🔌│tech

[empty wren]

Here you go mansen support a small YouTuber by listening to media they did not make https://youtu.be/-CmQ7PmkorQ

[astral haven]

https://open.spotify.com/track/4R2a6E4fYpi1kjp6eQuuKE?si=E5yaZnXxQFOJp21m7nm3og&utm_source=copy-link
I think this is original

[reef patrol]

I literally just linked to it 😛

[astral haven]

But I've heard a different version that isn't called that

[reef patrol]

Good luck with that.

But hey - At least I have one on Spotify I can listen. PPK and all 😄

Got it. Paul Oakenfold and two others made it back in the day.

https://tenor.com/view/kirby-dancing-gif-13019580

[astral haven]

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/ResuRection
So it is the original

[reef patrol]

👀

THE RABIT HOLE

[astral haven]

And it was signed by oakenfield

[reef patrol]

Right - Another site got that wrong 😄

[astral haven]

https://youtu.be/rRhprJV--uU

[reef patrol]

#📻│music has successfully taken over #🔌│tech

https://tenor.com/view/ataque-dos-duendes-ben10-duendes-dwarf-attack-invasao-gif-16693424

[stark bobcat]

a dark day for all of humanity

[empty wren]

https://nftcalendar.io/storage/uploads/events/2021/11/JP51lbQGE9aGrYzG8WCdEP7iAiQtHssHYfxako9X.gif

[astral haven]

Both my steam deck and my mixer are scheduled for the same day hype

This weekend is gonna be fun

[wheat plume]

UwU

[empty wren]

Colors look straight out of a skinpack

Google is doing some funny design stuff

[wheat plume]

is it even centered?

it looks very slightly too far to the left

[empty wren]

Probably not

The rounded edges on the left look closer to their background

[wheat plume]

Is there a thing I can get that can take a mouse and keyboard via USB ports and output them to more than one device at a time?

like if I wanna use my computer and then put my Steam Deck into the Dock and then wanna use my keyboard and mouse on that instead?

[astral haven]

USB switch for pressing a button to switch
If you want to output to multiple at the same time you need something more complicated

[wheat plume]

nah, one at a time

[astral haven]

UGREEN USB 3.0 Switch Selector 4 Port 2 https://a.co/apOJyIk

[wheat plume]

how many extra cables would this add to my desk?

[astral haven]

Something like this

[astral haven]

2 or 3 + a box

[wheat plume]

so the two USB cables coming out from the box, go into one device each?

[ashen spindle]

https://videocardz.com/newz/asrock-launches-custom-intel-arc-a380-challenger-itx-graphics-card well at least arc will have decent ports even on lower end so they might find some value as multimedia cards

[astral haven]

Yep

[wheat plume]

this is neat, I like it

just got to figure out how to deal with the cable management

cause the cable for my mouse and my keyboard are very long

[astral haven]

||just don't manage it at all||

[ashen spindle]

ok I dont mind the cables but please for the gods remove the plastic

[astral haven]

Nah

Monitor is still in warranty, and the HDMI splitter gets beat up

[ashen spindle]

so?

youre gonna leave the plastic on the monitor for years?

you're a psycho

[astral haven]

Nah
30 days
I mean return window

[ashen spindle]

ok thats fine

[thick elk]

Personally it would just trigger me too much to leave it on for even a day.

[wheat plume]

^

I take all that shit off day one

especially monitor stickers that show the features

and those stupids laptop ones that are really painful to remove

the plastic ones

[tepid violet]

lmao I realised when I moved that I forgot to remove the plastic on the back of my monitor after a year

[thick elk]

Back and front are very different, I have had times when I forgot to remove plastic from the back of something as well.

[latent mural]

I'm 99% sure that plastic stuff doesn't affect warranty

like if you took it out of the box, they can't sell it as new no matter what

[ashen spindle]

oh yeah it doesnt

[latent mural]

and if it's broken, you get a new one

[reef patrol]

If you open it, they can't sell it as new - period.
In the EU at least 😄

[latent mural]

yeah, a 350€ monitor I considered was 299€ perfect condition "used" because someone had just returned it for no reason

and even less if I wouldn't want the original package

[reef patrol]

And that is how you save 30% on a brand new gaming laptop with no damage.

[latent mural]

yep

one guy in my school had the same laptop I did, but got it 300 cheaper because it was the one on display

[tepid violet]

yeah got my mouse on half price for it

b stock is fun

sometimes

[cursive summit]

Now the question is

Is bstock and refurbished the same

Like returned units need to be refurbished to be bstock

So are they the same

[tepid violet]

uhh

I think they're different no?

[astral haven]

The question is how?
I think b stock means returns that weren't broken
Refurbished usually means formerly broken but fixed

[tepid violet]

yep think so

[median bone]

Can you use the wooting , 60 he keyboard and still get double movement sense the keyboard is embedded with double movement can you still get it on console if you connect your keyboard to the console to get double movement on forntite with the wooting 60he

[stark bobcat]

bru

#archived_fortnite_double_movement

[fair gull]

b stock can also be miscellaneous damage while shipping to the warehouse

usually all aesthetic damages if anything tho

altho id also be unsure how shipping trip over sea would damage some stuff like ive seen with b stock

[mild dome]

People posting the same question to multiple channels should be an insta ban

Maybe support should be moved above the general chats?

[fair gull]

iirc thats how it was for some time

they still asked anywhere but the right channel only

[mild dome]

They probably see these channels as more active and start bothering us because of it

[ashen spindle]

"Our software release on our discrete graphics was clearly underperforming," said Gelsinger. "We thought that we would be able to leverage the integrated graphics software stack, and it was wholly inadequate for the performance levels, gaming compatibility, etc. that we needed.

holy I missed that, I did not think they actually say during the earnings call that is what happend

either there are some really braindead decisions going on or they are throwing some department under the bus

[fickle ore]

you missed that? that was an epic fail

I'm pissed

[ashen spindle]

maybe I did hear it and my mind just ignored it because I did not think that could be real

[fickle ore]

I put a lot of faith on them releasing graphics cards this summer

[ashen spindle]

oof

yeah that I never did

I just assumed the issue where somewhere that isn't so dumb

maybe hardware since next gen xeon is still having hardware issue so they might launch the zen3 competitor after zen4 epyc is out lololol

[fickle ore]

I hope they keep it at it, and just not release this gen it's too late already

Botched release

[ashen spindle]

oh they need to release it, even if its late and losing money but they need to get systems out there

[fickle ore]

Ig

[ashen spindle]

they showed they need public QA if they cant do it despite having factories for that

[fickle ore]

Well atleast I can tank intel for cheap

[cursive summit]

https://twitter.com/6d6f636869/status/1555054256063156224

Takashi Mochizuki (@6d6f636869)

Nikkei: there will be no new Nintendo hardware this fiscal year, which ends in March 2023. Not immediately clear whether that part of the article is from Nikkei's own reporting or what Nintendo President, who Nikkei interviewed for the story, said. https://t.co/HJVqk9Kbef

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Twitter · Aug 4, 2022, 4:53 AM

Depends on who was reporting if this is true or not

Nintendo execs always lie

But I honestly would want a Switch Pro for holiday release

Maybe a bit too late for that, it would be leaked by now

[cursive summit]

https://hackaday.com/2022/08/03/hackable-20-modem-combines-lte-and-pi-zero-w2-power/

Huh

Wasn't it you @ashen spindle who was looking for a Pi

[ashen spindle]

Oh lol but that’s too hacky for something I’d want to be stable for use

[cursive summit]

It seems solid enough

[ashen spindle]

stuff might not work for it etc. just too much work for what I wanted

but cool stuff to see

[tepid violet]

https://twitter.com/Glorious/status/1554905087981391872

GLORIOUS (@Glorious)

The next frontier. Tomorrow.
https://t.co/sbv9j17Ft1

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Twitter · Aug 3, 2022, 7:00 PM

idk if that was put in here yet

is that gonna be a sort of macro pad? judging by how small it looks

[junior ore]

I MUST SCREAM ABOUT THE STEAM DECK

Latest update uninstalled and erased firefox, no chance of importing bookmarks or such @_@

[cursive summit]

HERESY

DECK IS HOLY

PERFECT HARDWARE

How dare you criticize it

Such impertinence

[junior ore]

lol

honestly I derped and didn't think about it when I pushed for the update.

even though it said it would.

so it was my faul

[ashen spindle]

so the deck did a windows

[cursive summit]

One of the reasons why getting the first generation product of a new family is a gamble

Deck surely is far more than succesful enough to warrant a successor

[junior ore]

The Steam Deck came with some older version fo firefox that wasn't being updated so they had to switch to the Flatpak version and I was too lazy to do it myself despite knowing it.

[ashen spindle]

ngl I still have no clue what flatpak means, to me it looks like there is now some battle of two different forms of doing apps on linux

[astral haven]

Two?

Most base distros have their own competing packaging style

[ashen spindle]

idk I just hear the name flatpak and non flatpak

[astral haven]

https://youtu.be/9HuExVD56Bo

[ashen spindle]

oh god

[junior ore]

just another choice you can have is all.

its about choice.

its not complicated.

@ashen spindle you know .zip and .rar?

[astral haven]

That's not the same thing at all

[ashen spindle]

yeah I dont think that analogy fits

[astral haven]

I believe a better analogy would be msis vs self extracting archives

[junior ore]

aye, they have executable versions

[astral haven]

The problem is instead of 1 official option and 2 total options, there are 4 options

[junior ore]

There is an official option. Everything else is user choice, at your discretion. which is a non-issue.

Like. literally a non-issue.

If you know you want to paint paint your house red, you look at the red options. you can ignore the blues and greens.

[astral haven]

You literally just had an issue

[junior ore]

I had an issue because I did a dumb.

[astral haven]

Lmao

[junior ore]

I already knew I should have used the flatpak version of Firefox from the start because I saw the news regarding Steam wanting to drop the current one.

but I procrastinated and then didn't think about it when I did the update that literally said they were going to uninstall it.

[astral haven]

Soooooooo you didn't actually have a choice

[junior ore]

NO I could have not updated, exported my bookmarks, and then did the update.

or have used the flatpak version frm the start.

[astral haven]

Woosh

[junior ore]

My choice was inaction

[astral haven]

The problem is this is a device available retail that isn't in beta

[junior ore]

aye

[astral haven]

Why is it deleting installed programs at all?

[junior ore]

because the version it was using was no longer being maintained, I believe, and it was a security vulnerability so they had to switch it.

I can double check real quick though

[astral haven]

I have several 10+ year old programs on my PC that work fine
Updating to win 11 didnt delete any of the ones I installed...

[junior ore]

okay i checked : yeah Valve did a goof and accidentally put in an outdated version of Firefox. accidents happened and they fixed the issue.

tell that to internet explorer 😛

[ashen spindle]

the reason the analogy doesnt really work for me is that regardless of if I used a zip or rar to get what I wanted, afterwards it doesn't matter anymore, whereas we see here it does matter at a later point

[junior ore]

not sure what you mean Quinn. Though yeah it is pretty big difference unless you manually download the packages.

[astral haven]

Also the only reason I keep Firefox around is so that I can access some local devices that don't support recent versions of ssl or use self signed certs
Chrome auto updates itself and ie is the one thing Microsoft deleted with win 11

[junior ore]

cause some fo these packages don't contain copies of the libraries for the programs and such

aye.

Because IE was hot garbage and needed to be dropped liek it was hot. Valve did the same thing. They acknowledged and fixed it though much faster than microsoft though.

[astral haven]

Ok
How do you install an old version of Firefox then?
And have it not remove itself...

[crimson wigeon]

But also you can just move your old profiles from ~/.mozilla/firefox to ~/.var/app/org.mozilla.firefox/.mozilla/firefox

[junior ore]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

it was maybe a bad/buggy version

oooor within the linux enviornment you control the updates. I control my updates.

[crimson wigeon]

Basically what happened is that Valve shipped an old version of Firefox in the base immutable OS, and Valve is lazy with updates so they took it out of the OS itself and delegated to Flatpak, the right thing to do IMO

[junior ore]

yeah.

also wait you saying I can get my old profile stuff back?

[crimson wigeon]

Yes I just did it ecks dee

[junior ore]

thanks mate ❤️

guess wasn't a problm after all

[fair gull]

well its only not a problem if you know what to do

[astral haven]

A problem with a solution is still a problem...

[junior ore]

a solved problem

[astral haven]

I'm probably going to run into that problem in a few hours lel

For you

[junior ore]

and for others as the knowledge is known and spread.

I probably should have googled it. again I was being lazy.

[astral haven]

Lel

[junior ore]

I told you that! 😛

[astral haven]

Copium

[fair gull]

couldnt valve have symlinked it somehow

or flatpack could magically move it

[astral haven]

It simply doesn't inspire confidence in this product that I don't even have yet lol

[junior ore]

no its sandboxed for security reasons. it's not supposed to reach outside of what its suppose to do which is handy in not needing to allow admin access.

you aren't going to have this issue because you'd be up to date 😛

and you might not be as lazy as me.

[astral haven]

Reread what I said

[junior ore]

I'm saying is you wont have this same issue*

[astral haven]

And that wasn't what I said

[junior ore]

I thought you said it earlier though?

[astral haven]

Also no

[junior ore]

my bad then

[astral haven]

I said the problem wasn't solved
What has been solved is the symptom that you experienced

[junior ore]

uh no th problem with Firefox was solved.

for all decks. the bad version of firefox is gone if your deck is updated.

[astral haven]

The "problem" with Firefox is simply a symptom of the packaging problem

[junior ore]

do you mean the linux packaging system or do you mean packaging as in product as it is open box?

[astral haven]

...

[junior ore]

not the literal box*

I mean the provided product brand new*

[astral haven]

The problem is Linux hasn't incorporated a packaging format
One symptom of that is there are 4 competing methods of distributing apps
That causes additional symptoms like this Firefox update issue

[junior ore]

wait

you refer to linux like its some entity

[crimson wigeon]

This was a SteamOS fuckup. But could the transition have gone smoother? Absolutely!

[junior ore]

"Linux hasn't done [x]"

[astral haven]

Linux is an entity just the same as the internet or microsoft

[junior ore]

also no this firefox isn't wasn't because of the packaging system or issues of that.

this was valve

putting in a bad version of firefox by accident

and it wasn't because of packaging

and no the fuck its not lol

Microsoft is a corporation run by people tht make decisions for its products.

The Internet is a collection of networks banded together, with no single sole owner.

Linux is, likewise, not under a single sole owner the controls everything and all these distributions.

[astral haven]

Yes

[junior ore]

It's not a company.

[astral haven]

It's an entity that can be referred to in the same way you can refer to the internet or microsoft

[junior ore]

no it is not.

Again Microsoft has actual people behind it.

The internet does not have exact specific people that make decisions behind it.

[astral haven]

Yet both are still entities

[junior ore]

They aren't equivalent

[astral haven]

That's not what I said

[junior ore]

why bring them up like they were?

[astral haven]

Thats not what I did

[junior ore]

because, guess what : neither the Linux nor internet have people behind it that make decisions and choices behind it that affect the whole it it. But if microsoft wants something for Windows, it does so.

yes you did.

anyways, back to the topic

[astral haven]

Except that's actually not true

[junior ore]

There is not one single owner of all things linux idstro.

[astral haven]

There isn't a single owner of Microsoft either

[junior ore]

So, this imaginary issue that you have with package manger is... imaginary.

[astral haven]

Or the internet

[junior ore]

no stop

Windows is owned

by Microsoft

The people in control of Microsoft

dictate the rules of Windows

There is no such thing with Linux

[astral haven]

Have you heard of the ietf?

[junior ore]

so fucking stop

[astral haven]

Have you heard of the Linux foundation?

They exist

[junior ore]

and are you implying they dictate all linux distributions?

cause if not : irrelevant

[astral haven]

That's not what I said

[junior ore]

thats what we are talking about

[astral haven]

Geez von ive had to use that statement more times with you than anyone else ever

[junior ore]

You keep galloping.

[fair gull]

well the internet sort of does have people behind it making decisions

[astral haven]

If there is a problem with the entity called the internet, the ietf is what handles it

If there is a problem with the entity called windows, Microsoft handles it

If there is a problem with the entity called Linux, the Linux foundation is what is supposed to handle it

[junior ore]

In terms of Internet Service Providers and governments, aye. But what an internet actually is and can be made of networks communicating with each other. Of which there are hundreds to thousands of ISPs with their own rules and all tht jazz.

[astral haven]

Which doesn't matter for a problem with the internet as a whole

[fair gull]

well i said sort of as the internet itself does rely on a few key people to for example run dns root zones and provide valid root tls certificates

and key orgs

[junior ore]

Carmon you are just imagining problems that aren't there. and I'm done with this.

[astral haven]

Lol

[junior ore]

I told you numerous times and you can go look it up : this firefox issue wasn't because of the package system.

[astral haven]

Copium

[junior ore]

you keep saying that like it means something.

[astral haven]

It's a meme

[junior ore]

yeah again : as if it means something

[astral haven]

https://en.m.wiktionary.org/wiki/copium

[junior ore]

such edge. wow. don't cut yourself.

inability to realize something : just throw memes as salt.

[shrewd thicket]

@junior ore mf every part of Linux is exposed to the public just like ur mom. Nothing is dictated anywhere, literally anyone can make Linux into whatever they want. Anyone is free to add onto the kernel or anything above it and even if it's not accepted in the main repository you can literally just fork it

[junior ore]

yup.

and then it becomes your fork.

with what you put in it.

[shrewd thicket]

And?

[junior ore]

or what you change.

or remove.

[shrewd thicket]

What are you trying to imply with that

[junior ore]

it's out of the hands of others.

[shrewd thicket]

Um no?

There's tons of kernel patches that aren't in the main kernel used by tons of people

[junior ore]

okay?

[shrewd thicket]

Yes so what you're saying isn't true

[junior ore]

eitherway i'm not gonna to talk to someone that begins with a yo moma joke in a serious manner.

[mild dome]

The truth about Linux is that when you install it a leetle penguin enters your computer. He is now your friend

[shrewd thicket]

Yes

[shrewd thicket]

You're not gonna argue because u have no idea how reality is

[junior ore]

so like "your mama too" ? is that a discussion?

[shrewd thicket]

But nice pull out strategy

[junior ore]

I don't care at this point.

[shrewd thicket]

Good

[junior ore]

If I'm wrong I'm wrong.

I'm just not engaging with an asshole.

[shrewd thicket]

No one cares

[junior ore]

you do

[shrewd thicket]

No I'm just putting out the truth

[junior ore]

and thats fine and dandy.

[shrewd thicket]

👍

[junior ore]

That's no reason to be an asshole.

[ashen spindle]

the funny part is I think you two might even be on the same side of the argument

[junior ore]

I'm not the one making personal attacks on people, out of no where to boot.

[astral haven]

...

[junior ore]

but I'm perfectly fine with being corrected on facts.

[astral haven]

...

[junior ore]

what, you blind? or you think serious discussion or respect starts with insults?

[astral haven]

A serious discussion can start with a joke

[junior ore]

that wasn't a joke.

[astral haven]

A joke is a joke regardless of how funny it is

[junior ore]

an insult is an insult regardless if it was a joke 🙃

[astral haven]

Then you should have said that you found it insulting instead of

[junior ore]

No I should have simply left and not engaged. and left before that point anyways before getting agitated.

[flat abyss]

That’s cool and all that ur beefing but can someone lmk a good mouse mat that I can get delivered quick in UK

[ashen spindle]

https://www.trendforce.com/presscenter/news/20220804-11330.html anyone wanting any more intel delays? free on the menu atm

[cursive summit]

Should we feel bad by now?

They seem kinda down

[astral haven]

They made 17 billion dollars last quarter
They don't need your pity

[cursive summit]

They don't but still

Kinda feels bad for consumers

Intel could have done a good thing for everyone

And then just collapsed

[astral haven]

?

[cursive summit]

What in that sentence was hard to understand

[astral haven]

Gelsinger is just ripping the bandaid now
Eventually they would have to go back to the drawing board just like amd did with zen

Instead of getting 10 years of iterated garbage, they are at least trying to have something good in 5 years

[reef patrol]

So... explain this to me like I'm twelve. Linus and co. just set up a massive JBOD TrueNAS vault server system.
My first thought is... what happens if a drive dies? Isn't there like zero internal RAID style recovery?

[astral haven]

The redundancy is done in software

Eyyyy

[junior ore]

it lives 👍

[cursive summit]

@astral haven

[astral haven]

Niice

[reef patrol]

Hmm?

[astral haven]

I suppose in a few months that'll be a hundred dollars

[junior ore]

It depends on the RAID. Some RAID types have built in redundancy, as in their own backups. And there's always other forms of backups too.

[astral haven]

They aren't doing raid

[cursive summit]

What's that supposed to mean

[astral haven]

It's a euro joke

[cursive summit]

EUR isn't that bad you know

I got the joke but still

[astral haven]

Yet

[cursive summit]

Don't shit on my euro

[junior ore]

oh, alrighty then.

[astral haven]

I currently have more euros than I have usd lol

Le sigh

[crimson wigeon]

Nice

[ashen spindle]

[junior ore]

Did you update it?

also what kind of micro sd card did you use?

and what format is it in before inserting it*

also which partition table*

[reef patrol]

Should any of that matter if it's reformatting? xD

[junior ore]

Yes.

[reef patrol]

Then that's on Valve for being crap at writing software 😄

[junior ore]

You set the partition table first.

it's not a valve thing

[reef patrol]

If you set it in Valve software and Valve software fails to do the thing Valve software is intended to do.
It is a valve software thing.

[junior ore]

it's also not impossible it could be in a format that is proprietary.

or its fake.

or damaged

[reef patrol]

It's just EXT4.

[junior ore]

no i mean before the card is inserted

we don't know what it is, only they know.

they as in Cam*

[reef patrol]

I mean... yes we can. Cause you're not given choices.

[thick elk]

I doubt it has anything to do with the current partitions. I would expect them to just create a new partiton table when formatting anyway.

[junior ore]

@reef patrol what not choices?

[thick elk]

To test you could try booting in a live linux distro and just format it there.

[junior ore]

When i inserted my sd card i went to a partition manager and made mine

After ensuring the sd card was deleted i went back to game mode and used that formater

[thick elk]

Or you could boot into desktop mode and partition it from kde partion manager for example

[junior ore]

Deleted and set up*

Thats what I did

My sd card wasnt new

[thick elk]

Mine went fine but it could very well have been in f2fs already, I just grabbed one I had laying around.

[junior ore]

Yeah, its possible it pre sets up a table automatically. I don't know the exact specifics of what the format button does.

[reef patrol]

I just looked at a video. You slotted in the SD, you hit format. And it starts formatting. 😄

[thick elk]

If I were to make the utility for it, I would probably just use sfdisk to create a partition table and format it.
It kind of surprises me valve uses a less reliable method.

Oh wait looking at the description that may be a bit naive and could fail

[junior ore]

Ye. Im just saying what I did was preparing more than that because it was my havked switvh SD card and it has multiple partitions.

So i had to open the partition manager and start the table fresh

[reef patrol]

Time to do an fdisk and clean dat shit.

[thick elk]

never mind old tutorials claiming issues.
sfdisk is basically just fdisk but intended to be used in scripts

[astral haven]

I spammed the format button and eventually it stopped giving me that error 🤣

[shrewd thicket]

I need a new phone

[junior ore]

lol

[empty wren]

3000 mAh is still a lot

[thick elk]

I still remember the times when replacing the battery was trivial.

on my last phone and probably my current one it's still doable, especially if it's either that or getting a new phone.

[junior ore]

gotta make it impossible t repair phones so apply all the factory glue you can.

[thick elk]

alcohol and careful prying generally works but still I wish it were easier.

[astral haven]

Ok I watched the video, they are physical jbods
Those servers that don't contain a CPU or anything else just hard drives are called jbods
The tiny server is what all the drives are connected to, and that is running zfs to protect the data

[junior ore]

@astral haven oh yeah one big fault is the annoying Steam Offline mode is still applicable for now, until its changed. You still have to at least at least have booted the game once while online after installing.

After that, to play games off the net you have to go from online to Offline Mode. It will probably throw a hissy fit if you start up the system from turned off to on without any internet and try to play a game. Or maybe I've been doing it wrong. But thats a heads up.

[astral haven]

I've got plenty of tethering data

[junior ore]

thats how I had to reinstall firefox, because work internet requires a web browser to authenticate 😂

[astral haven]

Valve installed chrome for me 🤷‍♂️

[junior ore]

you have chrome?

[thick elk]

I always just leave it in online mode to give it updates when back home and stuff.

[astral haven]

That's what it installed for me

[junior ore]

interesting

[astral haven]

Haven't opened it yet lol

Lel

[junior ore]

only thing I put there was OMW

[astral haven]

I put a bunch of stuff on

[reef patrol]

So the ZFS software makes sure all data is saved across several physical drives in some manner.

[astral haven]

But nothing outside of steam

[astral haven]

Ya

[reef patrol]

i c i c

[junior ore]

right on. I hadn't put anything too strenuous on the device. Most intensive was Deep Rock Galactic but I hadn't yet lowered the settings on it or tweaked it yet.

mostly need to finish games

[astral haven]

Yea I've got that problem too

[crimson wigeon]

Imagine finishing games

[reef patrol]

Imagine fishing games.

https://tenor.com/view/fishing-suit-hunting-looting-grinding-gif-15004682

[empty wren]

Was easier on metal unibody phones

[misty saffron]

how about you go fuck yourself instead

[stark bobcat]

It's funny because this more than likely doesn't take into account impedance and sensitivity of the headphones

[misty saffron]

pretty sure it knows what airpods pro are

[stark bobcat]

I mean in that case it is probably right lol but who cares

It's your hearing u can do what you want with it

[misty saffron]

not even loud

just 80%

[stark bobcat]

I don't have airpods so idk how loud that is

[misty saffron]

not

[ashen spindle]

oh since today we know about some AM5 specs

https://videocardz.com/newz/amd-shows-off-premium-x670e-motherboards

finally we get some decent usb port numbers

[astral haven]

I want x8 chipset slots pls 😦

[shadow minnow]

Send how moon looks from your phone curious

But also I have more zoom now Pog

200mm

[astral haven]

That's not 200mm

[shadow minnow]

It is

But zoomed in

But the lens was at 200

[astral haven]

Then it's not 200mm...

[shadow minnow]

Well yeah but I always zoom in, quality is determined by mm.
Or well resolution per some angle or however to call it

Still curious how does moon look from a phone, since 10x zoom sounds interesting. What mm is that equivalent to?

[astral haven]

10x =240mm on my phone

Filling the frame with the moon requires 100x which is 2400mm equiv

[shadow minnow]

Yeah, and there is resolution loss with that

[astral haven]

Yep

[shadow minnow]

But well looks a bit better than what I can find online from phone to me. Though wish I had more zoom tbf would be better

[astral haven]

.1 megapixel upscaled
Ive taken too many pics of the moon with my real cameras

[shadow minnow]

I don’t have more than 200mm lens rn

There is a zoom module to it but it makes focus on high distances literally impossible

[astral haven]

This was the earliest my phone could focus on the moon during the eclipse

[shadow minnow]

But it allows for over 1.0x magnification

[astral haven]

That's not zoom that's a macro tube

[shadow minnow]

Yeah but it also increases zoom a bit

I think

[astral haven]

Nope

[shadow minnow]

This one does afaik

[astral haven]

Unlikely

It might counteract the inherent focal length loss of the lens, but I doubt it would advertise that

Here's my phone taking a moon pic

[shadow minnow]

Yeah just checked it increases zoom as well

[astral haven]

This was when I was testing to make sure there wasn't moon recognition nonsense like huawei

[astral haven]

What's it called?

[misty saffron]

why does moon have a nipple

for the lack of a better word

[astral haven]

Meteor Crater?

[misty saffron]

maybe

[astral haven]

More pics from phone

[shadow minnow]

Okay nvm looks like I am wrong

[astral haven]

Here is what my camera can do with a 600mm equivalent lens (cropped in post alot)

Original photo compressed

[shadow minnow]

That’s definitely better than mine ngl

I don’t have lens for that

[astral haven]

Get a teleconverter

This uses a 2x teleconverter on a 300mm lens

[shadow minnow]

Idk may have one

[astral haven]

New ones are horrifically expensive
Ef ones are super cheap

[shadow minnow]

I do have Ef adapter and the 200mm lens is Ef

Or well it’s 70-200 2.8

[astral haven]

Ye
So you can get a cheap ef 2x tcon for that

[shadow minnow]

Then I have ef 100mm one that has 1.0 magnification and tube extended that increases that

[astral haven]

Tho 2x tcon = 2x mm and 2x f#

[shadow minnow]

And then some rf lenses, most fixed one 24-105 f4

[astral haven]

Rf tcons won't be compatible with most lenses

[shadow minnow]

Hmm not really issue for moon, bright

[astral haven]

Sure but for autofocus
And you can stack tcons

[shadow minnow]

Can you stack 10?

f2867.2

204800 mm

It is very sharp even at f2

[astral haven]

Your camera would see nothing and it also might crash from overrunning the f value

[astral haven]

Wooooow

[manic knoll]

@shadow minnow waterparks slaps

turbulent is a banger

[cursive summit]

@shadow minnow

You know what to do

Add them to the secret chamber

[shadow minnow]

It’s kinda Pog since some lenses that are f2 only are sharper at like 3.6 but this one is very sharp f2 and also even at 28mm, though at 70mm it’s little less it’s still sharp. And way better than most EF lenses. Only thing that beats by a bit it is fixed 50mm which well makes sense

[shadow minnow]

Heard it live just a month ago

[marble egret]

What phone is this ?

[wheat plume]

:')

[final flame]

ah yes crack of ubuntu

best part

"She was playing with her framework associations and bankrupts the part"

[wheat plume]

Wf xf

[shadow minnow]

Issue is they make image quality suck

[fair gull]

because it basically is

[reef patrol]

Copywriting! The most soul draining thing on the internet.

Your goal is to write SEO optimal lorem ipsum.

My first page of google results every time seems to disagree sadly. 😦

I swear every time I do a google search for "how to do X in Windows/Android" the first page is the same copy/paste generic answer that has ZERO relation to what I'm trying to get help with, with just enough SEO to force it on page 1.

Thank god for my chrome addon that lets me block domains from appearing.

[junior ore]

Which addon specifically? I too wish to block these pests

[reef patrol]

It's 100% manual.

Personal blacklisting. I am not using a filter list.

[ashen spindle]

https://twitter.com/dylan522p/status/1554889887630761985

Dylan Patel (@dylan522p)

Intel with a bunch of Optane related presentations at #FlashMemorySummit
Some the Intel folks I spoke to about this (not pictured) had no clue it was going to be cancelled until they read it on an article from Toms Hardware.
#FMS

Twitter · Aug 3, 2022, 6:00 PM

must be great if you hear about your product being cancelled from a news site lmfao

[cursive summit]

https://videocardz.com/newz/first-aib-allegedly-stop-intel-arc-graphics-cards-production-due-to-quality-concerns

https://tenor.com/view/the-simpsons-he-is-already-dead-stop-gif-5552043

[cursive summit]

Yeah that's been known now for a little bit

It's possible that even Schrout and the other lad just wouldn't know if execs want to cancel Arc and they are out there marketing it

[stark bobcat]

if intel stock wasn't already so ass they'd deserve to be shorted lmfao

[ashen spindle]

yes its been known that they stopped optane since last weeks earnings call, not that the people who were prepping talks about it had no clue xD

[cursive summit]

It was also known

[ashen spindle]

expected is not known

[cursive summit]

I can't find the original source

But few weeks back it was reported that just recently they did more marketing for optane

And then randomly cancelled it

It's pretty much obvious the higher ups pulled the plug

Which is why I think unless it's someone like Gelsinger saying "Arc will survive", Arc is on the chopping block regardless of what anyone else says

[ashen spindle]

that could just have been because crow pass had to be delayed since it only works with saphire rapids

no need to market if you need to wait on something else that is delayed

[stark bobcat]

I'm not confident in intel to keep arc alive

feels like they will axe it before it even gets the chance

[cursive summit]

It does kinda feel bad for Raja

Not sure what he's capable of

He left AMD just before Vega was released right?

And that was a slump for AMD

[ashen spindle]

why feel bad if so far he only produce poo

[fair gull]

and co2

[ashen spindle]

we dont know that

he might be a robot on solar power

[warped marsh]

My card is being declined

Ugh

I wanna get the Whooting 60He

[cursive summit]

Stop stealing them

[reef patrol]

Might want to check with your bank if they're the ones blocking it.

[warped marsh]

Already called they said they didn’t receive the Card being declined

They said it’s on the Merchandise side

¯_(ツ)_/¯

Nvm

I got it

[reef patrol]

[stark bobcat]

wasn't he like something at ati in like 2001 I am sure he has plenty of successes to his name

[cursive summit]

Idk much about Raja

He just doesn't appear to find his footing

Vega wasn't very great and that was his proud creation he advertised himself

I don't know how much he did for RDNA

But judging by now broke it was on initial release

I am guessing that was AMD's own attempt to fix GCN asap

[warped marsh]

I’m so happy

Finally I ordered the Keyboard

[cursive summit]

Vega was cool performance wise but it sucked power

[stark bobcat]

well tbh with how few resources rtg had in comparison to nvidia I wouldn't be surprised if that would have been the case for anyone in his position

[warped marsh]

What’s the monitor that has lower latency than TN panels

It was called VG something

[cursive summit]

VA?

[stark bobcat]

definitly not VA

[warped marsh]

I forgot lol

[cursive summit]

ips ?

[stark bobcat]

va is slow as shi

[cursive summit]

mini led?

[stark bobcat]

ips used to be slower than tn

[cursive summit]

Oled?

[warped marsh]

Oled is nice but extremely hot

[cursive summit]

There's a shit ton paneIs rn

[cursive summit]

huh

[stark bobcat]

doesn't matter a lot of them aren't used in monitors

[cursive summit]

Wdym

[warped marsh]

I have BenQs new monitor

[stark bobcat]

that means nothing at least write the model number

[warped marsh]

Apparently DyAc+ increases latency I mean it makes sense though Strobe light tends to cause that.

[warped marsh]

benq xl2546k

[stark bobcat]

strobing is nice

even if it increases response time

lmfao

nice monitor tho

but dafuq is a valorant mode lol

[shadow minnow]

TN should be the fastest afaik

[stark bobcat]

ips is basically the same as tn nowadays

at least he fast ones

[shadow minnow]

Yeah ips is fast now

But I hate monitors being matte

So much

[warped marsh]

The only issue with TN is the blur

It’s so bad

[shadow minnow]

And the horrible colors

[warped marsh]

I can see double images even with DyAc+ on

[warped marsh]

This

[stark bobcat]

I too have watched the latest ltt video

[shadow minnow]

I haven’t

I suppose it’s the Eve spectrum too

[stark bobcat]

lol

[warped marsh]

Got me a Kraby patty

[stark bobcat]

I actually don't mind matte that much but I am also semi blind so it doesn't matter

[shadow minnow]

I remember fighting for glossy in the community and back then almost everyone didn’t like it

And now suddenly it’s a good idea

Too late for me since I already have the monitors

[ashen spindle]

I could not use my screen if it was glossy

[shadow minnow]

But well glad it’s gonna be glossy

[junior ore]

semi blind? that sucks.

[ashen spindle]

if people want it as option for the gaming cave sure as long as it doesnt drive up costs for other models

[shadow minnow]

Still funny how so many people have their opinions change so much

After seeing it

[stark bobcat]

well I had a transplant some years ago so one of my eyes is good now

[empty wren]

It is missing pieces of a sponge

[shadow minnow]

Eve track record wish was better ngl

And well

Firmware

Is

Still not so finished

But same can be said for my wooting kb where I still am able to increase but not decrease brightness using the buttons

[stark bobcat]

the monitor I am using rn has not gotten a single firmware update

just msi things

[shadow minnow]

Spectrum gets a lot of updates

Issue is

Some of the newer ones broke usb c connectivity with MacBook in some cases

I am in the prototype tester discord too so got them to look into it

And hopefully fix it soon

[stark bobcat]

for other monitors there is a firmware tab

this was cheap as shit tho so I won't complain

much

I love how they advertise 1ms response time on a VA pannel too

[shadow minnow]

It’s hard with response times

You can have 1ms probably even on VA

But amount of ghosting

With that

Is why you don’t want it

[stark bobcat]

well I think they also do funky stuff with ambient temps to achieve that or so I have heard.

I just think it's quite dishonest

[shadow minnow]

Yeah 1ms tends to be

[stark bobcat]

From what I have seen tho msi has made some good gaming monitors lately

[shadow minnow]

Even on IPS

1 ms tends to be only with ton of ghosting

[astral haven]

They really dont

[shadow minnow]

Father had one and at least the one he had didn’t work so well

[astral haven]

Samsung vas can hit 1ms for all but transitions in the 0-20 range without ghosting

[shadow minnow]

That’s quite nice

But most monitors advertised to 1ms can have over 100sth ghosting

I think hardware unbox showed this great

Has videos that show exactly this for each profile

Ghosting and ms response

Also nice thing on spectrum is that you have like 32 levels of boost of the speed, so you can balance it out to be fast but just so you don’t see ghosting

Instead of usual 3 levels

Or 5

[stark bobcat]

bru

[astral haven]

The point is that it is far superior to digital zoom as you could see from my pictures
My lens is worse than yours but with a tcon it performs better than your digital zoom

[stark bobcat]

imagine being hardware unboxed and seeing you have to test 32 modes

[shadow minnow]

Well yeah digital zoom isn’t really zoom just cropping

[shadow minnow]

Well yeah they definitely won’t test all

[astral haven]

And a tcon is superior to that

[shadow minnow]

But it’s nice option for the customer

[shadow minnow]

Well my father sold it since he didn’t like it so can’t test that

[stark bobcat]

idk what the point is if the customer doesn't know how the affect the imagine anyway

[ashen spindle]

no for the consumer there should just be variable overdrive so you dont need to touch it

[stark bobcat]

the steps are so granular you will be hard-pressed to tell the difference

[shadow minnow]

You can see if you have ghosting and set it to where you don’t

The ghosting can be very visible

And you can adjust it till it’s just not

[stark bobcat]

can

[shadow minnow]

Variable override very unfortunately isn’t there but even with it it’s just nice

Btw the 32 steps is just option

You can use one of 3 normal presets as on any other monitor too

So just having the option of you know how it works is nicer than not having it

[stark bobcat]

honestly I'd just rather have a single one that is just good

[shadow minnow]

Well yeah but you can’t rely on companies for that

[ashen spindle]

imo having variable overdrive so you can set it to that >>>>>> having 32 steps

[shadow minnow]

It also may differ for each single panel

[ashen spindle]

seems like a bad allocation for development

[shadow minnow]

It didn’t require lot of development

Variable overdrive just isn’t supported on the mcu monitor used unfortunately

[stark bobcat]

how do u know

[shadow minnow]

I think? If I remember correctly

[shadow minnow]

It’s not a complicated setting, probably every company has the steps and they just let user chose 3 instead of giving them full range

[stark bobcat]

don't they have trouble getting the products people ordered to them or sum shi

[shadow minnow]

They do but that’s another thing

[stark bobcat]

wouldn't spend that much money for 144hz anyway

[astral haven]

I have a 2016 tn panel from Asus that has perfect variable overdrive and is super fast, no user choice and it still wrecks most modern displays...

[shadow minnow]

Yeah it used to be cheaper

By quite a lot actually

But well I got it for a really good deal since I was testing prototype so for me was definitely worth it

[stark bobcat]

there are no issues with the prototype?

[shadow minnow]

Color calibration isn’t as good and bit uglier power cable

[ashen spindle]

yup I dont understand why there are still high refresh rate monitors being made without the option

[shadow minnow]

But I have one non prototype too

[stark bobcat]

saw a funny video about this

seems like a cool thingy

[astral haven]

It requires some testing to be done...

[stark bobcat]

nreal air

[ashen spindle]

yeah its money in the end but like, it really should be obvious that is an important thing to have in anything that is not budget level

[astral haven]

Tbh I don't miss it

[ashen spindle]

I mean, same, my qdoled is great

[astral haven]

I mean black transitions on your panel are barely better than on mine lel

[stark bobcat]

I like being cursed so I am on a 27'' 240hz monitor

1080p

[astral haven]

And I'm on a 32 inch after upgrading from a 27 inch

[ashen spindle]

idk if they are even better since I cant even run it at max hz most cases lol

[astral haven]

I'm not going back from 240hz that's for sure

[marble egret]

240hz is my wet dream

[shadow minnow]

Ngl I won’t go back from 4K

[stark bobcat]

I run rocketleague and osu most of the time so 240fps is easy

I went back from 1440p to 1080p

[marble egret]

You in the graphics over frames gang ?

[shadow minnow]

Idk probably earliest I would upgrade monitors will be 4k240 10bpc monitor that’s glossy and DP 2.0 and QD LED or QNED or whatever

[shadow minnow]

I am in not seeing pixels first gang then Framerate

I sit close to my monitor

[cursive summit]

"qned"?

[astral haven]

And I went from 1440p to 4k lel

[ashen spindle]

no hes in the impossibel-to-run-fast gang with his gpu

[cursive summit]

What does N in NED stand for

[shadow minnow]

So 1440p 27” I could see pixel outlines

[marble egret]

Oh yeah sitting close on 1080 is pain

[shadow minnow]

Even 1440 was not so nice for me

[marble egret]

Never tried

[shadow minnow]

They renamed it now forgot to what

[marble egret]

Only had two screens

[astral haven]

4k240 is an option now

[stark bobcat]

I can hardly tell the difference between 1080p and 1440p while gaming

[marble egret]

Big 4k tv and then 1080p165

[ashen spindle]

not for his iGPU setup

[astral haven]

Qned was basically bs

[stark bobcat]

partially due to my poor vision

[shadow minnow]

Yes but not upgrading monitors yet

And well it’s not DP 2.0 nor glossy nor 27” yet

[marble egret]

You need the pc to run this doe

[stark bobcat]

dude 4k 240 seems very hard to do

[astral haven]

Glossy can piss off, dp2.0 isn't needed, and 27 inch is only a matter of time

[stark bobcat]

in a looooot of games

[shadow minnow]

Well it’s ok in Minecraft

[stark bobcat]

with rtx on?

[shadow minnow]

Yeah all is kinda matter of time, so I will upgrade one day but not now

[shadow minnow]

Java Minecraft is better. I mean shaders can add rtx to it now but paid rn

[ashen spindle]

well you dont always have to run it at max performance, csgo will run it and its nice, if you play eldenring the 4k will be nice even if its not 240fps

[marble egret]

I barely reach 60fps on some games with a 2060 imagine quadrupling pixels and doubling frames

[shadow minnow]

Still kinda pain how much better glossy mini led of my laptop is compared to the matte IPS

[stark bobcat]

ik ppl prefer java minecraft but rtx minecraft is something to behold

[shadow minnow]

Yes but you can get rtx in Java

[marble egret]

Seus moment

[shadow minnow]

Seus doesn’t support using rt cores for it yet I think

[astral haven]

Just don't max out settings

[shadow minnow]

Continuum though

[stark bobcat]

same visuals or different

[astral haven]

Correct

[marble egret]

Yes but funi particles

[astral haven]

Different

[shadow minnow]

Supports using RT hardware acceleration

[shadow minnow]

But arguably better

[ashen spindle]

generic raytracing is not rtx, rtx is just a nvidia term, they did not coin nor invent raytracing

[shadow minnow]

And both hardware accelerated

[astral haven]

And path tracing isn't raytracing

[shadow minnow]

Yes but continuum supports rt core acceleration so it’s simpler to call it rtx

[ashen spindle]

but its wrong

[marble egret]

Wonder if you could make asseto corsa rtx compatible

Would be dope with sol

[shadow minnow]

Okay it may not be rtx but is ray tracing I think

[stark bobcat]

I am not even thinking about ray tracing rn - sad 6700xt noises

[pale sigil]

I see a halluva fan

[marble egret]

👀

[marble egret]

What's the Nvidia "equivalent" ?

[stark bobcat]

depends

[astral haven]

If they don't say it's raytracing, it's. Not raytracing

[stark bobcat]

3060ti-3070

[ashen spindle]

around 306ti-3070 I';d say yea

[marble egret]

Oh nice

[cursive summit]

6800XT masterrace

[marble egret]

I find it funny how low 20 series still hold latest releases with a bit of tweaking

[junior ore]

thing is though the early RTX stuff released was made specifically for nvidia's

[stark bobcat]

"we do not currently consider peripheral software which can be used to calibrate or enhance your device to be an external tool, we consider it an extension and therefore part of your peripheral of choice."

yoooooooooooooooooo

fuck the wooting haters

[shadow minnow]

They say it uses ray tracing

And it uses RT cores

https://continuum.graphics/continuum-rt/

[marble egret]

How much is a 2060 worth today 🤔

[stark bobcat]

wait for next mining boom to sell it

[astral haven]

Alright but they don't mention dxr or vkrt on their homepage

[marble egret]

Yeah but rn

[stark bobcat]

check ebay completed listings

[stark bobcat]

also slightly depends on your partner model if it's a bad design might fetch a bit less

[ashen spindle]

yes my point was its not rtx, your screenshots support that

[marble egret]

More expensive than i thought

[astral haven]

Bexin
Find where it says if it uses vkrt or dxr

[shadow minnow]

Yes it may not be rtx I just called it that way

But it’s ray tracing

[astral haven]

If it's using rtx, it's using one of the two

[shadow minnow]

It may not be using rtx I just called it that way

[astral haven]

Raytracing and path tracing are very similar, and alot of coders confuse them

[ashen spindle]

yes and I'm just saying it's not it because I don't want rtx to become a synonym for something it's not

[astral haven]

Show where it says it uses a raytracing library that Nvidia worked on
Either vkrt or dxr

[marble egret]

Just use complementary shaders

[shadow minnow]

I am not claiming it’s rtx

Just called it that way sorry

[astral haven]

The point is it also not necessarily raytracing

[warped marsh]

I ordered the keyboard with the plane shipping thing

Also something about getting a Discord role

[empty wren]

You link your discord to the hub

[warped marsh]

Okay done @empty wren

What now

[empty wren]

Just wait a while you will get your role

[warped marsh]

Kk

[cursive summit]

https://videocardz.com/newz/msi-confirms-ryzen-7000-cpus-and-x670-motherboards-are-set-to-launch-on-september-15th

But more importantly

B650 where

[ashen spindle]

never

[stark bobcat]

Nah 5600x3d where

[ashen spindle]

actually never

[stark bobcat]

😢

I will be getting a 5600 anyway

For the price it is at rn and my needs actually perfect

[cursive summit]

It's confirmed so it is coming

Not really fun to launch ultra premium first

[ashen spindle]

not fund but normal for ages

[cursive summit]

and the middle lane stuff in like 3 months after launch

[warped marsh]

Dude I’m so excited I wanna hug all of you

I’m literally jumping off the walls rn

[cursive summit]

Kinda gay

[warped marsh]

I’ve wanted this Keyboard for a while

[cursive summit]

But ok

[warped marsh]

Too bad

Not only that but I’m also getting the SkyPAD 3.0

[stark bobcat]

It's funny because x570 was launched earlier than b550 and ended up being worse for a lot of things

[cursive summit]

Doesn't sound healthy to be so excited... for a keyboard

[warped marsh]

Silence Vex

Let me enjoy this moment

[stark bobcat]

You have a lot more moments until it arrives you can enjoy those too

[cursive summit]

You'd be excused from my observations if you were like a 10 year old

Otherwise I find it weird

[warped marsh]

There’s nothing else to be excited about tbh

[cursive summit]

Life's a suffering, how dare you have fun

[stark bobcat]

You can be excited in every single moment until you actually have the board in hand and even afterwards

[warped marsh]

I guess

I guess I can be excited about my SkyPAD 3.0 coming in

[cursive summit]

https://videocardz.com/newz/nvidia-geforce-rtx-4080-rumored-specs-downgraded-to-9728-cuda-cores

https://www.hardwaretimes.com/nvidia-rtx-4090-on-track-to-launch-in-october-rtx-4080-4070-may-launch-as-well-report/

[chrome estuary]

i want the ryzen 7000 series to be here already. I really want that damned CPU

[cursive summit]

In a month bud

But the good stuff won't come until like next year

7000X3D

[chrome estuary]

is it really that much worth to wait for the 7800x3D? i had intended to go with either the 7900 or the 7800x3D

[astral haven]

It'll be the same upgrade as Zen 3 to 3d

[chrome estuary]

I never looked into the Zen3 to 3d upgrade.

[stark bobcat]

3d does a lot better in some applications

[crimson wigeon]

Watch Zen4 be a disastah

[astral haven]

It went from 9900kish to 12900kish in games

[stark bobcat]

Depends on what you do check benchmarks for 5800x3d vs 5800x

[chrome estuary]

I guess i'll do the good old fashioned AMD Wait™

[ashen spindle]

there is a low chance zen4d is coming this year still, but waiting a bit also makes sure you are less likely to deal with early platform adaption bugs

[stark bobcat]

I like em mature

[crimson wigeon]

4D huh, damn!

[marble egret]

My man boutta rip his hand from friction

[warped marsh]

[cursive summit]

Speaking of the devil https://www.hardwaretimes.com/amd-ryzen-7000x3d-cpus-to-feature-improved-thermals-heat-dissipation-higher-boost-clocks-of-up-to-5ghz-rumor/

"two months later"

idk I heard 3

So these would launch with Radeon 7000

[ashen spindle]

yeah the two months seems random

[cursive summit]

I find that believable-ish, an event in mid to late August to announce Ryzen and another one in october to announce X3D and Radeon stuff

This actually makes a ton of sense

[ashen spindle]

its random since he just wrote that with no leaks or anything about it and no referenes to someone else saying it

[cursive summit]

Cause videocardz updated Ryzen launch roster

There is no 7800X

Just 7700X

[ashen spindle]

and?

where does the 2 months come from

[cursive summit]

There were a few leaks recently about 3D stuff launching in like 3 months after main launch

So I guess they copied those

2 months seems weird, still

I don't expect a launch so early and disjointed from everything else

[final flame]

gotta love when your drive starts failing, Now I have to back it up

[crimson wigeon]

weeb

[final flame]

:)
at the very least this drive doesn't have much of high importance

@cursive summit This is the performance of the WD 5tb my passport drive I mentioned awhile back

[cursive summit]

Cool

Bit slow but what can you do

100 MB/s is workable

[final flame]

I mostly just use it as a backup so speed isn't too much of a issue

[astral haven]

It's fast enough for basically any media

I store movies and music on mine

[shadow minnow]

Not fast enough for raw 8k videos

[astral haven]

It actually is

[cursive summit]

The problem with this speed is

It's always the PC that just throttles it

My USB stick can "do" 150MB/s, apparently

It's never in effect more than 10

[astral haven]

Burst

[cursive summit]

And to be fair 10 is still good

[astral haven]

HDDs don't generally have burst write limits

USB flash drives often are using emmc style flash and that stuff often has a burst limit

I own a flash drive that does 400MB/s for the entire drive

But they are omega expensive

[shadow minnow]

Pretty sure they are like 300mbs at 24 fps

[astral haven]

470mbps
230 for light

100MB/a = 800mbps

Oh NVM they are at 1700 with dci 8k

[shadow minnow]

Raw is 2600

And r5c may be double that since 60fps

[astral haven]

Uncompressed

Shooting uncompressed raw has zero use, compressed raw is bit perfect

[final flame]

damn

[final flame]

this is going to take awhile

[wheat plume]

Wait....the Deck has 16gb ram yet only 1.2GB is given to the GPU ????
That doesn't seem right?

[fading wing]

APU's dynamically allocate Ram when needed.

[astral haven]

This

[cursive summit]

Must be a new thing cause my AMD A4 always stole 2.5GBs

[astral haven]

It can go up to 8gb if nescessary

[cursive summit]

Off of my 4GB system

[astral haven]

That sounds wrong

[cursive summit]

Such is reality

[astral haven]

A certain amount is preallocated by that only goes in powers of 2

It's probably something like 128mb on the deck

[cursive summit]

Maybe I am mistaken

It was this piece of shit

Radeon HD 7480D

Must have been 1.5GB's it must have sucked

[pale sigil]

My domain is costing 22 quid

[cursive summit]

2.5 available

Sounds about right

[pale sigil]

https://tenor.com/view/fake-suicide-fake-gun-how-i-met-your-mother-barny-stinson-gif-4729061

[astral haven]

That's also wrong tho

[cursive summit]

Couldn't be

Cause that's how much it always stole from system memory

This is ancient tech

[astral haven]

Don't look at the remaining system memory
There are other things that steal system memory

Look at the vram that is reported by software

[cursive summit]

Tf do I remember

I do recall it reporting 1.5GBs

I know that for a fact cause Warframe would start to hog every time it would exceed 2GB's of RAM usage

[astral haven]

Could have been 1gb igpu reserved, 512mb bios reserved?

[cursive summit]

Could have

I don't think AM3+ sucked up 512mb though

[astral haven]

The board is set to suck up whatever it is set to

[cursive summit]

Now I do remember

I upgraded system memory from 4 to 8Gbs

And he stole additional 1GB

It was like 5.5GB usable from 8

[final flame]

probably going to replace the dying drive with this
https://www.amazon.com/Black-Performance-Desktop-Hard-Drive/dp/B0792G331G/ref=sr_1_2?crid=10Z23JQOXIVLE&keywords=wd%2Bblack%2Bhdd&qid=1659725113&sprefix=wd%2Bblack%2Bhdd%2Caps%2C208&sr=8-2&th=1

[slow garnet]

Fair warning: those things are loud as fuck. But they're good.

[reef patrol]

Make sure it's CMR if you expect to write to it often and a lot.

[slow garnet]

It's CMR AFAIK.

[final flame]

yea the blacks are cmr

[slow garnet]

The only non CMR version of the WD Black series is the 2.5" 1TB one.

[reef patrol]

I would hope so - But at this point I don't take anything for given unless it's specifically spelled out 😄

[final flame]

this is from tomshardware

[slow garnet]

True, true...

[final flame]

honestly I'd hope the blacks seeing them as a performance drive they should be cmr regardless

alr thanks

[slow garnet]

Just realised that's old documentation, shit.

https://www.westerndigital.com/tools/documentRequestHandler?docPath=/content/dam/doc-library/en_us/assets/public/western-digital/product/internal-drives/wd-black-hdd/product-brief-western-digital-wd-black-pc-hdd.pdf

This is the correct one, my bad.

Right under model number, it says recording technology.

[final flame]

model # is right

[slow garnet]

All of the 3.5" series are CMR. The only non-CMR one for the WD Black series is the 1TB 2.5" one.
https://www.westerndigital.com/tools/documentRequestHandler?docPath=/content/dam/doc-library/en_us/assets/public/western-digital/product/internal-drives/wd-black-hdd/product-brief-western-digital-wd-black-mobile-hdd.pdf
Also another thing to note: Most SMR drives have larger caches and tend to draw more power (iffy on the power one).

There's also a couple different websites that will tell you if a drive is SMR or not, but I don't know how accurate, reliable, or up to date those are.

[final flame]

👍
going to be using mostly for archive storage and games

[slow garnet]

https://tenor.com/view/that-is-a-fine-investment-lyle-anderson-murdoch-mysteries-a-good-purchase-wise-choice-gif-23721570

Also 5 year warranty. So if you get a shit one, you can replace it (if warranty isn't shot, depends on where you get the drive).

Not a shill btw , just genuinely had good experiences with WD Blacks so far

[final flame]

yea amazon has a lot of reviews for bad warranties, going to look around a bit before the final purchase

[slow garnet]

Yeah, that's what I was referring to. I think Amazon will take it back though even if the warranty is shot if the product is defective, but never needed to do so yet.

[final flame]

btw the drive that started to fail is the cheap 2tb seagate one

the most popular drive people use

[slow garnet]

popular != good, but anyhow, one word of advice for the new drive: if you're using it for archival and games, if it's more for the former, you might wanna consider keeping them on 24/7 to increase lifespan somewhat.