🎮│game

[fringe salmon]

no that was not it lol

[solid bough]

scroll the fuck back up. you wrote what you wrote

[fringe salmon]

yes the misunderstanding was that I thought the guy on purpose only wanted to use the deck without external tools...

thats what I have been saying

[solid bough]

ah, now thats been made clear.

[fading spade]

tbf, he didnt use an external screen xd

[trim rock]

Why you sending the same image twice

[fading spade]

Discord hates images lately

Sometimes they don't show up in chat when sent

[bleak pike]

Peak gaming

[fading spade]

I'm just surprised they added controller support to this

[trim rock]

Come on upload it again!

[barren pewter]

AGAIN

also damn that’s a nostalgia hit lol

space cadet pinball, good times

[feral ferry]

https://store.steampowered.com/app/260210/Assassins_Creed_Liberation_HD/

Steam

Assassin’s Creed® Liberation HD

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2008

▶ Play video

Ubi is taking action

[trim rock]

Bruh

[feral ferry]

So

Do they issue refunds?

[nimble current]

word '97 flashbacks

[fading spade]

they wanna push shitty uPlay

[feral ferry]

Lana, no

Those games are phased out in general

[fading spade]

ooh

[feral ferry]

They won't be accessible starting Sep 1st, that one and a bunch of other games

[fringe salmon]

you already needed uplay for that game

[fading spade]

what happens to people who bought it on steam and linked their steam accounts to uPlay? will they still hav access to the game despite the account being a Steam account?

[feral ferry]

Which raises questions about refunds

Like Quin said

Even if you have the game on steam, you play the game through their launcher so

I don't think it's a choice

[fading spade]

but the account is a Steam account, technically, if you linked it to steam account

[feral ferry]

For me R6S force installs the Ubi launcher and you can't play it otherwise

[fading spade]

yes

but if you acess uPlay by linking a Steam account, then its technically a Steam account

[fringe salmon]

no?

instead of a name and password you just use the steam auth token to acces the uplay account then

[ashen lark]

… that’s so dumb

[feral ferry]

It is

[barren pewter]

well then

[feral ferry]

And god knows why they're doing it

[barren pewter]

install and crack on your PC then

[feral ferry]

It's not like those games are remastered

Yeah this is a classic case of why we should have piracy

[nimble current]

or why piracy needs to exist because companies are shit

[barren pewter]

it's pretty fucking disgusting to have a game pulled from a platform and NOT ACCESSIBLE TO THOSE WHO ALREADY PAID FOR IT

pulling a game from shelves, sure
making a game impossible to install and play?
fuck that

[nimble current]

the future of ownership is you don't really own anything

you pay for the priviledge to use it

[ashen lark]

Hope there is some lawsuit for that ngl
Shouldn’t be able to do that unless they return money

[feral ferry]

Apple loves that I hear

Soon you won't even own your phone

Subscribe for hardware

Cause.. that works.. somehow

[barren pewter]

then I guess I'll keep rocking with my iPhone SE 3 till the end of time

[ashen lark]

Is apple the one locking your cameras if you jailbreak?

[nimble current]

I think it was if you replace it

think it was assmung that locked the cameras if you jailbreaked

[bleak pike]

tbh at least it wont be for sale vs be for sale and not be usable? regardless fuck Ubisoft

Nobs

[barren pewter]

which is a little stupid but I guess makes some sense, to force you into their store

[ashen lark]

Yeah

[barren pewter]

pulling from the store makes sense, happens pretty often
the issue is making the game inaccessible to those who paid for it

[bleak pike]

yes

Just like Google blocking you for rooting.

[feral ferry]

I am hoping for refunds for people

[bleak pike]

Just, with Google at least you can fix that.

[fringe salmon]

I'd say the opposite, having it not work on jailbreak means they might just have software that doesnt work without extra info for no reason, apple went out of their way to block it even if its an original camera from another phone

[feral ferry]

Like isn't it kinda illegal to just pull access for something you paid for?

[nimble current]

other manufacturers are following suit in serialising parts

[bleak pike]

I know, im just saying it would be worse if it was up still when the change happens.

[fringe salmon]

both should be illegal but apple put more effort into it not working

[nimble current]

because fuck the consumer for thinking they have any ownership over the device they paid $1500 for

[bleak pike]

Probably not since you are paying for a license.

to access vs a product itself

[feral ferry]

We need gamestop back

With physical games

[bleak pike]

ngl, i dont miss physical games

😂

[feral ferry]

I'd love to have physical games

[bleak pike]

We have preservation at the very least.

[feral ferry]

Would just store it on my shelf as a showroom

[bleak pike]

I binned so many games

I had metal cases and shit too from past games.

All physical clutter

[feral ferry]

I don't think I've ever trashed a game of mine

From PSX era

Few I broke, sadly

Some I ruined

[barren pewter]

I think it's better to have them
means it'll always be accessible

[feral ferry]

But I still have all the PSX ones

[nimble current]

I grew up with floppies, CDs and DVDs, and I don't really miss any of it

the discs in particular am glad are gone

[feral ferry]

Idk my lad I like physical disks

Like I don't even have a CD drive anymore

But the feeling of owning the game is fun

I wonder where it all went wrong

[barren pewter]

I got one still lol

[feral ferry]

Games for Windows Live?

[barren pewter]

I need it for some weird shit I've had since forever

mainly accessibility programs from the late 2000's lol

[nimble current]

oh I still own a lot of CDs and stuff, but I just ripped them once then kept them in their casing

back in the day when you actually had to use the damn things all the time on the other hand

member the desk being littered with upside down discs lying exposed because I couldn't be arsed to reach for the jewelcases all the time swapping discs

[fading spade]

https://youtu.be/gZ3KB3mZUDE

😍

I loved this map

[fading spade]

Bioshock Infinite too hardcore for Deck

[solid bough]

give it a try anyways, or configure yourself.

[fringe salmon]

yup some stutters aside it seems to work fine on the deck

[fading spade]

https://www.eurogamer.net/you-can-now-pre-order-a-11-nerf-replica-of-destinys-gjallarhorn

[bleak pike]

Tbh the verification system is shit

[rancid hearth]

CBS

[fading spade]

:'')

[nimble current]

or let the creator/artist do whatever the fuck they want with their story/game/IP

[fading spade]

Parkour feels the same but also very different at the same time on bedrock Minecraft compared to Java Minecraft

The movement is roughly the same but with some sort of smoothing effect that's applied

[fading spade]

I WANT THE NEXT MARIOKART TRACKS ;-;

[quasi gulch]

creator has the same right to do whatever the fuck they want with their IP as people have the right to criticize it and voice their needs

[solid bough]

perfectly said, tynq

if someone publishes something to the public, it is open to interpretation and critique.

its a matter how one goes about critiquing and how to TAKE critique.

some people are going to straight up be assholes too.

but critique on something is not saying the author does not have a right to do X or such.

an author can make something and it can, indeed, be something good or it can be dumb and people will point it out.

[nimble current]

obviously, you release something into the world you subject it to other peoples thoughts and criticisms, and its fine to make suggestions or requests as long as people keep it civil over what ideas get considered or not

[solid bough]

exactly

[bleak pike]

Apparently this is a good deal?

https://www.greenmangaming.com/games/age-of-empires-iv-deluxe-pc/

@orchid prism

[solid bough]

why is the original price 80 dollars? @_@

[barren pewter]

SAME

I like the two cups out rn

but they really gotta start dropping tracks if they want to hit their 12 cups at the end of 2023 goal

[orchid prism]

Don't look at me. I haven't bought AoE since the third game.

[short plaza]

Breastfeeding magic would knock me out.

I'm weak vs mommy magic

[fallow bronze]

i remember in game of thrones a certain lady giving birth to a ghost

would that count?

[short plaza]

Yes, that's a gender specific magic.

[small comet]

same lol

new games are rinse and repeat anyway

[fallow bronze]

i played 4.. i couldn't be bothered to play it

it was very nicely done though

[trim rock]

START FREELOADING

[nimble current]

ew amazon

[feral ferry]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/elden-ring-barbarians-of-the-badlands-tekken-8-little-nightmares-iii-armored-core-and-more-seemingly-leaked-from-bandai-namco-likely-fake.606678/

Ngl does look kinda fake, especially that Elden Ring DLC name

[fringe salmon]

ehh could be a working name internally or real, you never know with myazaki

[solid bough]

i hear The Breakers will finally get to the action fo the side characters which are important too.

surprised at another DBX

[solid bough]

Hey so someone just discovered something amazing for Doom 2

apparently there exists a memory exploit that at first appears to just manipulate textures visually but it opens up to code injection methods.

So someone was crazy enough to make Doom2, on DOS, run Doom (chocolate)

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/218500329459679252/996454687391879248/unknown.png

[orchid prism]

So you mean to say they made Doom play... Doom.

Doom truly does run on anything.

[solid bough]

yes lol

Doom2 specifically*

you can also use it to play Hexen and probably other WAD games

https://youtu.be/c6hnQ1RKhbo

[feral ferry]

https://www.pcgamer.com/company-of-heroes-3-is-coming-on-november-17-along-with-two-very-different-campaigns

[feral ferry]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b6hyGafV8_g

Ooo

I liked Warriors Orochi a lot

[solid bough]

is company of heroes 3 going to be a horrible grindy locked content fest like 2 was?

2 had such great promise but was locked behind in both DLC and annoying online services skinner boxing

[feral ferry]

Probably

They are aiming for esports, for whatever reason

[solid bough]

it looks like trash already.

its like needs a chart

got Company of Heroes

Company of heroes Digital Deluxe

[feral ferry]

That's why there isn't any better WW2 RTS than Men of War

[solid bough]

Digital Deluxe Premium

don't see any gameplay, unless its in the second trailer which wont load for me.

[trim rock]

They've been doing that open dev thing so there's probably a lot of gameplays floating around

[solid bough]

oh?

am curious then. though work net not so good at videos

[fading spade]

NeverSoft
AlwaysHard

[fringe salmon]

I assume that’s some game given the channel it’s in

[fading spade]

modern warfare 3

[nimble current]

modern warfare 3: ukranian boogaloo

[bleak pike]

FINALLY

I did it

After so much struggle

Omg that felt so good

Finally beat this fucker on the hardest difficulty (Jedi fallen order spoilers)

On the deck too

[feral ferry]

https://gbatemp.net/threads/e3-2023-will-be-run-by-reedpop-organizer-of-pax-and-new-york-comic-con.615237/

[bleak pike]

I had to leave my deck on overnight to transfer god of war to my SD x.x

[solid bough]

Why the hell is it that big

[bleak pike]

SD max write is 25mb/s

[solid bough]

Oof

[fading spade]

still faster than my WIFI

mym wifi maxes out at 6

and doesnt stay at 6 very long

or often .-.

[wheat kraken]

@bleak pike yeah i tried to transfer god of war from an SSD to the main storage and gave up after like 10min of waiting

[bleak pike]

Hahah, I don't blame!

Pro tip

Run desktop mode

It'll dim and display goes off

[wheat kraken]

yeah i did that to download brutal legend

my internet is god awful and it takes forever to download anything

[bleak pike]

Opposite for me but I'm capped because of the sd

[bleak pike]

Tbe fuck, steam is taking ages to discover/validate my game lol

Hmm I wonder if the cable is bottleknecking read speed

[solid bough]

did you accidentally get some 20-40 year old ethernet cable?

[solid bough]

check your cat

[bleak pike]

Not Ethernet :p

[solid bough]

i thought you said cable

my brain went to ethernet cable >.>

[bleak pike]

Ye USB C cable

[solid bough]

oh

what USB port did you plug it into?

[bleak pike]

The one I'm using might only be rated for charging

[solid bough]

ah

that wouldn't help, yeah

[bleak pike]

Hmm, it says 480mb/s

Strange

Basically I'm running windows off external ssd

I'll let it finish validating

[fringe salmon]

wonder if it's just a power limitation so it cant validate faster due do power limit because it's also charging or so

[fading spade]

This is hypocritical

GPD went on multiple rants and misinformation campaigns to try to make people believe the steam deck is a piece of shit and that their handhelds are better

And now they want to use SteamOS

[solid bough]

Aye and its hilarous

Valve has no fears and no fucks, except lawsuits from Australia

[fading spade]

Huh?

Lawsuits?

[solid bough]

The reason Steam has a refund policy instead of none is because they lost a lawsuit.

[fringe salmon]

and yet gpd might sell their devices with steamos on steam store later this year even

[solid bough]

In the steam store?

[fringe salmon]

thats what I wrote yes

[solid bough]

Holy shit, they are willing to lose a cut of profit from their device?

[bleak pike]

Yup it's the wire

[fringe salmon]

we dont know if they would have to take a cut

its hardly a game that they are selling after all

[bleak pike]

@fading spade probably because people are already running it on their GPDs

HoloISO

[solid bough]

Valve always takes a cut 😎 applies a little of that white line on the table

[fringe salmon]

might not be in valves interrest to take a cut if they want to get more steamos devices out

[solid bough]

The goal is t to push SteamOS. And besides thats easy to do once they feel normal desktop version is ready to be distributed

They are busy atm making sure "mobile" version doesnt crash and burn

Goal isn't *

[fringe salmon]

ehh idk might very well be a goal to push steam os handhelds to have more devices that work with deckard for example

[solid bough]

And they already selling at a loss, with complete overload in orders. They can host this competitor, get thek ru ning good, and take a tenner from them for helping push them.

That goal doesn't make sense.

Like, they dont need to be top popular distro or some such

They dont need to drive for donations to develope the distro

[fringe salmon]

could very well be a goal to do what meta does with the quest 2 but with steamos/handhelds/deckard etc.

get people into your eco system and be the #1 vendor

[bleak pike]

I just think they wanna Kickstart the market

[fringe salmon]

will make more than you lose from losing out on hardware at the start

[bleak pike]

They said the same with original steam box tbing

[solid bough]

"With what meta does" as in what exactly?

[fringe salmon]

selling the quest at a loss to get get it to more people

[solid bough]

Steam already has shitloads in its ecosystem

Its ecosystem is already dominant number 1

So thats not the goal

[fringe salmon]

yeah and resting on what they have won't keep them there for AR/handheld gaming

[solid bough]

@bleak pike thats exactly its, its kicking up a long dead market and bringing life into it

[bleak pike]

Dead? Never really began

[nimble current]

valve can afford to take some losses selling the hardware initially to get the platform rolling

[solid bough]

The UMPC market existed before

But its been like over 15 years

And longer for a lot of even smaller companies and niche machines

[fringe salmon]

yeah but the XR market is just at the beginning

[solid bough]

XR?

Im talking :

Ultra Mobile Personal Computer

[fringe salmon]

I know

I'm talking about a market that is part of the reason why they are investing into deck/deckard/steamos

[solid bough]

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/b/b2/Wibrain_B1_UMPC.jpg

Look at dat vista

Anyways : whats XR?

[fringe salmon]

mixed reality

AR/VR

[solid bough]

Thats AR

[fringe salmon]

no, thats augmented

[solid bough]

How do you mix the two?

You kinda just have... one or the other.

[fringe salmon]

https://developer.oculus.com/blog/mixed-reality-with-passthrough/?locale=de_DE

you have a vr headset that uses cameras to project the room etc.

[solid bough]

Ah i see

[bleak pike]

Double checked, time to buy a new cable

[solid bough]

There needs to be a proper AR market first, not there yet. VR just finished walking in strong. Once AR comes in strong, then XR can.

[fringe salmon]

quite the opposite

AR alone is much harder to do since you can replace features with VR stuff so you dont need to have perfect hand tracking or all that

[solid bough]

You have to have the AR to do the XR :V

Otherwise its

Just opacity...

If you dont have the tracking then its not AR, it wouldnt be Mixed

[fringe salmon]

the cameras isn't the issue and you can fill that into vr apps easier than just having glasses that only overlay stuff via AR

[solid bough]

Then its a hud. Not AR. AR is about using elements outside of its hardware to create interaction that otherwise isn't there.

[fringe salmon]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lvJ1WmWYCdE

[fading spade]

So uh
Unity Engine are apparently teaming up with IronSource to embed ads into the Engine editor

Isnt IronSource that company who have malware in the ads? .-.

[fringe salmon]

unity is merging with ironsources to offer that as a package like they already to with the Unity Ads system

[fading spade]

So, what does that mean for the end user?

[fringe salmon]

nothing

[fading spade]

so...no ads embedded into the UI?

[fringe salmon]

where did you get that from

[fading spade]

I Looked up IronSource, saw they are an ad company and just assumed they would show up in the UI

[fringe salmon]

bruh

[fading spade]

We are getting ads on the lockscreen on Android pretty soon, so id not be surprised

.-.

but...does it mean all your data will be collected now?

[fringe salmon]

what

[fading spade]

with this unity thing

[fringe salmon]

I really have no clue how you get to come of your thoughts

this is a merger so devs using unity have ironsource as an option to use it in their apps

[fading spade]

oh, its a service to embed into apps you create with Unity?

[fringe salmon]

https://www.businesswire.com/news/home/20220713005473/en/Unity-Announces-Merger-Agreement-with-ironSource

[fading spade]

IronSource are from Isreal, interesting

[fringe salmon]

it will do the same as the about 20 or so other companies/products that unity acquired

[solid bough]

The pr9blem is right there. Saying the words "just assumed".

Just, dont do that. Assumptions are bad.

You know how google has ad services on the side or in some mobile games?

Its that.

[fading spade]

yep

[jovial coral]

Are we?

[orchid prism]

Well in theory - I am sure the EU have things to say about it.

[jovial coral]

If that is the case I might actually switch to apple

That isn't something I'll tolerate

[fading spade]

Google teamed up with Glance to provide lock screen ads
They take over the lockscreen so you can't even see the time and notifications until you dismiss the ad

[fallow bronze]

if that happens the app will be insta uninstalled

[solid bough]

@fading spade i looked into it more : yeah that is indeed the company that installs malware ( adware ) and isnt needed as unity has their own game ad stuff anyways

[fringe salmon]

yeah but what they have is pretty poo

[solid bough]

They can find a way that doesnt ruin their company's and products name and quality AND without putting fear that both developers and users might get adware through a unity game

[fringe salmon]

you were able to use that in a unity game before the merger and will be able to not include it after the merger still

[solid bough]

No

Im talking

Literal adware

Not normal ads

[fringe salmon]

yes I am talking about you were able to use ironsource before this and will be able to not use it afterwards still...

[solid bough]

Unity had ironsource before?

Why are people going on about it as if its the first time then?

[fringe salmon]

no but you can use something without it being part of the company...

[solid bough]

Thats what i was asking

I didnt mean had as in own

[fringe salmon]

unity "has" everything then since you can use whatever

[solid bough]

Also the "disable it" doesnt apply to users.

[fringe salmon]

it applies the same way as if I were to include it in my app today, that doesn't change from this

[solid bough]

.... i meant officially you donk.

Built in by default

[fringe salmon]

so for users you users of unity not enduser

I cant see the future but I doubt thats the case either since that would be the opposite of how they just reworked the entire package system

[solid bough]

I was asking if unity had prior used software or aich from ironsourse before

[fringe salmon]

to gather data from users using the editor?

[solid bough]

Its fine if Unity got some software from them and that it wasnt a malicious ad platform for their engine

Its another to gain employees whom have no qualms or ethics to create malware

To distribute to people

[fringe salmon]

if I were cynical I could say that we dont know if the people already working at unity aren't having even lower moral standards ¯_(ツ)_/¯

but thats a whole different point then if its about the employees not about the software

[solid bough]

Its people that make the software

I dont see how you can disconnect that.

[fringe salmon]

people not having issue making something nefarious doesnt mean they are only capable of doing something nefarious

[solid bough]

My brain isn't able to read that.

[fringe salmon]

ok other question, what changes do you think come from this

[solid bough]

From what exactly? The merger?

[fringe salmon]

yes

[solid bough]

A larger concern of people within the company than previously.

[feral ferry]

https://www.videogameschronicle.com/news/sony-pulls-dino-crisis-and-ridge-racer-2-playstation-plus-listings/

I want a Dino Crisis game

But I don't believe we're getting one anytime this half of the decade

Maybe towards the later half

[fading spade]

https://youtu.be/uFN-OHjmlKk

Oh

[fringe salmon]

thanks for linking something with 0 new information

[orchid prism]

Noose to me.

[small comet]

so we all just making clickbait speculative vids now?

[fringe salmon]

this makes me feel like talking about epic games again.. I dont think unity should have merged with ironsource nor do I think I'll ever make use of it but the instant jump to "now unity games come with malware" is just braindead

[small comet]

u know

the same way every app is spyware cause they could use googles permissiom system to ask for dialer or storage access

doesnt matter if its done or not

the possibility means everythings evil

[ashen lark]

So everyone is a killer because they can kill someone

[small comet]

thats basically the argument being made

[ashen lark]

So everyone is an imposter

[small comet]

also didnt ironsource exist for unity even before the merger?

[fringe salmon]

probably

maybe not as a direct plugin but its not like you can only use it if its hardwired into your app

[small comet]

so itll be a bit easier to use

cool

so whats the bad thing again

[fringe salmon]

well there might be issues with unitys ceo and the handling of the company in general but that's not really what people are talking about when looking at this latest merger

[small comet]

all i see in the merger is people get a new tool if they wanna use it

unless i missed the part where everyone has to use it

[fading spade]

https://youtu.be/eLKKpED0Ysw

Its a controller for DenshaDa Go

[solid bough]

I feel like screaming because I am hearing how Runefactory 5 isn't doing so well for Proton compatibility aaaaa

[feral ferry]

https://www.theverge.com/2022/7/14/23214706/nintendo-dynamo-pictures-acquisition-pictures-mario-movie

[feral ferry]

https://mobilegamer.biz/devs-not-baking-monetisation-into-the-creative-process-are-fucking-idiots-says-unitys-john-riccitiello/

wat

Oh

I see

[fringe salmon]

yup that is the real issue behind all of this

[feral ferry]

Why are all the top dogs retarded

[trim rock]

he's not wrong

If you're not focusing entirely on making money what are you even doing

[nimble current]

yeah, whoever had the idea that videogames are entertainment and art and not a vessel for raking in microtransactions is clearly delusional

[feral ferry]

https://youtu.be/AN8ZAf15DrM

Oo

That's something more high end

[nimble current]

is youtube gonna put an R-rating on this review as well

[barren pewter]

Scorn looks so cool

too bad I gotta wait 3 months to dive in

[feral ferry]

https://survios.com/Aliens/

AYY

New Alien game

[barren pewter]

being developed for VR as well

hm

probably gonna be a VR port of a game instead of a game scratch made for VR

[feral ferry]

https://thegamespoof.com/gaming-news/russia-wants-to-create-its-own-game-engine-in-fear-of-losing-access-to-unreal-engine-or-unity/

Tf kinda game companies they have remaining anymore

Back in early 2000s they had a lot of credible and big names

Now... barely any?

Only 1C comes to mind

Which apparently got bought by Tencent and renamed

[solid bough]

to be fair, they couldn't exactly have a thriving video game market in the past.

[feral ferry]

They had plenty good ones

[solid bough]

I doubt in th esoviet times that there was much distributions of arcade machines.

and then during the 80s it was very much iron walled.

[feral ferry]

soviet

[solid bough]

yeah, soviet era

we're going back in time

[feral ferry]

Late 90s to early '00s were amazing for russian game scene

[solid bough]

yeah and it lasted until roughly 90/91

[feral ferry]

They had a lot of good companies and a lot of good hits spun from there

[solid bough]

and the damage and fallout of the fall of the soviet union was still ongoing

[feral ferry]

What

[solid bough]

and the economy wasn't exactly wipe for too much video game related stuff

i'm talking about companies

[feral ferry]

Yes

[solid bough]

what big time game companies were in russia in the 90s?

anyways. my point was they had a slower start.

due to a bunch of circumstances

[feral ferry]

In 90s? 1C, Akella, Nikita, Nival

Amongst many others

[solid bough]

what did they make?

[feral ferry]

1C still exists, IL-2 sturmovik amongst many others

Akella had a lot of good ones

[solid bough]

oh yeah

I loved 1C

[nimble current]

only thing I know of that akella made was corkscrew rules expansion for postal 2

[feral ferry]

Nikita made a bunch of eastern european games, like Parkan, now they mainly focus on browser games

[solid bough]

i had to look it up and now i remember logo

[nimble current]

and that's....not good

[feral ferry]

Nival still exists, Blitzkrieg, Heroes of Might and Magic 4

Oh and Silent Storm

Never forget Silent Storm

[solid bough]

yeah, Silent Storm is great.

[feral ferry]

I also loved Death to Spies back in the day

That was by some russian studio

[solid bough]

with exception of 1C though, it sounds like the others didn't get big

[feral ferry]

Nival is fairly big

Nikita is still good

Idk about much others

My russian games ended when I got a PS2

Like 2010 or so

So judging the fact I got my first PC in 2006, and stopped playing russian games 2010

[solid bough]

fuck

[feral ferry]

Today I learned that

DCS, the aircraft game, is actually Russian

Russians really love their combat simulators

[solid bough]

its good shit

[feral ferry]

Crossout, of all things, is developed by russians

[solid bough]

best flight sims I played way way back was B17 Flying Fortress but then IL2 Sturmovik came out and I never looked back. not that B17 was bad.

[feral ferry]

I mean Gaijin is technically russian but they don't develop Crossout themselves, another russian company does

[solid bough]

well yeah, Gaijin studio iirc.

[feral ferry]

Eh Gaijin is as russian as Wargaming is

Founded there, established HQ offshore

At least Wargaming now has actually cut all ties with russia completely, closed off all their original studios and moved to Europe

[orchid prism]

Officially anyway

[feral ferry]

Afaik, and I do know a lot about them

It's pretty straight forward

They for whatever reason literally cut all ties

[orchid prism]

Ukraine war was the trigger.

[feral ferry]

Restructuring their european divisions

And closing or letting go independent their russian divisions

[feral ferry]

That it was

Wishing that Gaijin followed suit

[solid bough]

they cut ties? good for them

i stopped playing gaijin games anyways. the grinding was too much after a while.

[feral ferry]

It only gets worse as it goes further

I'll only play War Thunder if they implement tank only matchmaking

I don't care for flying pieces of shits intruding on my ground gameplay

[nimble current]

wargaming even fired one of their high ranking creative directors of world of tanks for being pro-russia

[feral ferry]

Yes they did

Mr. SerB

[solid bough]

nice

[feral ferry]

He's also the original guy, one of the founders of the company

[nimble current]

yeah

[solid bough]

russian bias confirmed

[feral ferry]

Well SerB might be gone, but his... uh.. face, will forever be remembered

[solid bough]

i played beta and way after that 👀

[feral ferry]

Good old serb

[nimble current]

yeah featured in countless wargaming memes

[solid bough]

okay I love Silent Storm but how the fuck did it beat Half Life 2

Gamespot must have been smoking some dope ass crack or sumthin

[nimble current]

2004 pretty strong year

[fringe salmon]

well

you could look at the month of hl2

[nimble current]

half-life 2, doom 3, farcry and world of warcraft all released in 2004

[fringe salmon]

and see its in fact not in jannuary

[nimble current]

nfs underground 2

[trim rock]

January 2004, that's before HL2

Unless... comparing to the leaked version 👀

[nimble current]

gta san andreas too apparently

tho ps2 only, pc/xbox got postponed to 2005

for some reason google answers thinks that was the #1 game of 2004

[feral ferry]

I still find it incredibly hard to believe San Andreas and Half Life 2 came out in the same year...

Like the difference is insane

[nimble current]

you mean like technically or

[feral ferry]

Mostly technically, yes

[nimble current]

I mean, san andreas technically runs on the same engine as 2001's GTA3, though improved

[solid bough]

okay true, I forgot the January part.

[nimble current]

sure hl2 didn't have the huge seamless world that GTA did but was more advanced on things like physics and graphical fidelity

[solid bough]

but like, wouldn't you just wait until near end of year for awards?

[feral ferry]

HL2 still holds up graphically, 18 years later

That's rather phenomenal ain't going to lie

[solid bough]

gameplay holds up

and with enough duct-tape : the engine is still solid for stuff

[feral ferry]

We have source 2 now

[nimble current]

the textures and overall lod in hl2 kinda shows its age imo, but its carried to a large extent by good lighting

[solid bough]

GTA SA is great but it def still has some early 2000s clunkyness. but i find it charming rather than annoying.

[nimble current]

F.E.A.R. is another game that holds up better than it has any right to visually

[feral ferry]

That game needs a remake

[nimble current]

the textures were insanely high-res and crisp for the time, and the lighting still looks great

[feral ferry]

At least a remaster

[trim rock]

Love that real time lighting

[feral ferry]

How did FEAR even run on GPUs back then

[trim rock]

Would it be a good candidate for RTX ON?

[nimble current]

my 7900GT did alright, but yeah was a heavy title

[feral ferry]

Oh hey a new rimworld-esque launched today https://store.steampowered.com/app/1700870/Clanfolk/

Steam

Clanfolk

Clanfolk is a challenging medieval colony sim that takes you to the Scottish Highlands and pits you against nature itself. Starting with an empty plot of land and only your closest family, you will learn to survive as you establish your hearth and home, watch over your livestock, harvest your fields, and fight the bitter winter. Whether you grow...

Price

$17.99

▶ Play video

[nimble current]

I've played thru that games campaign like half dozen times

would do it again if they put out a remaster

you can technically still run it just fine on a modern system, the only thing I'd might want to see modernized a bit is the controls

[feral ferry]

https://arstechnica.com/gaming/2022/07/ea-pulls-a-reverse-ubisoft-makes-some-old-bioware-dlc-free/

What's wrong with EA recently

It's almost like they hate being hated

They still return to shape from time to time, with their twitter bs and that

[trim rock]

A good time to try to score some goodwill

[nimble current]

maybe some two decades of sleazy profit maximizing practices has finally caught up with them

and are actually hurting their bottom line

[orchid prism]

XCOM - But you're in WW2 and it has steampunk mechs

It writes itself.

[solid bough]

ah fuck no. This was more like Bioware doing this than EA doing ti themselves, most likely. Also they can shut the online services part off and not need to spend money/electricity/resources on it anymore.

[solid bough]

Dieselpunk :P

is what it is called

[orchid prism]

Eh... whatevs

[solid bough]

is big difference

transitioning from victorian-fantasy-ish era kind of thing to a more gritty late 19th or early 20th century. primarily early 20th century cause world war 1 and 2

[orchid prism]

Eh.

[tough jay]

EA is definitely greedy, but they also know a game with dlc included may sell a bit better, even if it's old.
Especially better than one where dlc is no longer available. Even better if timing gives you a cheap PR win.

[solid bough]

yeah but Mass Effect is a single player game and no one plays those, for losers only 😎 -EA

[fading spade]

Only losers play single player games because they lack the gamer skills to handle real gamers in multiplayer games
EA - probably

[feral ferry]

Throw one of these "gamers" against a insane difficulty bots

None would beat one

Singleplayer is a skill of its own

[fading spade]

I saw a comment earlier today from someone, they were playing FEAR, and one of the enemy AI's decided to walk around the entire map, climb up a ladder and burst through a door behind the player to flank them and kill them with a shotgun

That game is old af...thats mad impressive

[feral ferry]

That's something I would do as a player

[fading spade]

:')

[feral ferry]

Gaming deserves good AI opponents

If you throw me good AI I don't even want to play PvP

[fading spade]

that actually know the map and dont just run at you in hordes

[fallow bronze]

fear still has one of the best AI's

but the coridor level design also helps massively

[feral ferry]

Well a pre-coded AI is one thing

Self-learning AI is whole another

[fading spade]

yeh LOL

learns from you each time you play a level

[feral ferry]

We'll see Hello Neighbour 2 later this year

[fading spade]

that would be scary

[feral ferry]

I want to know if HN2's AI is actually competent

They are advertising a deep learning AI that learns from you to counter your actions

[fading spade]

idk anything about that game

oo

[feral ferry]

I want to know how would DL AI actually learn

[fading spade]

oh boi.....he did some serious damage

[feral ferry]

Like, how does it respond to playstyle changes

What if two tries you barged right in, and the third one you took the sneaky route

I want to see logs somewhere with AI assesment of the game

[fading spade]

Yeah, its so neat to see

[solid bough]

60-90 dollar screen replacement

[fading spade]

the Deck works, if he plugs it to another display, so thats good

[solid bough]

Yeah it looks just broken screen

Can be swaped oit for 60-90 bucks

[fading spade]

apparently he dropped his pistol on it taking it out of his holster

judging by the comments he made under the video and that a weapon fell on it

[fallow bronze]

lol

[solid bough]

Figured itd be a bigger hole then.

Also they a dumbass

[nimble current]

certified america moment

[solid bough]

I don't go about dropping my guns

[fading spade]

o, what guns you got?

[solid bough]

A Mossberg and a Canik Mete

[fading spade]

idk wtf that second one is....brb xd

Pistol, aha

[solid bough]

Yeah

Turkish made. Good quality, very excellent trigger. Got the Mete SFX series

[fading spade]

I only want one real gun
A Tavor or AUG

I love bullpups <3

[solid bough]

So the front barrel is a little extended for extra weight and at the back you have adjustable and removable ironsight and a backplate removable for Optics

I want a P90 <3

Fuckers are expensive and the rounds more expensive

[fading spade]

not a fan of those xd

[solid bough]

1 per bullet atm

[fading spade]

but the way the mag works is nice

and unique

[solid bough]

Theres some crazier ones, like helix drums

[fading spade]

O.o

[solid bough]

I forgot their name

But its a company known for whacky but super innovative designs

The damn helix drums take up essentially whole gun frame.

Holds 50 or 100 rounds

[fading spade]

🤔

[fallow bronze]

p90, sg1

[feral ferry]

Keltec?

That's an american primarily pistol manufacturer

But boy they have created some.. uh.. ridiculous stuff

In the gun community they are the top tier trolls

[small comet]

i thought they meant the usfa zip .22 lr

heard its a really good pistol

[solid bough]

yeah thats them! Keltec

[solid bough]

nah, the company that made the Zip got desroyed and burned down for the zip. financial ruin.

whats everyone's favorite game?

[orchid prism]

Blizzard's gone full furry 😄

[trim rock]

Nice

[orchid prism]

I've always found their canine art style kind of... worrying and weird. But they've fully embraced the furry at this point clearly 😄

[solid bough]

I don't believe thats the case

it's simply a shift of style from cartoony to higher detailed/realistic.

so, like, yeah when you have anthro races like gnolls and dragons and werewolves they gonna look like furry anthroes because thats just what it is. they aren't putting them in there for the sake of furries.

i do prefer the odler style but thats a personal nostalgia factor. but it is outdated.

and these fantasy games do have lots of non-human races.

it's going to have updates on those races and people re going to scream 'its furreh!'

but, like. anthro characters have existed for eons in media and fiction. WoW is no different.

[severe compass]

Dare we take a peek into: THE DISNEY VAULT!

[solid bough]

LOL

Disney has been pushing the stuff for a hundred years.

[orchid prism]

No no - Definitely for the furries.

[solid bough]

based on what?

[orchid prism]

Based on silly hyperbole obviously.

[solid bough]

oh

I CANT READ TEXT SARCASMS OR HYPERBOLES REEEEEEEEE

[orchid prism]

But they've definitely taking a bad turn for "animals but more like humans cause we're too lazy to handle multiple skeletal rigs"

Cause gnolls have never been straight standing humans with animal heads.

[solid bough]

I do agree, the gnolls should be all hunched over and, well, hyenas beast-men

[severe compass]

I imagine since mocap has gained popularity unique skeletal rigs have also lost favour since it means a lot more work to make it look on par with pure human mocapped skeletons

[solid bough]

but maybe it's for optimization reasons or something, changing out old skele rigs and animations.

oh!

good point : motion captures

[orchid prism]

It's an MMO. Which means modular equipment - I bet they've done this for a more homogenous skeletal rig so that they spend less time tweaking SHOULDERPAD_000555 to each race.

[solid bough]

lol

[severe compass]

True
I am 100% convinced that Halo Infinite dropped the female model because they were sick of making two sets of armour for each body type

[solid bough]

yeah theres that side too. by design they have to make everything modular

they were orginally going to have a female model?

[orchid prism]

With the recent TV Show they might be... pressured to do it anyway 😄

[severe compass]

Halo 5 had a female body type, Halo infinite doesn't

[solid bough]

they could just. like. you don't really need to exactly change the model or much at all.

[orchid prism]

Since it's a F2P money making season game.

[solid bough]

armor doesn't need boob sockets.

[severe compass]

It didn't give them boob sockets (most the time anyway), it just shaped it differently

[solid bough]

right but they don't have to shape it differently.

unless the woman was particularly endowed, they can be wrapped up as was done traditionally in the past and they will fit fine enough in armor. plus, that shit is layered. regardless if it's medieval armor or spartman mark-whatever armor : it's all layered anyways.

a female spartan wont look too differently from the other guy unless he's mcbeefington

in armor*

[severe compass]

Halo armour does have "skin tight" sections where artificial muscle lines the suit giving hints as to what's beneath. The armour is essentially custom made for each Spartan, extremely expensive, required to allow freedom of movement, and very Though the degree of sexual dimorphism between sexs, has varied a lot between games I felt Halo 5 was in the best place. Halo infinite on the otherhand only changes the waistline, and doesn't bother changing the armour.

I think why this irks me the most was that in Halo 5 you got the armour for playing the game, in Infinite you need to pay. So now you've got half the variation and it's gonna cost extra

[solid bough]

honestly all I see is Warframe

XD

though for real : yeah it is almost like Games as a Live Service is a bad thing.

[orchid prism]

HOW?

Not even remotely similar xD

[severe compass]

This armour set is a reference to my man

retibrA ehT

H: Infinite's variations on the other hand...

[solid bough]

@orchid prism was joke :P

[orchid prism]

[fading spade]

I will serve you with every inch of my body
Rendog - 2022

[severe compass]

I am still waiting for Halo Infinite Coop
I honest to god thought with all the promises of "Don't worry, it's coming!" That it was literally right around the corner.
Live-Service held it back
Keeping it on the Xbox One held it back
Not giving it enough time to finish the other 2/3rds of the campaign held it back (Although the remaining 1/3 holds up well, having 2x the campaign would've been excellent)
Being stuck in 10 years of development hell as they tried things like making it an Overwatch Hero shooter held it back (Yes they really did do that)
Lack of a game plan lending to zero content after release for a """"live service game""""" held it back
players logging on to find seasonal rewards were impossible to earn held it back

Like god damn, it's like seeing what could have been the best cake in the world get completely burnt, but after carving away all the charcoal you find a pretty delicious sliver of cake inside. Just wishing there was more to enjoy

[orchid prism]

https://www.kitguru.net/gaming/mustafa-mahmoud/unity-ceo-calls-devs-who-dont-bake-monetisation-into-games-ing-idiots

[bleak pike]

games-ing-idiots

Xd

[orchid prism]

👌 😙

[solid bough]

Dwarf Fortress will finish before Halo Inf Coop will release.

[severe compass]

[orchid prism]

[solid bough]

BTW I think the GUI revamped version for Steam will come out this year, possibly.

[orchid prism]

It had better.

We need modders to fill in the obvious gaps.

[solid bough]

DF already has mods.

which gaps specifically though?

[orchid prism]

Revamp specific ones obviously 😛

Ton of missing sprites, UI elements and systems et cetera.

[solid bough]

you mean graphics or a game element?

oh

[orchid prism]

It's more of a framework than a complete experience. Cause budget.

[solid bough]

I'll take it like it is now honestly. I had no problem with how it was for years originally lol

[fading spade]

It feels illegal to even just look at Joker Buro in Muse Dash...

[fringe salmon]

the ceo is a plant to drop the share price so epic can go in and buy unity and everyone will now have to decide if they hate epic or unity more

[trim rock]

Oh no

[fading spade]

Even after watching gameplay of the part of the game this song is from, I still havent a clue wtf is happening...

https://youtu.be/NOk3FM-2eK4

[trim rock]

Yeah the story is pretty bonkers

[nimble current]

testing out the gamepad emulation in star citizen, significantly smoother movement and as responsive as they come

[bleak pike]

https://twitter.com/PlayStation/status/1547989404269965314

PlayStation (@PlayStation)

The agreement to acquire Bungie has closed. So now we can officially say… welcome to the PlayStation family, @Bungie!

Likes

33005

Retweets

4191

Twitter · Jul 15, 2022, 5:00 PM

tis official now

[ashen lark]

[orchid prism]

Bungie sure gets around.

I hope Sony checks for STDs

[solid bough]

rofl

[young crow]

damn they bought destiny 2

[fringe salmon]

damn and they didnt even wait for a steam sale for it lol

noobs

[solid bough]

sony and sales?

jokes aside : i think this is what they were refering to when Sony said they wanted to dip their toes into the PC market.

[nimble current]

was about to ask what franchise does bungie currently have that's worth owning the rights for

[solid bough]

Destiny

and credit for past made titles.

they might still own Marathon.

oh wait it's freeware now

they made two Myth games

the rest isn't notable

[young crow]

no they just release pc builds now

that’s what they meant

the bungie thing just seems like drunk shopping

[solid bough]

wait wait

sony is building computers rigs?

[fringe salmon]

the bungie deal is months old

this is just that its complete

[solid bough]

i thought they meant official PC ports of their sony exclusives...

[young crow]

game builds

yes

[solid bough]

i feel like thats a very stupid idea to do that in today's current hardware market. at the moment anyways.

[young crow]

doesn’t make it look less ridiculous

[fringe salmon]

pc builds means pc builds of games not the hardware...

he did not mean they are going to build atx towers..

[solid bough]

we need clear definitions and terminology.

[fringe salmon]

"release pc builds" seems clear to me

[young crow]

i’m using software developer terminology

[solid bough]

I said PC market, as in games. you felt some need to correct me as if it was something else entirely like hardware instead of software and thats what caused the confusion. PC builds is used for, you guess it, Personal Computer builds. as in. The computer. Not ports.

as in the game side of the PC market*

it;s a 100% bet if you start slinging around PC Build or PC rig : it's refering to a computer. Hardware.

[young crow]

no not really

[fringe salmon]

never heard anyone call it a "release" if they make a pc

[solid bough]

yes I know

Visual Studio will have its own thing

but we';re not compiling code here.

we're using layman talking words here.

[young crow]

wtf

[solid bough]

augh whatever. i'll go look it up.

and whatever this is can end

okay they are wanting to release games, software, yes indeed as was said.

[young crow]

not sure why they need 3 years to make small changes and recompile

https://youtu.be/TQmhPhvWWlM

great, they won’t let war drum studios fuck it up

[solid bough]

they could just, you know.

do it themselves.

and ensure its not a fuckup

they basically killed Red Dead Online because GTA pulled in fat stacks because they kept supporting that, plus disgusting microtransaction

[wild wyvern]

Did anyone try overwatch 2? I just played the beta a bit, it doesn't feel like a version 2 at all. I mean the graphics are nice but everything else felt the same or worse...

[severe compass]

That's because it's literally the same game, Blizzard announced Overwatch 2 in a panic because of all their controversies (IRC the Taiwan one at the time of announcement). Then they released Overwatch 2 in a panic as well due to report coming out finding truly astounding levels of harassment and sexism.

There wasn't actually a plan for OW2, and even when they announced it they didn't start developing it until a year later, whereupon they immediately got blindsided by a mandate from upper management to release the game to try and make people forget they're a shit company.

[wild wyvern]

and they charge 40 something eur for it... Hope they won't charge existing players...

I don't think I will play it though... one game i get reported for throwing, the other game for cheating, after that get yelled at for no reason at all...

I mean it's the same in Apex too, but I only play it with friends so it's ok 😄

[fringe salmon]

They won’t charge existing players because ow2 is going to be free on release

[severe compass]

IRC didn't they heavily imply that you had to buy OW2 in order to trick people into paying for the beta?

[orchid prism]

There was definitely something in that area, yes

Lot of OW owners are still salty about the "rewards" they got compared to new owners.

[fading spade]

NINJAS
WITH GUNS!

[unique bane]

@fringe salmon https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rcr06ScR9aE getting along. 1 new senior programmer & 3 new 3D artist hires 🙂

[fringe salmon]

sounds good

[unique bane]

this concept art looking v good 😄

[unique bane]

That view distance gg

[small comet]

reminds me of 2006 mmos

early wow with a lot of smoothing

[unique bane]

I mean it's not finished 😛

[fringe salmon]

obviously, you dont make terrain design with release textures

[small comet]

what u dont

sounds way too reasonable

[unique bane]

another with a bit more finished textures

[small comet]

u mean FFXIV

[unique bane]

What FFXIV?

[small comet]

those 2 screens remind me of ffxiv

[unique bane]

Ah hehe

a bit like it I guess

Tho I didnt play in ages so can't say

[bleak pike]

"Defend the runner"

Meanwhile my team in their own fuckin world.

[feral ferry]

You have just encountered the issue with multiplayer games

90% of players are idiots

[fringe salmon]

and 100% of players think they are better than they are

[ashen lark]

I would argue it’s more like 99.9999999874361%

And then there is me

[feral ferry]

A superbaka

Baka omega

[nimble current]

I stopped playing pvp a few years back now, I dunno I just found myself fatigued putting up with online randoms as "teammates"

[small comet]

thats a lie

[ashen lark]

Just 99.9999999874361%

I think I am the best and I am the best

So doesn’t apply to me

[solid bough]

def not me except when TF2 first came out lol

[fading spade]

I know I suck at games

[solid bough]

I'll suck at any FPS pvp game that isn't TF2

[ashen lark]

Well you are extremely good at Minecraft parkour

[fading spade]

not really xd

[nimble current]

don't mind pvp as such but good lord the decisionmaking and cooperation skills of average teammate randoms makes me wonder how they even got the game running

[fading spade]

I give up if I cant beat a level after a certain number of tries

[nimble current]

let alone their computer

[ashen lark]

Well you are better than 99% of people

[fading spade]

nah, give me head hitter jumps and I cannot do them

those are real easy for a lot of people

any jumps involving water, no thanks

or honey walls you slide down

or hanging off vines

[fringe salmon]

alright, 100% of people that think teammates are bad (which they might also be) are overestimating themselves too

[ashen lark]

Well at normal parkour still, I had to put in so much effort to have one run without falling that’s fast yet it was worse than you

[ashen lark]

Apart from me

[fading spade]

you beat my time though

[ashen lark]

I literally spent like 8 hours

[fading spade]

oop

[ashen lark]

And I think you then got better time in 3 tries

I restarted everytime I fell which was very often

And even perfect run was slower despite me going as fast as I could on most parts

[fading spade]

tbf

I did make my parkour map easier on some levels...xd

my rollercoaster is restored <3

I built this one a server and used a mod to copy the chunks to a single player world

the version on the server is broken cause they removed the ability to use pistons .-.

it also has parts of the track where the minecart goes backwards, so I had to make a timer to limit when the next person could leave the station at the start

which I timed to the second, so you nearly hit the person infront of you before they go off on another track

[ashen lark]

What if the person was holding w or s?

[fading spade]

that doesnt make the cart go faster if its already travelling as fast as it can on powered rails

[ashen lark]

But can’t it make it go slower?

• accelerate faster at start

[fading spade]

you cant manually accelerate at the start xd

you get into the cart when its not even on the track yet

this is the start

a better one I made

goes underground too and up to the build limit

the jump doesnt work on 1.19 ;-; wtf

did they change cart physics?

[bleak pike]

https://www.twitch.tv/warframe

TennoCon

[trim rock]

Oh yes give me the ||Plains of Duviri filled with loads of bounties to do forever and ever!||

[feral ferry]

Oh look Nintendo hired Shane Dawson

[orchid prism]

[fading spade]

[solid bough]

i don't think that was real 😛

[orchid prism]

[young hill]

Actually good game by the way

[young hill]

So I am guessing Mario retired to become a furry who also poaches as a hobby

[bleak pike]

you sure?

[young hill]

Yes

They also keep adding stuff to it and it is all for player benefit.

[bleak pike]

well

[young hill]

That looks like you

[bleak pike]

it was bad during first week

it is me

i bought it on my eng account for full money

[young hill]

When it came out?

[bleak pike]

2018

[young hill]

Okay fair enough

They did polish it up a bit, better performance still not perfect and recently they added merchants.

[bleak pike]

did they finally add the music they promised before launch

[young hill]

What music do you mean

Like a radio station set

Or playing your own music

[bleak pike]

https://youtu.be/a0fh1bnuA-8

it does seem like they added them in 2019

[young hill]

Well for that they have instruments

[bleak pike]

nice it uses midi like FFXIV

[young hill]

And I assume you just play the notes

[bleak pike]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PP24PbjwESM

i love games that let you make your own music

Warframe, XIV etc

[young hill]

I see

Never even thought about that

[bleak pike]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bvfero4gWp8

[nimble current]

minecraft

[bleak pike]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c8ac4PWIR80

its great

i wanna do it but cant be fucked

[young hill]

[bleak pike]

you have to max out a class or some shit

@fringe salmon can tell ya

[fringe salmon]

idk I havent unlocked bard

[young hill]

Okay now that second one was good

[fringe salmon]

but I'm pretty sure you only have to unlock the class

no leveling or anything

well I guess you have to get archer to lv30 to unlock bard

so uh, idk, 2 hours maybe or so

[orchid prism]

Just had to pick the worst song ever didn't you.

[young hill]

The actual music video is weird as well

[orchid prism]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wB7BSg-o_5U

[orchid prism]

You just need to be archer lv30 for the bard upgrade. That takes no time at all.

[bleak pike]

MSQ sucks ass

[fringe salmon]

the start is sluggy, the rest you didnt even do

[orchid prism]

Just... alt it? 😛

Doesn't take many dungeons to get to 30. I did it - twice.

[fringe salmon]

also new servers are out, you have 100% xp bonus on them for quite a while

[bleak pike]

wot

[fringe salmon]

I'm saying you barely did the story so you're calling it ass based on a tiny fraction that everyone agrees on is the worst part

[solid bough]

that aint nothing to florida summer

[solid bough]

oh wow that Unity thing got way worse

first buying a company known for malware, and then apparently mass layoff, and then calling devs idiots?

oh!!

EX-CEO of EA is the lead of Unity

now it makes sense why its shit

this is a person that doesn't think people are people : we're walking wallets.

[fading spade]

They also increased the CEO's salary up to 160% of what it was in 2019

While claiming they cant afford to keep staff and hence the layoff

[solid bough]

they lost ten percent of their stock 😂

they also BOUGHT ANOTHER COMPANY so its still bullshit about not being able to afford anything

it's a tragedy but this is the fault of the person that put this person as their CEO because OH MY GOSH HE WAS CEO OF EA THAT MEANS HES THE BEST IN THE BUISNESS

they only looking at his personal wealth and wealth of a scam company. not relation and customer damage.

[fringe salmon]

while the salary increase at the same time as layoffs is ironic, company mergers are to big parts done via stock deal so not related to being able to pay people or not

[solid bough]

no they had enough money to not layoff people. it's always been lies by this guy.

he even assured them 2 weeks prior that they were fine

[fringe salmon]

I'm not saying that I'm saying "look they merged with this company they have the money" is not how it works

[solid bough]

potentially but I'm pretty sure money is involved.

[fringe salmon]

yeah it's probably never a 100% deal in shares, but without knowing the numbers a merger can be done for good reasons even while not having free cashflow

[solid bough]

sure. but this one isn't done for good reason.

nothing this person does is for good reason.

[fringe salmon]

thats an opinion the part that mergers dont reflect on the financial state per se is just a fact

[fading spade]

PIKACHU WAS GOING TO BE CALLED JEAN LUC

WHAT THE ACTUAL FUCK

[solid bough]

you can name a pokemon anything, whats so special about that?

[fading spade]

Imagine a world where the most famous pokemon is named Jean Luc!

That lil yellow ball of lightning xd

[solid bough]

what do you base this information on?

cause I have my doubts

unless its some weird french re-translation thing or somthin

[fading spade]

wait nvm, it was Ash's Pikachu's name
I thought the Pokemon species itself was to be called Jean Luc xd

[solid bough]

your reading comprehension is as bad as mine.

[fading spade]

tbf, I first read a different article

then saw this one later on

[fading spade]

https://youtu.be/8wnGBekd9Gw\

[orchid prism]

So... Warframe devs are making a Soulsgame... sorry I mean # SOULFRAME

[barren pewter]

fuck yeah Tenno

go slay that dragon

use that Skana you've been pimping since the tutorial

[trim rock]

Yeah definitely gonna sign up for that

Also nice trailer with good amount of ass

[bleak pike]

?

[orchid prism]

https://twitter.com/PlayWarframe/status/1548433145124401154

WARFRAME (@PlayWarframe)

It’s an exciting time for #Warframe as Rebecca Ford transitions to Creative Director while Steve Sinclair and others focus their efforts on a brand new game, #Soulframe.

We’d like to share a letter from each about the future of #Warframe and more.

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[bleak pike]

sweet jesus

[orchid prism]

https://www.pcgamesn.com/warframe/soulframe-reveal

[bleak pike]

https://tenor.com/view/this-is-unexpected-unexpected-unforeseen-circumstances-surprise-seth-meyers-gif-9711586

was that the none binary body trend

in the trailer

See you in probably 2024

[bleak pike]

@barren pewter @feral ferry may i introduce you to a literal stalker minecraft clone that literally runs stolen minecraft code/mods

[fading spade]

Uuhh

[solid bough]

you mean that stalkercraft one? how do you know it uses stolen code and mods?

@bleak pike I would really like to know as I tried it for ten minutes. wouldn't surprise me if there was malware concerns too?

[bleak pike]

in the files are literal minecraft mods

the devs also keep dodging questions on if they got permission

[solid bough]

damn thats shitty

well, Valve will take them down if the mod owners, any of them just one, contacted them.

can i have a link or something to read up on this?

[ashen lark]

Hmm I wanted to set up capslock for modtap for shift but then I realized Minecraft parkour needs no more delay, my skills already make it hard