🔌│tech

[slow garnet]

window's default power settings will power down a drive after a while, so you may want to turn that setting off or change it.

[final flame]

I rarely turn my pc off for extended periods so data rot isn't really a issue

[slow garnet]

Not data rot I was talking about, just avoiding spin up/down cycles.

[final flame]

I mean

[slow garnet]

then yeah you're likely good as long as you don't have windows turning your disks off after a certain amount of inactivity

specifically this, dunno where it is now on win10

[final flame]

yea got it

[slow garnet]

cool, then you're set.

[final flame]

it's just in the power plan settings

[slow garnet]

well yes, but where is that , considering windows has like, multiple settings/controls

[final flame]

it's under the little hyperlink ofc

[slow garnet]

I meant to get to that thing

Anyway you found it so you're good

Whenever you get the drive, I'd suggest running a smart test if you don't mind waiting, just to ensure that the drive didn't get damaged in shipping or is broken out of the box/factory.

[final flame]

👍

[slow garnet]

Best of luck on your purchase btw.

[astral haven]

What the hell
They got the right packaging but they put the wrong item inside...

[final flame]

thankfully so far the bad sectors are in the steam folder

[slow garnet]

And for a workshop addon of all things

[final flame]

We don't talk about my l4d2 stuff

[slow garnet]

Fair fair... I don't want to talk about my RimWorld addons either

Though if we're being honest, the best L4D2 mod is this one
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=877865706

That, and the other one that turns all zombies into Louis. Can't find it though. Probably because of some racist stuff if I had to guess (context: some mods in the past (specifically a Stellaris mod which made all humans white if I recall) have been removed. my guess is this mod can be potentially seen as a racist one as well, even though that was likely not the intention).

[shrewd thicket]

But is it better or worse

[astral haven]

It's an entirely different product that I have no use for

[shrewd thicket]

That's unfortunate

[astral haven]

They are the same price

[shrewd thicket]

Even worse

[astral haven]

Eh
Same price is fine

If it was a much cheaper product it would look like I'm scamming them

[shrewd thicket]

Would've been great if it was more expensive

You could sell it for more than the product u want

[astral haven]

Eh
Dunno

[shrewd thicket]

Buy the product u want and have left overs

[shrewd thicket]

Wdym dunno, it's literally profit

[astral haven]

Alot if the products from motu just don't appear on eBay much so I don't know how to sell it

[shrewd thicket]

Just put it up for a little higher than the product u want to buy

Could be a lot less than the new value which would make it very appealing

All depends on how much more expensive the product would've been

[astral haven]

Yep

But I'm just gonna return it normally

[shrewd thicket]

Let's say u want a 300$ product but they sent u a 700$ one, put it up for 400$ fixed price

[astral haven]

Very sad tho I was hoping I could set it up this weekend

[shrewd thicket]

Yeah that sucks

Check how the return policy is they might even charge u for a return...

I've had that happen before

[astral haven]

Nah

They sent the wrong product it's on them

I bought it brand new from a big retailer

[final flame]

Might as well back it up while ignoring bad sectors

[astral haven]

Use testdisk to back it up

[final flame]

this is the application right?
https://www.cgsecurity.org/wiki/TestDisk

[astral haven]

Ye

[final flame]

oke cool, I was using macrium reflect earlier and it was just giving me a error to run check disk

[astral haven]

Testdisk will give you the error but then it will keep backing up

It'll only skip the broken file

[final flame]

okay cool

[fair gull]

i personally use drivesnapshot for disk backups

[final flame]

Midjourney is insanely good wtf

All I typed was "Sakura tree in the snow"

[shadow minnow]

[cursive summit]

Not as good as the new OpenAI one

[chrome estuary]

Well...

[cursive summit]

I keep forgetting what it's called

[chrome estuary]

actually

I've got access to Dalle2

[reef patrol]

Dalle2

[cursive summit]

Which GPT is Dalle2 based on?

GPT-3?

[cursive summit]

When I was writing a paper on GPT, I think I remember reading that GPT-4 will take a little while but it'll be like hundreds of times more accurate

[chrome estuary]

here's the 4 images Dalle2 gave me for the same prompt. Now I should've told it to show the full tree with some camera lense and apertureand all that other stuff.

[cursive summit]

Oh good lord

https://slate.com/technology/2022/08/4chan-ai-open-source-trolling.html

[reef patrol]

JOY

[final flame]

Dalle2 seems to be more orientated toward photorealism

[chrome estuary]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/990816772108202044/1005471486829658213/GLT__Penquinz01_end_of_universe_64cb8248-85da-4cdb-b011-7e31414263bb.png

[final flame]

o

[chrome estuary]

that's from midjourney for "The end of Universe"

[final flame]

it's all insanely cool yet at the same time frightening

this could ruin peoples careers over time

[chrome estuary]

yeah. I've not really used Dalle 2 cause limited credits and I wanna make sure my prompts are good.

[final flame]

midjourney is only 600$ for a commercial license annual

what's the point of hiring a artist at that point

[reef patrol]

Debatable

[final flame]

damn lol

the duck in the bg too

[reef patrol]

Sometimes it uh... yeah. Not sure why he has a giant darth vader pin on his jacket.

[stark bobcat]

Automation is a thing in other sectors as well which I am sure you are aware of and does the same thing

[final flame]

the thing is with art, people spent their entire life perfecting their craft, whether it be in digital form or in physical form

mass produced automated products while are good, they still aren't as high quality as a handmade product

[junior ore]

Yeah but the AI thing aint as good as an human. Cause its not specific enough.

But its cool as heck

[stark bobcat]

still if someone loses their job at a car assembly line which I am sure also requires some skills and can't find a different job in the same space they will still have to learn something else which some people will not do well at

[cursive summit]

Not the newest models

New models are incredibly object oriented

[stark bobcat]

automation sucks for jobs not matter the industry

[final flame]

it still requires human input and the output will change depending on what it's fed

[junior ore]

@stark bobcat except that assembly lines create new jobs, too.

[stark bobcat]

and society will have to adapt

[cursive summit]

Idk how tf do you stuff instructions into these models to process prompts so well, but AI is as good as a human nowadays

[stark bobcat]

not for the same people

and I bet also a lower amount

[junior ore]

Its a casualty of modern technology progression.

[final flame]

automation has it's benefits and drawbacks, for example a benefit would be lower prices for consumers

[junior ore]

that assumes the company aren't assholes

[final flame]

yea

[junior ore]

Automation is great

It lets people go do OTHER things

Thats the point

[stark bobcat]

I think the point from a manufacturers point of view is have to pay less for labour

[junior ore]

Its not just that

Its also reliability

More product floor meaning more supplies for the 8 billion people

[stark bobcat]

lets not kid ourselves most of the poor people don't really benefit much from automation if at all

[junior ore]

Thats just factually not true

Without automation there would be incredibly less food

And with less food, thats less food donated

Or less food in soup kitche s

Amongst other things

Like clothes

And other things of excess

[stark bobcat]

not talking about poor people in rich countries here

[junior ore]

It applies to all.

[stark bobcat]

which I should have made clear

[junior ore]

Im talking humanity

The more there is excess, the more that can be handed out.

[stark bobcat]

*could

in capitalism almost everything has a price

whoever pays that price is irrelevant

the thing higher supply does tho is decrease prices for a lot of things

which does help humanitarian efforts

[junior ore]

In everything there is a price, not just within a capitalism system.

[stark bobcat]

a price as in a monetary price

if you can't pay for a good you do not produce yourself and no one will give it to you for free or you just randomly find it on the street you will not obtain said good

[junior ore]

thats not true

[stark bobcat]

how do you get it then

[junior ore]

donations and aid are a thing and it happens. there are literal organizations that go about giving as much as they can.

[stark bobcat]

" and no one will give it to you for free"

bro

someone still paid for that

it wasn't free

[junior ore]

so? the point is the person in need isn't paying for that.

also there do exists companies that give away their excess or goods for the sake of donations freely, besides costs of transportations via semi-trucks and manual labor of moving the goods.

so, like. it doesn't matter that I worked my job to make my pay. and then take some of that pay to hand over to buying something or hand the cash over to a donation drive for, say, getting children in need things they need and such

[fair gull]

type in joe biden eating a hotdog

[final flame]

Here's joe biden in a Victorian dress

[fair gull]

thats not joe biden eating a hotdog

[final flame]

I only have 25 free uses

if you want to use it yourself
https://www.midjourney.com/home/?callbackUrl=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.midjourney.com%2Faccount%2F%3FcallbackUrl%3D%252Fpub%252Ffeed%252F%253FcallbackUrl%253D%25252Fapp%25252F

press join the beta

[cursive summit]

So it's a discord bot?

Is there a private place to use it?

[final flame]

not right now I don't think

at least without a subscription

[final flame]

what temps do your drives usually run at idle? just curious

here's my temps rn
C = Samsung 970 evo
D = Samsung 860 evo
E = HDD that's failing
G = External western digital my passport

[ashen spindle]

man discord is shit it took me 4 times before clicking on the reply actually moved the chat to the right spot so I could see what its about

[ashen spindle]

36/46/63 take a guess which one is under the gpu

[final flame]

Drive backup done

[pale sigil]

rookie numbers

[final flame]

plan to build a 24tb das eventually
that way I don't have much chance of losing data in a long time

I'm not hoarding as much as I could

[fair gull]

a das? really?

i dont see the point of a das

id go nas/headserver+jbod

well im going nas rn

reminds me i still have to file down the server door a bit

imo das solutions are really really restricting

[final flame]

I just don't want something connected to the network

[ashen spindle]

why not

[final flame]

mainly security

[ashen spindle]

if you connect it to local network and just block internet access?

[cursive summit]

https://www.gsmarena.com/iphone_14_could_be_delayed_due_to_growing_chinataiwan_tension-news-55325.php

Suck it crapple

https://www.gsmarena.com/amazon_lists_the_samsung_galaxy_z_fold_4_with_specs_and_renders-news-55326.php

I don't really understand the market for these devices

Like a pocket tablet than can be unfolded? We already had such things, like the LG's double screen Velvet

Nobody used them

[junior ore]

Yeah i dont get why some are like saying therese a new fad for tablet pocket PCs but. Like. called your phone. they've been for a while had the hardware capable of a more open ended OS

[fair gull]

so dont expose it to the net

[cursive summit]

Supposedly from https://www.bestbuy.ca/en-ca/product-sellers/16001603

But I'm region blocked so I can't check

[stark bobcat]

Do they allow 3rd party sellers there?

[ashen spindle]

I doubt "ISanek" is their own store lmfao

[reef patrol]

https://tenor.com/view/lizard-worm-gotta-go-fast-fast-eat-gif-3563529

[slow garnet]

@final flame If I recall correctly (can't check right now, AFK), around 30 to 40C (varies, generally affected by ambient temp and what is being done at the time). Eitherway, lifespan and temperatures is a mixed bag from what I can tell.
https://static.googleusercontent.com/media/research.google.com/en//archive/disk_failures.pdf
"The figure shows that failures do not increase when the average temperature increases. In fact, there is a clear trend showing that lower temperatures are associated with higher failure rates. Only at very high temperatures is there a slight reversal of this trend."

[final flame]

interesting

I'll read through that later

[slow garnet]

Woops, wasn't done typing, damn it. Anyway, some other sources indicate that higher temperatures will increase drive failure.

Yeah no worries.

I'll get the actual temperatures when I can.

[cursive summit]

https://www.siliconrepublic.com/business/pearson-textbooks-nft-blockchain-digital

[tepid violet]

yeahhhh I read about that the other day

[ashen spindle]

yeah except thats the thing where they throw nft in the word salad but its not actually one so its just buzzwords

[slow garnet]

@final flame Hey, sorry for taking so long. My old 1TB Black is currently running at 42C on idle. Ambient temp is >31C. It's in a computer with power hungry components, so that likely isn't helping in terms of temperature. In winter, if I recall correctly, it was between 30c and 38c. The two newer drives I've got are 38C and 39C respectively, idling in an old, low power computer that's been repurposed as a NAS. I've got no temperatures for winter for these as I've only had them for a little while now.

[ashen spindle]

ok maybe I should take a look just to be sure

[slow garnet]

Yeah that's not healthy. At all.

[reef patrol]

[slow garnet]

Slap a fan on that poor thing.

[ashen spindle]

should be the m2 under the gpu...

[tepid violet]

oooooft that explains a bit then lmao

[slow garnet]

Alternatively get an extension for it and place it elsewhere

[tepid violet]

Mines turning in to yours 😦

[cursive summit]

I'm interested

Hmm

[tepid violet]

yeah one of mine is going real high on temp 2 lmao

[cursive summit]

That Intel SSD life though

[tepid violet]

not the worst

one of my samsungs is at 87% I think

[ashen spindle]

I mean I dont think the temp is too much given its under my gpu I'm just going to take a look at it and thats it

[cursive summit]

Samsung gets more usage and it's barely fallen

Okay this is concerning

It's idle rn

[slow garnet]

Regardless high temps is not good IMO. High temps can slow down read/writes if I recall correctly, and also, generally speaking, high temps is not good for electronics. Then again, likely you'll upgrade before it dies.

[tepid violet]

lmao dw I doubt mine is much cooler lmao

[ashen spindle]

the nand does better when its warm

[tepid violet]

^ thought so too

but it depends how warm I guess lmao

[ashen spindle]

cold flash storage is worse

[slow garnet]

News to me then.

[ashen spindle]

ideally you want to cool the controller but not the chips lol

[cursive summit]

Put an ice cube on it

[slow garnet]

I must have been thinking cold flash storage then

My bad then.

[ashen spindle]

generally temperature going up and down is gonna be worse than keeping it at either

[slow garnet]

Ofc. Thermal stresses.

Wondering if I should bite the bullet and just buy a PDU or buy multiple power strips and daisy chain 'em.

[astral haven]

If you want your insurance to pay for things when they break, get the pdu

[timid chasm]

Hey non-iphone nerds. If you could get any phone for daily use what phone would you get and why?

[cursive summit]

Budget?

[timid chasm]

any phone

[cursive summit]

I'd just get a Sony Xperia 1 IV nowadays

Expensive but it's the best phone you can get imho

Other than that, Samsungs are probably below that

[tepid violet]

All I can say is what I don't recommend

[cursive summit]

They have problems but they are alright

[tepid violet]

google pixel 6 pro

don't get it 😦

[cursive summit]

Yeah Pixels have issues

[timid chasm]

the 6 pro is that bad?

[tepid violet]

Its not terrible, but there's just so many glitches

[cursive summit]

Software problems

[tepid violet]

yeah

[timid chasm]

I suspect battery life and camera will be most of what I give a shit about

[tepid violet]

Fair, I've enjoyed the camera quite a bit

[cursive summit]

Camera? Then definitely Sony

[tepid violet]

battery life has been meh

But yeah, sony is supposed to be great

[cursive summit]

Google has great cameras but Sony is 👌

They are literally a camera company themselves

They stuff their camera sensors into the phones

Also the battery on Sony is 5000 mAh, about what you'd want

If you want a smaller phone there's the Asus Zenfone 9

But idk much about it

[cursive summit]

https://www.cnx-software.com/2022/08/04/amd-ryzen-embedded-5000-series-cpus-show-up-in-micro-atx-motherboard/

10 cores? kinda weird number

[ashen spindle]

embedded systems are nice for their usecases but mostly just product specific bins, so pretty boring

[cursive summit]

Sounds rather powerful though

Capable specs

[ashen spindle]

its normal zen3 with some stricter limits

[cursive summit]

Where'd you even use such powerful hardware?

ATMs don't need such stuff

Space shuttles and other space stuff?

[ashen spindle]

cars, gambling machines, big video walls idk

depends on usecase

[astral haven]

This is probably more for controlling devices

[ashen spindle]

though usually those use APUs I just realized these might not be apus

[astral haven]

Could be a firewall or router

[ashen spindle]

ya anything IoT related that needs some more power basically

aka not your IoT speakers

[tepid violet]

who doesn't wanna play 4k games while withdrawing cash

[cursive summit]

https://www.hardwaretimes.com/nvidia-rtx-4090-to-feature-72mb-of-l2-cache-rtx-4090-ti-based-on-the-fully-enabled-ad102-die-may-leverage-96mb-report/

I think I found a site worse than wccftech

Just rumour mill bullshit daily

[wheat plume]

https://youtu.be/z4TGC4K5wnQ

Nothing phone disables the fingerprint scanner if it's replaced

And no way to re-enable it

[reef patrol]

So taking a cue from Apple.

[shadow minnow]

Even worse if there is no way at all

[reef patrol]

I mean there wasn't until the EU told Apple to stop fucking doing it.

[cursive summit]

How surprising

An NFT phone is a shit product

[reef patrol]

You suddenly had repair shops needing to do fucking microsoldering to transplant their old buttons over to retain the serial, after a front screen was broken into pieces.

[shadow minnow]

Well they should tell it to nothing too

[cursive summit]

Speaking of right to repair

https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2022/08/03/samsung-galaxy-self-repair-ifixit/

https://news.samsung.com/us/samsung-self-repair-program-now-available-galaxy-customers/

Even this cancerous brand is doing something

Idk how shallow these are but it's something

[pale sigil]

doing something

Nah they are just slightly playing ball to prevent the movement

I vet it's as lame as apples take on it

[cursive summit]

Now that I think of it

This is just another Samsung copying Apple moment

I forgot apple launched self repair that sucks

Samsung must have felt left behind so corporate kickstarted the same thing

[shrewd thicket]

@cursive summit they should just drop 4080 rn

I can't wait longer

[cursive summit]

See you in October November

[ashen spindle]

I just really hope they end up with a release after amd

[shadow minnow]

True

[ashen spindle]

the first time in quite a while they would then be forced to compare to amd in their own slides if they dont release first

[cursive summit]

I think I read an article few days ago that AMD will launch after NV

But who knows, the release date isn't known yet

[cursive summit]

https://asia.nikkei.com/Spotlight/Supply-Chain/Apple-warns-suppliers-to-follow-China-rules-on-Taiwan-labeling

Good to know Apple

Is there a way to blacklist the word Apple from ever appearing in my life ever again

[frozen ingot]

big corporation being big corporation

chocking

[wheat plume]

Why TF did America even bother going there???

[chrome estuary]

Okay uh...

[misty saffron]

because america

[chrome estuary]

Fucking blocked messages!

[reef patrol]

To show Mainland china that they're not entirely okay with China taking over most of the high end electronics market?

[chrome estuary]

One idiot we have went and everyone's upset about it. She wasn't supposed to go but she did anyway

[halcyon moss]

you think the ukraine war is bad?

[misty saffron]

yeah if only they didn’t keep clowning themself in press afterwards

[halcyon moss]

i can even imagine the outfall of a china - taiwan war

[reef patrol]

It's a silly circus on all sides.

[chrome estuary]

It wasn't the American Government. It was one person. She's also like every politician, power hungry and stupid as sin

China are just worse in terms of egotistical and power hungry

[reef patrol]

She literally went as part of the US government.

[chrome estuary]

She went on her own accord even after being informed against it

[reef patrol]

No.

[chrome estuary]

Formally she didn't.

Look I don't want to fight politics. At this point what's done is done.

Anyway tech talk is not the place for it

[reef patrol]

Formally she did - The White House is not the only arm of the government. She went as part of a democratic delegation on behalf of the house.

[reef patrol]

I mean considering this conflict could singlehandedly bring down most of the R&D and production of high end chips for consumer products...

[chrome estuary]

That's a loophole and you know it

[reef patrol]

It really fucking isn't - If the sitting President and the White House had all of the governing power over the country, you wouldn't have a constant stalemale in congress and the house 😛

[fair gull]

https://discordjs.moe/g31dipyp3lrf.png

[chrome estuary]

Really... That was the blocked word?

[fair gull]

yes twice

[chrome estuary]

I mean I assumed after I removed government

[frozen ingot]

tbh am glad she went

[chrome estuary]

But it doesn't tell me what word was blocked

Only that a word was blocked

[frozen ingot]

now my message was blocked

literally 1984

[fair gull]

cause u said an ff word

f face

[chrome estuary]

Because discord is just the greatest messaging service ever

[stark bobcat]

which words are blocked?

[fair gull]

look idk who enabled discord succy automodbot

[reef patrol]

And while I can certainly agree that the visit helped fuel the conflict fires, it's not like China hasn't been doing the exact same shit for years by building artificial island everywhere in the china sea to bully every single country near them into "China numbah one or else". They're not on good terms with Korea or Japan, or any country on their western side either that they haven't already annexed and committed genocide on 😛

[chrome estuary]

I don't care for blocked words but it's a whole "whatever" for me. I can deal with it. But I'd at least like to know what word was blocked so I know not to use it again instead of having to play trial and error

[frozen ingot]

yeah the entirety of non-chinese asia hates china

for many good reasons

[cursive summit]

Well it blocked an R word from me yesterday

But somehow it's fine with N words

[reef patrol]

I do believe that's been addressed.

[fair gull]

there is no public list i think

[misty saffron]

who cares? she is the speaker for the house of representatives, obviously she would be representing the interests of the united states, not her own

[cursive summit]

Good

The interest of the United States is Taiwanese independence

I fully support Pelosi depicting that

Chinese (CCP) bitching is about as relevant as tits on a fish

[misty saffron]

she should be fully aware of that, the rest of the government should be too

[frozen ingot]

anything that triggers winnie the pooh and his ccp thugs is a plus in my book

[stark bobcat]

word filters are 🤮

[chrome estuary]

I meant like... Discord telling me that "Oh that word you used is blocked" not "Oopsie, a word you used in this message is blocked, don't do it again!" And not telling me what fucking word was blocked

[misty saffron]

biden saying “bro we don’t support her decision” is him just clowning himself

[cursive summit]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/China's_final_warning

I still remember someone sending this

China can be safely ignored, they won't do shit

[stark bobcat]

suuuuuuuure

[cursive summit]

Taiwan is extremely important for West, China is extremely important to the West. China can't lose West's exports. So China can't do shit and we will protect Taiwan.

Now with CHIP's act passing, if we start not relying on TSMC anymore, that might become an issue for Taiwan

[frozen ingot]

I'd be surprised if china actually ends up doing anything drastic, they've been all talk towards the west for decades

[cursive summit]

As soon as Taiwan becomes strategically redundant, it's not good

[fair gull]

they could but that would mean they might send whatever bad word

so they dont

[frozen ingot]

they don't want to lose our paychecks

[cursive summit]

They won't, they have seen what happened to Russia

[chrome estuary]

Fuckin discord playing with kiddy gloves.

[reef patrol]

What is it with the US and having critical electronics production in super fragile geopolitical zones. Taiwan, Israel, Texas.

[cursive summit]

Russia's dying from the inside

[reef patrol]

[stark bobcat]

it's only a matter of time until china actually makes a move into taiwan

[chrome estuary]

They sent my message back to me! Just highlight it like they do for community owners!

[cursive summit]

Won't happen, not this year

[fair gull]

wait they do?

[stark bobcat]

did I say this year?

[fair gull]

then ngl idk why they dont highlight it

[frozen ingot]

when/if china does its byebye cheap goods for a considerable future

[cursive summit]

I firmly believe they would have actually considered it if Russia wouldn't have been braindead and invaded Ukraine

[misty saffron]

didn’t callum disable automod anyways or did he specifically whitelist my role lmao

[chrome estuary]

They black out my message and post their stupid bot around it saying "This community blocks content in this message so it wasn't sent." Blah blah blah.

[fair gull]

its back baby

[frozen ingot]

even more so than now with this inflation

[misty saffron]

no he reenabled it

[cursive summit]

It's not like russia is doing very well with a partial trade embargo and all of those sanctions

China has too much debt accumulated, they can't and will not fuck up their trade

[frozen ingot]

they're still doing too well with all the gas/oil money

[cursive summit]

As soon as sanctions kick in it's a ticking bomb to explode from the inside

It's already getting worse for China, their economy is dying

[frozen ingot]

enough to keep the war going for some time

[stark bobcat]

did this stop russia?

[cursive summit]

Xi isn't Putin

Putin's braindead, Xi actually has brains from what I know

[misty saffron]

wazzup beijing

[frozen ingot]

I mean the population got pretty screwed, the kremlin will keep going though

[cursive summit]

Putin firmly believed he would invade Ukraine in 3 days, then move on to Moldova, then Baltics and Finland

How realistic do you really think that is?

China doesn't do shit that they aren't sure about

[frozen ingot]

we've only just started to see the fallout of this stuff in russian society though

[misty saffron]

finland? fuck no

ukraine and transnistria at most

[stark bobcat]

china also has a much better military than russia

in terms of tech

[frozen ingot]

maybe tech, but I'd wager that russias ordnances are tougher

[misty saffron]

i don’t doubt putin was one of the victims of his propaganda and firmly believed there are many supporters of his in ukraine

transnistria is actually that way

[cursive summit]

On paper you would think so

[misty saffron]

finland? are you sane?

[cursive summit]

China has no military experience

[frozen ingot]

because putins advisors tells him bullshit

[cursive summit]

You would want your soldiers to actually have something of a basis to train on since they haven't seen combat for 60 years

[misty saffron]

because they are scared shitless of him, yes

[stark bobcat]

funny I know for a fact that in bulgaria for example a lot of people are on side even tho it's an eu country

[frozen ingot]

this entire conflict has just been russia having to backpedal on every strategic goal they've set out for themselves

because they are ultimately in the dark on intelligence

[cursive summit]

It went from "To kiev!" to "We're fine with Donetsk" real quick

[frozen ingot]

yeah nobody dares to tell the high command accurate information

[junior ore]

It was hilarious to find out they used GPS devices that ran on US services that we turned off

[misty saffron]

either you lie and try to sell it or get disappeared

choice for them is obvious

[frozen ingot]

you'd think putin would get fed up and have his staff disappeared for bullshitting him all the time

[stark bobcat]

man that invasion has shown a whole lot of the world how much of a joke the russian military is

[frozen ingot]

quantity not quality

is their motto

[stark bobcat]

especially in terms of communication and supply management

[frozen ingot]

just carpetbomb everything and hope it does something

[cursive summit]

If Russian military is a joke who have participated in dozens of military engagements in the past 30 years

How effective do you really think China is?

[misty saffron]

must be good at lying then

[junior ore]

Thing is though not even that is working 😂

[junior ore]

Whatever their effectiveness is would be speculation until its finally shown.

[frozen ingot]

tbh I think at least half of chinas arms doesn't even work, its probably cardboard mockups they painted

[junior ore]

I doubt that.

[cursive summit]

I would doubt that as well

[junior ore]

I think would jave proper arms.

[cursive summit]

China has a really good policy on ordinances

[frozen ingot]

or at least so horribly built it'll be inefficient in combat

[cursive summit]

You know how Russia always races the U.S on who has the most nukes?

[stark bobcat]

probably still a whole lot better than russia

[junior ore]

China isnalso super strict and harsh in orderly

[stark bobcat]

it isn't just about combat experience

[cursive summit]

China has done the sensible thing of "Let's have some nukes, and upkeep them so they actually work"

[junior ore]

Aye

[cursive summit]

Whereas Russia probably still thinks their 1950s nukes are still functional arsenal

[frozen ingot]

china has very little modern wartime experience, their idea of making weaponry is looking at napkin drawings of western and russian military equipment and trying to copypasta it

[junior ore]

They probably reserviced their 50s nuke. In alibaba electronics.

[stark bobcat]

you guys don't think testing is a thing

[junior ore]

Russia obviously didn't do any proper testing

[cursive summit]

Testing on what? Uyghurs?

[junior ore]

Not any thst weren't rigged

[stark bobcat]

talking about china

[junior ore]

Ah

Its better to assume chinas army is effective, regardless of experience.

[frozen ingot]

and all that testing did the russians real good

[junior ore]

There isn't anything to indicate pure incompetence

[frozen ingot]

testing vs actual warfare are two very different scenarios

[junior ore]

No but you can test if your ERA actually works

Or isnt stuffed with coardboard

Or that your fuel wasnt sold for hooker and blow

Or that your MRE wasnt from cold war

[stark bobcat]

china is building most of the stuff you own you don't think they could build proper military hardware too?

[junior ore]

Exactly

[frozen ingot]

most of it from instructions given to them by foreign entities

[stark bobcat]

bruh

[junior ore]

Nightman be real here

[stark bobcat]

china has done a lot of rnd

[frozen ingot]

its only recently they've started to get the hang of making half-decent devices on their own

like the last decade and half at most

[junior ore]

Its like nightman never heard of Shenzen

[cursive summit]

China's arsenal is heavily inspired by Russian stuff

From air to ground to navy

[frozen ingot]

I've run an electronics business so..

[junior ore]

Yeah china makes shitloads of their own electronic designs themselves

[frozen ingot]

I am well aware they make a lot of stuff themselves

[junior ore]

That doesn't mean that what you said didnt came from your ass

[frozen ingot]

am also aware most of it has been trash until quite recently

like name a chinese tech product made before the 2010s that's notable

[junior ore]

Don't need to?

[stark bobcat]

it's not trash anymore let me assure you and also they can afford to buy stuff they lack too

[junior ore]

Aye

[frozen ingot]

well designing and building military tech isn't quite the same as copypasta the same smartphone design for years, but sure, they've come a long way in a short time

fact remains that they still lack a lot of experience in those fields

[junior ore]

Again

Speculation

[cursive summit]

China is heavily tied into russian avionics and other research, this is a fact

But they have been decoupling themselves well

[junior ore]

We aren't going to know how effective china is until they go to a war

[frozen ingot]

obviously

[junior ore]

Also

Even if the tech is russian origins : the fault of russian military hardware is corruption and cheaping out on those specs.

China probably doesnt have that issue

Also terrible leadership

Terrible commanders

[cursive summit]

You really think a crappy drone that's supposed to fit a Sony camera and a phone SoC is a repurposeable hardware piece?

[stark bobcat]

SoCs are very repurposeable

[cursive summit]

Oh, fun

https://tradingeconomics.com/commodity/urals-oil

Oil is back to pre-war levels

Russia must be very happy that their oil is doing badly

[frozen ingot]

I wouldn't say chinas lack of combat expertise is speculation, but I still wouldn't underestimate anyones army until I've actually seen it in action

[cursive summit]

Everyone believed Russia was no. 2 in the world just last year, just saying

[frozen ingot]

just that my expectations aren't very high

yes that

[cursive summit]

My expectations are incredibly low for China

But they are clever and improving fast

Within next ten years they'd be a global fighting force for sure

What they haven't had until recently was actual command power

But they are working on that as well, that's good

[frozen ingot]

yeah they're not really stuck in some 90s alcoholic delirium of past soviet glories like russia apparently has been

[cursive summit]

So at least if China invades someone, they shouldn't suck like russia did

But China's state of things is far harder than Russia's

You can invade Ukraine from the thousands of km's of land border

What China has is to invade Taiwan via sea

That is orders of magnitude harder

And I still firmly don't believe China would not get wiped out even getting close to Taiwanese shores

Taiwan is stocked up on ASM's

[stark bobcat]

doesn't china have a massive navy?

[frozen ingot]

problem is taiwan is an island and its size/population is kinda miniscule compared to the almost unfathomably massive mainland china

[cursive summit]

They want to have a massive navy

[frozen ingot]

china could just keep sending meat to the grinder for years and wear them out if they wanted

[cursive summit]

China's investing heavily into naval forces, far more than any other branch of theirs

Cause they suck compared to U.S navy considerably

But they are closing the distance

[stark bobcat]

bru

[cursive summit]

After that they should work on air forces, those aren't good either

[stark bobcat]

yeah so I have 10bn dollars but i still suck compared to jeff bezos

[cursive summit]

You would be rich

But still nothing compared to bezos

[fluid gazelle]

At least you could buy your own aircraft carrier for 10b 🤣

[pale sigil]

Sorry for the auto mod stuff

its fixed

[cursive summit]

Why was that even enabled?

[pale sigil]

@frozen ingot@misty saffron @chrome estuary

It has always been enabled, i just accidently ticked the suggested words

[cursive summit]

Oof

Wait so I can drop a hard R now?

[pale sigil]

ye

[cursive summit]

Sick

[pale sigil]

its mainly racist words i have blocked

[cursive summit]

Is N word blocked yet?

[pale sigil]

ye

[shadow minnow]

It was before too but not in that form unfortunately

[cursive summit]

It wasn't

[pale sigil]

always has but i had to add a different variant yesterday

i only originally accounted for er not a

[cursive summit]

If a no role person joined the server 2 days ago and just drops "What's up nig**"

And automod doesn't catch it

[shadow minnow]

^

[cursive summit]

Good that it's addressed

[shadow minnow]

It’s not fully auto it’s filtered words

[pale sigil]

ye i never accounted for a, i just put in er

i forgot there are two versions of the slur, well more than 2

but the main two

[cursive summit]

There're lots of ones

[pale sigil]

ik but the main two used

[cursive summit]

I wonder if a slur that nobody really uses is included

Can I try?

[pale sigil]

sure?

it wont get deleted prob

[cursive summit]

Hah it's not

The only reason I know that word is cause there's a tank in World of Tanks called Spahpanzer 1C

Shortened to Sp1c by everyone

Googling that would give you racist words

[shadow minnow]

Rn I think auto mod is back to only pre set words

[pale sigil]

no

its all manual atm

[frozen ingot]

wew

[shadow minnow]

Yeah that’s what I mean

[frozen ingot]

thought I was in trouble there for a second

[pale sigil]

you wont get flagged

2

[shadow minnow]

Nvm but well 2 is imo still too small number

[pale sigil]

really aint

[shadow minnow]

Just yesterday someone tagged two people with well proper reasoning

[pale sigil]

2 people you can tag

anymore no

[shadow minnow]

Oh

[pale sigil]

@cursive summit tag 3 peeps and 2 peeps first

[shadow minnow]

That’s better then

[cursive summit]

Huh?

What

[shadow minnow]

3 is way less likely to cause issues ngl

[pale sigil]

tag 2 peeps

then try

[shadow minnow]

Is it like not on for woothelp?

[cursive summit]

@pale sigil @shadow minnow

[pale sigil]

now 3

[cursive summit]

Blocked

[shadow minnow]

Same

[pale sigil]

yup

[shadow minnow]

Even when one of the people I tagged was me lol

@shadow minnow @shadow minnow @shadow minnow

This works though

What about combination hmm

[pale sigil]

its the same ping

[shadow minnow]

@cursive summit @shadow minnow @shadow minnow

Yeah has to be 3 different people

Was curious

[cursive summit]

Soz

@pale sigil @shadow minnow

[pale sigil]

https://tenor.com/view/bane-no-banned-and-you-are-explode-gif-16047504

[shadow minnow]

I hate how discord doesn’t let you copy blocked message only delete it

[cursive summit]

Yeah text doesn't help

[shadow minnow]

lol

[cursive summit]

Decent moderation ngl

Well done

[pale sigil]

i might insta delete any message with everyone or here

unless certain role

[shadow minnow]

Don’t do that to hollow

[cursive summit]

Ngl I'd do that

Also @ Wooting team

[shadow minnow]

Well we could just disable it

But it’s enabled

[reef patrol]

Add <@&375234916776017933>, @ woothelp and @ admin to that for the love of god.

FUCK

I PUT IN A SPACE DISCORD

[shadow minnow]

Woothelp is too, I was actually for it being taggable

[reef patrol]

REEEE

[shadow minnow]

We do see the message

[cursive summit]

https://tenor.com/view/ban-button-keyboard-press-the-ban-button-gif-16387934

Ban him lads

[shadow minnow]

Like we could make the roles non taggable but I disagree

Same as any other roles

Most roles ain’t taggable

[cursive summit]

There is no point for anyone other than wooting team members to use role @s

Or Pleasant for that matter

Calder does his update stuff @s, Pleasant might announce other stuff

Everyone else has no reason to do that

[shadow minnow]

I mean other people aren’t allowed to mention everyone or here

The message shows

But doesn’t ping people

[marsh glade]

https://tenor.com/view/hades-angry-fine-im-cool-cool-gif-6029217

[shadow minnow]

Even woothelp doesn’t have the everyone or here ping perms

But woothelp being pingable makes sense for like scam messages and such

[cursive summit]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uunW0vRMk_Y&ab_channel=GamersNexus

Lol what, AMD gaming chairs?

Did they not learn from their mountain bike fiasco?

[crimson wigeon]

Looking forward to that review then

[ashen spindle]

from the thumbnail it just looks like a default gaming chair like dxracer brands

[cursive summit]

I mean to be fair to AMD Intel also has a fan merch corner...

For some reason...

[pale sigil]

welp

[ashen spindle]

so same good/bad value as any other

[frozen ingot]

of course they had to go with the future back problem inducing racing chair style too

[shadow minnow]

Yeah so many gaming chairs just suck

[crimson wigeon]

Because GAMING

for GAMERS

[frozen ingot]

I doubt the people who started that stupid trend actually ever sat in a racing chair

[pale sigil]

help?

[crimson wigeon]

You're trying to mount a disk there, you should try mounting a partition instead (e.g. mount vda1 or vda2)

[pale sigil]

oh

tried that but

oh

nvm

im stupid

got it

gonna backup

fuck this im gonna scp

[crimson wigeon]

rsync

[pale sigil]

why

scp is fine

[crimson wigeon]

FAST AS LIGHTNING

[reef patrol]

SCP-PLSNT HAS ESCAPED CONTAINMENT

[fluid gazelle]

high end office chairs are really good for gaming if you can afford a $300-400 chair

i think the best you can get is a chair that is customizable on every level

because no ones body and back are the same

[ashen spindle]

400$ high end hahahah good one

[fluid gazelle]

that's entry for the high-end

around that price range you can find stuff that is even customizable except for a foldable leg piece and a banking sorta thing

oh and an up-down function and the ability to lock your banking

things like moving the seat forwards and backwards, customizing everything it can easily go to 1500 but ye

[cursive summit]

I wouldn't pay more than 200 for a chair

Rn I have some dutch company's 200$ office chair

Hard af for the buzzums but it feels alright

[fluid gazelle]

if you want to find one cheap your best bet was around a year ago when companies went bankrupt and inventories went up for auction

maybe they're still on bva, can try

in all fairness, $1500 dollar chair>permanent back issues

[hardy vector]

If you consider the amount of time you use one, I wouldn't cheap out on a good ergonomic chair. even if they cost a couple hundred to buy.

[thick elk]

For a decent chair I think a couple of hundred is fair to spend

for home use

However if you spend that much and still get a not so great gaming chair I would feel cheated.

[hardy vector]

i honestly wouldn't go with anything gaming in the name and lookup proper ergonomic office chairs.

[cursive summit]

Idk what's this chair called anymore

This boyo

[thick elk]

I think the most important thing is to try out some chairs before buying. As most will not fit everyone equally well.

[cursive summit]

Feels alright to sit on, can't really complain

[formal vortex]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uunW0vRMk_Y&t=869s thats a yikes. billion of dollars of gpu inventory that they are trying to get out xD

[thick elk]

I personally use a 20+ year old chair I took from work

[cursive summit]

Already linked bud

[formal vortex]

sorry my bad

[cursive summit]

You are late by few hours

[frozen ingot]

ikeas "gaming chairs" are basically just office chairs with some new upholstery

[formal vortex]

👍

[thick elk]

Before gaming chairs ikea's markus was the standard. It's not terrible but certianly not the best.

[reef patrol]

Great if no pet. Otherwise not great

[cursive summit]

I have a cat, and she doesn't care

She would rather destroy the 90$ gaming chair I have sitting left over

[reef patrol]

Both of mine would rip that mesh into an open void in less than a day

[cursive summit]

Not this coots

Speaking of the chair she destroys

Scratching and a sleeping place

[thick elk]

My chair, yes it has good arm rests, however I do not like arm rests so I removed them.

[stark bobcat]

that is a nice idea maybe I will remove my chairs armrests too

[frozen ingot]

I find most armrests to be in the wrong height anyway

[reef patrol]

I find armrests cause friction burns. So I never use them.

[shadow minnow]

I never sit normally on a chair, always moving around and changing how I sit because it gets uncomfortable

Usually have at least one knee under me, sometimes non sometimes both

[frozen ingot]

https://youtu.be/NteoTonrnP8

good ol memories

[hardy vector]

They use proper 98 or SE in this?

[reef patrol]

proper

[hardy vector]

Ahh, hell on earth, lol

[reef patrol]

SE of course. Cause otherwise it would be crashing nonstop.

[frozen ingot]

anthonys school had windows 95/98, lucky bastard

mine was stuck with win 3.1 until like 1999

[hardy vector]

I was a cool kid on 2000 for a long time till XP SP3

[reef patrol]

Good old days

[frozen ingot]

98SE was peak 90s gaming

the demise of DOS took me some time to cope with

[wheat plume]

This ain't bad for a hard drive

[hardy vector]

Sequential reads can be pretty quick from a HDD

[thick elk]

I used quite a bit of windows 95 and 98 as a kid. the first pc I personally owned had windows 98 on it and had like 4gb of hard drive space and later on a very unstable usb network adapter.

802.11b really was not that great and neither was the cheap network adapter.

[final flame]

I started on a xp machine, Those were the days

[frozen ingot]

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/3/39/Atari_1040STf.jpg

first computer I ever used

running TOS, as in "the operating system"

thankfully went straight to win95 after that without having to take the 3.1 step in between

[vocal cipher]

from dos to directly win95

win3.1 I only used on other computers not mine

[frozen ingot]

same, mostly in school

it was awful

[vocal cipher]

norton commander was all I need 😄

even in win95 I was using norton commander for quite some time

[frozen ingot]

I used a variant of that called total commander(?) I think

[vocal cipher]

I remember sth like that yeah

I guess I even tried but went back to nc

[wheat plume]

Still blows my mind we can get 1 TB of data on a thing the size of a micro SD card

especially with how thin they are, you think there cant be much room inside there for electronics and whatnot

[final flame]

the power of nand flash

[empty wren]

It is just a heart

[wheat plume]

no..

[cursive summit]

https://videocardz.com/newz/intel-arc-desktop-cards-to-gradually-launch-between-august-5th-and-september-29th

[umbral knot]

anybody know a good way to downscale this to 60fps instead of 1200

[final flame]

ffmpeg

[halcyon moss]

lol, have fun specifying all the very encoder specific options with ffmpeg

[fair gull]

qwinff ftw

[fair gull]

guys i need a recommendation for a super slim/tiny usb-c flash drive with 128 or 256gb and decent read speed

was eyeing the samsung fit plus but its sadly usb-a

[cursive summit]

USB-C flash drives?

I guess it makes sense to make those now

[reef patrol]

I see a lot with double side. A on one end, C on the other with a cover.

[fair gull]

well the main issue is

[cursive summit]

https://www.amazon.com/Kingston-DataTraveler-32GB-Type-C-DT80/dp/B08C9TF8P6

I found this locally

[fair gull]

i wanna use it as a sort of permanent attachment to my macbook to offload the code stuff so i can reset macos more efficiently

rn i have to git clone tons of shit every time and i just cant be bothered with that any more

[cursive summit]

https://www.amazon.com/Kingston-DataTraveler-1TB-USB-C-Performance/dp/B09DVQ32XQ

1TB read speeds

[fair gull]

i only need read speed mainly

write can be 100 or 200

read shoyld easily be 400 or more preferably

and the mentioned 128/256 would easily suffice

sad its usb-a

would be perfectly sized for a more permanent attachment

[cursive summit]

Is price an issue?

[fair gull]

no

just size

and speed in read terms

[cursive summit]

https://www.samsung.com/us/computing/memory-storage/usb-flash-drives/usb-3-1-flash-drive-duo-plus-256gb-muf-256db-am/

[fair gull]

too big

the black part (which seems to be the flashdrive) is usb-a and uses an adapter

so basically the samsung fit just with an adapter for c included

[cursive summit]

Annoying that some manufacturers don't even list R/W speeds

[fair gull]

ye i already ran into that issue aswell

[cursive summit]

https://www.amazon.com/Kingston-Digital-128GB-Traveler-DTDUO3C/dp/B01M59PHE4 There's this

Combo of A and C

But read suffers a bit

[fair gull]

smallest ive seen so far tho

[cursive summit]

Don't lose it or something

[fair gull]

like i said would be permanently plugged in

dont intend to remove it thats why i dont want a normal sized stick

[cursive summit]

https://www.amazon.com/PNY-Elite-256GB-Type-C-Flash/dp/B07NQF6MFC
https://www.amazon.com/SAMSUNG-Type-CTM-Transfers-Compatible-Waterproof/dp/B09WB26V18

You know the product is shit when they really want to advertise USB 3.1, but don't list transfer speeds

Anyways that kingston one seems solid for a tiny build

[fair gull]

either the kingston or sumsun

altho the kingston has 100mb read according to amazing

[fair gull]

maybe i should look for super slim usb3.1 a to c adapters

altho those would make small sticks even longer

ill get the samsung one and will have to deal with unplugging it and plugging it back in

[shrewd thicket]

https://www.ergotron.com/en-us/products/product-details/45-647#?color=black&buynow=0

Would this be overkill if I want a really easily adjustable arm for my 34"

Cuz I have an arm right now but moving the monitor works like shit cuz it's just some cheap generic arm

[shrewd thicket]

My goal is to make my monitor feel lightweight when adjusting but I might be cutting my own fingers by getting an arm rated for way heavier monitors thus having to adjust it and ruining the effect maybe?

[fair gull]

i know those arms

they have a weight adjustment screw

if u dont adjust it the arm either always goes down due to monitor weight or always up

if u adjust it right it will be easy to move but stay where u put it

also has adjustments for side to side and stuff

[solar hinge]

@reef patrol this has some truth to it 😛

[fair gull]

went with the kingston datatravel max now

i said fuck it cause 3cm stick out with the samsung was hard plus it seemed to not like accessing random files too much

[cursive summit]

The massive one?

1TB space 1GB read speeds?

That's not a stick that's a whole ass drive

[fair gull]

no they make 256 version

for 40bucks

[cursive summit]

That's still ridiculously fast

[fair gull]

same price as the samsung but better read and write

[fair gull]

yes but the samsung had 20mbit random read

thats

disappointing

[cursive summit]

1GB/s read is far better than SATA drives

[fair gull]

very disappointing

[fair gull]

the 1gbit is sequential

[cursive summit]

Which is surprising cause I'd expect SATA to do better

USB 3.2 g2 is solid I suppose, 20gb/s max perf on the standard

[fair gull]

ye

in the tests i saw the random read on the kingston is 150mbit or so

basically already half the seq speed of the samsung

[cursive summit]

So the 1 gb/s is burst

[fair gull]

and realworld test with games apparently usually also get 400mb/s

[fair gull]

no sequential as in 1 stream continuous

[cursive summit]

That's still very comparable to SATA drives

[fair gull]

not some random actual load

like real programs accessing this and that at random

its the same price and ill have to get used to unplugging the samsung aswell so i said fuck it and got the speedy boy

[solemn elbow]

Can someone help me rq why is my capture card on my 2d motori not my main

dm if can help

[fair gull]

2d motori?

what

[reef patrol]

2nd monitor I assume

[fair gull]

capturecards arent on a monitor tho

[reef patrol]

https://tenor.com/view/whatever-shrug-idk-i-dont-know-elmo-gif-16565594

[fair gull]

unless they have an hdmi passthrough one which means they plugged in the passthrough cable to the weong monitor

or plugged the wrong cable into the card

[shrewd thicket]

Why would you even keep both that just hurts my OCD

[ashen spindle]

oh boy, want to see my curved ultrawide next to my portrait mode normal screen?

[shrewd thicket]

I mean that's not too weird

I'm not into Curved portrait tho

[tepid violet]

oh god I saw a setup the other day on one of randomfrankp's new videos

[shrewd thicket]

Kinda cursed like if ur gonna have a portrait uw and use a curved one

[tepid violet]

its very confusing ngl

[shrewd thicket]

Eh doesn't look good tbf

[tepid violet]

yeahhhhhhh

[shrewd thicket]

I do like the colors that he's got going on

Also nice desk

I really need a big desk like that

[solar hinge]

you don't want to see my current set up, well, one is because it's a massive mess

[tepid violet]

yeah I love all of it except I can't stand the monitors

[tepid violet]

me rn, dw

[shrewd thicket]

I got the standard gamer Alex drawers with a slab of wood(cardboard) on top

[solar hinge]

but i currently have one monitor on the side, and i only have it because it has a dock built in 😄 which i need for my work laptop 😄

[shrewd thicket]

Would work way better if he had a single C2 42" or something

And then 2x 27" on the sides

I love this aesthetic but my desk isn't nearly deep enough for this

[tepid violet]

Not bad at all

although idk what I'd do with that much monitor space tbh

[shrewd thicket]

Code, code, code, git repo and Spotify

[tepid violet]

Ah fair enough then xD

[shrewd thicket]

And slack @ work

[tepid violet]

I tried coding on my latptop once holy hell was that bad

[shrewd thicket]

When I'm at the office I usually just work with my Mac on my lap

Works great if you got the gestures and keyboard window control going on

I'm used to working on a single screen cuz I run an Ultrawide main and whilst using Linux daily for about a year I picked up wm controls and it works great on a MacBook

Idk I don't like having more than 1 monitor and a laptop to the side

[solar hinge]

here a paint example

[shrewd thicket]

hmm idk

[ashen spindle]

ew another desk pc user

[shrewd thicket]

I guess that could work

But don't put the monitor too high

Bad for your neck to look up

[fair gull]

why is ur pc made by google

[shrewd thicket]

And bad for ur back to bend over to reach ur desk if u put the desk too low

[solar hinge]

i basically lay back in my GAIMUR CHAIR

[shrewd thicket]

Desk pc is best

[ashen spindle]

eww

[fair gull]

no

[shrewd thicket]

Imagine carpet PC or floor pc

[ashen spindle]

waste of space

[fair gull]

desk pc trash

[shrewd thicket]

Hell no

[solar hinge]

no worries, electrically up and down desk, 2 individual parts, the front and the back part where the monitor is attached to

[shrewd thicket]

Whattttt

[tepid violet]

LMAOOO

[shrewd thicket]

Never seen that before

[tepid violet]

gotta represent the rgb somehow

[solar hinge]

there are actually two of them on my desk

[shrewd thicket]

It's a GRB pc

[tepid violet]

shit true

[shrewd thicket]

2 pc's? Pfftt amature, you stack laptops of course

[tepid violet]

laptop stands, smart

[shrewd thicket]

My laptop is a laptop stand

Literally

I even put feet under it

For airflow lol

[tepid violet]

big brain

[shrewd thicket]

It's cursed as fuck

[solar hinge]

I cut off the mess and/or work docs

[shrewd thicket]

OKAY

Ur going to hell

Unless u fix ur cables like right now

[solar hinge]

not even using the monitor on the side, just as a dock 😄

[ashen spindle]

Floor material doesn’t matter if you make the pc stand up ez

[shrewd thicket]

Bro is gonna get choked in his setup

[junior ore]

you running a samsung super curve monitor?

[tepid violet]

I was tempted to get ultrawide but I'd probs still need a second monitor for spotify while gaming 😦

[shrewd thicket]

Poor pc looks like a mf tower vacuum

I just want the aw3423dw but it's out of stock

[solar hinge]

nah, when i get new topplate for my desk, it'll have cable management in it, the issue is though, getting decent hdmi/DP cables that are long enough

[shrewd thicket]

49" too big for me

[ashen spindle]

and? makes it super easy to clean and move around if needed

[shrewd thicket]

Sleeve ur cables and route them at least

[solar hinge]

effort

[shrewd thicket]

Bro yes?

[junior ore]

let em have it the way they want

[shrewd thicket]

Mf spends like multiple thousands in a setup and do 0 effort putting it together

[tepid violet]

^ me

[junior ore]

if they don't want to bother with cable mangement, then thats their bizz

[shrewd thicket]

Gotta cable manage

¯_(ツ)_/¯

Take care of your shit

[tepid violet]

eh its extra effort that I don't have rn lmao

[solar hinge]

Note the missing side panel

[junior ore]

it's aesthetics

[shrewd thicket]

😭

I'm disappointed in u guys

[solar hinge]

'jus tto add salt to the wound

[junior ore]

its only not-aesthetics if its inside the computer

[shrewd thicket]

Oh my god

[junior ore]

because you don't want cables to get in the fans or on something hot

[tepid violet]

oooh its water cooling

[solar hinge]

no worries, it spills out

[junior ore]

lol

[shrewd thicket]

😭

[tepid violet]

its just a good way to get dust out of the air, they get stuck to all the cables 💯 💯

[cursive summit]

And nothing of value was lost

[shrewd thicket]

Yeah hard to lose value when ur cables hang like that lol

[tepid violet]

ooft

[shrewd thicket]

xD

[cursive summit]

And nothing of cable value was lost

If it's stupid but it works, it's not stupid

[shrewd thicket]

If it's stupid but it works... Then it's stupid but it works

[solar hinge]

i work too much, so don't have time :p

[fair gull]

https://tenor.com/view/bully-bullying-go-away-3d-gifs-artist-monkey-gif-17541617

[cursive summit]

If it works it's fine

Slushy was literally a person who threw an OCD fit over someone's home in an LTT video

Anyhow @digital cliff , any news on the headphones?

Wonderful

Marinate them, have a good taste on the sound

Mostly hoping they ain't broke so you wouldn't have to charge them back

[shrewd thicket]

Can't work in a messy environment that's literally how the human brain works

[ashen spindle]

ehh certainly not the case for lots of people

[shrewd thicket]

Even if I'm working on a project I'll neatly collect everything and put stuff back in its place before quiting for the day 💀

[vocal cipher]

some people pray before starting to work, it doesn't mean everyone should or should not... What's the point?

[shrewd thicket]

I've worked in the messiest computer store ever so take it from my experience that working in a place where everything is neatly organized and you can work organized greatly improves your ability to actually work and focus on the project and that'll lead to having more fun doing it..

[vocal cipher]

Cable management is just worth it if you are a server admin with thousands of cables, or doing representative work like streaming or youtube

other than that it's preference

And I prefer it

but it's not a norm or must

[ashen spindle]

if the messy part is in your way or the thing you work on sure, if you work on a pc and there is a mess behind the pc it's not really the same thing