🔌│tech

[misty saffron]

who needs audit log when you can blame pleasant

[pale sigil]

Pretty sure most of us ssaw the video XD

[reef patrol]

Their only weak point.

I'm not buying a new laptop at that price range. I'm going to keep looking for a deal, whatever brand it ends up being.

[misty saffron]

“when it’s time to get a new cpu, you just buy the new motherboard”

i mean i guess it’s not any different with desktop intel cpus

[halcyon moss]

im totally looking for a new laptop at that pricepoint :p

[wheat plume]

Yeah, true xd but this is a thin laptop

[halcyon moss]

but amd 6000 please

also not super convinced by the framework "modules"

[misty saffron]

not super convinced by windows laptops in general

or linux, if you will, which i believe is a worse nightmare

[halcyon moss]

im gonna slap ubuntu on it so fast

[final flame]

it fixes the issue so you can get a good crop since it doesn't actually show the indicator + the crop tool in discord can only zoom in so much if you have a image larger than that you wont get a good crop

[fair gull]

ah

basically

precheck

[final flame]

yea

[fair gull]

if it has all the indicators amd mobile indicator placement it would be god tier

cause mobile indicators almost dont cut into the pic at all

[final flame]

it could be made into a website easily to show all the different sizes on different resolutions and platforms

[fair gull]

do it

make money

[final flame]

but idk website design so yea

[misty saffron]

oh look at least they’re consistent between ios and android

[fair gull]

hollow

check memberlist

[misty saffron]

nvm

[fair gull]

fuckin joke

[misty saffron]

you’re telling me they wrote separate code

[fair gull]

ya memberlist uses desktop placement of the indicator

[misty saffron]

for member list and profile sheet

discord devs get paid hourly

like phone displays are high res enough to make the online indicators appear as good when they’re small

what the fuck

[wheat plume]

this is odd

when you launch GIMP on windows, it needs to launch a temrinal window

[final flame]

no it doesn't from what I know

[wheat plume]

unles this is because im using dev edition?

[misty saffron]

compiled as console application

[crimson wigeon]

Yes literally read the last line there..

[wheat plume]

LOL

fair

[misty saffron]

or explicit AllocConsole() call

the better question is why are you using gimp

[final flame]

fr

[wheat plume]

cause its nice to quickly do a thing that the editing in the image viewer doesnt do

[ashen spindle]

why are you using the dev version

[misty saffron]

cracked photoshop exists though

💀

[final flame]

if you need to do quick edits paint.net is far easier to use

[wheat plume]

cause I installed it with winget and I was curious about the nightly build

[ashen spindle]

so for no reason got it

[wheat plume]

ye

[misty saffron]

quin i thought you’re not new

[final flame]

didn't keep the groups smh

oh nvm it did

did it keep the clipping mask?

[wheat plume]

I saw a flatpak app one time that did this stuff automatically for a bunch of popular apps

forgot the name ;-;

you just gave it an image and it showed you various sizes and shapes you can change it to

might have been this https://flathub.org/apps/details/com.github.taiko2k.avvie

[halcyon moss]

i have never thought so much about a profile pic

[wheat plume]

I hate aligning them right on Discord .-.

[halcyon moss]

i keep forgetting i even have one here

[wheat plume]

it changes from the preview to what you end up with

[final flame]

aligning stuff can be annoying sometimes, And since discord only allows you to change it twice in a certain time period

[wheat plume]

yep .-.

[misty saffron]

what even is that rate limit lmao

[final flame]

it does it for banners too

despite paying for banners

[wheat plume]

didnt people use scripts at one point to automatically change their pfp every half second so they could get "animated" profile photos?

[misty saffron]

small company with bad servers i guess

[final flame]

they also removed apngs from discord entirely

[wheat plume]

yep

[final flame]

people used to use those for pfps too

[misty saffron]

sure but twice per x minutes makes zero sense

[wheat plume]

yeh ;-.

[fair gull]

u see its once every 30mins

or was it 60

ya its once an hr

[cursive summit]

https://videocardz.com/newz/msi-meg-x670e-godlike-pcb-and-specs-leak-out-2421-phase-vrm-design-for-amd-ryzen-7000-series

[wheat plume]

LOL

desicned

[timid chasm]

peacock

[wheat plume]

its bigger than the pipi phone

[timid chasm]

this conversations getting a little to real and personal I'm out

[wheat plume]

:')

a lot bigger than the pipi

[wheat plume]

so uh...how do you fix a very badly burned in AMOLED screen?

my uncle NEVER locks his fucking phone, he just uses the cover case to cover the screen and forgets about it

so all the home scren icons are burned in really badly

[reef patrol]

You replace it?

[marble egret]

I dont think severe burning has fixes

[wheat plume]

hes had the phone like 5 months

replacing isnt an option

[reef patrol]

Then he'll have to suffer in silence.

Or try his luck with warranty. 😄

[wheat plume]

and learn to FUCKING LOCK THE PHONE .-.

[marble egret]

Screen replacements can cost less than 100 bucks depending on where you do it and what phone it is

[reef patrol]

Since the phone is less than 6months old he might get lucky.

[crimson wigeon]

Screens by default are turned off after a little bit, not sure why one would turn that off

[marble egret]

Obv if you have an iphone never repair it at an official iphone shop

[crimson wigeon]

But also aren't cases supposed to do magic to turn off the screen

[wheat plume]

this one doesnt

[marble egret]

So it's not a brand new ultra recent phone right ?

[reef patrol]

That's just shitty design. They have a light sensor that if blocked should shut off the screen fast. And in general.

Unless you specifically bypass this.

[wheat plume]

i set his screen timeout to the lowest setting in the hopes it wont get worse

cause he also keeps the screen at full brightness cause he uses his phone outdoors basically all day

[wheat plume]

Fucking finally

a review about the nothing phone that talks about the software

https://youtu.be/wlunta2PK0A

you can slide the network bubble for hotspot and data

hmm

[wheat plume]

ko

[ashen spindle]

cant wait for this to jump even more after earnings today

https://tenor.com/view/sickos-sicko-haha-yes-creeper-gif-25057805

[cursive summit]

What

Since when is it in 100s???

[ashen spindle]

took a small dip but thats not new

unless you are looking at euro prices

[marble egret]

These are stocks ?

[cursive summit]

Yes it's a mystical concept

[marble egret]

Lmao

[junior ore]

no?

[cursive summit]

Just use krita

[marble egret]

W

[astral haven]

Correct

[shrewd thicket]

i wish there was good phones on the market rn

my SOT of my oneplus 7t pro is literally less than 3 and a half hours

[cursive summit]

... there are good phones on the market rn...

[shrewd thicket]

yes good budget phones

let me rephrase

good high end smartphones

[cursive summit]

There are good budget phones in the market rn as well..

[marble egret]

Redmi is decent for vudget

[cursive summit]

And there are also good high end ones...

[shrewd thicket]

no

maybe in terms of hardware

but no way am i getting a samsung

[cursive summit]

Nobody said Samsung

[shrewd thicket]

my dad has the S22 Ultra and its awful

[cursive summit]

There's another one that starts with S

[shrewd thicket]

Well oneplus fell off

[cursive summit]

And they make phenomenal phones

[shrewd thicket]

xiaomi is eh

[cursive summit]

Just nobody ever remembers they exist

[shrewd thicket]

not getting one

[misty saffron]

you mean sugoma?

[cursive summit]

dik?

[shrewd thicket]

Iphone 14 pro is on my list but apple would need some great convincing lol

and it aint out

[marble egret]

Wait

What other brand starts with s

[cursive summit]

It's a 4 letter one

Ends with Y

[marble egret]

Bruh

[cursive summit]

I keep talking about it

[shrewd thicket]

i guess sony

[cursive summit]

That it is

[shrewd thicket]

but no way am i getting a sony lol

[cursive summit]

Sony Xperia is THE high end smartphone

[marble egret]

Only experience i had with sony phone lasted 2 updates

[misty saffron]

definitely gonna buy the new iphone unless somebody else decides to make something as good that would completely outweigh the fact android is terrible

[shrewd thicket]

I want nothing to make a high end nothing phone

[marble egret]

Phone died as soon as the second update finished

[cursive summit]

So you are retarded, I see

[shrewd thicket]

tbh just slap a SD8G1 in the nothing phone 1 and put some better sensors in the camera, ill download gcam mod and be happy

[cursive summit]

Sony - top end hardware, clean software, fully unlockable and moddable

Price to match is the main negative

[halcyon moss]

No support

[cursive summit]

Support for what

[shrewd thicket]

i was about to look ^

ROM support

[misty saffron]

and, you know, the giant bezels

[halcyon moss]

Update suppory

[misty saffron]

going back to 2016

[cursive summit]

It literally has ROMs

Made for it

[shrewd thicket]

they're symmetrical on the nothing phone so idm

[halcyon moss]

I don't want roms

[misty saffron]

i mean sony

[shrewd thicket]

name a phone let me look on XDA

[cursive summit]

Xperia 1 IV

And don't bother I already looked, it's there

[misty saffron]

and yes we know that nothing has made an iphone

[shrewd thicket]

xda forum for new devices sucks holy shit

[halcyon moss]

Sony who seriously downgraded the performance of its cameras when rooting?

[shrewd thicket]

wait what

[misty saffron]

samsung did too, don’t worry

copying from the best

[shrewd thicket]

there is no roms

[halcyon moss]

In the past

[shrewd thicket]

there is literally nothing in the development category for this phone....

ur kidding

LMAO

nothing even in themes apps mods

thats so sad omg

same story

[cursive summit]

Tf

Xperia 1 III has a shit ton of ROMs

Tbf 1 IV came out like what, a month or two ago

[shrewd thicket]

doesn't matter

I made the how to root guide for the 7T Pro literally day 1 i got the phone (and i preordered) which was an achievement back then because android 10 ootb changed a lot about the partition layout of this phone making rooting difficult with the state of magisk back then

https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/updated-all-versions-models-root-oneplus-7t-pro.3986351/

8 days after release

bruh also that top comment is delusional

the dude is arguing with another guy and he thinks that guy is the OP

he's not even following my guide either he's doing something completely different

thats hilarious

also excuse the username i made that account when i was 13 tryna figure out how to root my shield k1 tablet LOL

[wheat plume]

THE NEW MACBOOK LAPTOP KEYBOARDS ARENT BACKLIT??? wat tf

surely they are?

I need to look into this

[shrewd thicket]

what did u think

[marble egret]

Welcome to apple products

[wheat plume]

o.o

[shrewd thicket]

i dont know any recent macbook that isnt backlit

[wheat plume]

the new Air doesnt seem to be

at least in this video

do you have to manually enable it, maybe?

[shrewd thicket]

Keyboard and Trackpad
Backlit Magic Keyboard with:

https://support.apple.com/kb/SP869?locale=en_US

[shrewd thicket]

backlight isnt always on

that would ruin ur battery life and its stupid regardless

it goes on when you're typing

if u have the brightness up

u can slide it

and the macbook air has this too

m2

[wheat plume]

ahh ok good good

[shrewd thicket]

i have the brightness pretty low because i find the screen already lights up the keys enough

[wheat plume]

yeh, I barely use mine except in the dark

[shrewd thicket]

same

[wheat plume]

my new laptop turns the backlight off after 15 seconds if you dont use the keyboard

[shrewd thicket]

Nah too much effort

[shrewd thicket]

Same

[wheat plume]

which is done via hardware cause it happens the same way in any OS

[shrewd thicket]

Oddly enough it goes on even when I type on a external keyboard lol

[wheat plume]

o.o

that seems not correct

[shrewd thicket]

my OS is smart

[wheat plume]

mac

[wheat plume]

aha

[shrewd thicket]

wait

holdon

nice alignment

@wheat plumewtf

can we enhance this

[wheat plume]

huh?

[wheat plume]

xd

[shrewd thicket]

ban for sus

[wheat plume]

yes

its a real character

and I can copy it at any time I like xd

[cursive summit]

https://videocardz.com/newz/msi-overclocker-teases-amd-ryzen-7000-cpu-running-ddr5-6400-cl32-memory

[cursive summit]

https://www.gsmarena.com/logitech_g_and_tencent_are_building_a_cloud_gaming_handheld_set_to_release_later_this_year-news-55269.php

Who asked for this?

[astral haven]

Buzzword spam execs

[junior ore]

Exactly that

[shrewd thicket]

Tencent, more like we're collecting all ur data on CCP owned servers for tencent's per KB

[empty wren]

Gotta love it when you move a motor that has nothing to do with two others and the closet one has an exploded capacitor while the furthest one has burned chip. Thanks China.

[astral haven]

You chose to buy it

[empty wren]

I mean not really any other good options, and could have just been a dud. Other people with the same board have it running well.

[stone topaz]

This seems like the right chat but like what’s the worst u can do to someone when you have there number

[ashen spindle]

not going to answer that becuase you could fuck over whoever gets the number after that person decided they need a new one

[stone topaz]

So now what do I do when this one person is threatening to kill me but has my number

And who can I find to screw him over 😂

What should I do abt that

Btw we both in our early years of HS

I have ss of him saying ima die and shit

[chrome estuary]

Inform the police would be one option

Block the number is another

[stone topaz]

He goes to my wchool

School

[chrome estuary]

And? Tell him to go to hell and ignore his sorry ass

[stone topaz]

And we’re talking he starts calling me ass and shit and so I go on and bring up his friend group leaving him

[reef patrol]

Record it, keep text messages, report it to the school.

[stone topaz]

I got the messages

[reef patrol]

And of course report it to the police to have it on record.

[stone topaz]

Lmk if this is valid

Not in order

[ashen spindle]

if its more than just petty HS drama go see police and/or someone from the school

"this guy wants to kill me what phone pranks should I do on him"

[stone topaz]

He threatening to kill me so like

[ashen spindle]

then go to the police

idk the dude so I dont know if he means it or not

[chrome estuary]

Okay so back on topic for the channel. I'm thinking of getting my DDR5 ram in advance of Ryzen AM5. I'm looking at Corsair Dominator Platinum or Vengeance but they look the same except one doesn't have RGB and it's like 60$ cheaper

Latency seems to be the same, speed is the same, so I'm not sure what the difference is

[ashen spindle]

I wouldn't get it early

[chrome estuary]

Is ram really gonna change all that much in 2 or 3 months?

[stone topaz]

LMFAOOOO

[ashen spindle]

we dont know what zen4 needs, if its speeds like before to keep IF clock high or lower latency is better etc.

[chrome estuary]

Ah fair.

[ashen spindle]

and yes I do think prices still go down as I'm sure some might wait to release the latest kit with the cpus when they come out

[chrome estuary]

I expected prices to raise when the new CPUs came out tbh

[ashen spindle]

cant say for certain either way but I doubt it

[wheat plume]

Valve counted to 3

TWICE!

[cursive summit]

Ok now call us when Episode 3 releases

[wheat plume]

ikr

and Portal 3

[fair gull]

oh wait this is 2022

[wheat plume]

ive not played the half life 2 episodes
does the story end like there will be more or is it a definite finish?

[fair gull]

forget what u saw

also why is the ui old school steam themed

[wheat plume]

they added this new theme to plasma desktop xd

its optional, ofc

[fair gull]

why even is there a desktop

[wheat plume]

cause its a PC

and you need the desktop to setup emulators and other launchers too

[crimson wigeon]

Yeah the classic VGUI theme is pretty nice I might just copy it to my fat computer

[wheat plume]

fat computer
?

you body shaming your PC in 2022?

/s

[crimson wigeon]

Nothing wrong with thicc

[wheat plume]

ikr :')

.-. ikr

[junior ore]

Lol

@fair gull why wouldn't there be a desktop?

[fair gull]

does a portable gaming oriented platform need a desktop if steam already has big picture?

its like the switch suddenly having a desktop

just dont see a point in it

[junior ore]

Thats the misconception

[wheat plume]

isnt gaming mode basically just a web browser anyway?

[junior ore]

The switch is a closed environment computer, a micro-computer/console.
It does one thing.

The Deck is a full computer, an open environment.

Its shape doesn't mean anything in that context

Also its not Big Picture Mode, its different

And it isnt a replacement for a desktop environment

[cursive summit]

https://videocardz.com/newz/amd-to-announce-ryzen-7000-on-august-29th-launching-september-15th

That's not as important as Radeon GPUs

[junior ore]

In august? Interesting

[cursive summit]

Hopefully we see an announcement for the cards too

[fair gull]

idk i see the deck more like a laptop that got an amputation and got some cobtrols grafted on

[junior ore]

Aye, it is a laptop. That doesn't make it less a computer even if it has controls built into it.
Also there are others that have integrated controllers far far worse lol

Anyways the Steam Deck is a UMPC and thats a computer format that has been around for over 15 years

[ashen spindle]

with less IO than a mac

[junior ore]

Course, UMPC failed in the consumer market many years ago for various reasons lol

By what, one port?

Not much bragging in that regard

No wait

Stram Deck has an audio port

[wheat plume]

sd card slot
usb C port
headphone jack

[junior ore]

Yeah, three total

[wheat plume]

more ports than a macbook Air from 2019

[junior ore]

Lmao

@ashen spindle so its less >XD

[ashen spindle]

didnt know we are in the year 2019

and pretty sure the usbc port is not thunderbolt

[junior ore]

You knly said amount and didnt specify which macbook.
Also i dont know what the this years ones have. They keep making them constantly i cant keep up

Also it doesn't need thunderbolt, though i do plug a thunderbolt docking station it which works fine.

[stark bobcat]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ctbTTRoqZsM

At least Intel GPUs will have 1 desirable feature

[shadow minnow]

That’s pretty horrible then ngl

[stark bobcat]

It's a good one to have tho

[ashen spindle]

too bad amd and nvidia will also have av1 so they have one nice feature maybe in time if they do release it at some point

[shadow minnow]

Like headphone jack nice but it’s just that
Sd card reader can also just read sd cards. And then only one usb c port that’s not even high bandwidth not so good

[stark bobcat]

Not many people care

Hardly anyone will hook up a gpu to a 4 core cpu

It's a shame but not that big of a deal especially at the pricepoint

[ashen spindle]

oh yeah its no issue because the main point of the deck is still to be a portable game devise

and while you can use it as a full on pc its just not made for that clearly

[empty wren]

10gbps is alot, oculus quest 2 has 5gbps and they got a lot out of it

[junior ore]

Don't know how you can say ita not made for that when it is

Its made to be both and it does both

But yeah if it was a thunderbolt it'd be an upgrade

Though that might drive up costs for licensing i think

[ashen spindle]

it's not the primary use case, its not made for that

im not saying you cant use it for it

[shadow minnow]

Still even for 1440p120 you would want 20

Not counting possibly connecting mouse, kb and more

[empty wren]

I feel like at that point just buy a laptop¯_(ツ)_/¯

[ashen spindle]

what are you on about needing 20gbps for a usecase the deck is never going to serve

[junior ore]

I hook up mouse and keyboard to my deck

[shadow minnow]

Well you may want to use it for media consumption at higher resolution

[junior ore]

And a monitor

Fine as it is for casual media consumption. Obviously not meant for watching 4k movies kn

[ashen spindle]

look I'm trying to say that you're already needing dongles or adapters to have mouse and keyboard attached so thats clearly not a primary desing goal, not that 4k60 videos that barely exist are slightly over the bandwith

[junior ore]

Right i get it, its primarily a portable gaming platform. But its also dandy for a laptop replacement. I just plug it to my work docking station and it saves up space to boot.

[ashen spindle]

if you like torturing your eyes by working on the tiny screen sure, otherwise I just see it same as tony that it can do it just not really make much sense, if you use it to power a a monitor, mouse/kb might as well just have a laptop that can be used easier when travelling

only reason I could think of would be budget limitations and them im still there are better options

[stark bobcat]

I mean I can see a usecase for that.
I basically have 2 PC's in different places if the steamdeck came out earlier I could have replaced the one I use less with just docking the deck

Especially since I mostly play easier to run games

It's a niche situation but it does occur

[ashen spindle]

so it works but clearly not made specifically for these rare cases

[stark bobcat]

Yeah I agree it's not its primary function

[junior ore]

Wasn't aware you had eye issues.

[stark bobcat]

I do but I still think the steam deck screen is ok

[junior ore]

No i meant quinn, they mention their eyes hurt if they look at something thats... bigger than a phone screen

[pale sigil]

deck screen iz neat

using it as i type

[misty saffron]

explains why it took you so long

[stark bobcat]

Deck does have lower ppi than the majority of phones

[pale sigil]

well ye typing on the deck ait super weasy

[ashen spindle]

cba having to constantly restate what I actually write because people cant read so I'm just gonna ignore the rest of the topic

[junior ore]

It was a point i was making : its not torture to look at the decks screen

[stark bobcat]

I like using the trackpad thingys

They are neat

[junior ore]

And its bigger than the normal phone

[ashen spindle]

again not what I said and I'm done

[junior ore]

You literally said it was torture working on the tiny screen yet you don't even own one to know that.

[pale sigil]

imean he aint wrong

[junior ore]

Would be bad if you used the screen for spreadsheet or sumthin

[ashen spindle]

nice implication of you somehow knowing more about what I own than I do but ok

[junior ore]

You never mentioned it before and always advocate against the deck and keep calling it a waste so its a good bet you wouldnt spend 400 bucks to get one.

[ashen spindle]

so me saying I wont buy one because I have issues xyz that apply to ME and not others is advocating against it suddenly got it, and didn't know the deck is the only device in the world with a screen of that size

[pale sigil]

still eadier than using memebrane

easier

[stark bobcat]

XD

Ngl membrane keyboard still better than typing on the deck

Would choose membrane any day of the week

[junior ore]

Yeah it was an assumption quinn, im not denying it. I said it was guess work.

[pale sigil]

https://tenor.com/view/wrong-drumpf-trump-stupid-gif-6220235

[junior ore]

Would rather type with the deck

[pale sigil]

i can only use them old dell ones

[junior ore]

Honestly would type with the deck rather than this phone i am using i hate touch typing

[stark bobcat]

Niz switch count as membrane right?

[junior ore]

Thats what it be

Well conventional keyboard is membrane styled rubber domed.

[stark bobcat]

Or topre

[junior ore]

And thats okay.

It just has its own feel, pros and cons. Like everything.

[stark bobcat]

I'm 100% sure I'd type faster with less mistakes on a membrane board than using the deck

[junior ore]

You could order sample switches

True but you can find cheapo mechnical keyboard of dubious quality at the least, as an option

Or find one used

[stark bobcat]

There are like keyboard meetups or sum shit

[junior ore]

They come with the same switches honestly

[stark bobcat]

AliExpress has some real deals on mech boards last time I checked

[junior ore]

Btw does your country have computer or tech stores like Best Buy?

[empty wren]

Lol best buy has gaming keyboards

[stark bobcat]

Mx poo

Yeah customs are expensive

[junior ore]

@digital cliff best buy will have display keyboard you can type and interact with all day, and different types to try out.

Also yes they have Blue Switches

Which is what you want if you want tactile

That or razors purple which is like blue

It sounds loke you don't like linear switches

Which is odd cause this discord is all about an analog keyboard lol

But yes for tactile you want blue switches

Or old keyboard like Springbucks

They still make them btw https://www.pckeyboard.com/page/SFNT

And i have one right here at work too <3

[empty wren]

I think Fleimi was looking at not generic overused switches. Anything at the store is basically a clone that adds nothing of notable value.

[junior ore]

Is it cursed to combine these?

[stark bobcat]

ye

[junior ore]

It is a 2012 production one though lol

[junior ore]

@digital cliff i know is all good, im not meaning to sound like im bashing ya and such, sorry if it comes that way

Although the thing is MX Blue IS the tactile switch

Its clicky but you feel every bump and groove when you press it

There isnt kuch other options

Except for weird proprietary switches

What kind of switch are you wanting then?

There might be one but issue is tactile makss sound

Yeah but if it has tactile its gonna click

I wanted you to mention browns yeah

You feel those but no click

Ah

Well, theres always the switches Razer makes

Or

Old keyboards like Alp switched

Or the "Invaders" switches

I love my hall effect ones from wooting <3

Well if you find new or fancy tactile based switches, let me know. I love blues and tactile switches.

@ashen spindle BTW I am realizing I'm being rather an ass towards you by being extra argumentative lately, for reason that I don't know why. So I'm sorry that.

I'mma try to be more self-aware about it.

[ashen spindle]

all good, at most I just get annoyed and stop the conversation so no big deal

[junior ore]

I think perhaps I try to be too literal or defensive or unable to stop the conversation. or some mix.

oh most def.

I've seen the worst of the combination of SS13 and Reddit community.

even when some nazies came in to try to muck things up some years ago in that community.

[stark bobcat]

guess the cpu

[reef patrol]

6700XT?

[shadow minnow]

6700XD

[stark bobcat]

Cpu

Not gpu

[shadow minnow]

11400

Or well I know that’s wrong

But nothing to stop me from saying that

It’s probably amd

[stark bobcat]

About 11 years older than that

It's not amd

[cursive summit]

4400 is very low

[crimson wigeon]

2600k

[shadow minnow]

o.o I was thinking about like 3800

Oh nvm I was looking at overall score lol

Idk names of old CPUs tbh

[stark bobcat]

2600k would score lower

[cursive summit]

I found that i7-3770K scores about 4.1k

So something 3770K level but maybe a bit higher

[stark bobcat]

Xeon W3680

[cursive summit]

Yeah nobody would have guessed

[reef patrol]

https://tenor.com/view/ew-american-vandal-american-vandal-ew-gif-25525895

[cursive summit]

My next guess would have been

https://benchmarks.ul.com/hardware/cpu/Intel+Core+i7-4790K+Processor+review

Matches the CPU score

[stark bobcat]

Explain

[cursive summit]

It's Xeon

It's ew

[reef patrol]

👆

[stark bobcat]

Why

[cursive summit]

Cause it's ew

[stark bobcat]

Old xeons are pog

[astral haven]

Old xeons are ultra pog

[stark bobcat]

This man knows

[cursive summit]

Anyways I remember somebody a few years back was offering me a rig with 4790K and I think a 1080

Glad I didn't buy it

Was on the more expensive side

Especially nowadays when CPUs are just pretty good

[astral haven]

I run a ddr3 system with 18 cores in 1 cpu

[stark bobcat]

Yeah this is my second pc I love fucking around with old hardware

My main system is ryzen but this still runs pretty well considering the cpu is 12 years old

[cursive summit]

The only Intel rig I would ever build would be with the OG i9-990X

Pair it with something like an HD5770 and call it a retro rig

[stark bobcat]

This is x58

[cursive summit]

This is what

[stark bobcat]

Chipset x58 first gen core series

[ashen spindle]

old xeons are core series cpus but cheaper lol

[stark bobcat]

Indeed they are

[ashen spindle]

so very much pog

[cursive summit]

LGA1366 is kinda cute though

[stark bobcat]

775 sticker mod goes

[junior ore]

xeons are indeed spiffy

no reason to see them as ew.

[cursive summit]

They are just naturally ew

[junior ore]

I got about... uuuhh....11 xeon machines

[cursive summit]

Disgusting stuff can have a golden heart

But it's still puke

[junior ore]

I need ot get rid of my server machines honestly.

[ashen spindle]

its literally the same silicon as the desktop parts with maybe some other fuses and markings to sell it as xeon instead

or were rather, now they stopped people from buying them to get top end cpus cheaper lol

[wheat plume]

MagSafe

[cursive summit]

Isn't magsafe just a fancy term for a magnetic clip?

[chrome estuary]

Yes.

[stark bobcat]

everyone who uses wireless charging is literally the devil

[cursive summit]

Doesn't 30% "less efficient way" talk about Lightning cable?

Or the wireless charging thing?

[wheat plume]

wired vs wireless

cause it makes a lot of heat

[cursive summit]

Idk for whatever reason wireless is a thing

[wheat plume]

30-40% of the energy used to wirelessly charge a device is lost from heat generation

[cursive summit]

No need to pay for USB licenses so you can just take away the charging port

Boom, innovation

[shadow minnow]

It’s optional

[cursive summit]

Fuck your 3.5mm jack as well

[shadow minnow]

Fully in fact

[cursive summit]

Not for long

[stark bobcat]

what r u talking about rn?

[shadow minnow]

MagSafe

[cursive summit]

It's Bexin, always defending Apple

"Why are you complaining about optional features"

Even if optional features suck

[wheat plume]

yeh but once Apple make that port-less iPhone
EVERYONE WILL FOLLOW

bye bye wired charging forever

[shadow minnow]

Well I kinda want that to happen

[cursive summit]

Wireless charging only will happen within 3 years from now

I'm literally sure of it

Apple 14 or 15 will tout "innovation" and "no holes" in your phone

Fully waterproof

[wheat plume]

id like to have a wireless charger in my car to trickle charge my phone while using it to play music

[stark bobcat]

I hate you

[cursive summit]

I hate these companies

They scream innovation then go backwards to ruin technology

Fuck wireless

[wheat plume]

^

^

[cursive summit]

GIVE ME MY HEADPHONE JACK BACK

[wheat plume]

^^

[cursive summit]

WIRELESS SOUND SUCKS

[stark bobcat]

headphone jack isn't that big of a deal since integrated dacs suck

[cursive summit]

Ugh

[stark bobcat]

I still have one tho so suck it

[cursive summit]

I'll just buy either budget phones or Sony high end from now on

My Poco has one

But I hate the trend of not including headphone jacks

[wheat plume]

fuck bt earbuds

[stark bobcat]

dongle

[wheat plume]

expensive
sound worse than wired
need to charge them

dongles suck too

[stark bobcat]

shame u cant charge while using dongle tho

[wheat plume]

see

[stark bobcat]

dongles have good sound quality

[wheat plume]

problem

[cursive summit]

I always used to just pop my over ear headphones into my 3.5mm jack and go on a walk

Now I have to have this massive brick of a dongle to daisy chain it to do the same

Want to listen while charging? Buy another dongle

This is cancer

[stark bobcat]

u could also buy a DAP but who does that

[wheat plume]

I can charge my phone while using wired earphones <3

cause it has headphone jack

[cursive summit]

Is this why they discontinued the iPod Touch

And iPods in general

[wheat plume]

huh?

[cursive summit]

Just goodbye wired connections

Embrace wireless

[wheat plume]

yes

pretty much

[cursive summit]

Cause there literally is no point of buying an iPod anymore since your phone does the same

[wheat plume]

yeah :/

[stark bobcat]

wireless audio is evil

[wheat plume]

yes

[cursive summit]

I have pretty high end wireless earbuds

And man I hate them

No sound stage

No clarity

[astral haven]

That's your problem

Earbuds

[cursive summit]

It's the market's problem

[astral haven]

No it isnt

[wheat plume]

WHY WONT IT LET ME USE MOBILE DATA TO DOWNLOAD THE LANGUAGE PACK FOR CALL SCREENING?? DAMN IT GOOGLE

[astral haven]

You just are comparing different devices

[cursive summit]

I'll just get another closed back set of cans and use that instead

[wheat plume]

I cant use call screening cause I cant download it .-. it lets me do anything else over data if I wanna but not this??!!

[ashen spindle]

you can only download it via wireless earbuds

[astral haven]

Adapters are your friend
Better sound quality and power than any phones built in dacamp

[cursive summit]

I also heard of this new Apple DLC where you can only call people if you also buy Apple Watch with your iPhone

[stark bobcat]

tbh I don't mind the galaxy buds pro they are okay enough to go grocery shopping with

[cursive summit]

Otherwise you can't call

[stark bobcat]

also water resistance is nice if u go skiing and the like

[wheat plume]

sounds like what Apple would do, tbh .-.

[cursive summit]

I mind wireless audio just cause the sound sucks

[wheat plume]

^

[cursive summit]

Like going from my hi-fi station to using these tiny in-ears is just sad

[stark bobcat]

sometimes it's good enough just to have subpar sound

[junior ore]

that reminds me I need to actually finish modding up the IPOD I have.

[wheat plume]

Going from my 24 euro wired earphones to my 80 euro wireless ones sucks

[cursive summit]

I'll be sniping a pair of NDH20s tomorrow probably

[astral haven]

Good luck fitting and powering your hifi fully within your ears

[cursive summit]

100$

[astral haven]

Get an adapter fam

[junior ore]

its all in what suits your needs

[cursive summit]

Honestly I can't decide between NDH-20 for 100$ second hand or Shure SRH840 new

[astral haven]

The ndh20 are absolutely worth 400

How on earth are you gonna get them working for 100??

[cursive summit]

Second hand

I won't disclose my sources

[wheat plume]

Apple, unlike most companies, are pretty good at keeping your data private

👀 you sure about that?

[cursive summit]

Very private

To the point they give you in to police if you do something naughty

There goes your privacy, terrorist

[wheat plume]

ikr!

so secure

The Pixel Titan 2 chip is very impressive

[shadow minnow]

Actually yes

[wheat plume]

Actually no.... Have you seen the data collection macOS does??????

[stark bobcat]

I don't think it's about the data they collect and more about who they provide it too

which

who knows

[cursive summit]

You literally can't claim Apple has good data privacy if THEY LITERALLY LOOK AT WHAT YOU DO

[reef patrol]

Apple is big enough to use all of that data themselves. They don't need to sell it.

[shadow minnow]

But they don’t use it to provide me ads at least

Especially not on Lock Screen

[empty wren]

Google do the same

[astral haven]

Name a non Chinese cell brand that does that

[reef patrol]

Heck no - They sell everything

[astral haven]

Google at least tells you exactly what they do (which yes is sell everything)

[empty wren]

They do not sell your data they sell tokens to target people

[wheat plume]

Yes
Ad id

[astral haven]

And android has no provision in it for keeping your phone awake when you tell it to shut down specifically to track you and prevent the phone from being stored for extended periods of time without killing the battery

[wheat plume]

Huh?

[ashen spindle]

but anonymized data means its totally fine!

[astral haven]

https://www.theverge.com/22697218/iphone-apple-ios-15-find-my-how-to

I simply cannot believe apple managed to spin it as a positive

[empty wren]

Lol

[shadow minnow]

It’s literally optional lol

And pretty useful too

[reef patrol]

I mean google pesters me about embalming location as well. So ...eh.

Might as well use an NSA requirement yourself and lie to customers about it being off

[shadow minnow]

Samsung used to do it

[astral haven]

Nope

Samsung sold hardware to carriers who did it

[astral haven]

"Optional"
On by default, not explained, has already caused a few bricked phones

And
How do you know it's optional?

[ashen spindle]

surely apple would never use a hidden feature without a user knowing, they would never do that

[astral haven]

Just because apple disabled showing you the data doesn't mean they don't have it lmao

[junior ore]

by definition, it's optional if there is user choice, regardless of the default setting of on/off.

[astral haven]

Yes but prove the user choice does anything...

[junior ore]

prove it doesn't

[astral haven]

Imo placebo buttons are worse than choice

[junior ore]

it's not a choice if it doesn't do anything.

I'm only refering to actual choices.

If you're going to claim to it doesn't do anything, feel free to show it.

[astral haven]

It's unprovable considering it's neither open source or 3rd party audited
Also asking to prove the negative is a fallacy

[junior ore]

No it's provable, just not without certain things.

[astral haven]

How

[junior ore]

also no you are shifting the burden of proof here. you are the one suggesting it's a button that doesn't do anything.

i'm not saying ti does or doesn't.

[astral haven]

How can you prove apple can't turn it on without your knowledge

[junior ore]

there's code involved and code can be examined. just because you don't have the proper equipment/software to do it doesn't mean it doesn't exist nor doesn't mean it can't be looked at in the future.

[astral haven]

Apple scanned user files without informing the user for years

[junior ore]

yes, yes they do.

[astral haven]

If it's not open source, it's not provable

[junior ore]

that's not what that means.

[astral haven]

As long as it's not auditable it's not auditable

[junior ore]

Open Source means we don't have easy access to it.

but it's still code, its still software.

[astral haven]

That's the opposite of what that means

[junior ore]

it can be looked at.

[astral haven]

No it's not

[junior ore]

yes it is. it's fuckign software.

[astral haven]

You specifically cant

Von
You actually can't be serious

[ashen spindle]

you can look at it yes, you cant decompile it and see what it does in a reasonable short time

[junior ore]

it's literally possible for it to be leaked or some shit

thank you quin

[ashen spindle]

and if you cant read assemly like neo that doesnt do shit

[astral haven]

Except that's not it either quin

[junior ore]

I'm saying it's possible.

[astral haven]

It's not written in assembly

It doesn't run that

It's fully encrypted

You can't decompile it

[ashen spindle]

machinecode then, fair enough

[astral haven]

Not either

[junior ore]

yeah and how do you think apple adds code?

through their own tolls and software 🙂

which is what I mentioned

[astral haven]

Via the virtual machine

[junior ore]

if you had the same, you can get in too

and thus example and do things just as well.

[astral haven]

No

[junior ore]

yes

[astral haven]

That's specifically not how that works

[junior ore]

yes it is.

[astral haven]

It's designed to be undecompileable

[junior ore]

If you literally had the devloper kit fo the fucking operating system and it's source code : you will know what the fuck is in the operating system.

dude I don't know what drugs youa re on.

[astral haven]

No you won't actually

[ashen spindle]

are we still on about a person being able to check it or are we talking about apple themselves knowing what they add

because I think this is going off rails

[junior ore]

Apple is not some super high genuine technomancer software engineers either like you are painting them

[astral haven]

You obviously don't understand how these are distributed

[junior ore]

Dude just can't back up his claim some button is a fake button but wants me to prove it's a real button that does something so now we are on about this or sumthin 👌

[ashen spindle]

no I dont think thats what he's saying

[shadow minnow]

It kinda was though

[junior ore]

it was indeed.

And he shifted with WhatAboutIsm going about how apple scammed people before.

I didn't make a claim about any button.

I simple said, by definition, it's a user's choice regardless of it's default position. But that requires it to actually be a choice, as in, a non-fake button.

If it was fake then it's not a choice.

[astral haven]

And the point is that is conjecture

The setting is there, and has already turned itself on before
What makes you think that wouldn't happen again but obfuscated

[junior ore]

automatic changing of it is different. I thought it was talking of a default position.

[astral haven]

And even if you have the device and the code you can't prove it's the code running on the device without breaking I think it's rsa?

[junior ore]

so again : is it default position, automatic changing, or fake button?

[astral haven]

No way to know

[junior ore]

There is a way to know.

[astral haven]

Nope

[junior ore]

Yes.

[astral haven]

You don't understand at all

[junior ore]

You don't understand at all.

See that gets you no where?

[astral haven]

The phone software is encrypted

[ashen spindle]

its about apple having the potential option to do something without the user doing it and you cant really know that unless you sit at apple when its made

[astral haven]

Compile the code twice and you will get different binary blobs

[junior ore]

and you have this belief that apple can't make changes updates or look at the code. the people that made it. the people that decrypt it. the people that made the developers tools.

[astral haven]

It isn't possible to prove what code is running on a phone

[junior ore]

Yes it is.

I just told you how.

[astral haven]

No
It's encrypted, and will not produce the same blob if you compile it twice

[ashen spindle]

this is what I meant, apple being able to know what code they add isn't really the same as being able to check yourself if it does something or not

[astral haven]

Even if you have the code and the phone, the only way to prove what code it's running is to reflash the phone yourself

[junior ore]

see now it's just pure denialism or concpiracy theory here. That if you had the same tools and information and decryption keys..... Denialism.

[astral haven]

That's not how that works 🤷

[junior ore]

My point being is if you had the same tools and knowledge as the developers.

[crisp magnet]

Cool conversation

[junior ore]

you would know whats in there.

[ashen spindle]

no you wouldn't

[junior ore]

yes the fuck you would.

you would have access to it.

[reef patrol]

👀

[astral haven]

Encryption is intentionally directional...

[ashen spindle]

^

[crisp magnet]

I actually work at apple

[ashen spindle]

encryption is not always bidirectional

[junior ore]

and you can decrypt it....

[ashen spindle]

how

[junior ore]

or, well yeah

[astral haven]

[citation needed]

[junior ore]

it depends on the encryption

okay so hold on

you know they

[astral haven]

😱 wow I'm so shocked

[junior ore]

make and design the code

BEFORE encrypting it, right?

[astral haven]

Ok
Prove that's what's on the phone now

[junior ore]

I don't have Apple's tools 😛

[ashen spindle]

then how would you prove it if you had apples tools

[crisp magnet]

You would use a floater device for dev testing

[astral haven]

Does apple have a tool for extracting nand data from a phone and decompiling it?

[junior ore]

it makes zero sense and no way it would work to auto-encrypt a operating system WHILE PROGRAMMING IT

whiel DEVELOPING IT

[crisp magnet]

Not a tool, devices specially made for dev testing

[astral haven]

Now is there a chain of trust that doesn't rely on network data from those dev devices to the client devices?

[junior ore]

When making any software, especially ones you intend to encrypt... you're going t complete it first before encrypting it. Most of the secure ones don't do take-backs.

[astral haven]

Could I read off a checksum somewhere that proves my device is running the exact same software?

[crisp magnet]

The is a hardware difference between developer devices and consumer phones if that’s what you’re asking

[junior ore]

If you have the master source you have the ultimate source. You would know if a button was fake or not.

[astral haven]

Yep
So if the NSA had access to those same tools they could do the exact same thing
The NSA is known for intercepting data, what would prevent them from mitming the software update for your phone and pushing an update that changes the actions of that button?

[crisp magnet]

You are required to also be in a trusted network as well

[ashen spindle]

the point is about having a way to proof the source you are looking at is the one that is on the phone

[crisp magnet]

But I still don’t get the argument

[junior ore]

... your point being?

[shadow minnow]

Carmobean thinks apple can find your turned of phone phone even after you turn of phone findeable after it’s turned off

[wheat plume]

it is

[junior ore]

phones, even iphones, can have update-malware injected into them and such. this is possible.

[wheat plume]

thats what Find My does

[crisp magnet]

Not that I know of?

Once find my is off and any third part apps with location tracking is disabled you can’t track an iPhone

[astral haven]

The NSA is known for having placed blacboxes at many strategic places on the internet and reading and overwriting lots of data
How would you prove a device hasn't been compromised to change it's behavior even assuming there isn't an exploit (which there are many)

[misty saffron]

you don’t

[crisp magnet]

Such an abstract question though

[misty saffron]

but it’s borderline schizo shit

[junior ore]

ah, that's different.

[crisp magnet]

You can you prove they are? Your question makes no sense. I for one as a regular person there cannot track you nor gather any information that is not already readily accessible

[astral haven]

It's a very specific question
If I download some open source software I can run sha on it and look at the value
If the value of my friends software or the value the original software has is different, I can be suspicious

[junior ore]

you'd have t run some heavy duty comparison software. But knowing when a device is security compromised is super tricky.

[crisp magnet]

Open source software on your iPhone?

[astral haven]

It's called sha
I have it in the right click menu on my pc

[junior ore]

sha?

[misty saffron]

hashing

[astral haven]

That's the problem
The only open source software on the iPhone are websites

[astral haven]

Well
Pwas

[crisp magnet]

Going on a website is not running software on your device?

[misty saffron]

trust me replacing files you download is the worst way to infect your shit

[astral haven]

Yea correction pwas

[crisp magnet]

You still aren’t running open sourced software on your device

[misty saffron]

exploits developed by government agencies are zero click

[junior ore]

ah, right SHA or MD5 and such. I'm never remember all the terms >.>

[astral haven]

Yea I'm aware that pegasus is alooooooooot easier
But being unable to audit is still a problem

[misty saffron]

good luck trying to find what exactly is wrong with your device

[crisp magnet]

Plug it in and restore your phone

[astral haven]

I can in fact run software that has visible source
And a pwa does get locally downloaded so it can be used offline

[astral haven]

Restore from what?

[misty saffron]

restore firmware

[crisp magnet]

Are you talking about installing profiles?

To iTunes

Plug ur phone in download iTunes and restore your phone

[astral haven]

All you can restore from is files downloaded on the internet that are encrypted

[misty saffron]

💀

[crisp magnet]

You don’t download a restore

[misty saffron]

restore file attack

[crisp magnet]

Yourself

[astral haven]

You can restore offline using a file if you want
But that file has to be downloaded from apple
If you restore online you are back to square 1

[crisp magnet]

Square 1 of what?

[misty saffron]

do you seriously think they would go through such trouble lol

[astral haven]

Root of trust issues

[junior ore]

honestly I wish i could fix my ipad. it refuses to update and I don't think itunes wants to communicate with it >.<

[crisp magnet]

that you’re being tracked?

[misty saffron]

possible in theory doesn’t mean it’s a practical attack

[junior ore]

eh, I don't care fi the NSA tracks me. like. it doesn't mean or do anything.

[crisp magnet]

I’m sure if someone who is sophisticated enough to breach iOS

[junior ore]

doesn't restrict my freedom

[crisp magnet]

The phone is the least of your concerns

[astral haven]

I restore apple devices from offline files multiple times a week
It's for work, we don't want to slaughter our internet by downloading a new copy of iOS for every device that we need to prepare for the users

[crisp magnet]

If you think that’ll be the main outlet 😂

[misty saffron]

not sure how that’s related…

[astral haven]

Sure
But the iPhone can't just be off to prove it's not being tracked

[crisp magnet]

Remove the battery then

[astral haven]

You actually need to unplug the battery...
Which oh hey nice requires tons of tools

[misty saffron]

you can be afraid of tracking all you want

just remember there are much easier ways to track you

[astral haven]

Sure

[misty saffron]

that won’t involve having apple sign your custom firmware and allow for MITM attacks lol

[junior ore]

the bad choice was getting an iphone if you wanted t do any of that.

[crisp magnet]

I can basically guarantee no one is tracking you though a back door in iOS

But to is their own

[misty saffron]

you’re extremely close to schizoposting

[astral haven]

But I've gotta understand the threat vectors for my job
We use iOS fully updated with tracking enabled
But the threats need to all be quantified

[crisp magnet]

I’d be more concerned if the back door mental issues going on in the head

We provide devices to government agencies far more important than what you don

And it’s never been an issue

[misty saffron]

it’s great that you’re passionate about it

just please have the practicality of the attacks in mind

[astral haven]

Yes
That's why we are using iPhones at the agency

But you have to be aware of all the vectors

[crisp magnet]

We don’t make special software for governments who use iPhones for their jobs. Everyone is on an equal plane

If governments aren’t getting attacked

You won’t

[astral haven]

That's not entirely true

[crisp magnet]

Not through iOS

I’m positive it’s true

There is no specialized iOS build for companies or governments

[astral haven]

iOS allows for mdm
We use a ton of features of mdm that integrate with our stack

[junior ore]

BTW you sound like you know a thing or two about apple device trouble shooting, mind I poke your brain of solving an issue?

[astral haven]

We just wipe it if it's acting up lol

I really don't actually know much about troubleshooting them

[junior ore]

No I mean towards Virks*

I really don't want to wipe my device.

[astral haven]

Unless it's related to the wipe process

[crisp magnet]

What’s up with it

[crisp magnet]

Third party applications still

[junior ore]

It's an Ipad Pro thats still in IOS 14, but it refuses to update to newer versions.

[crisp magnet]

What’s the error when you update or try?

[astral haven]

Which can be installed via a qr code and 30 minutes unless it's already enrolled in a different mdm

[junior ore]

I can't remember the exact error message, it was very generic. internet works on it.

it's not impossible some years ago I did somethign stupid to manually block updates?

I think I had a mindset to force it to not update but I can't remember

[crisp magnet]

I would go to storage, see if the update is installed. If it is just remove it and retry.
Or put it into DFU(volume up, volume down… hold power) and plug it in to iTunes and update through there

[misty saffron]

you can disable OTAs while jailbroken yes

[crisp magnet]

Make sure you don’t have any custom profiles

Turn off your vpn

[misty saffron]

also that key combination is different if you have a home button no?

[crisp magnet]

Yeah

[misty saffron]

also that’s a normal reboot combination

[crisp magnet]

It would be power + home button

If you hold it while it’s plugged in. It’ll go into dfu

Instead of rebooting

[misty saffron]

https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT201263

[astral haven]

8 and new SEs don't use the home button

[junior ore]

So Volume buttons and power button?

[misty saffron]

physical home button i mean

[crisp magnet]

Press Volume up then down

Then hold power

[junior ore]

ah shit maybe I was dumb and did this 👀

there's no home button. again : iPad Pro.

[misty saffron]

then reenable from the jailbreak app if you can

[junior ore]

whats DFU exactly?

yeah I don't know if I have said jail broken app anymore.

[crisp magnet]

Recover mode

Device firmware update

[junior ore]

ah

that going to delete my stuff?

[crisp magnet]

Aka done fucked up mode

Yes

Well no

[junior ore]

damn

[crisp magnet]

Don’t restore

Just update

When you plug it in

If you click restore it’ll wipe it. If you just click update you’ll be fine

[junior ore]

okay so DFU mode, then plug it in and Update option, not recover option

[crisp magnet]

Correct

You can only get into dfu while the device is plugged in btw

[junior ore]

there a special type of cable? Cause I have a history of Itunes simple not registering anything was plugged in.

okay so plug in and THEN DFU mode

[crisp magnet]

Nope once you’re in dfu it will recognize it

Yeah

[junior ore]

okay. though I still need to get itunes to actually recognize that the ipad is plugged in.

[crisp magnet]

It will get recognized

When it’s in DFU

unless your cable has damaged pins

[astral haven]

If it's a Mac it'll even automatically open itunes for you

Oh actually issue I ran into on Friday, our 2012 Mac mini refused to update a 2022 se
Our M1 mini running the same version of configurator worked fine...
Just rather confused?

[crisp magnet]

Error code?

[junior ore]

only mac I own Iis 20 years old.

[astral haven]

None

"an update is required"
And that's it

[crisp magnet]

When you plug it in while it’s in dfu

And you press update

There will be an error code given from finder if it doesn’t successfully go through

[misty saffron]

also, you can’t go into dfu with a usb-c to usb-c cable

you need usb-a

ask me how i know

[crisp magnet]

You can

From what I know

[misty saffron]

no

[crisp magnet]

iPad pros are only usb c

[misty saffron]

yes and the other end must be usb-a

otherwise it just won’t go into dfu

[astral haven]

Wasn't pressing update, was pressing restore (we always wipe whenever it comes through)

[crisp magnet]

I’m certain it will

@misty saffron

[astral haven]

It's probably bugging the h2d direction

[misty saffron]

i don’t have my macbook anymore to show you

[crisp magnet]

I do it almost everyday

[junior ore]

@crisp magnet ITunes available on linux?

[pale sigil]

TIL a bsod could technically be a result of a cosmic ray

[empty wren]

Did you launch into space recently

[reef patrol]

(I am still pissed that this track was removed from Spotify)

[astral haven]

Wait it was?

You mean the remix or the original?

[reef patrol]

Any either

https://open.spotify.com/album/4YbaOg0Y9jpMMnevqJ95bB?si=O4Ho6zYsTg-wW3_oOl7nRw

Hardly counts cause it's like 90% not the track at all.

[astral haven]

I listened to it just a few days ago...
I cant remember the name

It definetly isn't called resurecrion