After the years of Bethesda clinging to Creation 1 like it's the last cock on earth I find myself surprised that they even tried Creation 2 as an idea.
#🎮│game
unborn spruce
Idk, maybe it's the 2 decades of jank engine.
ornate cedar
Why not give it a new name to dissociate it from the old stuff?
fringe salmon
its apparently what they are using for starfield and it's not going to be a true rewrite
ornate cedar
So a fundamentally broken patchwork is to be expected?
fringe salmon
idk what exactly they are changing, if it's rendering, physics or whatever
ornate cedar
Physics based on framerate?
fading spade
unborn spruce
shrugs I expect a janky mess that doesn't work and allows horses to climb near vertical walls.
ornate cedar
2000s era issues in the modern day
fringe salmon
wasn't it when they announced 76 that they alos said every new game will have one part of the engine upgraded?
unborn spruce
It's not Skyrim if the horses can't climb near vertical walls.
feral ferry
What horses? In Starfield? 
fringe salmon
so rendering/physics/idk
unborn spruce
What horses? In Starfield? <:lul:576475280303063096>
Starfield is Skyrim?
Always has been.
ornate cedar
Would be easier to drop it entirely and rewrite it from modern frameworks
unborn spruce
Yes.
But they'll never actually do that.
Bethesda is known for janky games that're still somehow great.
fringe salmon
ehh I wouldn't say that has to be "easier"
you need different people for making an engine from scratch vs maintaining one
not all can just do both
unborn spruce
Dude, they can probably just ask Square Enix for one. 
ornate cedar
having to deal with bugs from the 90s is no fun time
fringe salmon
hm, feel like they could do more with either decima or some ubisoft engine than a squenix
unborn spruce
Oh for sure.
The joke is that Square just went through an engine phase for some reason even though they didn't really end up using them.
ornate cedar
Epic would not mind lending theirs out :)
unborn spruce
Vexx, you're in the vastly tiny minority there.
feral ferry
I want my jank RPG built on Gamebryo
unborn spruce
Nobody actually wants more janky awful Creation games.
fringe salmon
yes and we already told you, junk is possible on a good engine too
you can have both
feral ferry
Creation is still, not a bad engine
unborn spruce
It literally is a bad engine.
It's bad but people view it as good because Skyrim.
It's an awful engine, through and through.
ornate cedar
It begins to show its age too much. bugs constantly reappearing with noone really remembering why
unborn spruce
Just the jankiness is fun, that needs to be put into a newer version.
Old jank with new features.
feral ferry
Wait for 2nd iteration then
fringe salmon
it might be good for other usecases, but for what they are using it, it's either bad or its ok and they are just bad at using it
feral ferry
It'll be massively improved upon
fringe salmon
mhm yea
fringe salmon
“For Fallout 76 we have changed a lot,” Todd Howard told Gamestar this year. “The game uses a new renderer, a new lighting system and a new system for the landscape generation. For Starfield even more of it changes."
unborn spruce
The entire modding community of Skyrim, one of the biggest modding communities on the planet, can barely make it run well.
And you think Bethesda can?
AYY LMAO
fringe salmon
so sure, they will make more changes to it, but based on todds on words it's not going to be a full rewrite or anything near it
ornate cedar
Atleast Stalker devs admitted to the engine being poopy
feral ferry
so sure, they will make more changes to it, but based on todds on words it's not...
You are completely ignoring the fact Todd said "More people than ever are working on the engine" and "It'll be the biggest engine jump to date"
unborn spruce
Dude, that doesn't matter.
fringe salmon
I literally posted what he said lines above that
unborn spruce
You can make a massive jump, but a jump from garbage to bigger garbage is still garbage.
It needs an overhaul.
ornate cedar
unborn spruce
New engine, introduce the bugs on purpose.
feral ferry
I literally posted what he said lines above that
That was in response to what you said
It ain't just an incremental upgrade
unborn spruce
Yet again, does not matter.
feral ferry
I mean if they are making photogrammetry work then surely it's a big enough increase in rendering performance
unborn spruce
The engine is still hot garbage. Upgrading garbage will get you something kinda passable at most.
What we need is a new engine, and to port all of the Creation 1.0 buggyness into it.
fringe salmon
todds own words are "for fo76 we made changes to rendering and terrain editing, for Starfield we will change mroe"
unborn spruce
Literally make it feel exactly the same, but have it run better and be able to be worked with smoother.
ornate cedar
high framerate will become a reality
fringe salmon
how is that close to an engine rewrite
unborn spruce
how is that close to an engine rewrite
Also this.
It's not claimed to be a rewrite.
Just incremental changes that mean nothing,
feral ferry
unborn spruce
Shit, you've seen FO76, game looks like clay.
barren pewter
yeah
barren pewter
I gotta agree with Aeon on this
ornate cedar
But it did have the brotherhood of steel 
feral ferry
Game no longer will look like clay
barren pewter
Vexxsie
feral ferry
They already showcased the new renderer btw
unborn spruce
We said that before FO76 came out.
feral ferry
With photogrammetry in action
feral ferry
You people might have never actually seen this footage actually 
Lemme find that clip
ornate cedar
Sometimes you need to cut the losses and force the development from the project
unborn spruce
"Game will look great!" everyone said.
"It'll just work, Tod said it!" we all thought.
Turns out Tod is a known liar and bullshit artist.
Why believe shit he says?
ornate cedar
Can polish a turd so much, but you end up with a polished turd
fringe salmon
with photogrammetry you are capturing data and make that into meshes and such, that means nothing in regards of how it performs or looks like after the render pass
it's cool and all, but doesn't mean anything for the end look based on it alone
unborn spruce
it's cool and all, but doesn't mean anything for the end look based on it alone
This.
ornate cedar
Its just a method to turn images and videos into 3 dimentional models
feral ferry
fringe salmon
ubisoft has been using it in AC for ages and they make good use of it, but it's not alone from the technique
ornate cedar
You can do that for free 10 years ago already
unborn spruce
Already that video means nothing because it's uploaded by Bethesda. It means something when we see someone with credibility do it.
Digital Foundry is when it means something.
feral ferry
Digital Foundry is when it means something.
Hardware Unboxed means nothing.. until DF posts ay?
Good ol' FSR got butchered
unborn spruce
fringe salmon
HU does hardware review, not game reviews?
ornate cedar
Atleast not only from the one trying to sell you the snake oil
unborn spruce
It's not about Hardware Unboxed doing shit.
It's about credibility.
Say it...
Credibility!
ornate cedar
**Credibility!**
Nein
unborn spruce
It means we can take someone by their word because they've been consistent and truthful in the past.
Bethesda has not done that.
ornate cedar
But [other factor that isnt themselves]
feral ferry
Creditility? DF sure does look like they like taking credits from Nvidia to purposefully make their competitors' technologies look bad
unborn spruce
barren pewter
**Credibility!**
heh
after the shitshow known as 76
I can't trust anything todd says
ornate cedar
Its fine to be biased if you are clear with the bias from the getgo
barren pewter
(tell me more sweet lies uwu)
unborn spruce
@feral ferry Dude, a fuckup here and there on a single youtube video doesn't ruin credibility.
Lying about a product and intentionally bullshitting so you can sell it and make money...
No, that fucks a credibility rating.
ornate cedar
Bethesda is one of the few companies that have been lying so blantently
unborn spruce
Bethesda lied for months.
feral ferry
Well DF might have more credibility when it comes to tech than Tom's Hardware, sure
Games? No clue bud
unborn spruce
ornate cedar
Even hello games met more of their claims
unborn spruce
DF will prove the framerates and frametimes.
That's real data to go off.
@feral ferry You cherry picked a single piece of a youtube video uploaded by Bethesda with no 3rd party checks involved.
keen urchin
There's two things I want from Skyrim 2
Multiplayer, because there's no reason two people shouldn't be able to walk the world together
And an AI, that modyfies NPC scripts on the fly and to adapt to changes in the world, as well as your combat style
fringe salmon
Games? No clue bud
then why are you bashing them when you say you don't know what they do 
barren pewter
Bethesda lied for *months*.
and continued to fuck over gamers for YEARS
the bag
the helmet
the atom shop
unborn spruce
and continued to fuck over gamers for YEARS
Also the Bag and Rum, yeah.
feral ferry
then why are you bashing them when you say you don't know what they do <:what:62...
Cancel culture?
unborn spruce
The Helmet, Shop, stealing DLCs.
unborn spruce
Stealing from mod authors.
barren pewter
so bad
feral ferry
Learning from the Twitter mob how to run the internet
fringe salmon
but even disregarding all that, I think most people want and hope for good bethesda games, but you're out here defending them more than what todd himself says lmao
ornate cedar
RPG games that bethesda is making pretty much only lends them to be singleplayer to coop only
unborn spruce
Honestly, Bethesda has a tarnished reputation now, and it's not actually safe to trust them by their word.
Maybe once upon a time.
But no longer, not for years.
ornate cedar
No one would be an AI for them
barren pewter
tbh, bethsoft of about 5-10 years ago, I'd trust
fallout 3 and 4 were quite impressive, even with all the issues they had
unborn spruce
Now we rely on 3rd parties to audit what they say for the same reason we do it to Activision. No trust left.
feral ferry
I wouldn't trust them as much if they remain in the hands of Zenimax
But with Zeni gone, they are a free bird essentially
ornate cedar
Eh, the more you begin to look into it.. the more you realise they might always been like that
unborn spruce
I wouldn't trust them as much if they remain in the hands of Zenimax
Tod is a known liar, he navigates the ship, ergo I don't trust the heading.
It's really that simple.
unborn spruce
Bullshit everyone for months, you lose trust.
feral ferry
I trust in Todd to make a game
unborn spruce
Doesn't matter, he bullshitted for months and ruined his rep.
barren pewter
after 76, I don't trust a thing coming out of his mouth
unborn spruce
If any game designer pulled that shit they could fuck off.
feral ferry
76 was Zenimax shenanigans
I severely doubt BGS has much to do when Zeni was money hungry
unborn spruce
If Martin O'Donnell pulled bullshit like that I'd still not trust shit from him.
Doesn't matter that he's one of the most legendary composers in videogame history.
ornate cedar
Having to lie and put your reputation into something you dont believe in is highly unlikely to happen. He either agreed with them somewhat or believed to be able to bear the consequenses
feral ferry
If Starfield is shit, sure, I'll actually agree that BGS is a shitty company
unborn spruce
Yoko Taro can still ruin his reputation if he bullshits for months.
feral ferry
For now all blame goes on what used to be Zenimax for me
unborn spruce
Doesn't matter who you are, if you lie you don't deserve the trust.
ornate cedar
Also you cant force someone to lie for you
unborn spruce
@feral ferry The point is that Zenimax might have been behind it, but Tod had a choice in that action and he chose to lie his ass off to everyone. If he did it once he might do it again.
Until he proves otherwise he gets no trust.
barren pewter
unborn spruce
Choosing otherwise is opening yourself up to stabbing.
fringe salmon
but even i you think zeni was the root of all evil, I don't think it's a good idea to present their plans as more than what todd claimed they would do, that would be some next level magic for any dev to do 
keen urchin
What did Todd even do, btw?
barren pewter
told me sweet little lies uwu
feral ferry
Todd couldn't have been influenced to generate false hype for the product against his will?
I mean to be fair, some of his statements were really bad when it came to marketing Skyrim or Oblivion, FO3
Very much so 76
unborn spruce
Todd couldn't have been influenced to generate false hype for the product agains...
Yes, he could have. But he was actively hype about it when it was clearly complete BS.
ornate cedar
Even if Zenimax forced him to lie to the people, its easier to keep details to minimum. Try to only address relevant and as truthful(even half truths, or lies by omission) possible
barren pewter
instead
unborn spruce
Had he been forced he'd have kept things to a minimum to generate hype.
barren pewter
he promised us everything our little hearts could desire
unborn spruce
He proper rode that thing HARD.
barren pewter
and gave us nothing promised
unborn spruce
Tells me he was willing to go the extra length to be a dick.
Why? Maybe money.
Regardless, no matter what way you look at it, Tod did everyone badly and deserves NOTHING in trust until he proves he isn't going to do that again.
ornate cedar
He would be able to say he was technically correct and to appeal to emotion with zenimax being what they are
unborn spruce
This is how society works, if you lie you are branded a liar and don't get blindly trusted.
unborn spruce
Bois, I'm doing it.
barren pewter
*with a vaccine
ornate cedar
If you lie, you need to agree with the action in some capacity
fringe salmon
I saw fo4 and thought I'll play the next game to get into the series
barren pewter
don't
fringe salmon
save to say I'm still waiting for the next fallout
barren pewter
save to say I'm still waiting for the next fallout <:kek:345388405552709642>
you and me both, brother
ornate cedar
Makes you almost wish for a nuclear winter huh
unborn spruce
barren pewter
we warned him
ornate cedar
Shut, cosplaying barbaric barbarians
barren pewter
Shut, cosplaying barbaric barbarians
charging at some wimps with machetes
sounds like fun ngl
feral ferry
Just cause it's the company whose games I love the most
The thing is
When it comes to hype, it doesn't matter how hyped I am
ornate cedar
They wont even hold against a single line of hastati.
feral ferry
I never pre-order the product
barren pewter
...
feral ferry
Nor do I really buy them
barren pewter
just realised I've preordered my woot2HE
feral ferry
Pirates life ahoy
ornate cedar
Thus your opinion on the game is void 
feral ferry
So yeah once Starfield launches
barren pewter
jk, the LE peeps all said it's good, and easy to improve
feral ferry
Most likely I'll just wait until reviews are in
barren pewter
So yeah once Starfield launches
I'll look at reviews
feral ferry
If it's shit, I'll pirate
barren pewter
if it's worth a play, I'll play
feral ferry
If it's REALLY good, fair for sale
unborn spruce
I'm thonking it's a pirate game, tbh.
barren pewter
otherwise, nope
ornate cedar
Will it allow me to bully the Gauls again?
feral ferry
But he still makes some of my favourite games
unborn spruce
He doesn't make dick.
feral ferry
So yeah I'm looking forward to Starfield
feral ferry
He's the head of the team
ornate cedar
Todd just plays chess
barren pewter
Tod leads it and lies through his fucking teeth.
"tell me more sweet little lies uwu"
unborn spruce
ornate cedar
fallow bronze
is streaming live on webbrowsers?
trim rock
Yeah I guess
bleak pike
ye
trim rock
Skat3 not on cloud so MEH
bleak pike
its badddddd
trim rock
Anyway don't think it's DLC probably just the PS5 & XSeries SX thing
bleak pike
orchid prism
Guvna Cheddar I presume?
fossil solar
fallow bronze
woahboy, just tried xbox cloud streaming... that was laggy as hell :/ maybe without wifi in between it'd be better.. but this was not good
unborn spruce
woahboy, just tried xbox cloud streaming... that was laggy as hell :/ maybe with...
What's your internet like?
fallow bronze
60mbps
should be ok.
unborn spruce
@fallow bronze Oh yes. Remove the hell out of that wifi. 
fading spade
Soon may the Wellerman come
ripe tendon
damn, water physics is expensive on the ole hard drive
orchid prism
Kind of hilarious how a game with such cartoony textures can require 65GB 😄
ripe tendon
Yeah that's a lot
But I never understood the draw of that game so maybe I just hate on it a little for the sake of hating on it 😂
But I sure do love their sailing and ocean
fading spade
my friends were harrassing me to get it while its on sale cause they both have like 32 hours already put into it together
ripe tendon
Did you try telling them no and tell them to get a game you like instead? 😛
ripe tendon
I was referring to the list
orchid prism
I love - the concept - of the game. But I'll never touch it as long as it has forced and encouraged PvP and ganking.
You can spend 2 hours painstakingly working as a crew to get a rare treasure...only to have xX_pegLegtheBlack_Xx sail by and sink you, stealing all of that hard work in minutes.
fading spade
true
ripe tendon
Or just literally wait at the finish line to gank it
no sinking required just sit on the dock and kill you as soon as you hop off the ship
orchid prism
Yeah - You could bet on them going to a specific outpost.
It's a cool gamemode - But not one I enjoy being forced into. I'd want to be able to play PvE with AI pirate crews here and there.
(Especially given the PvP meta. I've seen the kind of shit people exploit to steal stuff)
ripe tendon
I hope for PvE co-op in almost every game and I'm let down in almost every game
fringe salmon
might be different now but on release the game was so repetetive, you'd be bore after an hour without pvp
orchid prism
Perhaps - But that'd be my choice then 😄
The game formula doesn't work particularly well, when being a parasite is the best meta.
ripe tendon
I have seen some new things on a friends stream, but I still can't imagine it's much more than go to A, get the thing, come back to B without much in between
orchid prism
Especially now that some events are multi-stepped chains.
fringe salmon
tbh I found it to be no issue with majority of players on xbox, barely never had an issue when they attacked
but I did last play it idk, a year ago or so maybe
orchid prism
I mean sure - you can fight off other players.
But sometimes it's just 12 vs 2. And you're pinpointed on the map etc..
So - Why be the guy who spends forever fighting the AI to get the treasure, when you can just sail around the island and wait for them to leave and zerg them.
fringe salmon
I guess I can see the issue, just never had it happen to me
orchid prism
Devs also still haven't fixed several exploits/glitches. Like slashing when you fall off things to get a massive cannon boost forward.
It looks weird, it IS weird, and it is meta. 😄
trim rock
I think they call it a feature
orchid prism
They can put a dress on it, call it Mary - And I'd still call it a dumb exploit 😄
trim rock
Unfortunately they fix the fun stuff, like that ship grappling hook being strong enough to pull your boat literally wherever
orchid prism
fading spade
I dont want to uninstall large games cause my wifi too slow to download them when I want them again
which is annoying cause the larger games are the ones I dont wanna play for now
ripe tendon
You need a 10TB then instead of that 1TB
ripe tendon
you think that but you're already halfway there
fading spade
hmm, put all games onto the 2TB and use the 1TB for other things.... perhaps
fading spade
you think that but you're already halfway there
Thats the issue
ripe tendon
Next time a large external hdd goes on sale grab it and shuck it
fading spade
hdd is slow loading times :/
ripe tendon
One of the best things I ever did. I'm only halfway to 12 TB now
if the game is shit, sure. It rarely matters tbh
GTA V was horrendous but we found out that was a thing on their end. What other games take forever to load on 7200 HDDs?
trim rock
No wonder
ripe tendon
If you only play a few games I'd say go for SSD but in my position it would cost a fortune because I rarely play only 1 or 2 games over a period of weeks or months
You have an SSD as your OS drive though...right?
fading spade
I only have SSDs now
ripe tendon
Oh ok
fading spade
NVME as my Linux and Game library drives and a 2.5 inch SSD for windows
ripe tendon
My friend was still booting her windows from a hard drive so when she booted from an NVME she was kinda blown away 😂
fading spade
haha I can imagine
ripe tendon
This change was last week in 2021 btw, not like years ago
feral ferry
Bloober Team and Konami have formed a strategic partnership
fading spade
Actually, Windows takes quite a long time to get to login screen for me
it stays on a blank screen for almost 15 seconds after the windows boot logo appears
feral ferry
Bloober has been HEAVILY hinting at a new horror game for the past year
Involving formed Silent Hill VA's
fading spade
so yeah, logging into windows for me takes about 20 seconds
feral ferry
Silent Hill basically confirmed
ripe tendon
320 seconds for a windows boot? Yeaah something is fucky
fading spade
20* xd
ripe tendon
oh ok
fading spade
Linux takes about 8 to get to login, including pressing enter on the grub screen as soon as it shows up
An account with a similar password already exists
👀
wait....they should'nt be telling that
ripe tendon
yeah that sounds like the joke pages people make
"Sorry MikeSax already uses that password"
fading spade
LOL
feral ferry
And we got our confirmation
Yeah SH VOs already talked about it
We are getting a new Silent Hills game lads
keen urchin
fading spade
LOL
ripe tendon
Miserable experience playing through that
fading spade
I FORGOT DDLC+ IS OUT TODAY
young hill
Monika looks a little less robotic
tough jay
Interesting, Sony buying Nixxies: https://www.nixxes.com/nixxes-joins-playstation-studios/
Seems Sony is trying to really focus more on PC ports, considering that's the main thing Nixxes is known for.
trim rock
MS and Sony competing who can acquire the most studios
unborn spruce
Well I mean...
MS has been on the hustle.
Makes sense Sony would join in, methinks.
tough jay
Nixxes is pretty small, and is mostly a porting house.
They are a different thing and unless they want them for their technical expertise, which may be a thing, creating pc ports would be the main reason here.
trim rock
Or maybe it's to block PC ports pepega
tough jay
If microsoft were to buy Feral, sure I would actually get behind that reasoning, or rather linux / mac ports.
tough jay
I agree, just saying if they were to suddenly buy pretty much the only studio known to do that, it would be pretty clear why.
trim rock
Nah obviously it'd be for more Linux ports because Microsoft ❤️ Linux right?! And they're totally working on replacing NT with Linux!!!
ornate cedar
They will nuke the world before that scenario will be considered
orchid prism
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vFhXAklSZwI
@bleak pike
bleak pike
Pretty much xD
trim rock
Waiting for PC/Windows port..
ripe tendon
That's my issue for FFVII remake and the new Demon's Souls 😢
ripe tendon
What are you talking about, it'll be a decade before Remake is even completed
orchid prism
keen urchin
even tho i have it on my ps54
PS54 
fading spade
OO
fringe salmon
?
fading spade
They are starting to migrate people to MS accounts for Minecraft Java
feral ferry
They are starting to migrate people to MS accounts for Minecraft Java
Ancient news
And sadly, I don't like those news
bleak pike
When's that game even out
feral ferry
barren pewter
Nice, might be better than the first game.
considering the first was already damn great, that's incredible news
ornate cedar
Guns are only usefull to draw them or to show off
barren pewter
guns are useful for long range combat against humans in my experience
not much else
even then, only police rifles
ornate cedar
Me fast, me knife, me close now, u bye bye
ornate cedar
Knives are insanely powerfull
barren pewter
to eat pinch's blade, when you have a rifle
barren pewter
Knives are insanely powerfull
IKR
ornate cedar
few stabs per second
barren pewter
I got one that does a stupid amount of damage, can melt a goon in a second
ornate cedar
every stab dealin 2000 damage
ornate cedar
Even an armoured volatile on nightmare cries in fear
barren pewter
after that, just don't get swamped fighting them
scarlet wing
watching dying light makes me wish there was a new mirrors edge
ornate cedar
Bursts of UV in the face is as effective as holding the thing
It only stuns them for a second or two
barren pewter
Bursts of UV in the face is as effective as holding the thing
I always forget about that UV flashlight
usually one of my buddies reminds me "you got a UV flashlight, USE IT!"
ornate cedar
Flares are good if you need a safespace to pick up your buddy who tested gravity again
ornate cedar
Zaid's flare if things get dire
ornate cedar
Much brighter and longer lasting
volitiles are toast when they lunge in there
Do need to encourage its death a little
barren pewter
Flares are good if you need a safespace to pick up your buddy who tested gravity...
that moment when you test friendly fire
ornate cedar
I always scrapped them
barren pewter
tbh, they're only good for that
but hey
that's why I never forget em
they're useful, for repairing weapons that are actually useful
ornate cedar
I had the roubles to buy the yellow tier weapons
barren pewter
🙄
don't flex that kind of wealth
tbh, I got the money to buy em, I'm just not a high enough level to spawn them in stores
ornate cedar
Once you get the lucky repair and those 5 repair weapons they last a lifetime
barren pewter
I just do something big brain
ornate cedar
3 king mods to max it out
barren pewter
repairs don't count if you repair them before they break
so I repair my weapons after each fight, and switch to something else if it's gonna break mid fight
literally never had a weapon break on me
ornate cedar
Really? Like I could even try to get them broken
barren pewter
nah mate, weapons last longer if you treat them with care
ornate cedar
There is also a quest/person that resets those counter
barren pewter
...
ornate cedar
Have to be in singleplayer for it though. The mission disapears with multi
barren pewter
f
ornate cedar
One of those protect the target\
ornate cedar
They are easy, just have some overwhelming force
ornate cedar
Disable lag machine setting
barren pewter
it's the vertibird scene
ornate cedar
land on the top?
barren pewter
ye
ornate cedar
get the reactor
barren pewter
fly to mass fusion, gun down synths, jump on roof
snag reactor
kick ass
hightail to prydwin for more ass kicking
ornate cedar
Realise its a balloon and pop the thing
barren pewter
that moment when you smoke a ciggie next to the prydwen's ballasts
element no. 1, baby
ornate cedar
Realistically all they need to do is throw some napalm over the thing
barren pewter
realistically, a single shot with a handgun could down it
ornate cedar
Safe from its anti-air guns
ornate cedar
Usually to no explosion just a load of gas
Unless they got the hydrogen good stuff
But in anycase. End the BoS to ensure the good ending
fading spade
orchid prism
fading spade
Hmm.....
feral ferry
EA fucked up
SWTOR is getting a new expansion, leaked early
BioWare marks a new era for Star Wars ™: The Old Republic, its critically acclaimed MMORPG, with the Legacy of the Sith expansion
SWTOR's next major expansion kicks off the 10th anniversary celebration, with a new story, end-game missions, improved characters and combat systems, and more.
The Legacy of the Sith expansion will take players on an adventure to the far reaches of the galaxy, including the aquatic planet of Manaan, in pursuit of Darth Malgus. This major update will increase the maximum level players will be able to reach by 5 levels, up to level 80. Sizable new challenges will be introduced in Star Wars: The Old Republic , along with new collaboration missions, such as a contentious area in a mountain-top tomb on the isolated planet of Elom, and an operation in the remains of a space research station.
This new expansion will introduce a new feature, Fighting Styles, which will further expand the personalized Star Wars experience of SWTOR . Fighting Styles allow players to fulfill their wildest Star Wars dreams by choosing a specific class story and combining it with powers from other tech or Force-using classes. All players old and new alike can look forward to upgrades for their next Star Wars character thanks to a revamped character creation system. Additionally, item and equipment updates, as well as standardization of class designs, will further improve theStar Wars: The Old Republic for all players.
Interesting that a game like this is still getting expansions
novel umbra
people still play that game 
trim rock
Wait leaked? But it's fully announced on their site and everything!
trim rock
A game harnessing the power of the cloud? Oh no.. I remember how well that went last time
unique bane
orchid prism
I genuinely can't take anything SWTOR related serious anymore. The basegame has such a disconnect from the rest of the content, they might as well be different games.
bleak pike
@orchid prism amen we agree on something
ornate cedar
🤷 servers aint free
feral ferry
They are doing the opposite though it seems
Instead of deleting data, archiving it
So, even more data on the servers
keen urchin
Meh, looks like a step in the wrong direction to me
Taking control away from mod authors
ripe tendon
Servers doesn't seem to be any part of the problem in that post
Collections is a great idea, imo and the time to allow authors to have something permanently deleted seems fair. After that it's on them under most circumstances.
keen urchin
I think fair would be to have a checkmark whether or not the authors allows their mods in collections?
ripe tendon
Maybe. That's extremely annoying though
But no author should have anything to do with troubleshooting collections, imo. That should fall entirely on the community/collection creator
Unless an author wanted to be apart of that of course
But ultimately it's their site and the author's work should belong to the author. If they don't like the idea of archiving then do the deletion and host it somewhere else that is inferior where nobody will ever find it
keen urchin
The archiving thing is bullshit. They're essentially saying "collections are more important to us than the authors".
fallow bronze
i think it is a good idea to not deleting those
young crow
unborn spruce
Bois! Mass effect legendary edition is cracked.
Can confirm it works.
And guys, guys... they fixed the ME1 sniper, it’s accurate now.
unborn spruce
bleak pike
Bois! Mass effect legendary edition is cracked.
It was ages ago
unborn spruce
I was unaware of this. :P
unborn spruce
Can confirm it runs beautifully.
orchid prism
It has aged...poorly though.
orchid prism
Aging is more than graphics.
Loading zones are everywhere and you can't skip them in many places. And some of those are easily ten seconds or more, staring at an elevator.
Inventory management is... very slow and cumbersome.
orchid prism
Love the universe, hate the genre to death.
ripe tendon
I wish I enjoyed the L4D type games. I have friends with so many hours in them but after about 4 runs of a level I'm usually bored of it
feral ferry
bleak pike
I wish I enjoyed the L4D type games. I have friends with so many hours in them b...
I feel the exact same these days, similar with BR games.
orchid prism
Well THAT sure was a thing. Queued for a very latenite dungeon run. Tank immediately left after we joined... no replacement.
Through utter madness and stubbornness we beat it, two DPS and a Healer. Only one wipe due to a surprise pull 😄
Damn tanks. xD
bleak pike
I need to finish the second
orchid prism
Anyone know about Barding (Chocobo cosmetics) in FFXIV?
I assume these only work on the standard Chocos - not on the fat ones, or the myriad of weird creatures and machine mounts?
Oh wait... these seem to be for the combat chocobo summon.
Guess that makes sense.
Or wait... it seems like it's the same chocobo that I'm riding as I'm using for combat.
bleak pike
@edgy ore
fading spade
Switch case acquired!
ripe tendon
So you ordered it and didn't go in to the store to get it?
fading spade
I went to store
ripe tendon
I thought that was forever ago?
ripe tendon
Ohhhh I thought you were planning to get it then
fading spade
but I didnt bother and then when I found out I had to go to town today I decided to reserve it
yeah I did but it got too late
ripe tendon
I see I see
edgy ore
@bleak pike @orchid prism I know nothing of Chocobo Barding. Wait. No. Barding is literally just chocobo outfits
small comet
so i weas just driving my jesko
and casually had my rear wheels clip into the world
due to the acceleration and downforce this shit has
trim rock
weeb
small comet
altho id imagine it can go faster
im basically scraping on the road after the 100km/h mark
ornate cedar
Not useful if your rear gets grinded away stealing your speed
ornate cedar
So, no anime
ornate cedar
is haram
Means that its fun.
So you get to chill with satan instead of paying for your heaven licence
ornate cedar
br?
trim rock
huehuehue
bleak pike
Was fun tho
keen urchin
Did they ever fix up the Amalur remake?
novel umbra
I love it
thanks runic games
a second account system that you are bound to in multiplayer
since using something like zero tier does not work
for no reason
fading spade
orchid prism
This will be @bleak pike in ten years with Wootility 😛
fading spade
LOL
fading spade
why she got two bottom lips?
orchid prism
Mouf open.
orchid prism
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b_2ba6Pa0R0
There is an emote...about stepping on someone's head
orchid prism
Ooooh... three primals down. And now the plot finally gets going.
fringe salmon
feral ferry
Apparently I am subscribed to 20 pages worth of Arma 3 mods
fading spade
👀
ripe tendon
Do you have more time in MC than any other game, you think?
bleak pike
Looks like a good time
fading spade
It do
bleak pike
orchid prism
...playlists?
ripe tendon
good for them lol
orchid prism
The fuck is a playlist in this contexT?
trim rock
Nice
bleak pike
The fuck is a playlist in this contexT?
Gamemode selection
orchid prism
trim rock
Yeah it's not just battle royale nowadays
orchid prism
Just call it a dang game mode ya zoomers.
ripe tendon
To me a game mode is shotty snipers or TDM. A playlist is a group of multiple game modes
orchid prism
Why the fuck would you want to change gamemodes. This is a game, not a record player.
fringe salmon
ripe tendon
I haven't played apex since the Watson released so I don't know what's changed
orchid prism
Haven't touched it since Quinn kidnapped me to play with him. After... the first new character released? The guy who loves himself too much I think?
#ItIsNotTitanfallYouDonks
ripe tendon
that sounds like mirage? Was he a character release? I thought he was just unlockable
ornate cedar
Astroneer pog
fallow bronze
I couldnt bother getting to the end. I saw how to do it, and felt too grundy and effort
fallow bronze
Nice game though
trim rock
Trying some of this xcloud streaming this latency is horrid
Quality is ok maybe
Perhaps more of a browser limitation, wonder if the app based streaming is better since it can do some trickery like GFN does
young hill
Looks like a good time
More like a pleasant time if you catch my drift
trim rock
Like 230ms from hitting trigger to gun firing ingame
young hill
Like 230ms from hitting trigger to gun firing ingame <:thonk:568526682110296066>
How is your internet
young hill
Oh yeah most services do have noticeable latency
Stadia has weird artifacting
And GeForce now like you said is the best
Too bad it is now per verification to play a game
trim rock
.. if I use the app that is, if I use it in a browser the latency is way worse
young hill
That makes sense
It may also depend heavily right now
Since surely Xcloud lacks much area coverage
And best case is someone lives nearby
trim rock
Perhaps but it's Microsoft they have like servers everywhere!
young hill
Well yeah
But I thought xcloud runs of Xbox units
Would be much easier if it was like stadia with amd desktop cpu servers
trim rock
I only wish those greedy fucky publishers and developers weren't dicks about GeForce Now
young hill
I only wish those greedy fucky publishers and developers weren't dicks about GeF...
Yeah Nvidia ain't collecting fees from game purchases, it was very consumer friendly in fact still is
They got so triggered like wild karens
feral ferry
COMMUNISM
Also
"Why do you think that when you kill a zombie in the game there is tiny micro shutter, felt especially on older CPUs. Because Capcom decided to put one of their heavy check loops obfuscated in denuvo's vm which takes a lot of cpu time to execute."
@bleak pikeDRM is cancer basically
orchid prism
Durrrr
bleak pike
<@!171594634605232128>DRM is cancer basically <:lul:576475280303063096>
ye its awful
ornate cedar
fading spade
young hill
https://youtu.be/2z7CCAJUKIY
There is a game called Mirror walls maybe, same kind of type of thing
fading spade
oo
young hill
Like your computer
Puts files
In a directory
When you travel through the game and you must manually access them
Also it is not a solo game either
People must collaborate
Otherwise nobody wins since the files are random
And you need all of them so you could have 3 people with the same exact file and not progress
barren pewter
r/suddenlytrans?
...
tbh, all it takes is to view yourself as female
so, very possible for such a thing to happen, just realise due to a mental or spoken trigger
orchid prism
The name's Role. Rikku Role.
bleak pike
young hill
Subnautica looks nice
bleak pike
bleak pike
Subnautica looks nice
that a joke?
young hill
Oh, you are right Subnautica looks much better
Do not use that flag
Unless you want to be abused by other players
young hill
<@!297518817930772490> better?
I mean you are free to whatever, just wanted to warn you, though interesting description too bad the ship no fly
Missed opportunity maybe to even do a hydrofoil
bleak pike
young hill
Really wish they did more with Sea of Thieves given how well it runs, feels like a Destiny minus scummy tactics
bleak pike
Really wish they did more with Sea of Thieves given how well it runs, feels like...
they literally justr released a campaign
young hill
Well guess I will watch it on YouTube then
young hill
3 years pass so fast
bleak pike
Confused
feral ferry
Same
Switch Online is following the shitty 2010s meta of "paid online"
But it exists so
wheat kraken
barren pewter
yeah
RDR2 was great
not very replayable, and online was shit
but the campaign
literally one of the best I've ever played
orchid prism
Oh man... I got trolled hard. So hard xD
I'm almost done with the base story. First story "raid". Everyone's talking about how difficult the fight is, and to expect several wipes.
This guy is the easiest boss ever - fight was over in 60 seconds or less. Everyone was chucking hard afterwards at me.
feral ferry
I already knew the story since I watched it on YT back when I didn't have a PS4
So coming into RDR2 already knowing the story
It's shallow af
Not much to do there
fringe salmon
Oh man... I got trolled hard. So hard xD
I'm almost done with the base story. Fi...
remind me which one was the first?
barren pewter
Oh man... I got trolled hard. So hard xD
I'm almost done with the base story. Fi...
idk mate, the entire game wasn't too difficult
fringe salmon
.. im pretty sure he's not talking about rdr2
barren pewter
big guy with gun...
fringe salmon
ohh right
barren pewter
heh
fringe salmon
wait you managed to not get enough xp from MSQ alone? how 
orchid prism
This is my third class past 30 xD
fringe salmon
well uhh, best to do some optional dungeons to see more I guess
wait, you do know about the xp bonus if you log out in an inn?
orchid prism
Bit late for that. And yes
ashen lark
Wish more phone games, not that I played any atm, used haptics. Imo really cool thing, similar to controllers it can really help the immersion. Once played one game that had haptics done really well and it was a great experience
I mean also just basic haptics done by vibration motors.
Can’t really have something better on phones, still better than nothing.
Xbox controllers do have basic haptics too, with vibration stuff.
But haptics in the Pathless were so cool.
feral ferry
LAN CS:GO is back
And it's so damn fun to watch
Online doesn't have the same energy as LAN tourneys
feral ferry
fading spade
I no have installed
fading spade
fading spade
I found a game on Switch called S.C.A.T 😅
feral ferry
Super
Califragilistic
Axpia
Terdocious
fading spade
is it the same specs but with OLED screen?
fading spade
no spec bump?
novel umbra
doesn't seem like it
fallow bronze
why would they?
novel umbra
idk
fallow bronze
it'd make compatability harder
fading spade
Fair
novel umbra
no
fading spade
I like OLED though
novel umbra
the games are already made for multiple resolutions and framerates
fading spade
^
novel umbra
since they switch between docked and undocked mode
worst case just make "unsuported" games run through an upscaler or some bs
fading spade
ooo the stand is SOOOO much better
fringe salmon
there will be a new switch with a SoC that's most likely quite a big upgrade
fading spade
oh, the legit way to get voice chat on Switch is just to lay your phone running their app beside you xd
Fair
fading spade
bleak pike
Maybe irs just a nine pro
novel umbra
only upgrades to the unimportant parts
fading spade
unimportant
The screen is the ONLY reason callum has not gotten one
fringe salmon
because it's a selling point, maybe it made sense to switch components and they used it to make it a marketing point
fading spade
:P
novel umbra
if a lan port is a big feature
fringe salmon
well no, a higher resolution wouldn't run on what they have
novel umbra
you know they are dire
like
in docked mode
the upgrades you get are
a lan port
and 64gb of internal storage
aka
a 30 euro upgrade to an original one
fading spade
You get a Switch now that the screen is better? XD
fringe salmon
oled doesn't change pixel density...
orchid prism
Also doesn't improve TV mode 😄
fringe salmon
I just hope this isn't a release they made because the new versions needs more time than expected to release
orchid prism
Not unlikely given restrictions to parts flow with Covid.
They might want to avoid a too papery launch.
bleak pike
They'll prob wanna phase out the og switch
Make the oled the normal model
Then a pro
orchid prism
Or make sure they can keep making them after the first initial batch is sent out - Not much fun to only be able to serve the first million customers.
fringe salmon
ehh, they are not using latest tsmc nodes or a super large chip, shouldn't affect them as much
but could be
orchid prism
Everything down to raw mining is affected to some extent.
And the bidding wars are active as always.
fringe salmon
I dont think it would be something most switch owners will upgrade to so I'd guess the numbers would be enough, but who knows
feral ferry
Apparently
OLED edition has no noteworthy upgrades to its SoC
Only a LAN port and 64GBs of storage
trim rock
So is this the pro thing I've been hearing so much about pepelaugh
feral ferry
Basically
Shit even the 4K upscale rumours were wrong
Unless
They have even another model in the works
wanton meteor
did anyone notice in the video the song says 'the future is now' in the segment where they show you wired lan port