its so oversaturated
#🔌│tech
shrewd thicket
cursive summit
Apple always oversaturates
shrewd thicket
idk what this guy did in post
cursive summit
People think that's why apple is good
shrewd thicket
thats not the apple look
pale sigil
Apple always oversaturates
haha ye its the ultrawide camera too
stark bobcat
I can understand why sadly they are too big for my liking
shrewd thicket
People think that's why apple is good
my guy. thats LITERALLY what samsung does
oversaturate
AHHAAHA
stark bobcat
woulda snapped one up in a heartbeat if they were smaller
shrewd thicket
Apple always has a very natural tone
cursive summit
I don't even own a single samsung device
pale sigil
The Samsung S8 Ultra is great but needs to be cheaper imo
shadow minnow
Apple always oversaturates
Not as much, depends, soemtiems it actually undersaturates
cursive summit
If I wanted to go for good photos I'd buy Pixel or Sony
shrewd thicket
Not as much, depends, soemtiems it actually undersaturates
yes this
sometimes it goes too natural
shadow minnow
Especially in like forests
It goes to brownish
Which well forests are brown
But sunlight in it tends to be not as much as iphone thinks
shrewd thicket
I don't even own a single samsung device
do u own a apple device?
pale sigil
I wouldn't be so aggressive about IPads if it was still their A chips and not M1
stark bobcat
The Samsung S8 Ultra is great but needs to be cheaper imo
it will be the prices on those come down quite a bit
once the next gen releases
pale sigil
Snapdraggon need to catch up with arm big time.
shrewd thicket
I wouldn't be so aggressive about IPads if it was still their A chips and not M1
yuh
cursive summit
do u own a apple device?
There is only a single apple device I ever bought, and that wasn't even for me, iPod Touch 5
pale sigil
and tbh Samsung can fuck off with their other chip shit
cursive summit
So no, I don't
shrewd thicket
and tbh Samsung can fuck off with their other chip shit
egnos cring
pale sigil
The only device ill ever suggest from Apple is IPads.
They dominate for a reason even with the shitty price tags.
shrewd thicket
i hate how they use SD in usa and exynos everywhere else
pale sigil
Yeah I don't really care even they are good, it's Apple
Fair enough, its your money 
stark bobcat
why exynos so shit tho
shrewd thicket
Fuck. Apple
seems to be a theme with you, hate just to hate. no one can do bad and good at the same time
pale sigil
Fuck apple indeed but im not going to let that change value for money when it comes to IPads 
cursive summit
Fair enough, its your money <:sassy_shrug:676702618927628291>
Yeah I don't like Samsung either but I've watched a lot of reviews of the S8 Ultra, and it's good af
pale sigil
im not saying its bad
cursive summit
seems to be a theme with you, hate just to hate. no one can do bad and good at t...
Look who's talking mr. insultive assumptions
stark bobcat
Fuck apple indeed but im not going to let that change value for money when it co...
actually based
shrewd thicket
Look who's talking mr. insultive assumptions
pretty based cuz ur buying one
pale sigil
but its stupidly priced
shrewd thicket
no they should be improved
stark bobcat
have you used one recently
shrewd thicket
android has great potential, i mean android literally has a desktop mode built in these days but its basically unused
there is literally native dex but no one has used it like wtf
pale sigil
I love android but i also hate it.
Its so messy at times and as said isn't remotely designed for tablets
pale sigil
tbh i used to be one of those people who cried but its IPS Retna.
But it makes a difference what they do.
Especially HDR
When i compared a Samsung tab next to an IPad pro a few weeks ago i kidna felt a little shame xD
Mainly because i used to scream about the screens being old and poo vs budget stuff.
shrewd thicket
retina is crazy when you get used to it
pale sigil
Don't get me wrong, i wish they moved onto new tech though.
pale sigil
IPad pro uses mini led
shrewd thicket
4k@240 and 4k ultrawides can't come sooner
stark bobcat
one thing I find kinda funny tho as I get older I crave new tech less and less at this point I ll just wait for refurb m1 Ipads to be affordable and buy one of those
shrewd thicket
i'd rather get second hand than refurbished
stark bobcat
hmmm I've not been burned yet tbh
shrewd thicket
i've always had good experience with second hand actually
stark bobcat
but it might happen
shrewd thicket
but i think the type of second hand market we have in the netherlands is actually really good
stark bobcat
german second hand market is kinda ass people ask wayyy too much for what they have
so prices shift upwards
I've had 1 good deal tho 2nd hand wacom cth-680 for like 20€
wheat plume
see what I mean
it doesnt look like an OLED screen
there is backlighting right??
yeah... its not as dark as the bezels
pale sigil
all i see is reflections
wheat plume
well yeah
pale sigil
and is the memu even amoled black
wheat plume
yeah, the android system settings is AMOLED Black
pale sigil
also it wont be as dark as the bezel
wheat plume
Unless Material You tints it slightly?
pale sigil
different blacks exist and lighting conditions matter and brightness
pale sigil
also in general all amoled screens are different
idk, but like when im using discord black theme it almost matches up with the bezel but if i put my light on the bezel bounces light
wheat plume
discord amoled also makes the screen black as the bezels
pale sigil
what phone is this
wheat plume
Mi Note 10 Lite
pale sigil
that explains it
wheat plume
?
what
this phone is half the price of the Pixel 6A
so the screen cant be as good, youd assume
wheat plume
I use my phone mostly under half brightness xd
wheat plume
hmm
pale sigil
why does the pixel only use gorilla glass 3
wheat plume
I think it might be the Material You tinting the window
Cause the accent color is sage green
and this is greenish tint
ok.... its got to be the theming
in the other screenshot, its a blueish accent color and yeah..
pale sigil
Whatever glass Apple use on the IPad is so good.
Prob gorrila glass undisclosed
not had a screen protector on any of my IPads
none and ive dropped them against anything you can think, metal, brick etc
wheat plume
The iPad glass has to deal with pens and shit
pale sigil
one scratch in 7 years and you can not see it
wheat plume
got to scratch proof
wheat plume
o
astral haven
there is backlighting right??
The oleds physically reflect the studio lights
Lcds reflect too, but it's at least 4x dimmer
pale sigil
seems its time to get the isopropyl out
pale sigil
cursive summit
@ashen spindle thoughts?
A bit of a weird move from Nvidia to go monolithic for 2 more generations
If let alone this gen is going to bring massive power succ increase, I can't even begin to imagine how much more massive the power draw will be for Ada-next to be competitive against AMD using 2 GCDs or more
ashen spindle
meh for consumers its not as relevant as for enterprise
cursive summit
I think for consumers it should be relevant
Nvidia if they won't be able to leverage high enough perf increase from moving to a better node, probably 3nm, they will most likely suck even more power again
crimson wigeon
THE SUCC
doesn't matter, gotta have that RTX
ashen spindle
you can just take your design make it chiplet and suddenly its better
cursive summit
Like AMD should probably be miles ahead in performance and power efficiency by the time Nvidia reaches 6000 series
crimson wigeon
Yeah just slice it into chiplets pepeg
astral haven
If let alone this gen is going to bring massive power succ increase, I can't eve...
AMD isn't going dual gcd for Navi 3
It's still monolithic
cursive summit
That's not what I said
I meant Navi 4
I am well aware AMD is moving to chiplets but only single GCD
cursive summit
However chances are next-next gen AMD will have multiple graphical dies, whereas Nvidia is reportedly stuck with monolithic, again
It'll be hard for them to compete I imagine
Weird, AMD kicked Intel's ass in CPUs, and now they are kicking Nvidia
What a time to be alive
But Intel recovered, hope Nvidia does too, competition is wonderful
astral haven
Also anything chiplet can be made faster monolithic
cursive summit
Faster isn't power efficient though, is it
astral haven
Dual gcd is just a demonstration that AMD wishes to cede the high end to Nvidia and Target price
astral haven
Faster isn't power efficient though, is it
Chiplet is less power efficient
cursive summit
I am really scared RTX 5070 will be sucking like 500W whereas 5090 is like 900W just to compete in power
cursive summit
Chiplet is less power efficient
I have my doubts about that statement
Anything I can read up on regarding that?
astral haven
You need two serdes whenever you're going chiplet to chiplet
cursive summit
Serdes?
astral haven
Like how could you possibly gain any sort of efficiency advantage by increasing the distance between compute parts?
ashen spindle
nvidia had patents for mcm in 2004, if that would just be the solution it would've been done earlier
even for cpus amd said chiplets worked great for them but not the best for all situations
because its not the best for everything
astral haven
Yea
The mcm GPU war will be fought above 500w that's for sure
ashen spindle
do I want to see cool tech because wow fancy? yea absolutely
but I rather just see the best product possible
astral haven
My room is hot
The mcm gpus will not help with that :(
ashen spindle
put your gpu next to water tank, heat it up and power an ac that way
ez infinite energy
astral haven
I don't have enough room for a big enough water tank
astral haven
If I open the window, my room will be even more hot
ashen spindle
drill hole through the wall for the AC and put the cables into there as well 
astral haven
Hmm do I really need my deposit?
Yes
Yes I do
ashen spindle
and back to chiplets: could also be like amd now that the lower tiers are monolithic and thats all they had leaked so far
ashen spindle
yes I mean lower tier as in performance lower not numerical family
astral haven
Oh I misred you right
ashen spindle
so 5060/70 might be monolithic and 5080+ could be chiplet
or they do that for quadros or server stuff first only
astral haven
I really hope that 90 tier only becomes chiplet just like before
Make 3090 and 4090 the exception
ashen spindle
they need a new name
3090 ti exists now as a normal gpu
titan is a mess
quadro is dead
ashen spindle
well quadro is official dead, titan just wasnt used for ampere
astral haven
Suspect they are just keeping their options open
ashen spindle
wonder if evga are going to have to label their next KP edition as fire hazard 
astral haven
Just like the back of every Quadro?
And the 480?
ashen spindle
nah due to the power connectors lmao
slow garnet
Fuck GitLab. Requires an account for basic functionality (searching literally anything), and is a fucking JS disaster.
To make it even fucking worse, you can't even use the old trick of searching it via site:XYZ.XYZ, since it's not fucking indexed.
Even if GitHub isn't FOSS, at least it fucking works without JS and doesn't require an account to search for issues or code. Like genuinely, I get "oh well FOSS is important11!!1" but jesus, sometimes this makes me wonder if it really is.
I'll still prefer FOSS over closed sourced stuff, but not if it's gonna be like this.
slow garnet
I'm talking about searching on an existing FOSS repository on gitlab.com. I'm not quite sure what you're trying to say here.
shadow minnow
That’s cool
cursive summit
3080Ti for 899 ain't bad
shadow minnow
Yeah compared to previous price
So if prices soon follow everywhere do I get a GPU now?
Probably not but hmm
cursive summit
I still don't see 3090 being competitive though
cursive summit
So if prices soon follow everywhere do I get a GPU now?
Not yet
Wait for next gen, it's too close
shadow minnow
Just worried it will be like this gen
cursive summit
What
shadow minnow
With early availability
cursive summit
I doubt it, it'll be great
I mean yeah early availability is always first come first served
shadow minnow
- gotta get a GPU before hogwarts legacy comes out
shadow minnow
Already missed LiS 3 release
cursive summit
Damn those MIT people, a cesspool of intellectuals always inventing something
Few days ago they invented massive floating anti-global warming balls in space now they are out for semiconductors
cursive summit
On other news
Corpos are still ass https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2022/07/netflix-crackdown-on-password-sharing-now-includes-2-99-extra-home-fee/
Here's what happens if you take a good service, make it big and invite corpos to it
Literally becomes terrible, the cycle of life of virtually all companies
wheat plume
A good corpo is a dead corpo
cursive summit
A good corpo is a dead corpo
Wise words, choom
wheat plume
:')
shadow minnow
The 24-105 f4 cannon lens is f4 but the focus is so fast, it’s like faster than on phone, it’s crazy how instant it goes from far away to closest
pale sigil
Corpos are still ass https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2022/07/netf...
I leach my sister's Netflix anyway, if I lost it I wouldn't care to much since I use Plex.
The tracking, algorithm, some Netflix content and downloads are nice though
I also love the auto download feature based on the algorithm
All praise the algorithm
It knows me to well 
shadow minnow
Can’t relate
Same with Spotify or Apple Music I can almost never find something good
Maybe I am the problem
I mean sometimes it recommends a good series but it’s like once in half a year
chrome estuary
apple music was definitely garbage for it.
at least i had no luck with it.
reef patrol
Yeah... no kidding. The weekly discovery just throws more of what you listen to most at you. No variation or attempts to push you out of a comfort zone. I'm always forced to sit down and use the "song radio" feature on things I don't listen to often to get any actual new things.
chrome estuary
ngl, the best luck i've had for discovering music that's roughly what i like is SiriusXM
however the few stations i listen to like to repeat for a few weeks or longer of course like normal radio does
shadow minnow
I just haven’t had good luck with no matter what
Though acoustic chill Apple Music playlist is pretty good
chrome estuary
yeah fair
cursive summit
YTMusic has amazing discovery playlist
A lot of genres
And a lot of collection within those
Like it takes into account your most listened genres
And a lot of categories within them
It's really really good
fair gull
almost like collecting peoples data has good and bad sides
cursive summit
I don't recall though when I listened to romance or sleep music
cursive summit
That is fair
fair gull
and if u just listen to a song it autogenerates a list of stuff u will prob like
shadow minnow
I mean full manual is just more fun
But this Lens has so fast autofocus I have no reason to do manual focus and there is just no limit, don’t have to even look to what I am taking a photo of
And also zoom range means not having to change lenses though it’s f4
vocal cipher
Taking photos with this lens is getting too easy
which lens on which camera?
ok canon lens
I saw
shadow minnow
RF24-105 F4 L on EOS R5
vocal cipher
how heavy is it?
vocal cipher
I was thinking of tamron 35-150 f2-2.8 but the weight always made me not
it's almost 1.2 kg though
shadow minnow
Yeah the 28-70 f2 looks really nice to me but it’s 1.5kg
Which is just
A lot
But the autofocus of this lens is so fast
Compared to the non zoom rf ones
vocal cipher
but for zoom lenses I guess f4 is more than enough as you would probably be outside
shadow minnow
Eh I mean I wish it was less just less is too heavy
vocal cipher
yeah f4 to f2.8 makes too much difference in weight
shadow minnow
And especially to f2
Though that would be less range too
Still almost 3 times the weight
I wish all lenses were this fast, almost as phone focus
vocal cipher
but I am sure having zoom lens instead of prime makes you take much more photos
that's probably more important
There were so many photos I didn't try with another lens, or I didn't take at all because I only had prime lenses with me
so having f4 is better than f1.8 or f1.4 🙂
if you are lazy as me
vocal cipher
I wish all lenses were this fast, almost as phone focus
tbh, with sony I never felt like focus is too slow...
or felt the need to have a faster focus
and people praise canon focus the same or even better
shadow minnow
I mean almost the same but fast moving animals on 70-200 were pain today
vocal cipher
never used canon
shadow minnow
I kinda like full manual with manual focus too
vocal cipher
I only had that problem with sigma 150-400mm
but it's thirdparty lens
do you do bird photography?
shadow minnow
I mean honestly I didn’t use to do photography as much before, just my father does it as a job as well so has lot of lenses I can soemtiems try, but rn as I am back in Slovakia after months in uk I am trying it a bit more. I want to try bird photography next week since know one place with lot of birds of prey, falcons eagles and such, but so far mostly just did buildings and general landscapes
For which my most used lens was 35mm 1.8 usually
But aparently cannon should release 35mm 1.2 this year but the price probably won’t be nice
vocal cipher
1.2 would be a leg and an arm on rf line
at least it's something for life though, more reasonable to invest in glass than most of the other electronics 🙂
shadow minnow
1.2 would be a leg and an arm on rf line
Well it would be probably less than the 28-70 f2
vocal cipher
probably 🙂
shadow minnow
That one is like 3000 $
I wonder if the focus is also as fast
The ones that didn’t have variable zoom were slow
Or well slower
vocal cipher
the focus problem would be the weight of the glasses in that thing
I never used it but only can speculate
it's massive
they would need much stronger focus motor for it
shadow minnow
Well there probably will be a strong one but how strong
I would imagine the one 24-105 has is rather strong
vocal cipher
That's the thing, I don't think they would have a different motor for just one lens
that would cost so much more in production
shadow minnow
I would imagine the one 24-105 has is rather strong
Since despite not being as heavy it has like 17 elements or so I think
vocal cipher
it has their strongest motor probably but is it enough for f2
all I wanna say is it might not be as fast as the fast focus canon lenses
shadow minnow
Since despite not being as heavy it has like 17 elements or so I think
It aparently has a motor arround the entire lens instead of just being in one edge so that’s why it’s so much faster than basic ones
shadow minnow
all I wanna say is it might not be as fast as the fast focus canon lenses
Probably tbf
vocal cipher
oh, about focus motors, I am in love magnetic focus of sony
the lenses make sound when not used, feels like you can break it as the elements move when shaked
shadow minnow
I love the focus of this lens compared to any other I tried, it’s like magic, can’t feel anything moving
vocal cipher
but when it's on a camera, the focus is soooooooo smooth
you should try 35mm f.18 sony
buttery
shadow minnow
Well I don’t have any Sony camera
But the 35mm 1.8 cannon lens kinda sucks in terms of focus
It’s great
But only has a small motor
So focus is slow
Or well not as fast as this one
vocal cipher
is it the rf one or dslr one?
shadow minnow
Rf
vocal cipher
oh, I thought Rf would have been fast
shadow minnow
Well the more expensive ones are fast
But this is one of the lower line
So no water resistance
And only small motor
While the better ones have motor around the entire lens and some eating of water and dust resistance
vocal cipher
it's an expensive hobby, but we are used to that I guess...
shadow minnow
Well when you also use the cameras for work it kinda makes it more convenient
vocal cipher
I wish I did
I have so many interests, but none for the subject of my work
Banking - Finance
I hate banks
😄
at least keyboards are useful so... silver lining
shadow minnow
I mean I don’t use this camera for work but I also didn’t pay for it since it’s not mine but well it’s owner does
Atm just trying the 70-200mm f2.8
It’s 1.5kg but nice for animals
shadow minnow
No I am not 15 nor younger
And as I have mentioned before
It’s not mine
But my father’s
Who uses it for work
Not that I have never “worked” with one similar camera when more people were needed to take photos during one event.
But that was like twice and mostly videos/livestreams
vocal cipher
my father was a teacher so no fun for me 🙂
pale sigil
if im trying to execute python code to search for any jar file
am i correct in using *.jar
Right now im having to use program.py file.jar per jar file
surely i can just use something like *.jar to say any files with .jar
vocal cipher
surely i can just use something like *.jar to say any files with .jar
what if there is more than one?
ashen spindle
use regex?
crimson wigeon
The shell expands globs like that so the arguments become somefile.jar someotherfile.jar yetanotherfile.jar..
hopefully the script can take multiple arguments
crimson wigeon
Literally googled it Get-ChildItem -File | Foreach {c:\user\local\bin\myprog $_.fullname}
You could add something like "*.jar" to the get-childitem part..
pale sigil
i used *.jar and it did not work
crimson wigeon
"did not work" well gee that's helpful
pale sigil
crimson wigeon
You added it as a direct argument to the script
Dunno don't use PS much maybe it doesn't expand globs there as expected
But #worksforme just did Get-ChildItem -file *.ini |foreach {notepad $_.fullname} and it opened all .inis in the dir in notepads
final flame
https://youtu.be/Z_yDbrbdWkg
They're on amazon shipped by amazon if you care about the shipping time
wheat plume
Amazon estimate 4 weeks for me
final flame
damn
wheat plume
wel, giving me a wide ass range
cursive summit
And we're both Europe
wheat plume
reef patrol
https://youtu.be/KtJUI2zVh6E?t=595
This last story is just chef kiss worthy.
wheat plume
o.o
thick elk
I think if your system is this complicated, just make it a policy to replace the device and wipe it when fixing.
It's all network storage and logins anyway.
ashen spindle
I think gpu vendors should look into ways to sell coolers that double as AC, guaranteed that would be the most selling card
turn folding@home into temperature@home
shadow minnow
I mean they could work well in winter as heaters but that’s where it ends unfortunately 
wheat plume
Why is Plasma desktop the only desktop that can use it's cursor theme in Flatpak apps?
On gnome, it uses the default fallback X11 cursor despite gnome using a different one on native apps
shadow minnow
Oh so I was right what I captured was a falcon but it was too far away and I had 105mm lens instead of 200 at the time
shadow minnow
Some random flying butter from today
twin flower
u take that pic with the iphone 89
shadow minnow
It was an iPhone 90 actually
Got access to it a bit early
But well tomorrow gonna try it with an even better lens for this, 100mm that has 1.0 maximum magnification
Though I suppose it may not be as easy getting that close to the butterflies
Since well 30cm isn’t so far
astral haven
Right after making a huge deal about the phone beating my camera at the close ranges I went out and bought a standard zoom lmao
24-80mm equiv
shadow minnow
What aperture?
astral haven
2.8 ca
astral haven
Constant aperture
junior ore
@shadow minnow take pictures while you can, that one might be an endangered species.
shadow minnow
Hmm 380 is really light
shadow minnow
<@590931863951114260> take pictures while you can, that one might be an endange...
Hmm there are quite a few in my garden but I suppose less than there once were, what’s sadder is ladybugs, used to have ton of them, then Asian ladybugs came and now there are basically non
shadow minnow
0.6x magnification, 380g
How is it that light?
35mm static lens I have is 305
Though f1.8
astral haven
Well
It's not for my a74 I'll give you that hinr
shadow minnow
Oh so for some camera with a smaller sensor?
astral haven
Yep
shadow minnow
Makes sense then
astral haven
Still has 12.6 stops of Dr and 80 megapixels but is pretty insano specwise
shadow minnow
But probably not the best for low light
I kinda wish this camera was even better ngl
It’s not bad
astral haven
12.6 stops of dynamic range lol
shadow minnow
It’s not bad
But I really like low light photography and with 100k iso there is so much noise
shadow minnow
12.6 stops of dynamic range lol
Honestly I have no idea what does that mean
astral haven
That's actually probably better than your camera
And more importantly it can take 1 second exposures handheld without blur
shadow minnow
Mine is 11.7
shadow minnow
And more importantly it can take 1 second exposures handheld without blur
How?
astral haven
Sure this camera can't hit a million iso
But it has 8? 9? Stops of ibis
Small sensor can move around muuuuch more precisely and stabilizes alot better
shadow minnow
Pixel size though I would expect to be smaller but apart from that it’s probably better in some of this stuff. But ngl o never heard of steps of dynamic range before
astral haven
Dynamic range stops is the measure of quality of the camera
shadow minnow
Small sensor can move around muuuuch more precisely and stabilizes alot better
Well depends on how big the object you are taking the picture of is too
astral haven
Well depends on how big the object you are taking the picture of is too
With same fov and same subject vs full frame it's about 8x or 16x longer exposure for the same amount of handshake blur
shadow minnow
Hmm sounds good
astral haven
And photographic dynamic range is the most important spec on an image sensor lmao
Here's an 8 second exposure (f22 so ignore the diffraction blur)
You can see a microscopic amount of motion blur but that's 8 seconds handheld at 80mm
shadow minnow
And photographic dynamic range is the most important spec on an image sensor lma...
Explain what exactly is it
Oh hmm yeah it is important, I mean it’s not much worse on r5 but I did have cases of having to take HDR photos
Or well
3 photos to get auto merged
Mostly wish sky in background
Cannon EOS r is better at it aparently
Cannon EOS R aparently has 14.1 steps
Yet it’s way cheaper than R5
Half of the price basically
astral haven
Explain what exactly is it <:dogekek:846285268289323069>
So you have a light source
Then you place next to it a light source 2x as bright
Then 2x as bright again
Then 2x as bright again
How many of these 2x as bright light sources can you expose in one exposure level
And you have to use the same measurement rig and same noise floor for your measurements
shadow minnow
Why is EOS R so (relatively) cheap when it has so many steps?
astral haven
https://www.photonstophotos.net/Charts/PDR.htm
Here's the best resource
astral haven
Why is EOS R so (relatively) cheap when it has so many steps?
That's canon bs
It's not actually that good
shadow minnow
https://www.photonstophotos.net/Charts/PDR.htm
Here's the best resource
Hmm R5 seems to be high up on that list
shadow minnow
That's canon bs
It's not actually that good
Yeah seems weird that it would have 14.1
Especially since it’s not on the list you linked above R5
shadow minnow
Hmm iPhone 12 Pro Max aparently has 14 from what Google says
astral haven
Lies
astral haven
No
shadow minnow
And R5 is pretty high up with steps
astral haven
Photographic dynamic range excludes hdr
With hdr you get to add your exposure bracketing to your photographic dr
shadow minnow
Idk if the phone uses exposure bracketing tbh in the claimed 14 stops or not
astral haven
My camera does 4 stops of hdr in camera for example for a total of 16 stops of Dr
That's tied with the arri Alexa and Sony venice
astral haven
Idk if the phone uses exposure bracketing tbh in the claimed 14 stops or not
It does
Currently sensors are electrically limited
The iphone has a 12 bit backplane which is physically incapable of more than 12 stops
Generally capable of 10 max for a 12 bit backplane but the iPhone is more like 9 probably
Our cameras are all 14 bit backplanes
If you want more bits you need a phase one or hasslelblad
The phase one is off the chart lmao
And at the bottom there is the xs max
astral haven
The sensors are pretty much the same
shadow minnow
Not really there have been some actual improvements and ability to shoot in more bits
Especially for low light it’s way better than before
And the pixel size got bigger in general
More element lenses
shadow minnow
I am sure I have heard 12 pro max had a bigger sensor than previous gen
astral haven
Improved stabilization, denoising
None of that is counted into photographic dynamic range
shadow minnow
1.9um pixels on 13 pro max
1.4 on xs
astral haven
And my other camera has a pixel pitch of 3 microns
And that one requires cheating to hit 12 stops
Natively it's 10.5 stops
Tho it is 12 stops without hdr
astral haven
Unfortunately I can't afford one of these https://dsclabs.com/product/xyla-21/
The long story short is with current technology, medium format can do 16 stops of Dr
35mm can do 13
4/3 can do 11
And 1 inch can do 10
Anything outside of that rule is using processed images and thus is not going to be accurately categorized by this test
shadow minnow
Hmm R5 seems to be 35 makes sense
astral haven
Check the charts
There are a few phones in there including the masters of dynamic range, the old pixels
This time without the useless parts of the page
Photographic range by sensor size
halcyon moss
surely i can just use something like *.jar to say any files with .jar
you're using the shell here to expand the * the program will not get the * but actual filenames.
to actually pass the * use "*.jar"
ohwait, windows shell works differenly
fair gull
ngl id expect bash to also pass the entire filename
halcyon moss
d@K ~> cat test.py
import sys
print(sys.argv)
d@K ~> python test.py *.jpg
['test.py', '003f341b9589331adbac941397d54de1-large.jpg', '21efd851f91f72971553d92e38ee0d59-large.jpg', '235a26206db91bef75b5498a0f58fe57-large.jpg', 'b55c84c6247d1b0eefd3e9054ab2fdfb-large.jpg', 'bbc54c4a0c7e16a7fe30b5624070838a-large.jpg', 'f71d2782fba33957487101d9f3ff2535-large.jpg']
helpful filenames
halcyon moss
d@K ~> python test.py "*.jpg"
['test.py', '*.jpg']
ya but then cal has to code internal resolve of regex
fair gull
same same
halcyon moss
nooo
fair gull
yes
shadow minnow
It’s so hard to aim when you have 1.0 magnification but the ammount of detail is so so crazy
final flame
reef patrol
The painful process of unsoldering those massive switches is real feels
cursive summit
Surprising a talentless idiot with an unpractical item that'll probably stay forever in a storage container
reef patrol
No doubt I'm sure. I just find the process hilarious. I have zero idea who tommy is.
cursive summit
Well to summarize
He's the new generation of entertainers that think screaming into their microphone is funny
reef patrol
So a british poodiepie (the early years)
Lovely.
cursive summit
Gen alpha is fucked men, idk what those kids are thinking if they think that this is funny
cursive summit
So a british poodiepie (the early years)
Lovely.
Without the comedic sense, investment into the scene and anything interesting to add into the discussion
So pretty much pewdiepie if he was bankrupt
final flame
a pewdiepie if pewdiepie leeched off of all the creators around them
wheat plume
True
pale sigil
surely today we get dekcard news
You expect so much XD
ashen spindle
no im just on maximum dose of copium
cursive summit
It's about time for Deckard
Should be here any seconds now...
Any.. second... now
Although I think Deckard might not launch until mid August
Cause mid August is CS:GOs 10th anniversary
And Valve might do a stream or sorts, which they haven't done before
ashen spindle
hahahahahah
cursive summit
And I'm like 80% sure CS:GO is getting a Source 2 port
cursive summit
Fam every week there's more and more Source 2 strings being leaked from their update patches
New maps are being playtested
Existing maps are already even converted to source 2 engine
Too much coincides for 10th anniversary to be nothing
Also apparently they have multiple games in the works and potentially near launch
Deckard's a thing as well
I'm hoping for a packed full Valve-gust
pale sigil
Deckard leaks
final flame
That's very detailed
pale sigil
Ohhh
It's probably mobile that compresses it I guess
I use a modified preview mod on desktop
shadow minnow
It's probably mobile that compresses it I guess
Yeah
shadow minnow
That's very detailed
It’s an 8k uncropped image so lot of detail possible, 100mm lens, 800 ISO, f9.0 1/1000
Sth like 35cm distance not sure
shadow minnow
Physical lens on your phone?
Physical
pale sigil
Neat
shadow minnow
Idk if phone could do this but probably not my phone
shadow minnow
Very unlikely
final flame
samsung's default camera app is also garbage, adds a smoothening filter
shadow minnow
This is a rather high end DSLR with good lens
Tbf if phone had really small minimal focus distance maybe could get close
pale sigil
That image is still compressed
shadow minnow
But it would probably scare the butterfly
shadow minnow
That image is still compressed
Barely
pale sigil
I would have thought 8k woild be much larger than 6.7mb
shadow minnow
Jpeg version full size was 12mb
Raw was 50
But png is 200
With barley any difference but a bit nicer colors
shadow minnow
Basically no detail lost zooming in
Just since it was such an macro image some parts have no way to be sharp
This was already high aperture yet
cursive summit
Oof
I kinda doubt this though
Is 12600K really 15% faster in single theaded over 5600X?
ashen spindle
probably
cursive summit
I don't know how Ryzen 7000 series is supposed to be exciting
AMD's going for like what, 15% boost?
astral haven
7000 base perhaps not
But 7000 3d?
cursive summit
3Dvcache is exciting, definitely
ashen spindle
also nobody cares about 10% more if its 100% more cost
cursive summit
They might try to rush them out through the door just to get competitive vs Raptor lake
Tbf I do believe 5800x3D is very well priced for the best gaming processor in the league
astral haven
Launch this year of Zen 43d apparently
cursive summit
Well we'll see
But it does seem like this and next year belongs to Intel
Zen 5 better be good
ashen spindle
also its not news that zen4 is not a big improvement, that was clear months/years ago
cursive summit
Well iirc AMD also fucked up their own perf numbers
astral haven
But it does seem like this and next year belongs to Intel
By that definition, every year since core has belonged to intel
cursive summit
The increase was higher than what they specified
So hoping the ~15% becomes more like 25
ashen spindle
it wont
and they did not sandbag because I can guarantee if they had it the other way around people would be out here saying zen4 sucks and they have to use fake marketing numbers
cursive summit
By that definition, every year since core has belonged to intel
Well if Intel continues pricing their stuff poorly, it might not be
Intel did do really well against Zen 1, Zen 2 also struggled, though Zen 3 was a knockout
But Intel seems to have found their way out and are doing well right now
ashen spindle
if 15% is giving you an urge to upgrade
pale sigil
Well
I should be more specific
I want to get a 5800x but also I'm s little excited for the new Ryzen chips, if it's only 15% it can bugger off tho
Oh you meant 12th gen
I meant the leak, If it's even close to true I wonder what Ryzen will bring
ashen spindle
no zen4 over zen3 is around 15% most likely
pale sigil
I can't see myself ever going back to Intel
pale sigil
no zen4 over zen3 is around 15% most likely
Hmm :/
Then 5800x is most logical choice for me XD
I max out my 5600x a lot with all the shit I do sometimes and it's annoying
ashen spindle
since its on same ram and same platform more likely yes
zen4 vcache probably more for games
but then again youre not on 1080p so also less there
junior ore
what are you upgrading from to get a 5800x?
pale sigil
5600x
ashen spindle
junior ore
oh. yeah it'll be a step up but honestly the money would be ebtter spent on, well, whats going to be coming out very soon
unless you can get a 5800xt cheap
pale sigil
Not if it's 15% and I'd need s new mobo
ashen spindle
except zen4 means new motherboard, new ram
pale sigil
And ram aye
ashen spindle
zen is cpu
pale sigil
I may pass on my 5600x to my cousin if I get s 5800x
junior ore
okay i see, i missed where they said ryzen
cursive summit
Tf is a 5800xt
ashen spindle
doesnt exist
junior ore
I jumped from x1600 to x5900 lol
pale sigil
I considered making a server once but no point making one for the 5600x over buying a refurbished dell system tbh
cursive summit
Not in 5000 series
junior ore
i was thinking the video cards
cursive summit
5000 series topped out at 5700XT
junior ore
could have sworn there was a 800 and 900 but easy to forget that line honestly. I'm tired of my turbo loud 5700xt >.< plays everything i throw at it but too loud fans.
cursive summit
800 and 900 existed only in pre-5000 series and the current one, 6000
RX 580, 590, 480, etc
Will never forget the goodness that was Radeon HD 7990
pale sigil
A none boosted 6600k vs a 5600x would be a very nice upgrade for my cousin, especially since his current mobo doesn't even have xmp
cursive summit
hMMM
HD still lived as late as 2013
Polaris was cute af cards though, small but fast
That's kinda weird though
DX12 on HD series?
junior ore
before i had the GTX 970, I had.... some kind of AMD in the 8000 series
but i can't remember the number.
it had an 80 at the end
shadow minnow
Okay now I get over 1 magnification it’s too much even for butterflies
ashen spindle
where
ashen spindle
doesnt show it for me, probably because us store doesnt ship to germany
junior ore
aye thats not much a big deal
cursive summit
Is the U.S like taxless
Why are their prices so much less than ours
Or is it cause they don't have local warehouses that import directly from factories so we have to get it from U.S first
ashen spindle
what why would you think they are taxless
I'm saying that price is simply not having tax added to it
because taxes differ from state to state
astral haven
Yep
You pay tax on checkout
ashen spindle
because in one country you dont have different VATs
astral haven
😱 I'm so shocked how could that be /s
cursive summit
Europe does have different VATs 
ashen spindle
in ONE country
cursive summit
astral haven
57
cursive summit
So how are these calculated, by geolocation?
Cause the price amazon lists in my experience is always final
astral haven
They are per country vexx
junior ore
per country
cursive summit
So since I'm not logged on, it takes my geolocation then
junior ore
it pretty simple
astral haven
So since I'm not logged on, it takes my geolocation then
No it takes the country code
junior ore
i assume its based off wherever your billing address is
cursive summit
i assume its based off wherever your billing address is
I'm not logged on
junior ore
or... country code, whatever that is
cursive summit
Well fine
cursive summit
AUD = EUR soon 
reef patrol
Customer from Country A? VAT from Country A
cursive summit
I always found american prices cheap
Prolly cause it was VAT-less since EU in .com domain
ashen spindle
it is always vat less thats why you get the same few people every few weeks pointing out wooting being dumb since US price is cheaper
until you point out wootin is in fact not dumb
cursive summit
Fair enough
Thought that was the actual price
Might have even tried one of those relay reshippers, save on VAT basically
ashen spindle
if you want a lot of extra work to pay shipping twice to save 2% tax and hope customs dont see that
idk what millions you spend for that to even maybe wokr out
astral haven
Order placed
This looks like I'll really like it
cursive summit
What the stuffings is that
astral haven
Shame shipping is so long tho
shadow minnow
@astral haven what do you think?
shadow minnow
Pretty sweet
But isn't that underexposed?
Yes I like it that way
shadow minnow
Also you missed focus :P
It’s not that I missed it’s just not focused everywhere
Even with f13 can’t get an entire butterfly sharp
astral haven
:P
shadow minnow
And autofocus does sometimes have a bit of trouble with such small distance
astral haven
At f13 on my Olympus, everything is in focus
shadow minnow
Manual is impossible
shadow minnow
At f13 on my Olympus, everything is in focus
Well it’s about lens
astral haven
And even with canon lenses, the oly is happy to autofocus
shadow minnow
This is using 100mm lens at 30cm distance
It’s 1:1 to the sensor
So not much is sharp
astral haven
Yea I don't have anything that does 1:1
Only an actual microscope lol
shadow minnow
I also tried magnifier that made the magnification over 1 but that was impossible to focus
Or well
Very hard
astral haven
shadow minnow
I definitely don’t have lens for that tbf
astral haven
If you look carefully you'll notice that I missed focus too lel
shadow minnow
Also you missed focus :P
Oh btw if you just look at it in preview it’s compressed but otherwise when zoomed in the wing has a lot of detail
astral haven
Oh yea I'm aware
shadow minnow
What are these salt like things?
crimson wigeon
Lick it and find out
astral haven
Those are wing scales right?
shadow minnow
Hmm idk
I could try to get more detail with current setup but the magnification is so big I can’t even get a whole butterfly in the image
shadow minnow
More compression but wing scales
reef patrol
astral haven
I thought you were talking about background compression but you meant jpeg compression lol
wheat plume
You cant disable opening the Quick Toggles on the Lockscreen on Pixel phones .-.
Thata FUCKING STUPID
WHAT IF SOMEONE TAKES YOUR PHONE AND JUST TURNS LOCATION AND WIFI AND DATA OFF
then you cant remotely lock your phone .-.
reef patrol
WHAT IF SOMEONE TAKES YOUR PHONE AND JUST TURNS LOCATION AND WIFI AND DATA OFF
Not like they can use it either.
wheat plume
My friend got his phone yanked right from his hands while leaning against a wall outside during a smoke break
He went back in his work computer
Logged into the Google account and remotely locked it and tracked location for it cause he keeps location on
The guy took it to a phone shop to try to sell it
stark bobcat
If you notice, it requires you to then sign in...
Pixel 4a - I can turn off wifi and mobile data without signing in
astral haven
Yes
If the thief is dume enough to lock the phone, they won't be able to disable the location
Using the toggle on the lock screen requires you to sign in...
What
reef patrol
Why do you even have toggles or anything clickable on your lock screen anyway
astral haven
Pixel 4a - I can turn off wifi and mobile data without signing in
And you have it fully locked?
No watch keeping it unlocked?
astral haven
Why do you even have toggles or anything clickable on your lock screen anyway
All phones have them
Swipe up from the bottom or down from the top?
wheat plume
Yeh
It's stupid how android let's you toggle those without unlocking
stark bobcat
I don't have a smartwatch
wheat plume
Same
ashen spindle
isnt it more relevant to first see if find your phone still works with those things being off
astral haven
My phone won't let me toggle either
It just prompts for fingerprint
ashen spindle
wont really matter if you can find it with them off
astral haven
isnt it more relevant to first see if find your phone still works with those thi...
It won't work as well
wheat plume
Can't do that on stock pixel Android
stark bobcat
Actually helpful gonna disable that
wheat plume
There is no toggle to turn off the quick toggles drawer in lockscreen
reef patrol
Can't do that on stock pixel Android
Are you SURE about that
astral haven
You should still have camera or flashlight or something?
reef patrol
You should still have camera or flashlight or something?
Nope.
wheat plume
On a few sites
astral haven
Ye
astral haven
I appreciate camera on double tap power button and flashlight on long press
reef patrol
This is all I have. No drawer.
I use face unlock so I don't need anything on my lock screen. It only serves to help others to use my phone unassisted 
wheat plume
Can't swipe down
astral haven
Phone and blood type censored
Two arrows in the middle brings up notification history
wheat plume
ew
oh maybe you do need to unlock the phone to turn off wifi and location on lockscreen
idk
but the quick toggles still shouldnt be enabled on lockscreen, only flashlight shortcut really
astral haven
Eh it's convenient
astral haven
Phone and blood type censored
Two arrows in the middle brings up notification hi...
For real tho, it's a good idea to have your blood type easily visible
ashen spindle
I mean for 150$ I assume its limited in how close they can imitate it accurately
junior ore
honestly only good things can come from knowledge of blood type, far as I can see
misty saffron
“18+ celeb nudes” lmao
junior ore
also who the fudge just tried posting a discord link
ashen spindle
some bot
astral haven
is the designer blind
Can't make it similar enough to get confiscated by customs
misty saffron
you don’t have to make it ugly
shadow minnow
But I can't access the quick toggles
Can’t they just turn off your phone?
cursive summit
What is a good USB-C to 3.5mm dong that isn't the apple dong sub-50$
shadow minnow
Also I know that GPS works with wifi and dads off but idk if the device is trackable through stuff like find my then
shadow minnow
Why,
astral haven
Get the apple dong
cursive summit
I refuse to stain my dignity with apple products
astral haven
It's their only good product
cursive summit
And I don't care
astral haven
Support them for making it
shadow minnow
That’s literally like being a fanboy just on the other side of the spectrum
Idk how to call it but not buying sth just because of brand is equal to buying something just because of brand
cursive summit
That’s literally like being a fanboy just on the other side of the spectrum
I have great reasons to hate Apple for their shit
The same way I boycott Nestle, Kelloggs
I don't pick brands, I hate them equally
astral haven
Get the one associated with your phone vendor then?
cursive summit
I wonder how that Chi-fi dongle is doing
It was received really well, very experimental stuff
But now I forgot its name
astral haven
The chifi dongles are ok but not as good as the apple dong under like 80?
And for that price get a bt adapter
astral haven
That's a hundred bucks lmao
cursive summit
Did you see what it does though
astral haven
Btr3k is solid for that price
And can be used as both a dongle or with bluetooth
cursive summit
Pretty sure E1DA's one is superior by a country mile
astral haven
Well it's not ess garbage so it's already got the e1da beat there
And it's got 20db less crosstalk
Unloaded specs mean nothing
Also it's cheaper
cursive summit
BTR5 might not be a terrible get it seems
Idk if I want it to always be in the USB port
thick elk
I have both a btr3 and a btr1k and even then I prefer the btr1k for comfort
cursive summit
Huh HiBy FC3 is on flash sale currently
astral haven
The 1k is apple dongle levels of weak tho
thick elk
Also mainly because the 1k at least has the 3.5mm port on the right side
astral haven
Sensitive stuff only tho...
thick elk
it's strong enough for my uses so I am perfectly fine with it.
only got the btr3 when it's battery started dying not knowing if I could fix it
shadow minnow
thick elk
that adapter does not do bluetooth
astral haven
Neither does the e1da
thick elk
that's what I used it for, iems tucked under my shirt.
astral haven
I heard it was rather unflat
thick elk
a bit too expensive for my tastes at least but it's eq support is a great thing to have
astral haven
Also more expensive than the btr3k and gets slapped by the 5
thick elk
I wouldn't say gets slapped, it depends on what you value
astral haven
Only advantage is smaller and built in clip
thick elk
software side being better as well.
And I would call those advantages pretty big unless you really need a louder output or something.
cursive summit
I wonder if I snatch an iFi Go Blue instead, that should be pretty good
astral haven
But I really don't like ess sound
astral haven
I wonder if I snatch an iFi Go Blue instead, that should be pretty good
$200
cursive summit
Quality costs
astral haven
What you got that is that good that needs driving?
shadow minnow
Nothing he is just allergic to apples
cursive summit
What you got that is that good that needs driving?
Just looking into good bluetooth options
cursive summit
Nothing he is just allergic to apples <:dogekek:846285268289323069>
That will never change
astral haven
No but like
$80 vs $200
You can get some real good iems for that price difference
cursive summit
I don't like IEMs
Headphones is my thing
I have really good, probably top end TWS'es and honestly, I'd rather headphone
astral haven
Iems
cursive summit
Nah
astral haven
You want better sound that's your option
cursive summit
I need something with good sound, soundstage, imaging and build quality
astral haven
The ndh20 is good but it's only microscopically better than er2xr with good seal
You won't get both soundstage and imaging closeback
The only soundstage you get is from the audio itself
stark bobcat
I need something with good sound, soundstage, imaging and build quality
Buy speakers
astral haven
Lel
That's gonna cost way more if you want imaging
cursive summit
Buy speakers
You know, I'm looking for closed back cans for a reason
stark bobcat
Closed back ewww
cursive summit
I am already in love with my heads
K702s are seriously, top notch shit
I was listening to Tame Impala yesterday and the shit I heard was making my head spin
stark bobcat
I use sundaras and they ok
cursive summit
Just my closed backs for when I need to not invade someone's privacy are breaking
stark bobcat
I honestly prefer iems for when I am in public over ears simply are too chonky
astral haven
And really for the price you get better sound
It costs a lot to get tips, but less than it does to get good cans...
cursive summit
I have a few bias, comfort and medical concerns for why I can't get IEMs
I used to run nothing but IEMs for a few years, they always broke on me within 2 months
stark bobcat
Honestly idk any closed backs that I really like
astral haven
I used to run nothing but IEMs for a few years, they always broke on me within 2...
Er2xr/se + westone or dekoni tips
About $150 to get all the tips and the iem, then try them until you find something you like
stark bobcat
The only way I have ever broken any iems was using them while cross country skiing
Getting snow on them
astral haven
Dekoni is what I ended up with for my baby ears but the westone work better with larger ears
cursive summit
For 150$ I would probably just rebuy K371s or just try out DT770s
astral haven
For 150$ I would probably just rebuy K371s or just try out DT770s
It's $60 for the iem, the rest of the cash is for trying out tips
If you know your ear size it would only be $12
astral haven
The ndh20 is super good
That 10% better quality is definetly noticeable
Much better sound separation than the er2xr
Soundstage is still closed and the imaging is basically the same
If you can't go iems and you can stand the worst cable to grace mankind, then it's not a bad option
cursive summit
I find that surprising cause I saw some reviews saying the cable was not bad
Also it looks pretty aesthetically pleasing
It cannot be worse than HiFiMan cables
astral haven
It is the jankiest noisiest cable I've ever had
The coiled cable is fine but still noisy
cursive summit
Are you one of those types of people that proclaim silver superiority and only buy premium cables?