement

[arctic mantle]

Been able to listen to the 6xx on the bed is so nice

[astral haven]

Ok so the 3 had nfc
Then the 3k drops it for balanced

[final flame]

Snazzylabs has a full on amp setup on their bedside table

[arctic mantle]

How about I save that money for food

Also, holy shit is the btr7 ugly

What hav they done

[final flame]

looks fine to me, it more closely resembles their high end daps

[astral haven]

You are meant to listen to it not frame it

Lel

[final flame]

unlike the btr5 and 3 which resemble the lower end daps design like the m6

[arctic mantle]

Imo the btr7 just look cheap

Whiles the 3 and 5 looks incredibly premium

[astral haven]

Imo they all look expensive, the 7 most of all

Speaking of I really need to acquire a ubtr just to know how anemic it is

Yea they also make iems lel

The K9 is pretty popular

[final flame]

https://www.fiio.com/m6
the 3 and 5 resemble the m6

[arctic mantle]

I’ve heard their small portable amp are also pretty nice

@astral haven do you think an eq for the shit stack is worth

[final flame]

depends on headphone

software eq is far more flexible

[astral haven]

What?
Like buying a graphic equalizer?

[arctic mantle]

Like their eq unit

Loki mini+

[final flame]

.

[arctic mantle]

[astral haven]

Meh
Equalizer apo is your friend

[arctic mantle]

apo?

[final flame]

eq apo and peace gui

[astral haven]

No peace gui

[astral haven]

Peace gui just makes it worse

[final flame]

it's far easier to do parametric

[astral haven]

Waaaaaay too much garbage

[astral haven]

Not any more

[arctic mantle]

Super low base a bit sus

[final flame]

this is annoying to work with

[astral haven]

You literally just add a parametric EQ and a preamp and that's it

[final flame]

then how would you do multiple devices individually

[arctic mantle]

Like what could be the advantage of a physical eq compared to software, noise? Latency?

[final flame]

analog only systems

that's the main reason

[astral haven]

Physical units are for live and broadcast

[arctic mantle]

I see

[astral haven]

There are also full digital EQ hardware devices that you can use for speaker correction in the digital realm

All Atmos hardware includes that inside

[arctic mantle]

[astral haven]

But all of those add additional latency
Software EQ on windows is part of the buffer
As long as your latency in eqapo doesn't hit 10ms there's no additional latency

[arctic mantle]

Good to know

osu wouldn’t like that

[final flame]

eh osu is negligible when it comes to eq's latency

[astral haven]

Being off by 10ms can be enough to really kill your acc

[final flame]

I play with a eq it all the time, not noticible in the slightest

most players use visual reading than audio reading too

[arctic mantle]

10ms is definitely extremely noticeable

[astral haven]

If you add a vst that adds 10ms of latency (not possible with apos) you will notice your ur jump a tooon

[final flame]

and osu's judgments are forgiving enough for that much latency

[arctic mantle]

I use 99% hearing, I don’t look at the cercles at all lol

[astral haven]

And esp if you are playing hidden
It's huuugely important in timing

[final flame]

The thing is eq apo uses windows's built in sound effect layer

[arctic mantle]

I just ordered this thing, should arrive next week

ALL the rhythm games

[astral haven]

Yes which is why it can't actually add latency

[arctic mantle]

What switch do y’all use for rhythm games

[astral haven]

If the processing time overruns the buffer, your audio skips entirely

[final flame]

lekker

[astral haven]

Lekker

[arctic mantle]

Other than that obv

Too easy

[final flame]

used to use flaretech reds

[astral haven]

Wha the heck do you expect here lmao

[arctic mantle]

[astral haven]

I used to use gat clears

[arctic mantle]

Kailh box white with the click spring removed

Perfect weight, amazingly smooth and good bottom out and actuation distance

[final flame]

I used to use speed silvers quite a while back, those killed my finger control

[arctic mantle]

I can my 60he next month so it will some time to get used to them

[final flame]

still recovering to this day 😭

[astral haven]

What killed my finger control was not playing since 2018 lel

[final flame]

lol

[arctic mantle]

I find 1.2mm actuation “speed” switches incredibly shit

Cuz 4mm bottom out, good luck with the reset

[final flame]

I really want to put like a 35g spring in my keybinded keys
my speed goes up by like 20%

[arctic mantle]

[final flame]

cherry's silvers have a bottom out at like 3.6mm I think

[arctic mantle]

You should try 22mm long 50g spring,, they feel like 30~g when pressing but rebounce much faster

Reason why I like box white is the 3.6mm bottom out and 1.8 actuation

Actuation still add the middle

[final flame]

The thing I need is speed stamina
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-yq8Jk9eVmo

this chart keeps kicking my ass

I don't have enough trill speed and stamina

[arctic mantle]

China man

[formal vortex]

6pm CET for Jensen Huang's NVIDIA presentation at SIGGRAPH, maybe they are showing the new cards

[ashen spindle]

doubt it

gamescom in 2 weeks for consumer cards would make more sense

[formal vortex]

[shrewd thicket]

The should release it today

I'm buying

I need one

[ashen spindle]

https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2022/08/architectural-bug-in-some-intel-cpus-is-more-bad-news-for-sgx-users/

isnt it nice to seem intel be consistent? just not where you want it sadly

[frozen ingot]

both intel and amd has had these issues though

security vulnerabilities and all that jazz

[cursive summit]

https://youtu.be/EPNLUfvUDdg

AMD has a lot less of those vulnerabilities than Intel though

[ashen spindle]

nah this isnt specter or such, different part of the chip

[frozen ingot]

still, fuckups happen, even amongst the big boys

or rather especially among them, smaller companies slaving obsessively over every detail typically shows in the end product rather than big corps only thinking about deadlines and profits rushing stuff out the door because the market has gotten used to it and expects it

I don't want to imply intel did a good job or defend them too much but imo its kinda surprising we don't see more problems and messups with products that's gotten almost incomprehensibly complex like cpus, gpus etc

[ashen spindle]

well the difference is specter is a result of trying to make cpu go fast so stuff was overlooked and can be used now

SGX is a part of the chip that is made to make it more secure

[astral haven]

Epyc has fewer users relying on physical security features
And significantly fewer deployments in general
The deployments they have are usually only gigantic and software defined

Intel is much more about built in accelerators and edge, so there are many more companies using them and thus there is alot more need for security with their devices

That's why people are ok with amd stating in a security guidance that they are not fixing several vulnerabilities where VM hosts can see client data

[thick elk]

To that I counter: PS5

A similar exploit could be instrumental in hacking the console

Not as big as fusee gilee but still.

[shrewd thicket]

Lmao 💀

[thick elk]

Don't know about that, openbsd users or manjaro users complaining on aur...

[shrewd thicket]

I like how openbsd is put in the same spot as Ubuntu

[nimble ravine]

God

Source only is absolute pain

Shit takes like 10^43 years to compile

Unless its something very small

[crimson wigeon]

JuSt GeT a ThReAdRiPpEr

[nimble ravine]

Compiler script: singlethreaded

I prob gonna fucking replace my proton-ge package with binary one lmao

[misty saffron]

huh, just add the switch to the script

there is literally no difference between building object files one by one or in parallel

[crimson wigeon]

Amuses me seeing people run make without any -j, shit goes sooo sloooww

Also when projects still use slow build systems where the configure step takes the longest

[astral haven]

No
If you can run code as an administrator on the PS5 you have already won

[slow garnet]

Most shit doesn't take too long to compile (with special exceptions like browsers and gcc).

Compile time is also dependent on what settings you're using too. For example, LTO and things of the like will ruin your compile times.

If you wanted to speed things up, there's a couple things you can do:

1. Run everything in a tmpfs/ramfs. Not always feasible if it's a large package.
2. Use -jX (where X is num of threads + 1). No reason to be running stuff on a single thread (even on single core, single threaded, it's better to do -j2).
3. Try using -O0. The runtime performance will likely be worse, but it's up to you.
4. Also consider using -pipe. More details of this online.
5. Don't select packages which are bloated. Seriously. Sure, some stuff is unavoidable, but most of the time, there's an alternative out there that does what you need with less.

[astral haven]

I'm gonna stick to MSI packages lel

[cursive summit]

https://videocardz.com/newz/amd-preparing-new-packaging-for-its-ryzen-7000-series

Honestly I don't think the R7 5800x exists

Imo that spot is reserved for X3D

There is a massive gap in pricing between 7700X and 7900X, reportedly

[mild dome]

Wonder if it'll be overclockable.

IRC the 5800X3D couldn't overclock because the connection between the chip layers couldn't handle it

[cursive summit]

Honestly, maybe

[chrome estuary]

I want the 7800X3D and really wish I didn't have to wait any longer

[cursive summit]

Greymon reported that the IHS or the connection was substantially improved

Leading to a lot better thermals

Overclocking should be viable

So, we have Zen 4 6 core for anywhere between 200 to 250$

8 core Zen 4 for 300$

12 for 550$

16 for 750

500 $ for ultra fast 8 cores makes sense

[mild dome]

If I recall the regular 5800X offered poor value on release, as you might as well have saved up for a 5900x or just downgraded to 5700X. A 7800X would've suffered the same fate, so replacing it with the 7800x3D right out of the gate would make it an exceptional upgraded over the 7700X, whilst leaving room for the 7900X to exist for those that want more threads

[cursive summit]

That's why imo 7800X doesn't exist

AMD is going with 7700X launch right off the bat

There is no reason to have another 8 core that isn't using 3D stacking

Just sad that the X3D launch is rumoured to be months later

But I really want an announcement from AMD on both normal and 3D CPUs

3D stacking is amazing tech that AMD can abuse rn to get sales and market share

https://mobile.twitter.com/greymon55/status/1555203790529523713

Greymon55 (@greymon55)

The packaging process of X3D has been improved, which will greatly improve the heat dissipation performance.

Likes

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Twitter · Aug 4, 2022, 2:47 PM

[ashen spindle]

vcache on launch no chance because a) more complex to make and costs more and b) masively eats into their margings since it means mroe wafers for just one cpu and its not an epyc that would have bigger margins

[cursive summit]

I never said that

I want an announcement, or acknowlegement that they are launching them

[ashen spindle]

oh that we already know from the analyst day

[cursive summit]

They can launch 3D and main Cpus months apart

It'd just be good to know when

[ashen spindle]

during FAD they said zen4 launch this (Q3) quarter

[cursive summit]

Reportedly middle of September

And 3D is like, November at earliest

Since AMD is yet to have an event on Ryzen 7000, I wonder if they will announce 3D chips too

Or keep us in dark until later

[shadow minnow]

Ngl one quite nice thing about Eve spectrum is the usb hub

[ashen spindle]

if they do launch 3d later this year I imagine it could come during rdna3 launch perhaps

get zen4 out then go for the gaming crown in all areas next event

[cursive summit]

Yeah having a joint launch makes sense

[ashen spindle]

dont think it will be at zen4 launch because why announce something that makes your other products look pointless for many people

[cursive summit]

Imo 3D will be teased

With, "info later this year"

[ashen spindle]

well I guess it depends if they still only have one sku, if the 16 core will have it maybe, since that would be flag ship

if its just an 8core again I dont think they'd even tease it

[fading wing]

Because people will end up double dipping. Get the 7900/7950 now and then the 3D version when it comes out.

[cursive summit]

There's a gap in the pricing, I think they should come clean and announce it

[shadow minnow]

Yeah teasing stuff that looks like it’s gonna be amazing and then isn’t is just decreasing sales

People wouldn’t buy new stuff yet because sth exciting then the exciting thing would suck and they wouldn’t buy it either instead of at least buying the other new stuff

[ashen spindle]

well amd would like that but its less likely to happen if they announce it, more likely that people would just wait then

[ashen spindle]

no clue what this is about

[cursive summit]

AMD leaving non-x parts and 5700x for such a late launch in the product life cycle was probably a mistake

[ashen spindle]

mistake for who? the consumer maybe

not for the margins

[cursive summit]

I dunno if they will do it again

[ashen spindle]

they made a lot more money this way

why would they want to make less money

[cursive summit]

Yeah, fair, it is a business after all

Consumer should always come first though 😄

[ashen spindle]

oh the buyer does come first

just the buyer of stocks not the buyer of products

[cursive summit]

Sad reality of capitalist world

Is there an utopia somewhere? Where would I have to move to get there

[shadow minnow]

Norway

[crisp granite]

stock has been underperforming lately, had to sell

might buy in a bit once it gets a touch lower, a couple days or weeks before earnings after this year's initial GPU launch wave

[deft marlin]

AMD gang

[deft marlin]

What grip do you use, and are you comfortable with it or want to try something new?

Palm - Logitech G305, Roccat Kone Pro, Pulsar Xlite Wireless V2, Endgame XM1r, Glorious Model O/O Wireless, Zowie S2
Claw - Logitech G303 Shroud Edition, Logitech G Pro X Superlight/G Pro Wireless, G-wolves Hati/HK Gaming Mira
Fingertip - Zaunkoenig M2k (300 euros though), Xtrfy Mz1, G-wolves HSK, upcoming Pulsar X2
Ergo - Pwnage Ultra Custom Ergo Wireless, Pulsar Xlite series, Zowie EC2-A/B/C

Left handed picks (left-handed only) - Razer Naga Pro left handed edition, Logitech G Pro Wireless (removeable side buttons on both sides, can fill in one side and leave buttons on another for either hand), Logitech G903 Hero (removeable side buttons on both sides like G Pro Wireless)

Ambidextrous - all Razer Viper mice before V2 Pro, Corsair Katar XT Pro, Steelseries Sensei Ten (amateur performance sadge), Logitech G903 Hero (removeable side buttons like G Pro Wireless)/Logitech G Pro Wireless, Zowie FK2

Modular (swappable parts) - Pwnage UCEW, Xtrfy Mz1, Logitech GPW, Logitech G903

@vocal cipher

And lets not forget the legendary Zowie EC, S, and FK series 🔥

[fair gull]

idk anything about grips

i hold my g100s like any other mouse

[vocal cipher]

for me the palm section should be considerably higher

[deft marlin]

palm grip = hand exhausted lemme lay it flat
claw grip = My fingers became legs
fingertip grip = I wanna pull my mouse to move it

[vocal cipher]

otherwise my wrists hurt 😄

[fair gull]

ok my grip changes during gameplay

and situations

[deft marlin]

yea

[fair gull]

and if i have food on my desk or not

or a d in my other hand

[deft marlin]

most people that initially hold a claw grip, end up with fingertip moving the mouse up

[vocal cipher]

that's a more common case than gaming

[deft marlin]

or an aggressive reverse angle claw grip when moving the mouse down

[fair gull]

it is

indeed

[reef patrol]

Extreme claw club signing in.

[vocal cipher]

there are some games where it's always action for a long time like overwatch

[deft marlin]

[fair gull]

usually smth like this

[deft marlin]

palm grip, if thats nearly flat

[vocal cipher]

In those games I am usually holding the mouse so tight

I couldn't find a solution for that

[fair gull]

if im really lazy i use 1 finger for everything

push mouse around and click

[deft marlin]

or hybrid palm/claw

[deft marlin]

Xtrfy "sponsors" some of the best players in Apex Legends with their pog mice, like the Xtrfy M42 and MZ1 which are fingertip-grip designed. For extended periods I find those the easiest to main

they're not cheap, but not over-the-top expensive either

where chat

[vocal cipher]

fingertip grip is like M2K I guess?

[deft marlin]

editing the mouse list btw, forgor some stuff

[deft marlin]

yes indeed

though, Xtrfy isn't insane

you can use a claw grip if your hands are small

[vocal cipher]

that feels unreasonable for me but never tried

[deft marlin]

and palm is comfortable too, since its regular-sized

[deft marlin]

until you realise the mouse is 23g

[vocal cipher]

my hands are big for my height

[deft marlin]

which reduces the fatigue of fingertip grip present on heavy mice

[vocal cipher]

I will check the xtrfy

If I didn't buy superlight I would have tried those, I didn't see much to spend more money now

[deft marlin]

@vocal cipher edited

[vocal cipher]

glorious model o or d?

d seems more ergonomic

[deft marlin]

some superlight shape clones are the Zowie S2 (higher hump), and the HK Gaming Mira series I believe

[deft marlin]

worse build quality

Palm grip I find more comfortable on ambi shapes as well, so I put the O for palm grip

[vocal cipher]

I was in between superlight and model d tbh, and model d shape was much more appealing to me but read so much comments on bad qc so went with superlight

[deft marlin]

early honeycomb mouse - creak creak

[vocal cipher]

never used honeycomb

[deft marlin]

That would be the Xtrfy, and Glorious mice

and Pwnage

Pulsar is similar, but they utilise a pill-shaped cutout frame so different feature shapes

[vocal cipher]

they can in fact do something like M2K but with more MX Master shaped

would still be less than 50gr

[deft marlin]

Finalmouse - :troll:

G-wolves HSK - I is M2K clone at 38g and 200 dollar cheaper

HSK image

[vocal cipher]

ahah but that should be 300 dolar cheaper for the material 😄

[deft marlin]

M2K

[deft marlin]

true

although isn't the M2k just carbon fibre?

[vocal cipher]

yeah

the hsk-plus seems try-worthy

wireless and 38 grams

side buttons too

but don't know about the latency and all

did you try?

[deft marlin]

nope

no kash

[shadow minnow]

When will we get graphite mouses?

[stark bobcat]

all the people here with a steamdeck
Which powerbank do you use?

[halcyon moss]

Havent used one yet..

but ive never been far from a power socket with my steamdeck either

[stark bobcat]

going on vacation soon and I'd rather not be on the airplane with no charge

[halcyon moss]

@pale sigil uses one that works well for him.

[cursive summit]

https://9to5mac.com/2022/08/09/airpods-usb-c-iphone/

[deft marlin]

[stark bobcat]

eu regulation did something lesgo

[fair gull]

finally good usb speeds on iphones

with the realistic 40mb/s or so the lightning port supports... its nice to see usb-c

[halcyon moss]

they might still do usb 2.0 over usb c :p

[fair gull]

bruh

that would be

idk man

i think id like them even less then

[stark bobcat]

wouldn't put it past them

[deft marlin]

I mean mobile CPUs are getting faster

[fair gull]

and i already hate them

[deft marlin]

I/O depends on how much battery life Apple is targeting

If it’s a pretty high figure either they’ll incorporate some acutely expensive low power tech that doesn’t compromise performance or make the USB-C port slower

[fair gull]

idk how much juice u expect it to suck not to mention if u attach it to a pc to backup your 120gigs or whatever u have on ur phone it can charge while doing highspeed

[deft marlin]

USB-C might as well allow that, probs

[stark bobcat]

what does that have to do with battery life?

[misty saffron]

they expect you to use airdrop so gl with that

[deft marlin]

Everything is battery powered in a phone

[fair gull]

bruh cant use airdrop without a mac

[stark bobcat]

yes but if u re not using the port it doesn't use power

[deft marlin]

Welp apple has always been sketchy

Perhaps they’ll market it toward action vloggers or photo editing pros who’d likely use the port a lot

[misty saffron]

unlucky

[fair gull]

also my mbp only has 250gb ssd so i wont cram my phone onto it

[stark bobcat]

apple and trying to lock you into their ecosystem name a more iconic duo

[deft marlin]

If that’s their tactic though, already shot themselves in the foot releasing the M1 iPad Pro with Thunderbolt USB-C

[stark bobcat]

holy fuck why

[fair gull]

why what

[stark bobcat]

why do they sell something with so little storage

[fair gull]

idk its only half full

dont need more

[stark bobcat]

I mean especially with it being "pro"

but nowadays anything is "pro"

[fair gull]

its a pure dev machine and i ordered a 256gb usb-c stick for storing data so the mbp can get wiped for clean state

[stark bobcat]

wireless headphones for professional spotify listeners

[fair gull]

as mentioned dont need much

nor do i have an iphone anyway

but sadly my s10+ backglass is seperating

probably from a bent frame over the years in a pocket

[stark bobcat]

damn high end things getting worse and worse by the year

[fair gull]

i mean it spent 3yrs laying sort of diagonally in my pocket

and its not loosely bouncing round

but tight against my leg mostly

so i can imagine its just slightly spend out of shape due to metal frame

[stark bobcat]

I mean the phone is where it is supposed to be... I'd be a bit mad if something like that happened to me

[fair gull]

eh im not too mad

its just very slight

and im sure bending it back in shape fixes it

if not i always have the option to just super glue it

LOL

oppo and oneplus apparently cant be sold in germany anymore in the future

https://www.chip.de/news/Zwei-Smartphone-Hersteller-in-Deutschland-nach-Patentstreit-vor-dem-Aus_184336773.html

[halcyon moss]

why ppl buy phones without at least 3 years support these days is beyond me

[fair gull]

theres phones with 3yrs warranty?

not that it would help me

but now im curious

[ashen spindle]

I think its more about updates/OS support not warranty

[halcyon moss]

software yes

[shadow minnow]

Unfortunate

[cursive summit]

Huh

[stark bobcat]

??????????????

[cursive summit]

Apple's doing something good for a change

Bexin: unfortunate

[ashen spindle]

well it is unfortunate

[fair gull]

not all too interested in that personally cause well

[ashen spindle]

I was hoping this years iphone would already use usbc

[fair gull]

all apps i use require at most android 5

or newer

outlook is the only app i regularly use that would need android 8

[stark bobcat]

security updates are nice tho

[cursive summit]

I am so out of date with Apple, I thought they are already on 14

[fair gull]

that i agree with

[fair gull]

15 i thought

16 is in beta

[cursive summit]

Not iOS

iPhone

[fair gull]

oh i thought they are on 14

[ashen spindle]

14 comes out in like 2 months or so

[stark bobcat]

@pale sigil which powerbank do u use for the steamdeck? does it charge fast enough to play while charging

[fair gull]

but i hope u see why i dont get people like lana who need the newest android at all times

i just dont understand the obsession

[stark bobcat]

I mean I am not one of those people and I can't understand them

my previous phone was an lg venture x lmfao that shiit is old

[fair gull]

i always had sony phones

only got a new one from my xperia play cause it didnt do 5.0

needed that for bank app

sadly i somehow broke my z1, z1c, z3 and z3c

were all used luckily so no big loss

got an xz premium which i still have and use

[stark bobcat]

had to upgrade cuz it just didn't run well anymore and sometimes I was scared I would miss important calls because of it

generally I try to only upgrade my phone if I have to

[fair gull]

i only switched to the s10+ cause of the 1tb option and headphone jack which the sony flagship that year didnt have

the 1 yr sony didnt have it

[fair gull]

same ill run my samsung till its dead

[shadow minnow]

That may take long

[tepid violet]

My S10+'s charging port died was a crippling day

[shadow minnow]

iPhone 6s Plus from 2015 still alive with some battery replacements

But also it’s crazy that it’s already been 5 years since iPhone X came out

[fair gull]

so be it

[fair gull]

oof

[stark bobcat]

that is indeed painful seeing as charging ports are always one of the harder parts of a phone to replace

[fair gull]

im gkad i store most things in the cloud

[tepid violet]

Yeah, it was like 100 quid to repair it or something

[fair gull]

ngl id pay that

[tepid violet]

I would have, but my parents offered to get me a new phone so I took them up on the offer

[fair gull]

cheaper than a new phone plus i continue where i left off

[tepid violet]

although I got a pixel 6 pro so idk if it was worth it in the end