🔌│tech

[shadow minnow]

The aorus one was a pretty good value

Tbf Eve spectrum having a glossy option is very interesting wish more monitors had it, from well more reputable brands as well

Or well

Dough spectrum

[reef patrol]

Well fuck. Guess I'm without my bank for a month.

Just can't find any way to bring back the UI

https://tenor.com/view/bartlett-west-wing-head-desk-gif-6012433

[ashen spindle]

rip

[reef patrol]

I just don't get WHAT is broken.

Both apps are installed and running according to this app.

[fair gull]

ur bank is broken

[reef patrol]

wat

[ashen spindle]

not wrong

why do you need to wait a month for stuff to work again

[crimson wigeon]

Because login is all tied to a phone thing apparently and resetting it results in a one month lockout

[reef patrol]

Because to reactivate my 2FA* that's how long the queues are to go down to the council to prove I am me.

[ashen spindle]

oh god

[vocal cipher]

is it the same if you changed your mobile number? or phone

[crimson wigeon]

Seems like a kinda crappy system if there's no backup in case things go wrong

[reef patrol]

There is - Which is ALSO on my phone.

Welp - Not even google can find my phone when it's booted. So it isn't booting up fully. It's not just the UI that's missing.

[crimson wigeon]

So not really a backup then

[fair gull]

what phone lol

now im curious

[shadow minnow]

^

[fair gull]

oh

[fair gull]

i mean afaik u need to enter ur screenlock code once to fully boot

but did u try a usb-c dock?

for hdmi out and mouse input

[reef patrol]

I figure if the phone isn't even possible to find on Google, it's not booting fully.

Moot at any rate - Already in recovery mode.

[fair gull]

its not supposed to

my phone wont connect to wifi or anything before i enter my lock code once

my sony used to ask mid boot logo

and in the cases were i have to save customer data from no screen phones i use a c dock these days

works like a charm usually

[halcyon moss]

if the phone supports it 😉

most will do mouse and keyboard

[fair gull]

most new ones actually do in my experience

[halcyon moss]

but not all do screen output

[fair gull]

reading usb-c hdmi out stuff it does work on the 9 pro

[halcyon moss]

nice

i hope Mansen does not have to flash a rom and loose the stored data, that'd be the same situation

[reef patrol]

It's all gone. Already told ya

[fair gull]

i guess mansens main problem is switching to a new phone due to the whole app stuff to prove he is who he says he is

[wheat plume]

ye :/

[fair gull]

in anyway im glad this isnt smth that happens in germany

[halcyon moss]

well thats because germany is about 10 years behind in digitalisation

[pale sigil]

Only time this has happened to me was steam guard

[halcyon moss]

i was afraid of steam guard, cant migrate it either.
but you can just turn it off

🤦‍♂️

[ashen spindle]

10?

more like 20

[fair gull]

sometimes its nice that we arent all digital

[fair gull]

case and point mansens issue

[reef patrol]

For the record THIS is the shit that started all of this.

Over half of these can't be toggled.

[halcyon moss]

which one?

[reef patrol]

In my case the do not disturb one.

[halcyon moss]

what is this even

[fair gull]

remind u ur phone is in dnd mode

[reef patrol]

The most passive, aggressive shit you could come up with.

HEY - HEY - DID YOU KNOW - DID DID YOU KNOW THAT YOUR PHONE IS IN DND MODE? EVEN THOUGH THERE'S AN ICON AND EVERYTHING? ALSO THIS DND WAS AUTO ENABLED ON A PRESET TIMER!

ALSO - YOU COULD DISABLE THIS SHIT IN ANDROID 11 BUT WE WANT TO KEEP REMINDING YOU TO GET ANDROID 12 EVERY - DAY

[halcyon moss]

for me its a 2 line notification

[reef patrol]

I just don't want it - at all.

We've had the discussion before - And in my naivety I figured that "system UI" was an app that strictly spat out system notifications (cause that's literally all it shows in the app settings) and one quick ADB later...

[halcyon moss]

oof

i didnt read the backlog :p

[reef patrol]

The danish system for proving you are you for 2FA is something.

So - Every citizen gets a 2FA app (also possible to get a piece of cardboard with onetime codes previously) to use for their official state login. An email account, taxes, anything related to the state, councils etc...

NemId - Easy ID.
This was deemed not secure enough so they made MitID (MyID), which everyone is being moved over to in these months (which is why there is a month long wait to get an appointment for 10 seconds of "I am me, here my my papers, give me one time code to enable app with my SocialID)

So if your phone dies or you lose it, you gotta do it all over. MitID is easy to recover if you have NemID (Catch 22 anyone?), but if you don't you have to show up with a driver's license or passport (I have neither cause I don't need them), so I gotta show up with a birth certificate AND my social security ID card.

Since I've moved a ton of times I don't know if I have my birth certificate - So I have to call up the local CHURCH to have one issued (I am not a christian but they still control it for everyone for some reason - old system), THEN I can go to the municipal office in a month to get my one time code for my 2FA.

[fair gull]

maybe dont buy a oneplus again or put a cfw on it

[reef patrol]

If you've ever watched that one episode of Asterix where they go to the town hall, this is fucking it 😄

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JtEkUmYecnk

[fair gull]

"episode"

its a movie

[reef patrol]

If you say so - Haven't watched Asterix in decades. I think they cut everything up into short episodes here.

[fair gull]

there is an asteriks series

but that scene is from a movie

[halcyon moss]

sounds like denmark is both ahead and behind at the same time :p

doesnt danmark have a EU ID card?

[crimson wigeon]

What if you don't have a compatible phone?

[shadow minnow]

Yeah ur sucks, only thing I have is a very small icon with no text next to it

[halcyon moss]

No national identity card. Danish identity cards (issued by the counties) and driver's licences do not state nationality and therefore are not usable as travel documentation outside of the Nordic countries. (See Identity document#Denmark).

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_identity_cards_in_the_European_Economic_Area#Overview_of_national_identity_cards

[reef patrol]

We have a yellow one (without image sadly) similar to the blue one in EU

[halcyon moss]

and you dont have that?

what do you use as ID?

[reef patrol]

I do - But it alone isn't enough to prove I'm me in this case for some reason. (Cause no photo I imagine)

[halcyon moss]

ah yeah

silly system

[reef patrol]

It kind of is.

The main issue is that the state just kind of assumes you either have a driver's license (New York walker syndrome in my case) or a passport (not free to get and renew, expires too fast, only needed for abroad)

[halcyon moss]

youve never been outside of denmark? 😉

[reef patrol]

Not since my passport expired. And I wouldn't want to waste a renewal until I know I'm going again. It's like a gym membership you forget to use.

[ashen spindle]

so a modern system flawed by not great requirements

[formal vortex]

Shit is expensive, i paid like 95 Euros for a new ID&Passport. THey are only valid for 10 years each time

[reef patrol]

Would not be difficult to slap a photo on this. Like every other card in existence.

The real irony? Our national metro pass card does more to prove identity than our official ones 😄

[halcyon moss]

95, sure its money, but not that much

[formal vortex]

still annoying

[crimson wigeon]

And only once every 10 years?

[halcyon moss]

id and passport? thats a good price

[formal vortex]

i think id was 37, passport was 60

[reef patrol]

I went abroad in 19 just before Covid started being a thing. And my passport expired a month after that.

So... I could have renewed it and wasted two years of membership on it 😄

[formal vortex]

mine also ran out in 2020 and i waited until december last year

[halcyon moss]

i currently carry 2 forms of ID.. ID card and drivers licence

[formal vortex]

So does it mean you need a passport as a danish citizen if you move within the EU??

[halcyon moss]

it would, since a driving licence is not a valid ID outside of issuing country

[formal vortex]

thats bananas

[reef patrol]

That's normal.

Only the Nordic countries have a no passport agreement, and COVID/immigration crisis gas put that on hold now and then iirc.

[ashen spindle]

well, here you need to have an ID and that is enough for travel in the EU

[halcyon moss]

i can go to DK with my ID card

turkey even

[ashen spindle]

no passport needed inside the eu since our general ID is a valid id

[reef patrol]

Well ours isn't

Gotta have a passport to travel out and home.

If I had a car I would 100% have a passports. Cause I live 30mins from the German border. Cheap beer and soda

[formal vortex]

But thats what i mean, everyone else can move with ID inside EU 🙂

[junior ore]

That sounds cool

[reef patrol]

Good for them - I envy them 😄

[halcyon moss]

not jsut the eu

[reef patrol]

I've been ranting about our IDs not having picture and nationality for over a decade.

[junior ore]

Wait what

Whats the point of an ID without picture?

[reef patrol]

Well your credit card doesn't have a photo either but lots of places accept those for low level ID clearance.

[junior ore]

Legit some kind of Cobrastan passport right thetr

[reef patrol]

No no. We have actual passports. This is an ID - card 😛

[halcyon moss]

they do? where?

[junior ore]

Lol

I hope not at bars and liquor stores

[reef patrol]

They do not - Cause there's no date of birth on them first of all 😄

If I need to pick up a package from a courier drop off spot any kind of "ID" will generally work. Health insurance (National ID), drivers license, credit card, gym membership etc...

[junior ore]

Saw a video where a lady thought all she needed was a platinum card to buy alcohol and she was such a karen about it

[reef patrol]

They just need to see the names and address match up.

[halcyon moss]

you have an addres on you credit carD?

[formal vortex]

Are you from the US Bon?

[reef patrol]

And/Or. Name is usually enough 😄

[junior ore]

You know maybe Sovereign Citizens/Moors. Should try giving officers their credit cards as ID instead of the fake ones they always give

Aye, im from the states. Florida man representing.

[formal vortex]

Ok, because here, at least in Germany you would never get carded if you look remotely over 18

But cashiers can ask if they are unsure

[junior ore]

Ah

Yeah in the states thats a huge no.

[reef patrol]

Yeah you can buy beer here at 16 and anything at 18. So carding is generally not heavily enforced in practice.

And since you can get a scooter license at like 15, it's an easy check.

[formal vortex]

yeah same, only spirits is 18 if i recall

[halcyon moss]

im going towards 40, and ive been asked this year to show my id whne buying beer

[junior ore]

21 over here

[halcyon moss]

man that sounds fucking old :/

[reef patrol]

America - The land of self contradictions 😄

[junior ore]

Honestly, even by law they should, People just seey beard and don't ask for my ID. Those guys would go to jail if i was undercover.

You mean laziness

Like yeah. If they see someone obvious rocking a big beard or look 40-80 they dont wanna take time to ID. And then theres people that get offended for being IDd.

[reef patrol]

Though I guess I shouldn't talk - Current danish government tried to make sale of cigarettes illegal to anyone born after a certain date. For life.

People were kind of conflicted on this - Because what even is that kind of difference.

[junior ore]

To be fair cigs should be banned at all

[reef patrol]

Thankfully the EU stepped in and said - WTF no.

[reef patrol]

I'm all aboard for this one.

[halcyon moss]

i just hope one day i can enjoy my food/drink outside on a terrace without having to smell this disgusting smoke smell

[junior ore]

I think it sounds like danish wanted only old people, as in currently addicted people, to still buy but not new people. So next generation wont get hooked easily.

[reef patrol]

The problem was that it was basically a date cutoff. So you could have a classroom of 15yr olds where half of them could arbitrarily be allowed to smoke - for life based on their birthday alone.

[junior ore]

That sounds weird

Lets go with my idea lol. People would riot too much with a straight up ban anyways.

The nazies tried it to, to... idunno if it helped honestly 🤔 i think the soldiers were allowed to continue to smoke.

[reef patrol]

Don't get me wrong - I'm all for people's freedoms to do whatever the hell they want to their bodies.
But on their dime. We spend a not insignificant chunk of the national budget on lifestyle diseases that are a direct result of heavy drinking or smoking.

So you're not doing it on your dime but everyone's dime. :D'

[junior ore]

Yeah

The problem is its addiction shit

And its legalized and normalized

While stuff like meth and shit isn't

[reef patrol]

We spend another big chunk on programs to help with addiction. Both drugs and alcohol and gambling.

[junior ore]

Its all about the tax it brings

[formal vortex]

Germany is legalizing cannabis in autumn, we will steal all the dutch tourists

[reef patrol]

Only if you copy the Dutch system of being able to have your drugs tested for purity and contaminants. 😄

[halcyon moss]

please do steal the drug tourists

[formal vortex]

Probably, everything will be heavily regulated and taxed

[halcyon moss]

take the brits

and italians

[reef patrol]

Gotta give it to the Dutch - It's pretty ballsy to allow people to have their cocaine, ketamine and what have you tested by the state anonymously, so they can be sure what you're using is actually what it claims and not full of all sorts of filler shit that might do more damage 😄

[junior ore]

Damn thats smart

War on drugs was a failure due to dishonest misinformation about the drugs. The real info about them is enough to deter most people. How to be safe about it and not die horribly would have dine better.

[formal vortex]

like 10 years ago there was someone putting some lead into cannabis and people got really sick, they had anonymous testing and anonymous doctor visits for this too, so i don't see why they wont do it again.

[shrewd thicket]

It's smart

Reason it's illegal cuz it's bad for you but it's worse if you're taking laced shit so u prevent part of the problem already

[wheat plume]

is it bad to use a 30W charger on a phone that charges at most 18W?

[vocal cipher]

the phone would regulate it to 18w most likely so shouldn't be a problem

[wheat plume]

ook....

[vocal cipher]

but might differ from phone to phone, though any phone more than 100€ should do it 😄

[wheat plume]

this phone is very much above 100 euro

[vocal cipher]

I never had problem doing that, and i do it a lot

[shadow minnow]

Definitely shouldn’t be

When it connects charger should prowide 5V and only go to 9V after phone requests so

[vocal cipher]

it's max W it can output not constant output it gives

[shadow minnow]

^

[wheat plume]

if I send a photo of the charger I have, will you know if itll be ok to use?

[shadow minnow]

It’ll be okay to use it

[shadow minnow]

No matter what charger exactly is it, if it’s a QC/PD usb charger

[vocal cipher]

it's another android phones charger that you will use for a new android phone

[shadow minnow]

Yes it will be okay to use it

[wheat plume]

Oh
This can supply 15w it seems also
So just under the max speed

[vocal cipher]

but if you ever want to buy a brick for charging various stuff, look for Gan2

just an opinion no need to buy when you have a charger

[wheat plume]

this charger is so long

and I hate it

cause its a really long brick + plug adapter from EU to UK plug + the USB C cable sticking out the back

[shadow minnow]

No it won’t be under max speed

It will probably do 9V 2A

[wheat plume]

this one cant do 9v 2a

[vocal cipher]

gan2 is a newer tech that produces less heat and takes less space so if you wanna change it

[wheat plume]

only 9v 3a

thats 27W

[shadow minnow]

That’s the maximum

Phone takes as many a as it needs

Or well as much

It can provide anything up to that

[wheat plume]

itll be ok for long term use on the phone then?

[shadow minnow]

Same as your pc PSU doesn’t have to provide 12V 45A let’s say, it’s up to 45A

[shadow minnow]

Yes

[wheat plume]

mmkayy

I still may try to get a smaller charger

but not now...cant be assed waiting for delivery

[shadow minnow]

It won’t have any advantage but saving space

[wheat plume]

yeah....this brick is mega long

I had to re-arrange my desk slightly to fit it

Switch for scale xd

[shadow minnow]

That doesn’t seem that bad

[pale sigil]

Hol up

says they aren't the UK but used UK plugs

[shadow minnow]

My HomePod mini came with a US plug and an adapter

[pale sigil]

I use my 25w charger for my switch

[wheat plume]

I think it's cause the Irish gov care about safety and these are the safest plugs

xd

[pale sigil]

Weird

[shadow minnow]

I was ordering it as soon as they appeared on the store

So I suppose they didn’t have the EU version yet

But quickly wanted to get it in stock to fulfill shipments

Was a rather large store so still a bit weird

[wheat plume]

My phone came with an EU plug cause I ordered it from Amazon DE

xd

[cursive summit]

Don't buy the Pixel

[wheat plume]

I HAVENT BOUGHT ANY YET SHUSH

[shadow minnow]

Don’t buy Amazon Vexexa

It will keep telling you not to buy pixel

[cursive summit]

I will buy Amazon

[shadow minnow]

Only Amazon phone

[vocal cipher]

don't buy anything

[wheat plume]

Buy Amazon Fire Phone cause it's the best

/s

[cursive summit]

I will literally buy Amazon to increase staff wages and fire corporate

[shadow minnow]

Sure

Increase staff wages of one member of staff - Vex

[vocal cipher]

someone who can buy amazon would never increase staff wages

[cursive summit]

Do you think Amazon costs more than 100$ though? I don't think I can afford it if it's any higher

[shadow minnow]

Eh you should be fine

[cursive summit]

Okei good

I'll PM Zuck or whatever the CEOs name is and tell him I'm buying him

[wheat plume]

yes, him

not the company

[cursive summit]

I want the yacht

[shadow minnow]

You can pm me and send the money and I can confirm you get Amazon

I own Amazon nft

Oh I mean

Real Amazon ofcourse

[wheat plume]

Did this bish install ONEDRIVE on his Deck????

whats the cloud icon?

[shadow minnow]

I think it’s automatic on windows

Windows hates people

So it installs one drive

[wheat plume]

ffs

[crimson wigeon]

Yeah don't you want automagic cloud backups?!

[wheat plume]

elite haxor

[pale sigil]

its installed by default

[junior ore]

Comes with windows

I dont see the surprise

[fair gull]

lana is surprised by many unsurprising things

[timid dome]

how do I get the analog value of the function key on the 60HE?

from the SDK

[fair gull]

 RgbBrightnessUp = 0x401
 RgbBrightnessDown = 0x402
 SelectAnalogProfile1 = 0x403
 SelectAnalogProfile2 = 0x404
 SelectAnalogProfile3 = 0x405
 ModeKey = 0x408
 FnKey = 0x409
 DisableKey = 0x40A
 FnLayerLock = 0x40B
 FnKey2 = 0x40C

and leave it on scan code mode

the default

also #🤖│community_dev next time 😄

[timid dome]

oh, my bad. didn't see that channel

[fair gull]

all good

[wheat plume]

The Sony doesnt come with a charger brick either, got to check what the max charging speed is dang it

[ashen spindle]

or just use what charger you have with it

[shadow minnow]

^

[wheat plume]

30W currently

[shadow minnow]

Well yes just use that

If it’s less it’s not a problem

If it’s more well it won’t kill you charging at 30w it’s already quite fast

[wheat plume]

oh, the Sony is exactly 30W

perfect

[slow garnet]

The only real thing you should care is the voltage if anything, and if the amperage is below the minimum of the device.

[wheat plume]

uh

[slow garnet]

Ex: don't stick a 9v charger into a 5v device even if it fits. Also don't stick a 0.1amp charger to a device that needs at least 0.5a to charge.

[shadow minnow]

The charger has a pretty good range so really shouldn’t be a problem

[shadow minnow]

Well yes but with usb no

[slow garnet]

Yes I'm aware PD

[shadow minnow]

Which is well most chargers

[slow garnet]

But I'm just saying in general.

[ashen spindle]

in general yes, but thats like saying dont shove your m2 ssd into and usb slot

[slow garnet]

(laughs in not having any PD enabled device on a potato island )

[shadow minnow]

How?

About everything is PD enabled

[slow garnet]

Yeah I guess, but you'd be surprised how many times people killed their devices shoving things that fit but aren't the right voltage

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[shadow minnow]

Well yeah but usb chargers usually don’t have only higher voltage than 5V

[wheat plume]

Compatible with USB PD 3.0 PPS adaptors

[shadow minnow]

There are exceptions

But normal chargers tend to just run at 5V unless phone requests more through USB

[slow garnet]

Ofc. PD made it a lot easier for people.

Yeah QC comes to mind.

[empty wren]

Qualcomm Quick Charge

[junior ore]

Aye but most chargers allow multiple voltages. But not all.

Also, def make sure ( non usb based ones) that the cable tip matches the proper polarity cause that'll fry it too

[empty wren]

That was early one plus days

[slow garnet]

Yeah polarity is also a bitch as well. Especially devices which don't list the motherfucking polarity...

Twats.

[junior ore]

Yeah

[shadow minnow]

I don’t think I have ever killed a device this way but I remember accidentally for a time running a pc fan at 14.5V

But that was also well

Running it not in pc

Just testing arduino RPM control outside

[junior ore]

I always check the adapter and the device specs before plugging.

Learned it once the hard way and once was all that was needed

[slow garnet]

What's bullshit is that some devices run also fine on the wrong polarity, but not for long generally.

[fair gull]

its mage

thats how

[shadow minnow]

Well same but my memory sometimes fails
Or well not same, only with arduino and such, phone and laptop I always use same or standard chargers

[junior ore]

Doesn't help in olden times you also had exploding capacitors

[slow garnet]

@fair gull the only thing that I have remotely "smart" is QC enabled smart phones. That's it.

[shadow minnow]

Oh I remember hearing that electronically devices tend to not work well arround wizards, maybe same applies to mages

[ashen spindle]

by now I'm convinced mage is that one hacker you have in the GTA online heists that lives on his little island with the squirrel and thus only has some random assortment of hardware

[fair gull]

na mage just hates anything new and non arch

[shadow minnow]

Intel arc?

[junior ore]

Wizards are full of static electricity. It don't work, mixing wizards and widgets.

[slow garnet]

@ashen spindle As if I would ever play GTA

[fair gull]

see

[empty wren]

Avi Schwarzen or something

[shadow minnow]

Could we use wizards as a power source?

[empty wren]

We cannot sadly he is a fake wizard

[shadow minnow]

But he even is a mage in Minecraft

Which only one person can be

He is the Mage

[slow garnet]

Since when I'm a mage in MC?

[shadow minnow]

Since I said so

Since now

[fair gull]

mage is an old school nerd

probably still using floppies to update his arch install

[empty wren]

Actually I take it back

[fair gull]

cause the internet bad

[empty wren]

Mages are just gender fluid wizards

The more you know

[shadow minnow]

Wait now you are confusing me

[slow garnet]

[shadow minnow]

Wasn’t your ign in mc mage?

[empty wren]

Does he or she wear tinfoil too?

[fair gull]

Since when am I a mage in MC?*

[slow garnet]

Yeah that was a custom nick though, my original ign is cringe

And @pale sigil set it

[shadow minnow]

Oh, makes sense

Well then imposter mage

[fair gull]

its xXFireGuyXx480p

[pale sigil]

set what

[fair gull]

the custom name on the modded server

[pale sigil]

OH

[shadow minnow]

You assisted the imposter?

Shapeshifter in fact

[junior ore]

@shadow minnow too much a wild card. Just ask The Great Mighty Kevin

[fair gull]

u can dm me for integrity

[wheat plume]

Google are really good at hiding led lights and touch controls in places you dont think would have any

(The top of the google nest mini lol)

its got a fabric coating on it

[ashen spindle]

oh hey the latest windows update made my taskbar transparent

now to find where to disable that shit

[fair gull]

inb4 u dont

[fair gull]

did they change it from sort of nice transparency to the aero transparency?

[crimson wigeon]

That's not right

[fair gull]

ah not the blurry transparency anymore

[crimson wigeon]

Probably a bug and toggling transparency may or may not fix, or restarting explorer.exe

[ashen spindle]

that looks like win11?

im on 10

[fair gull]

because it is

[crimson wigeon]

Yeah but the same option exists on 10

[ashen spindle]

welll you see

[fair gull]

https://discordjs.moe/n2rl51eor0ln.png

[ashen spindle]

cant toggle it

[crimson wigeon]

omegalul

[fair gull]

is it pro or home

[ashen spindle]

pro but I dont remember if pro or pro n

[shrewd thicket]

Yikes windows

[fair gull]

Computer\HKEY_USERS\S-1-5-19\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Themes\Personalize

EnableTransparency

REG_DWORD

0

u wanted disabled

[crimson wigeon]

Or just activate, you cheapskate

[fair gull]

obviously might need to sub the ID

idk man

pro is like 200bucks or so

[ashen spindle]

hm still the same after restarting explorer

[fair gull]

thats deffo the key

[ashen spindle]

I'll see if its changes after restart

[fair gull]

i checked

[ashen spindle]

yeah it was there and set to 1

[fair gull]

na should not require a restart

i wish openvpn wouldnt be trash rn

so i could remote into my work pc and just grab a key

[ashen spindle]

ah wait there are multiple S-1-5-x in the registry

[crimson wigeon]

Just use Computer\HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Themes\Personalize

[ashen spindle]

that worked, thanks

[fair gull]

imma send u a key the next few days

[junior ore]

sips their glass of water and doesn't have these windows issues anymore using linux

[fair gull]

u poor soul

[ashen spindle]

oh I take these "issues" over linux all day

if all my issues come from not having windows activated that is a lot easier to fix than any linux issue I had

[crimson wigeon]

Just the watermark of shame isn't enough nuisance?

[junior ore]

Ill let you know when i come across issues worse than paying for your OS

[fair gull]

i wont trade video games for the no reasons

[ashen spindle]

the watermark that only appears after a few hours?

yeah I dont care

[junior ore]

Who said anything about trading video games?

My machines a game rig.

[fair gull]

id rather not worry about if an online game will ban me cause i use linux or not

[ashen spindle]

or if it even runs

[shrewd thicket]

People overestimate how hard it is to use linux

[fair gull]

no i dont

[crimson wigeon]

for me the watermark appeared pretty fast

[junior ore]

Sounds like a bad online game not worth playing of they are assholes that require root kitting your operating system

[shrewd thicket]

Using opensuse to its fullest potential I never was able to break it even on a laptop with Nvidia drivers

[ashen spindle]

oh thats not the case, I have ubuntu on my laptop as second boot os and a ubuntu vm for work for months now

[junior ore]

Yup

[ashen spindle]

I just cba dealing with all the shit

[fair gull]

i use enough linux vms and WSL

[junior ore]

Some people dont even try but restate 20 year old misconceptions

[fair gull]

aswell as linux for servers purely

[shrewd thicket]

But I switched from Linux to macOS as my development OS as I switched from my laptop to my 2021 MacBook

[fair gull]

i just wont bother as a main desktop os

[shrewd thicket]

Linux is the best desktop OS as long as you don't game

Windows is good for gaming but horrible for productivity

[junior ore]

Right and ive had it for some 7 or 8 months without much issue.

[shrewd thicket]

I could never do any kind of serious work on a windows machine lmao

[junior ore]

Lol

[ashen spindle]

cool so we dont play the same games and if it works for you that is great

[crimson wigeon]

Eh, not really.. even as I'm becoming a bit of a greybeard I still don't think it's super great as a desktop OS, regardless of distro

[fair gull]

ya the 20yr old misconception of linux being a fragmented shite community where i can google an issue for 2hrs and not find a single solution that works for me

[frozen ingot]

Linux best OS if you want to keep tinkering with the OS all day instead of working

[shrewd thicket]

🤮

[shrewd thicket]

Arch*

Any normal distro doesn't have this issue

[crimson wigeon]

Arch is giga overrated

[junior ore]

Its mostly i take issue by people saying that you can't play games or such or insinuate its some majority of games don't work or such. When, in fact, a majority of games do work. Except for ones that do bad things that they shouldnt do in the first place.

[shrewd thicket]

These sentence is very true about arch, void, Gentoo and distros alike

[ashen spindle]

nobody here said that

[junior ore]

Literally irrelevant to being able to play games or not.

[fair gull]

its not that the majority doesnt work but id rather not take a single chance

[junior ore]

Tony did

"Single chance" of what?

[fair gull]

send a screen of where i did?

[shrewd thicket]

I tried gaming on Linux for the longest time and it was decent but I still think windows is the superior os for gaming by a long shot

[fair gull]

some random game i want to play not working

[crimson wigeon]

Fact of the matter is, if you're primarily gaming on yer computor Windows is the way to go absolutely

[shrewd thicket]

I played rocket league, cyberpunk, fh5 and Minecraft tons on linux

[fair gull]

thats 5games

out of

idk

thousands

[frozen ingot]

microsoft sucks but windows is ez to use and supports everything

[crimson wigeon]

This will probably never change

[fair gull]

gee thanks

[junior ore]

I think you are just overblowing it tony.

[crimson wigeon]

.. well, maybe once all games have to be streamed it'll change

[ashen spindle]

• having to use proton or lutris or whatever might make it possible for lots of games but still ads extra step I'm too lazy to do for no reason

[shrewd thicket]

I agree, this is why when I'm gonna build my new gaming PC it's definitely gonna run Windows 11 but I would never install any productivity app on it. Those stay on my MacBook or a Linux laptop if I didn't have my MacBook

[fair gull]

no cause u see that one time it just doesnt work ill hate that i have linux

so ill just use windows

[junior ore]

Linux used to have bad compatibility because developers specifically made it that way. But tha ks to vulkan api, thats been changed.

[fair gull]

and start a linux vm when i need linux

[shrewd thicket]

Yeah right...

[junior ore]

Thats a you problem. And, again, overblowing it to the extreme. Take a chill pill

[fair gull]

so u dont use windows why?

[crimson wigeon]

It is extreme yes to want 100% compatibility instead of 80% (probably being a bit too generous)

[shrewd thicket]

Because everything sucks, to process management to window management to customizing it to fit my workflow to using the command line which I do like all the time as a developer

[junior ore]

Because its update system is annoying, you are forced to have features you dont want. Microsoft spies on you. They push Ads on you. And I can play my entire steam collection on linux.

Windows updates has in the past deleted entire folders

[ashen spindle]

stopping automated updates and disabling telemetry was faster for me than trying to figure out how to make games run on linux so idk

[fair gull]

show me evidence of that?

[junior ore]

Wi dows updates have broken things like printer services

Im glad you ask :D

[fair gull]

come on

[junior ore]

Give me a moment, been some years

[wheat plume]

Yes but you got to admit its got the best repos

[crimson wigeon]

Yeah and Linux updates never break....

[fair gull]

pull out that article where it just reset a registry value

[wheat plume]

you can find legit anything on Arch

[fair gull]

i really wanna see u pull out a dumb false headline rn

[shrewd thicket]

Windows is slow, sluggish, has shitty keybinds, the terminal is like unusable and even tho the settings app is massive it has nothing which truly makes windows adjust to me. I have to adjust to windows and windows is awful

[fair gull]

which was also fixed rather quickly

and as having dealt with it

[shrewd thicket]

Bahahah

[frozen ingot]

buy a faster computer

[fair gull]

i found a fix after 10mins and easily deployed that to customers

no issue

[junior ore]

@fair gull doesn't matter, they were deleted. Here you go : browse to.your content https://www.google.com/search?q=windows update deletes folders&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&client=firefox-b-1-m

[shrewd thicket]

Hope 11th gen i7H and rtx 2060 is fast enough to run windows

[frozen ingot]

I mean I run an older cpu than that and w10 isn't slow for me

[junior ore]

Oh yeah, windows 10 eats hardware resources

[fair gull]

see theres only 1 case i recall where everyone claimed windows deleted their user files... and it didnt delete anything just didnt set the right registry key to point to a moved userfolder

[shrewd thicket]

With a 240hz screen Windows should feel snappy but once u get used to Unix snappiness nothing is the same after lmao

[wheat plume]

Linux does NOT feel snappy on a 165Hz screen cause of the FUCKING SHITTY NVIDIA DRIVERS .-.

[junior ore]

@fair gull okay but point stands window updates arent currated so well
AND THEY ARE FORCED

[frozen ingot]

yeah but after you stared at that snappy unix desktop, what next

[wheat plume]

its silky smooth on AMD and Intel

[shrewd thicket]

That's the main thing which I dislike about macOS

[fair gull]

idk man i had 0 forced updates

[shrewd thicket]

The animations take too long

[fair gull]

i click install when i want them

[ashen spindle]

you know you can turn them off

[junior ore]

LOL

[shrewd thicket]

I love animations and I will never not use animations but I'd prefer if they were a little quicker, especially desktop switching

[junior ore]

After what, rigging the registry system? Micrsoft pushes those updates

[fair gull]

no?

[shrewd thicket]

I've had forced updates but they never bothered me and I could circumvent them because I always use Windows pro (definitief legitimately)

[fair gull]

u can disable updates on home aswell

[junior ore]

Maybe? They time you

[fair gull]

also feel like the registry argument coming from linux users is a really mute point

[junior ore]

Like you can pause for month i think

[fair gull]

for an os that lives by having convolute cli instructions

[ashen spindle]

I think in general forced updates arent even that bad since otherwise you have way too many idiots never updating and being open to the internet and are free to become bot farms

and if you dont want them its not hard to turn them off

[shrewd thicket]

Do u even know what desktop Linux is like lol

[junior ore]

Well how dandy for you, but, no when they have issues forced updates are bad

[fair gull]

sadly i do own 2 laptops running linux

and i rarely use either

[shrewd thicket]

Right

[fair gull]

cause both suck

[shrewd thicket]

U sadly installed Linux on 2 laptops

[junior ore]

I dont believe you?

"Sadly"

[fair gull]

hm yes cause u see

[shrewd thicket]

Probably running mint and Ubuntu of something

[fair gull]

if my t60 could run win10

it would

[shrewd thicket]

Or arch

[fair gull]

i mean

maybe it does soon

when the i7 upgrade mobo is released

and the other one is a dev hardware machine

meant to be nuked

and verify vm results on hardware

same for my macbook

it gets wiped regularly

[ashen spindle]

linux desktop is great
not when using either this or this or this or that

[shrewd thicket]

What

[slow garnet]

Windows sucks. The end.

Linux also sucks. The 2nd end.

[shrewd thicket]

When not gaming.

[junior ore]

@ashen spindle not great for what?

[crimson wigeon]

Everything sucks. The end.

[slow garnet]

@crimson wigeon gets it.

[fair gull]

u see we never claimed windows is the be all end all

[wheat plume]

ah yes, so hard to use /s

[shrewd thicket]

Damn head????

[ashen spindle]

I'm paraphrasing what sushy said here

[shrewd thicket]

Mint and Ubuntu are fine desktop distros

[junior ore]

Right

[fair gull]

i for my end just use windows cause it gives me less headaches as a desktop os. i use linux for my servers cause windows server is literal garbage and ill use linux vms or macbooks when needed

[ashen spindle]

yeah no dont think so

[shrewd thicket]

Not what I would use but grandma could easily do her emails on them

I would use Ubuntu over mint but it's just preference

[ashen spindle]

when I last installed ubuntu I first had to go to the command line because the app center or w/w its called never started

great start

[junior ore]

I never liked ubuntu

[fair gull]

reminds me of my first time macos experience

where it crashed cause i wanted to sign into the appstore

[junior ore]

It sounds like you gotten some shitty Ubuntu version or something.

[shrewd thicket]

Same

[junior ore]

But that doesn't speak for all linux distro

[ashen spindle]

it was the 2020 lts version iirc

[junior ore]

As was stated before : some linux you can install and get running faster and smoother than windows 10

[fair gull]

u know what ill never understand... why does there need to be 20million linux distros

[junior ore]

And some : not so much

Because its open source

[ashen spindle]

so before I can start I first need to figure out what linux to use, thats another timesink

[shrewd thicket]

I started out using debian sid, I always wanted rolling release on the edge like arch but with reliability from debian and eventually found opensuse tumbleweed and imo there is no more perfect distro than one from SUSE, they have both the best desktop and server oriented distros imo

[junior ore]

If you cant understand tony then get over it and stop being a baby about it

[fair gull]

thats not a reason

thats a cause

[shrewd thicket]

Tumbleweed is literally impossible to break if u know how the tools work which is pretty simple and all has a user-friendly gui too (although made in ruby)

[reef patrol]

Because no one can agree on what an OS should have 😄

[junior ore]

@ashen spindle oh come on. You make it sound like its like a slave job to do basic research

[crimson wigeon]

Eh, disagree, YaST2 is kinda crap

[ashen spindle]

given I dont even know what I would have to look out for, yes

[shrewd thicket]

Yast is fucking awesome. I've only ever used the QT version tho

[junior ore]

No its real easy quintosh

What do you use your computer the most?

[ashen spindle]

games

[junior ore]

Get an Arch Distro

Done

[shrewd thicket]

Yikes

Arch is hell

[fair gull]

😮 almost like they could work together on 1 OS and make it flexible after its setup instead of spawning 20million individual distros which are all their own os with their own quirks

man

[ashen spindle]

yeah no thanks

[frozen ingot]

the best OS is the one that does what you need to do on a computer

[junior ore]

Just arch itself, yes

[fair gull]

so temple os

[junior ore]

Exactly why I asked them

[ashen spindle]

how is it done if you say get one arch distro but not which, how should I know which of them makes it easier or harder to use all games, and for some I would still need to run windows

[junior ore]

Not how it works

[shrewd thicket]

Manjaro, Garuda and endeavour all suck @junior ore

[wheat plume]

ArcoLinux is great <3

and comes with useful things

[shrewd thicket]

Lol do u know Linux?

[junior ore]

I get why Manjaro can sometimes sucks, cause wait a bit for updates. But why EndeavourOS?

[fair gull]

no only used it for like what

[junior ore]

I dont know what Garuda is

[fair gull]

9 yrs now

[ashen spindle]

see, 3 people, 3 different opinions, how tf is it easy to figure out what would be the best lol

[shrewd thicket]

I've never used a single arch based distro that hasn't bugged the hell out

[slow garnet]

@ashen spindle it's simple: you ignore everyone's opinion and do your own research

no better opinion than yours

[fair gull]

that requires reading peoples opinions

[junior ore]

Because everyone isnt a robot, genius

[ashen spindle]

yeah and then its back to my point it's a time sink I could just not do and game in that time lol

since its not a quick search

[shrewd thicket]

I've had way more stable experiences with other distros that use more recent packages than whatever Manjaro does with their awful repo lmao

[junior ore]

Well, good news : mine hasnt.

[slow garnet]

true true, you already have an os

[junior ore]

Ill let you know if mine dies horribly

[slow garnet]

but i meant for people who never had an os. period.

[ionic storm]

and that's how we get people who think the earth is flat and that vaccines cause autism

[shrewd thicket]

Yes experiences differ, I just couldn't go without btrfs, snapper and zypper. Never

[ashen spindle]

then windows would still be an easy choice since all games run on it without extra work and you dont need to touch terminal ever

[fair gull]

guys guys guys i just found the solution

[slow garnet]

well that's not an opinion, that's just stupidity

[ionic storm]

there are most certainly opinions better than your own

[fair gull]

dont search for a distro that works for you

make it

ez fix

[crimson wigeon]

And now you know why there's so many distros!

[junior ore]

@ashen spindle except all the baggage tied to it that you conviently left out.

[ashen spindle]

ok but in what form does that baggage impact me

[fair gull]

yes cause no one fucking knows what distros good... quin is right... no matter who u ask or what you google ull get conflicting statements

[shrewd thicket]

I know btrfs and snapper are configurable for almost any distro but the default config in opensuse is just sooo good and the first party support is just the Cherry on top

[junior ore]

@fair gull the point is find what you like not what others. Jeeze....

[slow garnet]

Every distro for every job.

Each distro is made for something

[fair gull]

yes but if i google a distro for gaming

[slow garnet]

Be it making you suffer or just working out of the box.

[fair gull]

ill get 20 answers

and basically have to try 20distros

[shrewd thicket]

The reason there are so many distros is because every piet met een lange achternaam could make a distro lmfao

[crimson wigeon]

Not everyone feels like using all their time to try all the distros

[slow garnet]

Yeah. Guess what? Don't.

[shrewd thicket]

No?

[crimson wigeon]

So why not just use what's known to work

[junior ore]

And you could do the research for wi dows too? Lol

[fair gull]

come on then whats a good gaming distro

[shrewd thicket]

I only tried like 4 distros

[fair gull]

theres only windows

[ionic storm]

also kinda relevant

[slow garnet]

You don't need to use every distro to know which suck. Just looking at the distro's community is generally a good indicator of it sucks or not.

[fair gull]

windows 10 and 11

both work for gaming

[junior ore]

Mass ignorance said right there

[fair gull]

0 research needed

[ashen spindle]

what research? does this work on windows? yes is the first google result

[fair gull]

thanks for excluding context

[wheat plume]

800 Euro iPhone: 60Hz Screen
People: calm

400 Euro Pixel 6A: 60Hz Screen
People: PANIK HOLY SHIT THIS PHONE IS SO BAD AND THE SCREEN IS SO SLOW AND LAGGY

[junior ore]

Conversation going no whwre in circles, peace

[astral haven]

Watch the marques review
It's lagging at 60hz

[fair gull]

i dont need to research what windows is good for gaming cause theres only 10 and 11 both work

[shrewd thicket]

iPhone 60hz is smoother tho, it's a fact. Although 60hz is pretty cringe. Not even TV's are 60hz anymore.

[junior ore]

Just stick to facts. Not feelings.

[fair gull]

so now tell me a good linux gaming distro

[ionic storm]

because apple fans are brainwashed into believing whatever android had 6 years ago is cutting edge tech

[fair gull]

come on

1 answer pls

[shrewd thicket]

But tbf no good Android phones have come out after the OnePlus 7T Pro. Change my mind

Nothing phone comes close but it's a mid tier phone

I need something with the latest and greatest soc

[astral haven]

Steamos 🤣

[slow garnet]

How about the most popular distro.

Don't know which it is right now.

[shrewd thicket]

Probably ubuntu

[fair gull]

@junior ore u can make me and quintosh linux users rn

just get all the linux people in here

to agree on 1 answer

[shrewd thicket]

Depending on what the target audience is for the distro

Desktop, most likely Ubuntu

[astral haven]

I'll join

[cursive summit]

Nothing

Good

Let's not start

[floral temple]

Can you send A TUTORIAL FOR LUBICANT AND TOOL ? for everyone

[crimson wigeon]

It's nothing good?

[shrewd thicket]

Let's start, I'd like to hear

[cursive summit]

I already had a conversation like that today, and it was far too long for me to argue again

[ashen spindle]

tried that with ubuntu, both on my old pc and laptop: app center didnt work on LTS version so I had to use terminal after like 5 minutes each, cba

[shrewd thicket]

Tldr?

[cursive summit]

Flashy lights as main selling point and NFTs for good added measure

Too many reported defects, bad materials, dead pixels in camera amongst others

[slow garnet]

One sec, will respond after this round

[cursive summit]

Unimpressive specs amongst peers

Oh right 1 year warranty apparently

[shrewd thicket]

Cuz as a used to be big OnePlus fan, ever since OnePlus 8 it's been dogshit. I don't use oos on my 7t pro anymore. Pixels have been buggy. Samsung is bloated, has shitty partition layout which breaks rooting etc. Nothing phone has open source kernel, very stock Android experience, I personally like the iPhone ish design and the light is a cool gimmick I guess but I consider that extra at the 400$ price point, don't know anything about NFTs? But I don't follow crypto anyways cuz it's all bogus

[cursive summit]

It's literally on the product page..

[shrewd thicket]

Well I'm not in the market for a new phone so I haven't looked

[fair gull]

anyway as long as ill get 15 to 20 answers for whats the best linux gaming distro i wont try all of them

[cursive summit]

Like this should say how serious this thing is

[cursive summit]

As I always say, get a Sony, those are fairly nice

[shrewd thicket]

Okay they have a default app which I wouldn't be surprised could be removed that shows NFTs

[cursive summit]

Or, a Fairphone

[shrewd thicket]

It's a new company they have to market something, fine I guess?

It really doesn't impact anyone

[cursive summit]

Support the repair movement

But the thing is

New company, ridiculously effective marketing

Bad product

[shrewd thicket]

Don't think that's fair for a new company that wants to create a mid tier/high end looking phone

[cursive summit]

https://www.androidpolice.com/nothing-phone-1-dead-pixels-green-tint/

[shrewd thicket]

Just impossible

U can't do these manufacturing margins and make it repairable

[cursive summit]

https://www.slashgear.com/937748/early-software-issues-cropping-up-for-nothing-phone/

[slow garnet]

@ashen spindle And honestly, as fucked up as it is, you're not wrong in that regard. Why even use Linux if it's (most of the time) not stable or pain free unlike Windows? Then again, depending on how much you know on what you want to do, you might have to do bullshit stuff on either OS.

[shrewd thicket]

Yeah literally the first version of their os

So what

[slow garnet]

Ubuntu is trash regardless.

[wheat plume]

Phone reviewers: Takes photo on two phones to show difference in photo quality
Also Phone reviewers: Zooms into the image 99999999% And if you look closely, you will see a difference, which means this camera is better than this other one and that other one is a crappy phone

[slow garnet]

But yes, there is no one distinct "gaming" distro.

[shrewd thicket]

Yeah

[cursive summit]

https://soyacincau.com/2022/07/20/nothing-responds-after-users-report-dead-pixels-and-peeling-led-strips-on-phone-1/

[wheat plume]

Fedora FTW

[slow garnet]

Technically speaking any distro can be used to game.

[shrewd thicket]

That's how marginal improvements work

[slow garnet]

At most you'll see what... 15fps difference between them?

[cursive summit]

The fancy lights is literally the main selling feature of the phone

And they are so badly made they are peeling off

[shrewd thicket]

They gotta make a new phone each year to hit the targets 🥲

[slow garnet]

Unless you're one of those people who optimize the ever living shit out of your packages and stuff.

[cursive summit]

How is this a good product

[shrewd thicket]

Main selling point is good price, good looks, stock experience (and for nerds open source kernel)

[cursive summit]

The price is not good

[shrewd thicket]

The gimmick is cool I guess

$400 is a very good price imo

[ashen spindle]

once we basically have the LTT video series about trying linux and its working no issue I might skip to it, before that I just cba

I dont gain anything aside from having to spend more time on the os

[cursive summit]

It is a great price for a capable smartphone

[shrewd thicket]

It's a capable smartphone

[cursive summit]

But there are better smartphones than nothing for same price

Or cheaper

[shrewd thicket]

The soc is 5% slower than my snapdragon 855+

Which is a beast of a soc

[cursive summit]

Why would you buy this over Poco F4?

[shrewd thicket]

And it has great battery life

[cursive summit]

F4 is cheaper and has better specifications

[shrewd thicket]

Better question is why buy a Poco, specs aren't everything?

[cursive summit]

Not to mention, F4 isn't riddled with software and hardware issues

Nothing might be a decent brand at some point, but as their first launch, you are paying to get an average and disappointing at best product

[wheat plume]

6.1 inches is the best when it comes to size, 100%
Mark's Tech - 2022

[shrewd thicket]

The Poco might be a decent phone but it's very "asian" ish would be the best way I could describe it.

The design isn't appealing at all

[cursive summit]

What

[shrewd thicket]

It looks like a Chinese phone

And it is

[wheat plume]

The UI has that Chinese Blue accent color xd

(inside joke with my friends)

[cursive summit]

I don't understand people that buy stuff for the design and not for the functionality

Like.. it's a device that you use

It has to work

[reef patrol]

iPhones...

[wheat plume]

^

[cursive summit]

Nothing phone has too many problems

[shrewd thicket]

Because your phone is also a fashion piece? I don't care about fashion but even I get that

[cursive summit]

What

What is this mentality

[shrewd thicket]

I want a good looking phone.

[wheat plume]

Design is the only reason people buy iPhones

[shrewd thicket]

I think the S21 is a beautiful phone

[cursive summit]

This is where I end the discussion usually

[wheat plume]

My current phone is a beautiful phone <3

[cursive summit]

If a person likes something that looks good, there is no point arguing anymore

Different views on the technology

I need functionality and stability

[fair gull]

u understand me

[shrewd thicket]

No not really???

[wheat plume]

gorgeous <3

[shrewd thicket]

The design aspect of a phone can be just as important as the guts

[cursive summit]

I don't care at all how a phone looks, it's an added positive

[shrewd thicket]

YIKES

[reef patrol]

Looks identical to every other phone.

[wheat plume]

?

[cursive summit]

Functionality over everything

[reef patrol]

It's a rectangular thing with glass on one side, cameras on the back.

[fair gull]

the new sony phones look so nice

[cursive summit]

THEY DO

[fair gull]

also like that sony brought back headphone jacks

camera button always a plus

liked that on my xz premium

[cursive summit]

They never ditched them

[wheat plume]

can also get it in a nice lavender color

[shrewd thicket]

Yes well that's not how things work. No where, not even in mother nature itself. There is whole animals who are functionless but have a certain look or "beauty" feature just to reproduce lmfao

[fair gull]

they did

[cursive summit]

Huh

[fair gull]

the phones after the xz premium didnt have them

[fair gull]

its why i went samsung s10+not sony again

[cursive summit]

This is honestly a beauty

[shrewd thicket]

God damn, that looks good yes

[cursive summit]

Zeiss camera 😄

[fair gull]

used sony since the xperia play

[shrewd thicket]

You forgot ""

[cursive summit]

I don't get what you mean

[fair gull]

ure not stuck with stock roms tho

[shrewd thicket]

Can't imagine the ROM community is big for that phone but could be mistaken

[cursive summit]

Sony has a good ROM community

[fair gull]

sony phones always had roms

they even have a good drm unlock community for the phones that have drm locked features

[shrewd thicket]

Never had one

[cursive summit]

And you can just custom firmware, Sony phones are jailbreakable afaik

[fair gull]

yes

all stable

[shrewd thicket]

Afaik Sony runs stock bootloader which is unlockable with the standard fastboot OEM unlock command's

[fair gull]

correct aswell

[cursive summit]

Radios?

FM radio?

[shrewd thicket]

I've noticed ROM polish has gone down gradually over the years, there's still some golden berries in the pile tho. CRDroid 8.x had been so good for me

[fair gull]

havent had that on my z1, z1c, z3c or xzp all with custom roms

fully functional

[cursive summit]

https://developer.sony.com/develop/open-devices/get-started/flash-tool

Weird that Sony literally supports custom firmware

Typically companies don't like that

[shrewd thicket]

(there's a new update available just lazy)

[fair gull]

i guess whatever CM is now

[cursive summit]

Lineage is available for Sonys

[fair gull]

ya that

always forget the name

[cursive summit]

Is that the phone with the pop up camera?

[shrewd thicket]

Yup

[cursive summit]

Oo

I really wanted that phone when it first came out

[fair gull]

that idk

[cursive summit]

But it seems pop up gimmick came and went largely unused

[shrewd thicket]

I haven't switched because I love the privacy and the camera works great. Water protection has been perfect, I showered with my phone many times lmfao and I love the full screen

[cursive summit]

https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/rom-final-9-0-lineageos-16-0-for-xperia-z.3924175/

It does look like it's supported officially, no?

[shrewd thicket]

Popup didn't develop further because it's more expensive for less water protection. I'm waiting for under display camera technology to get better honestly

[cursive summit]

less water protection

This is why I want the new Xperia 1 IV

It literally has a headphone jack

And also has IP68

[shrewd thicket]

I'm never using wired headphones ever again

[fair gull]

tbf alot of sony phones do

my xzp does aswell

swam with it a few times

[cursive summit]

Screw you then

[shrewd thicket]

I don't have high end headphones but if I did I wouldn't just need a 3.5mm jack but the phone would need a dac built in and those are usually on USB c as well on newer phones

Well

I have high end headphones

Sony wh1000's

But not wired 😅

[cursive summit]

Did you just call those high end?

[shrewd thicket]

Yeah as far as wireless goes

[cursive summit]

Oh jesus

Wireless community is deranged

[shrewd thicket]

Right

[cursive summit]

I present to you

Proper hi-fi wireless

https://www.amazon.com/HIFIMAN-Ananda-BT-High-Resolution-Bluetooth-Full-Size/dp/B07X52DHH8

[shrewd thicket]

Ah yes

Cant wait to wear those at the office, in the bus, walking down the road

No thanks

[cursive summit]

Audiophile's delight

[shrewd thicket]

3s, was waiting for 5 until it was a whole ass different design which wouldn't fit in my daily tech bag

Now waiting for 6 or something ig

I might cop the 4s tho because I really need that multi device support

[fair gull]

also @cursive summithttps://discordjs.moe/jvd04076ap2b.png

[shrewd thicket]

Hahaha

I mean in clarity mode it wouldn't be a problem right

I wouldn't use them with anc on in traffic

[cursive summit]

Which phone is this

[shrewd thicket]

Right anc. These don't have it

Anc

[cursive summit]

Yes cause they are open back

[fair gull]

sony xz premium

[shrewd thicket]

Crucial features

[fair gull]

first 4k phone

[slow garnet]

@ashen spindle Question is, is people not wanting to research distros a them problem or an us problem?

[fair gull]

actual 2160p screen

[shrewd thicket]

Let me put it like this

[cursive summit]

Crucial features

[slow garnet]

Hell, a lot of people don't want to research stuff anymore regardless

[shrewd thicket]

Bluetooth, multi device, anc. 3 critical features for premium headphones

[fair gull]

https://www.gsmarena.com/sony_xperia_xz_premium-8593.php

[cursive summit]

My man says weird marketing term is a crucial feature when closed back devices have been largely silent for decades

[shrewd thicket]

Guess 2, bt multi device is one thing

[shrewd thicket]

U haven't used anc lmfao

It's not about how loud u make the music

That's bad for your ears

LMAO

No I haven't

[cursive summit]

I have my Melomania Touches

[shrewd thicket]

But I do wfh with a little brother who games online with friends LMAO

[cursive summit]

The passive noise isolation is enough for me to be deaf

Also I love the transparency mode anyways

But that's just Melomania

[shrewd thicket]

Anc is king, on the plane, on the bus daily, at home with other people around, music sounds better at lower volume and anc also improves your bass believe it or not and it's also useful in an open flex office

[cursive summit]

Yes I also like my passive noise isolation

But anyways

wAIT

Did this lad just say "it improves bass"

[shrewd thicket]

Hehe yesss

[cursive summit]

Oh god this is a Beats enjoyer

[shrewd thicket]

It's very interesting

No this isn't anything about more bass

[ashen spindle]

sorta? its needed to get adoption up, but would be easy once a option exists that just does what majority needs/wants

[shrewd thicket]

This is about tuning the bass to be accurate depending on the seal of your headphones @cursive summit

[cursive summit]

That they do

Melomania's one is amazing

[fair gull]

sushy rn https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lxycX43rr5k

[cursive summit]

Although neutral is still the way to go

[shrewd thicket]

What

[cursive summit]

Bass

[fair gull]

should i send a "bass test track"

[shrewd thicket]

Just go brrr

[shrewd thicket]

@mods he sent a wirus

[cursive summit]

He is a mod

[fair gull]

no im not

for you see i am god

[cursive summit]

You ain't fooling anyone

[cursive summit]

WTF MY HEAD IS TREMBLING

[shrewd thicket]

See a doctor

[cursive summit]

I did not enjoy that rumble

[fair gull]

is more meant for car stereos

[cursive summit]

Nah my open backs provides far more than enough of an experience

[fair gull]

https://discordjs.moe/blpuxy11fdik.png

14gb mp3s

just to test car stereos

[cursive summit]

Jesus

How many years of looking for music is this

[shrewd thicket]

About 3 fiddy

[fair gull]

https://discordjs.moe/pvhpmklxe5wn.png

14k total files

in the entire local lib

most of which are flacs

like a good 10k or so

[shrewd thicket]

Man downloaded everything on deezloader

[fair gull]

na tons of rips

my parents left me a dreamdance collection

https://discordjs.moe/hkgvzfdgndva.png

all volumes up until 81

each volume has 2 or 3 cds usually

https://discordjs.moe/t0x9h3o3jhqi.png

and yes dreamdance is the biggest chunk

https://discordjs.moe/nn1ylo49sqil.png

and OSTs are second

third is either two steps from hell or camilla

[shrewd thicket]

probably anime ost

[fair gull]

https://discordjs.moe/yh4eyw85t152.png

[shrewd thicket]

wtf is this

[fair gull]

4anime osts

[fair gull]

ure a newbie in the community

[shrewd thicket]

based discord

[wheat plume]

wait... the screen on the 6A is not OLED

wtf?????

[shrewd thicket]

its not?

it is right?

[wheat plume]

the specs say it is

but in videos it doesnt look like its oled

cause you can see backlight when the screen is black

[cursive summit]

Surprise switchout to a TFT

[wheat plume]

and the AOD isnt there

[shrewd thicket]

could be a cheaper oled more sensitive to burnin?

[wheat plume]

idk

[shrewd thicket]

also might be overhead studio lights

that you're seeing

[wheat plume]

maybe..

[shadow minnow]

I wouldn’t want a phone without OLED ngl

[wheat plume]

^

my current one is the only phone ive had with OLED and I LOVE IT

[shadow minnow]

But they claim 1 million contrast ratio so has to be OLED