🔌│tech

[reef patrol]

Optane

https://tenor.com/view/laughing-hysterically-cracking-up-dead-laughing-hilarious-gif-16416203

[cursive summit]

Everyone laughs at it

Though, it was pretty good

I kinda liked the idea of HDD cache addons

But that should have come in like, 2008

[ashen spindle]

I feel like you are kinda missing what optane is

that is one small part of it and imo the least useful

[cursive summit]

I mean optane in general was a memory thing

From RAM to what, accelerated SSDs

[reef patrol]

It was a poor attempt at giving HDDs a last lease of life on the consumer market.

[cursive summit]

The one that stood out to me the most was the HDD accelerator

The idea was novel

But it came out like years late

[ashen spindle]

nonono that is the tiny part they made first, not the relevant part

[reef patrol]

Too bad - It's what people remember, cause it's what Intel marketed hard and eventually had to get mobo manufacturers to include for free to get rid of stock 😄

[shadow minnow]

Nope

[cursive summit]

I mean I can't get mad at them

Nowadays mass HDD storage is really cheap

[ashen spindle]

doesnt matter, most optane stuff is not consumer grade so doesnt matter what people remember

[cursive summit]

Adding fast cache to make them faster is still, to some, relevant

[ashen spindle]

thats not the reason they are shutting it down

[reef patrol]

https://tenor.com/view/doubt-press-x-la-noire-meme-x-button-gif-19259237

[cursive summit]

What are you doubting

[ashen spindle]

server products dont care what you remember about them or not

[mild dome]

What monitor do you have?

[shadow minnow]

Eve spectrum

4K 27” IPS

[ashen spindle]

rest of the light in the room, distance, brightness, content, doubt you just are watching youtube on it and get it

[mild dome]

True might be glare from another light source?

[shadow minnow]

It happens without another light source on

And distance isn’t too different from a laptop

Brightness is lower or same than usual for me

Only thing that’s different rn is my fps mostly being lower

[mild dome]

Icons and text too small maybe, or maybe you need glasses

[shadow minnow]

And the screen

[ashen spindle]

that could mean its too dark especially if you have it dark behind the screen so its harder contrast for the eyes

and yes low refresh rate doesnt help

[shadow minnow]

Well maybe it’s somehow that since the monitor is running at variable goes lower than my other devices usually do but still idk

[frozen ingot]

what cpu/ram config should I aim for

[cursive summit]

Heh

DDR4 or 5

[frozen ingot]

that is the question

[cursive summit]

So Intel or AMD basically

What workloads

Gaming or productivity

[ashen spindle]

no the first question is how urgent is it

[frozen ingot]

mostly gaming, maybe some audio work

[cursive summit]

I mean yeah I'd always suggest waiting like 3 months

[ashen spindle]

since new generation is coming soon

[cursive summit]

Raptor seems really good

[shadow minnow]

I would suggest getting some 400gbps ram

[frozen ingot]

been kinda used to going intel on every new platform

but last time I did was early 2010s

[ashen spindle]

if you can wait like 2-3 months I would say do that, both amd and intel will have new stuff then

[frozen ingot]

that would be better

if I can trust myself to sit on the money until then

[shadow minnow]

But I wonder about the fps because I don’t recall getting so much eye strain with some other game that runs way higher

[ashen spindle]

amd will have a new platform so it would be something you can then upgrade in years to come without changing ram or board

[shadow minnow]

Intel may have new platform but they do that about every generation

Okay every other

[frozen ingot]

am going for mobo/cpu+cooler/ram this time around

if am gonna wait til next gen I may as well try and fit ddr5 on that budget

[ashen spindle]

well prices are coming down so its not going to cost much more than ddr4 would

[wheat plume]

IM SO CONFUSED WTF THIS IS

????

[reef patrol]

Steam Link speakers.

[wheat plume]

i no haz steam link

[astral haven]

It's built into steam

[wheat plume]

never seen these before in my sound settings...

is it cause im sharing my library with family share?

[astral haven]

It's for in home streaming

Possibly?

[ashen spindle]

@fickle ore enjoy the legacy hardware while you can 😛

[astral haven]

Sad

[frozen ingot]

is that in a steam deck or somethin

[wheat plume]

literally my desktop

hmm, yeah, I think Deck has it built in

cause it has really good game streaming

[shadow minnow]

It’s sth with the share app, idk how is it called but I have the same on MacBook

[wheat plume]

odd

where does it play sound to LOL?

[shadow minnow]

It’s when you share to another device

So you like play on your mac a game that windows is running

So windows sends audio info to steam

Steam sends it over to the MacBook

[wheat plume]

ooh, so its a virtual output?

[astral haven]

Yes

[shadow minnow]

I think so

[frozen ingot]

looks like steams virtual audio i/o yea

[wheat plume]

how tf i open the legacy sound panel to disable these

[reef patrol]

Legacy? Why?

[wheat plume]

cause you cant do this in the modern settings

[ashen spindle]

you can

[reef patrol]

Yes you can.

[wheat plume]

??

[ashen spindle]

!

[wheat plume]

where???

[reef patrol]

In... the new sound control panel

[wheat plume]

?

[ashen spindle]

idk its like as much non-hidden as it gets

[reef patrol]

Now click one of them.

[astral haven]

Left not right click

[reef patrol]

Don't Allow

[wheat plume]

that doesnt disable, they still show up in the output choose

[reef patrol]

That DOES disable.

You're talking about hiding.

[wheat plume]

is still there

[reef patrol]

No it's not? That's the mic

[frozen ingot]

disabling them removes them as options in the list of audio devices you get clicking the speaker bottom right in the taskbar

[wheat plume]

Yeah, I clicked Dont Allow on the mic

and its still in the picker

[reef patrol]

You showed us a speaker.

[wheat plume]

yeh my bad

[frozen ingot]

I still have to bring up this old thing tho, don't know where to find the one you're using

[reef patrol]

We're on Win11

[ashen spindle]

you dont in win10, win11 idk because I havent used that

[wheat plume]

I always forget how to access this one Windows 11

its really hard to find

[frozen ingot]

tbh win10 is a fuckin mess of old and new settings pages and options

[astral haven]

You search sounds in the start menu and it pops right up

[shadow minnow]

It’s weird ngl

[frozen ingot]

tho am sorta used to navigating that mess by this point

[shadow minnow]

Most things have new UI yet some still look so old

[astral haven]

Change system sounds

[wheat plume]

oh

[astral haven]

But it is in the new options now

[frozen ingot]

yeah its like they've put shiny new surface buttons and menus on top of the stuff that's been carried over since like windows xp

[astral haven]

Nah it is pretty different now

[frozen ingot]

seems like they've overhauled the older bits as well with 11

[wheat plume]

I despite the right click menus in 11

the ones from windows 10 are still there if you click "Show More Options" and they all have this really thin ass blue highlight

the 11 menus are not the worst though

just lacking options

[astral haven]

Yea it has all the useful stuff accessible in one click and has the old menu available with another click

[wheat plume]

Ive seen people in videos not realise that the Properties option is in the menu cause they expect it to the last option so they go to the other menu and click on it there instead

[astral haven]

Yep

[wheat plume]

I wish the Android 12 themed icons worked on all apps

its so pretty <3

[shadow minnow]

I wish Android had unskippable ads for everytime you open an app

[shadow minnow]

Ngl the icons look cool

[wheat plume]

yeh :D

I want them all to be themed

they adjust to the accent color automatically whenever it changes

but only Google apps for now ;-;

[final flame]

This aged like milk
https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2017/12/google-bans-android-developers-from-adding-lock-screen-ads/

[astral haven]

It was inevitable

[final flame]

Except it's the carriers now

[astral haven]

Insert Thanos meme about ads

[frozen ingot]

new improved advertisements version 2.0

[shadow minnow]

Raid shadow legends

On your Lock Screen

[final flame]

The amount of people rooting after ads get added

📈

[frozen ingot]

if their device even lets them that is

[wheat plume]

Yes
This is so they can do it themselves

[shadow minnow]

Amount of people switching to iOS

[cursive summit]

A blight upon this pure world

[shadow minnow]

What does blight mean?

[shadow minnow]

Well since some people already use iOS how is it s pure world?

[shadow minnow]

Thanks, sorry for not googling myself I am just almost asleep rn

[final flame]

personally I'd rather switch to a custom rom than switching to ios

[cursive summit]

The world already has evil, everything balances out

iOS is just making the world worse

Not cause it's bad, but cause it literally makes you involved in the Apple ecosystem

[frozen ingot]

yes

but using android means using google software

[cursive summit]

If iOS was just like android, where anybody can make a phone that runs iOS, that'd be fine

[shadow minnow]

Well I am fully in the ecosystem nothing left to lose

[frozen ingot]

and that's not better

[cursive summit]

I hate Apple for the monopoly

[shadow minnow]

On their own software

[wheat plume]

I like the colors they are in!

The pixel buds pro

[final flame]

ios is far too locked down for me to even use, And many of the apps I use only exist on android

I'd be shooting myself in the foot if I did switch

[frozen ingot]

I don't mind using android in itself but I hate everything google in it

[shadow minnow]

Hmm weird ngl I never found an app I needed that wouldn’t be for iOS

[final flame]

poweramp

good luck finding a good local audio player on ios

not to mention having to convert your entire flac library to alac if you want it to be lossless

ffs

[frozen ingot]

tbh if I really wanted music on the go a lot I'd actually consider going back to a dedicated media player

[shadow minnow]

I don’t have a library of flac music.
Adding songs is annoying on iOS at least but on macOS they can be rather easily added to Apple Music and then you have them on iOS too and Apple Music is nice imo, but idk if it can be done just through iOS never tried much with local music tbh

[final flame]

If I wanted to listen to a few of my favorite artists, Local files are the only option

[shadow minnow]

I hate so much how Spotify doesn’t let you see song or artists play count

Like why not

Don’t get it

[astral haven]

What?

[frozen ingot]

spotify client has always been a logical disaster imo

[shadow minnow]

It’s like apple making the apple monitor cable non removable

Just makes no sense to me

[astral haven]

You mean in the app?

[shadow minnow]

Even outside couldn’t find a free app that can do it

[shadow minnow]

I mean how many times you listened to the song

[astral haven]

Oh

[cursive summit]

Heh

It does show the number of streams

What are you talking about

[shadow minnow]

Where

[cursive summit]

Oh, like how many times YOU listened to a song?

[shadow minnow]

Yes

[cursive summit]

I don't think that's a statistic virtually anybody cares for

[astral haven]

🤷 they don't want to show you a number that precise because then that would show artists how to game listens
Same as YouTube watches

[shadow minnow]

That’s false

[final flame]

Depends on the person

[shadow minnow]

Many people use stuff like last fm and such to see but it’s only since you install it

[astral haven]

They send you a list at the end of the year sorted by listen count

[shadow minnow]

And also it’s nice to see for me, idk why just want it and look at it time to time

[astral haven]

And they show you the counts for your top 10

[shadow minnow]

Yeah that’s nice but it’s just yearly stuff

And you can’t access it afterwise

If you forget to take a screenshot rip

[astral haven]

There are 3rd party services that do it and that pisses me off tbh

[shadow minnow]

I am also annoyed that 3rd party services that say they would show you all time listens all want money

[astral haven]

It is very rude

[formal vortex]

https://videocardz.com/newz/nvidia-announces-siggraph-2022-special-address-with-ceo-jensen-huang-on-august-9th

its happening!

[cursive summit]

Well well

[pale sigil]

Weird thumbnail

[cursive summit]

So AMD during or before August 5th

Nvidia Aug 9

[formal vortex]

i guess, yeah

[cursive summit]

Anyways

https://mobile.twitter.com/killedbygoogle/status/1552658225207693312

Killed by Google 🌻🇺🇦 (@killedbygoogle)

🍿

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Twitter · Jul 28, 2022, 2:12 PM

And nothing of value was lost

https://videocardz.com/newz/intel-arc-desktop-gpu-launch-delay-has-been-confirmed-by-leaked-internal-roadmaps

It's MLID but seems credible

Arc Alchemist is quite literally waste of space and silicon

Too late, too little

[formal vortex]

i think its a decent starting point. but everything else i agree

[cursive summit]

They'll launch alchemist when next gen is already out and then what, what can Intel offer that NV or AMD won't do better

Battlemage will prolly also launch in time for next gen launch, and be dead on arrival

[wheat plume]

Wait what?
This makes it sound like Google itself is exiting

[fair gull]

but isnt google play music still existing as it got succeeded by yt music

[stark bobcat]

Depends entirely on the price

[fair gull]

idk how one draws that conclusion

intel is sjowing promise with the gpus

[cursive summit]

Compared to current gen

400$ 3070-ish perf is fine

[shadow minnow]

Oh no first gen of GPUs after years can’t compete with flagships of companies who have been for a long time every two years releasing new GPUs 😱

[cursive summit]

New gen launches, what is Intel competing against with their top SKU

4050?

[reef patrol]

3060?

[shadow minnow]

How does that matter

And also didn’t have top performing cards for a while

[cursive summit]

Cause their new gen is dead simply cause a Nvidia and AMD gen launched

More powerful and cheaper cards that kill Intels offerings

Not to mention Intel are shooting themselves in the foot anyways

[formal vortex]

depends on their price

[shadow minnow]

Well no one should expect their first gen to be competing with high end

[reef patrol]

That remains to be seen. It's not like Intel aimed for high end.

[cursive summit]

They are not even mid end

[shadow minnow]

And rebranded rx cards for years and had almost no competition to nvidia but over time they improved

[shadow minnow]

They are mid end

[reef patrol]

https://tenor.com/view/yeah-thats-debatable-diego-hargreeves-david-castaneda-the-umbrella-academy-thats-arguable-gif-17993679

[cursive summit]

Intel I bet won't even scratch the low end cards in certain applications

Lads did you hear what they are saying

[shadow minnow]

Just because in places like this people get expensive high end GPUs doesn’t mean that for normal people that’s not mid end

[reef patrol]

Place your bets.

[formal vortex]

they can compete in dx12

[cursive summit]

"We are focusing on tier 1 applications and have preliminary support in tier 2, everything below tier 3 will work badly"

Tier 1 being "popular" stuff

We already saw Arc's perf in tier 3 apps

It's abysmal

Loses in perf to a 6 year old GPU

They need to fix their drivers first before they launch their cards

[shadow minnow]

It’s their first gen so I still don’t see how does that matter

Also their drivers improved

[cursive summit]

It doesn't work well?

That's why it matters

[shadow minnow]

Yes because it’s first gen

Can’t expect it to be so good

But that’s to be expected

[cursive summit]

So why am I supposed to care for Intel then

That's the whole point, it's dead on arrival

[shadow minnow]

Who says you are supposed to care

You may not care this time

But there will probably be new gens

[cursive summit]

What

[shadow minnow]

Which will slowly be more worth caring about

[cursive summit]

This was the whole point of the conversation

Alchemist is useless

[shadow minnow]

First gen isn’t for people like you

Doesn’t mean it’s for no one if it’s cheap

[cursive summit]

And I bet Battlemage won't be much better either

Intel needs to fix up their drivers and make sure than Battlemage or at the very least the C series is good

And for the love of god Intel don't compare your shit to 3000 series when you are launching your stuff right after 4000 series comes out

[shadow minnow]

Based on iGPU drivers their drivers have already improved in some ways. Especially quite big bugs are now fixed

[reef patrol]

Our cards run at 80% of these unreleased, mythical cards called the 4000 series

[shadow minnow]

How should they compare to GPUs they don’t know anything about yet?

They have no way to know the price

Nor the performance

[cursive summit]

It's simple

Launch the cards when they were supposed to be launched

[reef patrol]

We kill the batman?

[pale sigil]

I think Intel will be fine

[reef patrol]

So... not an ACTUAL argument. Coo'

[cursive summit]

Their marketing is doing bits

Some peeps might buy them

But man as a product, it's not good

https://tenor.com/view/not-good-fantano-theneedledrop-gif-19343413

[shadow minnow]

Nooo I missclicked instead of emote

And my message is gone

Thanks discord

Anyways the Intel GPUs will probably get beaten by first gen apple silicone. Still it’s first gen, so well, can’t expect first gen to be too good unless it’s from apple

[stark bobcat]

Honestly I think intels hardware is good the problem are the drivers which makes it workable

[cursive summit]

The hardware genuinely seems alright

A bit slow

But alright for budget end

Drivers though, oh not the drivers

[stark bobcat]

Drivers just take a little time to get there

[shadow minnow]

Maybe it’s because I am from Slovakia but I would call what most call budget end mid end or low high end

[reef patrol]

The cards are fine for the people buying 3060s anyway...

[shadow minnow]

Which is almost high end if not

[stark bobcat]

I remember when I had a amd r7 270x or sum shit those drivers were asss

And amd is still doing fine for gpus even tho their drivers sucked for years

[shadow minnow]

In my lands Xbox series X and ps 5 are considered high end hardware

[cursive summit]

You live in some booky shadlands then

[stark bobcat]

It's kinda hard since what used to be midrange pricepoints now gets you a 3060

[cursive summit]

I'd argue AMD fixed their drivers... this generation

[stark bobcat]

One tier lower

[cursive summit]

AMD drivers were scuffed before RX 6000

I still hate my RX 5000 for stability

I don't know how RX 400 and 500 did though

[thick elk]

My last dedicated amd gpu was a 7950 and the drivers were perfectly fine.

[stark bobcat]

Polaris is when I'd argue their drivers were passable for the first time

[shadow minnow]

Here on average you would be rather lucky to get 6900xt with one months income if you didn’t pay for rent or buy any food basically

[thick elk]

Now I am on linux dealing with the joy that is nvidia drivers

[cursive summit]

Mate we live in nearly the same country

Well according to our resellers

These are top graphics cards right now

Fancy seein 6800XT there

[stark bobcat]

Ass prices

[cursive summit]

That they actually are

It's expensive as fuck

[reef patrol]

In shops here in Denmark - physical ones, you can see 3070s going for what I paid for my 3080 at the height of the card shortage.

[stark bobcat]

The 6700xt pulse there is 20€ more than in germany

[shadow minnow]

Lol here rx 6600 and 3060 are considered top end

[cursive summit]

I don't think you understand how top end works

[shadow minnow]

(Even by retailers)

It’s literally called that

[stark bobcat]

By their position in the product stack no

[shadow minnow]

Herní špička

[cursive summit]

You mean, most appealing

Or, most affordable

[stark bobcat]

Rtx xx60 is midrange

[shadow minnow]

For some

[cursive summit]

Yeah 6600 and xx60 is midrange

[shadow minnow]

But not all countries are rich

[cursive summit]

That is LITERALLY not how it works

It's midrange cause it's literally midrange

Doesn't matter what country

[shadow minnow]

Tell that to czc

[cursive summit]

If you can't afford higher end cards it doesn't make lower end cards any higher

[shadow minnow]

They call rx 6400 higher end

[cursive summit]

Sounds like scamming

[shadow minnow]

Rx 550 mid end

[cursive summit]

Did you just say

RX 550?

[stark bobcat]

I'd call that barely even a product worth spitting at

[shadow minnow]

Funnily enough it’s also the cheapest GPU they have

[cursive summit]

Bexin I want to know

What do they call GTX 1630?

Oh this will be good

[shadow minnow]

Well it costs 200$ that’s still a bit

[stark bobcat]

That it's even called gtx makes me sad

[cursive summit]

@shadow minnowOY

1630, what is it

Do you even have it

[shadow minnow]

Mid end

[stark bobcat]

And it's a bad buy at that price rx580 was under 200

[cursive summit]

HAHAHAHA

MID END 1630

[shadow minnow]

They don’t have low end

Only mid end high end and top end basically

[cursive summit]

1630 is literally no-end

Cause it doesn't qualify for any of the respectable tiers

[shadow minnow]

Eh it is low end

Almost 200€

[cursive summit]

And it works worse than a GTX 1050Ti

[shadow minnow]

You can get Xbox series s for that

[cursive summit]

That I bought 3 years ago for.. 180$

Brand new card... more expensive than a 1050Ti.. that works worse.. 3 years later..

Actually scratch that, 5 years

I got that 1050Ti in 2017

[shadow minnow]

Well it’s probably better than my iGPU

[stark bobcat]

I could have bought a 1050ti for 130€ new and I considered that a bad price for such a shit card

[shadow minnow]

Funniest thing to me tbh is people calling keyboards up to 200€ mid end

[cursive summit]

Keyboards are not tierable

[shadow minnow]

Like most people have a keyboard for 20€ even people who play games

[cursive summit]

What is the criteria for keyboard tiers

Popularity?

You can't tier keebs, doesn't work like that

[shadow minnow]

No someone just classed it by price

[stark bobcat]

Keyboard don't make much of a functional difference GPUs do

[shadow minnow]

Heresy

Analog makes all the difference

All buy wooting

[stark bobcat]

U got me

[shadow minnow]

https://tenor.com/view/spanish-monty-python-expects-unexpected-sass-gif-5284798

[cursive summit]

Idk man

I watched a Wooting review a long time ago

Was like "That's fancy, I want one"

Bought the keeb

Unpacked it

Was like "So how does this analog work"

Couldn't bother

Never used it once

2 years later, love the keeb

[stark bobcat]

Lmfao

[cursive summit]

Never used analog

[shadow minnow]

Tbf I also haven’t used analog almost ever on my Lekker but that’s partially because on iGPU I can play barely anything and we’ll can’t be bothered setting up profiles

Though I tried setting it up for war thunder once

[stark bobcat]

Still gotta set up my analogue for rocket league I just don't know how to do w being accelerate and left stick forward

Only got it yesterday tho

[reef patrol]

Look on the Wootabase for profiles.

[shadow minnow]

Is it just me or does adding dot on the end of the sentence when you are responding to a question make the response sound kinda mean

No ofense to mansen just in general

[cursive summit]

Bexin, stop.

Or else.

[shadow minnow]

What with?

[cursive summit]

You shall not talk rudely to the duck

[reef patrol]

No it means I take pride in writing at least somewhat correct english with sentence stops and grammar.

https://tenor.com/view/ducktales-ducktales2017-typing-writing-huey-duck-gif-21525431

[shadow minnow]

I really didn’t mean it towards duck just reminded me that when writing myself the dot soemtiems made me feel as if it sounded mean by well, I suppose using such official grammar or idk.

[stark bobcat]

Also the 60he stock sounds so nice tho couldn't help but play osu the entire time yesterday

[junior ore]

Lol https://www.pcmag.com/news/did-the-latest-windows-10-update-stop-your-printer-working

[shadow minnow]

Windows issues

I would throw my windows out the window ngl

[junior ore]

Not the first time windows update messed with printers

[crimson wigeon]

And not the last time

[shadow minnow]

All I want is Intel XTU to work for me

Still

[ashen spindle]

printers are the work of the devil

[junior ore]

😂

For a brief change of job i had to sell the damn things and help customers get them working.

Can confirm printers can be a pain

[ashen spindle]

they are the best proof god doesnt exist because if a god exists and allows humans to make printers it can only be satan in disguise

[reef patrol]

Printer manufacturers are the devil.

Cause they try and pull every last dirty trick in the book, and the EU's always playing catch up. Once the printer is sold, the EU can't UNFUCK it.

[junior ore]

Exactly

[reef patrol]

Firmware that blocks third party cartridges? Sorry - HP and friends won't let you send in the printer for service, cause you used third party cartridges and that fucked up the printer (prove it didn't - they fucking dare you)

I remember needing to lie to Brother on the regular to get them to accept warranty RMA on the cheap ass printers we sold, that would break at the drop of a hat within a year of sale. Just because the customer may have once used a "counterfeit cartridge" and "messed up the printer"

Ah yes - Brother clearly employs psychic support staff that can literally see the printer's internals over the phone.

[junior ore]

A yup

HP the worst of them

[stark bobcat]

all the other ones suck too

[junior ore]

Now at least there's less ink price gauging with the SuperTank style of printers, since no cartridge.

[stark bobcat]

if I ever use another printer it will not be my own

[junior ore]

Which company got the lawsuit for locking the scanner behind the need for ink?

[reef patrol]

If you're just printing B&W a cheap laser printer is the way to go.
But colour ones... jesus fuck those can be a nightmare. We had an expensive HP one in the store that we used for both customer receipts and contracts and in store ads (cut to size and put into holders with product photos in full colour)

I swear by the time I left we had 3 or 4 of that printer in the back that had clogged up from the OFFICIAL powder, which cost as much as the printer itself.

[thick elk]

As far as printers go, moving to linux has tought me they are actually more reliable than they are made out to be. At least on the software side.
Just Windows printer drivers are absolutely terrible.

Especially network printing

[junior ore]

absolutely.

especially in earlier years of windows it was worse.

few days ago I had people argue with me here that linux was dog shit when it came to printers lol

pretty sure thats just the way it is no matter the OS

but windows is def the worst in that department

[wheat plume]

Ive never had issues with printers using Ubuntu or Fedora

Arch did have issues though

Solus also did not have any issues :D

oh great...

Microsoft are making laptops that cannot boot other OSs

Their new Pluton chip

[frozen ingot]

we'll ensure our customers only experience the best

[rich locust]

Hello! I want to start streaming with my TWO HE analog layout, as I press down my keys

[frozen ingot]

whether they want to or not

[rich locust]

how could i do that?

analog layout, to let them see how hard I press

saw it on youtube by some guy

[frozen ingot]

you can get visual representation of keytravel in wootility under gamepad response > gamepad tester

or toggle "touch" rgb mode under colour and point a camera at your F key row

[reef patrol]

There is an app for this.

I forgot the name.

https://github.com/DarrenVs/analog_keyboard_overlay

There we go. For OBS

[junior ore]

I need to stop being lazy with my keyboard and amp up the usage of analog keyboard but I'm currently focused on ym steam deck @_@

[reef patrol]

This is the one you see in the press material i believe

[cursive summit]

DarrenVS

Has to be a coincidence

Surely the odds of this person being here are minimal

[reef patrol]

https://tenor.com/view/hmm-wondering-pondering-thinking-deciding-gif-5236578

[astral haven]

Why?

[cursive summit]

What are the odds a random github fellow being here

Too random

[crimson wigeon]

Yeah, literally impossible

[cursive summit]

Like meeting a random person from facebook on the street

[astral haven]

Wouldn't you expect most of the people deving for wooting boards to be here?

[cursive summit]

Carmonben, you really are susceptible to baiting

[thick elk]

It's not due to the pluton chip, it's due to microsoft deciding the third party key should no longer be enabled by default.

[wheat plume]

.-.

so this can happen to all laptops eventually?

[thick elk]

It has been relatively quiet as it's just one lenovo laptop and lenovo just said it was a requirement from microsoft.
But no word from microsoft directly, so who knows what the future holds.

[wheat plume]

.-.

[thick elk]

As it stands it's a simple bios toggle but it does put things on a dangerous slippery slope

[wheat plume]

yeh :/

[maiden spruce]

Omg… a 6900xt is going for $700 right now… I paid more than double earlier this year…

[rich locust]

can I use this for streamlabs too?

[maiden spruce]

Random statement but my wallet and I are crying

[vocal cipher]

isn't streamlabs basically modified OBS? I don't know, it's a real question, I thought everything that works on OBS would work on streamlabs?

[reef patrol]

I doubt it.

But no clue

[vocal cipher]

ok, seems like for VST plugins OBS supports it Streamlabs doesn't. So it might not

I mean, they are not exactly the same it seems

[slow garnet]

Wasn't Streamlabs also in trouble at one point by being named as "Streamlabs OBS"?

[vocal cipher]

There was some controversy, remember EposVox was talking about it.

[astral haven]

Yep
They were using the OBS open source project, and selling it using the OBS name which they did not have permission to use

[reef patrol]

They made up eventually.

[fair gull]

made up or made out

[reef patrol]

🤔

https://tenor.com/view/now-kiss-viking-playing-like-a-child-gif-12354307

[shadow minnow]

Wow it’s genuinely almost double the fps thanks

[wheat plume]

how tf you open the discord dev console

the shortcut on the website I saw doesnt do anything

[ashen spindle]

https://www.google.com/search?q=discord dev console

[wheat plume]

got to install canary discord

[cursive summit]

ooooo

https://videocardz.com/newz/amd-ryzen-5-7600x-6-core-raphael-cpu-is-up-to-22-faster-than-core-i9-12900k-in-leaked-single-core-test

This is really really cool

22% is solid perf increase

[ashen spindle]

great now read what that test is and you realise its useless data

[cursive summit]

But, it's userbenchmark

Like Quintosh said

And it's basically useless

[ashen spindle]

so why post it

[cursive summit]

22% is kinda cool ngl

[wheat plume]

OMFH

Discord spam the console when you open it to warn you about scammers and shit

oh lol

[latent mural]

yeah, it's kinda useful though, I can imagine how easy it'd be to just make a script to change someones password and send their credidentials to an attacker

and all the 9-year-olds would insta fall for that

[pale sigil]

to bypass the google drive download limit now you just add it to a folder and itll zip it up

[fair gull]

more a script to get the token

[fair gull]

doesnt always work but sure

[pale sigil]

Well it worked for me rn so thats all i care about

[reef patrol]

Yeah it's been like this for ages.

[reef patrol]

Worked for me for over a year with no no exceptions.

[pale sigil]

it used to be a simple case of making a copy

irrrc

[reef patrol]

Just add something as a favourite, then a funny, dummy file, select both and download as zip

Massively helpful after zippy share and other sites started geoblocking me.

[fair gull]

i had the zip trick error sometimes already

[reef patrol]

Sucks to be you I guess

[wheat plume]

Got to figure out how to display the contents of a folder inside rofi

[cursive summit]

Yay softlaunch https://videocardz.com/newz/asus-msi-now-offer-desktops-with-intel-arc-a380-a310-desktop-gpus

A770 where

[shrewd thicket]

RTX 4080 where

Gimme

[cursive summit]

Yeah I guess we do need a room heater

After all of those gas cuts

What is the point of stuffing an A380 into a gaming rig, I really want to know

It's not really good enough for gaming

[cursive summit]

https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/1675200/view/3413183219974913051

A lot of people who were Q4 went to Q3

Interesting

Interesting to think I was one of the first to actually click on the preorder link, but never bought the thing

Seems alright but not something most would need

[wheat plume]

SFouhWASEGUOAERHGAEOIUHTSOIER

omfh yes

AAGGHHHH <3

[true quest]

same

[wheat plume]

OOOO

this is so amazing!
!

[cursive summit]

Grats

[true quest]

it seems i will get the deck with the 60 together

all i'm missing is a suitable mouse

[hallow tree]

if your looking to complete the endgame setup, consider the finalmouse or the zaunkoenig m2k

[cursive summit]

Wait so, when do you pay for your Deck?

Is it like in the same quarter, or as it's your turn to get it?

[true quest]

when it's ready to ship, you get payment confirmation that needs to be filled within three days of receiving it

[reef patrol]

You pay that 5 buck up front fee and when it's your turn you either pay and get an actual order or relinquish your reservation and the next one in queue gets to decide.

[cursive summit]

Alright sunshines, makes sense

[junior ore]

yup yup. paid for the que a year ago and didn't pay for the machine until it was ready not too long ago

[cursive summit]

https://www.independent.co.uk/tech/elon-musk-twitter-trial-date-b2134086.html

Does Musk still count as richest?

Bezos been giving him flak

And technically he will get shafted for breaking the deal, at least few B$ penalization

[true quest]

something something carlos slim

[cursive summit]

who

[ashen spindle]

no he will only have to pay if he is found guilty of some aprts

which is likley but also not 0% that he pays nothing

[cursive summit]

There's still the 1B$ break clause

I don't think he can legally avoid that

Anything more than that, depends on the ruling

[ashen spindle]

yes he can

[cursive summit]

I suppose if he proves that Twitter broke the agreement first, he might get it annulled

[ashen spindle]

yes thats his card

[cursive summit]

It's a fustercluck, we'll see what happens

[wheat plume]

I tried to make my monitors aligned like IRL cause the left one is higher up
so I kept dragging the right one in the GUI downwards and it didnt work

finally realised I need to move the left one upwards

[thick elk]

I personally wouldn't do that, as now when you move your mouse to the right from the top of your left monitor it won't go to your right one and vise versa for the bottom of your right monitor.

[astral haven]

I'm so hype I just ordered mine yesterday!

[wheat plume]

ooo

...jealous

[astral haven]

Oops

Ok this time without doxing myself

[junior ore]

lol

[latent mural]

Hey hey~ It's been a while, but wanted to drop by and ask for some thoughts - as I was a wooting founder, but haven't used it in years and am catching up with wooting as my interest has been revitalized in recent months.

I made sure to scan through some past conversations in the discord first, and found a few interesting messages regarding high polling / scanrates, specifically when it comes to keyboards.

#archived_wooting_60he message

This one in particular I mostly agree with the sentiment, and wanted to add onto it.

Wanted to say in general first though, for those not actively playing a variety of games at 2000/4000/8000hz mouse rates, the support for those rates have drastically improved in recent time. (past 9-3 months) where 2000hz near universally works, and many games are no longer having issues with 8000hz, as the industry is moving forward and kinda forcing developers hands in competitive gaming.

Personally I think as a blanket statement, for now, relatively, 8000hz is overkill - but I am starting to believe in the first step of 2000hz, as we get to higher and higher monitor refresh rates - especially 360, 390/480, and soon 500hz, it'll be especially important for mice to stay well above anywhere near monitor refresh, where blurbusters is making the assertion that mouse polling should be 5x higher than monitor refresh.
... But now I am thinking 2000hz is relevant for keyboards, too - but not for typical keyboards, but for wooting specifically.

The reason I am wondering about this is since wooting, as we all obviously know - isn't just a "has the key been pressed since last polled" - there's variability in key presses, there's letting go of pressing, there's incredibly minute inputs that can be done and at various speeds and depths - where my personal thoughts are that it feels obvious that we should be talking about higher polling (like 2K, not 8K....) in the context that wooting is specifically the type of keyboards we should be talking about in the context of potential improvements in higher polling rates, not for "latency" but for accuracy and fluidity.

I think the main reason I write all this to ensure my point isn't missed, is because I didn't find any of the past conversations (though I could have easily missed them) talking about keyboard polling rates in the context of wooting-specific technology, which kinda caught me off guard, tbh - so here's hopefully this sparks something.

Any thoughts on that? Should 2000hz be in mind for future implementations? Is higher fluidity relevant to analog input?

[astral haven]

The wooting 60he has a scanrate only barely faster than 1ms nd the other boards are over 1ms scanrate
Polling rate faster than that wouldn't do anything at all

And there is a huuuuge difference between mice and keyboards

A keyboard is highly unlikely to hit it's polling rate limit where a mouse is nearly guaranteed to

[latent mural]

Again, I'm referring to fluidity of updates regarding variable inputs - not just latency to register a key press, which I would agree has relatively no difference at all.

[astral haven]

Ok?
That addresses neither of my points...

[latent mural]

For specific types of inputs, the types Wooting is known for / specialize in, it's far more relevant to at least discuss the implication.
Again, I agree, for typical key presses in most cases, 1000hz is plenty

[astral haven]

Remember joystick input is absolute not relative
The computer (game) calculates the relative motion

[latent mural]

[astral haven]

Have you ever used a resampling program to upsample your mouse input?

[latent mural]

I have not, no

[astral haven]

If you have a drawing tablet, try it out on that

Then switch between absolute and relative mode in both cases

Relative mouse input when upsampled is horrific and adds acceleration
Absolute input upsampled just makes things smoother
There is inherently no acceleration, and the latency addition is not noticeable

[junior ore]

@latent mural the art style of this character is very familiar

[latent mural]

Uguubear is the emote artist~ She's done the emotes for hundreds of the biggest streamers on twitch, so that's likely why. :>

[junior ore]

What about your discord user banner?

[ashen spindle]

I also imagine the future ARM models might be able to do >1khz and if it works that would probably be one of the features it has once parity with avr models is not given anymore, though as was pointed out that would most likely be more marketing to have same numbers as other vendors without really doing much

[junior ore]

I know an artist that draws extremely like that

[latent mural]

That's what I was thinking, too.
Between ARM making it far more feasible, and the benefits of the marketing - assuming not an overwhelming amount of trade-offs of development costs.

[ashen spindle]

well for now parity is guaranteed till 2024

so I imagine in the time between finishing the firmware and then they will have ample time to poke at what they can get out of it since I bet people will constantly ask about it lol

[latent mural]

Here~
https://twitter.com/putter_beanut/status/1444756029225324545

[astral haven]

Yep
Just hope for more features rather than speed myself
The web wootility is super awesome and definetly my favorite feature

[junior ore]

Is cute cute

[ashen spindle]

since you also dont aim with your keyboard like you would on a controller that probably also contributes to not feeling the difference as much as on a >1khz mouse where as you said blubusters has nice infos about why it's great

[latent mural]

Yeahhhh, I feel bad asking given I know people are always in here and, well, everywhere... regarding 8000hz, but hopefully we can see some improvements as a whole to overall polling frequencies.

I was diving down a few rabbit holes today, this one in particular has been interesting
https://forums.blurbusters.com/viewtopic.php?f=22&t=7739#p59636

[astral haven]

Just remember mice != Keyboards

[latent mural]

Sorry, I forgot for a sec there

[ashen spindle]

well, the more people ask about it the more it shows the team something is wanted so asking for the same over and over again isn't a bad thing

[latent mural]

Thanks for the reminder

[ashen spindle]

so for now I would say check back after the arm batch is done and working since I dont think before that they will have time to poke at new shiny stuff but rather have to make it work and catch up on other planned stuff

or just leave some text in #archived_feed_us_back and they'll see it

[latent mural]

Sounds good, I'll keep tabs on things
Appreciate the convo~

For those also interested in the 8Khz rabbit hole, another post of interest~
https://forums.blurbusters.com/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=7569&start=220#p61813

[junior ore]

https://www.adesso.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/03/20180116173715.jpg

lol

we can find some fraken devices though

[astral haven]

a trackpad is not a mouse either

[junior ore]

close enough

if we attache a mouse nib and track ball

three-mice 😄

the tri-omni of keyboard-mice

[cursive summit]

https://twitter.com/RealMiCentral/status/1553244135993139202

RealMi Central (@RealMiCentral)

AMD’s market value surpassed Intel’s #News #AMD #Intel https://t.co/rXC4MTM4Af

Twitter · Jul 30, 2022, 5:00 AM

[mild dome]

People bought a lot of personal computers during covid, and with bitcoin crashing the market is filling up with a lot of used items for cheap.
Personal computers will hang around for a lot longer yet, at most we might see a transition to a different architecture like ARM if x86 can't keep up

[ashen spindle]

amd already surpassed intels market cap last year when the stock was higher

and intel is on a track to lose out short term and gain much more later on if it works, amd is currently winning despite still being a much smaller company

so the stock prices mean nothing between them

and arm is not going to replace consumer hardware anytime soon

[crimson wigeon]

BUT APPLE SILICON

[ashen spindle]

apples uses arm because they cant use x86

[rocky pulsar]

Well because x86 Intel chips run super hot

[ashen spindle]

no because they literally arent allowed to use x86 since they dont have a license

[rocky pulsar]

In a laptop, don't want to burn the battery power as heat if you can avoid it

Ah right, to be fair only 3 companies on the planet do

ARM is a good architecture though, x86 is very complicated and hard to optimise

[ashen spindle]

intel chips running hot is not because of the uArch

[rocky pulsar]

A (relatively) small chip team would struggle with a CISC setup

[ashen spindle]

apples chip team is/was by no means small

[rocky pulsar]

Compared to Intel or AMD though

I imagine we're talking at least a tenth of the size right?

[ashen spindle]

https://www.extremetech.com/computing/323245-risc-vs-cisc-why-its-the-wrong-lens-to-compare-modern-x86-arm-cpus

[rocky pulsar]

Yeah absolutely, ARM (and even RISC-V) are not really RISC in the old sense

But they're certainly dramatically simpler than x86

[ashen spindle]

I mean it's a moot point to argue since they could have the entire intel team and still weren't able to make an x86 chip

[rocky pulsar]

I'm not sure why they'd want to anyway though?

Given their very long history with ARM

[ashen spindle]

which again, is in big part due to them only being able to use something like arm or riscv

but they had people like jim keller on the team who's known for doing big work in x86

[rocky pulsar]

Earlier on, they were buying ARM chips from other companies. Could have also bought x86 ones

The iPhone was originally going to be x86 iirc

But the unit economics didn't work out

[ashen spindle]

yeah and intel missed out on a massive market because iirc they didn't expect the market to grow so much so they didn't go as customized as they could for the chips option

efficient lower power x86 chips exist, but if you compare 5nm M1 with a full all around 12900k on a 10nm node with stuff like avx512 and all that arm doesnt use, of course the latter one runs much hotter

[rocky pulsar]

Day to day practical applications (which the AS chips are designed around) overwhelmingly do not use AVX512 etc

[ashen spindle]

yes so a custom x86 chip could just not have those features, having x86 doesnt enforce you have to add that

[rocky pulsar]

But then to be fair, the surface area of AS chips are overwhelmingly not the CPU

Yeah but it's not like that's the issue

If it's barely ever used, it's not the cause of the power issues

[ashen spindle]

it's not always used but takes up die space, it's just one example for stuff they have that is not needed and could have been cut if you want to make an equal chip

but the node is the much bigger difference

[rocky pulsar]

I guess the key thing either way, is that there is no x86 chip with the practical performance & battery life balance of the M1/M2

Whether there could be really doesn't matter

If you want to buy something today, it is what it is

[ashen spindle]

https://twitter.com/SebAaltonen/status/1552266666301587456

Sebastian Aaltonen (@SebAaltonen)

Seems that the Zenbook S13 OLED (Ryzen 6800U) is a good competitor for the M2 Macbook Air:
https://t.co/Sn2tTujlc0

For the same price you get 2x larger SSD + 2x RAM. Similar CPU/GPU perf, battery life and weight. And it has a great OLED screen...

Likes

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Twitter · Jul 27, 2022, 12:16 PM

yes what the consumer can get is not the same as what the architecture can do

[rocky pulsar]

Those are impressive battery life numbers, must admit I'm skeptical

[ashen spindle]

if apple spends extra billions to get a a node a year earlier and thus have the same performance earlier, thats not because of the architecture

[rocky pulsar]

Where the M1 etc does really well is then with eg the media encoding etc, so good for people doing video editing etc

I write code all day so it's pretty lightweight use regardless

I wonder how big the batteries are on those machines

[ashen spindle]

yes its great in a lot of things, but it's not an indicator that x86 cant do it

[reef patrol]

Buying an Apple laptop is like buying a console. It's great until you want to do something it isn't specifically made for. 😄

Give me a well rounded x86 system any day

[rocky pulsar]

To be fair, they are excellent for almost everything. The one major downfall is gaming, of course

Or I guess very old stuff, doesn't perform as well on Rosetta 2

[ashen spindle]

those amd chips are still a node behind what M1/2 are on so even if those tests are not fully accurate, that should show x86/arm is not the reason

[reef patrol]

Well gaming - And using any kind of x86 app. It's always a gamble with their Rosetta stuff

[rocky pulsar]

But to be fair, a traditional machine can't run ARM stuff at all

On the server/cloud side, it's rapidly moving to ARM

Quite nice to be able to match arch when developing

[reef patrol]

Just give us the co-processor back.

Lemme socket in an ARM cpu on my high end desktop board and set up a new standard. 😄

[rocky pulsar]

I guess the issue is if you have to run really old software

Anything actively maintained, it should be really easy to just run it natively on another arch

[ashen spindle]

also the IPC of the M2 regressed compared to M1 lol

of the cpu, the gpu did get a bit faster

[rocky pulsar]

How does it do on single core peak etc?

That seemed to be the key thing which made M1 do so well

[ashen spindle]

oh it does do better than m1 and I forgot the numbers but I noticed it during the m2 release key note, they need like 30% more clocks for 15% more performance or something like that, so IPC was worse

[rocky pulsar]

I always find it funny on the die shots, how little of the chip is actually CPU

It makes sense, just not what you might imagine

[cursive summit]

https://videocardz.com/newz/amd-radeon-rx-7900-navi-31-series-rumored-to-feature-20-gbps-memory-launch-in-november

Only 20

Not 24

As long as it's enough for competing with Nvidia, it's fine to leave space for a later refresh

[mild dome]

AMD is going to be relying on the infinity cache to make up the difference. It worked fairly well with last generation, and so I imagine this coming generation will have likely have an even better cache. IRC they are going to be using chiplets so I imagine cache should be even BIGGER

[cursive summit]

I do believe firmly AMD is still waiting for RTX 4000 preliminary results

They might just tweak some things in the launch drivers to make up any perf difference

Isn't that what happened with 6700XT and why it was initially shit or something

https://twitter.com/kopite7kimi/status/1553003215544672258

kopite7kimi (@kopite7kimi)

RTX 4080, TSE >15000,
RTX 4070, TSE ~10000.
These scores are based on specs I mentioned before.
Honestly, it's not quite sure yet except RTX 4090. Well, I don't care.

Likes

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Twitter · Jul 29, 2022, 1:03 PM

That's a really good score on the 4080

[mild dome]

I am guessing those scores are world leaders in overclocking cards with LN2?

[cursive summit]

That'd be the hall of fame, so highest scores

I would assume that's the score they are talking about

TSE 10K for 4070 is rather weak though

What AMD and Nvidia were doing this generation, kinda, and it's prolly only going to get worse

Is widening the gap between xx70 and lower cards and xx80

They ask for a substantial premium but also get you really good perf when it comes to xx80 cards

[mild dome]

If an in production (presumably air cooled) 4080 can defeat a LN2 cooled 3090 Ti boosted to it's absolute physical limit then that's dare I say poggers

Though the 4070's low score although better then the 3070 probably is a real bummer

[cursive summit]

I mean 4080 beating out 3090Ti is a given

The question is, at what cost

Power will prolly be sucked dry out of the socket

Oh shit WCCFTech got a site redesign

Looking kinda good

https://wccftech.com/intel-xess-wont-be-available-until-early-summer-games-list-gets-larger/

[stark bobcat]

I just bought a 6700xt idk if it s the right choice but the euro is kinda ass rn

and I don't earn any money yet

[cursive summit]

Idk I'm waiting until next gen launch

To see how economy does and how the market changes

[mild dome]

I HOPE the 4070 is substantially cheaper. Doesn't the 4070 use a different chip then the 4090/4080? I imagine the real bottleneck is the memory in all honestly, IRC the 3070 uses regular GDDR6, rather then GDDR6X+SUPREMEULTRA

I have some doubts the power draw is as high as some claim, unless those are going for a really spread out chiplet design current gen has trouble dissipating all the heat it needs to deal with.
I think what's really going to happen is that they are going to tell people to buy bigger power supplies in order to resolve the Overcurrent protection issues the power draw spikes have caused.

[stark bobcat]

well they always start with the high end and I wont buy a high end card ever

[cursive summit]

Yes 4070 does have a different chip

[stark bobcat]

I just want something that will last me a while

[pale sigil]

The fuck is anvil

[cursive summit]

Should be AD104 or what it's called

[pale sigil]

Why does or look like anthem

[cursive summit]

Anvil?

The software thingy?

[stark bobcat]

what's your current gpu

[cursive summit]

RX 5700

Good enough

But I'm building a second rig

[stark bobcat]

I am still on pascal

and maxwell

[cursive summit]

Yeah solid

But yeah I need a second rig

So I'm patiently waiting

[pale sigil]

I need amd

[cursive summit]

You need meds that's what you need

[stark bobcat]

yeah I am on my second rig rn the 970 still going strong

[mild dome]

IRC Anthem had a good idea, it's gameplay is good there just isn't enough of anything
So if someone came around and made Anthem, but with actual content it would probably be a hit

[pale sigil]

Because fuck Nvidia

[stark bobcat]

that card is as trooper

3.5 kekw

[pale sigil]

And their Linux drivers

I wish I had an igpu, I'd use that over my 3080 for Linux

Wanted to use my deck but valve are morons

[stark bobcat]

is the one usb port impeding you?

[mild dome]

Nah, Pleasant asked Valve for a deck, and they instead built a patio
So incompetent

[pale sigil]

Well, it makes my life more difficult but I meant more steam os

[stark bobcat]

ah ic

[pale sigil]

For what I want to do I need to spend like £150-200

Can't be fucked doing so

[stark bobcat]

I wish the deck wouldn't stop downloads in non desktop mode when going to sleep

[cursive summit]

Careful you will get sushy and von bon to call you a retard cause "Linux masterrace"

"Linux always works"

[stark bobcat]

one of the few things the switch does better

[pale sigil]

Goals

[stark bobcat]

lmfao

[cursive summit]

That looks ass

[pale sigil]

OMFG I know, such a basic features.

Well I would run steam os

Tbf

[cursive summit]

Razer Seiren? Two horizontal screens?

Talk about a waste of money and hardware

[stark bobcat]

portrait mode isnt bad

[pale sigil]

That's not mine but I meant more using the deck on 2 screens as my desktop and having my desktop anywhere I go

Oh I have one landscape and one portrait

[stark bobcat]

i run one of my displays that way cuz I dont have enough desk space for 27' displays

[cursive summit]

Get a 1:1 screen or a reading screen then

[stark bobcat]

same

I'd prefer to have both landscape but I simply lack the space

[cursive summit]

If you don't got one of these you ain't shit https://www.eizo.com/products/flexscan/ev2730q/

[stark bobcat]

dude

that actually is pretty cool

[cursive summit]

You can actually get one, they are in stock and fairly well priced

[stark bobcat]

but idk how well applications would support that

[stark bobcat]

then what do I do with my other secondary monitor

[cursive summit]

Trash it

Embrace the 1:1

[stark bobcat]

uhmmmmmm

[ashen spindle]

yeah no

[cursive summit]

Or send it to me

[stark bobcat]

it s not a very cheap one

1440p 144hz ips secondary monitor

[ashen spindle]

I think I rather not pay 9x the price of my portrait monitor

[stark bobcat]

bruh not buying that if that is the price

[cursive summit]

Maybe I did lie about the price

[stark bobcat]

bru

it would be cool to have tho

but that price

why is it so expensive?

[cursive summit]

Prolly cause it's for businesses

[ashen spindle]

and the panel is not something mass made so not big order quantities

[cursive summit]

When I worked in business retail, a lot of the shit businesses bought was overpriced, in my eyes, business grade shit

They don't typically buy the typical LG or Samsung gaming panels unless it's a business that's smaller in size

But the big ones always ordered the boring 60Hz displays for like 300$

[stark bobcat]

come to think of it my dad still has quite a few old square monitors in the basement

since he works at a hospital and always got the stuff they replaced for free

[junior ore]

very untrue >.>

also just get one of these instead of a 1:1 https://www.lg.com/us/monitors/lg-28mq780-b

it's not 9000 dollars

[ashen spindle]

nobody said 9000

its 900

also is that us only?

[junior ore]

my bad pressing the key an extra time

aaaaaand idunno if its us exclusive or not

search for it, LG DualUp

I want to get one but I wish it was cheaper.

[stark bobcat]

it s 600€

that is still a lot

[junior ore]

yeah

[stark bobcat]

for a secondary

[junior ore]

BUT : modern 4:3 monitor

with arm mount

if it was 200 cheaper i'd instantly buy it.

[cursive summit]

You're not half bad

Just need to shut up half the time and stop arguing

Sushy is beyond lost

[ashen spindle]

700 vs 900 euro isnt much of a difference if the other option is 100 or less

[pale sigil]

My my deck only seems to be getting 20-30mb/s lan transfer from my nas

Disappointed

Actually not that disappointed since mum is currently streaming Plex which even though is using wan still uses up a lot of local bandwidth

Will probably set up a mesh network at one point

[reef patrol]

MegaBYTES hopefully?

[pale sigil]

Ye

Wish I could have what Tony has XD

Might just get a usb to ethernet cos why not

I do a lot of transfering from my nas

I want the dock tbh but I'm finding to difficult to buy it (as in justifying) even though it doesn't cost that much

[crimson wigeon]

I'm just waiting for the official dock like a good fanboy

[junior ore]

I have a universal lenovo dock and a dell thunderbolt at work. But it would be nice to use something that isn't a switch stand to keep it upright

[stark bobcat]

yeah I need one for when I ll go on vacation soon already have a dongle but I just need a stand

[chrome estuary]

i want it.

[chrome estuary]

i wonder if i should start buying parts for my next PC now. All i need is a processor (waiting for it to be released), motherboard (same thing), new case, and ram (ddr5)

[pale sigil]

Me whenever i use duckduckgo

https://tenor.com/view/copium-meme-pepe-frog-gif-26117735

[cursive summit]

Imagine using duckduckgo

Literally a scam

[pale sigil]

do tell

[cursive summit]

What I hated about ddg is the fact that you aren't getting good results

Like the search is just not good

What

The fuck

The thing is not even out yet

It's good that this is happening though, just shows how useless the site is

[shadow minnow]

[shadow minnow]

• infinity of nice to haves

[cursive summit]

I really want to know who's running that site

Cause they are either handsomely paid or retarded

And could be, if verified, a good testimony in an anti-monopoly court

[ashen spindle]

the site is made to generate money from google ads thats why it shows up so often in searches

the sooner people stop talking about it the sooner we give them money for free

[reef patrol]

So many sites like that - I swear if I google something like "How to disable X in Windows/Android" the first page of results are just duplicate SEO sites full of ads saying the exact same, and entirely useless shit.

[shadow minnow]

Yeah

[reef patrol]

I grabbed a google search blacklist addon just to try and get around the worst of those. It will just outright hide any website I've previously hidden. Huge timesaver.

[cursive summit]

I have no clue what any of you are talking about

[shadow minnow]

Summer depression

That comes every year

[cursive summit]

I guess having double adblocker and firefox optimizations makes me immune

[shadow minnow]

I just want to disappear

Such a great song ngl

[ashen spindle]

adblocker doesnt change google results that arent ad spots

and UB is really often first result when anyone looks for cpu/gpu comparisons unless there is a video on exactly those two options

and for the regular user it appears to be a decent site that has detailed info

[reef patrol]

https://www.google.com/search?q=how+to+disable+notifications+in+android&oq=how+to+disable+notifications+in+android&aqs=chrome.0.0i512j0i22i30l9.5343j0j7&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8

Glance at the first 3-4 sites and notice how they're all just copy/pasted bullshit "guides" with no actual answers to what you were expecting. And full of ads.

[cursive summit]

That it is, and it's annoying

Ahhh that's what you mean

Lifewire, digitaltrends, those kind of websites

Yeah I just found a bypass

"How to do something REDDIT"

Bypasses all the bullshit and gets you straight to the answer

[reef patrol]

🤔

[cursive summit]

WSJ

https://www.wsj.com/articles/chiplet-amd-intel-apple-asml-micron-ansys-arm-ucle-11659135707?st=ya2xhaip8nkcfnf&reflink=desktopwebshare_permalink

Just for discussion

[empty wren]

werenta they also caught selling data

[cursive summit]

Recently, yes

To Google iirc

[reef patrol]

If you can't beat them, duck em

Wait no.

[junior ore]

DuckDuckGo got caught selling personal information

[edgy parrot]

Any chance to order wooting 60he with paypal??

[ashen spindle]

no

also #archived_questions_answers

[misty saffron]

what is kinda disappointing in that phone is the non-existent water protection

[wheat plume]

and the big ass bubbles

[empty wren]

Is that android 13

[wheat plume]

no

12

and Nothing decided that bubbles looked good

[empty wren]

Oh

[wheat plume]

that is not stock

the other toggles are stock

not the mobile data and BT toggles

[empty wren]

They are also above the brightness slider

[wheat plume]

yeh..

well, tbf

they make the rightness slider lower

[empty wren]

Guess they really pushed to be different

[wheat plume]

so easy to reach one handed

[empty wren]

I would like sliding on the status bar to regulate brightness

[wheat plume]

oo yes

[empty wren]

That would be good enough at least in my opinion

[wheat plume]

I had a custom rom that did that

[empty wren]

Custom firmwares used to have a lot

[wheat plume]

I reallllyyyyy wish the volume buttons to change song was a standard android feature

[empty wren]

That is easy to add

[wheat plume]

holding volume up and down while the screen is off skipped and went back a song respectivly

soooo useful for when I am driving

dont have to try to tap a small ass button on the screen

[empty wren]

Check out some apps or do you already have that functionality

[wheat plume]

I dont

[empty wren]

I think an app could easily add all that

Heck tasker could I think

[wheat plume]

there is an app but it needs to run in the background at all times

[empty wren]

Yep

[wheat plume]

and need root perms

.-.

TIL I have the same suitcase as MrWhoseTheBoss

[pale sigil]

looks like any suitcase lol

[wheat plume]

it looks the very same as mine and the same color xd

[misty saffron]

that is indeed a suitcase

[wheat plume]

I like this change..... very nice

any excess notifications are put into a size-adaptable pill shape thingy

in Android 13

[shadow minnow]

That looks a bit weird

[wheat plume]

I like it

idk, better than seeing them all taking the entire bottom half of the screen

[misty saffron]

Deeper Network

[wheat plume]

huh?

[shadow minnow]

I dont like the shape of the top part mostly

[wheat plume]

the large ones?

[shadow minnow]

And there being two notifications per app shown

[shadow minnow]

Yeah how they are connected

[wheat plume]

That happens in notifications too when the phone is unlocked but less tall

[ashen spindle]

it goes in real deep thats why its listed as an opportunity

[shadow minnow]

Also the Instagram notifications don’t show anything useful

[wheat plume]

it does when you expand it

[shadow minnow]

Well yes but should rather show you one notification that has useful info than two useless

[wheat plume]

TBF, it should remove the "Instagram" on the content cause you already know what app its from at the top

[shadow minnow]

And it should tell you what first not the name

[cursive summit]

https://videocardz.com/newz/intel-confirms-14th-gen-meteor-lake-has-versatile-processing-unit-for-ai-deep-learning-applications

[astral haven]

aaaaaaaaaaah

thats not a vpu

[ashen spindle]

more like its a SPU

shit procressing unity

[wheat plume]

I really like that when I open the pixel buds case near my phone, it tells me what battery level the case is on

[shadow minnow]

My AirPods Pro do the same it’s useful ngl

[iron wave]

It should say in the BT tile.

[astral haven]

case battery is the hard part tho

my xm4s have it when you install the app and its pretty good

[wheat plume]

Yeh it does
But not the case battery level

[iron wave]

🤷

[wheat plume]

Oh
You got them speaker glasses

Noice

[iron wave]

Yeah it lets me hear other things so it's pretty nice.

[wheat plume]

Ahh...true true